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Hi David,</div>
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Streaming live WebM would also give a boost to this open format.</div>
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Whitch Client do you use to stream the webm format to icecast with?</div>
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Regards,<br />
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Dennis</div>
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From: Krad Radio <kradradio@gmail.com><br />
To: icecast-dev@xiph.org, icecast@xiph.org<br />
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:53:05 -0500<br />
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast WebM Support Patch Second Edition<br />
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Howdy,</div>
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tl;dr: Nothing new or interesting to non-developers</div>
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Attached is a newer Icecast WebM support patch for Icecast SVN, there is
simply aesthetic changes. Whitespace has been altered to match Icecast
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some functions have been renamed and moved around.</div>
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Some discussion. </div>
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The format_ebml.c file lines 0-296 operates much the same as the
format_ogg.c file does. It uses a parsing library api to feed in and pull
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the _get_buffer function. In the case of Ogg this is of course
libogg, in the case of ebml, the "parsing library" consists of the
functions below line 296.</div>
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This mini-included library comes from some debugging code that
I wrote during my work on a much more robust EBML muxing library, originally
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icecast would need to do some manipulation of the EBML segment header in
all cases, but it turns out in most cases this is better done by the source
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This mini-included library implements the same function calls that
Icecast would need to use if it was using this EBML muxing library, but
"parse" is a very </div>
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generous descriptor of whats actually happening. If you are familiar
with the internals of Ogg streaming, you know that the stream starts out
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that are then followed by pages containing the acutual video and audio
packets. EBML doctype WebM and MKV (The only currently known) work in
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There is a "Segment Header" followed by "Clusters"
(Its actually more nuanced than this, but this oversimplification will
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Ogg pages. The connecting client needs to be sent the header, and then it
can start on any cluster as long as it starts exactly on a cluster. (This is
actually not a format requirement per se but all media players I am aware of
lack the ability to re-sync themselves if started on a random byte,
something I intend not to be a limitation of my own work). So, in a live
WebM stream, everything before the first cluster is the "Header"
and then the rest is the clusters, of which the boundary between them is
marked with 4 specific bytes. So at every cluster the refbuf is marked as a
sync point. The size of clusters could vary significantly during a
stream or from stream to stream, but on a properly constructed one would
indicate a keyframe in the case of a stream with video. The
'mini-library' doesn't actually 'parse' the stream at
all, all it does is look for the four byte sequence indicating a cluster
boundary and informs the format functions appropriately. I am a fraudulent
mathematician at best, but I calculate that there is a 1 in 4.2 billion
chance of this happening for any given 4 bytes, and 1 in 4294 per megabyte,
and likely once per 4.2 gigabytes. This is not a problem once the stream has
started for the client however, it only matters when the source connects and
the header is stored, and when a client connects and needs a proper starting
point. I suppose that makes it very unlikely to cause a problem, even though
its technically wrong. It also means that each byte is being compared,
whilst when properly parsing most would be skipped, but computers are so
damn fast that its moot. At any rate proper parsing could be added this this
mini-library or provided by the external library as it matures.</div>
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