From sm at noisynotes.com  Mon Oct  5 13:39:15 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:39:15 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
Message-ID: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>

If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
Icecast?


From sm at noisynotes.com  Mon Oct  5 13:40:13 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:40:13 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Replacement for Lidquidsoap
In-Reply-To: <CAJ8tkjjCz-o==OCfhrVSRVQVhTCuOfm3niTnERr-GNwSQZVgTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6s4o0bdlr9mvmmiab9glopjstf8nhnk9no@4ax.com>
	<CAJ8tkjjCz-o==OCfhrVSRVQVhTCuOfm3niTnERr-GNwSQZVgTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ddv41blgf2qu11a57l9fuj4i2spgsq5obv@4ax.com>

Wow. How did I miss that on the downloads table? Thanks!

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:20:59 -0700, you wrote:

>Steve,
>
>The latest release of liquidsoap (1.1.1) was released on 2013-05-08.
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/savonet/files/liquidsoap/1.1.1/liquidsoap-1.1.1-full.tar.gz/download
>
>
>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Steve Matzura <sm at noisynotes.com> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend any program newer than the last release of
>> Liquidsoap, which, unless I misread the page, was in 2007?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>


From sm at noisynotes.com  Mon Oct  5 13:46:34 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:46:34 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Replacement for Lidquidsoap
In-Reply-To: <560C306F.80400@gmail.com>
References: <6s4o0bdlr9mvmmiab9glopjstf8nhnk9no@4ax.com>
	<560C306F.80400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5iv41btgbkjim2btlbj8cdj4c7tfub3fou@4ax.com>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 21:56:47 +0300, you wrote:

>perhaps ices?
>http://icecast.org/ices/

I've been an ices user since 2009 and like it a lot. But since the
newer versions don't support MP3 format files any more, I can no
longer use it. Everything my stream does is in MP3 format. I do,
however, use IcesCC, or is it called IcecastCC, I forget which, which
does support MP3 formatted audio streams but not cue sheets. It's the
cue-sheet capability I really need.


From geoff at QuiteLikely.com  Mon Oct  5 13:41:08 2015
From: geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:

> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
> Icecast?

No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.

Geoff.



From robert at webtent.org  Mon Oct  5 17:15:46 2015
From: robert at webtent.org (Robert Fitzpatrick)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:15:46 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Select mp3 files not playing Chrome
Message-ID: <5612B042.7020906@webtent.org>

I am new to the list and Icecast, a web developer and I support a local 
non-profit radio station who recently lost their engineer handling 
stream recordings using Icecast/Darkice. All has been fine and I have 
now a bit of experience with doing the recent schedule changes, only 
updated cron jobs, but familiarized myself with streamripper being used 
for recordings. I do manage the ruby scripts that name the files, add to 
the web db and publish the files to a web server for listening via our 
website jPlayer plugin. Our typical streamripper cron command looks like 
this:

/usr/bin/streamripper http://127.0.0.1:8001/archive -d 
/var/mp3/`/bin/date +%u_%H` -s -z -a -l 3600 -m 30 > /dev/null 2>&1

We publish files throughout the day in hourly segments, but for the last 
several weeks, we have been experiencing issues with playback of these 
mp3 files in Google Chrome on Windows. We have been producing these 
files for years, now half or more of them being produced do not play, 
even old ones from 2 years ago that used to play fine. First recognized 
the issue when the website refused to play many of the files on Windows, 
then tried accessing the files directly from the web server archive 
index to play directly in the browser. The browser player appears but 
never starts playing and reports the wrong time for the files with the 
issue. I've tried on Linux and Apple devices using Chrome and the files 
play fine without the problem. After downloading one of the files, 
opening in Adobe Audition and saving in VBR format, then uploading back 
to the server, it played fine.

After reading other posts similar to our issue, we have tried changing 
the format from using CBR to VBR in darkice.cfg, but issue persists. 
I've also tried uploading a recorded file with the issue to another web 
server running Nginx, same issue with playing file in Chrome on Windows 
via the web server. The recordings continue to produce files that both 
play and at least half do not play. Before we continue to try changes, I 
wanted to check here to see if anyone else has seen this issue or been 
able to resolve?

The mount point in darkice.cfg file looks like this:

[icecast2-1]
format          = mp3
bitrateMode     = cbr
bitrate         = 128
quality         = 0.9
server          = localhost
mountPoint      = archive
port            = 8001
password        = <<pass>>
name            = Archiver Stream
description     = Dedicated archiving stream.
url             = <<url>>
genre           = <<genre>>
public          = no

-- 
Robert



From epirat07 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  5 18:21:29 2015
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 20:21:29 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Select mp3 files not playing Chrome
In-Reply-To: <5612B042.7020906@webtent.org>
References: <5612B042.7020906@webtent.org>
Message-ID: <23D755AC-4CDB-42D0-AC06-B1AD4333F5F3@gmail.com>

On 5 Oct 2015, at 19:15, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Our typical streamripper cron command looks like
> this:
>
> /usr/bin/streamripper http://127.0.0.1:8001/archive -d
> /var/mp3/`/bin/date +%u_%H` -s -z -a -l 3600 -m 30 > /dev/null 2>&1
>
> We publish files throughout the day in hourly segments, but for the 
> last
> several weeks, we have been experiencing issues with playback of these
> mp3 files in Google Chrome on Windows.

Welcome on the List! If you experience those issues even with older 
files it is
most likely a problem with Chrome or with the webserver settings.

Especially if you use a streamripper, Icecast is mostly out of the 
business as it
just passes the stream through and doesn't really touches the mp3 except 
doing
icy metadata but that should not cause issues for the streamripper as it 
doesn't get that
data unless it specifically asks for it.

It would help if you could provide a link to a file which is causing 
problems.


From robert at webtent.org  Mon Oct  5 19:05:08 2015
From: robert at webtent.org (Robert Fitzpatrick)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:05:08 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Select mp3 files not playing Chrome
In-Reply-To: <23D755AC-4CDB-42D0-AC06-B1AD4333F5F3@gmail.com>
References: <5612B042.7020906@webtent.org>
	<23D755AC-4CDB-42D0-AC06-B1AD4333F5F3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5612C9E4.5090604@webtent.org>

Marvin Scholz wrote:
> Welcome on the List! If you experience those issues even with older
> files it is
> most likely a problem with Chrome or with the webserver settings.
>
> Especially if you use a streamripper, Icecast is mostly out of the
> business as it
> just passes the stream through and doesn't really touches the mp3 except
> doing
> icy metadata but that should not cause issues for the streamripper as it
> doesn't get that
> data unless it specifically asks for it.
>
> It would help if you could provide a link to a file which is causing
> problems.

Thanks for confirming, hadn't received an answer from a Chrome list yet, 
thought I'd try here. This is one of the files....

http://sound.wmnf.org/sound/wmnf_151005_110617_radioactivityM1_348.MP3

-- 
Robert



From sm at noisynotes.com  Wed Oct  7 22:53:25 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 18:53:25 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
Message-ID: <qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>

Got'ny good ideas for doing that then? I want to connect to a stream
for restreaming, for lack of a better term.

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST), you wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
>
>> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
>> Icecast?
>
>No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.
>
>Geoff.
>
>_______________________________________________
>Icecast mailing list
>Icecast at xiph.org
>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Thu Oct  8 06:20:47 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:20:47 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,


On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 18:53 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> Got'ny good ideas for doing that then? I want to connect to a stream
> for restreaming, for lack of a better term.

Why don't you just use something like this?:
wget -O - $URL | oggfwd $HOST $PORT $PW $MOUNT


> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >
> >> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
> >> Icecast?
> >
> >No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.
> >
> >Geoff.
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Icecast mailing list
> >Icecast at xiph.org
> >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From sm at noisynotes.com  Thu Oct  8 14:09:15 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:09:15 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
	<20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:20:47 +0000, Philipp Schafft
<lion at lion.leolix.org> wrote:

>Why don't you just use something like this?:
>wget -O - $URL | oggfwd $HOST $PORT $PW $MOUNT

OK, sounds like what I need. Questions:

1. $URL is the stream URL?
2. $HOST, $PORT and $MOUNT are the obvious things?
3. oggfwd ... is there a version of this for mp3 instead since that's
what my server broadcasts with?


From sm at noisynotes.com  Thu Oct  8 18:52:16 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:52:16 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
	<20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <vked1bhge257gi29b9ra7jb7lncohqbe6b@4ax.com>

Additional to my earlier post, I was also thinking of a single
broadcast relay, but it's not possible to start it and stop it on
demand. One way around this might be to load a special Icecast XML
with the relay in it at the program's broadcast time, then reload the
regular one when the relayed program ends. Klugey, but it could work I
suppose.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:20:47 +0000, you wrote:

>Good morning,
>
>
>On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 18:53 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> Got'ny good ideas for doing that then? I want to connect to a stream
>> for restreaming, for lack of a better term.
>
>Why don't you just use something like this?:
>wget -O - $URL | oggfwd $HOST $PORT $PW $MOUNT
>
>
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
>> 
>> >On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> >
>> >> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
>> >> Icecast?
>> >
>> >No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.
>> >
>> >Geoff.
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Icecast mailing list
>> >Icecast at xiph.org
>> >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Fri Oct  9 06:16:36 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 06:16:36 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <g3uc1b9dhianc8ng50ppb9oqkcu86ovqnn@4ax.com>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
	<20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<g3uc1b9dhianc8ng50ppb9oqkcu86ovqnn@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <20151009061640.77679128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 10:09 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:20:47 +0000, Philipp Schafft
> <lion at lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> 
> >Why don't you just use something like this?:
> >wget -O - $URL | oggfwd $HOST $PORT $PW $MOUNT
> 
> OK, sounds like what I need. Questions:
> 
> 1. $URL is the stream URL?

Yes, this is the URL of the stream you want to relay.

> 2. $HOST, $PORT and $MOUNT are the obvious things?

Yes.


> 3. oggfwd ... is there a version of this for mp3 instead since that's
> what my server broadcasts with?

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know as I don't care for MP3 at all.
Also it's not officially supported.

Have a nice day! :)

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Fri Oct  9 09:05:05 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:05:05 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <vked1bhge257gi29b9ra7jb7lncohqbe6b@4ax.com>
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Message-ID: <20151009090516.3213A128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

reflum,

On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 14:52 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> Additional to my earlier post, I was also thinking of a single
> broadcast relay, but it's not possible to start it and stop it on
> demand. One way around this might be to load a special Icecast XML
> with the relay in it at the program's broadcast time, then reload the
> regular one when the relayed program ends. Klugey, but it could work I
> suppose.

Hm.
I think you should go with fallbacks. At least you would not need to
change the config and stuff (and lose listener in case something doesn't
work (e.g. network hiccup between provider and relay)).

What is the trigger source for you to change to the other stream?


> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:20:47 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> >Good morning,
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 18:53 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> Got'ny good ideas for doing that then? I want to connect to a stream
> >> for restreaming, for lack of a better term.
> >
> >Why don't you just use something like this?:
> >wget -O - $URL | oggfwd $HOST $PORT $PW $MOUNT
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
> >> >> Icecast?
> >> >
> >> >No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.
> >> >
> >> >Geoff.
> >> >
> >> >_______________________________________________
> >> >Icecast mailing list
> >> >Icecast at xiph.org
> >> >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From sm at noisynotes.com  Fri Oct  9 14:42:09 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:42:09 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <20151009090516.3213A128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:05:05 +0000, you wrote:

>reflum,
>
>On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 14:52 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> Additional to my earlier post, I was also thinking of a single
>> broadcast relay, but it's not possible to start it and stop it on
>> demand. One way around this might be to load a special Icecast XML
>> with the relay in it at the program's broadcast time, then reload the
>> regular one when the relayed program ends. Klugey, but it could work I
>> suppose.
>
>Hm.
>I think you should go with fallbacks. At least you would not need to
>change the config and stuff (and lose listener in case something doesn't
>work (e.g. network hiccup between provider and relay)).

Good thought.

>What is the trigger source for you to change to the other stream?

Just a timed program, starts streaming at a certain time, stops when
it's over.


From sm at noisynotes.com  Sat Oct 10 20:43:43 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:43:43 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
Message-ID: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>

Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type,
such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a
streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format
stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or anything
else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted?


From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net  Sat Oct 10 22:19:01 2015
From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:19:01 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
In-Reply-To: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
References: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <56198ED5.4070407@logicalnetworking.net>

Hi Steve, Icecast simply passes the stream through unconverted. You'd
want to employ something that will convert the stream for you before it
hits Icecast.


Cheers,
Jordan


On 10/10/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type,
> such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a
> streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format
> stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or anything
> else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted?
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From dennis at heerema.net  Sat Oct 10 22:50:28 2015
From: dennis at heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 00:50:28 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
In-Reply-To: <56198ED5.4070407@logicalnetworking.net>
References: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
	<56198ED5.4070407@logicalnetworking.net>
Message-ID: <721d744e-37ef-4b0e-8078-38a3305245ac@heerema.net>

Hi Steve,

I think you are able to do what you want with liquidsoap.

Regards,

Dennis

Verzonden vanaf mijn Cyanogen-telefoon
Op 11 okt. 2015 12:19 AM schreef Jordan Erickson <jerickson at logicalnetworking.net>:
>
> Hi Steve, Icecast simply passes the stream through unconverted. You'd 
> want to employ something that will convert the stream for you before it 
> hits Icecast. 
>
>
> Cheers, 
> Jordan 
>
>
> On 10/10/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: 
> > Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type, 
> > such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a 
> > streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format 
> > stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or anything 
> > else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted? 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Icecast mailing list 
> > Icecast at xiph.org 
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast 
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From greg at indexcom.com  Sat Oct 10 22:57:24 2015
From: greg at indexcom.com (Greg Ogonowski)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:57:24 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
In-Reply-To: <721d744e-37ef-4b0e-8078-38a3305245ac@heerema.net>
References: <721d744e-37ef-4b0e-8078-38a3305245ac@heerema.net>
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That is transcoding.

If you are attempting to achieve good audio quality, this is exactly what you don?t want to do.

This is like taking a .jpg and making another .jpg from it.

/greg.

 

 

From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Heerema
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Hi Steve,

I think you are able to do what you want with liquidsoap.

Regards,

Dennis

Verzonden vanaf mijn Cyanogen-telefoon
Op 11 okt. 2015 12:19 AM schreef Jordan Erickson <jerickson at logicalnetworking.net>:
>
> Hi Steve, Icecast simply passes the stream through unconverted. You'd 
> want to employ something that will convert the stream for you before it 
> hits Icecast. 
>
>
> Cheers, 
> Jordan 
>
>
> On 10/10/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: 
> > Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type, 
> > such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a 
> > streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format 
> > stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or anything 
> > else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted? 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Icecast mailing list 
> > Icecast at xiph.org 
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast 
>
> _______________________________________________ 
> Icecast mailing list 
> Icecast at xiph.org 
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast 
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From dennis at heerema.net  Sat Oct 10 23:02:29 2015
From: dennis at heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 01:02:29 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
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I Agree!


Dennis


Op 11-10-2015 om 00:57 schreef Greg Ogonowski:
>
> That is transcoding.
>
> If you are attempting to achieve good audio quality, this is exactly
> what you don?t want to do.
>
> This is like taking a .jpg and making another .jpg from it.
>
> /greg.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:*icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Dennis Heerema
> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 October, 2015 15:50
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> Hi Steve,
>
> I think you are able to do what you want with liquidsoap.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis
>
> Verzonden vanaf mijn Cyanogen-telefoon
> Op 11 okt. 2015 12:19 AM schreef Jordan Erickson
> <jerickson at logicalnetworking.net
> <mailto:jerickson at logicalnetworking.net>>:
> >
> > Hi Steve, Icecast simply passes the stream through unconverted. You'd
> > want to employ something that will convert the stream for you before it
> > hits Icecast.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jordan
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> > > Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type,
> > > such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a
> > > streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format
> > > stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or
> anything
> > > else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Icecast mailing list
> > > Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
> > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
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From kloschi at subsignal.org  Sun Oct 11 09:46:56 2015
From: kloschi at subsignal.org (kloschi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:46:56 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
In-Reply-To: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
References: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <d2b7f9f8b3a2cee1fb37f0d53ec3349e@fdmbx.net>

Am 10.10.2015 21:43, schrieb Steve Matzura:
> Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type,
> such as OGG, regardless of the source or input?

This is impossible as Icecast just passes the source stream through.

One already mentioned possibility to achieve your goal would be
liquidsoap. The other one - I am using since a very long time reliably
- is streamTranscoder v3 from former oddsock.org.

Sadly oddsock has been shut down a couple of years ago, but the software
is still available, e.g. here: 
http://dl.audioaddictz.com/Broadcast_Tools/

StreamTranscoder v3 can be configured to listen to specific mount 
points,
recode the stream on the fly and serve it to another icecast mount 
point.

I am using hq ogg streams as "master" source (160kb/s or 192kb/s) and
recode those to lower .ogg bitrates as well as mp3 in various bitrates.
It works very well and stable on my Debian and Ubuntu based icecast
servers.

hth,
.kloschi

-- 
"You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to
stop reading them. "
                                                                          
              -- Ray Bradbury


From camilocano146 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 12 05:55:43 2015
From: camilocano146 at gmail.com (Camilo Cano)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 00:55:43 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
Message-ID: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, im using Icecast to build a distributed service and I want to know, if
I can edit the icecast.xml while the server its running and the changes are
accepted, without having to restart the service.
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Mon Oct 12 06:40:24 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 06:40:24 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151012064028.B6D99128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

reflum,

On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 00:55 -0500, Camilo Cano wrote:
> Hey, im using Icecast to build a distributed service and I want to
> know, if I can edit the icecast.xml while the server its running

Sure. You can edit the file freely as long as Icecast is not reading it
in the very moment you write it.


> and the changes are accepted, without having to restart the service.

Sure. You just need to send SIGHUP. Init scripts may have a 'reload'
target for that.


btw. What parameters do you want to edit on the fly?

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From thatjackelliott at kpov.org  Mon Oct 12 14:16:05 2015
From: thatjackelliott at kpov.org (Jack Elliott 541 848 7021)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:16:05 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>

When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can edit 
icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart Icecast 
for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway. It's 
possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the 
changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.

-- 
that Jack Elliott
541 848 7021
Producer Wednesday Point, Host, The Sunday Classics
KPOV 88.9, High Desert Radio
Audio geek

On 10/11/2015 10:55 PM, Camilo Cano wrote:
> Hey, im using Icecast to build a distributed service and I want to 
> know, if I can edit the icecast.xml while the server its running and 
> the changes are accepted, without having to restart the service.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

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From lists at parisson.com  Mon Oct 12 19:56:49 2015
From: lists at parisson.com (Guillaume Pellerin)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:56:49 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <561C1081.6080306@parisson.com>

Hi,

DeeFuzzer can re-stream an URL:
https://github.com/yomguy/DeeFuzzer

cheers,
yomguy

Le 08/10/2015 00:53, Steve Matzura a ?crit :
> Got'ny good ideas for doing that then? I want to connect to a stream
> for restreaming, for lack of a better term.
>
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:41:08 +0100 (BST), you wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
>>
>>> If I put a URL in the M3U file, will EZStream stream it through
>>> Icecast?
>>
>> No.  EZStream is meant to be pretty basic.
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 


From lists at parisson.com  Mon Oct 12 19:58:02 2015
From: lists at parisson.com (Guillaume Pellerin)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:58:02 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Replacement for Lidquidsoap
In-Reply-To: <6s4o0bdlr9mvmmiab9glopjstf8nhnk9no@4ax.com>
References: <6s4o0bdlr9mvmmiab9glopjstf8nhnk9no@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <561C10CA.4060701@parisson.com>

Have a check to DeeFuzzer
https://github.com/yomguy/DeeFuzzer

;)
yomguy

Le 30/09/2015 18:54, Steve Matzura a ?crit :
> Can anyone recommend any program newer than the last release of
> Liquidsoap, which, unless I misread the page, was in 2007?
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Tue Oct 13 04:58:20 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:58:20 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <4gkf1b5su32f082og5bdnl62dtmn34i2bf@4ax.com>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
	<20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<vked1bhge257gi29b9ra7jb7lncohqbe6b@4ax.com>
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	<4gkf1b5su32f082og5bdnl62dtmn34i2bf@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <20151013045845.0F3D1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Fri, 2015-10-09 at 10:42 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:05:05 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> >reflum,
> >
> >On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 14:52 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> Additional to my earlier post, I was also thinking of a single
> >> broadcast relay, but it's not possible to start it and stop it on
> >> demand. One way around this might be to load a special Icecast XML
> >> with the relay in it at the program's broadcast time, then reload the
> >> regular one when the relayed program ends. Klugey, but it could work I
> >> suppose.
> >
> >Hm.
> >I think you should go with fallbacks. At least you would not need to
> >change the config and stuff (and lose listener in case something doesn't
> >work (e.g. network hiccup between provider and relay)).
> 
> Good thought.


> >What is the trigger source for you to change to the other stream?
> 
> Just a timed program, starts streaming at a certain time, stops when
> it's over.

Ok. Then I think we should go for fallbacks and some kind of active
rely. There have been some suggestions on such software on the mailing
list lately...

The documentation for fallbacks can be as part of the regular Icecast2
docs (e.g. on the website).

Have a nice day!

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Tue Oct 13 05:23:30 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
Message-ID: <20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.

Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
to let it re-read it with the current official version.
But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
software) on windows anyway.


-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Tue Oct 13 05:40:05 2015
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:40:05 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <002201d10579$9e309220$da91b660$@com>

Perhaps Icecast Server could listen for a WM_USER Windows message to
activate the same action as a SIGHUP on Linux.  It is simple to program.

-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Philipp Schafft
Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2015 6:24 p.m.
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

Good morning,

On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can 
> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart 
> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the 
> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.

Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a SIGHUP.
As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way to let it
re-read it with the current official version.
But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
software) on windows anyway.


--
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)




From kloschi at subsignal.org  Tue Oct 13 12:53:49 2015
From: kloschi at subsignal.org (kloschi)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Mplayer & Cache fill
Message-ID: <561CFEDD.8090205@subsignal.org>

Hi,


I just wondered, why mplayer is not able to use its cache properly, when
listening to my icecast streams.

Cache size set to 320 KiB
Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
Dead key input on file descriptor 0
Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
Detected file format: Audio only
Selected audio codec: MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 layers I, II, III [mpg123]
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)

Is that an expected behaviour or should mplayer be able to cache here?
Is that reproducable on your icecast setups? Might I have a config glitch?



thanks & greetz,
.k
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From thatjackelliott at kpov.org  Tue Oct 13 15:02:17 2015
From: thatjackelliott at kpov.org (Jack Elliott 541 848 7021)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:02:17 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <561D1CF9.6060000@kpov.org>


On 10/12/2015 10:23 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
>> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
>> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
>> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
>> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
>> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.
>
Thank you for the warning. Fortunately, it has been completely reliable 
for many months now. If we encounter trouble I'll set up a Linux box at 
the station to host the server.

-- 
that Jack Elliott


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Wed Oct 14 05:39:24 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 05:39:24 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <561D1CF9.6060000@kpov.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<561D1CF9.6060000@kpov.org>
Message-ID: <20151014053929.B928E128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning!

On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 08:02 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 10:23 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> > Good morning,
> >
> > On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> >> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> >> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> >> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> >> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> >> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
> > Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
> > SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
> > to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> > But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> > software) on windows anyway.
> >
> Thank you for the warning. Fortunately, it has been completely reliable 
> for many months now.

If it works for you just don't mind my *recommendation*.


> If we encounter trouble I'll set up a Linux box at 
> the station to host the server.

*nods*

Icecast2 itself can run fine on windows. The problem is that e.g. most
of the IPC features are disabled (e.g. this nice SIGHUP thing ;) as well
as windows can not handle a high amount of simultaneous clients. If you
go with 10 to 100 clients, sure, no problem. If you go higher you *may*
hit random (and non-obvious) bottlenecks.

Have a nice day and thank you for using Icecast2. :)

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Wed Oct 14 10:19:42 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:19:42 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Mplayer & Cache fill
In-Reply-To: <561CFEDD.8090205@subsignal.org>
References: <561CFEDD.8090205@subsignal.org>
Message-ID: <20151014101948.2AB2E128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 14:53 +0200, kloschi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I just wondered, why mplayer is not able to use its cache properly, when
> listening to my icecast streams.
> 
> Cache size set to 320 KiB
> Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
> Dead key input on file descriptor 0
> Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
> Detected file format: Audio only
> Selected audio codec: MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 layers I, II, III [mpg123]
> AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)
> 
> Is that an expected behaviour or should mplayer be able to cache here?
> Is that reproducable on your icecast setups? Might I have a config glitch?


This is a bit strange. Can you share the URL for that stream with us (or
with me privately) so I can have a look at the specific stream?

Have a nice day!


-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 12:23:29 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:23:29 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast on Raspberry Pi
Message-ID: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>

Is it possible to make Icecast run, for serving no more than 16 listeners, on Raspberry Pi? I simply want to dip my toe into the Linux universe, and this would be a fine excuse for me to try RP if it's doable. Thanks.

Jeremiah Rogers
Cell: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
Social Networking: /jzrogers



From un at aporee.org  Wed Oct 14 13:08:31 2015
From: un at aporee.org (unosonic)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:08:31 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
References: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151014130831.GA25087@aporee.org>



for a pi2, I'd say yes. It's quite powerful ;)
well, compared to the pi... no experience with icecast on pi though...
I'm using the pi2 for upstraming /w darkice and an usb mic, to a 
remote icecast2, that works fine w/o significat load.
--u



Jeremiah Rogers:
> Is it possible to make Icecast run, for serving no more than 16 listeners, on Raspberry Pi? I simply want to dip my toe into the Linux universe, and this would be a fine excuse for me to try RP if it's doable. Thanks.
> 
> Jeremiah Rogers
> Cell: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> Social Networking: /jzrogers
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Wed Oct 14 13:18:50 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:18:50 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
References: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151014131854.3A36A128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good afternoon,

On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 08:23 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> Is it possible to make Icecast run, for serving no more than 16
> listeners, on Raspberry Pi? I simply want to dip my toe into the Linux
> universe, and this would be a fine excuse for me to try RP if it's
> doable. Thanks.

the Raspberry Pi isn't exactly a powerful device. It is known for
limited IO power (which is relevant for Icecast2) and other shortages.

After saying that: the pi is actually a fully features system. I don't
see a problem beside the above for running Icecast2. I expect you to run
into the bottleneck of the Ethernet interface. I don't know what the
maximum throughput of the interface is but I'm interested in any load
test results. Running it with a few listeners is not a problem at all.
Many seem to do that.

Have fun!

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From awi3 at live.com  Wed Oct 14 14:41:33 2015
From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:41:33 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast on Raspberry Pi
In-Reply-To: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
References: <7FC02175-1A34-41EA-8E96-FF3AFC3599AB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB129-DS9E95AA6EC216FBDB27069EF3F0@phx.gbl>

I use raspberry pi, I have used icecast and darkice running at the same time 
on the B+ version, serving mp3 files.
Though CPU was running at 50% or there abouts never tried more than a few 
connections though.

Best thing to do, try it.

I used this link ages ago
https://stmllr.net/blog/live-mp3-streaming-from-audio-in-with-darkice-and-icecast2-on-raspberry-pi/

Seeya

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeremiah Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:23 PM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast on Raspberry Pi

Is it possible to make Icecast run, for serving no more than 16 listeners, 
on Raspberry Pi? I simply want to dip my toe into the Linux universe, and 
this would be a fine excuse for me to try RP if it's doable. Thanks.

Jeremiah Rogers
Cell: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
Social Networking: /jzrogers

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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Thu Oct 15 06:13:43 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 06:13:43 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <002201d10579$9e309220$da91b660$@com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<002201d10579$9e309220$da91b660$@com>
Message-ID: <20151015061345.E1075128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 18:40 +1300, Ross Levis wrote:
> Perhaps Icecast Server could listen for a WM_USER Windows message to
> activate the same action as a SIGHUP on Linux.  It is simple to program.

Thank you for your input. I will forward that to our windows guy. I have
no idea about windows myself.

Have a nice day!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
> Of Philipp Schafft
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2015 6:24 p.m.
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> > When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can 
> > edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart 
> > Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> > It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the 
> > changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
> 
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a SIGHUP.
> As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way to let it
> re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.
> 
> 
> --
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
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From thatjackelliott at kpov.org  Thu Oct 15 14:45:23 2015
From: thatjackelliott at kpov.org (Jack Elliott 541 848 7021)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:45:23 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151014053929.B928E128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<561D1CF9.6060000@kpov.org>
	<20151014053929.B928E128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <561FBC03.6060206@kpov.org>

Thank you!

On 10/13/2015 10:39 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> Good morning!
>
> On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 08:02 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 10:23 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
>>>> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
>>>> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
>>>> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
>>>> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
>>>> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
>>> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
>>> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
>>> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
>>> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
>>> software) on windows anyway.
>>>
>> Thank you for the warning. Fortunately, it has been completely reliable
>> for many months now.
> If it works for you just don't mind my *recommendation*.
>
>
>> If we encounter trouble I'll set up a Linux box at
>> the station to host the server.
> *nods*
>
> Icecast2 itself can run fine on windows. The problem is that e.g. most
> of the IPC features are disabled (e.g. this nice SIGHUP thing ;) as well
> as windows can not handle a high amount of simultaneous clients. If you
> go with 10 to 100 clients, sure, no problem. If you go higher you *may*
> hit random (and non-obvious) bottlenecks.
>
> Have a nice day and thank you for using Icecast2. :)
>
>
In our case, Icecast2 on Windows must handle at the most only two listen 
clients and one source-client. The source client is located remotely, at 
a music festival; one listen client is also at the remote location, 
monitoring the received stream, and the second listen client is on the 
server's LAN, and it is playing the stream into the radio station's main 
mixing console for rebroadcast of the festival music.

I have had trouble with source clients being unreliable, but so far the 
server has been rock-stready. I have had no need to edit the .xml during 
the festivals so having no SIGHUP is not a problem, but even so, I have 
a batch file that stops/restarts the server if needed.

Thank you for your help on this list.

-- 
Jack Elliott
KPOV


From sm at noisynotes.com  Thu Oct 15 20:30:07 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:30:07 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] EZStream: Can it stream a URL?
In-Reply-To: <20151013045845.0F3D1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <s9v41bh2ts8jh5te581bnt4pfja5pccnn7@4ax.com>
	<alpine.DEB.2.11.1510051440420.10222@portkey.home>
	<qg8b1bl2sn1rr482jcle3us88097i0ej6l@4ax.com>
	<20151008062050.0E4ED128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<vked1bhge257gi29b9ra7jb7lncohqbe6b@4ax.com>
	<20151009090516.3213A128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<4gkf1b5su32f082og5bdnl62dtmn34i2bf@4ax.com>
	<20151013045845.0F3D1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <gr202b597mhgmnm2qi8nvfd44bn6qvupv7@4ax.com>

Thanks all for the possibilities for re-streaming. I found something
called streamTranscoderv3 (yes, capital-T in Transcoder) that does the
job.

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:58:20 +0000, you wrote:

>Good morning,
>
>On Fri, 2015-10-09 at 10:42 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:05:05 +0000, you wrote:
>> 
>> >reflum,
>> >
>> >On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 14:52 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> >> Additional to my earlier post, I was also thinking of a single
>> >> broadcast relay, but it's not possible to start it and stop it on
>> >> demand. One way around this might be to load a special Icecast XML
>> >> with the relay in it at the program's broadcast time, then reload the
>> >> regular one when the relayed program ends. Klugey, but it could work I
>> >> suppose.
>> >
>> >Hm.
>> >I think you should go with fallbacks. At least you would not need to
>> >change the config and stuff (and lose listener in case something doesn't
>> >work (e.g. network hiccup between provider and relay)).
>> 
>> Good thought.
>
>
>> >What is the trigger source for you to change to the other stream?
>> 
>> Just a timed program, starts streaming at a certain time, stops when
>> it's over.
>
>Ok. Then I think we should go for fallbacks and some kind of active
>rely. There have been some suggestions on such software on the mailing
>list lately...
>
>The documentation for fallbacks can be as part of the regular Icecast2
>docs (e.g. on the website).
>
>Have a nice day!


From sm at noisynotes.com  Thu Oct 15 20:30:08 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:30:08 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing a sspecific stream type
In-Reply-To: <56198ED5.4070407@logicalnetworking.net>
References: <0uti1bti3ort64p44co2nalf0n2tskl9s5@4ax.com>
	<56198ED5.4070407@logicalnetworking.net>
Message-ID: <3u202btllogs0r8cm6olt9bddq6j8gfcug@4ax.com>

That's what I thought. Just wanted to be sure.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:19:01 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Steve, Icecast simply passes the stream through unconverted. You'd
>want to employ something that will convert the stream for you before it
>hits Icecast.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Jordan
>
>
>On 10/10/2015 01:43 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> Is it possible to force Icecast to stream in a specific stream type,
>> such as OGG, regardless of the source or input? For example, if a
>> streaming client connects to an Icecast server with an MP3 format
>> stream, can Icecast be forced to send it out as OGG or AAC or anything
>> else? Or does Icecast simply pass the stream through unconverted?
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From mh747 at outlook.com  Wed Oct 21 17:02:50 2015
From: mh747 at outlook.com (M M)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:02:50 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>,
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>


I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for changes to the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.


From: lion at lion.leolix.org
To: icecast at xiph.org
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

Good morning,
 
On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
 
Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
to let it re-read it with the current official version.
But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
software) on windows anyway.
 
 
-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)

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From lance at mnetradio.com  Wed Oct 21 19:46:06 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance Schilka)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>

Thanks for your reply...! It was a permission problem as I had to run as admin to edit it! The problem I'm having now is connecting to the server with SAM broadcaster... Is there any other software I need to run other than Sam and icecast? The server is invalidating the password authentication now?

Regard
Lance Schilka

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:02, M M <mh747 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for changes to the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.
> 
> 
> 
> From: lion at lion.leolix.org
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
>  
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> > When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> > edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> > Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> > It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> > changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
>  
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Thu Oct 22 01:03:01 2015
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:03:01 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>,
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008c01d10c65$677dc160$36794420$@com>

Is that the case for the Windows edition of Icecast Server?

 

From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of M M
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 6:03 a.m.
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

 

 

I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for changes to
the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.

 

 

From: lion at lion.leolix.org
To: icecast at xiph.org
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

Good morning,
 
On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
 
Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
to let it re-read it with the current official version.
But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
software) on windows anyway.
 
 
-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)


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From lance at mnetradio.com  Thu Oct 22 01:19:13 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance Schilka)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:19:13 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <008c01d10c65$677dc160$36794420$@com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
	<008c01d10c65$677dc160$36794420$@com>
Message-ID: <6944FB23-6BF5-49B7-8617-AB12D30CE140@mnetradio.com>

Yes windows 7

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 18:03, Ross Levis <ross at stationplaylist.com> wrote:
> 
> Is that the case for the Windows edition of Icecast Server?
>  
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of M M
> Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 6:03 a.m.
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
>  
>  
> I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for changes to the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.
>  
>  
> 
> From: lion at lion.leolix.org
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
>  
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> > When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> > edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> > Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> > It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> > changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
>  
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Thu Oct 22 04:50:49 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 04:50:49 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	, <561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	, <20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20151022045053.50E62128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 10:02 -0700, M M wrote:
> I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for
> changes to the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.

I was told that I implemented config reload via the web interface for
that reason[0]. Seems I forgot about it. I'm sorry for that.
You can find it as a button in the 'Global server stats' section in the
admin area[1].

Have fun!


[0] to support it on windows. However it seems to be a nice feature
anyway and is non-windows specific.
[1] That is in 2.5.x. See #2018.

> 
> 
> From: lion at lion.leolix.org
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
>  
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> > When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can
> > edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart
> > Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> > It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting the
> > changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
>  
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a
> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way
> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lion at lion.leolix.org  Thu Oct 22 04:52:01 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 04:52:01 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
	<56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>
Message-ID: <20151022045204.C748C128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 12:46 -0700, Lance Schilka wrote:
> The server is invalidating the password authentication now?

Can you please elaborate this question a bit? I don't seem to understand
what you're asking for.

Thank you.


-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lance at mnetradio.com  Wed Oct 21 18:37:11 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:37:11 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151022045053.50E62128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>	,
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>	,
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
	<20151022045053.50E62128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <002101d10c2f$7fc30ae0$7f4920a0$@com>

Thanks Phillip...I did manage to finally edit the config file...had to run
as admin...should have known that!
Im not the most apt computer guy 

-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Philipp Schafft
Sent: October-21-15 9:51 PM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

Good morning,

On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 10:02 -0700, M M wrote:
> I believe many Windows devs would just monitor the filesystem for 
> changes to the config file, and then re-read it when it has changed.

I was told that I implemented config reload via the web interface for that
reason[0]. Seems I forgot about it. I'm sorry for that.
You can find it as a button in the 'Global server stats' section in the
admin area[1].

Have fun!


[0] to support it on windows. However it seems to be a nice feature anyway
and is non-windows specific.
[1] That is in 2.5.x. See #2018.

> 
> 
> From: lion at lion.leolix.org
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:23:30 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
>  
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 07:16 -0700, Jack Elliott 541 848 7021 wrote:
> > When running Icecast server on a Windows machine, I find that I can 
> > edit icecast.xml while Icecast is running, but must stop and restart 
> > Icecast for the changes to be recognized. At least right away, anway.
> > It's possible that Icecast will eventually get around to accepting 
> > the changes later in the day but I haven't waited to find out.
>  
> Icecast2 will not magically re-read it. To do so you need to send a 
> SIGHUP. As windows does not have real, working signals there is no way 
> to let it re-read it with the current official version.
> But I need to recommend against running Icecast2 (or any other server
> software) on windows anyway.

--
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)



From lance at mnetradio.com  Wed Oct 21 18:45:24 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:45:24 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151022045204.C748C128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>	<56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>
	<20151022045204.C748C128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <002201d10c30$a60b7fb0$f2227f10$@com>

Yes ...Ive configured SAM to the settings in the config file and it tryies
to connect then says invalid password , authentication required...It's the
right password!
I also dont seem to have an icecast GUI for the icecast server that I see in
all the youtube tutorials? Therefor I c
havent figured out how to start the server? I have accessed the admin
interface just fine, but that's about all Ive been able to do so far. Am I
missing something here? I really do appreciate any advice you may have for
me

Regards
Lance

-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Philipp Schafft
Sent: October-21-15 9:52 PM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running

Good morning,

On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 12:46 -0700, Lance Schilka wrote:
> The server is invalidating the password authentication now?

Can you please elaborate this question a bit? I don't seem to understand
what you're asking for.

Thank you.


--
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)



From lion at lion.leolix.org  Fri Oct 23 04:28:31 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:28:31 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <002201d10c30$a60b7fb0$f2227f10$@com>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
	<56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>
	<20151022045204.C748C128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<002201d10c30$a60b7fb0$f2227f10$@com>
Message-ID: <20151023042834.85FAA128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 11:45 -0700, Lance wrote:
> Yes ...Ive configured SAM to the settings in the config file and it
> tryies to connect then says invalid password , authentication
> required...It's the right password!

Then likely you got the wrong password or username.


> I also dont seem to have an icecast GUI for the icecast server that I
> see in all the youtube tutorials? Therefor I c havent figured out how
> to start the server?

If you talk about that win* GUI: It's gone. Writing and maintaining
software for win* is very complicated and time consuming. So the GUI has
been dropped to get resources for improvements for all our users.


> I have accessed the admin interface just fine, but that's about all
> Ive been able to do so far.

So the server is actually running.


> Am I missing something here? I really do appreciate any advice you may
> have for me

My guess is that you over-configured your Icecast2. e.g. you added a
<mount> section for no reason. Without seeing your config file it's just
random guessing. I suggest you to start with a fresh config and *just*
change the passwords. If 'SAM' has a username field use 'source' and the
source password as given in the config.

Have a nice day!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
> Of Philipp Schafft
> Sent: October-21-15 9:52 PM
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 12:46 -0700, Lance Schilka wrote:
> > The server is invalidating the password authentication now?
> 
> Can you please elaborate this question a bit? I don't seem to understand
> what you're asking for.
> 
> Thank you.
> 

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From lance at mnetradio.com  Fri Oct 23 05:08:24 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance Schilka)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 22:08:24 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
In-Reply-To: <20151023042834.85FAA128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <CAKVH1ejAz6hkEfJs3r=baH35wFMqsAmRT2DOxZVyWBkQ=wZSRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<561BC0A5.9060206@kpov.org>
	<20151013052332.4357F128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<BLU179-W91B1298A389178EAC72E0DED380@phx.gbl>
	<56A4848E-A143-4C76-9875-0E90850D9808@mnetradio.com>
	<20151022045204.C748C128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<002201d10c30$a60b7fb0$f2227f10$@com>
	<20151023042834.85FAA128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <14D2DACB-2E58-4C23-9038-298F2095CD1B@mnetradio.com>

Thanks for answering all my questions! It really helps to get the clarifications... I'll do what you've suggested and go from there! Thanks again!

Lance

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 21:28, Philipp Schafft <lion at lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
>> On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 11:45 -0700, Lance wrote:
>> Yes ...Ive configured SAM to the settings in the config file and it
>> tryies to connect then says invalid password , authentication
>> required...It's the right password!
> 
> Then likely you got the wrong password or username.
> 
> 
>> I also dont seem to have an icecast GUI for the icecast server that I
>> see in all the youtube tutorials? Therefor I c havent figured out how
>> to start the server?
> 
> If you talk about that win* GUI: It's gone. Writing and maintaining
> software for win* is very complicated and time consuming. So the GUI has
> been dropped to get resources for improvements for all our users.
> 
> 
>> I have accessed the admin interface just fine, but that's about all
>> Ive been able to do so far.
> 
> So the server is actually running.
> 
> 
>> Am I missing something here? I really do appreciate any advice you may
>> have for me
> 
> My guess is that you over-configured your Icecast2. e.g. you added a
> <mount> section for no reason. Without seeing your config file it's just
> random guessing. I suggest you to start with a fresh config and *just*
> change the passwords. If 'SAM' has a username field use 'source' and the
> source password as given in the config.
> 
> Have a nice day!
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
>> Of Philipp Schafft
>> Sent: October-21-15 9:52 PM
>> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
>> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Edit icecast.xml while server running
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2015-10-21 at 12:46 -0700, Lance Schilka wrote:
>>> The server is invalidating the password authentication now?
>> 
>> Can you please elaborate this question a bit? I don't seem to understand
>> what you're asking for.
>> 
>> Thank you.
> 
> -- 
> Philipp.
> (Rah of PH2)
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From jbergers1987 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 19:27:15 2015
From: jbergers1987 at gmail.com (Justin Bergers)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:27:15 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
Message-ID: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>

hi all

why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.




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From jonathancandler_msa at q.com  Fri Oct 23 19:49:56 2015
From: jonathancandler_msa at q.com (Jonathan Candler)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:49:56 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E427D24B-4CC0-458E-BE6B-3371D069AD2E@q.com>

What is your distribution. Are you using ubuntu or another operating system?

Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:27, Justin Bergers <jbergers1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hi all
> 
> why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> from justin
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
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From jbergers1987 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 20:16:01 2015
From: jbergers1987 at gmail.com (Justin Bergers)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:16:01 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <E427D24B-4CC0-458E-BE6B-3371D069AD2E@q.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
	<E427D24B-4CC0-458E-BE6B-3371D069AD2E@q.com>
Message-ID: <6922C3E9-6861-4499-86E4-4CFD18A8008A@gmail.com>

hi all 


i am using Ubuntu in linode. 

from
justin

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Jonathan Candler <jonathancandler_msa at q.com> wrote:
> 
> What is your distribution. Are you using ubuntu or another operating system?
> 
> Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!
> 
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:27, Justin Bergers <jbergers1987 at gmail.com <mailto:jbergers1987 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> hi all
>> 
>> why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> from justin
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
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From dv.sorokins at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 23 20:29:54 2015
From: dv.sorokins at googlemail.com (Dmitrijs Sorokins)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 23:29:54 +0300
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>

Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?

23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:
> hi all
>
> why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up 
> icecast server.
> from justin
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

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From jbergers1987 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 20:46:41 2015
From: jbergers1987 at gmail.com (Justin Bergers)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:46:41 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
	<562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>

hi all 

how do i turn on Listener?

from 
justin

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Dmitrijs Sorokins <dv.sorokins at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?
> 
> 23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:
>> hi all
>> 
>> why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> from justin
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

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From awi3 at live.com  Fri Oct 23 21:19:33 2015
From: awi3 at live.com (Alan Bowness)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 22:19:33 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com><562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
	<C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB129-DS1550CB7FBBD68B2C2AC90EF260@phx.gbl>

maybe wrong english words are being used?

I have a feeling that the default settings are at fault here, in the .xml file, there is a line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts.
I?m only a newbie, but have a feeling this could be his ?newbie? problem

if am wrong, i will put my beer down and go off to bed.....





From: Justin Bergers 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:46 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org 
Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast

hi all  

how do i turn on Listener? 


from 
justin


  On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Dmitrijs Sorokins <dv.sorokins at googlemail.com> wrote:

  Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?


  23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:

    hi all 

    why i?m not Listening my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
    from justin

     

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From lance at mnetradio.com  Fri Oct 23 22:06:52 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance Schilka)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:06:52 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <DUB129-DS1550CB7FBBD68B2C2AC90EF260@phx.gbl>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
	<562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
	<C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>
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Lol... It has started! But it appears that the username had to be 'source' as Phillppe said!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 14:19, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com> wrote:
> 
> maybe wrong english words are being used?
>  
> I have a feeling that the default settings are at fault here, in the .xml file, there is a line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts.
> I?m only a newbie, but have a feeling this could be his ?newbie? problem
>  
> if am wrong, i will put my beer down and go off to bed.....
>  
> <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>
>  
>  
>  
> From: Justin Bergers
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:46 PM
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast
>  
> hi all 
>  
> how do i turn on Listener?
> 
> from 
> justin
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Dmitrijs Sorokins <dv.sorokins at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?
>> 
>> 23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:
>>> hi all
>>>  
>>> why i?m not Listening 
>>>     my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
>>> from 
>>>     justin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
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From jbergers1987 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:22:19 2015
From: jbergers1987 at gmail.com (Justin Bergers)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:22:19 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <1E83C748-F3EE-45CD-B8D0-18E076F866A9@mnetradio.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
	<562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
	<C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>
	<DUB129-DS1550CB7FBBD68B2C2AC90EF260@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <E22CE36A-3071-4B1C-A0AA-0D762EB6AF72@gmail.com>

hi all 

how do i editing  line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts??


<icecast>
    <!-- location and admin are two arbitrary strings that are e.g. visible
         on the server info page of the icecast web interface
         (server_version.xsl). -->
    <location>Earth</location>
    <admin>icemaster at localhost</admin>

    <limits>
        <clients>100</clients>
        <sources>2</sources>
        <threadpool>5</threadpool>
        <queue-size>524288</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
        <!-- If enabled, this will provide a burst of data when a client 
             first connects, thereby significantly reducing the startup 
             time for listeners that do substantial buffering. However,
             it also significantly increases latency between the source
             client and listening client.  For low-latency setups, you
             might want to disable this. -->
        <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
        <!-- same as burst-on-connect, but this allows for being more
             specific on how much to burst. Most people won't need to
             change from the default 64k. Applies to all mountpoints  -->
        <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
        <source-password>re4d2019</source-password>
        <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
        <relay-password>re4d2019</relay-password>

        <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
        <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
        <admin-password>elmoco87jtb</admin-password>
    </authentication>

    <!-- set the mountpoint for a shoutcast source to use, the default if not
         specified is /stream but you can change it here if an alternative is
         wanted or an extension is required
    <shoutcast-mount>/live.nsv</shoutcast-mount>
    -->

    <!-- Uncomment this if you want directory listings -->
    <!--
    <directory>
        <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
        <yp-url>http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
    </directory>
     -->

    <!-- This is the hostname other people will use to connect to your server.
    It affects mainly the urls generated by Icecast for playlists and yp


from 
justin
                                                                            
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Lance Schilka <lance at mnetradio.com> wrote:
> 
> Lol... It has started! But it appears that the username had to be 'source' as Phillppe said!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 14:19, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com <mailto:awi3 at live.com>> wrote:
> 
>> maybe wrong english words are being used?
>>  
>> I have a feeling that the default settings are at fault here, in the .xml file, there is a line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts.
>> I?m only a newbie, but have a feeling this could be his ?newbie? problem
>>  
>> if am wrong, i will put my beer down and go off to bed.....
>>  
>> <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: Justin Bergers <mailto:jbergers1987 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:46 PM
>> To: icecast at xiph.org <mailto:icecast at xiph.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast
>>  
>> hi all 
>>  
>> how do i turn on Listener?
>> 
>> from 
>> justin
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Dmitrijs Sorokins <dv.sorokins at googlemail.com <mailto:dv.sorokins at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?
>>> 
>>> 23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:
>>>> hi all
>>>>  
>>>> why i?m not Listening 
>>>>     my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
>>>> from 
>>>>     justin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org <mailto:Icecast at xiph.org>
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast <http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast>
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From lance at mnetradio.com  Sat Oct 24 00:29:31 2015
From: lance at mnetradio.com (Lance Schilka)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:29:31 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] icecast
In-Reply-To: <E22CE36A-3071-4B1C-A0AA-0D762EB6AF72@gmail.com>
References: <8D4F27CE-73DC-4EB5-8C30-8A50D82DF138@gmail.com>
	<562A98C2.8090401@gmail.com>
	<C43C6E43-CAA8-4AB5-B7E1-0283CC94EFF9@gmail.com>
	<DUB129-DS1550CB7FBBD68B2C2AC90EF260@phx.gbl>
	<1E83C748-F3EE-45CD-B8D0-18E076F866A9@mnetradio.com>
	<E22CE36A-3071-4B1C-A0AA-0D762EB6AF72@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3B7A29F-B8C1-4744-BD1D-62352DD5BD83@mnetradio.com>

I didn't have to u comment my connection... It was the user name that I changed on SAM BROADCASTER that made the difference for me
Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 15:22, Justin Bergers <jbergers1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hi all 
> 
> how do i editing  line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts??
> 
> 
> <icecast>
>     <!-- location and admin are two arbitrary strings that are e.g. visible
>          on the server info page of the icecast web interface
>          (server_version.xsl). -->
>     <location>Earth</location>
>     <admin>icemaster at localhost</admin>
> 
>     <limits>
>         <clients>100</clients>
>         <sources>2</sources>
>         <threadpool>5</threadpool>
>         <queue-size>524288</queue-size>
>         <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
>         <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
>         <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
>         <!-- If enabled, this will provide a burst of data when a client 
>              first connects, thereby significantly reducing the startup 
>              time for listeners that do substantial buffering. However,
>              it also significantly increases latency between the source
>              client and listening client.  For low-latency setups, you
>              might want to disable this. -->
>         <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
>         <!-- same as burst-on-connect, but this allows for being more
>              specific on how much to burst. Most people won't need to
>              change from the default 64k. Applies to all mountpoints  -->
>         <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
>     </limits>
> 
>     <authentication>
>         <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
>         <source-password>re4d2019</source-password>
>         <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
>         <relay-password>re4d2019</relay-password>
> 
>         <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
>         <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
>         <admin-password>elmoco87jtb</admin-password>
>     </authentication>
> 
>     <!-- set the mountpoint for a shoutcast source to use, the default if not
>          specified is /stream but you can change it here if an alternative is
>          wanted or an extension is required
>     <shoutcast-mount>/live.nsv</shoutcast-mount>
>     -->
> 
>     <!-- Uncomment this if you want directory listings -->
>     <!--
>     <directory>
>         <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
>         <yp-url>http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
>     </directory>
>      -->
> 
>     <!-- This is the hostname other people will use to connect to your server.
>     It affects mainly the urls generated by Icecast for playlists and yp
> 
> 
> from 
> justin
>                                                                             
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Lance Schilka <lance at mnetradio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Lol... It has started! But it appears that the username had to be 'source' as Phillppe said!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 14:19, Alan Bowness <awi3 at live.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> maybe wrong english words are being used?
>>>  
>>> I have a feeling that the default settings are at fault here, in the .xml file, there is a line that has to be uncommented so that the server starts.
>>> I?m only a newbie, but have a feeling this could be his ?newbie? problem
>>>  
>>> if am wrong, i will put my beer down and go off to bed.....
>>>  
>>> <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Justin Bergers
>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:46 PM
>>> To: icecast at xiph.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast
>>>  
>>> hi all 
>>>  
>>> how do i turn on Listener?
>>> 
>>> from 
>>> justin
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Dmitrijs Sorokins <dv.sorokins at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello Justin. Can you be more specific? What is the problem?
>>>> 
>>>> 23.10.2015 22:27, Justin Bergers ?????:
>>>>> hi all
>>>>>  
>>>>> why i?m not Listening 
>>>>>     my icecast? i need help please with setting up icecast server.
>>>>> from 
>>>>>     justin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>_______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 02:53:03 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 22:53:03 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] TuneIn Won't Record from my Icecast Relays
Message-ID: <A2D81468-FAC5-443E-BBAC-01DB2699A585@gmail.com>

Hi. If I open http://audio-mp3.ibiblio.org:8000/wncw-128k, or any other URL on my TuneIn app in iOS, I have the ability to record those streams for later listening. However, if I relay any of those streams via Icecast 2.42 on Windows 8.1, I can't record in TuneIn Pro. Is there a known cause or work-around for this? Thanks!

From lion at lion.leolix.org  Sun Oct 25 05:46:27 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 05:46:27 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] TuneIn Won't Record from my Icecast Relays
In-Reply-To: <A2D81468-FAC5-443E-BBAC-01DB2699A585@gmail.com>
References: <A2D81468-FAC5-443E-BBAC-01DB2699A585@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151025054631.19AE1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 22:53 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> Hi. If I open http://audio-mp3.ibiblio.org:8000/wncw-128k, or any
> other URL on my TuneIn app in iOS, I have the ability to record those
> streams for later listening.

> However, if I relay any of those streams via Icecast 2.42 on Windows
> 8.1,

Ok, so Icecast 2.4.2 itself is running on Windows 8.1?


> I can't record in TuneIn Pro. Is there a known cause or work-around
> for this? Thanks!

This is strange. I'm not into TuneIn at all so I just try general
guessing:
      * You can not record but you can listen?
      * What is the URL of that stream?
      * Is TuneIn running on the same (physical) system as Icecast?
      * You also point it to the *stream* not the *playlist*
        (.m3u, .xspf, .vclt-link as provided by Icecast's webinterface)?

Have a nice day!

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 12:01:13 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 08:01:13 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] TuneIn Won't Record from my Icecast Relays
In-Reply-To: <20151025054631.19AE1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <A2D81468-FAC5-443E-BBAC-01DB2699A585@gmail.com>
	<20151025054631.19AE1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <EF2B7C21-46F9-44F8-BC0E-079BED0682DD@gmail.com>

? Icecast is running on Windows.
? I can successfully listen to the relay via TuneIn, but I cannot record from the relay. The record button, in TuneIn, is disabled when I play the relay in TuneIn. Playing the actual source (provided in my initial email), the record feature is enabled in TuneIn.
? TuneIn is running on iOS 8.4.1.
? The result is the same if I point TuneIn Pro to the stream or playlist.





> On Oct 25, 2015, at 01:46, Philipp Schafft <lion at lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
>> On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 22:53 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>> Hi. If I open http://audio-mp3.ibiblio.org:8000/wncw-128k, or any
>> other URL on my TuneIn app in iOS, I have the ability to record those
>> streams for later listening.
> 
>> However, if I relay any of those streams via Icecast 2.42 on Windows
>> 8.1,
> 
> Ok, so Icecast 2.4.2 itself is running on Windows 8.1?
> 
> 
>> I can't record in TuneIn Pro. Is there a known cause or work-around
>> for this? Thanks!
> 
> This is strange. I'm not into TuneIn at all so I just try general
> guessing:
>      * You can not record but you can listen?
>      * What is the URL of that stream?
>      * Is TuneIn running on the same (physical) system as Icecast?
>      * You also point it to the *stream* not the *playlist*
>        (.m3u, .xspf, .vclt-link as provided by Icecast's webinterface)?
> 
> Have a nice day!
> 
> -- 
> Philipp.
> (Rah of PH2)
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Fri Oct 30 07:31:13 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:31:13 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] TuneIn Won't Record from my Icecast Relays
In-Reply-To: <EF2B7C21-46F9-44F8-BC0E-079BED0682DD@gmail.com>
References: <A2D81468-FAC5-443E-BBAC-01DB2699A585@gmail.com>
	<20151025054631.19AE1128F4@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<EF2B7C21-46F9-44F8-BC0E-079BED0682DD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20151030073116.C5B7012875@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good morning,

On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 08:01 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> ? Icecast is running on Windows.

ok.


> ? I can successfully listen to the relay via TuneIn, but I cannot
> record from the relay. The record button, in TuneIn, is disabled when
> I play the relay in TuneIn. Playing the actual source (provided in my
> initial email), the record feature is enabled in TuneIn.

ok.

> ? TuneIn is running on iOS 8.4.1.

also ok.

> ? The result is the same if I point TuneIn Pro to the stream or
> playlist.

hm, ok.

Without having a look at *both* streams I can not tell much about the
difference between them.

I have also heard rumours that is something broken in TuneIn and not
Icecast related. Maybe have to do with manually entered URLs vs. other
URLs.

Maybe it makes sense to ask the TuneIn support.



> > On Oct 25, 2015, at 01:46, Philipp Schafft <lion at lion.leolix.org>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning,
> > 
> >> On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 22:53 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> >> Hi. If I open http://audio-mp3.ibiblio.org:8000/wncw-128k, or any
> >> other URL on my TuneIn app in iOS, I have the ability to record
> those
> >> streams for later listening.
> > 
> >> However, if I relay any of those streams via Icecast 2.42 on
> Windows
> >> 8.1,
> > 
> > Ok, so Icecast 2.4.2 itself is running on Windows 8.1?
> > 
> > 
> >> I can't record in TuneIn Pro. Is there a known cause or work-around
> >> for this? Thanks!
> > 
> > This is strange. I'm not into TuneIn at all so I just try general
> > guessing:
> >      * You can not record but you can listen?
> >      * What is the URL of that stream?
> >      * Is TuneIn running on the same (physical) system as Icecast?
> >      * You also point it to the *stream* not the *playlist*
> >        (.m3u, .xspf, .vclt-link as provided by Icecast's
> webinterface)?
> > 
> > Have a nice day!
-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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