From mvandop at xs4all.nl Mon Jun 26 06:35:44 2023 From: mvandop at xs4all.nl (Michel van Dop) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:35:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? Message-ID: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Hello, I am looking for an alternative to Google Analytics with Icecast. Now with log import to Matomo this is working, but real-time is difficult and you also need a log dump for rotation log, or the best is a day or hour log. Does anyone have a solution for this? Or how do you use the statistics? I know this has been asked before but that was 8 years ago and the link to more explanation no longer works. Maybe there is a solution in 2.4.4, KH version or 2.5 version? Best regards, Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Mon Jun 26 08:56:24 2023 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:56:24 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Message-ID: <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Good morning, On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 08:35 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for an alternative to Google Analytics with Icecast. Now > with log import to Matomo this is working, > but real-time is difficult and you also need a log dump for rotation > log, or the best is a day or hour log. > Does anyone have a solution for this? Or how do you use the > statistics? There is the STATS stream that provides real time data. You can also use the event (or on 2.4.x the auth) subsystem to subscribe to events. Really depends a bit in your needs. Both will also include clients (listeners) that are in the flight, meaning they are still connected. Those cannot be in the logs as the log includes data such as the byte counts that are only known once the client disconnected. > I know this has been asked before but that was 8 years ago and the > link to more explanation no longer works. Which link? > Maybe there is a solution in 2.4.4, KH version or 2.5 version? There is a solution in all of them. But please keep in mind that there is no "KH version". Icecast-kh is a fork by a different vendor. I wouldn't recommend to go with it. But if you do you need to use his support channels. With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 From relen at brideswell.com Mon Jun 26 09:42:36 2023 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard G Elen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:42:36 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast-2.4.0-kh20_win64_setup based on ? In-Reply-To: <20230426223716.758f156b@aether> References: <000701d9785e$39db69c0$ad923d40$@gmx.net> <20230426190041.6f26fdbd@aether> <001e01d97867$8a4802c0$9ed80840$@gmx.net> <20230426223716.758f156b@aether> Message-ID: <77499555-8fa0-ee27-162e-4470fbccf7b7@brideswell.com> On 26/04/2023 21:37, Manuel Hirth wrote: > Icecast-KH is a fork maintained by Karl Heyes, that AFAIK initially got > traction because of its FLV support, which was a big feature before > Flash died out, but wasn't a good fit for the Xiph Foundation which > besides Icecast develops and maintains free/libre codecs like FLAC > Opus, and Theora. IIRC Karl Heyes' version gained attention as a result of being specified by PRONET Licensing and their predecessor for their royalty tracking and US music licensing service - https://pronetlicensing.com/ - presumably KH provides stats that aren't otherwise available. The PRONET web site is a bit impenetrable and out of date, but I note: "What kind of streaming servers is your service compatible with? Answer: Shoutcast 1 and Shoutcast 2 and Icecast-KH servers only. (Icecast 2 (non-KH) version 2.4.2 due out in early 2015 will also be supported.)" ...but whether they actually implemented regular Icecast 2.4.2 support I don't know.? It would be worth finding out what it is about the KH branch that make PRONET require it, as there is only one other internet radio licensing service around (Live365) and you can't use your own streaming server with them. RichardE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvandop at xs4all.nl Mon Jun 26 14:29:20 2023 From: mvandop at xs4all.nl (Michel van Dop) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 16:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Message-ID: <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Hello, I use/test now a log wrapper. He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only sends the new data it is fast and almost realtime. This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing i found: https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the past for flash/aac. I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop after 3 seconds after some weeks running fine) using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the https stuttering problem does not arise. Why is the stable relaease for 2.5 delayed so long? Best regards, Michel > Op 26-06-2023 10:56 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft : > > > Good morning, > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 08:35 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for an alternative to Google Analytics with Icecast. Now > > with log import to Matomo this is working, > > but real-time is difficult and you also need a log dump for rotation > > log, or the best is a day or hour log. > > Does anyone have a solution for this? Or how do you use the > > statistics? > > There is the STATS stream that provides real time data. You can also > use the event (or on 2.4.x the auth) subsystem to subscribe to events. > Really depends a bit in your needs. > > Both will also include clients (listeners) that are in the flight, > meaning they are still connected. Those cannot be in the logs as the > log includes data such as the byte counts that are only known once the > client disconnected. > > > > I know this has been asked before but that was 8 years ago and the > > link to more explanation no longer works. > > Which link? > > > > Maybe there is a solution in 2.4.4, KH version or 2.5 version? > > There is a solution in all of them. But please keep in mind that there > is no "KH version". Icecast-kh is a fork by a different vendor. I > wouldn't recommend to go with it. But if you do you need to use his > support channels. > > > With best regards, > > -- > Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) > Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 > Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ > Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ > Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft > > L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: > Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB > 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: > Germany DE305133015 > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Mon Jun 26 15:11:47 2023 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:11:47 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Message-ID: Good morning, On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > Hello, > > I use/test now a log wrapper. > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only sends > the new data it is fast and almost realtime. > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing i > found: > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 This is most likely: https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173 (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.) > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the past > for flash/aac. > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop after 3 > seconds after some weeks running fine) > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the > https stuttering problem does not arise. I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel free to to open tickets for them. Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that was in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that fixed, so please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :) With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 From mvandop at xs4all.nl Tue Jun 27 07:34:25 2023 From: mvandop at xs4all.nl (Michel van Dop) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:34:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Message-ID: <1878471175.2699425.1687851265532@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Hi Philipp, Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in the new version 2.5. And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it the stable 2.5 release? And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer occur? Sorry for straying from the original question :-) Best regards, Michel > Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft : > > > Good morning, > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I use/test now a log wrapper. > > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only sends > > the new data it is fast and almost realtime. > > > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing i > > found: > > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 > > This is most likely: > https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173 > > (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.) > > > > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the past > > for flash/aac. > > > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. > > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop after 3 > > seconds after some weeks running fine) > > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. > > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the > > https stuttering problem does not arise. > > I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel free > to to open tickets for them. > > Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that was > in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that fixed, so > please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :) > > > With best regards, > > -- > Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) > Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 > Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ > Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ > Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft > > L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: > Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB > 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: > Germany DE305133015 > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Tue Jun 27 08:55:46 2023 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:55:46 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <1878471175.2699425.1687851265532@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <1878471175.2699425.1687851265532@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Message-ID: <72558b8116faf2d05ab39a30276619d0468cfefa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Good morning, On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 09:34 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > Hi Philipp, > > Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in the > new version 2.5. keep in mind that the ticket you linked is about dumpfile rotation. log file rotation is the same as it always has been. As this is a very common thing being asked if I may just include: When you want to rotate Icecast's logs for any reason at any time you can just move rename them (also moving to a different same- volume directory). After that you need to send SIGHUP to Icecast. This will ask Icecast to reload the config which also includes releasing the logfiles. When you do that, the logfile is closed and reopened. Once Icecast has started the new file the old is all yours and you can do with it what you want. Two notes here: a) this follows the standard way of UNIX daemons, b) reloading might take a tiny bit of time as it happens async within the server (which also fallows a). This doesn't matter for most applications. However if you need to do operations that are only valid once Icecast has completely released you should wait for the new file to appear (normally within 3 seconds). > And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it the > stable 2.5 release? Currently the main items are optimisation in the build system for the official binaries as well as some politics (as you always have with bigger projects). (Actually those build system sharp corners we work on are what also delays the next release we hoped to do this month.) Generally I would suggest that nobody starts building something new on 2.4.x. However if you're still on 2.4.x it's fine to not yet upgrade. > And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer occur? I'm not fully sure. We never found out. As TLS related software needs to be up to date anyway I would guess that any version that is still considered safe is also working. > Sorry for straying from the original question :-) Then go ahead and open another thread and everyone is fine with it. ;) With best regards, > > Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft < > > phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net>: > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I use/test now a log wrapper. > > > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only > > > sends > > > the new data it is fast and almost realtime. > > > > > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing > > > i > > > found: > > > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 > > > > This is most likely: > > https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173 > > > > (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.) > > > > > > > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the > > > past > > > for flash/aac. > > > > > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. > > > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop > > > after 3 > > > seconds after some weeks running fine) > > > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. > > > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the > > > https stuttering problem does not arise. > > > > I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel > > free > > to to open tickets for them. > > > > Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that > > was > > in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that > > fixed, so > > please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :) -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 From mvandop at xs4all.nl Wed Jun 28 07:19:50 2023 From: mvandop at xs4all.nl (Michel van Dop) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <72558b8116faf2d05ab39a30276619d0468cfefa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <1878471175.2699425.1687851265532@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <72558b8116faf2d05ab39a30276619d0468cfefa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Message-ID: <1055754756.2858328.1687936790542@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Hi Philipp, Okay that's also a nice solution rename the log file and reload icecast. Only it may be that the file size has been reached, turning off archive then is this option is the best way! Thanks The wrapper works well so far. And also retaining the original log files. I check the the Linux machine for the ssl problem for 2.4.4 and 2.5 beta. It is Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) OpenSSL 1.1.1n 15 Mar 2022 I'm looking forward to the final release. Glad you are doing that and developing it. Best regards, Michel > Op 27-06-2023 10:55 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft : > > > Good morning, > > On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 09:34 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > Hi Philipp, > > > > Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in the > > new version 2.5. > > keep in mind that the ticket you linked is about dumpfile rotation. log > file rotation is the same as it always has been. > > As this is a very common thing being asked if I may just include: > When you want to rotate Icecast's logs for any reason at any time > you can just move rename them (also moving to a different same- > volume directory). After that you need to send SIGHUP to Icecast. > This will ask Icecast to reload the config which also includes > releasing the logfiles. When you do that, the logfile is closed and > reopened. Once Icecast has started the new file the old is all yours > and you can do with it what you want. > > Two notes here: a) this follows the standard way of UNIX daemons, b) > reloading might take a tiny bit of time as it happens async within > the server (which also fallows a). This doesn't matter for most > applications. However if you need to do operations that are only > valid once Icecast has completely released you should wait for the > new file to appear (normally within 3 seconds). > > > > And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it the > > stable 2.5 release? > > Currently the main items are optimisation in the build system for the > official binaries as well as some politics (as you always have with > bigger projects). > > (Actually those build system sharp corners we work on are what also > delays the next release we hoped to do this month.) > > > Generally I would suggest that nobody starts building something new on > 2.4.x. However if you're still on 2.4.x it's fine to not yet upgrade. > > > > And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer occur? > > I'm not fully sure. We never found out. As TLS related software needs > to be up to date anyway I would guess that any version that is still > considered safe is also working. > > > > Sorry for straying from the original question :-) > > Then go ahead and open another thread and everyone is fine with it. ;) > > > With best regards, > > > > > Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft < > > > phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net>: > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I use/test now a log wrapper. > > > > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it only > > > > sends > > > > the new data it is fast and almost realtime. > > > > > > > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old mailing > > > > i > > > > found: > > > > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 > > > > > > This is most likely: > > > https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173 > > > > > > (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in the > > > > past > > > > for flash/aac. > > > > > > > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. > > > > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop > > > > after 3 > > > > seconds after some weeks running fine) > > > > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. > > > > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, the > > > > https stuttering problem does not arise. > > > > > > I think those are not really related to this thread. Please feel > > > free > > > to to open tickets for them. > > > > > > Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug that > > > was > > > in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that > > > fixed, so > > > please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :) > > -- > Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) > Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 > Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ > Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ > Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft > > L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: > Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB > 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: > Germany DE305133015 > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Wed Jun 28 09:01:39 2023 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:01:39 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Auto rotation on day/hour or dump possible? In-Reply-To: <1055754756.2858328.1687936790542@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> References: <885757554.2504666.1687761344233@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <217b832af22e66e0d9f6f832c450ecba900b7efa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <860815229.2622686.1687789760889@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <1878471175.2699425.1687851265532@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <72558b8116faf2d05ab39a30276619d0468cfefa.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <1055754756.2858328.1687936790542@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Message-ID: Good Morning, On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 09:19 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > Hi Philipp, > > Okay that's also a nice solution rename the log file and reload > icecast. Only it may be that the file size has been reached, turning > off archive then is this option is the best way! Thanks yes. It's a good idea no to use two rotation methods at the same time. ;) > The wrapper works well so far. And also retaining the original log > files. Perfekt. > I check the the Linux machine for the ssl problem for 2.4.4 and 2.5 > beta. It is Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) OpenSSL 1.1.1n 15 Mar 2022 1.1.1n seems to work file for me at least. > > I'm looking forward to the final release. Glad you are doing that and > developing it. "final". I hope we'll have many more releases over the next hrair years. Hope we also find some common project at some point. Or maybe we'll meet at the next presentation? (Next is 2023-09-22 on HTML5 and CSS3. Everyone on this list invited as always :) With best regards, > > Op 27-06-2023 10:55 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft < > > phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net>: > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 09:34 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > > Hi Philipp, > > > > > > Thank you, thats good news that the log on date rotation is in > > > the > > > new version 2.5. > > > > keep in mind that the ticket you linked is about dumpfile rotation. > > log > > file rotation is the same as it always has been. > > > > As this is a very common thing being asked if I may just include: > > When you want to rotate Icecast's logs for any reason at any > > time > > you can just move rename them (also moving to a different same- > > volume directory). After that you need to send SIGHUP to > > Icecast. > > This will ask Icecast to reload the config which also includes > > releasing the logfiles. When you do that, the logfile is closed > > and > > reopened. Once Icecast has started the new file the old is all > > yours > > and you can do with it what you want. > > > > Two notes here: a) this follows the standard way of UNIX > > daemons, b) > > reloading might take a tiny bit of time as it happens async > > within > > the server (which also fallows a). This doesn't matter for most > > applications. However if you need to do operations that are only > > valid once Icecast has completely released you should wait for > > the > > new file to appear (normally within 3 seconds). > > > > > > > And can you indicate what you are waiting for before making it > > > the > > > stable 2.5 release? > > > > Currently the main items are optimisation in the build system for > > the > > official binaries as well as some politics (as you always have with > > bigger projects). > > > > (Actually those build system sharp corners we work on are what also > > delays the next release we hoped to do this month.) > > > > > > Generally I would suggest that nobody starts building something new > > on > > 2.4.x. However if you're still on 2.4.x it's fine to not yet > > upgrade. > > > > > > > And in which version of openssl does this problem no longer > > > occur? > > > > I'm not fully sure. We never found out. As TLS related software > > needs > > to be up to date anyway I would guess that any version that is > > still > > considered safe is also working. > > > > > > > Sorry for straying from the original question :-) > > > > Then go ahead and open another thread and everyone is fine with it. > > ;) > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > Op 26-06-2023 17:11 CEST schreef Philipp Schafft < > > > > phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 16:29 +0200, Michel van Dop wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I use/test now a log wrapper. > > > > > He checks which log has already been sent. In this way it > > > > > only > > > > > sends > > > > > the new data it is fast and almost realtime. > > > > > > > > > > This was the link that not work about log rotation in old > > > > > mailing > > > > > i > > > > > found: > > > > > https://trac.xiph.org/ticket/2173 > > > > > > > > This is most likely: > > > > https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-server/-/issues/2173 > > > > > > > > (It has been implemented and is part of the next release.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the infomration about the KH version. I use it in > > > > > the > > > > > past > > > > > for flash/aac. > > > > > > > > > > I test 2.5 version and have a very nice interface. > > > > > It did crash once and also had some problems with https (stop > > > > > after 3 > > > > > seconds after some weeks running fine) > > > > > using fallover mountpoints) Same as 2.4.4. > > > > > Caused a lot by using fallover mountpoints. Without fallover, > > > > > the > > > > > https stuttering problem does not arise. > > > > > > > > I think those are not really related to this thread. Please > > > > feel > > > > free > > > > to to open tickets for them. > > > > > > > > Also the 3 seconds with TLS sound very much like the one bug > > > > that > > > > was > > > > in OpenSSL at some point. Newer versions of OpenSSL have that > > > > fixed, so > > > > please check if it's still happening before filing a report. :) -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephone: +49.3535 490 17 92 Website: https://www.loewenfelsen.net/ Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/ Gesch?ftsf?hrer/CEO: Philipp Schafft L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015