From zinphad at gmail.com Thu Jul 7 16:56:19 2016 From: zinphad at gmail.com (Mike Williams) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 12:56:19 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast is running, but not responding Message-ID: Howdy, I work for a public radio station, and have setup several Icecast servers in the past to stream our content. We have a new HD channel that we are trying to stream, and the new server is vexing me. This is a fresh dedicated server running RHEL 7.2 on a virtual system running VMWare 6.1. The install was done with the command yum --nogpgcheck localinstall icecast-2.4.2-1.el7.x86_64.rpm I copied the old icecast.xml file from my primary Icecast server, to save some time, but when that did not work, I started again from scratch and setup a very basic xml file, but that did not work either. The current icecast.xml file (a bit redacted) is: 1000 5 5 524288 30 15 10 65535 mypass mypass admin mypass my.ip.address 8000 1 /hd2 /usr/share/icecast /var/log/icecast /usr/share/icecast/web /usr/share/icecast/admin /var/run/icecast/icecast.pid access.log error.log playlist.log 4 0 icecast icecast When I run netstat -tnlp I get Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1358/sshd tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2054/master tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3095/icecast tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 1358/sshd tcp6 0 0 ::1:25 :::* LISTEN 2054/master So it's listening. But when I try to access it via my.ip.address:8000, it times out. Also when I try to send audio from the encoder, it will not connect. However, when I do a tcpdump -n -i eth0 tcp port 8000 while the encoder is trying to hit it, I get listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 12:40:42.043018 IP encoder.ip.address.52497 > my.ip.address.irdmi: Flags [S], seq 3183330347, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 8,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0 every couple of seconds. When trying to connect via web browser I get 12:43:38.625144 IP browser.ip.address.54947 > my.ip.address.irdmi: Flags [S], seq 1526231377, win 8192, options [mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK], length 0 So packets from both the browser and the encoder are getting to the server. The error log from last night (when I last restarted it) reads [2016-07-06 22:53:09] INFO main/main Icecast 2.4.2 server started [2016-07-06 22:53:09] DBUG yp/yp_recheck_config Updating YP configuration [2016-07-06 22:53:09] INFO yp/yp_update_thread YP update thread started [2016-07-06 22:53:09] INFO connection/get_ssl_certificate No SSL capability on any configured ports [2016-07-06 22:53:10] DBUG slave/_slave_thread checking master stream list The last line repeats every couple of minutes from there on. Icecast was started using the command systemctl start icecast.service systemctl -l status icecast.service Jul 06 22:53:09 servername.company.name icecast[3094]: Starting icecast2 Jul 06 22:53:09 servername.company.name icecast[3094]: Detaching from the console Jul 06 22:53:09 servername.company.name icecast[3094]: Changed groupid to 991. Jul 06 22:53:09 servername.company.name icecast[3094]: Changed supplementary groups based on user: icecast. Jul 06 22:53:09 servername.company.name icecast[3094]: Changed userid to 994. The icecast.service file is [Unit] Description=Icecast Network Audio Streaming Server After=network.target [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/icecast -b -c /etc/icecast.xml Type=forking ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I am sure there is info that I did not think to include. Any thought you have as to why this is happening are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluntroller at yandex.com Thu Jul 7 17:11:33 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 19:11:33 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast is running, but not responding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <577E8D45.80509@yandex.com> whats the quest? your post is incomplete... '... but when that did not work, I started again from scratch and setup a very basic xml file...' did you notice the probably newer version? -- The only absolute knowledge attainable by man is that life is meaningless. (Tolstoi) Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. (George Carlin) CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. 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The issue is, the Icecast is running, but will not display a web interface at my.ip.address:8000 and will not accept connections from my encoder. Anyone have any idea why it might be behaving this way? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schultmc at affordablestreaming.com Fri Jul 8 16:38:55 2016 From: schultmc at affordablestreaming.com (Michael Schultheiss) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:38:55 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast is running, but not responding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: firewalld is likely blocking the connection to icecast. On Jul 8, 2016 9:09 AM, "Mike Williams" wrote: > Sorry, I seem to have buried the issue in the midst of the post. > > The issue is, the Icecast is running, but will not display a web interface > at my.ip.address:8000 and will not accept connections from my encoder. > Anyone have any idea why it might be behaving this way? > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I read that the PEM file requires both private and public keys so I created an empty file called icecast.pem and pasted -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- private key content-----END RSA PRIVATE KEY----- -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- public key content-----END CERTIFICATE----- I am unable to serve SSL pages. I created CSR on the server and had CA send me key back. They are in PEM format and the individual files (CRT & KEY) are working on both my Centova and Apache webservers. I would greatly appreciate your assistance to resolve... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I already have the cert and key files. How do I combine these existing keys into a single PEM file?2. What directory do you suggest I place they PEM file? > To: icecast at xiph.org > From: bluntroller at yandex.com > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:19:03 +0200 > Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's > > @ the guy with the ssl certs problem: > > recheck file- and folder-permissions. > check if the ssl.-cert is generated correct. > re-check the icecast config-file and it's file- and folder-permissions. > are the involved files in the correct location so icecast can find them? > what about the pid-entry? > > greets > gee > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fountainbridge at live.com Mon Jul 11 03:23:35 2016 From: fountainbridge at live.com (Roger Bailey) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 03:23:35 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] set up help Message-ID: I'm an Icecast noob looking to start my own radio station, but have come to a wall in terms of installation/finishing. I've gotten as far as where you can see that administrator screen with the "Global Server Stats". What next? I'm totally confused on how Winamp is connected to it. (Using a pc with Win 7) Thanks for Any help! -R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluntroller at yandex.com Mon Jul 11 06:56:10 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 08:56:10 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> Message-ID: <5783430A.3050209@yandex.com> I am not familiar with the usage of SSL-Certs (in Icecast). I'd recommend to put them somewhere into a folder the webserver has access to. Don't forget to change ownership and mode etc. check this out about you problem with the files -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/991758/how-to-get-an-openssl-pem-file-from-key-and-crt-files From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net Mon Jul 11 16:10:04 2016 From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:10:04 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> Message-ID: <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> # cat fullchain.pem privkey.pem >combined.pem I wouldn't think it matters much where you put the cert as long as the running Icecast user has permissions to read it. I'd create (if not already created) /etc/icecast personally. : If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a "Invalid cert file" WARN message, just as if the file wasn't there. Cheers, Jordan On 07/10/2016 02:11 PM, Walter York wrote: > 1. I already have the cert and key files. How do I combine these > existing keys into a single PEM file? > 2. What directory do you suggest I place they PEM file? > >> To: icecast at xiph.org >> From: bluntroller at yandex.com >> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:19:03 +0200 >> Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's >> >> @ the guy with the ssl certs problem: >> >> recheck file- and folder-permissions. >> check if the ssl.-cert is generated correct. >> re-check the icecast config-file and it's file- and folder-permissions. >> are the involved files in the correct location so icecast can find them? >> what about the pid-entry? >> >> greets >> gee >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB) Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678 From bluntroller at yandex.com Mon Jul 11 16:25:45 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:25:45 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: <5783C889.2040800@yandex.com> all in the docs (btw) yeah you are right... the webserver doesn't deal with the icecast-server. but me personally, I put these kind of stuff into the webroot or near it. greets Werner Scherentz From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net Mon Jul 11 16:38:22 2016 From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: <5783C889.2040800@yandex.com> References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> <5783C889.2040800@yandex.com> Message-ID: <0b989b5e-0172-0ec0-07a1-571d9c1cde94@logicalnetworking.net> Putting your ssl certificate chain in a publicly accessible place like webroot is a very bad idea. Anyone could read it which means anyone could use it to impersonate your Icecast server. Cheers, Jordan On 07/11/2016 09:25 AM, buddylove wrote: > all in the docs (btw) > yeah you are right... > the webserver doesn't deal with the icecast-server. > but me personally, I put these kind of stuff into the webroot or near it. > > greets > > Werner Scherentz > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -- Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB) Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678 From bluntroller at yandex.com Mon Jul 11 16:52:06 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:52:06 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: <0b989b5e-0172-0ec0-07a1-571d9c1cde94@logicalnetworking.net> References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> <5783C889.2040800@yandex.com> <0b989b5e-0172-0ec0-07a1-571d9c1cde94@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: <5783CEB6.6040902@yandex.com> you did say THAT. however, as always... pleasure :-/ From fountainbridge at live.com Mon Jul 11 17:16:54 2016 From: fountainbridge at live.com (Roger Bailey) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: <5783430A.3050209@yandex.com> References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> ,<5783430A.3050209@yandex.com> Message-ID: This tech chat between buddylove and others is all going totally over my head. I just need someone to walk me through it step by step like I'm trying to land a plane since the directions on the icecast site are Greek to me. Thanks for Any help! Sent on my Boost Mobile Samsung Galaxy S? 5 -------- Original message -------- From: buddylove Date: 7/11/16 2:56 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] ssl-cert's I am not familiar with the usage of SSL-Certs (in Icecast). I'd recommend to put them somewhere into a folder the webserver has access to. Don't forget to change ownership and mode etc. check this out about you problem with the files -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/991758/how-to-get-an-openssl-pem-file-from-key-and-crt-files _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluntroller at yandex.com Mon Jul 11 18:58:07 2016 From: bluntroller at yandex.com (buddylove) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:58:07 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com> <5783430A.3050209@yandex.com> Message-ID: <5783EC3F.80503@yandex.com> Hi Roger sorry if I bothered you or even mislead you with some former post. With respect to IT I have totally different topics in my head than the 'Icecast-thing'. It's history for me already quite a while and the work I invested in making it running disgusted me. Please consider that English is not my mother-language and even if my English is good, it's not perfect or without mistakes. Where you put your certs and stuff isn't really of any importance because by the correct masking you can hide them - even in a folder where the webserver has access too. Security comes not by putting files in some folder or not (even jails), Security comes as a whole but that's another topic and the deeper I dig into it the more distant I get from your problem. Also there are always and everywhere people disagreeing, trying to put their own mustard on the sausage. Nice bla interlude isn't it. My recommendation and without crawling in my resources and the ones in the web here my advice: 1. check your cert files 2. download and read the suitable manual to your icecast-server 3. check the linkage between the files (icecast.xml <-> cert-files) 4. check the ownership and mode of the files and folders (icecast:icecast, 740) 5. check the linkage to the pid-file additionally you can 4. . check the webservers configs . if the ssl mod is loaded . if ssl is enable in the webserver of your choice Even if the other nerd around mentioned correct that the webserver usually has no meaning in that scenario... Can you set up the webserver (or any other similar application) you use to use your certs, are they working? There should usually not be more to do than that. I never set up a ssl-connection with my stream (for what? superfluous...) so I can't really report out of my experiences. From walteryork at hotmail.com Mon Jul 11 19:06:14 2016 From: walteryork at hotmail.com (Walter York) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:06:14 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] ssl-cert's In-Reply-To: <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> References: <5780DDA7.90104@yandex.com>, , <9959349b-34cd-4988-d483-639d199df944@logicalnetworking.net> Message-ID: Seems like I had SSL setup properly in the first place... Apparently Centovacast is not playing fair with my mount port, after setting up an alternate port and setting ssl and path to the cert in the config file, everything is good. I'll place these steps below for others to use... I used the following command to create a self-signed cert for testing... openssl req -new -newkey rsa:2048 -days 365 -nodes -x509 -keyout sample.pem -out sample.pem (this created a correctly formatted self-signed certificate that works) I placed the pem file into my ssl folder, made sure the user that runs icecast has perms to the pem file. I added the 1 to my config file and then added the path as well following the instructions from here: http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html I also used the instructions from here to create my pem file: https://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/pem-ssl-creation.htmSpecifically under the heading: Creating a .pem with the Private Key and Entire Trust Chain If you are using a Windows based system and not linux cat, you must use Wordpad and NOT Notepad. The certificate begin and certificate ends from consecutive certificates are on separate lines... not sure if that matters though. Now, since changing the ports from 8000 to 8050 having a secure page, the new page doesn't show any active streams... another thing to troubleshoot but I'm further along! > To: icecast at xiph.org > From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:10:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Icecast] ssl-cert's > > # cat fullchain.pem privkey.pem >combined.pem > > I wouldn't think it matters much where you put the cert as long as the > running Icecast user has permissions to read it. I'd create (if not > already created) /etc/icecast personally. > > : > > If specified, this points to the location of a file that contains both > the X.509 private and public key. This is required for HTTPS support to > be enabled. Please note that the user Icecast is running as must be able > to read the file. Failing to ensure this will cause a "Invalid cert > file" WARN message, just as if the file wasn't there. > > > Cheers, > Jordan > > > On 07/10/2016 02:11 PM, Walter York wrote: > > 1. I already have the cert and key files. How do I combine these > > existing keys into a single PEM file? > > 2. 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URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Fri Jul 22 18:39:11 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:39:11 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: <8B33E19A234C4A77B1CB18C357DB195D@Psycheman> Hi there, I am relatively new in the field of server administration, so please do bear with me if my question has an answer which seems blatantly obvious. I recently installed the latest Icecast onto my machine and read the documentation in order to find out how to configure the server. Both the information in the docs, and even the example config file, seemed reasonablly self-explanatory. After successfully configuring and starting the server I decided to see if I could get something to stream. I started up my streamer and was able to successfully connect. Then I decided to see whether I could connect to the stream as a listener. Here's where the problems started. My media player refused point blank to connect to the stream. I then tried accessing the stream directly from the url and found to my surprise that the stream was working. Since my browser has stream playback support, it started playing straight away. Once I was pretty sure that I could connect, albeit in a nonstandard way, to my stream and server interface on localhost, I then decided to see if my stream was being broadcast to the world. Unfortunately that failed in all areas. Despite having forwarded my ports through my router, tried all sorts of combinations, with many more references to the documentation and server/streamer restarts, I could not access it through my domain address whatsoever. I then attempted to reconfigure the server hostname to my domain and the streamer to point to my domain, but that failed. The streamer wouldn't even connect. At this point I?m out of ideas and am beginning to feel, if I may use this expression, crushed by the ice! So, I'm wondering: 1. Playback: I initially thought this was to do with extensions, but since I was encoding in mp3, I didn't think an extension was needed. Could there be any other reason as to why my browser is playing but my media player isn't? 2. Mountpoints: I noticed that when configuring, mountpoints were only either used for Shoutcast compatibility or for more advanced control. Does the server simply create the mountpoint specified in the stream settings? 3. Format: Again, I noticed that the server has no way to specify what format it needs to use. Is that also defined by the stream somehow? 4. Outside world: Is this something to do with bound addresses and the like? I can't imagine it somehow, because I think all those are to do with your hosts file and again, the documentation said this was an advanced topic. If not then what else, if anything, am I missing? 5. 32 v. 64 bit: I am running a 64-bit system but could only find a 32-bit Icecast. Does this matter? System configuration looks like this: OS: Windows 7 64-bit (SP1 Build 7601) Browser: Mozilla Firefox 47.0.1 Icecast: 2.4.3 Streamer: SAM 3.8.3 alongside Station Playlist Studio 5.11 Media player: Winamp 5.7.3323 Any help appreciated. Thanks. Damien. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From epirat07 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 19:41:10 2016 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:41:10 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: <8B33E19A234C4A77B1CB18C357DB195D@Psycheman> References: <8B33E19A234C4A77B1CB18C357DB195D@Psycheman> Message-ID: <8034D4A0-C382-4E17-BE75-389CA8458C99@gmail.com> On 22 Jul 2016, at 20:39, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote: > Hi there, Hello! > [?] > I then tried accessing the stream directly from the url and found to > my surprise that the stream was working. Since my browser has stream > playback support, it started playing straight away. If your browser is able to play the stream, Icecast works and if it does not with a different player, that's likely a player issue or you used the wrong URL. > Once I was pretty sure that I could connect, albeit in a nonstandard > way, to my stream and server interface on localhost, I then decided to > see if my stream was being broadcast to the world. Unfortunately that > failed in all areas. Despite having forwarded my ports through my > router, tried all sorts of combinations, with many more references to > the documentation and server/streamer restarts, I could not access it > through my domain address whatsoever. Make sure you are not explicitly binding Icecast to 127.0.0.1 as then, it would not be possible to access it by other means than using localhost. If it was working before in your browser using the local address, than it's likely that it's not a problem with Icecast or how it is configured. > [?] > So, I'm wondering: > 1. Playback: I initially thought this was to do with extensions, but > since I was encoding in mp3, I didn't think an extension was needed. > Could there be any other reason as to why my browser is playing but my > media player isn't? See above. > 2. Mountpoints: I noticed that when configuring, mountpoints were only > either used for Shoutcast compatibility or for more advanced control. > Does the server simply create the mountpoint specified in the stream > settings? Yes, if you do not require special configuration for a specific mountpoint, you can just use the source password with your source client and Icecast will implicitly "create" the mountpoint set in your source client. > 3. Format: Again, I noticed that the server has no way to specify what > format it needs to use. Is that also defined by the stream somehow? The server does not do any transcoding, it knows the format based on the content-type, so there is no need to set it. All the encoding is done by your source client. > 4. Outside world: Is this something to do with bound addresses and the > like? I can't imagine it somehow, because I think all those are to do > with your hosts file and again, the documentation said this was an > advanced topic. If not then what else, if anything, am I missing? No idea, never had such problems, maybe someone else is able to provide more information about this. > 5. 32 v. 64 bit: I am running a 64-bit system but could only find a > 32-bit Icecast. Does this matter? There is no 64 bit version of Icecast, that's not problem. You can just use the 32-bit Icecast on a 64 bit system. > > System configuration looks like this: > OS: Windows 7 64-bit (SP1 Build 7601) > Browser: Mozilla Firefox 47.0.1 > Icecast: 2.4.3 > Streamer: SAM 3.8.3 alongside Station Playlist Studio 5.11 > Media player: Winamp 5.7.3323 You might want to try some other player, like the VLC media player and tell us if it works with that, as it should. > Any help appreciated. > Thanks. > Damien. From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Fri Jul 22 20:21:50 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:21:50 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: <8034D4A0-C382-4E17-BE75-389CA8458C99@gmail.com> References: <8B33E19A234C4A77B1CB18C357DB195D@Psycheman> <8034D4A0-C382-4E17-BE75-389CA8458C99@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7A356B147FBB47C1AEEE09C948194676@Psycheman> Hi Marvin, Thanks for the clarifications. I didn't enter any address in the section, just a port. The example came with the 127.0.0.1 commented out, so I removed it altogether. The only other thing I can think of is the hostname in the main section, but that is set to my domain address, not to localhost or any IP address, local or otherwise. Cheers. From awi3 at live.com Fri Jul 22 20:31:04 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:31:04 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: try the IP of the server, and port ford ward that. my best guess, works on a machine with localhost, if you port forward the localhosts IP From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:21 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Marvin, Thanks for the clarifications. I didn't enter any address in the section, just a port. The example came with the 127.0.0.1 commented out, so I removed it altogether. The only other thing I can think of is the hostname in the main section, but that is set to my domain address, not to localhost or any IP address, local or otherwise. Cheers. _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Fri Jul 22 20:54:29 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:54:29 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69C139CED8B1478A86C382414DCE14D3@Psycheman> Hi Alan, In actual fact, I?m having to test everything (server, streamer and player) on the same machine, which is configured in my router to be the server. I have opened the port specified in my config and the port after it and I have set it to allow both TCP and UDP, as I didn?t know which it used. I have also tried setting the hostname to my external IP address rather than a domain, and have even tried linking the port to a bound address, nothing. In fact if I specify a bind-address it actually comes up with an error when starting the server itself. Cheers. Damien. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffares.robert at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 21:08:08 2016 From: jeffares.robert at gmail.com (Robert Jeffares) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:08:08 +1200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57928B38.80605@gmail.com> On 23/07/16 08:31, Alan Bowness wrote: > The only other thing I can think of is the hostname in the main > section, but that is set to my domain address, not to localhost or any IP > address, local or otherwise hostname should be the 'name' of your host computer. I use ip address so hostname = 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x or whatever your network uses make sure your computer has a FIXED not a DYNAMIC IP address. On your router you need to set up port forwarding so that the outside world looking at your modem/router address on port 8000 is directed to the host running Icecast . If you get stuck; post your icecast.xml regards Robert -- *Communication Consultants* 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 09 8176358 0221693124 06 650 6087 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Fri Jul 22 21:12:09 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:12:09 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: I use a few raspberry pi?s and leave the icecast settings as localhost, and run darkice on the same Pi, I have let the router know to pass requests to port 8000 to the IP of the Pi. Using your external IP is not right, if your server is say 192.168.1.21 thats the port forward, just be sure that the ports you use are in the router too, udp/tcp I use both myself watch for typos. I think you are looking into it too far, its basic really, sometimes I find rebooting the router (depends on type) will open the ports after a config change within the router, find its system settings in router, and use the reboot option if you can find it, else a cold boot ? switch it off for 30sec. Regards From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:54 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, In actual fact, I?m having to test everything (server, streamer and player) on the same machine, which is configured in my router to be the server. I have opened the port specified in my config and the port after it and I have set it to allow both TCP and UDP, as I didn?t know which it used. I have also tried setting the hostname to my external IP address rather than a domain, and have even tried linking the port to a bound address, nothing. In fact if I specify a bind-address it actually comes up with an error when starting the server itself. Cheers. Damien. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffares.robert at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 21:31:15 2016 From: jeffares.robert at gmail.com (Robert Jeffares) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:31:15 +1200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <579290A3.5090904@gmail.com> Hi Alan, Icecast set up is almost too easy: heres the checklist Give your server a fixed IP In Windows this is easy and there are plenty of help files. Make sure you get the DNS number right. Various modem routers default to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254 or variants of 10.x.x.x in a console [ black screen with c:> under accessories] type ipconfig to see what you have now. On your router set up port fowarding so the outside world connects to your router on x.x.x.x and port 8000 is fowarded to the fixed IP of your server. You can get in to your router by typing 192.168.1.1 [or whatever it is] in a browser and the username admin password admin for 99% of the time. Configure icecast.xml as below; this is from a linux server but basically it's the same putsomethinginhere youremail at somewhere/admin> 100 <--- note increases on defaults 20 15 524288 30 15 10 1 65535 somepassword somepassword admin somepassword 192.168.0.30 <-- this is where you put the server "name" 8000 <-- the comment the line out 8004 1 /usr/share/icecast2 /var/log/icecast2 /usr/share/icecast2/web /usr/share/icecast2/admin access.log error.log 3 10000 <-- not sure what happens in windows but the default will work 0 This should help regards Robert -- *Communication Consultants* 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 09 8176358 0221693124 06 650 6087 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjudd at illinois.edu Fri Jul 22 21:01:23 2016 From: tjudd at illinois.edu (Judd, Taylor Allen) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:01:23 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Log visualization Message-ID: Is anyone doing anything fun with their logs? Visualizing it for non-technical folks? Trying to find a way to analyze unique listeners, start/stop time, length listened to on average, potentially even broken down by hour. I've played around with awstats, goaccess.io even tablaue. So far without a lot of heavy editing I've yet to get anything solid and even then it's not that great. Most the tools I've found are focused on web logs, not streaming services. Other successes in this area? Avenues of approach I haven't considered? Thanks, Taylor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Fri Jul 22 21:40:52 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:40:52 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: >Hi Alan, Best direct it to: Damien Hi... anyway -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wlEmoticon-smile[1].png Type: image/png Size: 1046 bytes Desc: not available URL: From epirat07 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 21:58:37 2016 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:58:37 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: <57928B38.80605@gmail.com> References: <57928B38.80605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ABE592E-94B2-4D0D-BDB7-DC31E77A8235@gmail.com> On 22 Jul 2016, at 23:08, Robert Jeffares wrote: > On 23/07/16 08:31, Alan Bowness wrote: >> The only other thing I can think of is the hostname in the main >> >> section, but that is set to my domain address, not to localhost or >> any IP >> address, local or otherwise > hostname should be the 'name' of your host computer. I use ip address > so hostname = 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x or whatever your network uses > make sure your computer has a FIXED not a DYNAMIC IP address. Actually, is he wants to use his Icecast instance from the Internet, the hostname SHOULD NOT be set to internal IP (like 192.168.x.x or 10.0.0.x). But generally this does not matter for connecting from the outside. That is not affected at all by the hostname configured. It's important for some things on the web interface and the playlists to work properly and especially for yellow page (Icecast directory) listings, so it's important it's set correct but does not impact the ability to connect to the server. > > On your router you need to set up port forwarding so that the outside > world looking at your modem/router address on port 8000 is directed to > the host running Icecast . > > If you get stuck; post your icecast.xml > > regards > > Robert > > -- > *Communication Consultants* > 64 Warner Park Avenue > > Laingholm > > Auckland 0604 > > 09 8176358 > > 0221693124 > > 06 650 6087 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From epirat07 at gmail.com Fri Jul 22 22:03:15 2016 From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 00:03:15 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 22 Jul 2016, at 23:12, Alan Bowness wrote: > I use a few raspberry pi?s and leave the icecast settings as > localhost, and run darkice on the same Pi, I have let the router know > to pass requests to port 8000 to the IP of the Pi. > Using your external IP is not right, if your server is say > 192.168.1.21 thats the port forward, just be sure that the ports you > use are in the router too, udp/tcp I use both myself watch for typos. The hostname should be set to the external hostname of the server, NOT the internal IP (like 192.168.x.x) unless you only use Icecast in your private network and do not want to use it from the internet. > > I think you are looking into it too far, its basic really, sometimes I > find rebooting the router (depends on type) will open the ports after > a config change within the router, find its system settings in router, > and use the reboot option if you can find it, else a cold boot ? > switch it off for 30sec. > > Regards > > From: Damien Sykes-Lindley > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:54 PM > To: Icecast streaming server user discussions > Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle > > Hi Alan, > In actual fact, I?m having to test everything (server, streamer and > player) on the same machine, which is configured in my router to be > the server. I have opened the port specified in my config and the port > after it and I have set it to allow both TCP and UDP, as I didn?t > know which it used. > I have also tried setting the hostname to my external IP address > rather than a domain, and have even tried linking the port to a bound > address, nothing. In fact if I specify a bind-address it actually > comes up with an error when starting the server itself. > Cheers. > Damien. > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From awi3 at live.com Fri Jul 22 22:31:23 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:31:23 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: I use it for streaming 24/7/365 on the WAN ? no issues at all in using the default ?localhost?, sometimes I may use the LAN assigned IP too. Though it is just a constant stream, no tunes or play lists are used here. So I have no experience with that, though port forwarding is part of my day job in regard to anything ?servers?. I still think it?s a simple forwarding/addressing thing, else wouldn't have chipped in, though I do like to try now and then. You did not explain why ?The hostname should be set to the external hostname of the server, NOT the internal IP (like 192.168.x.x) unless you only use Icecast in your private network and do not want to use it from the internet? It?s not constructive at all, to me, or anyone who does not comprehend the reasons why one should NOT do that. BTW, Damien has the issue, not me. Be nice to know why I should not do what I do, do, with my Pi?s though Regards From: Marvin Scholz Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:03 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle On 22 Jul 2016, at 23:12, Alan Bowness wrote: > I use a few raspberry pi?s and leave the icecast settings as > localhost, and run darkice on the same Pi, I have let the router know The hostname should be set to the external hostname of the server, NOT the internal IP (like 192.168.x.x) unless you only use Icecast in your private network and do not want to use it from the internet. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The hostname has to be ' the buck stops here' and the ip address of the host is preferable because M$ name resolution is not 100% perfect and it's one less thing to go wrong. The external IP address of your modem/router is a waypoint. I have also found that regardless of any instructions this is what you have to do to get it to work. In this instance the network runs both Windows and Linux machines to enable end users to us the software they prefer, while Linux does the heavy lifting. Each router is set to point external clients on port 8000 or 8004 to one or other of the servers on port 8000. One of our external clients is a streaming server, four others are repeaters of the programme. We have a main and a fall back option at each client location. I have 5 possibly 6 Icecast servers all configured the same. The IP address of the host is used in the setting. regards Robert Jeffares -- *Communication Consultants* 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 09 8176358 0221693124 06 650 6087 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thatjackelliott at kpov.org Sat Jul 23 00:48:18 2016 From: thatjackelliott at kpov.org (that Jack Elliott) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:48:18 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast source client on Raspberry Pi? Message-ID: <13003daa-10d8-2793-71be-96c3d495d9fb@kpov.org> Anyone know if there is any code for a Raspberry Pi to use it as a source client? -- Jack Elliott Producer, The Point Wednesday Host, The Sunday Classics KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio kpov.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From un at aporee.org Sat Jul 23 07:30:32 2016 From: un at aporee.org (unosonic) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:30:32 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] Icecast source client on Raspberry Pi? In-Reply-To: <13003daa-10d8-2793-71be-96c3d495d9fb@kpov.org> References: <13003daa-10d8-2793-71be-96c3d495d9fb@kpov.org> Message-ID: <20160723073032.GA6606@aporee.org> that Jack Elliott: > Anyone know if there is any code for a Raspberry Pi to use it as a > source client? for live / line in from your sound device, just install darkice https://stmllr.net/blog/live-mp3-streaming-from-audio-in-with-darkice-and-icecast2-on-raspberry-pi/ /u From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 08:39:21 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:39:21 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: <57928B38.80605@gmail.com> References: <57928B38.80605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9E9D85C839334EE18DC2661986D23214@Psycheman> Hi all, OK, this stuff about internal and external IP addresses is confusing me. I always thought that an internal IP address (192.168.x.x) was for running things on a network, and an external for running things on the internet. I use 192.168.1.254 to log into my router and have forwarded port 28888 (8000 is already being used by another server I?m running) for Icecast, as specified in the section. The router doesn?t ask me for an IP address, but instead gives me a list of connected machines. My config file is below. Wherever contact home.dayme.me 100 2 524288 30 15 10 65535 blah whatever admin ahem-ahem 28888
1 ./log ./web ./admin access.log error.log 3 10000 1 Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 09:01:57 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:01:57 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: Confused me for ages.. until one day! Which out of the listed machines (on the router) is the one you are needing the port forwarded to? Forward that machine to the port you require, I would have used a lower port number 8010 or another unused port. From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:39 AM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi all, OK, this stuff about internal and external IP addresses is confusing me. I always thought that an internal IP address (192.168.x.x) was for running things on a network, and an external for running things on the internet. I use 192.168.1.254 to log into my router and have forwarded port 28888 (8000 is already being used by another server I?m running) for Icecast, as specified in the section. The router doesn?t ask me for an IP address, but instead gives me a list of connected machines. My config file is below. Wherever contact home.dayme.me 100 2 524288 30 15 10 65535 blah whatever admin ahem-ahem 28888
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Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 09:34:22 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:34:22 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: Hi Damien (where Dan come from??) I use 81.174.146.88:28888 Bet your router does not have loopback So if you are using sam broadcaster it needs the icecast settings input to it, so it can forward to the icecast server. If you use the local IP address of the icecast server you will see what I see. Regards From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 10:29 AM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, Very interesting indeed. What URL are you looking at the status from? I?ve tried home.dayme.me:28888, 81.174.146.88:28888, when I am streaming I even tried the /mountpointname at the end, and all I keep getting is: Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 81.174.146.88:28888. If it?s working your end, that suggests that it is a problem trying to log in with the same machine. Bizarre. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 09:38:58 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:38:58 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4175F724ECA54B09999FE99CDC8D813B@Psycheman> Hi there, It?s not Dan, it?s Dayme, shortened version of Damien. I didn?t want to use Dame for obvious reasons. I think the encoder is set to broadcast on localhost. I tried to set my encoders to home.dayme.me but it wouldn?t connect. I?m streaming now, just me talking and trying to sort this out. What do you mean about not having loopback? I can access all my other servers through my domain, just not this one. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffares.robert at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 09:42:14 2016 From: jeffares.robert at gmail.com (Robert Jeffares) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:42:14 +1200 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <466e03e0-d101-6cbf-b278-8145d3ac2026@gmail.com> I can see it from here. I should be able to mount a stream on it The way you have it set up the stream on the same machine can't mount that address. The port is being hogged by the router for router server only [ no local loopback ] Use the machine IP and it wil work. R On 23/07/16 21:34, Alan Bowness wrote: > Hi Damien (where Dan come from??) > I use 81.174.146.88:28888 > Bet your router does not have loopback > So if you are using sam broadcaster it needs the icecast settings > input to it, so it can forward to the icecast server. > If you use the local IP address of the icecast server you will see > what I see. > Regards > *From:* Damien Sykes-Lindley > *Sent:* Saturday, July 23, 2016 10:29 AM > *To:* Icecast streaming server user discussions > *Subject:* Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle > Hi Alan, > Very interesting indeed. What URL are you looking at the status from? > I?ve tried home.dayme.me:28888, 81.174.146.88:28888, when I am > streaming I even tried the /mountpointname at the end, and all I keep > getting is: > Unable to connect > Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 81.174.146.88:28888. > If it?s working your end, that suggests that it is a problem trying to > log in with the same machine. Bizarre. > Cheers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -- *Communication Consultants* 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 09 8176358 0221693124 06 650 6087 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 09:53:50 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 10:53:50 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: <466e03e0-d101-6cbf-b278-8145d3ac2026@gmail.com> References: <466e03e0-d101-6cbf-b278-8145d3ac2026@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6FC6B4C566604CED925E4454E890E3BA@Psycheman> Hi, I still don?t get what you mean about this loopback thing. I can access all my other available servers through either localhost or home.dayme.me. Are you saying that Icecast works slightly differently so can?t recognise this from the same machine it?s broadcasting from? Or is there a way to allow this somehow? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 10:37:28 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 11:37:28 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: I think some fundamental misunderstanding thing is perhaps going on. What is the icecast server that I can see here: http://home.dayme.me:28888 supposed to be streaming? And If you use the local IP of that icecast server on another local machine (or same machine) can you then see the admin page? Go back to first line: What is the icecast server that I can see here: http://home.dayme.me:28888 supposed to be streaming? Configure the thing that is sending info to this icecast server, and test locally again. Worry about port forwarding later (not that this is an issue at all) I?m fair at networking and have quite a bit of experience configuring icecast to work with darkice only. Regards From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 10:53 AM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi, I still don?t get what you mean about this loopback thing. I can access all my other available servers through either localhost or home.dayme.me. Are you saying that Icecast works slightly differently so can?t recognise this from the same machine it?s broadcasting from? Or is there a way to allow this somehow? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 10:48:34 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 11:48:34 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, I am not currently streaming anything. Every now and then when I want to test something I?ll simply stream myself there with a mic pondering over things. When this is the case I can connect to the stream locally (through localhost) with no issue. Same for the server webpage. Again, though, I can only connect to the stream through the browser and not my media player. But I can?t connect at all through home.dayme.me or my external IP address. This is what confuses me. You can connect through my domain and external IP. I can connect through localhost. But why can?t I connect through my domain or external IP? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 11:00:26 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:00:26 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No loopback on router, try connecting via 3G to see. If there's no stream going to Icecast no media player can play nothing. Firewall? Try switching it off for a few minutes and test. You will get there! Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Jul 2016, at 11:49, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote: > > Hi Alan, > I am not currently streaming anything. Every now and then when I want to test something I?ll simply stream myself there with a mic pondering over things. When this is the case I can connect to the stream locally (through localhost) with no issue. Same for the server webpage. Again, though, I can only connect to the stream through the browser and not my media player. But I can?t connect at all through home.dayme.me or my external IP address. > This is what confuses me. You can connect through my domain and external IP. I can connect through localhost. But why can?t I connect through my domain or external IP? > Cheers. > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 11:28:01 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:28:01 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, OK. The only thing I still don?t understand now is this router loopback thing. If my router has no loopback, why does Icecast need this when other servers don?t? What does it do? Is loopback something that can be enabled/disabled? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 11:38:02 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 12:38:02 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: No, you can?t configure that loopback. if the other machines work using an external address it must be something else. What mount point name are you using? I still think you are very close to realising the issue. I?m here for a while, and will help you if you need it. remote desktop if you need. Regards From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 12:28 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, OK. The only thing I still don?t understand now is this router loopback thing. If my router has no loopback, why does Icecast need this when other servers don?t? What does it do? Is loopback something that can be enabled/disabled? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 12:03:16 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:03:16 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, OK. I am now streaming on mountpoint /blah. I?m not streaming music just yet, but if the stream works you should hear me typing and other stuff. Life in my living room, if you like. I still don?t understand why Icecast needs loopback when other servers don?t. Here?s an example: I have an SCM system, Fossil server running on port 80 and 8000. I can access repositories on that server by either localhost/repo or home.dayme.me/repo. I have an FTP server which, again, I can access on ftp://localhost or ftp://home.dayme.me. Why can?t I do the same thing on Icecast? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 12:08:04 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:08:04 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: i hear you and you realising you can hear yourself congrats From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:03 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, OK. I am now streaming on mountpoint /blah. I?m not streaming music just yet, but if the stream works you should hear me typing and other stuff. Life in my living room, if you like. I still don?t understand why Icecast needs loopback when other servers don?t. Here?s an example: I have an SCM system, Fossil server running on port 80 and 8000. I can access repositories on that server by either localhost/repo or home.dayme.me/repo. I have an FTP server which, again, I can access on ftp://localhost or ftp://home.dayme.me. Why can?t I do the same thing on Icecast? Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 12:12:29 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:12:29 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <229819EAAA5B49468B66E300266869BE@Psycheman> Hi Alan, Yes. But that?s only locally. My router is going to let me into my own servers locally anyway. What I want to be able to do is try and connect through home.dayme.me because, if for whatever reason anything happens, I?ll then know that maybe there?s a problem with my domain, or my ports have been reset, etc etc. At the moment I can?t check any of that because I can only connect through localhost. Sorry about this. But I really want to get this sorted if at all possible. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 12:17:03 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:17:03 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: I?m listening to you both, Its working, but not for you locally, could be a firewall issue on your PC? perhaps changing the port to 8010? If other servers can be seen on the WAN from your internal network it could be a port conflict, or firewall issue. Alan From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:12 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, Yes. But that?s only locally. My router is going to let me into my own servers locally anyway. What I want to be able to do is try and connect through home.dayme.me because, if for whatever reason anything happens, I?ll then know that maybe there?s a problem with my domain, or my ports have been reset, etc etc. At the moment I can?t check any of that because I can only connect through localhost. Sorry about this. But I really want to get this sorted if at all possible. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damien at dcpendleton.plus.com Sat Jul 23 12:37:43 2016 From: damien at dcpendleton.plus.com (Damien Sykes-Lindley) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:37:43 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, All firewalls are switched off and I?ve changed the port to 8010. Still can?t access it from the global IP or domain name. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awi3 at live.com Sat Jul 23 12:41:54 2016 From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:41:54 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Message-ID: email me direct to free up the forum awi3 at live.com I?ll chat with you on skype if you need to, but you were working fine, don?t worry about not being able to see yourself on the WAN just for now From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:37 PM To: Icecast streaming server user discussions Subject: Re: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle Hi Alan, All firewalls are switched off and I?ve changed the port to 8010. Still can?t access it from the global IP or domain name. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abitar.com at gmail.com Sat Jul 23 13:17:22 2016 From: abitar.com at gmail.com (David Saunders) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:17:22 -0400 Subject: [Icecast] Config and other areas of struggle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey, Can you access the status/admin page? When we have clients or sources who having issue with connecting to our server we have them in the browser see if they can access this page. This will show if or if not there an connection issue in the network. The bigest issue we have is the client/source sides have firewall setup blocking the connection. one thing you can do use a a vpn like tunnelBear(i suggested this since it free and install on many platforms) and check the connection back to your network from outside of your network. If your local connection is working the vpn connection should would work. unless your router has an firewall issue of some kind. some routers do not do a local loop back to the external ip and some will l loop it back before firewall rules are applied! firewall can be in the server and on any the routers it has to go through. Simple debug track: using the admin/status page http://:8000/ in your favorite web browser. 1> check localhost ( connection from the server computer ) using internal ip -- Mainly checks to see if the server is available 2> check local network ( from another machine other then the server) using local ip. -- checks to see if you can access out the server. ( check server firewall if fails, or make sure server icecast is listening to the right network, check the client compute for connection issues). 3> check external connection ( from a computer/connection external to your network) using the public IP and if needed the public name. -- This If your using a external connection( is a vpn or dial up ) you should have a direct connection back to the public ip and the issue would be in the router OR YOUR ISP is not allowing it. Check make sure the public name is working , it could be the DNS is messed up some how or your dynamic DNS is not updating. --OR you can go to a another next work external from you network, most external networks that are public access do not block port 8000/8001 I have found but some private ones will. Business and some schools who only allow a very restrictive range. if you use ping/traceroute, your router has to be setup to replies to these commands. It become common place to block this tool for fear of DOS attacks. I went over board on my description so someone having issues in the future with connections issues can work on it. This is how I track down issues when out server having issue wit client/source connections. Pardon my interruption if I was to far off subject. On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Damien Sykes-Lindley < damien at dcpendleton.plus.com> wrote: > Hi Alan, > All firewalls are switched off and I?ve changed the port to 8010. Still > can?t access it from the global IP or domain name. > Cheers. > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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