From benoit at saooti.com  Thu Mar 16 15:41:50 2017
From: benoit at saooti.com (Benoit Moisan)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:41:50 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast cluster
Message-ID: <001d01d29e6b$d4eb85e0$7ec291a0$@saooti.com>

Hi all,

 

I'm looking for some documentation about icecast clustering. Is this feature
exists ?

 

Under this research, i would like to build a cluster to put a lot of
streaming channels under a virtual network ip.

 

Thanks 

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From abitar.com at gmail.com  Thu Mar 16 22:08:53 2017
From: abitar.com at gmail.com (David Saunders)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:08:53 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] icecast cluster
In-Reply-To: <001d01d29e6b$d4eb85e0$7ec291a0$@saooti.com>
References: <001d01d29e6b$d4eb85e0$7ec291a0$@saooti.com>
Message-ID: <CAOjZz+mJ6JNmio_fW+eEaXk7AXLar0wvjPEsU1Nieo4KCNZYHA@mail.gmail.com>

THe feature itself really dose not exists as a whole, you can set up relays
to have a mount be hosted on more then one sever, these servers can be
anywhere. The servers in the network is not the issue in hosting, it the
bandwidth you have access too. The servers can handle a larger capacity
then most  bandwidth can handle.

  We have a fall back server we can turn on  when we get up to 75% our
bandwidth. This is handle by a simple php script that keeps track of number
of  users that will trigger the fallback bases on the bandwidth of all the
stream uses.  And it will route new connection to the offsite server to
offload some of the bandwidth to them. We don't like to do this because of
the over head in cost this causes.

Other this this we never seen a purpose to use more then 1 master server
and slaves on demand :)

It take planing and bandwidth management to keep  it all running ritght.
One rule is don't use more then you need.



On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Benoit Moisan <benoit at saooti.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I?m looking for some documentation about icecast clustering. Is this
> feature exists ?
>
>
>
> Under this research, i would like to build a cluster to put a lot of
> streaming channels under a virtual network ip.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
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From aham.brahmasmi at gmx.com  Thu Mar 16 22:50:07 2017
From: aham.brahmasmi at gmx.com (Aham Brahmasmi)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:50:07 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Fw: Request - Javascript player using Media Source
	Extensions
References: <trinity-e9aed430-6453-4378-82fc-2530902d3982-1478116588913@3capp-mailcom-bs04>
Message-ID: <trinity-30aad30c-147d-45e7-b196-7096b4901e57-1489704607583@3capp-mailcom-bs07>

Hi,

Could you folks suggest a Javascript player that uses Media Source Extensions to play Icecast streams on modern browsers?

Thanks,
ab


Sent:?Thursday, November 03, 2016 at 1:26 AM
From:?"Aham Brahmasmi" <aham.brahmasmi at gmx.com>
To:?icecast at xiph.org
Subject:?Request - Javascript player using Media Source Extensions
Hi,

I was wondering if there is a javascript player that uses Media Source Extensions to play Icecast streams on modern browsers.

Based on my limited research, the following players do not seem to support Icecast streams:
Aurora.js - Icecast does not support HEAD requests, which Aurora.js seems to require.
Shaka - Needs DASH manifests, cannot play off a simple URL. IANAL but MPEG LA seems to have issued a call for patents on DASH.

Please do not suggest Flash players.

Thanks,
ab


From greg at indexcom.com  Thu Mar 16 23:28:16 2017
From: greg at indexcom.com (Greg Ogonowski)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:28:16 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Fw: Request - Javascript player using Media
	Source	Extensions
In-Reply-To: <trinity-30aad30c-147d-45e7-b196-7096b4901e57-1489704607583@3capp-mailcom-bs07>
References: <trinity-e9aed430-6453-4378-82fc-2530902d3982-1478116588913@3capp-mailcom-bs04>
 <trinity-30aad30c-147d-45e7-b196-7096b4901e57-1489704607583@3capp-mailcom-bs07>
Message-ID: <22f401d29eac$fd9c05f0$f8d411d0$@indexcom.com>

Here you go:
https://github.com/jucrouzet/icecast.js
This is a WIP, but tested on the KH Build of IC2.
We have not tested this on the Xiph Build. I don't know if CORS Headers are enabled there.
Here it is running an HE-AAC stream:
https://db2.indexcom.com/playertest/icy/
There is no metadata yet, but that is coming...
This is sourced with a StreamS HiFi Live Encoder using the commercial Fraunhofer libs (the good stuff).
/greg.
StreamS

-----Original Message-----
From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Aham Brahmasmi
Sent: Thursday, 16 March, 2017 15:50
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: [Icecast] Fw: Request - Javascript player using Media Source Extensions

Hi,

Could you folks suggest a Javascript player that uses Media Source Extensions to play Icecast streams on modern browsers?

Thanks,
ab


Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 at 1:26 AM
From: "Aham Brahmasmi" <aham.brahmasmi at gmx.com>
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Request - Javascript player using Media Source Extensions Hi,

I was wondering if there is a javascript player that uses Media Source Extensions to play Icecast streams on modern browsers.

Based on my limited research, the following players do not seem to support Icecast streams:
Aurora.js - Icecast does not support HEAD requests, which Aurora.js seems to require.
Shaka - Needs DASH manifests, cannot play off a simple URL. IANAL but MPEG LA seems to have issued a call for patents on DASH.

Please do not suggest Flash players.

Thanks,
ab
_______________________________________________
Icecast mailing list
Icecast at xiph.org
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From cankirca at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 19:07:55 2017
From: cankirca at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Can_K=C4=B1rca?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:07:55 +0300
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>

  Hello to all,

My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
I have a small question about Icecast.

I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
prevent downloading.

Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
server, what can i do to get URL for my
audio files?

Thanks for your answers from now,
regards.


From awi3 at live.com  Sun Mar 19 19:18:01 2017
From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:18:01 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID: <VI1PR0401MB2511FE2E6F0BC437DD21423BEF3B0@VI1PR0401MB2511.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com ? just remember to port forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for icecast

From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all

  Hello to all,

My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
I have a small question about Icecast.

I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
prevent downloading.

Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
server, what can i do to get URL for my
audio files?

Thanks for your answers from now,
regards.
_______________________________________________
Icecast mailing list
Icecast at xiph.org
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From epirat07 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 20:05:05 2017
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:05:05 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A2015EF9-287F-41E0-915E-3550CCDE782F@gmail.com>

On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:

>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?

Icecast is not made to stream files, a normal webserver can do that just fine.
Icecast is made for live audio or video streaming, no on-demand streaming.

>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From cankirca at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 20:06:13 2017
From: cankirca at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Can_K=C4=B1rca?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:06:13 +0300
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0401MB2511FE2E6F0BC437DD21423BEF3B0@VI1PR0401MB2511.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <VI1PR0401MB2511FE2E6F0BC437DD21423BEF3B0@VI1PR0401MB2511.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqPt1nd5LMi4B=YarYc6AU11WS=w3ExdAozfWdG0=geSODPGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have a static IP, there is no problem.

But there is a stupid question: for example, if i upload 3 MP3 files
on my server, how can i use these files in a seperat embed code?

In radio systems, we're using xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:portnumber, in my setup,
How can i use it?

Thanks in advance.

2017-03-19 22:18 GMT+03:00, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com>:
> Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com ? just remember to port
> forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for icecast
>
> From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
> To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
>
>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?
>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


-- 
Can K?rca


From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 20:07:02 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:07:02 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CJHjh=wkTB6L-Wzogj6EqazprbZSsT+rBOLoReKNhRTiQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I am happy to help you if I can let me know

Scott Winterstein
+49 69 956 47177

On Mar 19, 2017 8:08 PM, "Can K?rca" <cankirca at gmail.com> wrote:

>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?
>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From cankirca at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 20:09:18 2017
From: cankirca at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Can_K=C4=B1rca?=)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:09:18 +0300
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1nd5LMi4B=YarYc6AU11WS=w3ExdAozfWdG0=geSODPGg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <VI1PR0401MB2511FE2E6F0BC437DD21423BEF3B0@VI1PR0401MB2511.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAMqPt1nd5LMi4B=YarYc6AU11WS=w3ExdAozfWdG0=geSODPGg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqPt1kRZRFtKh5AHpM8yXJ8TTfRYf474HpTYfkv9THpod4wtg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello dear Marvin,

Do you have an other recommendation for my setup?
I will upload my mp3 lesson contents to the server, embed them to my
moodle or an other audio player to stream to users.

Thanks in advance.

2017-03-19 23:06 GMT+03:00, Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I have a static IP, there is no problem.
>
> But there is a stupid question: for example, if i upload 3 MP3 files
> on my server, how can i use these files in a seperat embed code?
>
> In radio systems, we're using xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:portnumber, in my setup,
> How can i use it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 2017-03-19 22:18 GMT+03:00, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com>:
>> Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com ? just remember to port
>> forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for
>> icecast
>>
>> From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
>> To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
>> Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
>>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>> audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> --
> Can K?rca
>


-- 
Can K?rca


From epirat07 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 21:01:01 2017
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:01:01 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C@gmail.com>

On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:

>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.

This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
content this does not make it harder at all to download.

To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
so that the webserver will server them.

You can than "embed" them like so:

<audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
The audio element is not supported by your Browser
</audio>

Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.

>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?
>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From cankirca at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 21:17:58 2017
From: cankirca at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Can_K=C4=B1rca?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:17:58 +0300
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C@gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-QUpjg@mail.gmail.com>

At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
streaming?

Thanks.

2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>
> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>
> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> so that the webserver will server them.
>
> You can than "embed" them like so:
>
> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> </audio>
>
> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>> audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


-- 
Can K?rca


From epirat07 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 21:22:11 2017
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:22:11 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-QUpjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C@gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-QUpjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01D7BBB5-F04D-444F-9DCE-708026EA0385@gmail.com>

On 19 Mar 2017, at 22:17, Can K?rca wrote:

> At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
> webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
> streaming?

Of course this depends on the implementation of the on-demand media server,
but in general there is no difference at all, other than for on-demand content
you know the length and for a live content you do not.

>
> Thanks.
>
> 2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
>>
>>>   Hello to all,
>>>
>>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>>
>>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
>> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
>> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>>
>> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
>> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
>> so that the webserver will server them.
>>
>> You can than "embed" them like so:
>>
>> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
>> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
>> </audio>
>>
>> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>>> audio files?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>>> regards.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Can K?rca
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From romeo.r at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 23:13:54 2017
From: romeo.r at gmail.com (Roman)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:13:54 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q@mail.gmail.com>

2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:

>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Hi,

Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
"downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
on that.

-- 
Best regards,
Roman.
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From epirat07 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 23:41:29 2017
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:41:29 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
In-Reply-To: <CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqPt1kZD4-H7_kJWvjwhw+MTQHgUePZVYk1cVuKOuT=-RwSxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMqPt1m=+5DVc+sOdYBFKfzUtC5Q8fwQq6rk=EHLK2W+vEZ8yQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5447E3FF-C153-4405-B814-8E5A53213D3A@gmail.com>



On 20 Mar 2017, at 0:13, Roman wrote:

> 2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
>
>>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
> "downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
> playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
> on that.

I agree. Most time, the only thing this results in is frustrated users but not
preventing anyone that really wants to, from downloading or ripping something.

As can be seen with Blu-ray and the like.

>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Roman.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From contato at eduardocury.net  Sun Mar 19 23:52:44 2017
From: contato at eduardocury.net (Edu Cury)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:52:44 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
Message-ID: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately the
stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With the
firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
<http://www.audiogrooves.net>

To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any android
device.

http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg

The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.

Any ideas to fix this?

Thanks
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From support at psrfm.org.au  Mon Mar 20 00:33:16 2017
From: support at psrfm.org.au (PSRFM Support)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:33:16 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12812.1489966898.737.icecast@xiph.org>
References: <mailman.12812.1489966898.737.icecast@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <000401d2a111$91cb9540$b562bfc0$@psrfm.org.au>

Can you please unsubscribe me from your emails.

John Dohnt

support at psrfm.org.au


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Hello to all (Can K?rca)
   2. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
   3. Re: Hello to all (Can K?rca)
   4. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
   5. Re: Hello to all (Roman)
   6. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:09:18 +0300
From: Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID:
	<CAMqPt1kRZRFtKh5AHpM8yXJ8TTfRYf474HpTYfkv9THpod4wtg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello dear Marvin,

Do you have an other recommendation for my setup?
I will upload my mp3 lesson contents to the server, embed them to my moodle or an other audio player to stream to users.

Thanks in advance.

2017-03-19 23:06 GMT+03:00, Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I have a static IP, there is no problem.
>
> But there is a stupid question: for example, if i upload 3 MP3 files 
> on my server, how can i use these files in a seperat embed code?
>
> In radio systems, we're using xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:portnumber, in my setup, 
> How can i use it?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 2017-03-19 22:18 GMT+03:00, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com>:
>> Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com ? just remember to port 
>> forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for 
>> icecast
>>
>> From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
>> To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
>> Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
>>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I 
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to 
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a 
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu 
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> --
> Can K?rca
>


--
Can K?rca


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:01:01 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID: <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:

>   Hello to all,
>
> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> I have a small question about Icecast.
>
> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.

This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
content this does not make it harder at all to download.

To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
so that the webserver will server them.

You can than "embed" them like so:

<audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
The audio element is not supported by your Browser
</audio>

Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.

>
> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> audio files?
>
> Thanks for your answers from now,
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:17:58 +0300
From: Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID:
	<CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-QUpjg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
streaming?

Thanks.

2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
>
>>   Hello to all,
>>
>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>
>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>
> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>
> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> so that the webserver will server them.
>
> You can than "embed" them like so:
>
> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> </audio>
>
> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>
>>
>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>> audio files?
>>
>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>> regards.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


-- 
Can K?rca


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:22:11 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID: <01D7BBB5-F04D-444F-9DCE-708026EA0385 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 19 Mar 2017, at 22:17, Can K?rca wrote:

> At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
> webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
> streaming?

Of course this depends on the implementation of the on-demand media server,
but in general there is no difference at all, other than for on-demand content
you know the length and for a live content you do not.

>
> Thanks.
>
> 2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
>>
>>>   Hello to all,
>>>
>>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
>>> I have a small question about Icecast.
>>>
>>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
>>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
>> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
>> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>>
>> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
>> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
>> so that the webserver will server them.
>>
>> You can than "embed" them like so:
>>
>> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
>> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
>> </audio>
>>
>> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
>>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
>>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
>>> audio files?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers from now,
>>> regards.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Can K?rca
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:13:54 +0200
From: Roman <romeo.r at gmail.com>
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID:
	<CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:

>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> prevent downloading.
>
> Hi,

Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
"downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
on that.

-- 
Best regards,
Roman.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:41:29 +0100
From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
Message-ID: <5447E3FF-C153-4405-B814-8E5A53213D3A at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8



On 20 Mar 2017, at 0:13, Roman wrote:

> 2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
>
>>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
>> prevent downloading.
>>
>> Hi,
>
> Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
> "downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
> playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
> on that.

I agree. Most time, the only thing this results in is frustrated users but not
preventing anyone that really wants to, from downloading or ripping something.

As can be seen with Blu-ray and the like.

>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Roman.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 02:36:20 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:36:20 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <000401d2a111$91cb9540$b562bfc0$@psrfm.org.au>
References: <mailman.12812.1489966898.737.icecast@xiph.org>
 <000401d2a111$91cb9540$b562bfc0$@psrfm.org.au>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CKs5J2t2pE9im2vhUynmL0rpb5pZgZQnON+M-BU-e5eCw@mail.gmail.com>

You have to do it we cannot unsubscribe you. You are writing to a list
server forum.

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 2:25 AM, "PSRFM Support" <support at psrfm.org.au> wrote:

> Can you please unsubscribe me from your emails.
>
> John Dohnt
>
> support at psrfm.org.au
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> icecast-request at xiph.org
> Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 10:42 AM
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Icecast Digest, Vol 153, Issue 3
>
> Send Icecast mailing list submissions to
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> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Hello to all (Can K?rca)
>    2. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
>    3. Re: Hello to all (Can K?rca)
>    4. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
>    5. Re: Hello to all (Roman)
>    6. Re: Hello to all (Marvin Scholz)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:09:18 +0300
> From: Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
> Message-ID:
>         <CAMqPt1kRZRFtKh5AHpM8yXJ8TTfRYf474HpTYfkv9THpod4wtg at mail.
> gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hello dear Marvin,
>
> Do you have an other recommendation for my setup?
> I will upload my mp3 lesson contents to the server, embed them to my
> moodle or an other audio player to stream to users.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 2017-03-19 23:06 GMT+03:00, Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a static IP, there is no problem.
> >
> > But there is a stupid question: for example, if i upload 3 MP3 files
> > on my server, how can i use these files in a seperat embed code?
> >
> > In radio systems, we're using xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:portnumber, in my setup,
> > How can i use it?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > 2017-03-19 22:18 GMT+03:00, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com>:
> >> Try a free or paid DDNS service like noip.com ? just remember to port
> >> forward to your server address on the lan with the port you use for
> >> icecast
> >>
> >> From: Can Kirca<mailto:cankirca at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:08 PM
> >> To: icecast at xiph.org<mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
> >> Subject: [Icecast] Hello to all
> >>
> >>   Hello to all,
> >>
> >> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> >> I have a small question about Icecast.
> >>
> >> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> >> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> >> prevent downloading.
> >>
> >> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> >> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> >> server, what can i do to get URL for my audio files?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your answers from now,
> >> regards.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Can K?rca
> >
>
>
> --
> Can K?rca
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:01:01 +0100
> From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
> To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
> Message-ID: <DB0420C9-5F5E-4AFE-B079-1E0976BB236C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
>
> >   Hello to all,
> >
> > My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> > I have a small question about Icecast.
> >
> > I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> > installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> > prevent downloading.
>
> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
>
> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> so that the webserver will server them.
>
> You can than "embed" them like so:
>
> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> </audio>
>
> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
>
> >
> > Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> > radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> > server, what can i do to get URL for my
> > audio files?
> >
> > Thanks for your answers from now,
> > regards.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:17:58 +0300
> From: Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
> Message-ID:
>         <CAMqPt1=yyRdih54s+4O6bSGB3ytBSASS4Z=SS9UKDcsZ-
> QUpjg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
> webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
> streaming?
>
> Thanks.
>
> 2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
> > On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
> >
> >>   Hello to all,
> >>
> >> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> >> I have a small question about Icecast.
> >>
> >> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> >> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> >> prevent downloading.
> >
> > This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> > Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> > content this does not make it harder at all to download.
> >
> > To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> > such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> > so that the webserver will server them.
> >
> > You can than "embed" them like so:
> >
> > <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> > The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> > </audio>
> >
> > Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
> >
> >>
> >> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> >> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> >> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> >> audio files?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your answers from now,
> >> regards.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >
>
>
> --
> Can K?rca
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:22:11 +0100
> From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
> To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
> Message-ID: <01D7BBB5-F04D-444F-9DCE-708026EA0385 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On 19 Mar 2017, at 22:17, Can K?rca wrote:
>
> > At last thing, what is the diffrents between standard streaming with
> > webserver and an-demand-streaming with a media server and also icecast
> > streaming?
>
> Of course this depends on the implementation of the on-demand media server,
> but in general there is no difference at all, other than for on-demand
> content
> you know the length and for a live content you do not.
>
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 2017-03-20 0:01 GMT+03:00, Marvin Scholz <epirat07 at gmail.com>:
> >> On 19 Mar 2017, at 20:07, Can K?rca wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello to all,
> >>>
> >>> My name's Can, I'm a server administrator in a middle-size company.
> >>> I have a small question about Icecast.
> >>>
> >>> I'm about to create an online learning platform for blind users. I
> >>> installed Moodle, would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> >>> prevent downloading.
> >>
> >> This will not prevent downloading. There is no way to do that easily.
> >> Streaming is not the same as copy protection. Just because you stream
> >> content this does not make it harder at all to download.
> >>
> >> To embed files you do not need Icecast. Just use a normal web server
> >> such as apache or nginx and put the files in the webroot somewhere
> >> so that the webserver will server them.
> >>
> >> You can than "embed" them like so:
> >>
> >> <audio src="https://example.org/patch/to/file.ogg" controls="controls">
> >> The audio element is not supported by your Browser
> >> </audio>
> >>
> >> Even if you would live-stream them, downloading would be just as easy.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to use Icecast as an audio streamer? I used it for a
> >>> radio before, but after installation Icecast to my CentOS or Ubuntu
> >>> server, what can i do to get URL for my
> >>> audio files?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your answers from now,
> >>> regards.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Icecast mailing list
> >>> Icecast at xiph.org
> >>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Can K?rca
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:13:54 +0200
> From: Roman <romeo.r at gmail.com>
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
> Message-ID:
>         <CAFR=TBqzd2yHf95pwENkEYNxwBdLSmk4eP_cT37oqM7SG+j2_Q at mail.
> gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> 2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
>
> >  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> > prevent downloading.
> >
> > Hi,
>
> Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
> "downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
> playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
> on that.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Roman.
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> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:41:29 +0100
> From: "Marvin Scholz" <epirat07 at gmail.com>
> To: "Icecast streaming server user discussions" <icecast at xiph.org>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Hello to all
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>
>
> On 20 Mar 2017, at 0:13, Roman wrote:
>
> > 2017-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Can K?rca <cankirca at gmail.com>:
> >
> >>  would like to embed audio contents into lessons to
> >> prevent downloading.
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >
> > Just wanted to note, that you will never ever prevent something from
> > "downloading". At the hardiest end One can just record something, that is
> > playing with built in sound recorder in Windows. So don't waste your time
> > on that.
>
> I agree. Most time, the only thing this results in is frustrated users but
> not
> preventing anyone that really wants to, from downloading or ripping
> something.
>
> As can be seen with Blu-ray and the like.
>
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Roman.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 02:38:11 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:38:11 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CL9SVe1yOMWy2nZ6M4TrVJo9ztuZfRB4dzd+Qe_LH9cBA@mail.gmail.com>

I am using Android 5.1 and using Galaxy Note and it fails to even play for
me.

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:

> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>
> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any android
> device.
>
> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>
> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>
> Any ideas to fix this?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From contato at eduardocury.net  Mon Mar 20 02:52:09 2017
From: contato at eduardocury.net (Edu Cury)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:52:09 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CA+3r0CL9SVe1yOMWy2nZ6M4TrVJo9ztuZfRB4dzd+Qe_LH9cBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0CL9SVe1yOMWy2nZ6M4TrVJo9ztuZfRB4dzd+Qe_LH9cBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHA-0USTVRP3Fw1bHATD6Pd7j7mzSgb_=zhu4tKzSO4-5WOy4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Scott. Could you try again please?

Em 19 de mar de 2017 11:38 PM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> I am using Android 5.1 and using Galaxy Note and it fails to even play for
> me.
>
> Scott Winterstein
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
>> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
>> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
>> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>>
>> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any android
>> device.
>>
>> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>>
>> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>>
>> Any ideas to fix this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 02:58:34 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:58:34 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CAHA-0USTVRP3Fw1bHATD6Pd7j7mzSgb_=zhu4tKzSO4-5WOy4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0CL9SVe1yOMWy2nZ6M4TrVJo9ztuZfRB4dzd+Qe_LH9cBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHA-0USTVRP3Fw1bHATD6Pd7j7mzSgb_=zhu4tKzSO4-5WOy4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CJRft-nd2_J5urx5YmRDVn8=B=b+_MD+j7Zu3F2enuBvA@mail.gmail.com>

Been listening for 7 min with no drop.. very good power and sound... so may
be user side error...

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 3:52 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:

> Hello Scott. Could you try again please?
>
> Em 19 de mar de 2017 11:38 PM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> I am using Android 5.1 and using Galaxy Note and it fails to even play
>> for me.
>>
>> Scott Winterstein
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
>>> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
>>> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
>>> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>>>
>>> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any
>>> android device.
>>>
>>> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>>>
>>> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>>>
>>> Any ideas to fix this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>>
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 03:10:03 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:10:03 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0C+0WBbU6vD6TmzuUOYiK51PdeTwtd1BPhVV3_0KL2yCnA@mail.gmail.com>

I also opened it in several other devices and browserz just now and it
worked in all of them . It may be user side problems and I would tell you
to ignor any single reported error... make note of it of course but until
several report the same error point the user to a support page to check to
make certain that they are updated and able to play it.. otherwise you are
chasing rabbits that do not exist.

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:

> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>
> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any android
> device.
>
> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>
> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>
> Any ideas to fix this?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
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From contato at eduardocury.net  Mon Mar 20 03:14:52 2017
From: contato at eduardocury.net (Edu Cury)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:14:52 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CA+3r0C+0WBbU6vD6TmzuUOYiK51PdeTwtd1BPhVV3_0KL2yCnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0C+0WBbU6vD6TmzuUOYiK51PdeTwtd1BPhVV3_0KL2yCnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHA-0UTnEft22rDT66buhz21ftAtBJ5DHHugNvcfnLEgLD2RWw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Scott. I will try to test in more devices. This errors is
ocurring with my moto g3 android 6.0 and also happened with another device
with same especifications. Maybe its a moto g3 issue.

The mp3 and he-aac works fine with no problem.

Thank you



Em 20 de mar de 2017 12:10 AM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> I also opened it in several other devices and browserz just now and it
> worked in all of them . It may be user side problems and I would tell you
> to ignor any single reported error... make note of it of course but until
> several report the same error point the user to a support page to check to
> make certain that they are updated and able to play it.. otherwise you are
> chasing rabbits that do not exist.
>
> Scott Winterstein
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
>> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
>> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
>> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>>
>> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any android
>> device.
>>
>> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>>
>> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>>
>> Any ideas to fix this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 10:59:54 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:59:54 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CAHA-0UTnEft22rDT66buhz21ftAtBJ5DHHugNvcfnLEgLD2RWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0C+0WBbU6vD6TmzuUOYiK51PdeTwtd1BPhVV3_0KL2yCnA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHA-0UTnEft22rDT66buhz21ftAtBJ5DHHugNvcfnLEgLD2RWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CKY54Wr6Coqx=TUFCDQg9r8qvNJcjc7zxu_K03YQuBzfA@mail.gmail.com>

No problem hope it helps

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 4:14 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:

> Thank you Scott. I will try to test in more devices. This errors is
> ocurring with my moto g3 android 6.0 and also happened with another device
> with same especifications. Maybe its a moto g3 issue.
>
> The mp3 and he-aac works fine with no problem.
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Em 20 de mar de 2017 12:10 AM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> I also opened it in several other devices and browserz just now and it
>> worked in all of them . It may be user side problems and I would tell you
>> to ignor any single reported error... make note of it of course but until
>> several report the same error point the user to a support page to check to
>> make certain that they are updated and able to play it.. otherwise you are
>> chasing rabbits that do not exist.
>>
>> Scott Winterstein
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
>>> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
>>> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
>>> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>>>
>>> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any
>>> android device.
>>>
>>> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>>>
>>> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>>>
>>> Any ideas to fix this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 11:02:36 2017
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (0turn1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:02:36 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ogg stream stops on Chrome for Android
In-Reply-To: <CA+3r0CKY54Wr6Coqx=TUFCDQg9r8qvNJcjc7zxu_K03YQuBzfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHA-0UTyP7YHyjdUdfdkH-62LFBmMjHmnqsRgh7sdinnAoxe3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0C+0WBbU6vD6TmzuUOYiK51PdeTwtd1BPhVV3_0KL2yCnA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHA-0UTnEft22rDT66buhz21ftAtBJ5DHHugNvcfnLEgLD2RWw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+3r0CKY54Wr6Coqx=TUFCDQg9r8qvNJcjc7zxu_K03YQuBzfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CKCwkHhgmaf=i2Bbcruq5c41A8r_p-48MKHbXSzE4M0dg@mail.gmail.com>

One question do you use VLC as your media player? If not try installing it
and see if it still fails... it also may be tied to tje media player
crashing while playing.

Scott Winterstein

On Mar 20, 2017 11:59 AM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No problem hope it helps
>
> Scott Winterstein
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 4:14 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Scott. I will try to test in more devices. This errors is
>> ocurring with my moto g3 android 6.0 and also happened with another device
>> with same especifications. Maybe its a moto g3 issue.
>>
>> The mp3 and he-aac works fine with no problem.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Em 20 de mar de 2017 12:10 AM, "0turn1 at gmail.com" <0turn1 at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> I also opened it in several other devices and browserz just now and it
>>> worked in all of them . It may be user side problems and I would tell you
>>> to ignor any single reported error... make note of it of course but until
>>> several report the same error point the user to a support page to check to
>>> make certain that they are updated and able to play it.. otherwise you are
>>> chasing rabbits that do not exist.
>>>
>>> Scott Winterstein
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 1:00 AM, "Edu Cury" <contato at eduardocury.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, im a big fan of Ogg stream with my icecast server. Unfortunately
>>>> the stream stops after few minutes using Chrome on Android devices. With
>>>> the firefox browser it works fine, but stops with chrome.
>>>> <http://www.audiogrooves.net>
>>>>
>>>> To reproduce the problem please open this link with chrome on any
>>>> android device.
>>>>
>>>> http://soul.audiogrooves.net/soul.ogg
>>>>
>>>> The stream starts ok but will stop after few minutes or seconds.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>>
>>>
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From benoit at saooti.com  Mon Mar 20 16:47:57 2017
From: benoit at saooti.com (Benoit Moisan)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:47:57 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast cluster
In-Reply-To: <CAOjZz+mJ6JNmio_fW+eEaXk7AXLar0wvjPEsU1Nieo4KCNZYHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001d01d29e6b$d4eb85e0$7ec291a0$@saooti.com>
 <CAOjZz+mJ6JNmio_fW+eEaXk7AXLar0wvjPEsU1Nieo4KCNZYHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00dd01d2a199$ba80ff10$2f82fd30$@saooti.com>

Thanks for your response.

 

De : Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] De la part de David Saunders
Envoy? : jeudi 16 mars 2017 23:09
? : Icecast streaming server user discussions
Objet : Re: [Icecast] icecast cluster

 

THe feature itself really dose not exists as a whole, you can set up relays to have a mount be hosted on more then one sever, these servers can be anywhere. The servers in the network is not the issue in hosting, it the bandwidth you have access too. The servers can handle a larger capacity then most  bandwidth can handle.

 

  We have a fall back server we can turn on  when we get up to 75% our bandwidth. This is handle by a simple php script that keeps track of number of  users that will trigger the fallback bases on the bandwidth of all the stream uses.  And it will route new connection to the offsite server to offload some of the bandwidth to them. We don't like to do this because of the over head in cost this causes.   

 

Other this this we never seen a purpose to use more then 1 master server and slaves on demand :) 

 

It take planing and bandwidth management to keep  it all running ritght. One rule is don't use more then you need. 

 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Benoit Moisan <benoit at saooti.com> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I?m looking for some documentation about icecast clustering. Is this feature exists ?

 

Under this research, i would like to build a cluster to put a lot of streaming channels under a virtual network ip.

 

Thanks 


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