[Icecast] Icecast Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Hello to all (Can Kırca)
   2. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
   3. Re: Hello to all (Can Kırca)
   4. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
   5. Re: Hello to all (Roman)
   6. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:09:18 +0300
From: Can Kırca <cankirca at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
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	<CAMqPt1kRZRFtKh5AHpM8yXJ8TTfRYf474HpTYfkv9THpod4wtg at mail.gmail.com>
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Hello dear Marvin,

Do you have an other recommendation for my setup?
I will upload my mp3 lesson contents to the server, embed them to my moodle or an other audio player to stream to users.

Thanks in advance.

2017-03-19 23:06 GMT+03:00, Can Kırca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I have a static IP, there is no problem.
>
> But there is a stupid question: for example, if i upload 3 MP3 files 
> on my server, how can i use these files in a seperat embed code?
>
> In radio systems, we're using xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:portnumber, in my setup, 
> How can i use it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 2017-03-19 22:18 GMT+03:00, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com>:
>> Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com – just remember to port 
>> forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for 
>> icecast
>>
>> From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
>> To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
>> Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
>>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I 
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to 
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a 
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu 
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> --
> Can Kırca
>


--
Can Kırca


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:01:01 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
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On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can Kırca wrote:

>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.

This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
content this does not make it harder at all to download.

To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
so that the webserver will server them.

You can than "embed" them like so:

<audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
The audio element is not supported by your Browser
</audio>

Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.

>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?
>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:17:58 +0300
From: Can Kırca <cankirca at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID:
	<CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-QUpjg at mail.gmail.com>
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At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
streaming?

Thanks.

2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can Kırca wrote:
>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>
> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>
> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> so that the webserver will server them.
>
> You can than "embed" them like so:
>
> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> </audio>
>
> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>> audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


-- 
Can Kırca


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:22:11 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID: <01D7BBB5-F04D-444F-9DCE-708026EA0385 at gmail.com>
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On 19 Mar 2017, at 22:17, Can Kırca wrote:

> At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
> webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
> streaming?

Of course this depends on the implementation of the on-demand media server,
but in general there is no difference at all, other than for on-demand content
you know the length and for a live content you do not.

>
> Thanks.
>
> 2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can Kırca wrote:
>>
>>>   Hello to all,
>>>
>>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>>
>>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
>> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
>> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>>
>> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
>> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
>> so that the webserver will server them.
>>
>> You can than "embed" them like so:
>>
>> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
>> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
>> </audio>
>>
>> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>>> audio files?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>>> regards.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Can Kırca
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:13:54 +0200
From: Roman <romeo.r at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
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	<CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q at mail.gmail.com>
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2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can Kırca <cankirca at gmail.com>:

>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Hi,

Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
"downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
on that.

-- 
Best regards,
Roman.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:41:29 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
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On 20 Mar 2017, at 0:13, Roman wrote:

> 2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can Kırca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
>
>>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
> "downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
> playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
> on that.

I agree. Most time, the only thing this results in is frustrated users but not
preventing anyone that really wants to, from downloading or ripping something.

As can be seen with Blu-ray and the like.

>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Roman.
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