<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Mar 16, 2022, at 06:55, Chip <<a href="mailto:chiapas@aktivix.org" class="">chiapas@aktivix.org</a>> wrote:<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">I do not know anything about the technical issues involved but would the Icecast developers ever consider support for streaming over<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming" class="">HLS</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over_HTTP" class="">MPEG-DASH</a>? Or is support for these protocols available now?<br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">HLS provides mechanisms for players to adapt to unreliable network conditions without causing playback stalling and I believe has some advantages in terms of low latency.</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>The main advantage of HLS/DASH _vis-a-vis_ the ICY/ice protocols is that they are *much* more CDN-friendly. If you’re needing to reach an audience of millions, then HLS/DASH is what you need to be using (along with an appropriately scaled CDN). The way that HLS/DASH achieves that is by pushing design complexity from the ’server’ to the encoder and player components. The ’server’ part of an HLS/DASH setup is, relatively speaking, dead simple. In fact, one can build a perfectly usable HLS ’server’ using stock Apache httpd.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I cannot of course speak for the Icecast developers, but FWIW I’d be frankly shocked to see HLS/DASH support ever happen in Icecast.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers!</div></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|---------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| | Paravel Systems |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|---------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| A room without books is like a body without a soul. |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">| -- Cicero |</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">|---------------------------------------------------------------------|</span></div></div></body></html>