[theora] [gst-devel] Mozilla & gstreamer

Xavier Bestel xavier.bestel at free.fr
Thu Jun 18 06:06:22 PDT 2009


Hi,

Mozilla already uses GTK+ (but it doesn't ship it), so GLib wouldn't be
a problem IMHO.

	Xav

On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 12:32 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> As Michael Smith pointed out, relicensing GStreamer would be very hard,
> the problem is that when you been around 10 years, the list of
> contributors tend to become very large for a project as big as
> GStreamer. That said I don't think any of us have any big issues with
> the MPL as such, as it is pretty much equivalent to the terms of the
> LGPL, so it is just about the huge amount of work it would be to find
> all the past contributors and get them to agree, and in the case someone
> has fallen off the face of the planet, figure out exactly what they
> contributed back in the day to see if it is still in there and if so if
> it can be replaced. If we limit the relicensing to the core that would
> make it a bit more viable though.
> 
> Of course my feeling is that this change would probably not be enough
> for Mozilla, as glib would still be LGPL-only, and I think getting glib
> relicensed would probably be an even more herculean task.
> 
> I have been talking with Christopher about GStreamer and Mozilla from
> time to time, and while I would be willing to do some legwork to get
> code tri-licensed, my impression is that no plausible relicensing option
> would be acceptable for Mozilla. (Not a criticism of Mozilla, just a
> statement of the current status).
> 
> So my current hope is that we will reach a point where Mozilla decides
> that all this media stuff is just to painful to handle themselves and
> thus be willing to reconsider the licensing requirement :)
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 13:05 -0700, Michael Dale wrote:
> > Mozilla is looking to include auiod/video capture for Firefox and the 
> > Mozilla platform in the future. Gstreamer was proposed as a technical 
> > solution. Technical issues aside Chris Blizzard expressed concern over 
> > issues with licenses. Before technical issues for gstreamer with Mozilla 
> > Firefox can be fully considered the license issues have to be sorted.
> > 
> > As far as I understand (hopefully Mozilla will follow up with some 
> > details)  the core code and the code for the capture modules would have 
> > to be trilicensed? Since everything is already available under the least 
> > restrictive form (the LGPL) I imagine the gstreamer community would be 
> > oky with this. I don't think the purpose of the gstreamer communities 
> > license choices where to exclude the use of the library by Mozilla 
> > foundation open source web browser.
> > 
> > If these license issues can be sorted a more technical discussion can 
> > follow as to whether gstreamer would be the best choice for inclusion of 
> > these features into the Mozilla platform.
> > 
> > --michael
> > 
> > 
> > Christopher Blizzard wrote:
> > > We can't ship gstreamer.  We don't ship under the LGPL.
> > >
> > > That being said, we can link to it on Linux.  We would just need  
> > > something for the Mac and Windows as well.
> > >
> > > --Chris
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