[Icecast] Listener Stats getting wrong IP

José Luis Artuch artuch at speedy.com.ar
Wed Nov 7 02:53:05 UTC 2012 

Ok Kurt, thank you !!

El mar, 06-11-2012 a las 10:38 -0700, Kurt escribió:
> Sorry for the slow response.      Today, I am swamped, hope to be able
> to help you tomorrow
> 
> Kurt
> LSDcode.com
> 801.599.1227
> 
> 
> On 11/5/2012 8:45 PM, José Luis Artuch wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Kurt, I have retested the Icecast server on port 8000 and it works
> > fine, but there remains the problem with the IP information from
> > listeners.
> > Last time I forgot to change data on the client Ices and for that
> > reason did not work.
> > 
> > Yes, here also the default port is 8000.
> > 
> > I send you two screenshots.
> > 
> > El lun, 05-11-2012 a las 17:12 -0700, Kurt escribió: 
> > 
> > > Send me a snap shot of your router GUI... I dont need any personal
> > > data, I just want to see
> > > what it allows you to do....I.E. port forwards....ect
> > > Routers are not set to any port in particular. The traffic that
> > > comes in assuming you have no ports
> > > blocked by your ISP, should allow you to direct ports...
> > > 
> > > Under residential carriers, Port 25 traffic-out is blocked,
> > > Clear.com, blocks basically all lower band ports
> > > I use Logmein to connect to my work station, this operates under a
> > > concept called Repeater.. There
> > > by, your carrier thinks its a request from you (modem) so its
> > > passed through
> > > 
> > > Also down load CPorts. I tells me what ports are open on the
> > > machine and who is lock on the port
> > > ops your not on windows, but I am sure there's something out there
> > > which will tell you what ports are
> > > being used... FireWall issues are something you want to look at it
> > > I also use Nmap (from outside)  to scan all ports. That way I am
> > > aware what ports my modem and
> > > or ISP are block. They will not be honest with you, so its best to
> > > get the data yourself
> > > 
> > > To the best of my knowledge (windows Icecast) is defaulted to
> > > 8000. Not sure about Linux.
> > > I have run those boxes, but have not in about a year so I am kinda
> > > forgetful.
> > > 
> > > What I dont know off hand is if 8500 is an html port. I.E. pushing
> > > a standard HTML through port
> > > 21 will back fire, it is a reserved port...
> > > Ports I have used for HTML are
> > > 
> > > 80
> > > 81
> > > 8080
> > > 8000
> > > 90
> > > 8081
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Unless your router is not the first in line, your router should
> > > respond to any port request....Its up to your system to
> > > respond...I.E. Software
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/5/2012 2:56 PM, José Luis Artuch wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Kurt, thank you very much again.
> > > > 
> > > > Listeners hear with the label HTML5. I use only open source
> > > > software and the system is very basic: Icecast audio server
> > > > mounted on Debian GNU/Linux on a Pentium IV machine with dynamic
> > > > IP.
> > > > 
> > > > I understand how the IP information from listeners is lost when
> > > > move from port 8000 to port 8500.
> > > > I am also self-taught, but with my current knowledge I do not
> > > > get to solve this problem, unless I change the modem/router by
> > > > another one that does not use the port 8000. This would be an
> > > > effective solution, but I try to solve the problem in a less
> > > > drastic way.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any way that the Icecast server also listens on port
> > > > 8000 ?.
> > > > I've tried to open port 8000 for the Icecast server, but Icecast
> > > > on this port has not worked and I've also lost the HTTP
> > > > connection to the modem/router and I've had to use Telnet to
> > > > return everything back ... uuffff
> > > > 
> > > > El lun, 05-11-2012 a las 07:23 -0700, Kurt escribió: 
> > > > 
> > > > > In a nut shell..
> > > > > 
> > > > > When a user goes to your port 8000, there is CONTENT in the
> > > > > Header... This content includes a lot of data, I.E. IP, OS
> > > > > Browser, ect
> > > > > 
> > > > > When you translate off of 8000 to 8500, you are dropping the
> > > > > content and are replacing it with Content from 8500, thus
> > > > > since 8500 is local, you will not get the outside information
> > > > > Question is, you should have IceCast listen to 8000..
> > > > > Otherwise your content headers will be wrong
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there a reason you do this, While I am not a nuclear
> > > > > brain... Self taught over 30 years, I know what works.. It has
> > > > > to be a straight shot from outside to IceCast. Otherwise the
> > > > > data is lost
> > > > > In theory.. If folks are going to your IceCast Directory, and
> > > > > launching the M3u, you should have this information passed to
> > > > > the logs, as the User is using a player on his end
> > > > > 
> > > > > How are your users hearing the music
> > > > > is it Flash, Html5 or the uses player
> > > > > 
> > > > > I use Port forwarding
> > > > > 
> > > > > So............ I have 6 servers at first location, depending
> > > > > on what has to be served to the public, determines the port
> > > > > Example
> > > > > AmericanMusiciansRadio.com by its self responds to port 80.
> > > > > Port 80 is forwarded to the WebServer
> > > > > Port 8081 is to another box
> > > > > Port 90 is another box
> > > > > Port 21 is another
> > > > > Port 443 to another
> > > > > ect ect
> > > > > 
> > > > > I use virtual hosting. Thus I have one Static IP and use the
> > > > > HTML headers to steer to the domain. Included in the headers
> > > > > are the domains that are being requested
> > > > > This is done through Apache
> > > > > 
> > > > > These boxes are all separate INTRANET, I use Vmware to get
> > > > > several Guest OS's in a box, boxes are Racks There are so many
> > > > > used commercial boxes out there, (CHEAP) I stopped buying
> > > > > towers a long time ago
> > > > > When you listen to AMR.Alaska, and are hitting me from
> > > > > AmericanMusiciansRadio.com, Flash is getting its feed from the
> > > > > IceCast server at another location
> > > > > the feed is originating at AMRStream.com:8000 which is sitting
> > > > > at data center with 1 gig up and down. At that location are 7
> > > > > servers, most of which are running players to feed IceCast.
> > > > > There is a license (free from Vmware) for up to 4 separate
> > > > > Sockets, 16 cores..... 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hope that helps
> > > > > 
> > > > > if you want to call, thats kewl, anything I can do....would
> > > > > love to help
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kurt
> > > > > LSDcode.com
> > > > > 801.599.1227
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 11/5/2012 6:57 AM, José Luis Artuch wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Kurt, thank you very much for the reply.
> > > > > > Now I am listening AMR.Alaska  :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: 8000 is to access the modem/router and
> > > > > > configure it. I tried to change it but I can not find the way.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > With Icecast server running on port 8500, listeners data (ID, browser,
> > > > > > OS, etc.) are correct, except your IP:
> > > > > > http://www.fmcristal3arroyos.com.ar/z/irudi.php
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I do not understand what is the problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > El lun, 05-11-2012 a las 06:24 -0700, Kurt escribió:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Okay, Am on desk top so I can address better
> > > > > > > Example, AmericanMusicansRadio.com is a web site that uses port 80 to
> > > > > > > respond to... Standard HTML port.
> > > > > > > When Flash is loaded to play, it loads AmrStream.com:8000. Thus ice
> > > > > > > cast thinks the port of origin is AmericanMusiciansRadio.com and all I
> > > > > > > see in the statistics is the IP of the webserver.
> > > > > > > So the trick is, you want IceCast to listen to Port 8000, thus the
> > > > > > > content from the HTML (ie. browser, ip OS ect) has the data and it
> > > > > > > becomes part of the stats
> > > > > > > Otherwise, IceCast will do what I have shown in my example
> > > > > > > So. Have IceCast listen on the port they are coming into
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Kurt
> > > > > > > LSDcode.com
> > > > > > > 801.599.1227
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am confused.... if folks are coming in at 8000,
> > > > > > and is cast is listening on 8500, then the point of origin is 8500 not
> > > > > > 8000, thus ice cast is thinking its all local
> > > > > > Amrstream.com:8000
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 11/5/2012 5:49 AM, José Luis Artuch wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hello !!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have a modem/router which is accessed through port 8000 like
> > > > > > > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8000, then I put the Icecast server on port 8500.
> > > > > > > > Everything works fine except one thing in the statistics of the
> > > > > > > > listeners: all listeners are listed with the same IP, the Icecast
> > > > > > > > server's IP, not the IP that really have each one of them.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Can I change something in the Icecast server to correct this
> > > > > > > > problem ?.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > zenbaki 
> > > > > > > > 
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