[theora-dev] a new proposal

Monty xiphmont at xiph.org
Wed Feb 25 20:57:04 PST 2004

On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 12:38:17PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 03:15:19PM -0500, Arc Riley wrote:
> > Why don't we just design a new version of Ogg?  The current version, 0, 
> > has worked great for so long.. but with the addition of a new (prehaps) 
> > four-byte field for granule-duration, or granules, or whatever.. we 
> > could have both the start-time granulepos and the total decodable 
> > granules in each page header.  This has two advantages; first it allows 
> > us to have the best of both worlds as far as the start-time/end-time 
> > discussion, it allows us to *CLEANLY* implement discontinuous streams, 
> > more clean than start-time alone, and it would also give us a clean way 
> > to do granule-accurate trunctation of a stream.

Arc is a bit confused.  We have a clean proposal, he just doesn't
understand it yet. 

> If this were to happen, it would be fabulous to have per-packet timestamps
> to help deal with the realities of maintaining decent A/V sync on PC class
> hardware.

...sigh.  And the confusion spreads like wildfire.  We already have
perfect sync, Matt.

Arc, I'll be in the channel tongiht to hash this out for as long as it
takes.  Until then, I suggest you hold off reinventing the whole world
because you don't understand that one that already exists.  You're
just going to confuse the Hell out of everyone who *hasn't* been
participating in the spec discussion.  

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