From bluntroller at yandex.com Sun May 1 00:30:03 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 02:30:03 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] iptables Message-ID: <57254E0B.5060603@yandex.com> Hey, so far i have read iptables is the ticket to redirect icecast-streams to port 80. There are only very few links out there in the web handling that topic. Does anyone have some tested and working iptables in production and would share them? I'd really appreciate it! Greets Gee From raylutz at cognisys.com Sun May 1 17:27:46 2016 From: raylutz at cognisys.com (Ray Lutz) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 10:27:46 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] Trying to build ices-0.4 on ubuntu and "libshout not?usable" In-Reply-To: <09be01d1a26f$08cdce30$1a696a90$@acbradio.org> References: <695ba8c9-687f-aa18-913b-d0442939b54d@cognisys.com> <09be01d1a26f$08cdce30$1a696a90$@acbradio.org> Message-ID: <675c1de5-28bd-70b1-6997-4a7039a5012e@cognisys.com> Yes, I used this approach and I am now making progress. Thank you to the list for your help. --Ray On 04/29/2016 4:29 PM, Larry Turnbull wrote: > Hi Ray: > > With Ubuntu for the libshout library it will work if you install it using the apt-get command. > > Apt-get install libshout-dev > > I got ices to work on Ubuntu 14.04 with this. > > Hope that helps. > > Larry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Icecast [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Ray Lutz > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:03 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [Icecast] Trying to build ices-0.4 on ubuntu and "libshout not usable" > > Hello: > I hope someone can take a look at this and give me a little push to get me past this logjam. > > I've been running icecast + ices-0.4 + a perl application developed internally which runs an mp3 stream for a number of years. > I am migrating my server from CentOS to ubuntu so I can upgrade to Perl > 5.18 (so as to get clean unicode processing for another application.) I have installed everything else but ices is not cooperating. > > On CentOS, I had no problem building ices-0.4. Now, configure says it can't find a usable version of libshout. > but I built libshout and it exists at /usr/local/lib: > > root at vps4:/var/www/vhosts/airprogressive.org/private/othercode/ices-0.4# > ls /usr/local/lib/libshout* -al > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 543020 Apr 29 18:20 /usr/local/lib/libshout.a > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1031 Apr 29 18:20 /usr/local/lib/libshout.la > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Apr 29 18:20 /usr/local/lib/libshout.so -> > libshout.so.3.2.0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Apr 29 18:20 /usr/local/lib/libshout.so.3 > -> libshout.so.3.2.0 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 326803 Apr 29 18:20 /usr/local/lib/libshout.so.3.2.0 > > Strangely, even though I built and installed libshout-2.4.1 it winds up installing as libshout.so.3.2.0. > > Here is a list of things that may be useful from a browser-activated perl script that gives me the basics. > ----------------------------------------- > OS ?Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS > > Environment Variables: > CONTEXT_DOCUMENT_ROOT = /var/www/vhosts/cognisys.com/httpdocs > CONTEXT_PREFIX = > DOCUMENT_ROOT = /var/www/vhosts/cognisys.com/httpdocs > GATEWAY_INTERFACE = CGI/1.1 > HTTP_ACCEPT = > text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,*/*;q=0.8 > HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING = gzip, deflate, sdch HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en-US,en;q=0.8 HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL = max-age=0 HTTP_CONNECTION = keep-alive HTTP_HOST = 69.73.179.57 HTTP_UPGRADE_INSECURE_REQUESTS = 1 HTTP_USER_AGENT = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.112 Safari/537.36 MOD_PERL = mod_perl/2.0.8 MOD_PERL_API_VERSION = 2 PATH = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin > QUERY_STRING = > REMOTE_ADDR = 72.220.142.223 > REMOTE_PORT = 17565 > REQUEST_METHOD = GET > REQUEST_SCHEME = http > REQUEST_URI = /w203/bin/simple > SCRIPT_FILENAME = /var/www/vhosts/cognisys.com/httpdocs/w203/bin/simple > SCRIPT_NAME = /w203/bin/simple > SCRIPT_URI = http://69.73.179.57/w203/bin/simple > SCRIPT_URL = /w203/bin/simple > SERVER_ADDR = 69.73.179.57 > SERVER_ADMIN = raylutz at cognisys.com > SERVER_NAME = 69.73.179.57 > SERVER_PORT = 80 > SERVER_PROTOCOL = HTTP/1.1 > SERVER_SIGNATURE = > > Apache Server at 69.73.179.57 Port 80 > > SERVER_SOFTWARE = Apache > uid=33(www-data) gid=33(www-data) > groups=33(www-data),1002(psaserv),1008(psasb) > Other Information: > Perl Version: 5.018002 > > ----------------------------- > And here is what happens when I try to configure. > ----------------------------- > > # ./configure --with-perl --with-lame > checking for gcc... gcc > checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... > checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for AIX... no checking for library containing strerror... none required checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking minix/config.h usability... no checking minix/config.h presence... no checking for minix/config.h... no checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking for inline... inline checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... yes checking errno.h usability... yes checking errno.h presence... yes checking for errno.h... yes checking fcntl.h usability... yes checking fcntl.h presence... yes checking for fcntl.h... yes checking signal.h usability... yes checking signal.h presence... yes checking for signal.h... yes checking sys/signal.h usability... yes checking sys/signal.h presence... yes checking for sys/signal.h... yes checking sys/socket.h usability... yes checking sys/socket.h presence... yes checking for sys/socket.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... (cached) yes checking sys/time.h usability... yes checking sys/time.h presence... yes checking for sys/time.h... yes checking for sys/types.h... (cached) yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking for pid_t... yes checking for size_t... yes checking return type of signal handlers... void checking for strftime... yes checking for vsnprintf... yes checking for setsid... yes checking for setlinebuf... yes checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of g++... gcc3 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... no checking for xlf... no checking for frt... no checking for pgf77... no checking for fort77... no checking for fl32... no checking for af77... no checking for f90... no checking for xlf90... no checking for pgf90... no checking for epcf90... no checking for f95... no checking for fort... no checking for xlf95... no checking for ifc... no checking for efc... no checking for pgf95... no checking for lf95... no checking for gfortran... no checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no checking whether accepts -g... no checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if gcc static flag works... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes > configure: creating libtool > appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64 checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking for pkg-config... no checking for shout-config... no > configure: error: Could not find a usable libshout > > IDEAS??? > > Thank you in advance! > --Ray Lutz > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From thinway at gmail.com Tue May 3 22:15:52 2016 From: thinway at gmail.com (Fran Delgado) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 00:15:52 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? Message-ID: Hi, there! I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found anything. Anyone can help me? Thanks -- Fran Delgado (ThinWay) Tumblr: http://thinway.tumblr.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/thinway -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluntroller at yandex.com Wed May 4 00:48:59 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 02:48:59 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> you have 'a' doubt? precise your question or do you want to make a quiz here? this is f.... icecast and it's a damn good piece of software. runs like a honey down the nipple, up to 8 streams simultaneously including shoutcast. read the docs! On 04.05.2016 00:15, Fran Delgado wrote: > Hi, there! > I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or both. > I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found anything. > Anyone can help me? > > Thanks > > -- > Fran Delgado (ThinWay) > Tumblr: http://thinway.tumblr.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/thinway > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQINBFbjTrwBEAC7sFgwbSCHUIzxwIhrbkanN0dOBfXHPpDIrfNMjEcsH+Q3HnJz 0UX2joNp5I8GwlLiJHZFDTS9n83sXCokKgKYuBATeOGdC4Hc4JrmK5nEbby8OXFk g1lo96x1IqKRlkhqudW86V1vVfVSL50H6JGZqdm//mujzaqabKsCNvh9gQZiSvEG lSZBt8B5itn+oeKw835/6Mri4TLcmL7BLsDdS4RsKuw4VfhY4yYEqhxxYssac90J omzD9os3CI1ZfiSoG1ZpVJ8sTYe+AAj6OAdCXXlGQepC7GQJ3eUiTyMrEw52ynKg ADHQksm0ZPUhQpZHScLcYpy/PIJEbtnoHj+Xceu8SnvJd38sI+70oHB/k4lHsb90 i3VFdQ1iPSEJqCq6kp0At6x7arylgdk+iobVCjcUJQzHMgf+RzY3SOFGynm1R98U worvXSx/koM7kurDXpMSkPAK6i3kvBfIYDbiemdn+DeEC8eIiW6YJSTLiq9IFqYF BqIo0q7GDdZ72y2VS3YN11TaPLvICGWdEOMlL3DyNXYxzufUKGpw5PdSS6lHVSH2 9n7jCXxKbymZyYmz2hK20Z3RXSwjN9nB9i4GofLRRj3ZbRclpOUze6fzHT4dO0vD X0lNCemI7okMw8C48ABYF/FdRLgBG4avkQ4u+MiBkskKR+YD9KaIbLP52QARAQAB tClHZWUgQmVlICg8bm9uZT4pIDxibHVudHJvbGxlckB5YW5kZXguY29tPokCPQQT AQgAJwUCVuNOvAIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAA hcntfQY4dcyqD/9o8A5jiJbrGPUjM5VGbT/+JSdFMA4hSvpfKb2Xh2LcPa0jTQjF Redz1q5AIzUvP+1QZ5eDcdrVJCXiVAbw+EPkpAU3wFf16p1BrlhcDbJw5bE1ytKE USaN93mSHrILlHPRXOHtNtJ/gDzN1XDe8re/LM76OAwAIVvLAsiKIkwPKqEMVYKp jPEUiXugadXfMUz1wQ8Gdp6HgKZVQtPGBI5SeFq1GHzh5HNZ0tkApvJRy4v4q5Pg AsTsm9stkhQVDvuHsRk97KFD1fpstfWBg3K3UPtFpPDRVPJM7mhEjWD9S1ihGUJ0 VTxQ69WLIIQX0ZO8CmHuRwTjcjSmvCJFbxBYENKb6UBsHHUK/czrRqavlURPZQVo 21iRsTUtvYN1xjYuXKsrvX1fmNQBjBiM4WGOWlWYzSvHsG66BHelK3ogVyACRku4 ePPWiHtgMk/MWQfT2pqeHVdJKCBLzLe9HY5vPypNtpoxhbPoZVFbAumKNZpc+f4k M0T3z3TsVN4p1JIfur7rJC/RlKOWMtCzuu4k5IOEKW/4ttApahg6w2V5zDi0Rexy S42tQsaN7JrLF+Ekx72udhrPzB11AnYON5cCYuDves/Fun8whivmCe7FfsG1SP8M jvTb19hsLT2W0wsCKaAuySgXtAUTNkb9E8Fj+q6kknGEPRafpN/NuU0ZEbkCDQRW 4068ARAAnf8v+pMlhKzqrhgkHd8geccX0+zTfQ5rcOeCU/Wb0gWrJUDKh0eP3x+n r9dB1IXrRtJEHbQOyUQHg18nMM3FziZ+HQPYKWRN6HxY9IeJzHpJPMRmQ9lUEhdn 6mNcN5ZXnnG2vm1L+IYh9EBJ4kN6qIbN/xPR7ioU4+r0Wm2pme+G2K7T7+6+BF9W YaOAkvbAbr2m0A3a6fXG/8XuPF3hxC7i1VCL2xLtSQhdbP9vmXz7Lv6CV0eeDlqi tx8qNDvFoUuMlddK8geAxUPxzNwYFFvUomk9cFZiskANhWQ0ZXoAebq8zpAhvRaD obKSx+obuiWuKys/o5DtocDiQePwKa0alNf0UwmbuPz8n2a8DRNFrLDXp9LXLUsm dQ9kSGEljiD9nQ+WqopQG90borh0mLuGtMbqvj0h50uLLVFJzkEjw9pg/LuKYl9/ 9uOMlOQa684vxgwm2eLrLXfH7sAbVLEmiOkCUlN50MiGFwF97Xq0ElVIfw8OsQSD kQnC46NW2MOwdJHXK33VaIFHNwc/MpDw3zKqo4bKLalt6fhcU+StHtKFkZXDgGip EqnnjgeYK9brA1AP4hOLHldFEDinsREL6wSMSa059buvQ7evM2FYSM6rcYHnX/Bj 3BueZeMSiZ+rzOZeAhF+OFAQVhgdkg6Sgc136onLo0nv0qR4OTcAEQEAAYkCJQQY AQgADwUCVuNOvAIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRAAhcntfQY4dfghD/41lqclaVG/oPETxO3h m4eo0TKDz/KJX+SF8+vnS+l+yjN3yN5qEl40fmc3jerSr7ouBP0Z+hWdLc9rMdDM 9BndX3omosOK1eXf0opsq79YRBACCS3bE4NDwsGZnQruHT+K38JZSaYG/nO6Yydo ZBdffeUAKrs3gy0RSP5ik13wqOuJ8N1RJzYKqFy4Owl5ib5ckHvUWrnX2WXzReWH Vs6AyZR/nxYFIGJCkXKsFPGjUmSSV+GggNSPPUJZaKNQU6Frqs4lvCi0fEzM/thM O7e6thMiNh2nmqftppqxD4/Gjez+QRUjBakEkuKNFYO/vXFzXPntsDK+HPh9+iW0 XVP+2wb9VaWxOqOgWNqKIJvehuHNx1pphE1PLiltDHeCoX76svK2SwFLl40bl+UP OCztsu4ACxXQ2TEMN+qhUEvfuGTMYVJfoHvsbM9S3mDHPyVhDQnh12SeB6tjANk3 nlIrcoR/2Q3zqcBF/Y7rZy6/5RP5H1Ad+BUP2vrXlVW+xvoWFjgVPjLX3jxkALuN 8TcjTbwnT6NOge71oHIXV9yy2LkKFx/ArmZ64HiveSEQ+rS6WqWu3vUyqP7+ZmPE Pb2j5dkpcGyvS4Wc1Ijj2pvhpPrD7M0IaiIjM6efO5B1SFrmyAzzWPsVpS2lptzi mUWzQZD2thq1kqvtwmGz0PxaZQ== =y6Yc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- Workstation(s) 2xIvy Bridge|16GB-SDRAM|120GB-SDHD|2x16GB|2x3TB - LUKS Operating Systems - Arch Linux & Ubuntu Studio Programming - C/C++|ASM|php|bash CMS - Drupal - Server 2 Cores|2GB-RAM|50GB-SDHD|6TB Traffic|Tor-Exit|Icecast-Stream - Gee Bee Productions Radio IT-Consulting Harware One-Off-Productions Webdesign - Content Management - Webhosting - www.pirate-radio.eu +41/76-7569208 tor-exit 138.201.94.42 donations (bitcoin) 13aXxBnwBnnJApKhCA9ZYLHqPYfHMY8B1d -----END PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- From theo at theo-andreou.org Wed May 4 06:47:37 2016 From: theo at theo-andreou.org (Theodotos Andreou) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:47:37 +0300 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> References: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> Message-ID: <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> On 04/05/2016 03:48 ??, buddylove wrote: > you have 'a' doubt? > precise your question or do you want to make a quiz here? > > this is f.... icecast and it's a damn good piece of software. > runs like a honey down the nipple, up to 8 streams simultaneously > including shoutcast. > read the docs! > > > > On 04.05.2016 00:15, Fran Delgado wrote: >> Hi, there! >> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or both. >> I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found anything. >> Anyone can help me? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Fran Delgado (ThinWay) >> Tumblr: http://thinway.tumblr.com >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/thinway >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > @buddylove: Can you point to us, at which place in the docs or the faq, mentions the word 'Unicast' or 'Multicast' From theo at theo-andreou.org Wed May 4 06:45:04 2016 From: theo at theo-andreou.org (Theodotos Andreou) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:04 +0300 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57299A70.6010806@theo-andreou.org> On 04/05/2016 01:15 ??, Fran Delgado wrote: > Hi, there! > I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or both. > I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found anything. > Anyone can help me? > > Thanks > > -- > Fran Delgado (ThinWay) > Tumblr: http://thinway.tumblr.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/thinway > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > AFAIK icecast is unicast only. From petr.pisar at atlas.cz Wed May 4 07:03:52 2016 From: petr.pisar at atlas.cz (Petr Pisar) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:03:52 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> References: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> Message-ID: <20160504070352.GA2469@dhcp-0-146.brq.redhat.com> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:47:37AM +0300, Theodotos Andreou wrote: > @buddylove: Can you point to us, at which place in the docs or the faq, > mentions the word 'Unicast' or 'Multicast' Icecast implements Shoutcast protocol that uses TCP for transport, hence unicast only. -- Petr -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 213 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lion at lion.leolix.org Wed May 4 07:52:43 2016 From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 07:52:43 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <20160504070352.GA2469@dhcp-0-146.brq.redhat.com> References: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> <20160504070352.GA2469@dhcp-0-146.brq.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20160504075248.D4FC913294@grassland.keep-cool.org> Good morning, On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 09:03 +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > Icecast implements Shoutcast protocol > that uses TCP for transport, > hence unicast only. Where exactly do you read that Icecast implements ICY (the Shoutcast protocol) in that FAQ? Icecast is a HTTP streaming solution. -- Philipp. (Rah of PH2) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lion at lion.leolix.org Wed May 4 08:25:19 2016 From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 08:25:19 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> Good morning, On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: > Hi, there! > I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or > both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found > anything. Anyone can help me? Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented using unicast. Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on 'common ground' (such as the internet). Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol [3] RFC 793 -- Philipp. (Rah of PH2) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bluntroller at yandex.com Wed May 4 13:35:59 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 15:35:59 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> References: <572946FB.5020800@yandex.com> <57299B09.2010606@theo-andreou.org> Message-ID: <5729FABF.5050308@yandex.com> @myself (and others) nowhere On 04.05.2016 08:47, Theodotos Andreou wrote: > On 04/05/2016 03:48 ??, buddylove wrote: >> you have 'a' doubt? >> precise your question or do you want to make a quiz here? >> >> this is f.... icecast and it's a damn good piece of software. >> runs like a honey down the nipple, up to 8 streams simultaneously >> including shoutcast. >> read the docs! >> >> >> >> On 04.05.2016 00:15, Fran Delgado wrote: >>> Hi, there! >>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or both. >>> I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found anything. >>> Anyone can help me? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> -- >>> Fran Delgado (ThinWay) >>> Tumblr: http://thinway.tumblr.com >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/thinway >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Icecast mailing list >>> Icecast at xiph.org >>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >>> >> > > @buddylove: Can you point to us, at which place in the docs or the faq, > mentions the word 'Unicast' or 'Multicast' > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -- -----BEGIN PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- Workstation(s) 2xIvy Bridge|16GB-SDRAM|120GB-SDHD|2x16GB|2x3TB - 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In-Reply-To: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> Message-ID: <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> @Phil nice text... just want to mention (or better ask...) what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple connections by connection tracking? In the end... its the same... On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: > Good morning, > > On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >> Hi, there! >> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >> anything. Anyone can help me? > > Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is > also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. > As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented > using unicast. > Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested > in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. > However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It > imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic > according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on > 'common ground' (such as the internet). > > Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. 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In-Reply-To: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> Message-ID: <572A0C95.1090107@yandex.com> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: > Good morning, > > On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >> Hi, there! >> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >> anything. Anyone can help me? > > Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is > also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. > As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented > using unicast. > Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested > in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. > However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It > imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic > according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on > 'common ground' (such as the internet). > > Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! > > > [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP > [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol > [3] RFC 793 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- -----BEGIN PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- Workstation(s) 2xIvy Bridge|16GB-SDRAM|120GB-SDHD|2x16GB|2x3TB - LUKS Operating Systems - Arch Linux & Ubuntu Studio Programming - C/C++|ASM|php|bash CMS - Drupal - Server 3 Cores|3GB-RAM|75GB-SDHD|10TB Traffic Tor-Exit|Icecast-Stream|Torrent-Stream - Gee Bee Productions Radio IT-Consulting Harware One-Off-Productions Intrusion Detection - Forensic - Pentesting Webdesign - Web-Authoring - Content Management - www.pirate-radio.eu +41/76-7569208 donations (bitcoin) 13aXxBnwBnnJApKhCA9ZYLHqPYfHMY8B1d -----END PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQINBFbjTrwBEAC7sFgwbSCHUIzxwIhrbkanN0dOBfXHPpDIrfNMjEcsH+Q3HnJz 0UX2joNp5I8GwlLiJHZFDTS9n83sXCokKgKYuBATeOGdC4Hc4JrmK5nEbby8OXFk g1lo96x1IqKRlkhqudW86V1vVfVSL50H6JGZqdm//mujzaqabKsCNvh9gQZiSvEG lSZBt8B5itn+oeKw835/6Mri4TLcmL7BLsDdS4RsKuw4VfhY4yYEqhxxYssac90J omzD9os3CI1ZfiSoG1ZpVJ8sTYe+AAj6OAdCXXlGQepC7GQJ3eUiTyMrEw52ynKg ADHQksm0ZPUhQpZHScLcYpy/PIJEbtnoHj+Xceu8SnvJd38sI+70oHB/k4lHsb90 i3VFdQ1iPSEJqCq6kp0At6x7arylgdk+iobVCjcUJQzHMgf+RzY3SOFGynm1R98U worvXSx/koM7kurDXpMSkPAK6i3kvBfIYDbiemdn+DeEC8eIiW6YJSTLiq9IFqYF BqIo0q7GDdZ72y2VS3YN11TaPLvICGWdEOMlL3DyNXYxzufUKGpw5PdSS6lHVSH2 9n7jCXxKbymZyYmz2hK20Z3RXSwjN9nB9i4GofLRRj3ZbRclpOUze6fzHT4dO0vD X0lNCemI7okMw8C48ABYF/FdRLgBG4avkQ4u+MiBkskKR+YD9KaIbLP52QARAQAB tClHZWUgQmVlICg8bm9uZT4pIDxibHVudHJvbGxlckB5YW5kZXguY29tPokCPQQT AQgAJwUCVuNOvAIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAA hcntfQY4dcyqD/9o8A5jiJbrGPUjM5VGbT/+JSdFMA4hSvpfKb2Xh2LcPa0jTQjF Redz1q5AIzUvP+1QZ5eDcdrVJCXiVAbw+EPkpAU3wFf16p1BrlhcDbJw5bE1ytKE USaN93mSHrILlHPRXOHtNtJ/gDzN1XDe8re/LM76OAwAIVvLAsiKIkwPKqEMVYKp jPEUiXugadXfMUz1wQ8Gdp6HgKZVQtPGBI5SeFq1GHzh5HNZ0tkApvJRy4v4q5Pg AsTsm9stkhQVDvuHsRk97KFD1fpstfWBg3K3UPtFpPDRVPJM7mhEjWD9S1ihGUJ0 VTxQ69WLIIQX0ZO8CmHuRwTjcjSmvCJFbxBYENKb6UBsHHUK/czrRqavlURPZQVo 21iRsTUtvYN1xjYuXKsrvX1fmNQBjBiM4WGOWlWYzSvHsG66BHelK3ogVyACRku4 ePPWiHtgMk/MWQfT2pqeHVdJKCBLzLe9HY5vPypNtpoxhbPoZVFbAumKNZpc+f4k M0T3z3TsVN4p1JIfur7rJC/RlKOWMtCzuu4k5IOEKW/4ttApahg6w2V5zDi0Rexy S42tQsaN7JrLF+Ekx72udhrPzB11AnYON5cCYuDves/Fun8whivmCe7FfsG1SP8M jvTb19hsLT2W0wsCKaAuySgXtAUTNkb9E8Fj+q6kknGEPRafpN/NuU0ZEbkCDQRW 4068ARAAnf8v+pMlhKzqrhgkHd8geccX0+zTfQ5rcOeCU/Wb0gWrJUDKh0eP3x+n r9dB1IXrRtJEHbQOyUQHg18nMM3FziZ+HQPYKWRN6HxY9IeJzHpJPMRmQ9lUEhdn 6mNcN5ZXnnG2vm1L+IYh9EBJ4kN6qIbN/xPR7ioU4+r0Wm2pme+G2K7T7+6+BF9W YaOAkvbAbr2m0A3a6fXG/8XuPF3hxC7i1VCL2xLtSQhdbP9vmXz7Lv6CV0eeDlqi tx8qNDvFoUuMlddK8geAxUPxzNwYFFvUomk9cFZiskANhWQ0ZXoAebq8zpAhvRaD obKSx+obuiWuKys/o5DtocDiQePwKa0alNf0UwmbuPz8n2a8DRNFrLDXp9LXLUsm dQ9kSGEljiD9nQ+WqopQG90borh0mLuGtMbqvj0h50uLLVFJzkEjw9pg/LuKYl9/ 9uOMlOQa684vxgwm2eLrLXfH7sAbVLEmiOkCUlN50MiGFwF97Xq0ElVIfw8OsQSD kQnC46NW2MOwdJHXK33VaIFHNwc/MpDw3zKqo4bKLalt6fhcU+StHtKFkZXDgGip EqnnjgeYK9brA1AP4hOLHldFEDinsREL6wSMSa059buvQ7evM2FYSM6rcYHnX/Bj 3BueZeMSiZ+rzOZeAhF+OFAQVhgdkg6Sgc136onLo0nv0qR4OTcAEQEAAYkCJQQY AQgADwUCVuNOvAIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRAAhcntfQY4dfghD/41lqclaVG/oPETxO3h m4eo0TKDz/KJX+SF8+vnS+l+yjN3yN5qEl40fmc3jerSr7ouBP0Z+hWdLc9rMdDM 9BndX3omosOK1eXf0opsq79YRBACCS3bE4NDwsGZnQruHT+K38JZSaYG/nO6Yydo ZBdffeUAKrs3gy0RSP5ik13wqOuJ8N1RJzYKqFy4Owl5ib5ckHvUWrnX2WXzReWH Vs6AyZR/nxYFIGJCkXKsFPGjUmSSV+GggNSPPUJZaKNQU6Frqs4lvCi0fEzM/thM O7e6thMiNh2nmqftppqxD4/Gjez+QRUjBakEkuKNFYO/vXFzXPntsDK+HPh9+iW0 XVP+2wb9VaWxOqOgWNqKIJvehuHNx1pphE1PLiltDHeCoX76svK2SwFLl40bl+UP OCztsu4ACxXQ2TEMN+qhUEvfuGTMYVJfoHvsbM9S3mDHPyVhDQnh12SeB6tjANk3 nlIrcoR/2Q3zqcBF/Y7rZy6/5RP5H1Ad+BUP2vrXlVW+xvoWFjgVPjLX3jxkALuN 8TcjTbwnT6NOge71oHIXV9yy2LkKFx/ArmZ64HiveSEQ+rS6WqWu3vUyqP7+ZmPE Pb2j5dkpcGyvS4Wc1Ijj2pvhpPrD7M0IaiIjM6efO5B1SFrmyAzzWPsVpS2lptzi mUWzQZD2thq1kqvtwmGz0PxaZQ== =y6Yc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net Wed May 4 16:04:38 2016 From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:04:38 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> Message-ID: <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> Hi buddylove, In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between multicast and unicast communications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast Cheers, Jordan On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: > @Phil > nice text... > just want to mention (or better ask...) > what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple > connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple > connections by connection tracking? > > In the end... its the same... > > On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >> Good morning, >> >> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>> Hi, there! >>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>> anything. Anyone can help me? >> >> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >> using unicast. >> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >> >> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! >> >> >> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP >> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol >> [3] RFC 793 From bluntroller at yandex.com Wed May 4 16:55:18 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:55:18 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: <572A2976.50200@yandex.com> I was already aware if this in the first place :-) On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: > Hi buddylove, > > In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading > which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between > multicast and unicast communications: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > > On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >> @Phil >> nice text... >> just want to mention (or better ask...) >> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >> connections by connection tracking? >> >> In the end... its the same... >> >> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>> Good morning, >>> >>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>> Hi, there! >>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>> >>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>> using unicast. >>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>> >>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! >>> >>> >>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP >>> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 >>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol >>> [3] RFC 793 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- -----BEGIN PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- Workstation(s) 2xIvy Bridge|16GB-SDRAM|120GB-SDHD|2x16GB|2x3TB - LUKS Operating Systems - Arch Linux & Ubuntu Studio Programming - C/C++|ASM|php|bash CMS - Drupal - Server 3 Cores|3GB-RAM|75GB-SDHD|10TB Traffic Tor-Exit|Icecast-Stream|Torrent-Stream - Gee Bee Productions Radio IT-Consulting Harware One-Off-Productions Intrusion Detection - Forensic - Pentesting Webdesign - Web-Authoring - Content Management - www.pirate-radio.eu +41/76-7569208 donations (bitcoin) 13aXxBnwBnnJApKhCA9ZYLHqPYfHMY8B1d -----END PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQINBFbjTrwBEAC7sFgwbSCHUIzxwIhrbkanN0dOBfXHPpDIrfNMjEcsH+Q3HnJz 0UX2joNp5I8GwlLiJHZFDTS9n83sXCokKgKYuBATeOGdC4Hc4JrmK5nEbby8OXFk g1lo96x1IqKRlkhqudW86V1vVfVSL50H6JGZqdm//mujzaqabKsCNvh9gQZiSvEG lSZBt8B5itn+oeKw835/6Mri4TLcmL7BLsDdS4RsKuw4VfhY4yYEqhxxYssac90J omzD9os3CI1ZfiSoG1ZpVJ8sTYe+AAj6OAdCXXlGQepC7GQJ3eUiTyMrEw52ynKg ADHQksm0ZPUhQpZHScLcYpy/PIJEbtnoHj+Xceu8SnvJd38sI+70oHB/k4lHsb90 i3VFdQ1iPSEJqCq6kp0At6x7arylgdk+iobVCjcUJQzHMgf+RzY3SOFGynm1R98U worvXSx/koM7kurDXpMSkPAK6i3kvBfIYDbiemdn+DeEC8eIiW6YJSTLiq9IFqYF BqIo0q7GDdZ72y2VS3YN11TaPLvICGWdEOMlL3DyNXYxzufUKGpw5PdSS6lHVSH2 9n7jCXxKbymZyYmz2hK20Z3RXSwjN9nB9i4GofLRRj3ZbRclpOUze6fzHT4dO0vD X0lNCemI7okMw8C48ABYF/FdRLgBG4avkQ4u+MiBkskKR+YD9KaIbLP52QARAQAB tClHZWUgQmVlICg8bm9uZT4pIDxibHVudHJvbGxlckB5YW5kZXguY29tPokCPQQT AQgAJwUCVuNOvAIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAA hcntfQY4dcyqD/9o8A5jiJbrGPUjM5VGbT/+JSdFMA4hSvpfKb2Xh2LcPa0jTQjF Redz1q5AIzUvP+1QZ5eDcdrVJCXiVAbw+EPkpAU3wFf16p1BrlhcDbJw5bE1ytKE USaN93mSHrILlHPRXOHtNtJ/gDzN1XDe8re/LM76OAwAIVvLAsiKIkwPKqEMVYKp jPEUiXugadXfMUz1wQ8Gdp6HgKZVQtPGBI5SeFq1GHzh5HNZ0tkApvJRy4v4q5Pg AsTsm9stkhQVDvuHsRk97KFD1fpstfWBg3K3UPtFpPDRVPJM7mhEjWD9S1ihGUJ0 VTxQ69WLIIQX0ZO8CmHuRwTjcjSmvCJFbxBYENKb6UBsHHUK/czrRqavlURPZQVo 21iRsTUtvYN1xjYuXKsrvX1fmNQBjBiM4WGOWlWYzSvHsG66BHelK3ogVyACRku4 ePPWiHtgMk/MWQfT2pqeHVdJKCBLzLe9HY5vPypNtpoxhbPoZVFbAumKNZpc+f4k M0T3z3TsVN4p1JIfur7rJC/RlKOWMtCzuu4k5IOEKW/4ttApahg6w2V5zDi0Rexy S42tQsaN7JrLF+Ekx72udhrPzB11AnYON5cCYuDves/Fun8whivmCe7FfsG1SP8M jvTb19hsLT2W0wsCKaAuySgXtAUTNkb9E8Fj+q6kknGEPRafpN/NuU0ZEbkCDQRW 4068ARAAnf8v+pMlhKzqrhgkHd8geccX0+zTfQ5rcOeCU/Wb0gWrJUDKh0eP3x+n r9dB1IXrRtJEHbQOyUQHg18nMM3FziZ+HQPYKWRN6HxY9IeJzHpJPMRmQ9lUEhdn 6mNcN5ZXnnG2vm1L+IYh9EBJ4kN6qIbN/xPR7ioU4+r0Wm2pme+G2K7T7+6+BF9W YaOAkvbAbr2m0A3a6fXG/8XuPF3hxC7i1VCL2xLtSQhdbP9vmXz7Lv6CV0eeDlqi tx8qNDvFoUuMlddK8geAxUPxzNwYFFvUomk9cFZiskANhWQ0ZXoAebq8zpAhvRaD obKSx+obuiWuKys/o5DtocDiQePwKa0alNf0UwmbuPz8n2a8DRNFrLDXp9LXLUsm dQ9kSGEljiD9nQ+WqopQG90borh0mLuGtMbqvj0h50uLLVFJzkEjw9pg/LuKYl9/ 9uOMlOQa684vxgwm2eLrLXfH7sAbVLEmiOkCUlN50MiGFwF97Xq0ElVIfw8OsQSD kQnC46NW2MOwdJHXK33VaIFHNwc/MpDw3zKqo4bKLalt6fhcU+StHtKFkZXDgGip EqnnjgeYK9brA1AP4hOLHldFEDinsREL6wSMSa059buvQ7evM2FYSM6rcYHnX/Bj 3BueZeMSiZ+rzOZeAhF+OFAQVhgdkg6Sgc136onLo0nv0qR4OTcAEQEAAYkCJQQY AQgADwUCVuNOvAIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRAAhcntfQY4dfghD/41lqclaVG/oPETxO3h m4eo0TKDz/KJX+SF8+vnS+l+yjN3yN5qEl40fmc3jerSr7ouBP0Z+hWdLc9rMdDM 9BndX3omosOK1eXf0opsq79YRBACCS3bE4NDwsGZnQruHT+K38JZSaYG/nO6Yydo ZBdffeUAKrs3gy0RSP5ik13wqOuJ8N1RJzYKqFy4Owl5ib5ckHvUWrnX2WXzReWH Vs6AyZR/nxYFIGJCkXKsFPGjUmSSV+GggNSPPUJZaKNQU6Frqs4lvCi0fEzM/thM O7e6thMiNh2nmqftppqxD4/Gjez+QRUjBakEkuKNFYO/vXFzXPntsDK+HPh9+iW0 XVP+2wb9VaWxOqOgWNqKIJvehuHNx1pphE1PLiltDHeCoX76svK2SwFLl40bl+UP OCztsu4ACxXQ2TEMN+qhUEvfuGTMYVJfoHvsbM9S3mDHPyVhDQnh12SeB6tjANk3 nlIrcoR/2Q3zqcBF/Y7rZy6/5RP5H1Ad+BUP2vrXlVW+xvoWFjgVPjLX3jxkALuN 8TcjTbwnT6NOge71oHIXV9yy2LkKFx/ArmZ64HiveSEQ+rS6WqWu3vUyqP7+ZmPE Pb2j5dkpcGyvS4Wc1Ijj2pvhpPrD7M0IaiIjM6efO5B1SFrmyAzzWPsVpS2lptzi mUWzQZD2thq1kqvtwmGz0PxaZQ== =y6Yc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net Wed May 4 16:59:45 2016 From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:59:45 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <572A2976.50200@yandex.com> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> <572A2976.50200@yandex.com> Message-ID: <572A2A81.10705@logicalnetworking.net> Oh, well by your "In the end... its the same..." statement and your question of what the difference is (and mentioning connection tracking which is a completely different subject), I was a bit confused as to your query. Cheers, Jordan On 05/04/2016 09:55 AM, buddylove wrote: > I was already aware if this in the first place :-) > > On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: >> Hi buddylove, >> >> In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading >> which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between >> multicast and unicast communications: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast >> >> >> Cheers, >> Jordan >> >> >> On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >>> @Phil >>> nice text... >>> just want to mention (or better ask...) >>> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >>> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >>> connections by connection tracking? >>> >>> In the end... its the same... >>> >>> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>>> Good morning, >>>> >>>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>>> Hi, there! >>>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>>> >>>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>>> using unicast. >>>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>>> >>>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! >>>> >>>> >>>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP >>>> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 >>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol >>>> [3] RFC 793 >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > -- Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB) Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678 From bluntroller at yandex.com Wed May 4 16:59:54 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:59:54 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: <572A2A8A.9090206@yandex.com> if you read ahead you'll figure that the infrastructure of the network 'en gros' isn't made for it (yet). because of this (and not just because I am a fan of) I propose other trials with overlay networks which could (under proper application) even be more efficient than the multicast protocol(s) itself. Greets and out Gee ... .-. . . On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: > Hi buddylove, > > In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading > which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between > multicast and unicast communications: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > > On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >> @Phil >> nice text... >> just want to mention (or better ask...) >> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >> connections by connection tracking? >> >> In the end... its the same... >> >> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>> Good morning, >>> >>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>> Hi, there! >>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>> >>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>> using unicast. >>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>> >>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. 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In-Reply-To: <572A2A8A.9090206@yandex.com> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> <572A2A8A.9090206@yandex.com> Message-ID: <1462382592.10455.1.camel@speedy.com.ar> Hi, El mi?, 04-05-2016 a las 18:59 +0200, buddylove escribi?: > if you read ahead you'll figure that the infrastructure of the network > 'en gros' isn't made for it (yet). > because of this (and not just because I am a fan of) I propose other > trials with overlay networks which could (under proper application) > even be more efficient than the multicast protocol(s) itself. > > Greets and out > > Gee ... .-. . . sree ?? :( > > On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: > > Hi buddylove, > > > > In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading > > which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between > > multicast and unicast communications: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast > > > > > > Cheers, > > Jordan > > > > > > On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: > >> @Phil > >> nice text... > >> just want to mention (or better ask...) > >> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple > >> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple > >> connections by connection tracking? > >> > >> In the end... its the same... > >> > >> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: > >>> Good morning, > >>> > >>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: > >>>> Hi, there! > >>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or > >>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found > >>>> anything. Anyone can help me? > >>> > >>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is > >>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. > >>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented > >>> using unicast. > >>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested > >>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. > >>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It > >>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic > >>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on > >>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). > >>> > >>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! > >>> > >>> > >>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP > >>> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 > >>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol > >>> [3] RFC 793 > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > From bluntroller at yandex.com Wed May 4 18:05:10 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 20:05:10 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Unicast or Multicast? In-Reply-To: <572A2A81.10705@logicalnetworking.net> References: <20160504082523.C8D3213294@grassland.keep-cool.org> <5729FBAC.20100@yandex.com> <572A1D96.8010809@logicalnetworking.net> <572A2976.50200@yandex.com> <572A2A81.10705@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: <572A39D6.70209@yandex.com> well.... once again the hammer man... answering in between reading 8 books, cooking, chatting with 2 gals and things like that can be confusing too. like my pal likes to say '... cryptographic advise is 120/h...'... No, I think you know what I mean I don't and didn't need to dig deeper into it. name is program here.. even On 04.05.2016 18:59, Jordan Erickson wrote: > Oh, well by your "In the end... its the same..." statement and your > question of what the difference is (and mentioning connection tracking > which is a completely different subject), I was a bit confused as to > your query. > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > On 05/04/2016 09:55 AM, buddylove wrote: >> I was already aware if this in the first place :-) >> >> On 04.05.2016 18:04, Jordan Erickson wrote: >>> Hi buddylove, >>> >>> In addition to the links Philipp provided you, here is some more reading >>> which will hopefully help you better understand the difference between >>> multicast and unicast communications: >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicast >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jordan >>> >>> >>> On 05/04/2016 06:39 AM, buddylove wrote: >>>> @Phil >>>> nice text... >>>> just want to mention (or better ask...) >>>> what the difference between a protocol which implements multiple >>>> connections simultaneously and a protocol implementing multiple >>>> connections by connection tracking? >>>> >>>> In the end... its the same... >>>> >>>> On 04.05.2016 10:25, Philipp Schafft wrote: >>>>> Good morning, >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 00:15 +0200, Fran Delgado wrote: >>>>>> Hi, there! >>>>>> I have a doubt about if this server supports unicast, multicast or >>>>>> both. I was looking for information in the web but I couldn't found >>>>>> anything. Anyone can help me? >>>>> >>>>> Icecast2 is a streaming solution that works using HTTP[0]. (HTTPS is >>>>> also supported using both methods[1].) HTTP uses TCP[2][3] as transport. >>>>> As TCP is a protocol that connects exactly two peers it's implemented >>>>> using unicast. >>>>> Multicast in contrast is used when there are a group of nodes interested >>>>> in the same data. This is normally implemented using UDP in case of IP. >>>>> However multicast support is very limited on the 'open internet'. It >>>>> imposes requirements on the nodes in between to route the traffic >>>>> according to group membership. This is a very high requirement on >>>>> 'common ground' (such as the internet). >>>>> >>>>> Have a nice day. Hope I helped you. And have a nice semester! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP >>>>> [1] RFC2817, RFC2818 >>>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol >>>>> [3] RFC 793 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Icecast mailing list >>> Icecast at xiph.org >>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >>> >> > -- -----BEGIN PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- Workstation(s) 2xIvy Bridge|16GB-SDRAM|120GB-SDHD|2x16GB|2x3TB - LUKS Operating Systems - Arch Linux & Ubuntu Studio Programming - C/C++|ASM|php|bash CMS - Drupal - Server 3 Cores|3GB-RAM|75GB-SDHD|10TB Traffic Tor-Exit|Icecast-Stream|Torrent-Stream - Gee Bee Productions Radio IT-Consulting Harware One-Off-Productions Intrusion Detection - Forensic - Pentesting Webdesign - Web-Authoring - Content Management - www.pirate-radio.eu +41/76-7569208 donations (bitcoin) 13aXxBnwBnnJApKhCA9ZYLHqPYfHMY8B1d -----END PUBLIC INFO BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQINBFbjTrwBEAC7sFgwbSCHUIzxwIhrbkanN0dOBfXHPpDIrfNMjEcsH+Q3HnJz 0UX2joNp5I8GwlLiJHZFDTS9n83sXCokKgKYuBATeOGdC4Hc4JrmK5nEbby8OXFk g1lo96x1IqKRlkhqudW86V1vVfVSL50H6JGZqdm//mujzaqabKsCNvh9gQZiSvEG lSZBt8B5itn+oeKw835/6Mri4TLcmL7BLsDdS4RsKuw4VfhY4yYEqhxxYssac90J omzD9os3CI1ZfiSoG1ZpVJ8sTYe+AAj6OAdCXXlGQepC7GQJ3eUiTyMrEw52ynKg ADHQksm0ZPUhQpZHScLcYpy/PIJEbtnoHj+Xceu8SnvJd38sI+70oHB/k4lHsb90 i3VFdQ1iPSEJqCq6kp0At6x7arylgdk+iobVCjcUJQzHMgf+RzY3SOFGynm1R98U worvXSx/koM7kurDXpMSkPAK6i3kvBfIYDbiemdn+DeEC8eIiW6YJSTLiq9IFqYF BqIo0q7GDdZ72y2VS3YN11TaPLvICGWdEOMlL3DyNXYxzufUKGpw5PdSS6lHVSH2 9n7jCXxKbymZyYmz2hK20Z3RXSwjN9nB9i4GofLRRj3ZbRclpOUze6fzHT4dO0vD X0lNCemI7okMw8C48ABYF/FdRLgBG4avkQ4u+MiBkskKR+YD9KaIbLP52QARAQAB tClHZWUgQmVlICg8bm9uZT4pIDxibHVudHJvbGxlckB5YW5kZXguY29tPokCPQQT AQgAJwUCVuNOvAIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAA hcntfQY4dcyqD/9o8A5jiJbrGPUjM5VGbT/+JSdFMA4hSvpfKb2Xh2LcPa0jTQjF Redz1q5AIzUvP+1QZ5eDcdrVJCXiVAbw+EPkpAU3wFf16p1BrlhcDbJw5bE1ytKE USaN93mSHrILlHPRXOHtNtJ/gDzN1XDe8re/LM76OAwAIVvLAsiKIkwPKqEMVYKp jPEUiXugadXfMUz1wQ8Gdp6HgKZVQtPGBI5SeFq1GHzh5HNZ0tkApvJRy4v4q5Pg AsTsm9stkhQVDvuHsRk97KFD1fpstfWBg3K3UPtFpPDRVPJM7mhEjWD9S1ihGUJ0 VTxQ69WLIIQX0ZO8CmHuRwTjcjSmvCJFbxBYENKb6UBsHHUK/czrRqavlURPZQVo 21iRsTUtvYN1xjYuXKsrvX1fmNQBjBiM4WGOWlWYzSvHsG66BHelK3ogVyACRku4 ePPWiHtgMk/MWQfT2pqeHVdJKCBLzLe9HY5vPypNtpoxhbPoZVFbAumKNZpc+f4k M0T3z3TsVN4p1JIfur7rJC/RlKOWMtCzuu4k5IOEKW/4ttApahg6w2V5zDi0Rexy S42tQsaN7JrLF+Ekx72udhrPzB11AnYON5cCYuDves/Fun8whivmCe7FfsG1SP8M jvTb19hsLT2W0wsCKaAuySgXtAUTNkb9E8Fj+q6kknGEPRafpN/NuU0ZEbkCDQRW 4068ARAAnf8v+pMlhKzqrhgkHd8geccX0+zTfQ5rcOeCU/Wb0gWrJUDKh0eP3x+n r9dB1IXrRtJEHbQOyUQHg18nMM3FziZ+HQPYKWRN6HxY9IeJzHpJPMRmQ9lUEhdn 6mNcN5ZXnnG2vm1L+IYh9EBJ4kN6qIbN/xPR7ioU4+r0Wm2pme+G2K7T7+6+BF9W YaOAkvbAbr2m0A3a6fXG/8XuPF3hxC7i1VCL2xLtSQhdbP9vmXz7Lv6CV0eeDlqi tx8qNDvFoUuMlddK8geAxUPxzNwYFFvUomk9cFZiskANhWQ0ZXoAebq8zpAhvRaD obKSx+obuiWuKys/o5DtocDiQePwKa0alNf0UwmbuPz8n2a8DRNFrLDXp9LXLUsm dQ9kSGEljiD9nQ+WqopQG90borh0mLuGtMbqvj0h50uLLVFJzkEjw9pg/LuKYl9/ 9uOMlOQa684vxgwm2eLrLXfH7sAbVLEmiOkCUlN50MiGFwF97Xq0ElVIfw8OsQSD kQnC46NW2MOwdJHXK33VaIFHNwc/MpDw3zKqo4bKLalt6fhcU+StHtKFkZXDgGip EqnnjgeYK9brA1AP4hOLHldFEDinsREL6wSMSa059buvQ7evM2FYSM6rcYHnX/Bj 3BueZeMSiZ+rzOZeAhF+OFAQVhgdkg6Sgc136onLo0nv0qR4OTcAEQEAAYkCJQQY AQgADwUCVuNOvAIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRAAhcntfQY4dfghD/41lqclaVG/oPETxO3h m4eo0TKDz/KJX+SF8+vnS+l+yjN3yN5qEl40fmc3jerSr7ouBP0Z+hWdLc9rMdDM 9BndX3omosOK1eXf0opsq79YRBACCS3bE4NDwsGZnQruHT+K38JZSaYG/nO6Yydo ZBdffeUAKrs3gy0RSP5ik13wqOuJ8N1RJzYKqFy4Owl5ib5ckHvUWrnX2WXzReWH Vs6AyZR/nxYFIGJCkXKsFPGjUmSSV+GggNSPPUJZaKNQU6Frqs4lvCi0fEzM/thM O7e6thMiNh2nmqftppqxD4/Gjez+QRUjBakEkuKNFYO/vXFzXPntsDK+HPh9+iW0 XVP+2wb9VaWxOqOgWNqKIJvehuHNx1pphE1PLiltDHeCoX76svK2SwFLl40bl+UP OCztsu4ACxXQ2TEMN+qhUEvfuGTMYVJfoHvsbM9S3mDHPyVhDQnh12SeB6tjANk3 nlIrcoR/2Q3zqcBF/Y7rZy6/5RP5H1Ad+BUP2vrXlVW+xvoWFjgVPjLX3jxkALuN 8TcjTbwnT6NOge71oHIXV9yy2LkKFx/ArmZ64HiveSEQ+rS6WqWu3vUyqP7+ZmPE Pb2j5dkpcGyvS4Wc1Ijj2pvhpPrD7M0IaiIjM6efO5B1SFrmyAzzWPsVpS2lptzi mUWzQZD2thq1kqvtwmGz0PxaZQ== =y6Yc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From hannah_carroll95 at hotmail.co.uk Tue May 10 22:16:22 2016 From: hannah_carroll95 at hotmail.co.uk (Hannah Carroll) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 23:16:22 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Overriding Butt broadcaster Message-ID: Hello,This isn't a major issue I just want to know for future if there is a way of overridding butt broadcaster.The other day one of my DJ's left there butt connected and we couldn't get the next Dj to connect.When we restarted the sever and the stream it still connected to the butt that wasn't stopped. RegardsHannah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lion at lion.leolix.org Tue May 10 22:44:00 2016 From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:44:00 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Overriding Butt broadcaster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160510224405.5D5D913294@grassland.keep-cool.org> Good evening, On Tue, 2016-05-10 at 23:16 +0100, Hannah Carroll wrote: > Hello, > This isn't a major issue I just want to know for future if there is a > way of overridding butt broadcaster. > The other day one of my DJ's left there butt connected and we couldn't > get the next Dj to connect. > When we restarted the sever and the stream it still connected to the > butt that wasn't stopped. You can always kick a specific source (it's in the admin panel). There is no need to restart the service for that. What likely happened here is that butt was configured to re-connect in case of connection breakdown. This is less a technical problem than a problem of daily practise. DJs should know what they're doing. ;) What can help is using some kind of more advanced setup. Like every DJ has their own set of credentials and you block them temporary or the system is only allowing DJs to connect within their slot. Those things should likely be used in a big station's setup to ensure smooth operation. However they require some more infrastructure. If you don't have such a deployment you can still try to kick the DJ and connect faster than the client is reconnecting (most wait a few seconds so the problem can go away). If that doesn't help you can temporary change credentials. But those are of cause more hacks in case the above can not be done for some reason. Hope I helped you. Have a nice day! -- Philipp. (Rah of PH2) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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