[theora-dev] It's quiet. TOO quiet.

emaillist+ot at dogphilosophy.net emaillist+ot at dogphilosophy.net
Mon Jan 27 18:34:37 PST 2003

Whatever became of Ogg Theora?

There seems to be still almost no news from Xiph or its
developers regarding Ogg Theora.  None at all since Mid-December,
when the release of Alpha 2 was pushed back to a month ago...

No news on plans for the second Alpha?  No news of development
"roadmaps"?  No news on current developments or challenges that
are stalling development?  No CVS updates related to Theora
since the Alpha 1 release?

I get the impression that Ogg Theora's been a bit of a "well, maybe,
if we get time" sort of project for Xiph.  Even the instructions on
the theora.org website for obtaining the current code haven't
been updated since before the Alpha 1 release (still showing that
one needs to check out the "vp32" module).

Even since its beginning, there has been almost no official news
from Xiph on Theora.  Alpha 1 was released without even a mention
on the Theora mailing lists that it was coming (or even that it'd
been released after the fact).  Theora hasn't even been mentioned in
the last 3 issues of Ogg Traffic.

I apologize if this is coming across as flamebait - it's not supposed to.
In fairness, I recognize the Emmett Plant posted a bit of information to
the list mid-last-month, and Monty's been posting here occasionally about
The Great Mimetype Debate(tm), so Theora's obviously not TOTALLY forgotten.
I also know that some technical issues have made Monty's hard work at getting
libogg prepped for Theora have made things difficult...but that's the
whole extent of the available information that I can find on the subject
of Ogg Theora.

So - any apparent "flamebaititude" (is that even a real word?) in here is just 
the product of frustration from watching what seems like a very promising
project (not to mention timely, what with the first standalone 'video file'
players starting to come out...and only support "DivX" [though the player
in question DOES support Ogg Vorbis for sound-only playback]) languish while I
wait for it to reach a point where I can contribute something to it myself.

Some official news once in a while would be a great relief to me, and I
imagine as well to any potential developers, testers, and documenters who
are still watching the list and waiting for a genuinely free alternative to

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