From jonathancandler_msa at q.com  Sat Aug  2 15:12:31 2014
From: jonathancandler_msa at q.com (Jonathan Candler)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:12:31 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Using ardj with ezstream
Message-ID: <8E82FF1B-B85B-425D-B460-1FF144C15EA6@q.com>

Hello everybody. I would like to ask a question. Does anybody here know how to use ardj with ezstream? I have been trying to find some documentation on how to get it set up and working properly. But, I cannot find any. So, I hope that one of you knows how to use the software in conjunction with each other, because I would like to set up an intelligent scheduler that includes, jingles, and other stuff that goes along with it. If this cannot be done, the only other alternative that I could use, is liquidsoap, which I have tried before, but it did not work at all. I'm not sure what is going on with it, but I can try that again if need be. I would just want my existing setup to work with it. So, if anybody can help out with the dilemma above, I would really appreciate it.

Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!

From thomas at ruecker.fi  Tue Aug  5 21:14:51 2014
From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?UTF-8?B?IlRob21hcyBCLiBSw7xja2VyIg==?=)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:14:51 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] BUG ? - Metadata/tags NOT UPDATING - Python IceCast
 2.3.2[3]
In-Reply-To: <lrqn99$b2$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lqu1b1$82c$1@ger.gmane.org> <53D7C9F0.6040501@ruecker.fi>
	<lrqn99$b2$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <53E1494B.8010400@ruecker.fi>

On 08/05/2014 01:47 PM, Dean Sauer wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:21:04 +0000, Thomas B. R?cker wrote:
>
>
>> Which version of Icecast is this?
>> I'm not quite sure how to read the above.
> That decodes as 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
>
> Right now I use 2.3.2 on *buntu based 12.04 
>
> The 2.3.3 version was on a centos6 box, but will be decommissioned 
> shortly as we want to move away from CentOS/Fedora/RH unless we 
> absolutely positively need it for some reason, and right now, only CPanel 
> based hosts need it... unless CPanel ever gets resolved why they can't do 
> this on Debian based ie: *buntu's...

Please note that 2.3.2 has an enormous amount of known bugs and some
security issues. I do not know which patches are applied by the
distributions to potentially mitigate some of the security issues.


>
>> As a side note: We released 2.4.0 recently, including packages for most
>> distros.
> Doesn't appear this is available to 12.04, or 14.04, as we only use 
> ESR's. 

Distribution packages and their versions:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=icecast2

Latest stable Icecast *buntu packages for the two LTS releases:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dm8tbr/xUbuntu_12.04/
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dm8tbr/xUbuntu_14.04/


> But based on later info below... that may be an issue
>
>> Have you looked at the error.log yet?
>> Increase log level to 4 and check for differences.
>> Also I'm not sure if looking for the HTTP status code is sufficient. You
>> might need to evaluate the actual server response. I'd need to check the
>> source to be sure though.
> Since I got 200 OK.. I took it that IceCast accepted it and wouldn't 
> expect to see much different in the log... but...

Returning 200 instead of 403, in this case, might be a bug. This would
need further investigation. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.


> I'll have to change that to see.. and possibly tail it to watch the 
> updates to see what is going on.. unfortunately this is not really 
> something I can take down and up, and down, and up, unless these log 
> levels can be changed when the config is reloaded by
>
> kill -HUP IcecastPID

<snip />
I don't remember if we change log verbosity on a reload.
Surely you do have a test environment that you could use for your
testing purposes?


>> Are you by chance sending the updates from a different IP than the
>> source client?
>> There were frequent problems with two or more source clients "fighting"
>> for the mount and _both_ updating the metadata. This was disabled by
>> only allowing metadata updates from the same IP as the source client.
> At what point did this change occur? As this may be related partially...

http://icecast.org/news/icecast-release-2_3_3/
"Only allow raw metadata updates from same IP as connected source
(unless user is admin). This addresses broken client software that
issues updates without being connected."


> I develop on one system which is definitely a different IP than the 
> source... BUT as I recall, I'd have to re test it... 
<snip />
> We have certain metadata/tags info updates from "HIGH COMMAND" [?]
> These would come from a central point, [?]
> but could come from a "MASTER HIGH COMMAND 
> POINT" elsewhere in some cases...

If you use 2.3.3, then using admin credentials is your only option to
update metadata from a different IP address.
Unless you patch and rebuild Icecast.


> Yes we are aware of the potential 
> collisions in data... 

Yes, also if the source client sends a metadata update half a second
later, nobody might notice the injected data.


Cheers

Thomas


From thomas at ruecker.fi  Tue Aug  5 21:41:19 2014
From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:41:19 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Using ardj with ezstream
In-Reply-To: <8E82FF1B-B85B-425D-B460-1FF144C15EA6@q.com>
References: <8E82FF1B-B85B-425D-B460-1FF144C15EA6@q.com>
Message-ID: <53E14F7F.50801@ruecker.fi>

On 08/02/2014 03:12 PM, Jonathan Candler wrote:
> Hello everybody. I would like to ask a question. Does anybody here know how to use ardj with ezstream? I have been trying to find some documentation on how to get it set up and working properly. But, I cannot find any. 

http://umonkey.net/ardj/doc/
If you don't understand Russian, an online translator might help.


> So, I hope that one of you knows how to use the software in conjunction with each other, because I would like to set up an intelligent scheduler that includes, jingles, and other stuff that goes along with it. If this cannot be done, the only other alternative that I could use, is liquidsoap, which I have tried before, but it did not work at all.

There might be a few others, like idjc, rivendell, airtunes, mpd and
even vlc (if you discard the GUI). YMMV


Cheers

Thomas


From pshirkey at boosthardware.com  Wed Aug  6 18:58:01 2014
From: pshirkey at boosthardware.com (Patrick Shirkey)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:58:01 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] Embedded audio SoC supplier: audio player
Message-ID: <59589.86.107.254.57.1407351481.squirrel@boosthardware.com>

Hi,

I'm looking for a supplier who can provide a turnkey or white label LOW
COST linux compatible portable audio player.  SoC embedded linux device.
10k - 150k units.  Some hardware customisations may be required.

Any company that is interested in quoting on this project please contact
me directly to discuss the details.



--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd





From thomas at ruecker.fi  Thu Aug  7 19:17:10 2014
From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:17:10 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] video how to for icecast?
In-Reply-To: <CAP=xD-AU2jXSxp3xKyn1pYio31ren9=Azrjyah2DwZCTFDUe+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP=xD-AU2jXSxp3xKyn1pYio31ren9=Azrjyah2DwZCTFDUe+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53E3D0B6.2030907@ruecker.fi>

Hi,

On 07/05/2014 09:20 PM, Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi, i've been interested in icecast for a few months, but I am having
> difficulty setting it up, both locally and over the net, I've tried to
> follow forums, and what videos i can find, and i just get confused.
> I'm learning linux slowly, but i use windows mainly. Would it be
> possible for an official "how to" video to be made, I am more of a
> visual learner and it would help greatly.

Your mail was delayed as you are not subscribed to the mailing list and
it got filed together with spam.
We don't plan on having official videos.
There are ample written resources about setting up Icecast on the
Internet in addition to our own documentation. In addtion you can ask
questions on this mailing list, after subscribing:
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

Cheers

Thomas


From thomas at ruecker.fi  Thu Aug  7 19:22:57 2014
From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:22:57 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] listener stats and source username
In-Reply-To: <20140606173522.DF5AB2E731@silver.osuosl.org>
References: <20140606173522.DF5AB2E731@silver.osuosl.org>
Message-ID: <53E3D211.9030007@ruecker.fi>

On 06/06/2014 05:27 PM, dan kysor wrote:
> currently, it appears that only the admin has the ability to seek 
> the listener stats.  Is there a way in future additions that the 
> source username may be extended to receive stats as well?

Your mail was delayed as you are not subscribed to the mailing list and
it got filed together with spam.

As you will find in the official documentation:
http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.0/admin-interface.html
"Each of these functions requires HTTP authentication via the
appropriate username and password. For mount-specific functions, you may
use either the |<admin-username>| and |<admin-password>| specified in
the icecast config file, or the username and password specified for that
mountpoint (if any)."
Note that you must specify the mountpoint in the request for the
specific authentication to work.

Cheers

Thomas

PS: should you have further questions, please subscribe to the mailing
list first:

http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From fazel at iafrica.com  Fri Aug  8 08:35:21 2014
From: fazel at iafrica.com (iafrica)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:35:21 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] The url for listeners
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 09:12:44 2014
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (Scott Winterstein)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:12:44 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] The url for listeners
In-Reply-To: <20140808083521.5902482.23581.9652@iafrica.com>
References: <20140808083521.5902482.23581.9652@iafrica.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3r0CJZQ7S4b_eovJBWmrqpGE4SxfDuGWhyX4RVwCB=6xba5g@mail.gmail.com>

If you are hosting it, the ip of your connection xx.xx.xx.xx:8000. You may
have to open a port forward on your router.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
Scott Winterstein

EMAIL: 0turn1 at gmail dot com


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, iafrica <fazel at iafrica.com> wrote:

> ?Hi everyone
>
> I've battled for a week now to get my stream up and running.
>
> It is running very well.
>
> I can mute my stream and listen on another player on the same computer by
> typing in localhost:8000 in the player.
>
> I've looked for my stream in the directory but dont see it there.
>
> Now, the million dollar question: *What is the url address to give my
> listeners so they can tune in to the stream?*
>
> Please can someone help me in figuring this out. I'm using Winamp with
> Edcast and streaming MP3
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Fazel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From fazel at iafrica.com  Fri Aug  8 12:47:27 2014
From: fazel at iafrica.com (iafrica)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:47:27 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] The url for listeners
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From 0turn1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 13:41:16 2014
From: 0turn1 at gmail.com (Scott Winterstein)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:41:16 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] The url for listeners
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http://206.217.201.136:8082/live

is mine www.dlradio.org www.hackedradio.com

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
Scott Winterstein

EMAIL: 0turn1 at gmail dot com


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:47 PM, iafrica <fazel at iafrica.com> wrote:

> Dear Scott
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> I'm going to try it and post it when I'm successful.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Fazel
>
>   *From: *Scott Winterstein
> *Sent: *Friday 8 August 2014 11:13
> *To: *Icecast streaming server user discussions
> *Reply To: *Icecast streaming server user discussions
> *Subject: *Re: [Icecast] The url for listeners
>
> If you are hosting it, the ip of your connection xx.xx.xx.xx:8000. You may
> have to open a port forward on your router.
>
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> Scott Winterstein
>
> EMAIL: 0turn1 at gmail dot com
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, iafrica <fazel at iafrica.com> wrote:
>
>> ?Hi everyone
>>
>> I've battled for a week now to get my stream up and running.
>>
>> It is running very well.
>>
>> I can mute my stream and listen on another player on the same computer by
>> typing in localhost:8000 in the player.
>>
>> I've looked for my stream in the directory but dont see it there.
>>
>> Now, the million dollar question: *What is the url address to give my
>> listeners so they can tune in to the stream?*
>>
>> Please can someone help me in figuring this out. I'm using Winamp with
>> Edcast and streaming MP3
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Fazel
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From fazel at iafrica.com  Fri Aug  8 15:05:50 2014
From: fazel at iafrica.com (iafrica)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:05:50 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] The url for listeners
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From hoggins at radiom.fr  Sat Aug  9 10:16:29 2014
From: hoggins at radiom.fr (Hoggins!)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:16:29 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Silence Detection for stream - Linux (Ubuntu
 12.04/14.04) ALSA ONLY
In-Reply-To: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <53E5F4FD.9070507@radiom.fr>

Hello,

I only know a nice tool for JACK, called silentjack.
So if by any chance, you find the strength to use JACK anyway, here is
the source code : http://www.aelius.com/njh/silentjack/

The code is very light and simple : if you have some programming skills,
you might even adapt it for ALSA.

Sorry for this OT answer.

    Hoggins!


Le 09/08/2014 02:39, Dean Sauer a ?crit :
> Looking to find something that can do silence detection on a feed from 
> Icecast 2.3.2 with a silence detection period passed as a variable
>
> ie: sd my.server.invalid:8000/mymount -t 20m -s /home/myuser/sendalart.sh
>
>
> On detection of silence exceeding this period it calls /home/myuser/
> sendalart.sh to send an email, or something else... could be BASH as this 
> example, or PHP, python... or.....
>
> ALSA ONLY! NO JACK! NO PULSE! ! We don't allow those on our box.
>
>
> Linux only, prerably Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, 32bit which can run on 64bit, if 
> only option. Will consider 14.04 64b solutions if the only option.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>





From artuch at speedy.com.ar  Sat Aug  9 12:22:09 2014
From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:22:09 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] Silence Detection for stream - Linux (Ubuntu
 12.04/14.04)	ALSA ONLY
In-Reply-To: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1407586929.3356.4.camel@jlaa>

Hi Dean,
El s?b, 09-08-2014 a las 00:39 +0000, Dean Sauer escribi?:
> Looking to find something that can do silence detection on a feed from 
> Icecast 2.3.2 with a silence detection period passed as a variable
> 
> ie: sd my.server.invalid:8000/mymount -t 20m -s /home/myuser/sendalart.sh
> 
> 
> On detection of silence exceeding this period it calls /home/myuser/
> sendalart.sh to send an email, or something else... could be BASH as this 
> example, or PHP, python... or.....
> 
> ALSA ONLY! NO JACK! NO PULSE! ! We don't allow those on our box.
> 
> 
> Linux only, prerably Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, 32bit which can run on 64bit, if 
> only option. Will consider 14.04 64b solutions if the only option.
You could experiment with a bush script using arecord.
Regards.
Jos? Luis
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From thomas at ruecker.fi  Sat Aug  9 22:09:42 2014
From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:09:42 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Silence Detection for stream - Linux (Ubuntu
 12.04/14.04) ALSA ONLY
In-Reply-To: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <53E69C26.2000006@ruecker.fi>

On 08/09/2014 12:39 AM, Dean Sauer wrote:
> Looking to find something that can do silence detection on a feed from 
> Icecast 2.3.2 with a silence detection period passed as a variable
>
> ie: sd my.server.invalid:8000/mymount -t 20m -s /home/myuser/sendalart.sh
>
>
> On detection of silence exceeding this period it calls /home/myuser/
> sendalart.sh to send an email, or something else... could be BASH as this 
> example, or PHP, python... or.....

I'd look into 'sox'. It's called a swiss army knife for a reason.

Cheers

Thomas


From david.baelde at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 08:32:11 2014
From: david.baelde at gmail.com (David Baelde)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:32:11 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Silence Detection for stream - Linux (Ubuntu
 12.04/14.04) ALSA ONLY
In-Reply-To: <ltc7o3$se9$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org> <53E69C26.2000006@ruecker.fi>
	<ltc7o3$se9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAFqqUFEz+SdKoa6U-BrWr1LnerBM8eoM9A=YMxqCa7Voz0YnWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Liquidsoap should be able to do what you want.

Cheers,

David (one of the liquidsoap devs)

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Dean Sauer <wemanageitfl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:09:42 +0000, Thomas B. R?cker wrote:
>
>> I'd look into 'sox'. It's called a swiss army knife for a reason.
>
> sox -q -V0 $Mp3FileNmae test_sox_usc_output.wav silence -l 1 0.1 2.4% -1
> 2.0 2.4%
>
> I do something with sox already to take the recordings and eliminate
> silence....
>
> So any ideas on this?
>
> streamripper and pipe to sox? ? ? I was sort of hoping to avoid that..
> but .... or something that can run at the source end? ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



-- 
David


From hoggins at radiom.fr  Sun Aug 24 15:53:40 2014
From: hoggins at radiom.fr (Hoggins!)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:53:40 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Silence Detection for stream - Linux (Ubuntu
 12.04/14.04) ALSA ONLY
In-Reply-To: <ltc7s2$se9$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <ls3qk0$fso$1@ger.gmane.org> <53E5F4FD.9070507@radiom.fr>
	<ltc7s2$se9$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <53FA0A84.9090304@radiom.fr>


Le 24/08/2014 10:30, Dean Sauer a ?crit :
> jack and the companion feces of pulseaudio are not present on my systems 
> or allowed, ever, period.

Wow.
That makes me want to post help on this list soooo badly next time you ask.
I mentioned JACK because the tool is JACK enabled, but that you could
also adapt it.

Adults on this list have, for the most part, already passed through that
anal stage you're talking about, and are able to accept constructive
help, even if it's not exactly on the strict path of the request. It's
called brainstorming. When it's not simply and politely ignored, it
often helps.