<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I don't believe this to be a player problem. The borders appear in Quicktime (with the Xiph component), VLC, and in Firefox as an html element.</div><div><br></div><div>I've created a (temporary) page with three example videos and the command I used - each displaying their black boxes. </div><div><a href="http://insurgent.dnsalias.org/~torrance/html5_video/">http://insurgent.dnsalias.org/~torrance/html5_video/</a></div><div><br></div><div>(The videos are hosted on the wee mac mac mini in the corner of my lounge with a shite connection - so be patient as they download!)</div><div><br></div><div>The source videos were all unaltered trailers from http://www.apple.com/trailers - and you can see their original sizes in the output I've provided too. I guess there's the possibility that Apple's h.264 encoding may be odd in some way. (?)</div><div><br></div><div>Again, I am using the latest ffmpeg2theora.macosx binary hosted at <a href="http://firefogg.org/nightly/">http://firefogg.org/nightly/</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://firefogg.org/nightly/"></a>Thanks,</div><div>Torrance</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On 24/08/2009, at 5:09 PM, Michael Smith wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Christopher<br>Blizzard<<a href="mailto:blizzard@mozilla.com">blizzard@mozilla.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On 8/22/2009 5:37 PM, Torrance wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">P.S. I can provide examples both of the commands given and the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">resulting videos if necessary.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What are you using for a player? Theora video is required to be at<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">sizes that are multiples of 16 pixels. Videos not at those sizes are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">done by having black borders and the player is supposed to crop the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">video viewing area. Some players don't support that.<br></blockquote><br>Just to clarify this:<br><br>There's an internal detail of the format that means what actually gets<br>encoded is a multiple of 16 pixels. There is absolutely _not_ such a<br>constraint on the actual size of theora videos - any size is entirely<br>valid.<br><br>However, as Chris says - because of this internal format detail, it's<br>possible for buggy decoders/players to display some of the invalid<br>area.<br><br>Mike<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>