From racuk12 at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 10:58:27 2018 From: racuk12 at gmail.com (Robert Chalmers) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:58:27 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? Message-ID: <08782493-7164-4F62-9239-9801E05AA3CA@gmail.com> I have https/ssl on my site ok, but it uses two certificates from letsencrypt which renew automatically every three months. However - Icecase says. ssl-certificate If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a ?Invalid cert file? WARN message, just as if the file wasn?t there. So what is meant here. How do I combine my keys into a file to satisfy this? Thanks Robert From walteryork at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:47:38 2018 From: walteryork at hotmail.com (Walter York) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:47:38 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? In-Reply-To: <08782493-7164-4F62-9239-9801E05AA3CA@gmail.com> References: <08782493-7164-4F62-9239-9801E05AA3CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Robert, There is a github repo that will create and then another script to renew your Let's Encrypt Certs for Icecast. The commands are well documented to help you customize for your specific implementation. The Repo is here: https://github.com/amavarick/letsencrypt_certbot_standalone_icecast The commands to concatenate the certs are: #Replace domain.tld for the name of your domain as setup in Let's Encrypt. #Append FullChain to Icecast certificate cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/fullchain.pem > /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem #Append privkey to Icecast certificate cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/privkey.pem >> /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem I ended up moving to Icecast-KH because they don not require combined certificates, it handles encryption much better as you can use the same port for both http and https and other encryption improvements that make it better than icecast. ________________________________ From: Icecast on behalf of Robert Chalmers Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 5:58 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? I have https/ssl on my site ok, but it uses two certificates from letsencrypt which renew automatically every three months. However - Icecase says. ssl-certificate If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a ?Invalid cert file? WARN message, just as if the file wasn?t there. So what is meant here. How do I combine my keys into a file to satisfy this? Thanks Robert _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast Icecast Info Page - Xiph.Org Foundation lists.xiph.org While this list and IRC are preferred for user support. There is also a web forum for user support. See icecast.org for links. To see the collection of prior postings ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From racuk12 at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:59:04 2018 From: racuk12 at gmail.com (Robert Chalmers) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:59:04 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? In-Reply-To: References: <08782493-7164-4F62-9239-9801E05AA3CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Walter, Brilliant. I?ll have to have a look at KH. Too many moving parts being collected in this one. Nice little shell script will do the concat nicely meantime. I like the idea of just using the one port for both. In which case I?ll stick with the https port. I have content policy etc enabled on that site. > On 6 Mar 2018, at 14:47, Walter York wrote: > > Robert, > > There is a github repo that will create and then another script to renew your Let's Encrypt Certs for Icecast. The commands are well documented to help you customize for your specific implementation. > > The Repo is here: > https://github.com/amavarick/letsencrypt_certbot_standalone_icecast > > The commands to concatenate the certs are: > #Replace domain.tld for the name of your domain as setup in Let's Encrypt. > #Append FullChain to Icecast certificate > cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/fullchain.pem > /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem > #Append privkey to Icecast certificate > cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/privkey.pem >> /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem > > I ended up moving to Icecast-KH because they don not require combined certificates, it handles encryption much better as you can use the same port for both http and https and other encryption improvements that make it better than icecast. > > From: Icecast on behalf of Robert Chalmers > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 5:58 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? > > > I have https/ssl on my site ok, but it uses two certificates from letsencrypt which renew automatically every three months. > However - Icecase says. > > ssl-certificate > If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a ?Invalid cert file? WARN message, just as if the file wasn?t there. > > So what is meant here. How do I combine my keys into a file to satisfy this? > > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > Icecast Info Page - Xiph.Org Foundation > lists.xiph.org > While this list and IRC are preferred for user support. There is also a web forum for user support. See icecast.org for links. To see the collection of prior postings ... > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast Robert Chalmers https://robert-chalmers.uk author at robert-chalmers.uk @R_A_Chalmers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From racuk12 at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 15:23:16 2018 From: racuk12 at gmail.com (Robert Chalmers) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 15:23:16 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? In-Reply-To: References: <08782493-7164-4F62-9239-9801E05AA3CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Walter, Very nice. Compiles out of the box on the Mac Sierra. (Mac Mini) and seems to run without issues. Not much in the log files. Few warnings but nothing major. Most excellent - thanks. And here?s me thinking my week was done? I haven?t done a make install yet for obvious reasons. Just ran it out of it?s make directory. I want to be sure I see where it will install it?s bits. So a little bit of investigation yet. Thanks again for the pointers to the version. Robert > On 6 Mar 2018, at 14:47, Walter York wrote: > > Robert, > > There is a github repo that will create and then another script to renew your Let's Encrypt Certs for Icecast. The commands are well documented to help you customize for your specific implementation. > > The Repo is here: > https://github.com/amavarick/letsencrypt_certbot_standalone_icecast > > The commands to concatenate the certs are: > #Replace domain.tld for the name of your domain as setup in Let's Encrypt. > #Append FullChain to Icecast certificate > cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/fullchain.pem > /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem > #Append privkey to Icecast certificate > cat /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain.tld/privkey.pem >> /usr/share/icecast/ssl/domain.tld.pem > > I ended up moving to Icecast-KH because they don not require combined certificates, it handles encryption much better as you can use the same port for both http and https and other encryption improvements that make it better than icecast. > > From: Icecast on behalf of Robert Chalmers > Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 5:58 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [Icecast] How do I combine my ssl certs? > > > I have https/ssl on my site ok, but it uses two certificates from letsencrypt which renew automatically every three months. > However - Icecase says. > > ssl-certificate > If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a ?Invalid cert file? WARN message, just as if the file wasn?t there. > > So what is meant here. How do I combine my keys into a file to satisfy this? > > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > Icecast Info Page - Xiph.Org Foundation > lists.xiph.org > While this list and IRC are preferred for user support. There is also a web forum for user support. See icecast.org for links. To see the collection of prior postings ... > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast Robert Chalmers https://robert-chalmers.uk author at robert-chalmers.uk @R_A_Chalmers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simdine at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 17:33:20 2018 From: simdine at gmail.com (Mr. ISMAILA) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 18:33:20 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Show all audiance in Icecast directory... cluster ? Message-ID: Hello, I installed Icecast 2.4.3 by downloading http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/icecast/icecast-2.4.3.tar.gz CentOS 7 Then ./configure make make install Its working. My only issue : I have 3 streams, I see the name of my station 3 times in Icecast directory. I tryed to hide 2 streams by using the hidden and public tags and force showing the total of audiance in the one public stream. i used key but no success. /stream1 My stream Description http://domain.com Hits 192 application/mp3 mp3 0 1 384000 192000 azertyuiop /stream2 My stream Description http://domain.com Hits 128 application/mp3 mp3 1 0 256000 128000 azertyuiop /stream3 My stream Description http://domain.com Hits 64 application/mp3 mp3 0 1 128000 64000 azertyuiop How to show onlyone stream [stream2] With the total of all audiance in http://dir.xiph.org ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artuch at speedy.com.ar Sun Mar 11 19:52:19 2018 From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 16:52:19 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast Listenter Count Stat - BASH or php? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1520797939.6390.1.camel@speedy.com.ar> Hi ScanCaster, Some like this ? ... https://www.radioz.online/oyentes.php https://www.radioz.online/i/datos.php Connect and disconnect to https://www.radioz.online to check both. Regards. Jos? Luis El jue, 08-03-2018 a las 04:54 +0000, ScanCaster escribi?: > Is there some simple way to get just the listener count on mounts out > of? > IceCast, specifically 2.4.1 > > Via BASH preferred, or CLI php if I must, I guess python 2.x would be > an? > option too. (3.x is not an option though!) > > All the stuff I've seen is scrapping things from the status.xsl, > which is? > bad form. > > I really just need the listener count, and something I can run say > every? > 2-3 minutes via CRON job. Also note, any solution has to work on > Linux, I? > do not use any non Linux platforms. > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From jvoosten at bankai.nl Mon Mar 12 21:07:34 2018 From: jvoosten at bankai.nl (Jeroen van Oosten) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:07:34 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast Listenter Count Stat - BASH or php? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, On 08-03-18 05:54, ScanCaster wrote: > Is there some simple way to get just the listener count on mounts out of > IceCast, specifically 2.4.1 > > Via BASH preferred, or CLI php if I must, I guess python 2.x would be an > option too. (3.x is not an option though!) > > All the stuff I've seen is scrapping things from the status.xsl, which is > bad form. Well, you can create your own XSL with less data. I use this (as web/simple.xsl): MountPoint,Connections,Stream Name,Current Listeners,Description,Currently Playing,Stream URL Global,Client: Source: ,,,, ,,,,, - , ...which looks complex but spits out a comma-separated list of values: MountPoint,Connections,Stream Name,Current Listeners,Description,Currently Playing,Stream URL Global,Client:2338283 Source: ,,3,, /high.aac,,,1,, - Sheppard - Geronimo, /high.mp3,,,2,, - Sheppard - Geronimo, /low.aac,,,0,, - Sheppard - Geronimo, /shoutcast.mp3,,,0,, - , If necessary you can trim down the data even more to just: > I really just need the listener count, and something I can run say every > 2-3 minutes via CRON job. Also note, any solution has to work on Linux, I > do not use any non Linux platforms. Upload your XSL, then: $ wget -q -O simple.txt http://your.radio.station:port/simple.xsl Or output to stdout and pipe it into whatever you want. Regards, ?- Jeroen -- Bankai Software bv Jeroen van Oosten Telefoon: 088-2344999 E-mail: jvoosten at bankai.nl KvK inschrijving: 67066267 PGP key: B2308F8E "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." --Red Adair From un at aporee.org Wed Mar 14 15:19:49 2018 From: un at aporee.org (unosonic) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:19:49 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast Listenter Count Stat - BASH or php? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180314151949.GA11616@aporee.org> just parse status-json.xsl with php's curl/json_parse... ScanCaster: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:07:34 +0100, Jeroen van Oosten wrote: > > > Well, you can create your own XSL with less data. I use this (as > > web/simple.xsl): > > Well since I don't know XSL, BASH etc. was my go to choice... > > BUT... > > Doing this gets > 404's from a browser or wget > > > I put this in the folder as per below, did a kill -HUP and still get > 404's > > root at audio:/etc/icecast2/web# ls -la > total 36 > drwxrwxr-x 2 icecast2 icecast 4096 Mar 14 10:38 . > drwxrwxr-x 4 icecast2 icecast 4096 Jul 22 2017 .. > -rw-rw-r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 2009 Dec 14 2014 auth.xsl > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Mar 14 10:39 count.txt > -rw-r--r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 500 Mar 14 10:34 count.xsl > -rw-rw-r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 2182 Dec 14 2014 server_version.xsl > -rw-rw-r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 1882 Dec 14 2014 status-json.xsl > -rw-rw-r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 5321 Dec 14 2014 status.xsl > -rw-rw-r-- 1 icecast2 icecast 3879 Dec 14 2014 style.css > root at audio:/etc/icecast2/web# cat count.xsl > = "1.0" > > > > > > > > > > > root at audio:/etc/icecast2/web# wget -O count.txt http:// > audio.xxxxxxx.tld:8000/count.xsl > --2018-03-14 10:39:31-- http://audio.xxx.tld:8000/count.xsl > Resolving audio.xxx.tld (audio.xxx.tld)... 23.250.7.36 > Connecting to audio.xxxx.tld (audio.xxx.tld)|23.250.7.36|:8000... > connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 File Not Found > 2018-03-14 10:39:31 ERROR 404: File Not Found. > > IF I rename it to status.xsl then it works... > > How do to get it to rescan the web dir??? killing and restarting is not > an option. Dumping several hundred listeners is not good form. > > Also can this be customized to JUST ONE MOUNT??? > > IE: For EACH MOUNT I would have one of these counMOunt1.xsl and then I > process each in turn for their count > > THANKS! > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From epirat07 at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 00:19:40 2018 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 01:19:40 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Show all audiance in Icecast directory... cluster ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8BD9BEF4-19E5-43BD-B9D1-66F6B6C7043F@gmail.com> On 7 Mar 2018, at 18:33, Mr. ISMAILA wrote: > Hello, > > I installed Icecast 2.4.3 by downloading > http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/icecast/icecast-2.4.3.tar.gz > > CentOS 7 > > Then > > ./configure > make > make install > > Its working. > > My only issue : I have 3 streams, I see the name of my station 3 times in > Icecast directory. I tryed to hide 2 streams by using the hidden and public > tags and force showing the total of audiance in the one public stream. i > used key but no success. > > > /stream1 > My stream > Description > http://domain.com > Hits > 192 > application/mp3 > mp3 > 0 > 1 > 384000 > 192000 > azertyuiop > > > /stream2 > My stream > Description > http://domain.com > Hits > 128 > application/mp3 > mp3 > 1 > 0 > 256000 > 128000 > azertyuiop > > > /stream3 > My stream > Description > http://domain.com > Hits > 64 > application/mp3 > mp3 > 0 > 1 > 128000 > 64000 > azertyuiop > > > How to show onlyone stream [stream2] With the total of all audiance in > http://dir.xiph.org ? I don't think thats possible. > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From sm at noisynotes.com Sat Mar 17 00:29:32 2018 From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:29:32 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Short Title Bar Message-ID: <3a737ff5-b783-495c-d738-edb191789600@noisynotes.com> It used to be that streamed titles could exceed thirty characters. Ever since I upgraded to I believe it was version 2.4.0, no matter what I send, there's a truncation of the artist-plus-title combined sting. At first, I thought it was an ices-cc problem, but it isn't, because when live programs connect to the input port, the title bar still cuts off at thirty characters. I've looked from end to end in the XML and the documentation but can find no reference to a length limit. Is it 2.4.x that's changed something? Something else? Thanks in advance. From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Sat Mar 17 10:24:22 2018 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:24:22 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Short Title Bar In-Reply-To: <3a737ff5-b783-495c-d738-edb191789600@noisynotes.com> References: <3a737ff5-b783-495c-d738-edb191789600@noisynotes.com> Message-ID: <1521282262.2415.82.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Good morning, On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 20:29 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: > It used to be that streamed titles could exceed thirty characters. Ever > since I upgraded to I believe it was version 2.4.0, no matter what I > send, there's a truncation of the artist-plus-title combined sting. At > first, I thought it was an ices-cc problem, but it isn't, because when > live programs connect to the input port, the title bar still cuts off at > thirty characters. I've looked from end to end in the XML and the > documentation but can find no reference to a length limit. Is it 2.4.x > that's changed something? Something else? 2.4.x as well as 2.5.x has no changes that alter the supported length of the metadata. For VorbisComment based codes (Vorbis, Opus, FLAC, ...) the limits is at about 4GB. For WebM the limits are the same as per WebM specs. For MP3 and AAC the limit is at about 4KB as per ICY brokenness. "thirty characters" sounds like the old ID3 limit of 30 byte. (32 byte minus termination minus track number). Icecast also at no point truncate the metadata but logs a warning in case meta data does not fit into the used transport. It will still show the metadata in the status page. If the status page does show altered metadata than this is what has been sent by the source client. My best guess is that your software uses a tagging library that was updated and now imposes this limit somehow. With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephon: +49.3535 490 17 92 L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cliff at redarrowsc.com Thu Mar 29 20:51:11 2018 From: cliff at redarrowsc.com (Cliff Witherspoon) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Question Message-ID: I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. Cliff Witherspoon Red Arrow Entertainment 864-613-4201 From drh0603 at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 21:18:22 2018 From: drh0603 at gmail.com (David R Howard) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:18:22 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://newl2mr.listen2myradio.com/login-free.php David R Howard Papa D Productions www.papa-d.uk On 29 March 2018 at 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: > I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to > Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that > uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have > no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help > me with that. > > Cliff Witherspoon > Red Arrow Entertainment > 864-613-4201 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From epirat07 at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 21:43:37 2018 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:43:37 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 29 Mar 2018, at 22:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: > I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to > Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station > that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast > live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac > computers. Can someone help me with that. If all you need is to stream your Macs audio to Icecast, you can use Ladiocast for that. http://blog.kawauso.com/ladiocast > > Cliff Witherspoon > Red Arrow Entertainment > 864-613-4201 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From relen at brideswell.com Thu Mar 29 21:37:57 2018 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard Elen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:37:57 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> If you can split the feed, eg with Audio Hijack, you could feed the audio into a streaming audio client, such as Nicecast (mp3 only, $, due to be discontinued), LadioCast (mp3/AAC, free, App Store) or BUTT (free) and send it to the server. All three of those apps support Icecast logins. --R On 29-Mar-18 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: > I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. > > Cliff Witherspoon > Red Arrow Entertainment > 864-613-4201 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From cliff at redarrowsc.com Fri Mar 30 02:30:26 2018 From: cliff at redarrowsc.com (Cliff Witherspoon) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:30:26 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> References: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the help. Will work on that. Cliff Witherspoon Red Arrow Entertainment 864-613-4201 > On Mar 29, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Richard Elen wrote: > > If you can split the feed, eg with Audio Hijack, you could feed the audio into a streaming audio client, such as Nicecast (mp3 only, $, due to be discontinued), LadioCast (mp3/AAC, free, App Store) or BUTT (free) and send it to the server. All three of those apps support Icecast logins. > > --R > > >> On 29-Mar-18 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >> I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. >> >> Cliff Witherspoon >> Red Arrow Entertainment >> 864-613-4201 >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From relen at brideswell.com Fri Mar 30 09:04:39 2018 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard Elen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:04:39 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: References: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> Message-ID: <62e39c7b-e698-d78d-3372-23bedf335eec@brideswell.com> Hi, Cliff... The suggestions I've made assume that the station would allow you to drive their server for the duration of the program. This may not be the case. If so, then you may want to set up a streaming audio server yourself and supply its address to the station; they can then receive your feed and rebroadcast it via their normal output channels. However the downside of this is that the signal would be encoded, decoded and re-encoded by the time it was broadcast. The original solution I proposed had you driving the station's servers directly, which would be preferable - they should be able to set up a DJ account for you - this is especially easy if they have a system like Centova on their Icecast system. If you DO want to set up a special server for the feed yourself, you can of course run up your own Icecast server, or rent a stream from a provider (extremely easy). Alternatively, NiceCast allows you to create a local streaming server on your Mac and the station you're working with can tune in to that to receive your live audio. However NiceCast (from Rogue Amoeba) is no longer supported: you may have to ask them about it. There are also other ways of getting your live audio feed from your studio to the station. You could set up what is essentially a studio-transmitter link (STL), using broadcast hardware designed for the purpose. A good and relatively cheap (a few hundred $) example of gear for this is the DEVA Broadcast DB91-TX and DB91-RX which allow you to send a CD-quality uncompressed PCM stream from your location (using the TX unit) to the station (who would have the RX unit). The TX unit can also log into to an Icecast 2 (or deprecated Shoutcast 1) streaming audio server, so the TX unit is ANOTHER solution to driving the station's Icecast server directly, instead of the software solutions described earlier. We run the DB91-TX to feed from our playout system to our Icecast 2 KH servers and it works beautifully. http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-tx http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-rx I hope this helps! --Richard E On 30-Mar-18 03:30, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: > Thanks for the help. Will work on that. > > Cliff Witherspoon > Red Arrow Entertainment > 864-613-4201 > >> On Mar 29, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Richard Elen wrote: >> >> If you can split the feed, eg with Audio Hijack, you could feed the audio into a streaming audio client, such as Nicecast (mp3 only, $, due to be discontinued), LadioCast (mp3/AAC, free, App Store) or BUTT (free) and send it to the server. All three of those apps support Icecast logins. >> >> --R >> >> >>> On 29-Mar-18 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >>> I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. >>> >>> Cliff Witherspoon >>> Red Arrow Entertainment >>> 864-613-4201 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Icecast mailing list >>> Icecast at xiph.org >>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > From relen at brideswell.com Fri Mar 30 11:20:12 2018 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard Elen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 12:20:12 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: References: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> <62e39c7b-e698-d78d-3372-23bedf335eec@brideswell.com> Message-ID: <46ac28f5-9d3f-0dfd-af6a-b68c1a635a9c@brideswell.com> Excellent - you'll need to make sure that you have the settings that they use for their broadcasts so that you can take over the stream seamlessly with no issues. This means: * Audio encoder (generally mp3, HE-AAC or AAC+) Nicecast only does mp3; BUTT and LadioCast support both mp3 and AAC; AAC offers higher audio quality at a lower data rate * Data rate (kb/sec) (Hopefully at least 128kb/s if mp3, preferably more) * Sample rate (generally 44.1 kHz) * Word length (generally 16-bit) * Stereo/mono (generally stereo) You'll want to agree handover protocols between you so that you can take the stream and hand it back as smoothly as possible without interruptions. We do this with a text instant messaging channel and count down to handover. --R On 30-Mar-18 12:03, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: > Thank you Richard. They do have me set up with a DJ account to I will put all of this together today and see what I can make work. Thanks to all. > > Cliff Witherspoon > Red Arrow Entertainment > 864-613-4201 > >> On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:04 AM, Richard Elen wrote: >> >> Hi, Cliff... >> >> The suggestions I've made assume that the station would allow you to drive their server for the duration of the program. This may not be the case. >> >> If so, then you may want to set up a streaming audio server yourself and supply its address to the station; they can then receive your feed and rebroadcast it via their normal output channels. However the downside of this is that the signal would be encoded, decoded and re-encoded by the time it was broadcast. The original solution I proposed had you driving the station's servers directly, which would be preferable - they should be able to set up a DJ account for you - this is especially easy if they have a system like Centova on their Icecast system. >> >> If you DO want to set up a special server for the feed yourself, you can of course run up your own Icecast server, or rent a stream from a provider (extremely easy). Alternatively, NiceCast allows you to create a local streaming server on your Mac and the station you're working with can tune in to that to receive your live audio. However NiceCast (from Rogue Amoeba) is no longer supported: you may have to ask them about it. >> >> There are also other ways of getting your live audio feed from your studio to the station. You could set up what is essentially a studio-transmitter link (STL), using broadcast hardware designed for the purpose. A good and relatively cheap (a few hundred $) example of gear for this is the DEVA Broadcast DB91-TX and DB91-RX which allow you to send a CD-quality uncompressed PCM stream from your location (using the TX unit) to the station (who would have the RX unit). The TX unit can also log into to an Icecast 2 (or deprecated Shoutcast 1) streaming audio server, so the TX unit is ANOTHER solution to driving the station's Icecast server directly, instead of the software solutions described earlier. We run the DB91-TX to feed from our playout system to our Icecast 2 KH servers and it works beautifully. >> >> http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-tx >> >> http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-rx >> >> I hope this helps! >> >> --Richard E >> >> >>> On 30-Mar-18 03:30, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >>> Thanks for the help. Will work on that. >>> >>> Cliff Witherspoon >>> Red Arrow Entertainment >>> 864-613-4201 >>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Richard Elen wrote: >>>> >>>> If you can split the feed, eg with Audio Hijack, you could feed the audio into a streaming audio client, such as Nicecast (mp3 only, $, due to be discontinued), LadioCast (mp3/AAC, free, App Store) or BUTT (free) and send it to the server. All three of those apps support Icecast logins. >>>> >>>> --R >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 29-Mar-18 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >>>>> I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. >>>>> >>>>> Cliff Witherspoon >>>>> Red Arrow Entertainment >>>>> 864-613-4201 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Icecast mailing list >>>>> Icecast at xiph.org >>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Icecast mailing list >>>> Icecast at xiph.org >>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cliff at redarrowsc.com Fri Mar 30 11:03:23 2018 From: cliff at redarrowsc.com (Cliff Witherspoon) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 07:03:23 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Question In-Reply-To: <62e39c7b-e698-d78d-3372-23bedf335eec@brideswell.com> References: <2820ce98-7a46-8c85-8199-cd33cefa65b3@brideswell.com> <62e39c7b-e698-d78d-3372-23bedf335eec@brideswell.com> Message-ID: Thank you Richard. They do have me set up with a DJ account to I will put all of this together today and see what I can make work. Thanks to all. Cliff Witherspoon Red Arrow Entertainment 864-613-4201 > On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:04 AM, Richard Elen wrote: > > Hi, Cliff... > > The suggestions I've made assume that the station would allow you to drive their server for the duration of the program. This may not be the case. > > If so, then you may want to set up a streaming audio server yourself and supply its address to the station; they can then receive your feed and rebroadcast it via their normal output channels. However the downside of this is that the signal would be encoded, decoded and re-encoded by the time it was broadcast. The original solution I proposed had you driving the station's servers directly, which would be preferable - they should be able to set up a DJ account for you - this is especially easy if they have a system like Centova on their Icecast system. > > If you DO want to set up a special server for the feed yourself, you can of course run up your own Icecast server, or rent a stream from a provider (extremely easy). Alternatively, NiceCast allows you to create a local streaming server on your Mac and the station you're working with can tune in to that to receive your live audio. However NiceCast (from Rogue Amoeba) is no longer supported: you may have to ask them about it. > > There are also other ways of getting your live audio feed from your studio to the station. You could set up what is essentially a studio-transmitter link (STL), using broadcast hardware designed for the purpose. A good and relatively cheap (a few hundred $) example of gear for this is the DEVA Broadcast DB91-TX and DB91-RX which allow you to send a CD-quality uncompressed PCM stream from your location (using the TX unit) to the station (who would have the RX unit). The TX unit can also log into to an Icecast 2 (or deprecated Shoutcast 1) streaming audio server, so the TX unit is ANOTHER solution to driving the station's Icecast server directly, instead of the software solutions described earlier. We run the DB91-TX to feed from our playout system to our Icecast 2 KH servers and it works beautifully. > > http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-tx > > http://www.deva-ip-audio.com/products/db91-rx > > I hope this helps! > > --Richard E > > >> On 30-Mar-18 03:30, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >> Thanks for the help. Will work on that. >> >> Cliff Witherspoon >> Red Arrow Entertainment >> 864-613-4201 >> >>> On Mar 29, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Richard Elen wrote: >>> >>> If you can split the feed, eg with Audio Hijack, you could feed the audio into a streaming audio client, such as Nicecast (mp3 only, $, due to be discontinued), LadioCast (mp3/AAC, free, App Store) or BUTT (free) and send it to the server. All three of those apps support Icecast logins. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>>> On 29-Mar-18 21:51, Cliff Witherspoon wrote: >>>> I own a recording studio. We do a weekly live concert broadcast to Facebook using Wirecast software. There is an internet radio station that uses icecast that wants to carry the audio from my broadcast live. I have no idea how to get the audio to them. I use Mac computers. Can someone help me with that. >>>> >>>> Cliff Witherspoon >>>> Red Arrow Entertainment >>>> 864-613-4201 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Icecast mailing list >>>> Icecast at xiph.org >>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Icecast mailing list >>> Icecast at xiph.org >>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast