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El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 17:47 -0300, Jos&#233; Luis Artuch escribi&#243;:<BR>
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    El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 10:07 +0200, R&#252;cker Thomas escribi&#243;: <BR>
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        Hi,<BR>
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        On 10/02/13 06:53, Jos&#233; Luis Artuch wrote:<BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000080">I'm understanding why Icecast2 is an audio server, wow !!!</FONT><BR>
            <FONT COLOR="#000080"><A HREF="http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.0.1/icecast2_config_file.html">http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.0.1/icecast2_config_file.html</A></FONT><BR>
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        We're not an 'audio server', that's pulse-audio, esd, etc. territory.<BR>
        We're a multimedia streaming server. Slight difference. :)<BR>
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    <FONT COLOR="#000080">Hello Thomas.</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">That is, I agree, I was paying attention to only one part ! :))</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">A few days ago I was surprised to see how easily the mountpoints are created, even video.</FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000080">Testing the relay option:</FONT><BR>
            <FONT COLOR="#000080">Two mountpoints from two master servers are relayed to a relay server:</FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000000">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Master Servers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Relay Server</FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000000">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8200/zuzenean.ogg">http://186.56.96.133:8200/zuzenean.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://">http://186.148.147.191:8001/zuzenean.ogg</A>&nbsp; ---&gt;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://">http://186.56.96.133:8200/zznn1.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
            <FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://">http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg</A>&nbsp; ---&gt;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://">http://186.56.96.133:8200/zznn2.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000080">I guess there is no limit for the number of signals to be relayed.</FONT><BR>
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        <FONT COLOR="#000080">There should be no limit to the number of relays, or at least it will be much higher than people will usually go...</FONT><BR>
        <FONT COLOR="#000080">BUT, did you check the source connection limit? Default is 2 or 3 and you might be running into that (relays should count as sources too IIRC).</FONT><BR>
        <FONT COLOR="#000080">Generally it helps to read the error.log to see what is happening.</FONT><BR>
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    <FONT COLOR="#000080">Exactly, the relays are considered as sources and I had to increase the number of sources.</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">If the number of sources is less than needed, the Relay Server sources take precedence over the Master Servers sources (I should try this again).</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080">It seems so. To gradually reduce the number of sources are deleted relayed mountpoints.</FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000080">A mountpoint name with less than three characters does not work !! ... uuffff ... (&quot;xx.ogg&quot; does not work, &quot;xxx.ogg&quot; works).</FONT><BR>
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        <FONT COLOR="#000080">hmh? Can you be more specific about how I can reproduce this here? This sounds like a possible bug.</FONT><BR>
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    <FONT COLOR="#000080">Now I'm thinking that when &quot;xx.ogg&quot; not work may have been &lt;on_demand&gt; seted in &quot;1&quot; and this may have been the reason that did not occur the mountpoint (I should try this again).</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">During the test I had the Relay Server with a mountpoint due to Ices2 (both running on the same machine) and two Master Servers with relayed mountpoints (two separate machines).</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080">Again, now four mountpoints. One from the Relay Server and three relayed from two Masters Servers.</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">The names of the mountpoints are very short and everything works ok, even without an extension (<A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8000">http://186.56.96.133:8000</A>).</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080">During the previous test &lt;on_demand&gt; must have been set to &quot;1&quot; ... :( ... excuse me !!!!</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Master Servers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Relay Server</FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8000/zuzenean.ogg">http://186.56.96.133:8000/zuzenean.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000080"><A HREF="http://186.148.147.191:8001/zuzenean.ogg">http://186.148.147.191:8001/zuzenean.ogg</A>&nbsp; ---&gt;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8000/a.ogg">http://186.56.96.133:8000/a.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080"><A HREF="http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg">http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg</A>&nbsp; ---&gt;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8000/b.ogg">http://186.56.96.133:8000/b.ogg</A></FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000080"><A HREF="http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg">http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg</A>&nbsp; ---&gt;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://186.56.96.133:8000/2">http://186.56.96.133:8000/2</A></FONT><BR>
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            <FONT COLOR="#000080">What about &lt;on-demand&gt; 0 &lt;/ on-demand&gt; ?. I used &quot;0&quot; and &quot;1&quot; but I did not notice changes.</FONT><BR>
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        If set to 1, this will make Icecast only pull in the relay if there are also listeners connected to the stream locally.<BR>
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        HTH<BR>
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        Thomas<BR>
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    <FONT COLOR="#000080">At this time I can but I SHOULD NOT DO tests on the servers :))) I will try tomorrow morning.</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">Thank you very much !!</FONT><BR>
    <FONT COLOR="#000080">Jos&#233; Luis</FONT><BR>
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            El s&#225;b, 09-02-2013 a las 23:01 -0300, Jos&#233; Luis Artuch escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                <FONT COLOR="#000080">Ah ... thanks Dave, will give light to the subject:</FONT><BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;relay&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;server&gt;127.0.0.1&lt;/server&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;port&gt;8001&lt;/port&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mount&gt;/example.ogg&lt;/mount&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;local-mount&gt;/different.ogg&lt;/local-mount&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;on-demand&gt;0&lt;/on-demand&gt;<BR>
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                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;relay-shoutcast-metadata&gt;0&lt;/relay-shoutcast-metadata&gt;<BR>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/relay&gt;<BR>
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                El s&#225;b, 09-02-2013 a las 20:52 -0500, Dave Pascoe escribi&#243;: <BR>
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                    You are looking for the &lt;relay&gt; element not &lt;proxy&gt;<BR>
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                    On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Jos&#233; Luis Artuch &lt;<A HREF="mailto:artuch@speedy.com.ar">artuch@speedy.com.ar</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
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                        <FONT COLOR="#000080">Ok Xabier, thank you very much.</FONT><BR>
                        <FONT COLOR="#000080">I do not find a &lt;proxy&gt; section in the config file, but I will investigate a bit about this.</FONT><BR>
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                        El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 00:17 +0100, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi&#243;: <BR>
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                            I was trying to tell you so. I'm not at home, so I can't tell you exactly how it is done, but I remember a &lt;proxy&gt; section in Icecast config file where you can tell the source stream and where to mount locally.<BR>
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                            But as I have said before, see the Icecast documentation for more details (or perhaps the original config file also has comments for configuring it).<BR>
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                            El 10/02/2013 00:12, &quot;Jos&#233; Luis Artuch&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:artuch@speedy.com.ar">artuch@speedy.com.ar</A>&gt; escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                                <FONT COLOR="#000080">Xabier, I mean vlc + Ices2 + Icecast2, I do not know because I do not work with Windows.</FONT><BR>
                                <FONT COLOR="#000080">Very interesting a proxi with Icecast2, I will study. I have saved a lot of work, why do not you tell me before ? :))</FONT><BR>
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                                El s&#225;b, 09-02-2013 a las 23:28 +0100, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                                    But you don't need VLC nor Ices2 to build a proxy with Icecast. It can connect to a stream and proxy it. I have tested it with a SHOUTCast server proxied through an Icecast mount point.<BR>
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                                    Why shouldn't work in Windows?<BR>
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                                    El 09/02/2013 22:43, &quot;Jos&#233; Luis Artuch&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:artuch@speedy.com.ar">artuch@speedy.com.ar</A>&gt; escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                                        <FONT COLOR="#000080">Perhaps I've done something similar but on Debian and not know if it will work in Windows.</FONT><BR>
                                        <FONT COLOR="#000080">I've used vlc to receive any audio from the Internet and ices2 as a source client. It works perfectly fine as a repeater.</FONT><BR>
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                                        El s&#225;b, 09-02-2013 a las 22:23 +0100, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                                            Is the stream a MP3 stream? If so, you can use Icecast as a proxy (see documentation).<BR>
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                                            El 09/02/2013 22:05, &quot;Michael Renner&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:michael.renner@gmx.de">michael.renner@gmx.de</A>&gt; escribi&#243;:<BR>
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                                                Moin,<BR>
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                                                I compiled icecast under cygwin (yes, I have to use Windows 7 togehter with<BR>
                                                cygwin).<BR>
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                                                The audio stream that I want to distribute come from stdin, like I get it from<BR>
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                                                curl <A HREF="http://streamingserver.foo.bar/stream/stream.php">http://streamingserver.foo.bar/stream/stream.php</A> |<BR>
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                                                But how to proceed? Should I just pipe this to | icecast -c etc/icecast.xml?<BR>
                                                It does not work.<BR>
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                                                Thanks for any hint!<BR>
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