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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Mr. Johnson, <br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing your additional opinion with us. Although the patents in
our portfolios are the product of significant research and development efforts,
it is not MPEG LA’s decision to determine which patents are granted. That
is a decision made by patent offices in each jurisdiction. MPEG LA simply
addresses the market of patents as it exists by providing a service that brings
together patent owners and users so that technical innovations can be made
widely available at a reasonable price.<br>
<br>
Best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom O'Reilly</st1:PersonName><br>
Manager, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Research</st1:PersonName> and Public
Relations<br>
MPEG LA, LLC<br>
Tel: (303) 200-1710<br>
Email: toreilly@mpegla.com<br>
Web: www.mpegla.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dave Johnson
[mailto:davefilms.us@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:10
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom
O'Reilly</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Theora<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: VP8</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Patenting a mathematical formula is NOT creating a machine nor is it
unique. For example. 2+2=4... apples + apples^2= given outcome. I want to
patent this. It's stupid to patent something like that. The same is true for
formula algorithms. Algorithms occur in nature. Thus should not be patented.
Now, </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1><span
style='font-size:9.0pt'><span style='-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 18px;
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 18px'>Volley G Mathison inventor of the </span><span
style='-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 18px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 18px'>Electropsychometer
had a machine that he could patent. A mathematical formula or algorithm is NOT
a machine. Granted algorithms can be considered IP. Copyright should cover
that. Or should I patent my video?</span></span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On May 23, 2010, at 1:21 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom O'Reilly</st1:PersonName>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Mr. Johnson,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your additional comments.<br>
<br>
While I appreciate your sentiment, we are trying to address the<br>
situation as it is, not as we may wish it to be. Although Google has<br>
the right to disclaim royalties for its own technologies, if any, it<br>
can't disclaim them for others without their permission. It is believed<br>
that VP8 is based on technologies owned by many different companies and<br>
not Google alone, and that is the issue we expect to address. <br>
<br>
Thus, even if MPEG LA were to leave VP8 alone, the intellectual property<br>
issues underlying VP8 would still persist. To make a comparison, as a<br>
videographer, you would not want someone else either to steal or assume<br>
the right to give away your work without your consent. Therefore, to<br>
the extent VP8 includes technology owned by others (or Google as well)<br>
and that technology is not royalty-free, then a pool license which<br>
removes uncertainties regarding patent rights and royalties by making<br>
that technology widely available on the same terms to everyone would be<br>
beneficial to the market including those who wish to promote it. That<br>
is what we are interested in offering.<br>
<br>
With respect to your wish for a world without the need for MPEG LA, I<br>
appreciate your understanding for what we do and that you think the<br>
world would be better if the various intellectual property rights which<br>
give rise to our service did not exist. But apart from our own economic<br>
interest in trying to create order for the market out of this chaos, as<br>
much as it may sound good, I have my doubts whether that would be<br>
desirable. Similarly, I respectfully disagree with your comment that<br>
software patents are insidious and squelch true creativity. Developers<br>
that invest the time and money to develop an invention or other<br>
intellectual property right like video or music should be reasonably<br>
compensated by those who benefit. This preserves the investment<br>
incentives that enable developers to create the new technology or other<br>
intellectual works in the first place. As much as I would like not to<br>
have to pay to download a song that I like, I realize that paying a<br>
reasonable fee to do so allows the group that created the song to be<br>
fairly compensated for the time and effort it spent to produce the song.<br>
It also gives that group the incentive to create new songs that I may<br>
want to listen to later.<br>
<br>
Finally, I hope the following may be of some interest to you in light of<br>
your comment about not being able to afford coverage under our AVC/H.264<br>
License: The type of video you describe would fall under Title-by-Title<br>
AVC Video. For each Title that is 12 minutes or less, there is no<br>
royalty payable. For each Title that is longer than 12 minutes in<br>
length, the royalty is 2.0% of the remuneration paid to the Licensee or<br>
$0.02 per Title, whichever is lower. In other words, the royalty would<br>
not exceed $0.02 per copy. <br>
<br>
We do appreciate your feedback. I look forward to responding to any<br>
further comments or questions you may have.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom O'Reilly</st1:PersonName><br>
Manager <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Research</st1:PersonName> and Public
Relations<br>
MPEG LA, LLC<br>
Tel: (303) 200-1710<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:toreilly@mpegla.com">toreilly@mpegla.com</a><br>
Web: <a href="http://www.mpegla.com">www.mpegla.com</a><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dave Johnson [mailto:davefilms.us@gmail.com] <br>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:09 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom O'Reilly</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: VP8<br>
<br>
The royalty free license that Google provides is enough. I see no<br>
reason for MPEG-LA to provide a redundant license that must be purchased<br>
from your group. I would encourage your group to just leave VP8 and<br>
others alone. If only for the good of the internet. The only interest<br>
your group could have is a monetary one. Software patents are insidious<br>
and only squelch true creativity. Case in point... I can purchase a<br>
$3000.00 USD Canon "professional" camcorder and I am granted license
for<br>
personal use only. Because of the AVCHD or h.264 codec in the camcorder.<br>
This is a shame. I want to make a great short video and sell my work. I<br>
cannot due to the license. I cannot afford your prices.<br>
<br>
I hope for a "open standard" for hardware that embraces freedom. A<br>
camcorder with the hardware that can record a video in VP8 or other<br>
royalty free codec. This is my wish. A world without the need for<br>
MPEG-LA.<br>
<br>
It may happen... soon.<br>
<br>
Good day.<br>
On May 22, 2010, at 6:31 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Tom O'Reilly</st1:PersonName>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Mr. Johnson,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you for writing. We appreciate hearing from you and the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>opportunity to address your question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>MPEG LA provides pool licenses for many different video codecs such as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>AVC/H.264, MPEG-2, VC-1 and MPEG-4 Part 2. We do not advocate for
one<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>over another; rather, we provide one-stop licenses for the convenience<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>of video providers and users who make choices among them. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Therefore, our announcement of interest in providing a license for VP8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>is not a matter of protecting our revenue stream from other codecs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(many<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>of which are used in parallel). To the extent patent rights held
by<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>many patent holders are necessary for VP8, they need to be dealt with<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>whether or not MPEG LA offers a license. Our interest is in
pooling<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>them so they may be made available for the convenience of users on the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>same terms under a single license as an alternative to the present<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>fragmented way that necessitates individual negotiations with many<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>different patent holders. If we succeed, what it can mean
is that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>there will be a more efficient way for the market to access VP8 patent<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>rights, and that translates into broader adoption of VP8 for video<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>providers and consumers like you who choose to use it in providing and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>receiving video services.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you have additional questions, please let me know. I will be
glad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>to<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>answer them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tom O'Reilly</span></font></st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Manager <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Research</st1:PersonName> and Public
Relations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>MPEG LA, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tel: (303) 200-1710<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Email: <a href="mailto:toreilly@mpegla.com">toreilly@mpegla.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>From: Dave Johnson [mailto:davefilms.us@gmail.com] <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>To: Info-web<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Subject: VP8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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