From mayianmm at jmu.edu  Wed Jan  3 17:32:05 2024
From: mayianmm at jmu.edu (Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:32:05 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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Hello,

Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting " 404 - The file you requested could not be found" the error log doesn't really give helpful information.  What could I be doing wrong?

Thanks

Martin Mayiani
Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
540.568.4045
wmra.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wmra.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=eQi7nhx8pVV4tLuhsbN2fg&m=NFlE41P71KSXw5cwSeRchUP5NPq-DGAcQ7PZuBLgoOU&s=kMN-C5UjM7TSPILlWvJ-k5wu4UUakvkqbiJTlV6-zog&e=>

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From marius at flage.org  Wed Jan  3 18:11:37 2024
From: marius at flage.org (Marius Flage)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 19:11:37 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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That 100% depends on what you're trying to access. Try accessing the /admin/ endpoint and see what you have set up there. You also need to specify a relay-stub in the xml configuration, see:?https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/relaying.html--MariusSendt fra min Galaxy
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Hello,

?
Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting ? 404 - The file you requested could not be found? the error log doesn?t really give helpful information.? What could
 I be doing wrong?
?
Thanks

?
Martin Mayiani

Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
540.568.4045
wmra.org
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From j_p_waterhouse at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  7 16:41:17 2024
From: j_p_waterhouse at hotmail.com (John)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 16:41:17 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Secure Connection Failed
Message-ID: <AM7PR09MB41188A8DFB4BE0EBC06C09DFC4642@AM7PR09MB4118.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>


Hello,

I hope this question hasn't been asked and answered too often before.

I have installed Icecast and have it working. I'm now trying to make it work with https. I've configured it as per instructions - at least, I believe I have - and when it try to connect to it, I get an error page that says:


Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to www.<my domain>.com:8000. Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).

Error code: SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP


This is my current icecast.xml


<icecast>
    <limits>
        <clients>100</clients>
        <sources>2</sources>
        <threadpool>5</threadpool>
        <queue-size>524288</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
        <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
        <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <source-password>ClampGonerInferno</source-password>
        <relay-password>BraceFractalHaddock</relay-password>
        <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
        <admin-password>BionicGenteelSpade</admin-password>
    </authentication>
    <hostname>radiofreeneptune.com</hostname>
    <location>Neptune</location>????

    <listen-socket>
        <port>8000</port>
        <bind-address>67.219.147.138</bind-address>
        <ssl>1</ssl>
    </listen-socket>

    <mount>
        <mount-name>/radio.mp3</mount-name>
        <max-listeners>100</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.ogg</dump-file>
        <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <fallback-mount>/radio.ogg</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
        <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
        <hidden>1</hidden>
        <no-yp>1</no-yp>
    </mount>

    <mount>
        <mount-name>/auth_example.ogg</mount-name>
        <authentication type="url">
            <option name="mount_add"       value="http://myauthserver.net/notify_mount.php"/>
            <option name="mount_remove"    value="http://myauthserver.net/notify_mount.php"/>
            <option name="listener_add"    value="http://myauthserver.net/notify_listener.php"/>
            <option name="listener_remove" value="http://myauthserver.net/notify_listener.php"/>
        </authentication>
    </mount>
    <fileserve>1</fileserve>

    <paths>
        <basedir>/usr/share/icecast</basedir>
        <logdir>/var/log/icecast</logdir>
        <webroot>/usr/share/icecast/web</webroot>
        <adminroot>/usr/share/icecast/admin</adminroot>
        <pidfile>/var/run/icecast/icecast.pid</pidfile>
??????<ssl-certificate>/etc/icecast.d/icecast.pem</ssl-certificate>
        <alias source="/" dest="/status.xsl"/>
    </paths>

    <logging>
        <accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
        <errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
        <loglevel>4</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
        <logsize>100000</logsize> <!-- Max size of a logfile -->
    </logging>

    <security>
        <chroot>0</chroot>
        <changeowner>
            <user>icecast</user>
            <group>icecast</group>
        </changeowner>
    </security>
</icecast>

Port 8000 is open, I'm using a Let's Encrypt certificate (works fine for conventional web pages) concatenated into icecast.pem.


If anyone has any suggestions as to what I've done wrong and how to fix it, I'd be seriously grateful.

Thanks.




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From petr.pisar at atlas.cz  Sun Jan  7 18:25:57 2024
From: petr.pisar at atlas.cz (Petr Pisar)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 19:25:57 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Secure Connection Failed
In-Reply-To: <AM7PR09MB41188A8DFB4BE0EBC06C09DFC4642@AM7PR09MB4118.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <ZZrstUlbrXOZCWJb@album.bayer.uni.cx>

V?Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 04:41:17PM +0000,?John napsal(a):
> I have installed Icecast and have it working. I'm now trying to make it work
> with https. I've configured it as per instructions - at least, I believe
> I have - and when it try to connect to it, I get an error page that says:
> 
> 
> Secure Connection Failed
> 
> An error occurred during a connection to www.<my domain>.com:8000. Cannot
> communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).
> 
> Error code: SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP
>
The message says it: A list of encryption algorightms acceptable by the client
and acceptable by the server has an empty intersection.

What algorithms do they support dependends on their configuration and on
a cryptographical libraries they use. You can try looking into their
documentation and configuration. However, much easier will be probably running
them in a more verbose mode to reveal algorithms advertized on the TLS level.
Or capture the network packets and inspect them in a network analyzer, e.g. in
Wireshark.

As far as I know, icecast 2.4.4 hard codes a list of algorithms (search for
CONFIG_DEFAULT_CIPHER_LIST in the sources). This is in general a bad idea as
operating systems vendors and cryptographical library vendors usually know
better what algorightms are suitable. Good software should not override the
defaults. Once of the outcomes of overrides are interoperability issues you
experience.

-- Petr
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From ervin.bizjak at gmail.com  Sun Jan  7 19:00:10 2024
From: ervin.bizjak at gmail.com (Ervin Bizjak)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:00:10 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Secure Connection Failed
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Message-ID: <CABDatASCFgKLJ0PP1DhRMJ6dxGqsmJ-=taid2s=MG6D1p5jbQA@mail.gmail.com>

I have too problem with SSL. My radio work on http (8080) and https (8443).
Lately https is not working properly for me anymore. It worked fine for a
few years. In the morning I turn on the player on https, it works without
problems all day. If I turn it off and on again after a few hours, the
connection no longer works. The connection is established for 1 second and
disconnected. An icecast reset is required.
What is it?

I'm working on WIN 8, , Icecast 2.4.4., SSl = ZeroSSl, bound to IP, not
domain!

V V ned., 7. jan. 2024 ob 19:31 je oseba Petr Pisar <petr.pisar at atlas.cz>
napisala:

> V Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 04:41:17PM +0000, John napsal(a):
> > I have installed Icecast and have it working. I'm now trying to make it
> work
> > with https. I've configured it as per instructions - at least, I believe
> > I have - and when it try to connect to it, I get an error page that says:
> >
> >
> > Secure Connection Failed
> >
> > An error occurred during a connection to www.<my domain>.com:8000. Cannot
> > communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).
> >
> > Error code: SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP
> >
> The message says it: A list of encryption algorightms acceptable by the
> client
> and acceptable by the server has an empty intersection.
>
> What algorithms do they support dependends on their configuration and on
> a cryptographical libraries they use. You can try looking into their
> documentation and configuration. However, much easier will be probably
> running
> them in a more verbose mode to reveal algorithms advertized on the TLS
> level.
> Or capture the network packets and inspect them in a network analyzer,
> e.g. in
> Wireshark.
>
> As far as I know, icecast 2.4.4 hard codes a list of algorithms (search for
> CONFIG_DEFAULT_CIPHER_LIST in the sources). This is in general a bad idea
> as
> operating systems vendors and cryptographical library vendors usually know
> better what algorightms are suitable. Good software should not override the
> defaults. Once of the outcomes of overrides are interoperability issues you
> experience.
>
> -- Petr
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From ervin.bizjak at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 19:02:54 2024
From: ervin.bizjak at gmail.com (Ervin Bizjak)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:02:54 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Secure Connection Failed
Message-ID: <CABDatATEoLXf-dknGXK_W5Vn6OfU=0Z7_vSsTkcAFSnWPOGUJQ@mail.gmail.com>

 I have problem with SSL. My radio work on http (8080) and https (8443).
Lately https is not working properly for me anymore. It worked fine for a
few years. In the morning I turn on the player on https, it works without
problems all day. If I turn it off and on again after a few hours, the
connection no longer works. The connection is established for 1 second and
disconnected. An icecast reset is required.
What is it?

I'm working on WIN 8, , Icecast 2.4.4., SSl = ZeroSSl, bound to IP, not
domain!
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From mayianmm at jmu.edu  Thu Jan 11 19:33:22 2024
From: mayianmm at jmu.edu (Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 19:33:22 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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Hmmm .. so not sure I understand what you mean by that. SO basically what I am trying to do is go to http://hostname:8000/. I have attached the error log as well.

Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 1:12 PM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found

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That 100% depends on what you're trying to access. Try accessing the /admin/ endpoint and see what you have set up there. You also need to specify a relay-stub in the xml configuration, see: https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/relaying.html

--
Marius



Sendt fra min Galaxy


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Emne: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found

Hello,

Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting " 404 - The file you requested could not be found" the error log doesn't really give helpful information.  What could I be doing wrong?

Thanks

Martin Mayiani
Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
540.568.4045
wmra.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wmra.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=eQi7nhx8pVV4tLuhsbN2fg&m=NFlE41P71KSXw5cwSeRchUP5NPq-DGAcQ7PZuBLgoOU&s=kMN-C5UjM7TSPILlWvJ-k5wu4UUakvkqbiJTlV6-zog&e=>

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[2024-01-11  13:52:40] INFO main/main Icecast 2.4.4 server started
[2024-01-11  13:52:40] WARN main/main YP server handling has been disabled
[2024-01-11  13:52:40] INFO connection/get_ssl_certificate No SSL capability on any configured ports
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/start_relay_stream Starting relayed source at mountpoint "/alt"
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/start_relay_stream Starting relayed source at mountpoint "/wxjm"
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/open_relay_connection connecting to 134.126.93.234:8000
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/open_relay_connection connecting to 134.126.93.234:8000
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/start_relay_stream Starting relayed source at mountpoint "/wemc3"
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/open_relay_connection connecting to 134.126.93.234:8000
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/start_relay_stream Starting relayed source at mountpoint "/voice"
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/start_relay_stream Starting relayed source at mountpoint "/wmra3"
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/open_relay_connection connecting to 134.126.93.234:8000
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO slave/open_relay_connection connecting to 134.126.93.234:8000
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] WARN format/format_get_type Unsupported or legacy stream type: "audio/mpeg". Falling back to generic minimal handler for best effort.
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] WARN format/format_get_type Unsupported or legacy stream type: "audio/mpeg". Falling back to generic minimal handler for best effort.
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] WARN format/format_get_type Unsupported or legacy stream type: "audio/mpeg". Falling back to generic minimal handler for best effort.
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO source/source_main listener count on /wxjm now 0
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO source/source_main listener count on /voice now 0
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO source/source_main listener count on /wemc3 now 0
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] WARN format/format_get_type Unsupported or legacy stream type: "audio/mpeg". Falling back to generic minimal handler for best effort.
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO source/source_main listener count on /wmra3 now 0
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] WARN format/format_get_type Unsupported or legacy stream type: "audio/mpeg". Falling back to generic minimal handler for best effort.
[2024-01-11  13:52:41] INFO source/source_main listener count on /alt now 0
[2024-01-11  13:53:11] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:53:31] INFO fserve/fserve_client_create checking for file /index.html (/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html)
[2024-01-11  13:53:31] WARN fserve/fserve_client_create req for file "/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html" Permission denied
[2024-01-11  13:53:41] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:54:11] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:54:41] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:55:11] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:55:41] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request
[2024-01-11  13:55:43] INFO fserve/fserve_client_create checking for file /index.html (/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html)
[2024-01-11  13:55:43] WARN fserve/fserve_client_create req for file "/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html" Permission denied
[2024-01-11  13:56:11] INFO slave/update_from_master Master accepted streamlist request

From marius at flage.org  Thu Jan 11 21:01:24 2024
From: marius at flage.org (Marius Flage)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:01:24 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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I think this is related:

[2024-01-11? 13:55:43] WARN fserve/fserve_client_create req for file 
"/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html" Permission denied

It also seems like you have built icecast from source? Are you sure that 
you have installed it correctly? Maybe you've built it as root and then 
only made the files readable by root, but icecast is running as the 
icecast user and not able to access /usr/local/share/icecast/web ..? I'm 
just guessing.

Can you please show the output of 'ps uaxw | grep icecast' and also the 
output of 'ls -l /usr/local/share/icecast/web/' ?

I guess you're able to get the audio when doing 'curl 
http://hostname:8000/voice' for instance?

--
Marius

On 11.01.2024 20:33, Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm wrote:
>
> Hmmm .. so not sure I understand what you mean by that. SO basically 
> what I am trying to do is go to http://hostname:8000/. I have attached 
> the error log as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> *From:* Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org> *On Behalf Of *Marius Flage
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 3, 2024 1:12 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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> That 100% depends on what you're trying to access. Try accessing the 
> /admin/ endpoint and see what you have set up there. You also need to 
> specify a relay-stub in the xml configuration, see: 
> https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/relaying.html
>
> --
>
> Marius
>
> Sendt fra min Galaxy
>
> -------- Opprinnelig melding --------
>
> Fra: "Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm" <mayianmm at jmu.edu>
>
> Dato: 03.01.2024 18:32 (GMT+01:00)
>
> Til: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
>
> Emne: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
>
> Hello,
>
> Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting ? 404 - The file 
> you requested could not be found? the error log doesn?t really give 
> helpful information.? What could I be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin Mayiani
>
> Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
>
> 540.568.4045
>
> wmra.org 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wmra.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=eQi7nhx8pVV4tLuhsbN2fg&m=NFlE41P71KSXw5cwSeRchUP5NPq-DGAcQ7PZuBLgoOU&s=kMN-C5UjM7TSPILlWvJ-k5wu4UUakvkqbiJTlV6-zog&e=>
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From mayianmm at jmu.edu  Thu Jan 11 21:22:02 2024
From: mayianmm at jmu.edu (Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:22:02 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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Marius,

Yes, I think you nailed it.  I built it from source and I did as root.  And yes I am able to get audio at  http://hostname:8000/voice.  So now I know what the problem is but not sure how to fix it. A clean install?  I kinda messed with the file permissions in the web directory shown below but that didn't solve my problem.

[cid:image001.png at 01DA44A8.DF3507C0]

[cid:image002.png at 01DA44A8.DF3507C0]

Thanks

Martin

From: Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org> On Behalf Of Marius Flage
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found

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I think this is related:

[2024-01-11  13:55:43] WARN fserve/fserve_client_create req for file "/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html" Permission denied

It also seems like you have built icecast from source? Are you sure that you have installed it correctly? Maybe you've built it as root and then only made the files readable by root, but icecast is running as the icecast user and not able to access /usr/local/share/icecast/web ..? I'm just guessing.

Can you please show the output of 'ps uaxw | grep icecast' and also the output of 'ls -l /usr/local/share/icecast/web/' ?

I guess you're able to get the audio when doing 'curl http://hostname:8000/voice' for instance?

--
Marius
On 11.01.2024 20:33, Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm wrote:
Hmmm .. so not sure I understand what you mean by that. SO basically what I am trying to do is go to http://hostname:8000/. I have attached the error log as well.

Thanks

From: Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org><mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org> On Behalf Of Marius Flage
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That 100% depends on what you're trying to access. Try accessing the /admin/ endpoint and see what you have set up there. You also need to specify a relay-stub in the xml configuration, see: https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/relaying.html

--
Marius



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Emne: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found

Hello,

Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting " 404 - The file you requested could not be found" the error log doesn't really give helpful information.  What could I be doing wrong?

Thanks

Martin Mayiani
Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
540.568.4045
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From mayianmm at jmu.edu  Wed Jan 17 17:48:28 2024
From: mayianmm at jmu.edu (Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 17:48:28 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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Just follow up on this: Anyone know how to uninstall Icecast from RHEL after compiling from source?

Thank you so much

Martin

From: Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org> On Behalf Of Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm
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Marius,

Yes, I think you nailed it.  I built it from source and I did as root.  And yes I am able to get audio at  http://hostname:8000/voice.  So now I know what the problem is but not sure how to fix it. A clean install?  I kinda messed with the file permissions in the web directory shown below but that didn't solve my problem.

[cid:image001.png at 01DA4943.7699FA50]

[cid:image002.png at 01DA4943.7699FA50]

Thanks

Martin

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I think this is related:

[2024-01-11  13:55:43] WARN fserve/fserve_client_create req for file "/usr/local/share/icecast/web/index.html" Permission denied

It also seems like you have built icecast from source? Are you sure that you have installed it correctly? Maybe you've built it as root and then only made the files readable by root, but icecast is running as the icecast user and not able to access /usr/local/share/icecast/web ..? I'm just guessing.

Can you please show the output of 'ps uaxw | grep icecast' and also the output of 'ls -l /usr/local/share/icecast/web/' ?

I guess you're able to get the audio when doing 'curl http://hostname:8000/voice' for instance?

--
Marius
On 11.01.2024 20:33, Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm wrote:
Hmmm .. so not sure I understand what you mean by that. SO basically what I am trying to do is go to http://hostname:8000/. I have attached the error log as well.

Thanks

From: Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org><mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org> On Behalf Of Marius Flage
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That 100% depends on what you're trying to access. Try accessing the /admin/ endpoint and see what you have set up there. You also need to specify a relay-stub in the xml configuration, see: https://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/relaying.html

--
Marius



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Emne: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found

Hello,

Setting up new Icecast relay server and I am getting " 404 - The file you requested could not be found" the error log doesn't really give helpful information.  What could I be doing wrong?

Thanks

Martin Mayiani
Operation Specialist WMRA & WEMC
540.568.4045
wmra.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wmra.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=eQi7nhx8pVV4tLuhsbN2fg&m=NFlE41P71KSXw5cwSeRchUP5NPq-DGAcQ7PZuBLgoOU&s=kMN-C5UjM7TSPILlWvJ-k5wu4UUakvkqbiJTlV6-zog&e=>



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From petr.pisar at atlas.cz  Wed Jan 17 18:37:08 2024
From: petr.pisar at atlas.cz (Petr Pisar)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:37:08 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] 404 - The file you requested could not be found
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V?Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 05:48:28PM +0000,?Mayiani, Martin Martine - mayianmm napsal(a):
> Just follow up on this: Anyone know how to uninstall Icecast from RHEL after compiling from source?
>
Go to the directory where you built the sources and execute "make uninstall".
It should delete files from the locations which you installed previously with
"make install" command..

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From marc at clubcapelli.com  Wed Jan 17 18:48:53 2024
From: marc at clubcapelli.com (marc at clubcapelli.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:48:53 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
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hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)

i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio 
station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast

i need :
- good compatibility (windows, mac, android, ios...)
- display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
- cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM db 
?) (or iTunes API?)
- display last 5 or 10 played songs

from now i use this free one here : 
https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a better 
one + the list from RCAST.net
it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in band 
names

thank you very much,
Marc - France
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From epirat07 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 17 19:09:22 2024
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (epirat07 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 20:09:22 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
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References: <SA1PR03MB6467E36CD048C3342BD06D06C160A@SA1PR03MB6467.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi,

On 17 Jan 2024, at 19:48, marc at clubcapelli.com wrote:

> hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)
>
> i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast
>

Please do not hijack other threads for your new, unrelated questions.

If you have a new topic to discuss on the list, write a new email.
Do not reply to an existing one, as it will thread your mail in that
conversation, making it a big mess?

> i need :
> - good compatibility (windows, mac, android, ios...)
> - display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
> - cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM db ?) (or iTunes API?)
> - display last 5 or 10 played songs
>
> from now i use this free one here : https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a better one + the list from RCAST.net
> it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in band names
>
> thank you very much,
> Marc - France_______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From marc at clubcapelli.com  Wed Jan 17 19:58:25 2024
From: marc at clubcapelli.com (marc at clubcapelli.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 20:58:25 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
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References: <SA1PR03MB6467E36CD048C3342BD06D06C160A@SA1PR03MB6467.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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Ok, I understand.
Sorry, i'm going to write a new email.
Have a nice day,
Marc

> Please do not hijack other threads for your new, unrelated questions.
> 
> If you have a new topic to discuss on the list, write a new email.
> Do not reply to an existing one, as it will thread your mail in that
> conversation, making it a big mess?


From marc at clubcapelli.com  Wed Jan 17 20:01:14 2024
From: marc at clubcapelli.com (marc at clubcapelli.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 21:01:14 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
Message-ID: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>


hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)

i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio 
station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast

i need :
- good compatibility (windows, mac, android, ios...)
- display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
- cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM db 
?) (or iTunes API?)
- display last 5 or 10 played songs

from now i use this free one here : 
https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a better 
one + the list from RCAST.net
it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in some 
band names

thank you very much,
Marc - France
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From ohnonot-github at posteo.de  Wed Jan 17 20:54:30 2024
From: ohnonot-github at posteo.de (D.T.)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 20:54:30 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
In-Reply-To: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
References: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
Message-ID: <853eaee7ef0ba874b6b15415f4a61cd38fca070f.camel@posteo.de>

You do not need a "perfect player"- almost all media players can stream
audio, too.
What you need is to save the playlist (.m3u by default) and tell your
media player to play that.



On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 21:01 +0100, marc at clubcapelli.com wrote:
> 
> hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)
> 
> i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio
> station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast
> 
> i need :
> - good compatibility (windows, mac, android, ios...)
> - display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
> - cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM
> db ?) (or iTunes API?)
> - display last 5 or 10 played songs
> 
> from now i use this free one here :
> https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a
> better one + the list from RCAST.net
> it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in
> some band names
> 
> thank you very much,
> Marc - France
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

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From marcusantoniouslee at gmail.com  Wed Jan 17 21:48:59 2024
From: marcusantoniouslee at gmail.com (Mark Lee)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:48:59 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
In-Reply-To: <853eaee7ef0ba874b6b15415f4a61cd38fca070f.camel@posteo.de>
References: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
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Message-ID: <b9a7ecad-bf0b-4caf-9128-2a45033922a9@gmail.com>

Sounds very clear what is being sought: "i'm seeking the perfect player 
for a html website running a radio station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast"

Sounds like the op would be better served by customizing one from player 
code available online at sites like MSDN.

On 2024-01-17 15:54, D.T. wrote:
> You do not need a "perfect player"- almost all media players can 
> stream audio, too.
> What you need is to save the playlist (.m3u by default) and tell your 
> media player to play that.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 21:01 +0100, marc at clubcapelli.com wrote:
>> hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)
>>
>> i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio 
>> station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast
>>
>> i need :
>> - good compatibility (windows, mac, android, ios...)
>> - display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
>> - cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM 
>> db ?) (or iTunes API?)
>> - display last 5 or 10 played songs
>>
>> from now i use this free one here : 
>> https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a 
>> better one + the list from RCAST.net
>> it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in 
>> some band names
>>
>> thank you very much,
>> Marc - France
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
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From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Wed Jan 17 23:53:42 2024
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 23:53:42 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
In-Reply-To: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
References: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
Message-ID: <f6b7b530567db71fda31a23217ce35b375353c05.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good evening,

On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 21:01 +0100, marc at clubcapelli.com wrote:
> hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)
> 
> i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio
> station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast

just to clarify this first: so you're in control of the Icecast and the
source client, correct?


> 
> i need :
> - good compatibility (windows, [...], android

easy

> mac, [...], ios [...]

hard



> - display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)

This is a topic that clearly depends on the above. Apple support
basically dictates the technology, as everyone else is speaking
everything and apple is the limiting factor.

The question here might be what quality of the metadata you need. Is it
just a displayable string, or do you need something else?


> - cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM
> db ?) (or iTunes API?)

Ideally the album art is already in the metadata as sent by the source
client. For everything else details matter.


> - display last 5 or 10 played songs

That should not be a problem at all.


> from now i use this free one here :
> https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a
> better one + the list from RCAST.net
> it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in
> some band names

Metadata needs to be correct on your source client to begin with.
However specifically with legacy codecs this is often a problem as
there is no way to communicate the character set. (This is nothing we
can fix, we can only fix our products ;)


So generally more details are needed to help with that.


You said "seeking the perfect player". This sounds like you're having a
business usecase? Or is this a scientific question?


With best regards,


-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Telephone:???????????+49.3535 490 17 92
Website:?????????????https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us:???????????https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft

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Bickinger Stra?e 21?????????????????????HRB 12308 CB
04916 Herzberg (Elster)?????????????????VATIN/USt-ID:
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From marc at clubcapelli.com  Thu Jan 18 10:32:45 2024
From: marc at clubcapelli.com (marc at clubcapelli.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 11:32:45 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] perfect html player for Icacast ?
In-Reply-To: <f6b7b530567db71fda31a23217ce35b375353c05.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
References: <4debf2048f30ba1d9c07c9cdde1587ca@clubcapelli.com>
 <f6b7b530567db71fda31a23217ce35b375353c05.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
Message-ID: <ae8fdbfeb9f83d18adf2a638315e4d07@clubcapelli.com>

Good morning from France,

I probably wasn't very clear in my question in fact, sorry, I'll try to 
rephrase it :

I have a webradio that works on a independant music website, everything 
is ok on the 3 server : I have control of the Icecast server (Linux VPS) 
and the
source client (Windows server with RadioDJ + MariaDB + HeidiSQL + 
Virtual Audio Cable + MB Recaster) and the HTML webserver for the radio 
website

music tracks play fine h24
the metadata are great displayed: group name and title songs (only 
strings, extract from the file name, very simple, works good)
from these two data, the player we use will search itself for the cover 
of the song (LastFM database probably), and the name of the album and 
display all of that for the listener perfectly on the website, no 
problem
we even have display the history of the last 10 songs
this is all good and works fine, and it is very simple (i can share if 
you are interested)

but it is an assembly of two different players on the same webpage, and 
not a very professional "perfect ultime html player" which would do 
everything on a single solution
and also we sometimes have problems with accents or atypical fonts for 
some bands overseas with strange names :)

so I was wondering if you have found a solution for your own radios that 
was better than this one, a sort of perfect html player on your website 
that does all that very well and much more, for a very low price?

thank you,
Marc - France

Le 2024-01-18 00:53, Philipp Schafft a ?crit?:
> Good evening,
> 
> On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 21:01 +0100, marc at clubcapelli.com wrote:
>> hi friends, (sorry in advance if it is the wrong place to ask)
>> 
>> i'm seeking the perfect player for a html website running a radio
>> station feed by RadioDJ + Icecast
> 
> just to clarify this first: so you're in control of the Icecast and the
> source client, correct?
> 
> 
>> 
>> i need :
>> - good compatibility (windows, [...], android
> 
> easy
> 
>> mac, [...], ios [...]
> 
> hard
> 
> 
> 
>> - display artist & title (send by my encoder in metadata)
> 
> This is a topic that clearly depends on the above. Apple support
> basically dictates the technology, as everyone else is speaking
> everything and apple is the limiting factor.
> 
> The question here might be what quality of the metadata you need. Is it
> just a displayable string, or do you need something else?
> 
> 
>> - cover and album : search & display by the player himself (in LastFM
>> db ?) (or iTunes API?)
> 
> Ideally the album art is already in the metadata as sent by the source
> client. For everything else details matter.
> 
> 
>> - display last 5 or 10 played songs
> 
> That should not be a problem at all.
> 
> 
>> from now i use this free one here :
>> https://www.yesstreaming.com/free-html5-audio-player but i need a
>> better one + the list from RCAST.net
>> it works, but could be better, especialy some errors in accents in
>> some band names
> 
> Metadata needs to be correct on your source client to begin with.
> However specifically with legacy codecs this is often a problem as
> there is no way to communicate the character set. (This is nothing we
> can fix, we can only fix our products ;)
> 
> 
> So generally more details are needed to help with that.
> 
> 
> You said "seeking the perfect player". This sounds like you're having a
> business usecase? Or is this a scientific question?
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> 
> --
> Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
> Telephone:???????????+49.3535 490 17 92
> Website:?????????????https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
> Follow us:???????????https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
> Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft
> 
> L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)?????Registration number:
> Bickinger Stra?e 21?????????????????????HRB 12308 CB
> 04916 Herzberg (Elster)?????????????????VATIN/USt-ID:
> Germany?????????????????????????????????DE305133015
> _______________________________________________
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> Icecast at xiph.org
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From talldarkandstrange at icloud.com  Sun Jan 21 10:39:42 2024
From: talldarkandstrange at icloud.com (TDAS)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:39:42 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
Message-ID: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>

Can anyone tell me why /admin/publicstats is unprotected? And how I go about changing that!?

I don?t understand why it would be accessible by anyone without authenticating when it is under /admin/ ??
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From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Sun Jan 21 11:03:08 2024
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:03:08 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good morning,

On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 10:39 +0000, TDAS wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why?/admin/publicstats?is unprotected? And how I
> go about changing that!?
> 
> I don?t understand why it would be accessible by anyone without
> authenticating when it is under?/admin/???

The endpoint is meant to be a replacement for /status-json.xsl which it
deprecates.

The admin/-namespace is basically everything that is not user provided.
It might not be the best name, but it's called that for historical
reasons?.

Endpoints in the admin/-namespace are subject to normal access control
(and have always been). For example mount specific endpoints have
always been available with the source credentials as well by default.
And the buildm3u endpoint has always been accessible to anyone (as it
is useless otherwise).

Access to those endpoints can be controlled using the normal
allow/deny-admin options, using "publicstats", and "publicstats.json"
as commands.

Please also note that the different stats view are also subject to some
content filtering logic. So you'll find that depending on which of the
endpoints you access and depending on your used credentials you will
have access to different data.


For more details see:
https://wiki.xiph.org/Icecast_Server/2.5_Authentication


With best regards,

-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Telephone:???????????+49.3535 490 17 92
Website:?????????????https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us:???????????https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft

L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)?????Registration number:
Bickinger Stra?e 21?????????????????????HRB 12308 CB
04916 Herzberg (Elster)?????????????????VATIN/USt-ID:
Germany?????????????????????????????????DE305133015


From talldarkandstrange at icloud.com  Sun Jan 21 15:08:10 2024
From: talldarkandstrange at icloud.com (TDAS)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:08:10 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
 <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
Message-ID: <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>

Yeeek. That?s a lot of options :) 

As someone who is pretty savvy but has only ever left Icecast authentication at the defaults, are there any examples, as I need to get it turned off pretty quickly.

Also, as there is no ?publicstats? in the admin dir, I?m guessing it is aliased somewhere. A grep finds:

src/acl.c:    acl_set_admin_str(ret, ACL_POLICY_ALLOW, "buildm3u,publicstats,publicstats.json");
src/admin.c:#define PUBLICSTATS_RAW_REQUEST             "publicstats"
src/admin.c:#define PUBLICSTATS_JSON_REQUEST            "publicstats.json"
src/admin.c:    { PUBLICSTATS_RAW_REQUEST,              ADMINTYPE_HYBRID,       ADMIN_FORMAT_RAW,           ADMINSAFE_SAFE,     command_public_stats, NULL},
src/admin.c:    { PUBLICSTATS_JSON_REQUEST,             ADMINTYPE_HYBRID,       ADMIN_FORMAT_JSON,          ADMINSAFE_SAFE,     command_public_stats, NULL},

?but not sure if I should start messing around in ?c? files. I?m a js guy ;) 



> On 21 Jan 2024, at 11:03, Philipp Schafft <phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 10:39 +0000, TDAS wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me why /admin/publicstats is unprotected? And how I
>> go about changing that!?
>> 
>> I don?t understand why it would be accessible by anyone without
>> authenticating when it is under /admin/ ??
> 
> The endpoint is meant to be a replacement for /status-json.xsl which it
> deprecates.
> 
> The admin/-namespace is basically everything that is not user provided.
> It might not be the best name, but it's called that for historical
> reasons?.
> 
> Endpoints in the admin/-namespace are subject to normal access control
> (and have always been). For example mount specific endpoints have
> always been available with the source credentials as well by default.
> And the buildm3u endpoint has always been accessible to anyone (as it
> is useless otherwise).
> 
> Access to those endpoints can be controlled using the normal
> allow/deny-admin options, using "publicstats", and "publicstats.json"
> as commands.
> 
> Please also note that the different stats view are also subject to some
> content filtering logic. So you'll find that depending on which of the
> endpoints you access and depending on your used credentials you will
> have access to different data.
> 
> 
> For more details see:
> https://wiki.xiph.org/Icecast_Server/2.5_Authentication
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> -- 
> Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
> Telephone:           +49.3535 490 17 92
> Website:             https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
> Follow us:           https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
> Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft
> 
> L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)     Registration number:
> Bickinger Stra?e 21                     HRB 12308 CB
> 04916 Herzberg (Elster)                 VATIN/USt-ID:
> Germany                                 DE305133015
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Sun Jan 21 19:06:48 2024
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 19:06:48 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
 <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <cf3d56e05f151c1087114995a38b22832d7e4b77.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good afternoon,

On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 15:08 +0000, TDAS wrote:
> Yeeek. That?s a lot of options :) 

It's a lot of possibilities! ;)


> As someone who is pretty savvy but has only ever left Icecast
> authentication at the defaults, are there any examples, as I need to
> get it turned off pretty quickly.

I'm not really sure here. That endpoint is meant to be public. Fiddling
with it might break things.

You could try something like this in the global <authentication>
section:
   <role type="anonymous" match-admin="publicstats,publicstats.json" deny-all="*" />

However keep in mind that this does not affect any roles that might
have been evaluated earlier.


> Also, as there is no ?publicstats? in the admin dir, I?m guessing it
> is aliased somewhere. [...]

If you by 'alias' mean rendered, then it's "alias" is the status page
of Icecast ("/status.xsl" normally aliased to "/").


> ?but not sure if I should start messing around in ?c? files. I?m a js
> guy ;) 

I would suggest not to break your update path by building a custom
version. ;)

With best regards,


> > On 21 Jan 2024, at 11:03, Philipp Schafft
> > <phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 10:39 +0000, TDAS wrote:
> > > Can anyone tell me why /admin/publicstats is unprotected? And how
> > > I
> > > go about changing that!?
> > > 
> > > I don?t understand why it would be accessible by anyone without
> > > authenticating when it is under /admin/ ??
> > 
> > The endpoint is meant to be a replacement for /status-json.xsl
> > which it
> > deprecates.
> > 
> > The admin/-namespace is basically everything that is not user
> > provided.
> > It might not be the best name, but it's called that for historical
> > reasons?.
> > 
> > Endpoints in the admin/-namespace are subject to normal access
> > control
> > (and have always been). For example mount specific endpoints have
> > always been available with the source credentials as well by
> > default.
> > And the buildm3u endpoint has always been accessible to anyone (as
> > it
> > is useless otherwise).
> > 
> > Access to those endpoints can be controlled using the normal
> > allow/deny-admin options, using "publicstats", and
> > "publicstats.json"
> > as commands.
> > 
> > Please also note that the different stats view are also subject to
> > some
> > content filtering logic. So you'll find that depending on which of
> > the
> > endpoints you access and depending on your used credentials you
> > will
> > have access to different data.
> > 
> > 
> > For more details see:
> > https://wiki.xiph.org/Icecast_Server/2.5_Authentication
> > 

-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Telephone:???????????+49.3535 490 17 92
Website:?????????????https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us:???????????https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft

L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)?????Registration number:
Bickinger Stra?e 21?????????????????????HRB 12308 CB
04916 Herzberg (Elster)?????????????????VATIN/USt-ID:
Germany?????????????????????????????????DE305133015


From talldarkandstrange at icloud.com  Sun Jan 21 20:01:47 2024
From: talldarkandstrange at icloud.com (TDAS)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:01:47 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <cf3d56e05f151c1087114995a38b22832d7e4b77.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
 <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>
 <cf3d56e05f151c1087114995a38b22832d7e4b77.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
Message-ID: <080B517D-CF03-403C-9794-744AC79CDC92@icloud.com>

Thanks - so 

>   <role type="anonymous" match-admin="publicstats,publicstats.json" deny-all="*" />

?worked, but also blocked all my mount points too! I guess I need to follow it with something like:

 <role type="anonymous" match-admin=?stream.mp3,stream.aac" allow-all="*" />

Or something else? But would that not open up the mount points for anonymous sources also?

> That endpoint is meant to be public

I find this really strange. I?ve never known of an installation of Icecast where they would be happy for anyone to know how many listeners they have. That kind of info is closely guarded (at least, in small radio stations in the UK). So for it to be exposed by default (and on the end of a secure URL), is a bit of a surprise. I would be in a bit of trouble if anyone had spotted it! :)



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From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Sun Jan 21 21:46:03 2024
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:46:03 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <080B517D-CF03-403C-9794-744AC79CDC92@icloud.com>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
 <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>
 <cf3d56e05f151c1087114995a38b22832d7e4b77.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <080B517D-CF03-403C-9794-744AC79CDC92@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <7d44c9ec97bb4e1fe61aad77945282c3e3f46f03.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good evening,

On Sun, 2024-01-21 at 20:01 +0000, TDAS wrote:
> Thanks - so?
> 
> > ???<role type="anonymous" match-
> > admin="publicstats,publicstats.json" deny-all="*" />
> 
> 
> ?worked, but also blocked all my mount points too! I guess I need to
> follow it with something like:
> 
> ?<role type="anonymous" match-admin=?stream.mp3,stream.aac" allow-
> all="*" />
> 
> Or something else?

Something else. Feel free to check out the link I gave you. ;)

Was a bit too fast to reply to you, sadly. But while not in office I
still wanted to help you.

"stream.mp3" and "stream.aac" are clearly not admin commands (nor valid
mount points).

Maybe you should try nomatch-web="*" as indicated in the link? For me
that works.


> But would that not open up the mount points for anonymous sources
> also?

Generally "allow-all" is a dangerous tool. Better not use it if you're
not sure what you're doing. The deny-all="*" is much more helpful.


> > That endpoint is meant to be public
> 
> I find this really strange. I?ve never known of an installation of
> Icecast where they would be happy for anyone to know how many
> listeners they have. That kind of info is closely guarded (at least,
> in small radio stations in the UK). So for it to be exposed by
> default (and on the end of a secure URL), is a bit of a surprise. I
> would be in a bit of trouble if anyone had spotted it! :)

The listener numbers have never been considered a secret. And it feels
like they should not. I mean they even listed in the directory.

If you really need to hide that information you need to seal all access
to the server statistics and skip sending data to a directory service.

But again, that might break any number of things.


With best regard,

-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Telephone:???????????+49.3535 490 17 92
Website:?????????????https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us:???????????https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft

L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)?????Registration number:
Bickinger Stra?e 21?????????????????????HRB 12308 CB
04916 Herzberg (Elster)?????????????????VATIN/USt-ID:
Germany?????????????????????????????????DE305133015


From talldarkandstrange at icloud.com  Sun Jan 21 22:09:28 2024
From: talldarkandstrange at icloud.com (TDAS)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:09:28 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
In-Reply-To: <7d44c9ec97bb4e1fe61aad77945282c3e3f46f03.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
References: <28B4A757-C6CB-4383-A3BB-10CDC0EAA27B@icloud.com>
 <78481f96b7c9356ec5008189795fd4c6a5b97b75.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <FE49B15F-C565-4155-925E-0534966BCDA0@icloud.com>
 <cf3d56e05f151c1087114995a38b22832d7e4b77.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <080B517D-CF03-403C-9794-744AC79CDC92@icloud.com>
 <7d44c9ec97bb4e1fe61aad77945282c3e3f46f03.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
Message-ID: <BCA9B1C4-879F-456D-B17E-042CF6485C22@icloud.com>


> Something else. Feel free to check out the link I gave you. ;)

I?ll have to have a dig around then. Appreciate your help, it?s just a bit urgent for us.

> The listener numbers have never been considered a secret. And it feels
> like they should not. I mean they even listed in the directory.

Try asking any small business to tell you exactly how many patrons they have on each given day. Perhaps it?s different from country to country, but here, that info is never shared. And the idea of having a running statistic online of that exact figure is crazy. 

> If you really need to hide that information you need to seal all access
> to the server statistics and skip sending data to a directory service.

In my config I have:

<!-- Uncomment this if you want directory listings -->

So it appears the default was to have no directory listings. 

> But again, that might break any number of things.

I?m not sure why it would break anything not sending data out to a directory? And dare I say, it shouldn?t!


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From fredg at paravelsystems.com  Mon Jan 22 15:32:54 2024
From: fredg at paravelsystems.com (Fred Gleason)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 10:32:54 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Public stats on beta
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On Jan 21, 2024, at 4:46?PM, Philipp Schafft <phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net> wrote:

> The listener numbers have never been considered a secret. And it feels
> like they should not. I mean they even listed in the directory.
> 
> If you really need to hide that information you need to seal all access
> to the server statistics and skip sending data to a directory service.

FWIW, in the US there are large companies (Nielsen/Arbitron) that charge significant fees for access to this type of information (often aggregated by geographical market and other metrics). So yes, I could see commercial stream operators being quite concerned about leaking this data to all-and-sundry.

Cheers!


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From marc at clubcapelli.com  Fri Jan 26 09:24:55 2024
From: marc at clubcapelli.com (marc at clubcapelli.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:24:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast stats
Message-ID: <fd5fac3a90b22d511820b2f6ebbf43ab@clubcapelli.com>

hi,

Icecast is really a great tool that is easy and quick to use even 
without extreme technical skills, and I am very happy with it.
Works PERFECT !

But what about the... stats ?!
The stats seem very complex to extract and process, with code and 
external solutions...
However, the needs are generally super simple: datetime, songs, IP in a 
log file every 3 minutes and... that's it!
Why didn't they make a simple system like that?

Please how do you manage the stats of your radio stations?

Thank you,
Marc - France


From Ben.Weddle at nashville.gov  Fri Jan 26 15:35:31 2024
From: Ben.Weddle at nashville.gov (Weddle, Ben (Library))
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:35:31 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast stats
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There is some off-the-shelf software for analyzing Icecast logs and presenting things in a helpful way. In the past we used Sawmill. http://www.sawmill.net/formats/ice_cast.html

Ben Weddle

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hi,

Icecast is really a great tool that is easy and quick to use even without extreme technical skills, and I am very happy with it.
Works PERFECT !

But what about the... stats ?!
The stats seem very complex to extract and process, with code and external solutions...
However, the needs are generally super simple: datetime, songs, IP in a log file every 3 minutes and... that's it!
Why didn't they make a simple system like that?

Please how do you manage the stats of your radio stations?

Thank you,
Marc - France
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From jordan at subj.am  Sat Jan 27 19:41:51 2024
From: jordan at subj.am (Jordan Erickson)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:41:51 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] SubJam first beta released
Message-ID: <86a73797-c997-4673-8efc-01e553fa2b10@subj.am>

Hi Icecasters, I wanted to let you know about my new local music 
broadcasting platform that uses Icecast as a streaming backend.

We just released our first very-early-and-buggy-beta for iOS and can 
really use the support of the F/OSS and Creative Commons communities to 
gain traction and identify bugs, do feature requests, etc.

My goal is to provide live broadcasts under the Creative Commons family 
of licenses. This will open many avenues of exposure and support for 
budding, independent and local artists, with a new and unique generosity 
system I've developed that includes small businesses supporting local 
music in their own towns. I want to do for music, what open source has 
done for software. Join me?

https://subj.am/beta/ <https://subj.am/beta/>

- Jordan
(lns on #icecast, @lns on fosstodon.org)
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