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class=036144605-12062008>Hallo Taner</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=036144605-12062008>Can you send me a private mail and give me your Ip
adresses (server and office) , then I will monitor them</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=036144605-12062008>Tom</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Taner Sener [mailto:tanersener@gmail.com]
<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 19:38<BR><B>An:</B>
thesmile<BR><B>Cc:</B> icecast@xiph.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [Icecast]
Buffer in IceCast<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Tom,<BR><BR>You might be right, but I don't get why my existing
downloads (I guess they are on different routes) are not affected. If my ADLS
provider is doing some IP adjustments (btw my IP is static) I expect
everything to disconnect, not only my icecast connection. So I'll monitor my
USRobotics logs today and tomorrow so see if there is something strange.
<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:59 AM, thesmile <<A
href="mailto:thesmile@ncinet.de">thesmile@ncinet.de</A>> wrote:<BR>
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size=2><SPAN> </SPAN>Hi
Taner</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I doubt that
t</FONT></SPAN>he change of routes does not affect your
connection, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>because this is normal practise with carriers (BGP or least cost
routing) and usually it has no impact on the enduser, as it happens in
milliseconds.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
personal thinking is, that your ADSL Provider disconnects you once or
twice a day to unload the DSLAM port and sometimes, if you do not have a
fixed IP address, you even get a new IP address.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
disconnect takes a bit long to synchronize in your
case.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Have
you checked that? Look into the logfile of your
modem/router.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
so, then force your modem or router to do this disconnect at a fixed
time in the middle of the night.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>Which equipment are you using?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> <A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A>] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>Taner Sener<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008
16:14<BR><B>An:</B> Maarten Bezemer<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast@xiph.org</A><BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [Icecast]
Buffer in IceCast<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>Hi Maarten,<BR><BR>Yes, I'm behind ADSL with PPPoE but I
don't think it is related with my case. When my client disconnects
from IceCast server for 15-20 seconds, my active downloads are not
interrupted. It currently effects only the route to my IceCast
server, other routes looks uneffected. I'm pinging IceCast server
continuously and checking trace route periodically. It is comething
like: my IceCast server is 6 hops far from me and when my connection
goes-gomes it becomes 8 hops far from me. Also some addresses on trace
route are not the same. This is why I see this situation as a route
change.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Maarten
Bezemer <<A href="mailto:mcbicecast@robuust.nl"
target=_blank>mcbicecast@robuust.nl</A>> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Hi,<BR><BR>Are
you running behind an ADSL line? If so, what type of ADSL
connection<BR>(PPPoA, RFC1483 bridged), what type of router,
etc.<BR>Also the line quality (noise margin, line speed, rx/tx
attenuation) may be<BR>an important issue. If the line is indeed
gone for 15-20 seconds, this<BR>indicates a retrain/relogin of your
connection. Maybe the logs from your<BR>modem can tell you more
about these outages.<BR><BR>I doubt it is the ISP just changing
routes, since the last mile to you is<BR>always using the same
route, and re-routing anything beyond that point<BR>will have impact
on large numbers of customers. Besides, those wouldn't<BR>take 15-20
seconds.<BR><BR>So, good luck with your new homework
;-)<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><FONT color=#888888> Maarten<BR></FONT>
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<DIV><BR><BR>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Taner Sener wrote:<BR><BR>>
Well, if it is the only option to overcome the problems I will
certainly do<BR>> it,<BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at
4:23 PM, Sascha Bieler <<A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de"
target=_blank>sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Ups…<BR>> ><BR>> > Is
it possible to place a second (backup) streamer in another network
and<BR>> > you define a fallback mount?<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > *From:* Taner Sener [mailto:<A
href="mailto:tanersener@gmail.com"
target=_blank>tanersener@gmail.com</A>]<BR>> > *Sent:*
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:15 PM<BR>> ><BR>> > *To:* <A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de"
target=_blank>sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A><BR>> > *Cc:* <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> > *Subject:* Re:
[Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > Actually my IP is static,<BR>> ><BR>>
> My ISP is changing the route (my path to IceCast server). It
takes more<BR>> > than 10 seconds to recover also I'm loosing
the connection.<BR>> ><BR>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at
3:31 PM, Sascha Bieler <<A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de"
target=_blank>sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>> >
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > So you have a dynamic IP-address.
Right? Did you ever thought about a<BR>> > static?<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
> *From:* Taner Sener [mailto:<A
href="mailto:tanersener@gmail.com"
target=_blank>tanersener@gmail.com</A>]<BR>> > *Sent:*
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:11 PM<BR>> > *To:* <A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de"
target=_blank>sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A><BR>> > *Cc:* <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> > *Subject:* Re:
[Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > It happens sometimes after 3 hours, sometimes
after 24 hours and lasts for<BR>> > 15-20 seconds. The problem
is caused by my ISP actually and I can not do<BR>> > anything
from ISP side.<BR>> ><BR>> > My client reconnects
offcourse but server is playing silence during the<BR>> >
failure.<BR>> ><BR>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM,
Sascha Bieler <<A href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de"
target=_blank>sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>> >
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > How long are these interrupts
caused through network failure?<BR>> ><BR>> > Does your
client (streamer) not reconnect automatically?<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > *From:* <A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A>] *On<BR>> > Behalf
Of *Taner Sener<BR>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:25
PM<BR>> > *To:* <A href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org"
target=_blank>icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> > *Subject:* [Icecast]
Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
> Hello,<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm trying to establish a
radio station using Icecast but I need a<BR>> > recommendation
about a problem. I hope you can give me some tips about the<BR>>
> issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > My case is: my icecast server
and ice cast client are in different<BR>> > locations and
connection between these two is not so healthy. Sometimes<BR>>
> network problems causes client to loose connection with server
and this<BR>> > causes server to broadcast silence to the
listeners. I want to get rid of<BR>> > this. What I wonder is
if IceCast Server buffers some amount of time before<BR>> >
broadcasting it to the listeners. I mean the stream data in the
buffer can<BR>> > be broadcasted to listeners when connection
between server and client is<BR>> > lost. I think if there is
such kind of implementation it can help me on<BR>> > solving
this issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > Thanks,<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
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