<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif;font-size:10pt">hi yorn and all,<br><br>thank you oggvideo tools for windows. it is great... i can live with the command line for now myself but i will need to make some art students work with oggvideotools and they may not be happy with that:D anyway your video tutorial is also good (but it also crashed my firefox 3.5 beta 4 for two times on windows and i have reported that to mozilla), i would love to help for that as you offered in your previous mail but i am just new into oggvideotools and not a tech person, so maybe i can help for video tutorials when i have more experince... but i am planning to write a very simple dummy's tutorial for the students just for oggcat on windows to concatenate some videos we are working on... <br><br>anyway, oggcat works great for me on windows! but <span style="font-weight: bold;">there
is one issue i should let you know about the Skeleton... </span><br><br>oggcat works totally ok on windows for the ogg files created with ffmpeg2theora <span style="font-weight: bold;">0.18</span>... it also works for ogv files created with ffmpeg2theora <span style="font-weight: bold;">0.24</span> and creates ok concatenated ogv files playing files on vlc but it also says <span style="font-weight: bold;">" warning: found unknown stream, this stream will be ignored"</span> and ogginfo shows <span style="font-weight: bold;">no Skeleton</span> for concatenated file, so this must be the ignored stream because i can see skeleton for the individual files before being concatenated... is this important? does it make a change... if you like, you can download the individual ogg and ogv files and oggcatted files from <a class="new-link" href="https://www.yousendit.com/download/MnFqV0oxT01CSWQzZUE9PQ">https://www.yousendit.com/download/MnFqV0oxT01CSWQzZUE9PQ</a>
if you like... all are less then 1MB_ you can see the ogg info for oggcatted files below...<br><br>also i encountered <span style="font-weight: bold;">another problem while converting to ogg</span> or ogv with both ffmpeg2theora 0.18 & 0.24 (ogginfo is not here but even on thusnelda)__ s<span style="font-weight: bold;">ome of the converted files have some macro block artifacts on the very lower end of the picture</span>... this occurs for some files but<span style="font-weight: bold;"> doesn't occur for other files... but all of the input files have exactly the same specifications... </span>there is also one ok file in the yousendit download link above named"OKNOBLOCKS_narrative.ogv".. you can see the ogg info for this file also below... you can see the file with macro block artifacts also in that zip file in the download link which is named "ff018 freedom.ogg"...ogginfo for this is also below.... <span style="font-weight: bold;">both ok and macro
blocked input files have the same spesifications (mpeg2 program stream 320x240 1:1 10080kbps vbr mpeg1layer2audio 2 channels 48000hz 224kbps)... </span>does anybody have an idea what may the cause of this? i have tried -v 10 and V 10000 as well but still the artifacts are on for the same files....<br><br><br><br> here are the info for both catted 0.18 oggs and 0.24 ogvs and macro blocked and ok files <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">ogginfo for catted 2 files that have been converted with ffmpeg2theora 0.18:</span><br><br>C:\Documents and Settings\User>D:\__PROGRAM\VIDEO\OGG_TOOLS\ogginfo.exe "D:\read<br>ymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlestirme\ff018 oggcat.ogg"<br>Processing file "D:\readymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlesti<br>rme\ff018 oggcat.ogg"...<br><br>New logical stream (#1, serial: 00004cfd): type theora<br>New logical stream (#2, serial: 00002bfc): type vorbis<br>Theora headers parsed for
stream 1, information follows...<br>Version: 3.2.0<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libTheora I 20060526 3 2 0<br>Width: 320<br>Height: 240<br>Total image: 320 by 240, crop offset (0, 0)<br>Framerate 25/1 (25,00 fps)<br>Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1,000000:1)<br>Frame aspect 4:3<br>Colourspace: Rec. ITU-R BT.470-6 Systems B and G (PAL)<br>Pixel format 4:2:0<br>Target bitrate: 0 kbps<br>Nominal quality setting (0-63): 32<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora 0.18<br>Vorbis headers parsed for stream 2, information follows...<br>Version: 0<br>Vendor: AO; aoTuV b5 [20061024] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)<br>Channels: 2<br>Rate: 48000<br><br>Nominal bitrate: 80,000000 kb/s<br>Upper bitrate not set<br>Lower bitrate not set<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora 0.18<br>Vorbis stream 2:<br> Total data
length: 20191 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:02.339s<br> Average bitrate: 69,029060 kb/s<br>Logical stream 2 ended<br>Theora stream 1:<br> Total data length: 179385 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:02.359s<br> Average bitrate: 608,084746 kb/s<br>Logical stream 1 ended<br><br><br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">ogginfo for catted two files that have been created with ffmpeg2theora 0.24</span><br><br>C:\Documents and Settings\User>D:\__PROGRAM\VIDEO\OGG_TOOLS\ogginfo.exe "D:\read<br>ymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlestirme\ff024 oggcat.ogv"<br>Processing file "D:\readymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlesti<br>rme\ff024 oggcat.ogv"...<br><br>New logical stream (#1, serial: 00004a45): type theora<br>New logical
stream (#2, serial: 00003cf9): type vorbis<br>Theora headers parsed for stream 1, information follows...<br>Version: 3.2.1<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libTheora I 20081020 3 2 1<br>Width: 320<br>Height: 240<br>Total image: 320 by 240, crop offset (0, 0)<br>Framerate 25/1 (25,00 fps)<br>Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1,000000:1)<br>Frame aspect 4:3<br>Colourspace: Rec. ITU-R BT.470-6 Systems B and G (PAL)<br>Pixel format 4:2:0<br>Target bitrate: 0 kbps<br>Nominal quality setting (0-63): 32<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br>Vorbis headers parsed for stream 2, information follows...<br>Version: 0<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20081127<br>Channels: 2<br>Rate: 48000<br><br>Nominal bitrate: 80,000000 kb/s<br>Upper bitrate not set<br>Lower bitrate not set<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br>Theora stream
1:<br> Total data length: 210233 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:02.200s<br> Average bitrate: 764,483636 kb/s<br>Logical stream 1 ended<br>Vorbis stream 2:<br> Total data length: 18787 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:02.339s<br> Average bitrate: 64,229060 kb/s<br>Logical stream 2 ended <br><br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">ogginfo for macro blocked file that have been created with ffmpeg2theora 0.24</span><br><br>C:\Documents and Settings\User>D:\__PROGRAM\VIDEO\OGG_TOOLS\ogginfo.exe "D:\read<br>ymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlestirme\oggcat_test_for_ffmp<br>eg2theora018&024\ff024 freedom.ogv"<br>Processing file "D:\readymade dictionary of the author\test
ogg\exportvebirlesti<br>rme\oggcat_test_for_ffmpeg2theora018&024\ff024 freedom.ogv"...<br><br>New logical stream (#1, serial: 00004e28): type skeleton<br>New logical stream (#2, serial: 00004b06): type theora<br>New logical stream (#3, serial: 00004868): type vorbis<br>Theora headers parsed for stream 2, information follows...<br>Version: 3.2.1<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libTheora I 20081020 3 2 1<br>Width: 320<br>Height: 240<br>Total image: 320 by 240, crop offset (0, 0)<br>Framerate 25/1 (25,00 fps)<br>Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1,000000:1)<br>Frame aspect 4:3<br>Colourspace: Rec. ITU-R BT.470-6 Systems B and G (PAL)<br>Pixel format 4:2:0<br>Target bitrate: 0 kbps<br>Nominal quality setting (0-63): 32<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br>Vorbis headers parsed for stream 3, information follows...<br>Version: 0<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20081127<br>Channels: 2<br>Rate:
48000<br><br>Nominal bitrate: 80,000000 kb/s<br>Upper bitrate not set<br>Lower bitrate not set<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br>Logical stream 1 ended<br>Theora stream 2:<br> Total data length: 72493 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:01.040s<br> Average bitrate: 557,638462 kb/s<br>Logical stream 2 ended<br>Vorbis stream 3:<br> Total data length: 8610 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:01.080s<br> Average bitrate: 63,777778 kb/s<br>Logical stream 3 ended<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">ogginfo for OK file with no macro blocks that have been created with ffmpeg2theora 0.24</span><br><br>C:\Documents and
Settings\User>D:\__PROGRAM\VIDEO\OGG_TOOLS\ogginfo.exe "D:\read<br>ymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlestirme\oggcat_test_for_ffmp<br>eg2theora018&024\OKNOBLOCKS_narrative.ogv"<br>Processing file "D:\readymade dictionary of the author\test ogg\exportvebirlesti<br>rme\oggcat_test_for_ffmpeg2theora018&024\OKNOBLOCKS_narrative.ogv"...<br><br>New logical stream (#1, serial: 000052f8): type skeleton<br>New logical stream (#2, serial: 000043e9): type theora<br>New logical stream (#3, serial: 00002e28): type vorbis<br>Theora headers parsed for stream 2, information follows...<br>Version: 3.2.1<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libThusnelda I 20090527<br>Width: 320<br>Height: 240<br>Total image: 320 by 240, crop offset (0, 0)<br>Framerate 25/1 (25,00 fps)<br>Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1,000000:1)<br>Frame aspect 4:3<br>Colourspace: Rec. ITU-R BT.470-6 Systems B and G (PAL)<br>Pixel format 4:2:0<br>Target bitrate: 0 kbps<br>Nominal quality setting
(0-63): 32<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br> SOURCE_OSHASH=qx<br>Vorbis headers parsed for stream 3, information follows...<br>Version: 0<br>Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20081127<br>Channels: 2<br>Rate: 44100<br><br>Nominal bitrate: 80,000000 kb/s<br>Upper bitrate not set<br>Lower bitrate not set<br>User comments section follows...<br> ENCODER=ffmpeg2theora-0.24<br> SOURCE_OSHASH=qx<br>Logical stream 1 ended<br>Theora stream 2:<br> Total data length: 77722 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:00.800s<br> Average bitrate: 777,220000 kb/s<br>Logical stream 2 ended<br>Vorbis stream 3:<br> Total
data length: 5653 bytes<br> Playback length: 0m:00.862s<br> Average bitrate: 52,461553 kb/s<br>Logical stream 3 ended<br><br>C:\Documents and Settings\User><br><div style="font-family: tahoma,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:28:04 +0200<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:yorn@gmx.net" href="mailto:yorn@gmx.net">yorn@gmx.net</a><br>Subject: [theora] Windows Software for Theora - was: QTheoraFrontend<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:theora@xiph.org" href="mailto:theora@xiph.org">theora@xiph.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20090530182804.168670@gmx.net" href="mailto:20090530182804.168670@gmx.net">20090530182804.168670@gmx.net</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Hi all,<br><br>I've cross compiled the Ogg Video Tools
for Windows now, so you can join, split, cut, cat, resize, thumbnail, create slideshows etc. under Windows now:<br><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/oggvideotools/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/oggvideotools/</a></span><br><br>But actually you have to use the command line :-/<br><br>- Yorn<br><br><br></div></div></div><br>
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