From aswin.1231 at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 12:50:16 2013 From: aswin.1231 at gmail.com (Ashwin Kumar) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:20:16 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source Message-ID: hi, please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation and configuration. i tried darkice and its not working. With Best -Ashwin. +91-9959166266 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aswin.1231 at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 12:54:36 2013 From: aswin.1231 at gmail.com (Ashwin Kumar) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:24:36 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source Message-ID: hi, please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation and configuration. i tried darkice and its not working. With Best -Ashwin. +91-9959166266 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xoneca+icecast at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 13:18:32 2013 From: xoneca+icecast at gmail.com (Xabier Oneca -- xOneca) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:18:32 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also available for Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for Ubuntu... 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > hi, > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation and > configuration. > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > With Best > -Ashwin. > +91-9959166266 > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > From artuch at speedy.com.ar Sat Jun 1 18:38:33 2013 From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch) Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 15:38:33 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi?: > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also available for > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for Ubuntu... > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > hi, > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation and > > configuration. If you want to work without graphical interface, then I can guide you a little about Ices2. > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > With Best > > -Ashwin. > > +91-9959166266 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > From s04d.1982 at gmail.com Sat Jun 1 19:37:13 2013 From: s04d.1982 at gmail.com (Don Soad) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 14:37:13 -0500 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6770463681599290029@unknownmsgid> I wrote down a how to a long time ago, it might be useful for you. soad1982.blogspot.com On 01/06/2013, at 07:50, Ashwin Kumar wrote: > hi, > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation and configuration. > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > With Best > -Ashwin. > +91-9959166266 > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From aswin.1231 at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 04:28:55 2013 From: aswin.1231 at gmail.com (Ashwin Kumar) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:58:55 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: <6770463681599290029@unknownmsgid> References: <6770463681599290029@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: hi don, i liked your blog, its really filled with lot of info. i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. With Best -Ashwin. +91-9959166266 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Don Soad wrote: > I wrote down a how to a long time ago, it might be useful for you. > > soad1982.blogspot.com > > > On 01/06/2013, at 07:50, Ashwin Kumar wrote: > > > hi, > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation > and configuration. > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > With Best > > -Ashwin. > > +91-9959166266 > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aswin.1231 at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 04:29:34 2013 From: aswin.1231 at gmail.com (Ashwin Kumar) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:59:34 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> References: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> Message-ID: thank you Luis, i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. please guide me With Best -Ashwin. +91-9959166266 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote: > El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca escribi?: > > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also available for > > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for Ubuntu... > > > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > > hi, > > > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent > installation and > > > configuration. > > If you want to work without graphical interface, then I can guide you a > little about Ices2. > > > > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > > > With Best > > > -Ashwin. > > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Icecast mailing list > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Don't know if there are pre-built packages for Ubuntu... > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > hi, > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on ubuntu. > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent installation > and > > configuration. > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > With Best > > -Ashwin. > > +91-9959166266 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From artuch at speedy.com.ar Sun Jun 2 12:02:14 2013 From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:02:14 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: References: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> Message-ID: <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> El dom, 02-06-2013 a las 09:59 +0530, Ashwin Kumar escribi?: > thank you Luis, > > > i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. > > > > please guide me Ashwin, opens a terminal and runs sudo apt-get install ices2 After this we will continue by private mail. > > With Best > -Ashwin. > +91-9959166266 > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch > wrote: > El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca > escribi?: > > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also > available for > > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for > Ubuntu... > > > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > > hi, > > > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on > ubuntu. > > > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent > installation and > > > configuration. > > > If you want to work without graphical interface, then I can > guide you a > little about Ices2. > > > > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > > > With Best > > > -Ashwin. > > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Icecast mailing list > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > From aswin.1231 at gmail.com Sun Jun 2 12:14:19 2013 From: aswin.1231 at gmail.com (Ashwin Kumar) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:44:19 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> References: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> Message-ID: Thank you luis, i got it working with darkice. thank you all for your support. thank you very much. With Best -Ashwin. +91-9959166266 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote: > El dom, 02-06-2013 a las 09:59 +0530, Ashwin Kumar escribi?: > > thank you Luis, > > > > > > i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. > > > > > > > > please guide me > > Ashwin, opens a terminal and runs > > sudo apt-get install ices2 > > After this we will continue by private mail. > > > > With Best > > -Ashwin. > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch > > wrote: > > El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca > > escribi?: > > > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also > > available for > > > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for > > Ubuntu... > > > > > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on > > ubuntu. > > > > > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent > > installation and > > > > configuration. > > > > > > If you want to work without graphical interface, then I can > > guide you a > > little about Ices2. > > > > > > > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > > > > > With Best > > > > -Ashwin. > > > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Icecast mailing list > > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Icecast mailing list > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artuch at speedy.com.ar Sun Jun 2 12:30:00 2013 From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:30:00 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: References: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> Message-ID: <1370176200.1770.5.camel@jlaa> El dom, 02-06-2013 a las 17:44 +0530, Ashwin Kumar escribi?: > Thank you luis, > > > i got it working with darkice. > > > thank you all for your support. > > > thank you very much. Ok Ashwin, you're welcome. Greetings. Jos? Luis > > With Best > -Ashwin. > +91-9959166266 > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Jos? Luis Artuch > wrote: > El dom, 02-06-2013 a las 09:59 +0530, Ashwin Kumar escribi?: > > thank you Luis, > > > > > > i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. > > > > > > > > please guide me > > > Ashwin, opens a terminal and runs > > sudo apt-get install ices2 > > After this we will continue by private mail. > > > > With Best > > -Ashwin. > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch > > wrote: > > El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca > -- xOneca > > escribi?: > > > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's > also > > available for > > > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages > for > > Ubuntu... > > > > > > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : > > > > hi, > > > > > > > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to > run on > > ubuntu. > > > > > > > > it will be good if you can provide few options > with decent > > installation and > > > > configuration. > > > > > > If you want to work without graphical interface, > then I can > > guide you a > > little about Ices2. > > > > > > > > > > i tried darkice and its not working. > > > > > > > > With Best > > > > -Ashwin. > > > > +91-9959166266 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Icecast mailing list > > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Icecast mailing list > > > Icecast at xiph.org > > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From thedarkener at logicalnetworking.net Sun Jun 2 16:56:21 2013 From: thedarkener at logicalnetworking.net (TheDarkener) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] mp3 source In-Reply-To: <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> References: <1370111913.1767.9.camel@jlaa> <1370174534.1770.3.camel@jlaa> Message-ID: <51AB7935.2010905@logicalnetworking.net> >From http://icecast.org/ices.php : ices2 (version 2.0) source client for broadcasting in Ogg Vorbis format to an icecast2 server ices0 (deprecated) source client for broadcasting in MP3 format to an icecast2 server Cheers, Jordan On 06/02/2013 05:02 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote: > El dom, 02-06-2013 a las 09:59 +0530, Ashwin Kumar escribi?: >> thank you Luis, >> >> >> i need to send mp3 to icecast2 from ices live input. >> >> >> >> please guide me > Ashwin, opens a terminal and runs > > sudo apt-get install ices2 > > After this we will continue by private mail. >> With Best >> -Ashwin. >> +91-9959166266 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Jos? Luis Artuch >> wrote: >> El s?b, 01-06-2013 a las 15:18 +0200, Xabier Oneca -- xOneca >> escribi?: >> > We use butt (butt.sf.net) in Windows, but it's also >> available for >> > Linux. Don't know if there are pre-built packages for >> Ubuntu... >> > >> > 2013/6/1 Ashwin Kumar : >> > > hi, >> > > >> > > please suggest me a mp3 source for icecast to run on >> ubuntu. >> > > >> > > it will be good if you can provide few options with decent >> installation and >> > > configuration. >> >> >> If you want to work without graphical interface, then I can >> guide you a >> little about Ices2. >> >> > > >> > > i tried darkice and its not working. >> > > >> > > With Best >> > > -Ashwin. >> > > +91-9959166266 >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Icecast mailing list >> > > Icecast at xiph.org >> > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Icecast mailing list >> > Icecast at xiph.org >> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -- Jordan (PGP: 0xDA470FF8) From arvy2013 at livemix.com.br Thu Jun 6 16:13:54 2013 From: arvy2013 at livemix.com.br (Live Mix - Arvy) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:13:54 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast KH - question Message-ID: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> Hi there, we use IceCast KH on our webradio, no commercial. We have an issue that we dont know where to look. When listening using WinAmp (but in other players too like JW Player), after 70 or 90 minutes, we realize that the "green square" on top of WinAmp becomes a "red square". About 60 minutes after start, sometimes the "red square" blinks, and then more frequently. It happens with different internet connections and providers. Until 60 minutes, the broadcast is perfect. Can you give me an idea where to look or solve this issue? It's related to Icecast, or encoder, or internet connection, etc? Thank you Arvy / Live Mix / Brazil Live Mix www.livemix.com.br From thomas at ruecker.fi Sun Jun 9 08:17:30 2013 From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 08:17:30 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast KH - question In-Reply-To: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> References: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> Message-ID: <51B43A1A.6010007@ruecker.fi> Hi, On 06/06/2013 04:13 PM, Live Mix - Arvy wrote: > we use IceCast KH on our webradio, no commercial. Does that also happen with regular Icecast? > We have an issue that > we dont know where to look. When listening using WinAmp (but in other > players too like JW Player), after 70 or 90 minutes, we realize that the > "green square" on top of WinAmp becomes a "red square". About 60 minutes > after start, sometimes the "red square" blinks, and then more > frequently. It happens with different internet connections and > providers. Until 60 minutes, the broadcast is perfect. Is there anything else than 'a blinking red square'? What is the actual problem? > Can you give me an idea where to look or solve this issue? It's related > to Icecast, or encoder, or internet connection, etc? It's hard to give any sensible recommendations as I don't understand your problem. In general I can recommend to look at the Icecast error.log (especially lines marked EROR). Also please subscribe to the mailing list to ensure you receive all the answers to your email. Best regards Thomas B. Ruecker From thomas at ruecker.fi Sun Jun 9 08:19:45 2013 From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 08:19:45 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Opus vs. Vorbis In-Reply-To: <9ca2c9f6-cd81-4a4a-9adf-41a38d95858c@email.android.com> References: <51A8B717.1000102@logicalnetworking.net> <51A8C1DD.8090800@Heerema.net> <9ca2c9f6-cd81-4a4a-9adf-41a38d95858c@email.android.com> Message-ID: <51B43AA1.3050305@ruecker.fi> On 05/31/2013 04:48 PM, Gagarin Miljkovich wrote: > Hello Dennis! > > Please send me the links to your streams. I'm interested in the > audioquality. You can also check out: http://dir.xiph.org/by_format/Opus Best regards Thomas B. Ruecker > Dennis Heerema wrote: > > Hello Jordan, > > I run a test stream in OPUS format. > I find the quality of OPUS way better at low bitrates then VORBIS. > Thus better quality at lower bitrates, but also on higher bitrates the > codec sounds good. > > Latency is lower, but for broadcasting a radio program for me at the > moment it is not that importend, so i did not test that really with > icecast (i did test opus low latency but with other applications: > fideliphone and teamtalk) > > Stream runs stable, my stream is a transcode made by Liquidsoap, from a > transparent ogg vorbis stream (The reason i'm doing that is because i'm > transcoing also to mp3, vorbis aacplus at different bitrates). > > Input is a live stream from a studio to my main icecast server, on this > server i transcode with liquidsoap. Then every stream is relayed by two > public ic > ecast > servers where listener clients connect to. > > Running this for quite a while now and it is stable for all streams. > > The is one downside on OPUS at the moment, there are not that much > clients able to play opus, plus on track change the stream makes a > little frame noticeable dropout. I do not know wheather this is cased by > liquidsoap or the player. > > The quys from liquidsoap say it is a problem how the player implemented > the opus codec (VLC). > > If you want, you can listen to my (dutch streams, day hours non stop > music, evenings programms hosted by a announcer) streams, send my a > private message and i will send you al my diffrent stream links, so you > can compare. > > Kind regards, > > Dennis > > > > > Op 31-5-2013 16:43, TheDarkener schreef: > > Hi all, < br />I've been looking at opus lately as a > replacement to vorbis and it sure seems to me that, at least > on paper, it is the 'next generation' streaming codec. Has > anyone been using opus as a streaming codec to Icecast? If so, > how do the following general characteristics compare to > vorbis? + Quality + Latency + Bandwidth + Performance (on > stream client and Icecast server) + Stability Also, what use > case in your setup (voice only, music, pre-recorded files vs. > live input, ?) Any input is greatly appreciated. I understand > there is little support (compared to vorbis, anyway) for opus, > but I'm hoping to help change that at least a little bit. > Cheers, Jordan > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karl at xiph.org Sun Jun 9 12:35:23 2013 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 13:35:23 +0100 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast KH - question In-Reply-To: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> References: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> Message-ID: <51B4768B.6000104@xiph.org> On 06/06/13 17:13, Live Mix - Arvy wrote: > Hi there, > > we use IceCast KH on our webradio, no commercial. We have an issue that > we dont know where to look. When listening using WinAmp (but in other > players too like JW Player), after 70 or 90 minutes, we realize that the > "green square" on top of WinAmp becomes a "red square". About 60 minutes > after start, sometimes the "red square" blinks, and then more > frequently. It happens with different internet connections and > providers. Until 60 minutes, the broadcast is perfect. > > Can you give me an idea where to look or solve this issue? It's related > to Icecast, or encoder, or internet connection, etc? My initial guess would be the encoder sending rate being mismatched with the samplerate. When a player reports an issue it needs to be clear on what it is relating to, but I suspect it will be down to a starvation of the incoming data. Any issue within icecst here would should as an increased lag value for that listener on the admin page, icecast will send a lot faster than the source but is still subject to certain limits like CPU or may be a per-mount limit (limit-rate is set). If it is affecting multiple listeners at different locations at a consistent offset into the stream then the sending rate from the source is suspect. May be a 44k/48k mismatch or a bad clock on the source client. karl. From artuch at speedy.com.ar Sun Jun 9 17:11:55 2013 From: artuch at speedy.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Artuch) Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 14:11:55 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] Opus vs. Vorbis In-Reply-To: <51B43AA1.3050305@ruecker.fi> References: <51A8B717.1000102@logicalnetworking.net> <51A8C1DD.8090800@Heerema.net> <9ca2c9f6-cd81-4a4a-9adf-41a38d95858c@email.android.com> <51B43AA1.3050305@ruecker.fi> Message-ID: <1370797915.2516.11.camel@jlaa> El dom, 09-06-2013 a las 08:19 +0000, "Thomas B. R?cker" escribi?: > On 05/31/2013 04:48 PM, Gagarin Miljkovich wrote: > > > Hello Dennis! > > > > Please send me the links to your streams. I'm interested in the > > audioquality. > > You can also check out: > http://dir.xiph.org/by_format/Opus Hi Thomas Very interesting. One question about *Bitrate scalability*: Does the change from mono to stereo is keeping the same bandwidth (20 kHz) ?. > > Best regards > > Thomas B. Ruecker > > > Dennis Heerema wrote: > > Hello Jordan, > > > > I run a test stream in OPUS format. > > I find the quality of OPUS way better at low bitrates then VORBIS. > > Thus better quality at lower bitrates, but also on higher bitrates the > > codec sounds good. > > > > Latency is lower, but for broadcasting a radio program for me at the > > moment it is not that importend, so i did not test that really with > > icecast (i did test opus low latency but with other applications: > > fideliphone and teamtalk) > > > > Stream runs stable, my stream is a transcode made by Liquidsoap, from a > > transparent ogg vorbis stream (The reason i'm doing that is because i'm > > transcoing also to mp3, vorbis aacplus at different bitrates). > > > > Input is a live stream from a studio to my main icecast server, on this > > server i transcode with liquidsoap. Then every stream is relayed by two > > public ic > > ecast > > servers where listener clients connect to. > > > > Running this for quite a while now and it is stable for all streams. > > > > The is one downside on OPUS at the moment, there are not that much > > clients able to play opus, plus on track change the stream makes a > > little frame noticeable dropout. I do not know wheather this is cased by > > liquidsoap or the player. > > > > The quys from liquidsoap say it is a problem how the player implemented > > the opus codec (VLC). > > > > If you want, you can listen to my (dutch streams, day hours non stop > > music, evenings programms hosted by a announcer) streams, send my a > > private message and i will send you al my diffrent stream links, so you > > can compare. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > Op 31-5-2013 16:43, TheDarkener schreef: > > Hi all, > > < > > br > > />I've been looking at opus lately as a replacement to vorbis and it sure > > seems to me that, at least on paper, it is the 'next generation' > > streaming codec. Has anyone been using opus as a streaming codec to > > Icecast? If so, how do the following general characteristics compare to > > vorbis? > > > > + Quality > > + Latency > > + Bandwidth > > + Performance (on stream client and Icecast server) > > + Stability > > > > Also, what use case in your setup (voice only, music, pre-recorded files > > vs. live input, ?) Any input is greatly appreciated. I understand there > > is little support (compared to vorbis, anyway) for opus, but I'm hoping > > to help change that at least a little bit. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Jordan > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast at xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From winnjohnston at gmail.com Sun Jun 9 23:01:51 2013 From: winnjohnston at gmail.com (Winn Johnston) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 16:01:51 -0700 Subject: [Icecast] Sam Broadcaster Message-ID: Anyone use Sam Broadcaster and a personal icecast server? What are you using for a portable iphone, android player? Does the meta data push album art? Are there any problems that i should look out for? Thanks in Advance, -winn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arvy2013 at livemix.com.br Mon Jun 10 16:43:24 2013 From: arvy2013 at livemix.com.br (Live Mix - Arvy) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:43:24 -0300 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast KH - question In-Reply-To: <51B4768B.6000104@xiph.org> References: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> <51B4768B.6000104@xiph.org> Message-ID: <51B6022C.1060401@livemix.com.br> Hello Thomas and Karl, thank you for your answer and time. We've tested with several listeners and different connections, using WinAmp and JW Player. For about 15 minutes, everything is ok. After 15-18 minutes, WinAmp starts do blink that "red square" (packet loss or instability), and after about 20 minutes sounds starts to "pop", with small cuts, and then starts to cut a lot. I think the problem is progressive: more time, more cuts. We use SAM Broadcaster to encode AAC+ HE 48k. We're using the latest IceCast KH version, Win32. Other datail: all users have always "Lag: 0" on Admin interface If you want to listen what happens, if you can and have time (very appreciated) the stream is http://mp4.livemix.com.br/livemix - if possible using WinAmp. Wait about 15-20 minutes to see the problem. Any ideas I really appreciate, because we have about 100-200 listeners at same time we really don't know what to do :( Thanks a lot, Rogerio > On 06/06/13 17:13, Live Mix - Arvy wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> we use IceCast KH on our webradio, no commercial. We have an issue that >> we dont know where to look. When listening using WinAmp (but in other >> players too like JW Player), after 70 or 90 minutes, we realize that the >> "green square" on top of WinAmp becomes a "red square". About 60 minutes >> after start, sometimes the "red square" blinks, and then more >> frequently. It happens with different internet connections and >> providers. Until 60 minutes, the broadcast is perfect. >> >> Can you give me an idea where to look or solve this issue? It's related >> to Icecast, or encoder, or internet connection, etc? > > My initial guess would be the encoder sending rate being mismatched > with the samplerate. When a player reports an issue it needs to be > clear on what it is relating to, but I suspect it will be down to a > starvation of the incoming data. > > Any issue within icecst here would should as an increased lag value > for that listener on the admin page, icecast will send a lot faster > than the source but is still subject to certain limits like CPU or may > be a per-mount limit (limit-rate is set). > > If it is affecting multiple listeners at different locations at a > consistent offset into the stream then the sending rate from the > source is suspect. May be a 44k/48k mismatch or a bad clock on the > source client. > > karl. > > Live Mix www.livemix.com.br From thomas at ruecker.fi Tue Jun 11 06:16:37 2013 From: thomas at ruecker.fi (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:16:37 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] IceCast KH - question In-Reply-To: <51B6022C.1060401@livemix.com.br> References: <51B0B542.20802@livemix.com.br> <51B4768B.6000104@xiph.org> <51B6022C.1060401@livemix.com.br> Message-ID: <51B6C0C5.6080706@ruecker.fi> Hi, On 06/10/2013 04:43 PM, Live Mix - Arvy wrote: > Hello Thomas and Karl, thank you for your answer and time. > [?] > We use SAM Broadcaster to encode AAC+ HE 48k. We're using the latest > IceCast KH version, Win32. As I'm neither familiar with the KH version, nor with SAM I won't be of much help. > Other datail: all users have always "Lag: 0" on Admin interface That doesn't need to be a problem, but without full understanding it's hard to say. > If you want to listen what happens, if you can and have time (very > appreciated) the stream is http://mp4.livemix.com.br/livemix - if > possible using WinAmp. Wait about 15-20 minutes to see the problem. I've had this stream now running for about 1800s and have observed one peculiar thing, the cache-fill went constantly down from an initial 20% to now about 3%. I let it run a bit longer and this is what I get: Cache empty, {?} A:1938.8 (32:18.8) of 0.0 (unknown) 1.4% 0% I suspect that Winamp is signalling a low buffer by that red square. So, yes, that's why the players drop, the bitrate is a tiny bit lower than the playback rate. This means that over time a player will deplete the cache and inevitably either rebuffer or start to stutter. You can also force this to happen immediately if you disable buffering completely. As to the root cause I can only speculate it could be some KH specific feature or it can be that your source client has a problem. I can only repeat that it would be beneficial to try (maybe not on your production system) against vanilla Icecast. This would help narrow down the source of your problem. There is a windows build available of 2.4 beta3: http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/icecast/icecast_win32_2.4_beta3.zip For further information, see here: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast-dev/2013-April/002157.html > Any ideas I really appreciate, because we have about 100-200 listeners > at same time we really don't know what to do :( Personally I'd recommend to look at gradually switching to streaming Opus, it is at least as efficient as AAC+ and it can be also played back natively in Firefox and Opera using the