[theora] Extension .v+ogg does work
giles at xiph.org
Tue Oct 24 15:10:39 PDT 2006
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 01:53:10PM -0700, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> Hello Ralph,
Hi Charles. Bumping into you in several places lately. :)
> >From what I remember hearing (on the RSS Public mailing list --
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rss-public/ )... the "+" thing was
> considered a hack. And it was intended to be a one-time hack... only for
Ok, thanks for the explaination. Interesting that the file browsers are
using it. I found a bunch of bugs where other software had to be updated
to handle the new type (as a literal, not a parsed description) but not
the original reasoning for it.
Note that we are using audio/x-vorbis audio/x-speex and video/x-theora
in the RTP payload drafts. That's a different container with only one
media type per stream, and it's important to know the actual codec, not
just the disposition.
> > http://www.advogato.org/article/852.html
> I wrote that.... So... yeah that's a good proposal :-)
Haha, oops. Sorry I didn't recognize your nick.
> I also wrote this related proposal too...
Thanks for the link. That seems a reasonable abuse for video rss
feeds, and I guess you could use media="screen" for slides, but
what do you do for audio?
> A free form typing system where defacto standard could emerge.
Yes, "folksonomy" tagging would work about as well here in practice.
Will be interesting to see if a standards-oriented body like the IETF
ever ratifies something like that.
> I don't know if any of these help with the MS Windows problem though. MS
> Windows seems to be incredibly "dumb" when it comes to types. And (in MS
> Windows) you'd probably need some other system to figure out which
> application to launch based on any of these. (But it is something to think
> about I suppose.)
No, it doesn't help. The original complain is based on Windows
Explorer only associating applications with file extensions. The
problem is much more tractible if you can do even file magic
identification. I don't know if they've tried to address this in vista.
In the past we've suggested writing a dispatcher application to handle
this: associate it with the .ogg extension, and it checks the file and
opens the app of choice. Supposedly someone wrote such a thing (called
Ogg Prak) but we don't have the source. It may have been vapourware.
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