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color=#0000ff size=2>I doubt that t</FONT></SPAN>he change of routes does "not"
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> icecast-bounces@xiph.org
[mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>thesmile<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 10:59<BR><B>An:</B>
icecast@xiph.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [Icecast] Buffer in
IceCast<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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class=868085908-11062008> </SPAN>Hi
Taner</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I doubt that t</FONT></SPAN>he change of routes does
not affect your connection, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=840280808-11062008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>because
this is normal practise with carriers (BGP or least cost routing) and
usually it has no impact on the enduser, as it happens in
milliseconds.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>My personal thinking is, that your ADSL Provider
disconnects you once or twice a day to unload the DSLAM port and
sometimes, if you do not have a fixed IP address, you even get a new IP
address.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>This disconnect takes a bit long to synchronize in
your case.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Have you checked that? Look into the logfile of your
modem/router.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=840280808-11062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If so, then force your modem or router to do this
disconnect at a fixed time in the middle of the night.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Which equipment are you using?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> icecast-bounces@xiph.org
[mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Taner
Sener<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008 16:14<BR><B>An:</B>
Maarten Bezemer<BR><B>Cc:</B> icecast@xiph.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re:
[Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Maarten,<BR><BR>Yes, I'm behind ADSL with PPPoE but I
don't think it is related with my case. When my client disconnects from
IceCast server for 15-20 seconds, my active downloads are not
interrupted. It currently effects only the route to my IceCast
server, other routes looks uneffected. I'm pinging IceCast server
continuously and checking trace route periodically. It is comething
like: my IceCast server is 6 hops far from me and when my connection
goes-gomes it becomes 8 hops far from me. Also some addresses on trace
route are not the same. This is why I see this situation as a route
change.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Maarten Bezemer
<<A href="mailto:mcbicecast@robuust.nl">mcbicecast@robuust.nl</A>>
wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Hi,<BR><BR>Are
you running behind an ADSL line? If so, what type of ADSL
connection<BR>(PPPoA, RFC1483 bridged), what type of router,
etc.<BR>Also the line quality (noise margin, line speed, rx/tx
attenuation) may be<BR>an important issue. If the line is indeed gone
for 15-20 seconds, this<BR>indicates a retrain/relogin of your
connection. Maybe the logs from your<BR>modem can tell you more about
these outages.<BR><BR>I doubt it is the ISP just changing routes,
since the last mile to you is<BR>always using the same route, and
re-routing anything beyond that point<BR>will have impact on large
numbers of customers. Besides, those wouldn't<BR>take 15-20
seconds.<BR><BR>So, good luck with your new homework
;-)<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><FONT color=#888888> Maarten<BR></FONT>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><BR>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Taner Sener
wrote:<BR><BR>> Well, if it is the only option to overcome the
problems I will certainly do<BR>> it,<BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jun
10, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Sascha Bieler <<A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de">sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Ups…<BR>> ><BR>> > Is it
possible to place a second (backup) streamer in another network
and<BR>> > you define a fallback mount?<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > *From:* Taner Sener [mailto:<A
href="mailto:tanersener@gmail.com">tanersener@gmail.com</A>]<BR>>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:15 PM<BR>> ><BR>> >
*To:* <A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de">sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A><BR>>
> *Cc:* <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org">icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> >
*Subject:* Re: [Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > Actually my IP is static,<BR>>
><BR>> > My ISP is changing the route (my path to IceCast
server). It takes more<BR>> > than 10 seconds to recover also
I'm loosing the connection.<BR>> ><BR>> > On Tue, Jun 10,
2008 at 3:31 PM, Sascha Bieler <<A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de">sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>>
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > So you have a dynamic
IP-address. Right? Did you ever thought about a<BR>> >
static?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > *From:* Taner Sener [mailto:<A
href="mailto:tanersener@gmail.com">tanersener@gmail.com</A>]<BR>>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:11 PM<BR>> > *To:* <A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de">sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A><BR>>
> *Cc:* <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org">icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> >
*Subject:* Re: [Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > It happens sometimes after 3 hours,
sometimes after 24 hours and lasts for<BR>> > 15-20 seconds. The
problem is caused by my ISP actually and I can not do<BR>> >
anything from ISP side.<BR>> ><BR>> > My client reconnects
offcourse but server is playing silence during the<BR>> >
failure.<BR>> ><BR>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM,
Sascha Bieler <<A
href="mailto:sascha.bieler@radiogong.de">sascha.bieler@radiogong.de</A>><BR>>
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > How long are these interrupts
caused through network failure?<BR>> ><BR>> > Does your
client (streamer) not reconnect automatically?<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > *From:* <A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org">icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:icecast-bounces@xiph.org">icecast-bounces@xiph.org</A>]
*On<BR>> > Behalf Of *Taner Sener<BR>> > *Sent:* Tuesday,
June 10, 2008 12:25 PM<BR>> > *To:* <A
href="mailto:icecast@xiph.org">icecast@xiph.org</A><BR>> >
*Subject:* [Icecast] Buffer in IceCast<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > Hello,<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm
trying to establish a radio station using Icecast but I need a<BR>>
> recommendation about a problem. I hope you can give me some tips
about the<BR>> > issue.<BR>> ><BR>> > My case is: my
icecast server and ice cast client are in different<BR>> >
locations and connection between these two is not so healthy.
Sometimes<BR>> > network problems causes client to loose
connection with server and this<BR>> > causes server to
broadcast silence to the listeners. I want to get rid of<BR>> >
this. What I wonder is if IceCast Server buffers some amount of time
before<BR>> > broadcasting it to the listeners. I mean the
stream data in the buffer can<BR>> > be broadcasted to listeners
when connection between server and client is<BR>> > lost. I
think if there is such kind of implementation it can help me
on<BR>> > solving this issue.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Thanks,<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
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