From lion at lion.leolix.org  Sat Aug  1 08:57:01 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 08:57:01 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] icecast2 will  not start from the /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <001b01d0cbab$8b5257e0$a1f707a0$@ca>
References: <933a272289420d52c496a8aaecbac340@4points.ca>
	<20150731145025.99FD312966@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<001b01d0cbab$8b5257e0$a1f707a0$@ca>
Message-ID: <20150801085705.84BDC12966@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good (early[0]) morning,

On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 12:11 -0400, Nick D'Angelo wrote:
> Where do I set the <errorlog>-</errorlog>?
> 
> In the /etc/init.d/icecast file?

In your icecast.xml within the <logging> section.


[0] I should really be sleeping at this time of day...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
> Of Philipp Schafft
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 10:50 AM
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast2 will not start from the /etc/init.d
> 
> reflum,
> 
> On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 10:38 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> > I can start it fine from the command line using  icecast -c 
> > icecast.xml
> 
> Does it report any problems when you try this?
> 
> 
> > we have ver 2.4.
> > 
> > When I try and start it using /etc/init.d/icecast2 start  it says [ ok 
> > ] Starting icecast2 (via systemctl): icecast2.service.
> > 
> > but it actually doesn't start.  nothing in the error logs, nothing in 
> > syslog.
> > 
> > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Maybe it can not write to the error log (e.g. because of a permission
> problem).
> 
> Please check the permissions of the log files.
> 
> You can also try to set:
> <errorlog>-</errorlog>
> 
> This should let Icecast log to stderr.
> 
> --
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

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From smj at cirr.com  Sun Aug  2 23:22:56 2015
From: smj at cirr.com (Stephen Jones)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] source switching using two servers.
Message-ID: <7D1E3B5E-C5E5-46B3-A8E0-4D275EC951A8@cirr.com>

Hello, 

I'm trying to get some automated stream switching between a handful of sources on a private icecast server to one public icecast server relaying one of the sources depending on the time of day, updated by a script.
The private server is for the handful of sources to test their stream, monitor and such.

both the private and public icecast config files are fairly straight forward. 

The private one has mounts that look like this:

<mount type="normal">
	<mount-name>/robot</mount-name>
	<username>robot</username>
	<password></password>
	<max-listeners>3</max-listeners>
	<charset>utf-8</charset>
</mount>

<mount type="normal">
	<mount-name>/dj1</mount-name>
	<username>dj1</username>
	<password></password>
	<max-listeners>3</max-listeners>
	<fallback-mount>/robot</fallback-mount>
	<fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
</mount>
	
<mount type="normal">
	<mount-name>/dj2</mount-name>
	<username>dj2</username>
	<password></password>
	<max-listeners>3</max-listeners>
	<fallback-mount>/robot</fallback-mount>
	<fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
</mount>

<mount type="normal">
	<mount-name>/dj3</mount-name>
	<username>dj3</username>
	<password></password>
	<max-listeners>3</max-listeners>
	<fallback-mount>/robot</fallback-mount>
	<fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
</mount>

The public server looks like this:

<relay>
<server>192.94.73.31</server>
<port>8010</port>
<mount>/robot</mount>
<local-mount>/public</local-mount>
<username>relay</username>
<password></password>
<relay-shoutcast-metadata>1</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
<on-demand>0</on-demand>
</relay>


That section gets updated by a script where the <mount> is set to whatever stream is up at that particular time.  A kill -HUP is set to the public icecast process and for the most part, this has been working great to switch relayed sources.
However, what seems to happen from time to time is that one of the streams on the private server will be switched to when the robot is streaming even if the <mount> section in the public server is set to robot.  

Is there another way (or a more correct way?) for me to do what I am trying to do?

From nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug  4 15:48:58 2015
From: nick at 4points.ca (Nick D'Angelo)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:48:58 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] icecast2 will  not start from the /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <20150801085705.84BDC12966@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <933a272289420d52c496a8aaecbac340@4points.ca>	<20150731145025.99FD312966@grassland.keep-cool.org>	<001b01d0cbab$8b5257e0$a1f707a0$@ca>
	<20150801085705.84BDC12966@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <00b001d0cecd$140c1ca0$3c2455e0$@ca>

Hello Again,

I updated the icecast.xml with the entry as you suggested and I still get
nothing displayed and the service will not start.



-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Philipp Schafft
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 4:57 AM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast2 will not start from the /etc/init.d

Good (early[0]) morning,

On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 12:11 -0400, Nick D'Angelo wrote:
> Where do I set the <errorlog>-</errorlog>?
> 
> In the /etc/init.d/icecast file?

In your icecast.xml within the <logging> section.


[0] I should really be sleeping at this time of day...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On 
> Behalf Of Philipp Schafft
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 10:50 AM
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] icecast2 will not start from the /etc/init.d
> 
> reflum,
> 
> On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 10:38 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> > I can start it fine from the command line using  icecast -c 
> > icecast.xml
> 
> Does it report any problems when you try this?
> 
> 
> > we have ver 2.4.
> > 
> > When I try and start it using /etc/init.d/icecast2 start  it says [ 
> > ok ] Starting icecast2 (via systemctl): icecast2.service.
> > 
> > but it actually doesn't start.  nothing in the error logs, nothing 
> > in syslog.
> > 
> > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Maybe it can not write to the error log (e.g. because of a permission 
> problem).
> 
> Please check the permissions of the log files.
> 
> You can also try to set:
> <errorlog>-</errorlog>
> 
> This should let Icecast log to stderr.
> 
> --
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

--
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)



From sm at noisynotes.com  Tue Aug  4 16:16:50 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:16:50 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2.4x Metadata doesn't clear if net file has
	none
In-Reply-To: <20150731144552.C212112966@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <kt0nra11d0ques5tgc7kdatfi13ovsjr7l@4ax.com>
	<20150731144552.C212112966@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <n8p1sateiu2a7aechooi6t3n9asilokfl0@4ax.com>

Yes, I did indeed mean 2.41, not that other thing. ;-)

I'm using Ices-CC as the playout system, so it's probably something in
there.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:45:49 +0000, you wrote:

>reflum,
>
>On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 10:23 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> I don't know if I have something set wrong in icecast.xml or not, but
>> on my old server (version forgotten, installed 2009), if I streamed
>> two files with the first one having metadata present but the second
>> had none, Icecast wouldn't stream anything when the second file
>> streamed. On my 4.21 server, when the second file streams, it shows
>> metadata left over from the first file. I just finished looking
>> through the documentation for 2.41 but cannot find any setting which
>> controls this. Help appreciated. Meanwhile, of course I'll get the
>> provider of the streamed file without any metadata to remedy that.
>
>I'm not aware of any meta data related changes in 2.3.* -> 2.4.* that
>could be relevant for your case.
>
>In general the source client is responsible for sending the meta data.
>Icecast does (in general case) not touch this information at all.
>
>Which source client do you use? Maybe the source client has some bug (or
>a "feature" you haven't expected ;).
>
>Have a nice day!


From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 03:10:04 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:10:04 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to socket
	timeout"
Message-ID: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>

Greetings:

I use Icecast 2.4.0 on Windows 8.1. I have a config file which sets up 
roughly a dozen relays to connect on demand.

My typical use is to connect to 1-4 of the streams simultaneously. All 
connections are either via WinAmp to 127.0.0.1 or via other clients on 
my LAN. My intent is to leave the connections active for up to 72 hours.

When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped 
with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors. Connecting to 
the sources directly allows me to stream as long as I like. I presume my 
problem to be me misunderstanding one or more settings, and any 
tinkering I've done chasing the problem has centered on the limits 
section. I've tried modifying queue-size, client-timeout, 
header-timeout, source-timeout, burst-on-connect, and burst-size to no 
avail. My config file is below. The config file has multiple relay 
sections which follow the example here.

<icecast>
<limits>
         <clients>16</clients>
         <sources>12</sources>
         <threadpool>5</threadpool>
         <queue-size>524288</queue-size>
         <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
         <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
         <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
         <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
         <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
     </limits>

     <!-- set the mountpoint for a shoutcast source to use, the default 
if not
          specified is /stream but you can change it here if an 
alternative is
          wanted or an extension is required
     <shoutcast-mount>/jzrcast</shoutcast-mount>
     -->

     <hostname>jzrtablet</hostname>

     <listen-socket>
         <port>8000</port>
         <!-- <shoutcast-mount>/stream</shoutcast-mount> -->
     </listen-socket>

     <relays-on-demand>1</relays-on-demand>

     <!-- StationNameGoesHere Relay -->
     <relay>
         <server>DomainGoesHere</server>
         <port>8000</port>
         <mount>/WhateverFollowsSlashInStreamURL</mount>
<local-mount>/SomethingICanRememberGoesHere</local-mount>
         <!--<on-demand>0</on-demand>-->
         <public>0</public>
<relay-shoutcast-metadata>1</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
     </relay>
</icecast>

Everything past the relays section is unaltered from the default. Thanks 
in advance for any thoughts.

-- 
Jeremiah Rogers
Mobile (Voice/Text): 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
Facebook/Twitter: /jzrogers



From nate at themillerhome.org  Sun Aug 16 03:22:02 2015
From: nate at themillerhome.org (Nathan Miller)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:22:02 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to
	socket timeout"
In-Reply-To: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
References: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAASiV8mwNckPzhH=zw2_kt_F8UNbspdN59=FKyJ6+0VftH0xmA@mail.gmail.com>

Have you checked your firewall settings on your windows machine?  Is there
a firewall in the path of the connection?

On Saturday, August 15, 2015, Jeremiah Rogers <jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Greetings:
>
> I use Icecast 2.4.0 on Windows 8.1. I have a config file which sets up
> roughly a dozen relays to connect on demand.
>
> My typical use is to connect to 1-4 of the streams simultaneously. All
> connections are either via WinAmp to 127.0.0.1 or via other clients on
> my LAN. My intent is to leave the connections active for up to 72 hours.
>
> When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped
> with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors. Connecting to
> the sources directly allows me to stream as long as I like. I presume my
> problem to be me misunderstanding one or more settings, and any
> tinkering I've done chasing the problem has centered on the limits
> section. I've tried modifying queue-size, client-timeout,
> header-timeout, source-timeout, burst-on-connect, and burst-size to no
> avail. My config file is below. The config file has multiple relay
> sections which follow the example here.
>
> <icecast>
> <limits>
>          <clients>16</clients>
>          <sources>12</sources>
>          <threadpool>5</threadpool>
>          <queue-size>524288</queue-size>
>          <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
>          <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
>          <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
>          <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
>          <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
>      </limits>
>
>      <!-- set the mountpoint for a shoutcast source to use, the default
> if not
>           specified is /stream but you can change it here if an
> alternative is
>           wanted or an extension is required
>      <shoutcast-mount>/jzrcast</shoutcast-mount>
>      -->
>
>      <hostname>jzrtablet</hostname>
>
>      <listen-socket>
>          <port>8000</port>
>          <!-- <shoutcast-mount>/stream</shoutcast-mount> -->
>      </listen-socket>
>
>      <relays-on-demand>1</relays-on-demand>
>
>      <!-- StationNameGoesHere Relay -->
>      <relay>
>          <server>DomainGoesHere</server>
>          <port>8000</port>
>          <mount>/WhateverFollowsSlashInStreamURL</mount>
> <local-mount>/SomethingICanRememberGoesHere</local-mount>
>          <!--<on-demand>0</on-demand>-->
>          <public>0</public>
> <relay-shoutcast-metadata>1</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
>      </relay>
> </icecast>
>
> Everything past the relays section is unaltered from the default. Thanks
> in advance for any thoughts.
>
> --
> Jeremiah Rogers
> Mobile (Voice/Text): 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com <javascript:;>
> Facebook/Twitter: /jzrogers
>
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From jerickson at logicalnetworking.net  Sun Aug 16 04:25:42 2015
From: jerickson at logicalnetworking.net (Jordan Erickson)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:25:42 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to
 socket timeout"
In-Reply-To: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
References: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55D010C6.20904@logicalnetworking.net>

On 08/15/2015 08:10 PM, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
*snip*
> When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped 
> with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors.
*snip*

What value is "eventually", approximately?


Cheers,
Jordan


From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 13:34:05 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:34:05 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to
 socket timeout"
In-Reply-To: <55D010C6.20904@logicalnetworking.net>
References: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com> <55D010C6.20904@logicalnetworking.net>
Message-ID: <55D0914D.5030705@gmail.com>

Sorry to leave that out. My connections typically last 2-6 hours before 
the socket timeout error. The streams are MP3, either 64KBPS or 128KBPS.

Nathan also asked about firewalls. My Windows Firewall is off, and my 
machine's antivirus doesn't have a firewall feature. I don't think 
there's any firewall in play here.

Before emailing the list, I looked through several months of list 
archives hoping to find this problem covered. While I didn't find it, I 
saw reference to setting the log level to 4 and did that with my most 
recent stream to see what I might learn. When the socket timeout is 
generated, I see the following line.

DBUG last 1439707668, timeout 10, now 1439707679

With each stream I used in that session, when that line would be 
generated, the difference between now and last was 11. They lead me to 
the following questions.

What are those numbers?
Do I correctly presume the allowable difference between them to be 
controlled by the <source-timeout> setting in the config file?
If I change <source-timeout> to 30, 60, 256, or 512, what ramifications 
might that have on listeners, my machine, or sources from which I relay?

Thanks!

On 8/16/2015 0:25, Jordan Erickson wrote:
> On 08/15/2015 08:10 PM, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> *snip*
>> When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped
>> with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors.
> *snip*
>
> What value is "eventually", approximately?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Jordan
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
Jeremiah Rogers
Mobile (Voice/Text): 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
Facebook/Twitter: /jzrogers



From lion at lion.leolix.org  Sun Aug 16 13:51:12 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:51:12 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to
 socket timeout"
In-Reply-To: <55D0914D.5030705@gmail.com>
References: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
	<55D010C6.20904@logicalnetworking.net>  <55D0914D.5030705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150816135116.E235C12BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>

reflum,

On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 09:34 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> Sorry to leave that out. My connections typically last 2-6 hours before 
> the socket timeout error. The streams are MP3, either 64KBPS or 128KBPS.

General remark: MP3 is a non free codec thus not officially supported.


> Nathan also asked about firewalls. My Windows Firewall is off, and my 
> machine's antivirus doesn't have a firewall feature. I don't think 
> there's any firewall in play here.

ok.


> Before emailing the list, I looked through several months of list 
> archives hoping to find this problem covered.

That's a good idea. I would like to see more people do it! Thanks a lot.


> While I didn't find it, I 
> saw reference to setting the log level to 4 and did that with my most 
> recent stream to see what I might learn.

That's a good idea as well.


> When the socket timeout is 
> generated, I see the following line.
> 
> DBUG last 1439707668, timeout 10, now 1439707679
> 
> With each stream I used in that session, when that line would be 
> generated, the difference between now and last was 11. They lead me to 
> the following questions.
> 
> What are those numbers?

Time stamps. last (1439707668) is Sun Aug 16 06:47:48 UTC 2015, and now
(1439707679) is Sun Aug 16 06:47:59 UTC 2015.

> Do I correctly presume the allowable difference between them to be 
> controlled by the <source-timeout> setting in the config file?

Yes.


> If I change <source-timeout> to 30, 60, 256, or 512, what ramifications 
> might that have on listeners, my machine, or sources from which I relay?

It will allow stalled connections to be 'hold' for a longer period of
time.


But:
If you are already waiting for 11 sec for data, especially on a MP3
stream something is likely (> 80%) wrong.

If you can I would be pleased to know the URLs you use as source for the
relay. I suspect this not to be an Icecast problem but something in your
data source.

If you can not provide those links or they're network internal you can
use a tool such as wget (wget -O /dev/null $URL) and see if the data is
flowing at a constant rate or if it 'modules' in rate and maybe even get
stalled. The problem is that you say it only happens after several
hours. But maybe it jumps around with the bitrate so we can notice it
earlier than this 10 sec timeout.

Also it would be helpful to know what kind of source you relay from
(another Icecast or something else?).

Have a nice day!


> Thanks!
> 
> On 8/16/2015 0:25, Jordan Erickson wrote:
> > On 08/15/2015 08:10 PM, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> > *snip*
> >> When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped
> >> with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors.
> > *snip*
> >
> > What value is "eventually", approximately?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jordan
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 01:54:00 2015
From: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com (Jeremiah Rogers)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:54:00 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Relays Ending With "Disconnecting source due to
 socket timeout"
In-Reply-To: <20150816135116.E235C12BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <55CFFF0C.9070605@gmail.com>
	<55D010C6.20904@logicalnetworking.net> <55D0914D.5030705@gmail.com>
	<20150816135116.E235C12BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <55D29038.8090109@gmail.com>

Hello. Thanks for the excellent help. BTW, what does reflum mean? I 
googled it but couldn't find anything conclusive.

I relay several streams from 181.FM, along with WNCW 
<http://audio-mp3.ibiblio.org:8000/wncw-128k>, WSM 
<http://stream01183.westreamradio.com:80/wsm-am1>, and WAME 
<http://crystalout.surfernetwork.com:8001/WAME-AM_MP3>. All relays are 
for my own benefit, for example on different devices simultaneously. The 
one that was most perplexing me was WNCW, which appears to be an Icecast 
2.32 or 2.33 stream. I think the 181.fm streams are all Shoutcast 
streams, and I've never looked to see what WAME is.

Since changing source-timeout to 60 instead of 10, I've been able to 
relay for much longer periods of time than in the months before. We may 
have gotten my trouble fixed. I'll relay hard for a week or two and see 
what happens.

Thanks again for the help and education.



On 8/16/2015 9:51, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> reflum,
>
> On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 09:34 -0400, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>> Sorry to leave that out. My connections typically last 2-6 hours before
>> the socket timeout error. The streams are MP3, either 64KBPS or 128KBPS.
> General remark: MP3 is a non free codec thus not officially supported.
>
>
>> Nathan also asked about firewalls. My Windows Firewall is off, and my
>> machine's antivirus doesn't have a firewall feature. I don't think
>> there's any firewall in play here.
> ok.
>
>
>> Before emailing the list, I looked through several months of list
>> archives hoping to find this problem covered.
> That's a good idea. I would like to see more people do it! Thanks a lot.
>
>
>> While I didn't find it, I
>> saw reference to setting the log level to 4 and did that with my most
>> recent stream to see what I might learn.
> That's a good idea as well.
>
>
>> When the socket timeout is
>> generated, I see the following line.
>>
>> DBUG last 1439707668, timeout 10, now 1439707679
>>
>> With each stream I used in that session, when that line would be
>> generated, the difference between now and last was 11. They lead me to
>> the following questions.
>>
>> What are those numbers?
> Time stamps. last (1439707668) is Sun Aug 16 06:47:48 UTC 2015, and now
> (1439707679) is Sun Aug 16 06:47:59 UTC 2015.
>
>> Do I correctly presume the allowable difference between them to be
>> controlled by the <source-timeout> setting in the config file?
> Yes.
>
>
>> If I change <source-timeout> to 30, 60, 256, or 512, what ramifications
>> might that have on listeners, my machine, or sources from which I relay?
> It will allow stalled connections to be 'hold' for a longer period of
> time.
>
>
> But:
> If you are already waiting for 11 sec for data, especially on a MP3
> stream something is likely (> 80%) wrong.
>
> If you can I would be pleased to know the URLs you use as source for the
> relay. I suspect this not to be an Icecast problem but something in your
> data source.
>
> If you can not provide those links or they're network internal you can
> use a tool such as wget (wget -O /dev/null $URL) and see if the data is
> flowing at a constant rate or if it 'modules' in rate and maybe even get
> stalled. The problem is that you say it only happens after several
> hours. But maybe it jumps around with the bitrate so we can notice it
> earlier than this 10 sec timeout.
>
> Also it would be helpful to know what kind of source you relay from
> (another Icecast or something else?).
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On 8/16/2015 0:25, Jordan Erickson wrote:
>>> On 08/15/2015 08:10 PM, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>>> *snip*
>>>> When I connect through my relays, eventually the connections are dropped
>>>> with "Disconnecting source due to socket timeout" errors.
>>> *snip*
>>>
>>> What value is "eventually", approximately?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jordan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
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From spamcatcher447 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 18:25:59 2015
From: spamcatcher447 at gmail.com (Spam Catcher)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:25:59 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Question about fallback ability to another server
Message-ID: <CAKsaqBAGJNpZhmneF2SLDzLT=HnL5gPDwje9Xs0B3S9TGDwzJw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone.

  I have two servers that both run Icecast2. I was wondering if anyone
knew of a way to have the fallback stream of one server redirect to a
stream on the other server? I know it may sound odd doing this, but
one of my servers doesn't have the required storage to hold the
fallback files but is overall more stable. So I want to use the stable
server when live streaming, but the other, less stable server when
just playing the fallback stream.

  Thanks a lot for any advice.


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Wed Aug 19 18:55:36 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:55:36 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Question about fallback ability to another server
In-Reply-To: <CAKsaqBAGJNpZhmneF2SLDzLT=HnL5gPDwje9Xs0B3S9TGDwzJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBAGJNpZhmneF2SLDzLT=HnL5gPDwje9Xs0B3S9TGDwzJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150819185543.AED1112BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>

Good evening,

On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 14:25 -0400, Spam Catcher wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
>   I have two servers that both run Icecast2. I was wondering if anyone
> knew of a way to have the fallback stream of one server redirect to a
> stream on the other server? I know it may sound odd doing this, but
> one of my servers doesn't have the required storage to hold the
> fallback files but is overall more stable. So I want to use the stable
> server when live streaming, but the other, less stable server when
> just playing the fallback stream.

I'm a little bit short on time. Why don't use just run the source client
for the fallback on the other system?

(Also: on-demand relays could do the job. But only if the stream is
running on the fallback machine anyway.)

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From spamcatcher447 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 04:01:23 2015
From: spamcatcher447 at gmail.com (Spam Catcher)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 00:01:23 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
Message-ID: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there.

  I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
to do this?

  Thanks


From nate at themillerhome.org  Sat Aug 22 04:07:22 2015
From: nate at themillerhome.org (Nathan Miller)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:07:22 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
In-Reply-To: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAASiV8=BEpJSrEOQkTxNxZU8Jqxww6TgWLEP1MJEcMOoUpei6g@mail.gmail.com>

Have you played with Liquidsoap http://liquidsoap.fm at all?  You
definitely could do it with that.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Spam Catcher <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi there.
>
>   I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
> client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
> and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
> don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
> was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
> to do this?
>
>   Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From spamcatcher447 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 05:14:53 2015
From: spamcatcher447 at gmail.com (Spam Catcher)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 01:14:53 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
In-Reply-To: <CAASiV8=BEpJSrEOQkTxNxZU8Jqxww6TgWLEP1MJEcMOoUpei6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAASiV8=BEpJSrEOQkTxNxZU8Jqxww6TgWLEP1MJEcMOoUpei6g@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, but I'd rather not attempt to learn how to script Liquid Soap
just to pull off what I want. If it's the only client that supports
this though, I'll give it a look.

  Thanks

On 8/22/15, Nathan Miller <nate at themillerhome.org> wrote:
> Have you played with Liquidsoap http://liquidsoap.fm at all?  You
> definitely could do it with that.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Spam Catcher <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi there.
>>
>>   I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
>> client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
>> and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
>> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
>> don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
>> was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
>> to do this?
>>
>>   Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>


From nate at themillerhome.org  Sat Aug 22 05:36:46 2015
From: nate at themillerhome.org (Nathan Miller)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:36:46 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
In-Reply-To: <CAKsaqBBK16srppOF3BxJouS=EoTkPhRpb+eD+YQnVF7SE__ZTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAASiV8=BEpJSrEOQkTxNxZU8Jqxww6TgWLEP1MJEcMOoUpei6g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKsaqBBK16srppOF3BxJouS=EoTkPhRpb+eD+YQnVF7SE__ZTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAASiV8=YQ0eEAKLoYc8yE9iLBai5QZXHnoWpvLWM0AJvuT_L0A@mail.gmail.com>

To be honest...it is super simple even without any scripting skills.  There
are plenty of examples on their site that pretty much tell you how to do
the basics, which is all you're trying to accomplish.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Spam Catcher <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, but I'd rather not attempt to learn how to script Liquid Soap
> just to pull off what I want. If it's the only client that supports
> this though, I'll give it a look.
>
>   Thanks
>
> On 8/22/15, Nathan Miller <nate at themillerhome.org> wrote:
> > Have you played with Liquidsoap http://liquidsoap.fm at all?  You
> > definitely could do it with that.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Spam Catcher <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there.
> >>
> >>   I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
> >> client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
> >> and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
> >> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
> >> don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
> >> was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
> >> to do this?
> >>
> >>   Thanks
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From Carlos.Camara at Staples.com  Sat Aug 22 04:42:56 2015
From: Carlos.Camara at Staples.com (Camara, Carlos)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 04:42:56 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
In-Reply-To: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91715D141FAEB90B.1-800b6976-8ed8-4722-aee2-bca88452832b@mail.outlook.com>

With IceS2 this is easily accomplished by copying the 'ices-playlist.XML' file (I have 3 copies in the same directory with different names). Then define a new mount point in the xml file and point  to a different play list file within the XML ( random can be enabled in the xml).  Once this is complete, in terminal start ices2 with each xml.

~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_s.XML
~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_mylist.XML
~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_classic.XML

I also define different log files for each stream.

Carl

Sent From My Android

From: Spam Catcher
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 12:01 AM
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions

Hi there. I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use to do this? Thanks _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM -0700, "Spam Catcher" <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com<mailto:spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there.

  I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
to do this?

  Thanks
_______________________________________________
Icecast mailing list
Icecast at xiph.org
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From spamcatcher447 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 07:11:37 2015
From: spamcatcher447 at gmail.com (Spam Catcher)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 03:11:37 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
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Ah. Thanks for that. I didn't think I'd be able to run multiple instances

On 8/22/15, Camara, Carlos <Carlos.Camara at staples.com> wrote:
> With IceS2 this is easily accomplished by copying the 'ices-playlist.XML'
> file (I have 3 copies in the same directory with different names). Then
> define a new mount point in the xml file and point  to a different play list
> file within the XML ( random can be enabled in the xml).  Once this is
> complete, in terminal start ices2 with each xml.
>
> ~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_s.XML
> ~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_mylist.XML
> ~ $ sudo ices2 /media/music/ices-playlist_classic.XML
>
> I also define different log files for each stream.
>
> Carl
>
> Sent From My Android
>
> From: Spam Catcher
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 12:01 AM
> Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
>
> Hi there. I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one
> source client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist
> file and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I don't see
> a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I was wondering if
> anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use to do this? Thanks
> _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM -0700, "Spam Catcher"
> <spamcatcher447 at gmail.com<mailto:spamcatcher447 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi there.
>
>   I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
> client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
> and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
> don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
> was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
> to do this?
>
>   Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


From lists at parisson.com  Sat Aug 22 15:44:17 2015
From: lists at parisson.com (Guillaume Pellerin)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:44:17 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Best source for creating multiple streams
In-Reply-To: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKsaqBDe6FqK1R_B3KmkbM5xvAGC1MqEXZr27uRCfJSVHkEsaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55D898D1.80504@parisson.com>

Hi!

DeeFuzzer can do that:
https://github.com/yomguy/DeeFuzzer

Each mountpoint can be setup as a "station" object in the XML or YAML config
file. I'm the main dev, so feel free to ask questions if any pb ;)

Cheers,
Yomguy


On 22/08/2015 06:01, Spam Catcher wrote:
> Hi there.
> 
>   I'm trying to find a way to create multiple streams with one source
> client. Each of the streams should read from a different playlist file
> and randomly pull and play songs from the file. I know how to do this
> with a single stream with clients such as IceS and Ezstream, but I
> don't see a way to specify different playlists for each mountpoint. I
> was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a source I could use
> to do this?
> 
>   Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 



From sm at noisynotes.com  Sat Aug 22 18:47:19 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:47:19 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and Streamed Audio Formats
Message-ID: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>

I just happened on a comparison page with a table listing the
differences between Icecast and Shoutcast (Icecast wins, of course),
and found a line that intrigued me. The line in the table listed AAC
as one of the codecs in which Icecast can stream. If this is correct,
what do I need to add to my Linux-based Icecast server and
configuration to make this happen?


From epirat07 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 18:55:11 2015
From: epirat07 at gmail.com (Marvin Scholz)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:55:11 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and Streamed Audio Formats
In-Reply-To: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>

On 22 Aug 2015, at 20:47, Steve Matzura wrote:

> I just happened on a comparison page with a table listing the
> differences between Icecast and Shoutcast (Icecast wins, of course),
> and found a line that intrigued me. The line in the table listed AAC
> as one of the codecs in which Icecast can stream. If this is correct,
> what do I need to add to my Linux-based Icecast server and
> configuration to make this happen?

Icecast does not officially support AAC, that does not mean that it 
can't stream AAC, it just won't do
any special handling of the format (i.e. metadata). To do so your source 
client just needs to send a
proper AAC stream, Icecast will just forward it to the listeners without 
modifications to the bitstream.


From sm at noisynotes.com  Sun Aug 23 00:13:55 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:13:55 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and Streamed Audio Formats
In-Reply-To: <719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>

So that means files with metadata in them don't get that metadata
streamed? Too bad that. This had potential.

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:55:11 +0200, you wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2015, at 20:47, Steve Matzura wrote:
>
>> I just happened on a comparison page with a table listing the
>> differences between Icecast and Shoutcast (Icecast wins, of course),
>> and found a line that intrigued me. The line in the table listed AAC
>> as one of the codecs in which Icecast can stream. If this is correct,
>> what do I need to add to my Linux-based Icecast server and
>> configuration to make this happen?
>
>Icecast does not officially support AAC, that does not mean that it 
>can't stream AAC, it just won't do
>any special handling of the format (i.e. metadata). To do so your source 
>client just needs to send a
>proper AAC stream, Icecast will just forward it to the listeners without 
>modifications to the bitstream.
>_______________________________________________
>Icecast mailing list
>Icecast at xiph.org
>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From lion at lion.leolix.org  Sun Aug 23 00:29:24 2015
From: lion at lion.leolix.org (Philipp Schafft)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:29:24 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and Streamed Audio Formats
In-Reply-To: <514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>

reflum,

On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 20:13 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
> So that means files with metadata in them don't get that metadata
> streamed? Too bad that. This had potential.

I think what he tried to say is:
It may or may not work. There is no official support. If it works for
you: fine. If it doesn't or break: no official support ('also fine').

regarding meta data:
It's *exactly* the same as for MP3 streams. There is no technical
difference between them.

Maybe that helped you.
Have a nice day!


> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:55:11 +0200, you wrote:
> 
> >On 22 Aug 2015, at 20:47, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >
> >> I just happened on a comparison page with a table listing the
> >> differences between Icecast and Shoutcast (Icecast wins, of course),
> >> and found a line that intrigued me. The line in the table listed AAC
> >> as one of the codecs in which Icecast can stream. If this is correct,
> >> what do I need to add to my Linux-based Icecast server and
> >> configuration to make this happen?
> >
> >Icecast does not officially support AAC, that does not mean that it 
> >can't stream AAC, it just won't do
> >any special handling of the format (i.e. metadata). To do so your source 
> >client just needs to send a
> >proper AAC stream, Icecast will just forward it to the listeners without 
> >modifications to the bitstream.

-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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From sm at noisynotes.com  Sun Aug 23 14:49:55 2015
From: sm at noisynotes.com (Steve Matzura)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:49:55 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and Streamed Audio Formats
In-Reply-To: <20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
Message-ID: <lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>

Yes, Philipp, it does help. Thanks for the clarification. I'll try it
and see what happens.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:29:24 +0000, you wrote:

>reflum,
>
>On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 20:13 -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> So that means files with metadata in them don't get that metadata
>> streamed? Too bad that. This had potential.
>
>I think what he tried to say is:
>It may or may not work. There is no official support. If it works for
>you: fine. If it doesn't or break: no official support ('also fine').
>
>regarding meta data:
>It's *exactly* the same as for MP3 streams. There is no technical
>difference between them.
>
>Maybe that helped you.
>Have a nice day!
>
>
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:55:11 +0200, you wrote:
>> 
>> >On 22 Aug 2015, at 20:47, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just happened on a comparison page with a table listing the
>> >> differences between Icecast and Shoutcast (Icecast wins, of course),
>> >> and found a line that intrigued me. The line in the table listed AAC
>> >> as one of the codecs in which Icecast can stream. If this is correct,
>> >> what do I need to add to my Linux-based Icecast server and
>> >> configuration to make this happen?
>> >
>> >Icecast does not officially support AAC, that does not mean that it 
>> >can't stream AAC, it just won't do
>> >any special handling of the format (i.e. metadata). To do so your source 
>> >client just needs to send a
>> >proper AAC stream, Icecast will just forward it to the listeners without 
>> >modifications to the bitstream.


From Nick at 4points.ca  Sun Aug 23 17:18:19 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:18:19 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
	/etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>

All, I am hoping someone can help me out.

I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it 
will  not start.

Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to 
/std/err

However, the icecast does start from the command line using

icecast -c icecast.xml

any suggestions would be helpfull.

Thanks,

Nick


From erm13martinez at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 17:31:19 2015
From: erm13martinez at gmail.com (Eduardo Martinez)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:31:19 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
	/etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
Message-ID: <CAJ8tkjhODhRgpfpGQaakqVkamyb8_82HpUfRPO3BQEN3gPbFQw@mail.gmail.com>

Open the /etc/default/icecast2 file as root in an editor. The last line
needs to be changed to

ENABLE=true

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 10:18 AM  <Nick at 4points.ca> wrote:

> All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
>
> I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it
> will  not start.
>
> Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to
> /std/err
>
> However, the icecast does start from the command line using
>
> icecast -c icecast.xml
>
> any suggestions would be helpfull.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From artuch at speedy.com.ar  Sun Aug 23 17:35:04 2015
From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:35:04 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
Message-ID: <1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>

El dom, 23-08-2015 a las 13:18 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca escribi?:
> All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
> 
> I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it 
> will  not start.
> 
> Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to 
> /std/err
> 
> However, the icecast does start from the command line using
> 
> icecast -c icecast.xml
> 
> any suggestions would be helpfull.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick
/etc/init.d/icecast2 start
Running Debian GNU/Linux is also necesary
configure /etc/default/icecast2 with ENABLE=true
Perhaps you should do the same.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From Nick at 4points.ca  Sun Aug 23 17:58:45 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:58:45 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <CAJ8tkjhODhRgpfpGQaakqVkamyb8_82HpUfRPO3BQEN3gPbFQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
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Message-ID: <3382b98a0cf5ba370315b086dc8a9959@4points.ca>

 

I will give that a try when I am in the office tomorrow. 

I will get back to you either way, many thanks. 

On 2015-08-23 13:31, Eduardo Martinez wrote: 

> Open the /etc/default/icecast2 file as root in an editor. The last line needs to be changed to 
> 
> ENABLE=true 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 10:18 AM <Nick at 4points.ca> wrote: 
> 
>> All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
>> 
>> I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it
>> will not start.
>> 
>> Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to
>> /std/err
>> 
>> However, the icecast does start from the command line using
>> 
>> icecast -c icecast.xml
>> 
>> any suggestions would be helpfull.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Nick
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]

 

Links:
------
[1] http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From nick at 4points.ca  Mon Aug 24 18:30:55 2015
From: nick at 4points.ca (Nick D'Angelo)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:30:55 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
	/etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
Message-ID: <003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>

This did not start my service.

No entries in my logs either.


-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Jos? Luis Artuch
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:35 PM
To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using /etc/init.d

El dom, 23-08-2015 a las 13:18 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca escribi?:
> All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
> 
> I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it 
> will  not start.
> 
> Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to 
> /std/err
> 
> However, the icecast does start from the command line using
> 
> icecast -c icecast.xml
> 
> any suggestions would be helpfull.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick
/etc/init.d/icecast2 start
Running Debian GNU/Linux is also necesary configure /etc/default/icecast2 with ENABLE=true Perhaps you should do the same.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


_______________________________________________
Icecast mailing list
Icecast at xiph.org
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From artuch at speedy.com.ar  Mon Aug 24 20:51:59 2015
From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:51:59 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>
Message-ID: <1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>

Hi Nick,
El lun, 24-08-2015 a las 14:30 -0400, Nick D'Angelo escribi?:
> This did not start my service.
> 
> No entries in my logs either.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Jos? Luis Artuch
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:35 PM
> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using /etc/init.d
> 
> El dom, 23-08-2015 a las 13:18 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca escribi?:
> > All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
> > 
> > I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it 
> > will  not start.
> > 
> > Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to 
> > /std/err
> > 
> > However, the icecast does start from the command line using
> > 
> > icecast -c icecast.xml
> > 
> > any suggestions would be helpfull.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Nick
> /etc/init.d/icecast2 start
> Running Debian GNU/Linux is also necesary configure /etc/default/icecast2 with ENABLE=true Perhaps you should do the same.
> >
What is the output of
netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>  _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 14:26:53 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:26:53 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>
	<1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>
Message-ID: <a5c53ce92998924005484a8d5ad17c58@4points.ca>

netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2

returns nothing.

remember that it starts using

  icecast2 -c icecast.xml

does start the broadcasting icecast server.



On 2015-08-24 16:51, Jos? Luis As rtuch wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> El lun, 24-08-2015 a las 14:30 -0400, Nick D'Angelo escribi?:
>> This did not start my service.
>> 
>> No entries in my logs either.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jos? Luis Artuch
>> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:35 PM
>> To: Icecast streaming server user discussions
>> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start 
>> using /etc/init.d
>> 
>> El dom, 23-08-2015 a las 13:18 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca escribi?:
>> > All, I am hoping someone can help me out.
>> >
>> > I am trying to start the icecast service using the /etc/init.d but it
>> > will  not start.
>> >
>> > Nothing appears in the logs and I even tried to direct any errors to
>> > /std/err
>> >
>> > However, the icecast does start from the command line using
>> >
>> > icecast -c icecast.xml
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be helpfull.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Nick
>> /etc/init.d/icecast2 start
>> Running Debian GNU/Linux is also necesary configure 
>> /etc/default/icecast2 with ENABLE=true Perhaps you

should do the same.
>> >
> What is the output of
> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>>  _______________________________________________
>> > Icecast mailing list
>> > Icecast at xiph.org
>> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From jam at zoidtechnologies.com  Tue Aug 25 14:31:01 2015
From: jam at zoidtechnologies.com (Jeff)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:31:01 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <a5c53ce92998924005484a8d5ad17c58@4points.ca>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>	<003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>	<1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<a5c53ce92998924005484a8d5ad17c58@4points.ca>
Message-ID: <55DC7C25.5070907@zoidtechnologies.com>

greetings,


On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
> 
> returns nothing.
> 
> remember that it starts using
> 
>   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> 
> does start the broadcasting icecast server.
> 
[..snipped..]

try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
owner/group/permissions.

regards,
J


From artuch at speedy.com.ar  Tue Aug 25 14:51:44 2015
From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:51:44 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <55DC7C25.5070907@zoidtechnologies.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>
	<1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<a5c53ce92998924005484a8d5ad17c58@4points.ca>
	<55DC7C25.5070907@zoidtechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <1440514304.1049.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>

Hi,
El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 10:31 -0400, Jeff escribi?:
> greetings,
> 
> 
> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> > netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
> > 
> > returns nothing.
> > 
> > remember that it starts using
> > 
> >   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> > 
> > does start the broadcasting icecast server.
> > 
> [..snipped..]
> 
> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
> owner/group/permissions.
> 
> regards,
> J
/etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 14:58:06 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:58:06 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <55DC7C25.5070907@zoidtechnologies.com>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
	<20150823002956.BA3C212BB3@grassland.keep-cool.org>
	<lbnjtatjv5moudju6cktvr9s8vn6m4tojr@4ax.com>
	<9415ae33c0b020a996e4399bf6bbfa5c@4points.ca>
	<1440351304.1368.3.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<003301d0de9b$03fcca20$0bf65e60$@ca>
	<1440449519.1191.1.camel@speedy.com.ar>
	<a5c53ce92998924005484a8d5ad17c58@4points.ca>
	<55DC7C25.5070907@zoidtechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <9e0829ed4eeaa2ac9fa95289f0268256@4points.ca>

Thanks Jeff,

the /etc/icecast2 is owned by root and group root

I am not sure what you mean about the absolute path to icecast.xml.  In 
which file?  the /etc/init.d/icecast2 file?

This is what is there:

# Defaults
CONFIGFILE="/etc/icecast2/icecast.xml"
CONFIGDEFAULTFILE="/etc/default/icecast2"
USERID=icecast2
GROUPID=icecast
ENABLE="false"

could it be that it says USERID and GROUPID are icecast2 and icecast 
respectively?


On 2015-08-25 10:31, Jeff wrote:
> greetings,
> 
> 
> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>> 
>> returns nothing.
>> 
>> remember that it starts using
>> 
>>   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>> 
>> does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>> 
> [..snipped..]
> 
> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
> owner/group/permissions.
> 
> regards,
> J
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From erm13martinez at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 15:02:11 2015
From: erm13martinez at gmail.com (Eduardo Martinez)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:02:11 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
	/etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <9e0829ed4eeaa2ac9fa95289f0268256@4points.ca>
References: <4qghtatug38o27vvmr186hg0petb93ecrn@4ax.com>
	<719039EA-25CF-4402-B45D-D1C0421E9763@gmail.com>
	<514ita9luej5dlkdp3uu01b51cp5vre2nl@4ax.com>
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>From my original reply.
Open the /etc/default/icecast2 file as root in an editor. The last line
needs to be changed to

ENABLE=true
It still looks like it is set to
ENABLE=false

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 7:58 AM  <Nick at 4points.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Jeff,
>
> the /etc/icecast2 is owned by root and group root
>
> I am not sure what you mean about the absolute path to icecast.xml.  In
> which file?  the /etc/init.d/icecast2 file?
>
> This is what is there:
>
> # Defaults
> CONFIGFILE="/etc/icecast2/icecast.xml"
> CONFIGDEFAULTFILE="/etc/default/icecast2"
> USERID=icecast2
> GROUPID=icecast
> ENABLE="false"
>
> could it be that it says USERID and GROUPID are icecast2 and icecast
> respectively?
>
>
> On 2015-08-25 10:31, Jeff wrote:
> > greetings,
> >
> >
> > On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> >> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
> >>
> >> returns nothing.
> >>
> >> remember that it starts using
> >>
> >>   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> >>
> >> does start the broadcasting icecast server.
> >>
> > [..snipped..]
> >
> > try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
> > owner/group/permissions.
> >
> > regards,
> > J
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 15:03:48 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:03:48 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
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# Edit /etc/icecast2/icecast.xml and change at least the passwords.
# Change this to true when done to enable the init.d script
ENABLE=true 

On 2015-08-25 11:02, Eduardo Martinez wrote: 

> From my original reply.
> Open the /etc/default/icecast2 file as root in an editor. The last line needs to be changed to 
> 
> ENABLE=true
> It still looks like it is set to 
> ENABLE=false 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 7:58 AM <Nick at 4points.ca> wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks Jeff,
>> 
>> the /etc/icecast2 is owned by root and group root
>> 
>> I am not sure what you mean about the absolute path to icecast.xml. In
>> which file? the /etc/init.d/icecast2 file?
>> 
>> This is what is there:
>> 
>> # Defaults
>> CONFIGFILE="/etc/icecast2/icecast.xml"
>> CONFIGDEFAULTFILE="/etc/default/icecast2"
>> USERID=icecast2
>> GROUPID=icecast
>> ENABLE="false"
>> 
>> could it be that it says USERID and GROUPID are icecast2 and icecast
>> respectively?
>> 
>> On 2015-08-25 10:31, Jeff wrote:
>>> greetings,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>>>> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>>>> 
>>>> returns nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> remember that it starts using
>>>> 
>>>> icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>>>> 
>>>> does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>>>> 
>>> [..snipped..]
>>> 
>>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
>>> owner/group/permissions.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> J
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]

 

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From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 15:05:11 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:05:11 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <CAJ8tkjhtczJ_2sFqcGHTxGmr+Jekrm5oK2hhA21XcnG-m3viww@mail.gmail.com>
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That was a copy and paste, sorry from my /etc/default/icecast2 

On 2015-08-25 11:02, Eduardo Martinez wrote: 

> From my original reply.
> Open the /etc/default/icecast2 file as root in an editor. The last line needs to be changed to 
> 
> ENABLE=true
> It still looks like it is set to 
> ENABLE=false 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 7:58 AM <Nick at 4points.ca> wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks Jeff,
>> 
>> the /etc/icecast2 is owned by root and group root
>> 
>> I am not sure what you mean about the absolute path to icecast.xml. In
>> which file? the /etc/init.d/icecast2 file?
>> 
>> This is what is there:
>> 
>> # Defaults
>> CONFIGFILE="/etc/icecast2/icecast.xml"
>> CONFIGDEFAULTFILE="/etc/default/icecast2"
>> USERID=icecast2
>> GROUPID=icecast
>> ENABLE="false"
>> 
>> could it be that it says USERID and GROUPID are icecast2 and icecast
>> respectively?
>> 
>> On 2015-08-25 10:31, Jeff wrote:
>>> greetings,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>>>> netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>>>> 
>>>> returns nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> remember that it starts using
>>>> 
>>>> icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>>>> 
>>>> does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>>>> 
>>> [..snipped..]
>>> 
>>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
>>> owner/group/permissions.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> J
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast [1]

 

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From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 15:16:29 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:16:29 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
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whomever posted I can quite follow, either Jeff or Jose, this

/etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2

I am working on ubuntu and we don't have an /etc/rc.  we have 
/etc/init.d and there is an /etc/init.d/icecast2 file there.

Interesting, I manually started the icecast2 and I shut it down using 
the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.


On 2015-08-25 10:51, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
> Hi,
> El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 10:31 -0400, Jeff escribi?:
>> greetings,
>> 

>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>> > netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>> >
>> > returns nothing.
>> >
>> > remember that it starts using
>> >
>> >   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>> >
>> > does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>> >
>> [..snipped..]
>> 
>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
>> owner/group/permissions.
>> 
>> regards,
>> J
> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 15:21:51 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:21:51 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <7b5d715b32833d43bbb33f0dd043670b@4points.ca>
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Update.

/etc/init.d/icecast2 stop will stop the service that I started manually 
using icecast2 -c icecast.xml

/etc/init.d/icecast2 restart will restart ther service.


On 2015-08-25 11:16, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> whomever posted I can quite follow, either Jeff or Jose, this
> 
> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
> 
> I am working on ubuntu and we don't have an /etc/rc.  we have
> /etc/init.d and there is an /etc/init.d/icecast2 file there.
> 
> Interesting, I manually started the icecast2 and I shut it down using
> the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.
> 
> 
> On 2015-08-25 10:51, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
>> Hi,
>> El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 10:31 -0400, Jeff escribi?:
>>> greetings,
>>> 
> 
>>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>>> > netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>>> >
>>> > returns nothing.
>>> >
>>> > remember that it starts using
>>> >
>>> >   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>>> >
>>> > does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>>> >
>>> [..snipped..]
>>> 
>>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
>>> owner/group/permissions.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> J
>> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
>> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
>>> _______________________________________



From Nick at 4points.ca  Tue Aug 25 15:30:08 2015
From: Nick at 4points.ca (Nick at 4points.ca)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:30:08 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
In-Reply-To: <10ae08f0a35483e10ebed0f19ca6642c@4points.ca>
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I am not sure what I other than start the service manually, stopped it 
using the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.

Then, I checked to see if it was still 'active and running' and it 
wasn't.

I ran /etc/init.d/icecast2 start and it started.

Thanks for the pointers.

On 2015-08-25 11:21, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> Update.
> 
> /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop will stop the service that I started manually
> using icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> 
> /etc/init.d/icecast2 s2 restart will restart ther service.
> 
> 
> On 2015-08-25 11:16, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>> whomever posted I can quite follow, either Jeff or Jose, this
>> 
>> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
>> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
>> 
>> I am working on ubuntu and we don't have an /etc/rc.  we have
>> /etc/init.d and there is an /etc/init.d/icecast2 file there.
>> 
>> Interesting, I manually started the icecast2 and I shut it down using
>> the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2015-08-25 10:51, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 10:31 -0400, Jeff escribi?:
>>>> greetings,
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
>>>> > netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
>>>> >
>>>> > returns nothing.
>>>> >
>>>> > remember that it starts using
>>>> >
>>>> >   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
>>>> >
>>>> > does start the broadcasting icecast server.
>>>> >
>>>> [..snipped..]
>>>> 
>>>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
>>>> owner/group/permissions.
>>>> 
>>>> regards,
>>>> J
>>> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
>>> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
>>>> _______________________________________
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From artuch at speedy.com.ar  Tue Aug 25 15:58:32 2015
From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:58:32 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 2 on ubuntu 14 - service will not start using
 /etc/init.d
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Hi,
El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 11:30 -0400, Nick at 4points.ca escribi?:
> I am not sure what I other than start the service manually, stopped it 
> using the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.
> 
> Then, I checked to see if it was still 'active and running' and it 
> wasn't.
> 
> I ran /etc/init.d/icecast2 start and it started.
> 
> Thanks for the pointers.
> 
> On 2015-08-25 11:21, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> > Update.
> > 
> > /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop will stop the service that I started manually
> > using icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> > 
> > /etc/init.d/icecast2 s2 restart will restart ther service.
> > 
> > 
> > On 2015-08-25 11:16, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> >> whomever posted I can quite follow, either Jeff or Jose, this
> >> 
> >> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
> >> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
> >> 
> >> I am working on ubuntu and we don't have an /etc/rc.  we have
> >> /etc/init.d and there is an /etc/init.d/icecast2 file there.
> >> 
> >> Interesting, I manually started the icecast2 and I shut it down using
> >> the /etc/init.d/icecast2 stop.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2015-08-25 10:51, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> El mar, 25-08-2015 a las 10:31 -0400, Jeff escribi?:
> >>>> greetings,
> >>>> 
> >> 
> >>>> On 08/25/2015 10:26 AM, Nick at 4points.ca wrote:
> >>>> > netstat -ntulp | grep icecast2
> >>>> >
> >>>> > returns nothing.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > remember that it starts using
> >>>> >
> >>>> >   icecast2 -c icecast.xml
> >>>> >
> >>>> > does start the broadcasting icecast server.
> >>>> >
> >>>> [..snipped..]
> >>>> 
> >>>> try specifying an absolute path to icecast.xml. also check
> >>>> owner/group/permissions.
> >>>> 
> >>>> regards,
> >>>> J
> >>> /etc/init.d/icecast2 is actually included in the startup ?
> >>> Check with ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2
> >>>> _______________________________________
> > 
I do not know how is in Ubuntu, but in Debian ...
insserv icecast2 <--- include icecast service on the startup
ls /etc/rc* | grep icecast2 <--- check if icecast service is included on
the startup
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast