From ininow at riseup.net  Fri Dec  2 14:20:10 2022
From: ininow at riseup.net (ininow)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 15:20:10 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Fallbacks on a relay point ?
Message-ID: <a1733eba-6d83-58ac-2dd0-befefbe11ca0@riseup.net>

Hi there !

I'm looking for a solution to get fallback-mounts on relays.


My machine is a DAB+ multiplexer server. I use the odr-mmbtools suite to 
do the job of re-encoding and multiplexing 13 streams. For the moment I 
don't have any fallback system with this tools. So why i'm trying to set 
up an Icecast server locally, to redirect the streams in localhost, with 
a fallback system.

Unfortunately, I had a look to the official documentation, and no way to 
do a fallback with a relay is specified ...

Could I do a relay using a mountpoint ?? Any other idea ?

Thxs :)



From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Fri Dec  2 15:05:33 2022
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2022 15:05:33 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Fallbacks on a relay point ?
In-Reply-To: <a1733eba-6d83-58ac-2dd0-befefbe11ca0@riseup.net>
References: <a1733eba-6d83-58ac-2dd0-befefbe11ca0@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <daefc83b5a43c70274206a930d07ed6d7f0c21a9.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good morning,

On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 15:20 +0100, ininow wrote:
> Hi there !
> 
> I'm looking for a solution to get fallback-mounts on relays.
> 
> 
> 
> [...] For the moment I don't have any fallback system with this
> tools. So why i'm trying to set up an Icecast server locally, to
> redirect the streams in localhost, with  a fallback system.
> 
> Unfortunately, I had a look to the official documentation, and no way
> to do a fallback with a relay is specified ...
> 
> Could I do a relay using a mountpoint ?? Any other idea ?

I'm not fully sure what the problem is.

You just need to set the fallback in the corresponding <mount> section.
And it should just work. Have you tried that?

With best regards,

-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) 
Telephon:  +49.3535 490 17 92
Website:   https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/

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From ininow at riseup.net  Fri Dec  2 15:17:11 2022
From: ininow at riseup.net (ininow)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:17:11 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Fallbacks on a relay point ?
In-Reply-To: <daefc83b5a43c70274206a930d07ed6d7f0c21a9.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
References: <a1733eba-6d83-58ac-2dd0-befefbe11ca0@riseup.net>
 <daefc83b5a43c70274206a930d07ed6d7f0c21a9.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
Message-ID: <da9f5d2b-5c9e-6c65-2710-7247ab682260@riseup.net>

Maybe it wasn't explicit enough because of my poor english, sorry.

I dont need any mountpoint, only relays maybe.

On my machine, my ODR encoders ask for a stream in input. I get the 
streams from the web, but sometimes one of the streams falls. In this 
case, i want to have a fallback. That's only for this reason i'm trying 
to use an icecast server locally. The idea is : doing specific relays of 
each stream, and specify a fallback ... So no mount needed for the 
moment in my config file.

thxs

Clement



Le 02/12/2022 ? 16:05, Philipp Schafft a ?crit?:
> Good morning,
>
> On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 15:20 +0100, ininow wrote:
>> Hi there !
>>
>> I'm looking for a solution to get fallback-mounts on relays.
>>
>>
>>
>> [...] For the moment I don't have any fallback system with this
>> tools. So why i'm trying to set up an Icecast server locally, to
>> redirect the streams in localhost, with  a fallback system.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I had a look to the official documentation, and no way
>> to do a fallback with a relay is specified ...
>>
>> Could I do a relay using a mountpoint ?? Any other idea ?
> I'm not fully sure what the problem is.
>
> You just need to set the fallback in the corresponding <mount> section.
> And it should just work. Have you tried that?
>
> With best regards,
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net  Fri Dec  2 16:18:06 2022
From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2022 16:18:06 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Fallbacks on a relay point ?
In-Reply-To: <da9f5d2b-5c9e-6c65-2710-7247ab682260@riseup.net>
References: <a1733eba-6d83-58ac-2dd0-befefbe11ca0@riseup.net>
 <daefc83b5a43c70274206a930d07ed6d7f0c21a9.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>
 <da9f5d2b-5c9e-6c65-2710-7247ab682260@riseup.net>
Message-ID: <6d46c9e5d34a23570531256d4b778ce30818ad2c.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net>

Good evening,

On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 16:17 +0100, ininow wrote:
> Maybe it wasn't explicit enough because of my poor english, sorry.

No worries. Most of us aren't native speakers. :)


> I dont need any mountpoint, only relays maybe.

I think that hints into the direction of a misunderstanding.


> On my machine, my ODR encoders ask for a stream in input. I get the
> streams from the web, but sometimes one of the streams falls. In
> this case, i want to have a fallback. That's only for this reason
> i'm trying to use an icecast server locally. The idea is : doing
> specific relays of each stream, and specify a fallback ... So no
> mount needed for the moment in my config file.

Generally speaking: Maybe you want to recheck the settings of your
encoders, maybe they have some kind of fallback feature build in.

But back to Icecast:

I think you have a wrong idea of what a mountpoint is.

A mountpoint is a *name*. It's *not* some kind of resource. It is just
a name a resource could have.

You likely confuse this with a source (connection): That is when some
software mounts a stream onto a mountpoint. Then that stream becomes
known by this name.

So, what is a relay than: A "relay" as configured by the relay config
is just a source client that is build into Icecast forwarding an
external stream to Icecast.

So all a relay section does is to ask Icecast to start a source client.
And that source client is just a source client as any other one.

... Then hat does <mount> do?:
The <mount> config section is configuration that is applied to clients
interacting with a given mount point when they do. This means a few
things:
 * A <mount> section doesn't do anything by itself. It is only a
   template used when a client actually makes some kind of request.
 * You can use a <mount> section for every valid mount point. (That is
   everything not under the /admin subtree.) It doesn't matter what
   kind of resource is mounted (stream, static page, status page,...)
   if any (it is still applied if there is nothing mounted).


Which brings me to:
Why not just define a fallback in the mount section? ;)


With best regards,

-- 
Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) 
Telephon:  +49.3535 490 17 92
Website:   https://www.loewenfelsen.net/
Follow us: https://www.linkedin.com/company/loewenfelsen/

L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt)     Registration number:
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From programcoordinator at whus.org  Thu Dec 29 17:12:56 2022
From: programcoordinator at whus.org (Jason McMullan)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:12:56 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Stats question
Message-ID: <CAJvKZkQkZdhpC8_RN20OrnYXHU+iR+XaQwmpWa9OdykW1zcWrw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We're running Icecast 2.4.3 on ubuntu 18.04 and it's been working great for
us. Thanks to all the folks that have contributed to this project!

This may be a dumb question, but I have not been able to find any
documentation or recent discussion of how to create logs to record
historical listener data. I know it must be possible to do this by pulling
data from <server:port/status-json.xsl> or one of the similar sources of
real time Icecast data but I could use some guidance on how to do that, or
maybe there is a better way to get this information. I would like to be
able to access something like the following.

   - Total listeners per week/month/year
   - The hour with the most listeners per week/month/year
   - Approximate aggregate tuning hours per week/month/year

Thanks for any insight you can provide.
Jason McMullan
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Program Coordinator at WHUS Radio
whus.org . programcoordinator at whus.org
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