From purchasing.05 at multiparadigm.com Thu Jun 1 16:23:51 2017 From: purchasing.05 at multiparadigm.com (MultiParadigm Corp.) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:23:51 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] =?utf-8?q?=5FStreaming=5F_AAC_to_HTML5_player?= Message-ID: <20170601092351.0e377ce7397666338d3aeed6efde40f2.a157d67c0e.wbe@email12.godaddy.com> We've been using Icecast KH for years now with great success. Thanks again Karl H! It's past time to ditch Flash! I'm probably a bit out of date on this issue. The last time I checked, no browser was able to directly play an AAC / MP4 / M4A stream from Icecast. They can play AAC _files_ but not _streams_. I see that there are now alternatives beyond Wowza and Red5. But my question is: is anything happening with Icecast to address this? Thanks! From thatjackelliott at kpov.org Thu Jun 1 17:38:47 2017 From: thatjackelliott at kpov.org (Jack Elliott) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 10:38:47 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] _Streaming_ AAC to HTML5 player In-Reply-To: <20170601092351.0e377ce7397666338d3aeed6efde40f2.a157d67c0e.wbe@email12.godaddy.com> References: <20170601092351.0e377ce7397666338d3aeed6efde40f2.a157d67c0e.wbe@email12.godaddy.com> Message-ID: <61f452d1-c29f-1041-5a0e-546c873a1d09@kpov.org> I determined that iTunes running on a Mac, can play aac (not m4a) streams, if the source-client quits and Icecast starts playing my .aac fallback file, iTunes quits and annoyingly moves to whatever file it considers to be next in its playlist. This with the fallback file encoded at the same bitrate and samplerate. Same thing happens if the fallback file is "containerized" as an m4a. It's unclear whether Icecast is glitching when it mounts the fallback file, or if iTunes is just a pig. Wait, iTunes is a pig. I despise iTunes for so many reasons. It also won't play ogg. -- That Jack Elliott (541) 848 7021 KPOV 88.9 FM High Desert Community radio Producer, The Wednesday Point Host, The Sunday Classics On 6/1/2017 9:23 AM, MultiParadigm Corp. wrote: > We've been using Icecast KH for years now with great success. Thanks > again Karl H! > > It's past time to ditch Flash! > > I'm probably a bit out of date on this issue. The last time I checked, > no browser was able to directly play an AAC / MP4 / M4A stream from > Icecast. They can play AAC _files_ but not _streams_. > > I see that there are now alternatives beyond Wowza and Red5. > > But my question is: is anything happening with Icecast to address this? > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From nitin.workz at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 13:36:24 2017 From: nitin.workz at gmail.com (Nitin N) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 19:06:24 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] Newbie question VoD streaming with Icecast Message-ID: Dear All, I am curious to know if IceCast can be used for audio/video on-demand streaming over http/https. My basic understanding is that IceCast runs in broadcast mode. As such, it may not be ideal for my particular use case, wherein, I wish to stream media files on demand to multiple browser based clients who may request the same media file at different times. Is it possible at all then to use IceCast as a VoD streaming server by itself or in combination with an HTTP server like nginx or apache? Kindly share your thoughts/experiences. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Nitin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From epirat07 at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 15:13:35 2017 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:13:35 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Newbie question VoD streaming with Icecast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <443FDA8C-E3AE-4AF9-ACD8-01BEB61AA084@gmail.com> On 2 Jun 2017, at 15:36, Nitin N wrote: > Dear All, > > I am curious to know if IceCast can be used for audio/video on-demand > streaming over http/https. > > My basic understanding is that IceCast runs in broadcast mode. As such, it > may not be ideal for my particular use case, wherein, I wish to stream > media files on demand to multiple browser based clients who may request the > same media file at different times. > > Is it possible at all then to use IceCast as a VoD streaming server by > itself or in combination with an HTTP server like nginx or apache? No > > Kindly share your thoughts/experiences. > > Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Nitin > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From yahav.shasha at gmail.com Fri Jun 2 21:41:15 2017 From: yahav.shasha at gmail.com (Yahav Shasha) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 21:41:15 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Newbie question VoD streaming with Icecast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Look for nginx-rtmp Should do the job perfectly.. ?????? ??? ??, 2 ????? 2017 ?-16:37 ??? Nitin N : > Dear All, > > I am curious to know if IceCast can be used for audio/video on-demand > streaming over http/https. > > My basic understanding is that IceCast runs in broadcast mode. As such, it > may not be ideal for my particular use case, wherein, I wish to stream > media files on demand to multiple browser based clients who may request the > same media file at different times. > > Is it possible at all then to use IceCast as a VoD streaming server by > itself or in combination with an HTTP server like nginx or apache? > > Kindly share your thoughts/experiences. > > Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Nitin > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- Yahav Shasha, Web Developer +972-(0)549214421 http://www.linkedin.com/in/yahavs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nitin.workz at gmail.com Sat Jun 3 11:58:28 2017 From: nitin.workz at gmail.com (Nitin N) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 17:28:28 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] Newbie question VoD streaming with Icecast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Marvin/Yahav, Thank you for your clarification/advice. Yahav, unfortunately, nginx+rtmp doesn't seem to support webm streaming as yet. So, I was looking for alternatives. Flumotion supports webm, but the open source version doesn't seem to be too active for some years now. Guess, I might have to write something myself now... :) Have a great weekend! Nitin On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Yahav Shasha wrote: > Look for nginx-rtmp > Should do the job perfectly.. > > ?????? ??? ??, 2 ????? 2017 ?-16:37 ??? Nitin N : > >> Dear All, >> >> I am curious to know if IceCast can be used for audio/video on-demand >> streaming over http/https. >> >> My basic understanding is that IceCast runs in broadcast mode. As such, >> it may not be ideal for my particular use case, wherein, I wish to stream >> media files on demand to multiple browser based clients who may request the >> same media file at different times. >> >> Is it possible at all then to use IceCast as a VoD streaming server by >> itself or in combination with an HTTP server like nginx or apache? >> >> Kindly share your thoughts/experiences. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Nitin >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > -- > Yahav Shasha, > Web Developer > +972-(0)549214421 > http://www.linkedin.com/in/yahavs > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Yahav Shasha Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 11:35 p.m. To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support Hey, Is there any free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ross at stationplaylist.com Tue Jun 6 14:02:26 2017 From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 02:02:26 +1200 Subject: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support In-Reply-To: References: <00a901d2dec6$02674960$0735dc20$@com> Message-ID: <002701d2decd$88c80ec0$9a582c40$@com> AAC incorporates all the AAC family including HE-AAC, LC-AAC, etc. I?m fairly sure LibFAAC supports HE-AAC. Not sure about v2 though. From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Yahav Shasha Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017 1:19 a.m. To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support Thank though AAC isn't HE-AACv2 On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ross Levis wrote: http://www.altacast.com/index.php/downloads You need to download the AAC encoder DLL separately. From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Yahav Shasha Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 11:35 p.m. To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support Hey, Is there any free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support? _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -- Yahav Shasha, Web Developer +972-(0)549214421 http://www.linkedin.com/in/yahavs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From purchasing.05 at multiparadigm.com Tue Jun 6 16:08:55 2017 From: purchasing.05 at multiparadigm.com (MultiParadigm Corp.) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 09:08:55 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support Message-ID: <20170606090855.0e377ce7397666338d3aeed6efde40f2.575fc9b612.wbe@email12.godaddy.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Tue Jun 6 18:04:06 2017 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:04:06 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> Message-ID: <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Good evening, On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album along with > the song title and artist. > > I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is taking > place. > > Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. > > My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? There is none: IceS2 sends *all* metadata that is in the file. You can check the metadata of your input files e.g. with ogginfo to see if there is a AMBUM tag included. If you use IceS0: don't. It's deprecated for more than a decade. There are other source clients that do similar things. e.g. ezstream. With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephon: +49.3535 490 17 92 L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Yahav Shasha Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 11:35 p.m. To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [Icecast] free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support Hey, Is there any free Icecast windows source software with HE-AAC(/v2) support? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d at digitaldarragh.com Wed Jun 7 09:48:05 2017 From: d at digitaldarragh.com (=?utf-8?B?RGFycmFnaCDDkyBIw6lpbGlnaA==?=) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 09:48:05 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Message-ID: Please correct me if I'm wrong but the album title isn't exposed by the status-json file. I'd really like to be able to expose this as well. I'm using EZStream but I think the configuration / exposure needs to be configured on the Icecast2 side. Regards Darragh ? H?iligh Websites: Personal: www.digitaldarragh.com Professional: www.computersupportservices.ie Music: www.ceol.fm -----Original Message----- From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Philipp Schafft Sent: Tuesday 6 June 2017 19:04 To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] title streaming with ices Good evening, On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album > along with the song title and artist. > > I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is > taking place. > > Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. > > My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? There is none: IceS2 sends *all* metadata that is in the file. You can check the metadata of your input files e.g. with ogginfo to see if there is a AMBUM tag included. If you use IceS0: don't. It's deprecated for more than a decade. There are other source clients that do similar things. e.g. ezstream. With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephon: +49.3535 490 17 92 L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 From epirat07 at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 13:24:27 2017 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 15:24:27 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Message-ID: On 7 Jun 2017, at 11:48, Darragh ? H?iligh wrote: > Please correct me if I'm wrong but the album title isn't exposed by > the status-json file. > I'd really like to be able to expose this as well. I'm using EZStream > but I think the configuration / exposure needs to be configured on the > Icecast2 side. > For MP3/AAC there is not such thing. The only metadata ICY supports is a single Title string, often this contains something like "Artist - Title" though. > > Regards > > > Darragh ? H?iligh > Websites: > Personal: www.digitaldarragh.com > Professional: www.computersupportservices.ie > Music: www.ceol.fm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Philipp > Schafft > Sent: Tuesday 6 June 2017 19:04 > To: Icecast streaming server user discussions > Subject: Re: [Icecast] title streaming with ices > > Good evening, > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: >> Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that >> streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album >> along with the song title and artist. >> >> I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is >> taking place. >> >> Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. >> >> My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? > > There is none: > IceS2 sends *all* metadata that is in the file. You can check the > metadata of your input files e.g. with ogginfo to see if there is a > AMBUM tag included. > If you use IceS0: don't. It's deprecated for more than a decade. There > are other source clients that do similar things. e.g. ezstream. > > With best regards, > > -- > Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) > Telephon: +49.3535 490 17 92 > > L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: > Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB > 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: > Germany DE305133015 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From relen at brideswell.com Wed Jun 7 14:54:37 2017 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard G Elen) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 15:54:37 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Sending artist - title - album metadata Message-ID: <3f2df9e1-aed8-38a9-220c-2b0eb12fb485@brideswell.com> Another correspondent here has pointed out that: > Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > streaming internet stations in the US must stream the album [name] > along with the song title and artist. We are also in this particular boat. We are using Centova Cast which uses Liquidsoap as its AutoDJ and Centova say that if the album tag is stored in the file then it will be sent. We know it's there because it is displayed by Centova's widgets. However it doesn't seem to be sent with the stream. We have an Artist (aka Creator) and a Title field in the XSPF but the Album name is not included in either, or in its own tag. There is no Album field either. Can there be? If so, how? When we are running a remote live stream, we come in via the Shoutcast V1 method, which takes over the /autodj mount point. We send "Artist - Title - Album" via the http GET method and this all appears in the Title field in the XSPF (it's the same if we come in via a conventional Icecast login to the /live mount point). Here the Title tag contains "Artist - Title - Album" This displays on a player, typically (eg WinAmp), as Title: Title - Album Artist: Artist There is no "album" field as such. We also notice, looking at the xspf file, that the "creator" tag is empty, while with the autodj it contains the artist. The spec from StreamLicensing is "Your stream meta-data needs to include artist - title - album info (album info if available)." and "Your encoder should be transmitting the required Meta Fields that are Artist, Title and Album. Most automation systems do this by default but you may need to check the users guide for your system to make sure it does and if not you will have to change it to send the ALBUM tag." Firstly, we would like to get an Album field transmitted when the AutoDJ is playing. I appreciate that this may be a LiquidSoap issue but I would appreciate any guidance that readers here may be able to offer. Secondly, when we are driving the server from a remote live stream, we might be of the opinion that the Title tag includes all three elements required by StreamLicensing. However it is evident that the information is displayed in a completely different way in the two cases and this seems unnecessary. How can we rationalise the way in which the three tags are indicated, explicitly defining the Album field, and have it presented in/the same way/ in both live and autodj cases? Version: Icecast 2.4.0-kh4 Many thanks in advance for any advice. I have not included any XML snippets here in case the forum software dislikes them but I can if it would help. --Richard Elen Radio Riel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From digi at os2.snc.ru Wed Jun 7 22:45:59 2017 From: digi at os2.snc.ru (Andrey Vasilkin) Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 10:45:59 +1200 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Message-ID: <59388227.5080904@os2.snc.ru> On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > >Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > >streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album along with > >the song title and artist. > > > >I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is taking > >place. > > > >Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. > > > >My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? Ices-ne (a new ices for OS/2 / eComStation / ArcaOS and Windows) sends metadata: Artist - Title - Album. and it supports national symbols in tags. http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=ices-ne&pushbutton=Search ftp://idenis.snc.ru/users/GreenPoison/ices-ne-20170608.zip From Carlos.Camara at Staples.com Fri Jun 9 13:50:48 2017 From: Carlos.Camara at Staples.com (Camara, Carlos) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 13:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: <59388227.5080904@os2.snc.ru> References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <59388227.5080904@os2.snc.ru> Message-ID: I have been using ices2 for a few years to send several streams to an Icecast 2.4.1 server (both on Linux machines). All of the streams use a playlist. All of my streams contain Artist, Title, Album, Date/Year, and Track number when they arrive at the player as long as the file being streamed contains the information. I have checked all of my streams with Win amp (Windows), Audacious (Windows, Linux), VLC (Linux), and XiiaLive(Android) and 'Artist', 'Title', and 'Album' are always displayed in the player. I suspect that something else is the issue. Carlos Camara Data Solutions & Advisory -----Original Message----- From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Andrey Vasilkin Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 6:46 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] title streaming with ices On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > >Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > >streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album > >along with the song title and artist. > > > >I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is > >taking place. > > > >Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. > > > >My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? Ices-ne (a new ices for OS/2 / eComStation / ArcaOS and Windows) sends metadata: Artist - Title - Album. and it supports national symbols in tags. http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=ices-ne&pushbutton=Search ftp://idenis.snc.ru/users/GreenPoison/ices-ne-20170608.zip _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From larry at acbradio.org Fri Jun 9 14:47:51 2017 From: larry at acbradio.org (Larry Turnbull) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 14:47:51 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <59388227.5080904@os2.snc.ru> Message-ID: <034d01d2e12f$5cee0160$16ca0420$@acbradio.org> Unfortunately I am still using ices0 because our streams are mp3 streams. I looked at switching to ogg but many of our listeners have specialized players in devices such as Braille notetakers and other accessible devices that don't work with ogg streams. This station has 7 streams and runs on a linux server. Also to my knowledge Stream Licensing doesn't pick up ogg streams very well either. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Camara, Carlos Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:51 AM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] title streaming with ices I have been using ices2 for a few years to send several streams to an Icecast 2.4.1 server (both on Linux machines). All of the streams use a playlist. All of my streams contain Artist, Title, Album, Date/Year, and Track number when they arrive at the player as long as the file being streamed contains the information. I have checked all of my streams with Win amp (Windows), Audacious (Windows, Linux), VLC (Linux), and XiiaLive(Android) and 'Artist', 'Title', and 'Album' are always displayed in the player. I suspect that something else is the issue. Carlos Camara Data Solutions & Advisory -----Original Message----- From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Andrey Vasilkin Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 6:46 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] title streaming with ices On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 16:18 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > >Recently Stream Licensing LLC has changed their requirements so that > >streaming internet stations in the US must title stream the album > >along with the song title and artist. > > > >I use ices for the backup automation when no live programming is > >taking place. > > > >Ices shows the song title and artist on the player with no problem. > > > >My question is how I configure ices to show the album as well? Ices-ne (a new ices for OS/2 / eComStation / ArcaOS and Windows) sends metadata: Artist - Title - Album. and it supports national symbols in tags. http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=ices-ne&pushbutton=Search ftp://idenis.snc.ru/users/GreenPoison/ices-ne-20170608.zip _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net Fri Jun 9 17:33:58 2017 From: phschafft at de.loewenfelsen.net (Philipp Schafft) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 17:33:58 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] title streaming with ices In-Reply-To: <034d01d2e12f$5cee0160$16ca0420$@acbradio.org> References: <12d001d2dee0$9ffb1ac0$dff15040$@acbradio.org> <1496772246.6252.14.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> <59388227.5080904@os2.snc.ru> <034d01d2e12f$5cee0160$16ca0420$@acbradio.org> Message-ID: <1497029638.6252.62.camel@de.loewenfelsen.net> Good evening, On Fri, 2017-06-09 at 14:47 +0000, Larry Turnbull wrote: > Unfortunately I am still using ices0 because our streams are mp3 streams. I'm sorry to say so, but last release of IceS0 was on 2004-08-28. It's deprecated for more than a decade. I very much recommend to move on to a different source client. With best regards, -- Philipp Schafft (CEO/Gesch?ftsf?hrer) Telephon: +49.3535 490 17 92 L?wenfelsen UG (haftungsbeschr?nkt) Registration number: Bickinger Stra?e 21 HRB 12308 CB 04916 Herzberg (Elster) VATIN/USt-ID: Germany DE305133015 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From drh0603 at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 10:06:05 2017 From: drh0603 at gmail.com (David R Howard) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:06:05 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein Message-ID: I am experiencing difficulties connecting Icecast to Tunein. Are there any facilities available to help me through this process or a step by step guide. Many thanks David R Howard -- David R Howard Papa D Productions www.papa-d.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abitar.com at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 13:57:20 2017 From: abitar.com at gmail.com (David Saunders) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tunein is a directory from what I can tell is does not broadcast anything to connect to. You would have to dig into there webpage to access the url need to connect to the stream. This is what I can tell from my short examination of the site. On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:06 AM, David R Howard wrote: > I am experiencing difficulties connecting Icecast to Tunein. Are there any > facilities available to help me through this process or a step by step > guide. > Many thanks > David R Howard > > -- > David R Howard > Papa D Productions > www.papa-d.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yahav.shasha at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 14:08:36 2017 From: yahav.shasha at gmail.com (Yahav Shasha) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:08:36 +0300 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, You'll have to be way more specific. What you mean by connect Icecast to Tunein.com"? are you trying to submit your radio to their directory? if so, take a look at this page: http://tunein.com/syndication/new/?IsBroadcaster=true On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:57 PM, David Saunders wrote: > Tunein is a directory from what I can tell is does not broadcast anything > to connect to. You would have to dig into there webpage to access the url > need to connect to the stream. > > This is what I can tell from my short examination of the site. > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:06 AM, David R Howard wrote: > >> I am experiencing difficulties connecting Icecast to Tunein. Are there >> any facilities available to help me through this process or a step by step >> guide. >> Many thanks >> David R Howard >> >> -- >> David R Howard >> Papa D Productions >> www.papa-d.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > -- Yahav Shasha, Web Developer +972-(0)549214421 http://www.linkedin.com/in/yahavs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abitar.com at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 14:09:47 2017 From: abitar.com at gmail.com (David Saunders) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:09:47 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If your trying to get listed your format should be in http://:/.m3u example: http://example.com:8000/mystreamount.m3u On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:57 AM, David Saunders wrote: > Tunein is a directory from what I can tell is does not broadcast anything > to connect to. You would have to dig into there webpage to access the url > need to connect to the stream. > > This is what I can tell from my short examination of the site. > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:06 AM, David R Howard wrote: > >> I am experiencing difficulties connecting Icecast to Tunein. Are there >> any facilities available to help me through this process or a step by step >> guide. >> Many thanks >> David R Howard >> >> -- >> David R Howard >> Papa D Productions >> www.papa-d.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From relen at brideswell.com Tue Jun 20 14:28:19 2017 From: relen at brideswell.com (Richard Elen) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:28:19 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/20/17 11:06, David R Howard wrote: > I am experiencing difficulties connecting Icecast to Tunein. Are there > any facilities available to help me through this process or a step by > step guide. Do you mean you are trying to send Now Playing data to TuneIn so that the current song title and artist appears in their player? Here's a description of how their API works and what you have to send it. I don't have a solution for sending it from the server and would LOVE to know one myself! In the absence of a server-based solution, these guys offer an inexpensive widget that scrapes the metadata from the stream and sends it to TuneIn: http://shoutcastwidgets.com/tunein.php If you were after something else, then hopefully one of the other responses will help. --R From telmnstr at 757.org Tue Jun 20 15:00:44 2017 From: telmnstr at 757.org (Ethan) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Here's a description of how their API works and what you have to send > it. I don't have a solution for sending it from the server and would > LOVE to know one myself! I used to run an internet radio station that was listed on TuneIn! Turned it all off when I took a job with a large internet streaming music service. The way my setup worked was the automation system was Rivendell. I used a script I found online that would update the Icecast stream title with the currently playing artist and song. This was triggered by Rivendell on song change. I also added into that script the API hook to update the artist and title with TuneIn, using wget or curl. The downside was, as I recall, that TuneIn only did song/title updates on one of the two big mobile platforms. Like Android would update but IOS wouldn't, or vice-versa. Hopefully they've fixed that because I plan to return to internet streaming at some point in the future! Good luck! - Ethan From drh0603 at gmail.com Tue Jun 20 15:27:41 2017 From: drh0603 at gmail.com (David R Howard) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:27:41 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Talk about doing my head in ... I've got 'Playit Live' sorted. Our stations shows are on there waiting .. I've linked my stream from my 'Playit Live' (Similar to Rivendell) account to Icecast and they report back '*on air*' - but WHERE ????!!!!!, How the heck can people listen to what I'm sending to Icecast? what is the URL that people need to visit to listen to our radio station? .. I've kicked the cat, Sulked for hours on end and even begged Icecast for help, my wife has threatened to take the car and kids .. all to no avail...???? The only conclusion left is, I'm a total dummy or Icecast like to make things as difficult as possible. Before I finally give up and throw the whole thing out of the window. As we're four floors up that might be dangerous for someone walking below .. PLEASE HELP David R Howard On 20 June 2017 at 16:00, Ethan wrote: > Here's a description of how their API works and what you have to send it. >> I don't have a solution for sending it from the server and would LOVE to >> know one myself! >> > > I used to run an internet radio station that was listed on TuneIn! Turned > it all off when I took a job with a large internet streaming music service. > > The way my setup worked was the automation system was Rivendell. > > I used a script I found online that would update the Icecast stream title > with the currently playing artist and song. This was triggered by Rivendell > on song change. I also added into that script the API hook to update the > artist and title with TuneIn, using wget or curl. > > The downside was, as I recall, that TuneIn only did song/title updates on > one of the two big mobile platforms. Like Android would update but IOS > wouldn't, or vice-versa. Hopefully they've fixed that because I plan to > return to internet streaming at some point in the future! > > Good luck! > > - Ethan > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- David R Howard Papa D Productions www.papa-d.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From telmnstr at 757.org Tue Jun 20 15:56:48 2017 From: telmnstr at 757.org (Ethan) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Icecast] Icecast to Tunein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Talk about doing my head in ... I've got 'Playit Live' sorted. Our stations > shows are on there waiting .. I've linked my stream from my 'Playit Live' > (Similar to Rivendell) account to Icecast and they report back '*on air*' - > but WHERE ????!!!!!, How the heck can people listen to what I'm sending to > Icecast? what is the URL that people need to visit to listen to our radio > station? .. Rivendell is a self-hosted Linux based commercial grade playout system that real radio stations use. I don't know about other 3rd party Software-as-a-service web based things. I think your issue is with the 3rd party application. Icecast literally just takes in MP3 (and whatever other format audio) and copies it out to multiple "listeners" over the internet. I think your issue might be with the "Playit Live" software or service, not icecast? Icecast is just the engine that powers the servers that duplicate the audio feed to multiple listeners. It doesn't handle the playing of music, or updating of 3rd party indexes like TuneIn. [Client feeding music] ---> [Icecast server] <---> [Listeners] In this case client feeding music is "Playit Live" From d at digitaldarragh.com Wed Jun 21 12:08:42 2017 From: d at digitaldarragh.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Darragh_=D3_H=E9iligh?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:08:42 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Artist title. Message-ID: Hello, I think that EZStream has been built with libtag but I'm having problems with artist names not showing in status-json.xsl. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Regards Darragh ? H?iligh Websites: Personal: www.digitaldarragh.com Professional: www.computersupportservices.ie Music: www.ceol.fm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From turponieminen at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 18:41:08 2017 From: turponieminen at gmail.com (Petri Muinonen) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:41:08 +0300 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast "autodj" and static fallback file problems Message-ID: Hi. I have icecast2 setup that has multiple mounts, reserved for live streams. They all have common fallback mount to /autodj where Ezstream streams mp3 files. My problem number 1 is that listeners seem to jump into wrong mounts after they have fallen back from their original mount. For example listeners connect to /live1, there is no stream in /live1 so they fallback to /autodj, now /live2 starts streaming and listeners are moved to that mount. Problem number 2 is, that i tried to fix this behavior by specifying each live mount a static mp3 fallback file. File is in the webroot and works but now i can not connect to mounts with my streaming client (Edcast), it just disconnects. -turponieminen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: