From jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jan 13 11:29:53 2011
From: jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk (jasmine wynne)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:29:53 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
Message-ID: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

please can you tell me how i can get listeners to listen to my station do i need to register it with someone ,and has it got a wave number so people can get it please help  i have downloaded the software and it says running in the icemaster box ,,,many thanks john ,,galaxy disco


      


From acandido at hi-iberia.es  Thu Jan 13 11:53:55 2011
From: acandido at hi-iberia.es (Andres Gonzalez)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:53:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4D2EE7D3.10303@hi-iberia.es>

Hello,

I'm afraid I can't help you much right now, I don't understand your 
problem in detail.

On 13/01/11 12:29, jasmine wynne wrote:
> please can you tell me how i can get listeners to listen to my station do i need to register it with someone ,and has it got a wave number so people can get it please help
You don't need to register anything to use Icecast. You set up Icecast 
in a server, send a stream to that server with, for example, oggfwd or 
VLC, specifying a mountpoint. Listeners just need to know your server's 
domain name or IP and the mount point.

>    i have downloaded the software and it says running in the icemaster box

Are you sure you are writing to the right list? I don't know what is the 
"icemaster box"

> ,,,many thanks john ,,galaxy disco
>
>

I hope this helps a little. Feel free to ask further questions.
Regards,
Andr?s

>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From michel.memeteau at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 12:58:27 2011
From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:58:27 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=64mAasE74ZRuHeAZh932f+KEB9ExNDRVfJVaV@mail.gmail.com>

Hi , simple :

if you installed Icecast on default port 8000 , you just go to
http://youserver:8000 and will see the links to the playlist that you
can give to your listeners

2011/1/13 jasmine wynne <jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk>:
> please can you tell me how i can get listeners to listen to my station do i need to register it with someone ,and has it got a wave number so people can get it please help ?i have downloaded the software and it says running in the icemaster box ,,,many thanks john ,,galaxy disco
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>



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From michel.memeteau at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 16:10:28 2011
From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:10:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <428396.278.qm@web28515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTi=64mAasE74ZRuHeAZh932f+KEB9ExNDRVfJVaV@mail.gmail.com>
	<428396.278.qm@web28515.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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2011/1/13 jasmine wynne <jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk>:
> hi there whats default port 8000 i cant get the link you sent for youserver8000 many thanks j

Hi If you did not understand that you had to replace "youserver" with
the real adresse of your server...........?

What the domain name of your server ?

please reply on the list.

>
> --- On Thu, 13/1/11, michel memeteau <michel.memeteau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: michel memeteau <michel.memeteau at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Icecast] (no subject)
>> To: "jasmine wynne" <jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: icecast at xiph.org
>> Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 12:58
>> Hi , simple :
>>
>> if you installed Icecast on default port 8000 , you just go
>> to
>> http://youserver:8000 and will see the links to the
>> playlist that you
>> can give to your listeners
>>
>> 2011/1/13 jasmine wynne <jwynne2007 at yahoo.co.uk>:
>> > please can you tell me how i can get listeners to
>> listen to my station do i need to register it with someone
>> ,and has it got a wave number so people can get it please
>> help ?i have downloaded the software and it says running in
>> the icemaster box ,,,many thanks john ,,galaxy disco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Icecast mailing list
>> > Icecast at xiph.org
>> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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From keith at karsites.net  Thu Jan 13 19:10:20 2011
From: keith at karsites.net (Keith Roberts)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:10:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4D2EE7D3.10303@hi-iberia.es>
References: <343508.72254.qm@web28511.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<4D2EE7D3.10303@hi-iberia.es>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1101131908340.3281@karsites.localdomain>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Andres Gonzalez wrote:

> To: icecast at xiph.org
> From: Andres Gonzalez <acandido at hi-iberia.es>
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] (no subject)
> 
> Hello,
>
> I'm afraid I can't help you much right now, I don't understand your
> problem in detail.
>
> On 13/01/11 12:29, jasmine wynne wrote:
>> please can you tell me how i can get listeners to listen 
>> to my station do i need to register it with someone ,and 
>> has it got a wave number so people can get it please help
> You don't need to register anything to use Icecast. You 
> set up Icecast in a server, send a stream to that server 
> with, for example, oggfwd or VLC, specifying a mountpoint. 
> Listeners just need to know your server's domain name or 
> IP and the mount point.

You can also use ices to transfer your audio stream to 
your icecast server:

http://www.icecast.org/ices.php

http://www.centova.com/pages/icescc

HTH

Keith

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From howard at emprendedoresnicas.net  Sat Jan 15 10:51:19 2011
From: howard at emprendedoresnicas.net (Howard Gonzalez)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 04:51:19 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] information
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmzEqcZKD4Fn=mBhDeFLjZr6P3Hb1L6cQmVPkw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everybody, i'm new en icecast, in fact, i don't know nothing about
this software.

I'm Nicaraguan, in Central America. This Radio
http://www.radio-corporacion.com/principal.php is a local radio. They use
icecast from http://radioneer.com:8750/, but I don?t know what to do for add
my radio http://www.radiocamoapa.com to http://radioneer.com:8750/ and i can
use its streaming without to have what download m3u file. What do i have to
do ?? Thanks.

-- 
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Cel: (505) 8662-9441(Claro)
mail: howard at emprendedoresnicas.net
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From acandido at hi-iberia.es  Tue Jan 18 18:07:13 2011
From: acandido at hi-iberia.es (Andres Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:07:13 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] information
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimmzEqcZKD4Fn=mBhDeFLjZr6P3Hb1L6cQmVPkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimmzEqcZKD4Fn=mBhDeFLjZr6P3Hb1L6cQmVPkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D35D6D1.6000102@hi-iberia.es>

Hello from Spain,

On 15/01/11 11:51, Howard Gonzalez wrote:
> Hello everybody, i'm new en icecast, in fact, i don't know nothing 
> about this software.
>
> I'm Nicaraguan, in Central America. This Radio 
> http://www.radio-corporacion.com/principal.php is a local radio. They 
> use icecast from http://radioneer.com:8750/, but I don?t know what to 
> do for add my radio http://www.radiocamoapa.com to 
> http://radioneer.com:8750/ and i can use its streaming without to have 
> what download m3u file. What do i have to do ?? Thanks.
>
So, if I understand you, you have a radio (this is, you collaborate in 
the production of that radio) and want to "broadcast" it also through 
http://radioneer.com:8750/ , right?

If I'm not missing something, you need a PC with some soundcard that 
allows you to record the sound from your radio, some basic live 
recording software, and a tool like oggfwd, VLC, or ices, to send this 
audio to them. You need also to get in contact ith the people who manage 
radioneer.com, in order to get the Icecast password that allows you to 
send your streaming.

Sorry, I don't understand the problem with m3u files.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Andr?s
> -- 
> Att. Howard Gonzalez
> Cel: (505) 8662-9441(Claro)
> mail: howard at emprendedoresnicas.net <mailto:howard at emprendedoresnicas.net>
> Managua, Nicaragua
>
>
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> Icecast at xiph.org
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T: 91 458 51 19 (ext:165)
M: 620 344 358
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From howard at emprendedoresnicas.net  Tue Jan 18 23:53:00 2011
From: howard at emprendedoresnicas.net (Howard Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:53:00 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] information
In-Reply-To: <4D35D6D1.6000102@hi-iberia.es>
References: <AANLkTimmzEqcZKD4Fn=mBhDeFLjZr6P3Hb1L6cQmVPkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D35D6D1.6000102@hi-iberia.es>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimK_6XP8uf2WqM43PHMto9-4YiEHbyDo1-LB59J@mail.gmail.com>

Hola Andres. gracias por tu colaboracion, ya resolvi el tema, utilizo
joomla1.5.22 como CMS, asi que encontre un modulo que me permite hacer
streaming con icecast, se llama mini radio.

Saludos

El 18 de enero de 2011 12:07, Andres Gonzalez <acandido at hi-iberia.es>escribi?:

>  Hello from Spain,
>
>
> On 15/01/11 11:51, Howard Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Hello everybody, i'm new en icecast, in fact, i don't know nothing about
> this software.
>
> I'm Nicaraguan, in Central America. This Radio
> http://www.radio-corporacion.com/principal.php is a local radio. They use
> icecast from http://radioneer.com:8750/, but I don?t know what to do for
> add my radio http://www.radiocamoapa.com to http://radioneer.com:8750/ and
> i can use its streaming without to have what download m3u file. What do i
> have to do ?? Thanks.
>
>  So, if I understand you, you have a radio (this is, you collaborate in the
> production of that radio) and want to "broadcast" it also through
> http://radioneer.com:8750/ , right?
>
> If I'm not missing something, you need a PC with some soundcard that allows
> you to record the sound from your radio, some basic live recording software,
> and a tool like oggfwd, VLC, or ices, to send this audio to them. You need
> also to get in contact ith the people who manage radioneer.com, in order
> to get the Icecast password that allows you to send your streaming.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand the problem with m3u files.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Andr?s
>
> --
> Att. Howard Gonzalez
> Cel: (505) 8662-9441(Claro)
> mail: howard at emprendedoresnicas.net
> Managua, Nicaragua
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing listIcecast at xiph.orghttp://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
>
> --
> Andr?s Gonz?lez
>
> T: 91 458 51 19 (ext:165)
> M: 620 344 358
> HI-IBERIA INGENIERIA Y PROYECTOS
> C/ Bolivia 5 - Madrid - 28016
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>


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From ian.bonham at gmail.com  Wed Jan 26 10:57:41 2011
From: ian.bonham at gmail.com (Ian Bonham)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Local & Relay
Message-ID: <AANLkTikj5wUU+rMm7MszjE=SqTunpiQwLAqXGU27MTP3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm new to the list, and I wonder if someone could offer some advice
please or point me to a previous thread about this in the archives?

I work for a Radio station on the Costa Del Sol in Spain, and
currently we're using DarkIce to take an audio feed (over USB) from
our desk into DarkIce and then sending up to a hosted IceCast2 server.
This works perfectly, and I have a cronjob programmed to start a new
feed every hour as we also record each hour for logging purposes.

Now however, some presenters wish to do their shows from home or
remote locations. They are only really technically able to use
SimpleCast.

My theoretical solution is to install IceCast on my streaming machine,
and have them connect to mountpoints on that. The stream may well be
arriving at the main studio in OGG (if I get my way!). Then I think
I'll need IceCast to make that stream available on a port on 127.0.0.1
at some random address as it's behind the studios firewall. Then I'll
need something on the machine to play the stream on that port on the
machine to stdout, and have DarkIce read the stream from stdin as
opposed to playing from the USB Virtual Soundcard the desk is attached
to. This can then send to our hosted IceCast server.

I 'could' just have IceCast running on the streaming computer, working
as a relay to our hosted server I guess, and switch the relay source
from Local Audio Card to a Local Icecast mount point, but I'm not sure
how I would set this up.

The hosted server is on Centova and is not that flexible through their
control panels as far as I can see, so ideally I would just like to
send them one stream to one mountpoint and switch the sources in my
main studios.

Has anyone tried this sort of thing before, and can you suggest any
methods please?

Many thanks,

Ian Bonham


From geoff at QuiteLikely.com  Wed Jan 26 20:08:38 2011
From: geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:08:38 +0200 (IST)
Subject: [Icecast] Local & Relay
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikj5wUU+rMm7MszjE=SqTunpiQwLAqXGU27MTP3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikj5wUU+rMm7MszjE=SqTunpiQwLAqXGU27MTP3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101262150310.4199@data.home>

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Ian Bonham wrote:

> I work for a Radio station on the Costa Del Sol in Spain, and
> currently we're using DarkIce to take an audio feed (over USB) from
> our desk into DarkIce and then sending up to a hosted IceCast2 server.
> This works perfectly, and I have a cronjob programmed to start a new
> feed every hour as we also record each hour for logging purposes.
>
> Now however, some presenters wish to do their shows from home or
> remote locations. They are only really technically able to use
> SimpleCast.
>
> My theoretical solution is to install IceCast on my streaming machine,
> and have them connect to mountpoints on that. The stream may well be
> arriving at the main studio in OGG (if I get my way!). Then I think
> I'll need IceCast to make that stream available on a port on 127.0.0.1
> at some random address as it's behind the studios firewall.

By default, Icecast will bind to all available interfaces, so you should 
be able to reach it at 127.0.0.1 even if it's also on a public IP address.

> Then I'll
> need something on the machine to play the stream on that port on the
> machine to stdout, and have DarkIce read the stream from stdin as
> opposed to playing from the USB Virtual Soundcard the desk is attached
> to. This can then send to our hosted IceCast server.

You could do this, but it would require getting Darkice to drop and 
reconnect, which you may not want to do.  It also would mean some kind of 
co-ordination between the drop/reconnect and the remote broadcaster 
connecting, a recipe for trouble if say they don't show on time for 
example.

> I 'could' just have IceCast running on the streaming computer, working
> as a relay to our hosted server I guess, and switch the relay source
> from Local Audio Card to a Local Icecast mount point, but I'm not sure
> how I would set this up.

If you wanted to go this route, you could use fallback mounts to achieve 
this.  But all streams would have to be in the same format.

> The hosted server is on Centova and is not that flexible through their
> control panels as far as I can see, so ideally I would just like to
> send them one stream to one mountpoint and switch the sources in my
> main studios.

Makes sense.

> Has anyone tried this sort of thing before, and can you suggest any
> methods please?
>
The other option, and it's one you may want to consider, is have somehting 
local play the incoming stream through your desk and encode as usual. 
This way, you're completely in control of the process and the remote 
signal only goes through when it's meant to.  But I guess this depends 
what you use for playout etc.  And of course it means you reencode, but 
you may need to do that anyway.

Geoff.



From xaiki at evilgiggle.com  Fri Jan 28 07:26:50 2011
From: xaiki at evilgiggle.com (Niv Sardi)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:26:50 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Mountpoint "disappearing" ?
References: <20101207130927.657a9ac3@nienor.crbn.intra>
Message-ID: <87pqrhzdxh.fsf@evilgiggle.com>

Emmanuel Lesouef <e.lesouef at crbn.fr> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to get the following project to work :
>
> * acquisition from video acqusition card using vlc
> * vlc transcode to theora/vorbis and sends it to an icecast2 server
[...]
> How can I troubleshoot this issue ?

I've tried reproducing your issue with my webcam and couldn't:
cvlc v4l:///dev/video0 --sout
'#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=800,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=source:hackyou at localhost:8000/live.ogg}'

but, I could see that the stream that gets out of my icecast has pts all
wrong, and no player seems to be able to correct them.

* does this happen with any capture source (try other machines, other
  capture cards)
* does this happen at particular times ? (i.e. in your log you read:
> DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node total_bytes_read (69615)

I got down to:
| DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node total_bytes_read (3117500)

without reproducing.)

* try splitting the problem, recording your muxed ogg from VLC to a
  file, and then streaming that (big) file back.

Cheers,
-- 
Niv Sardi



From michel.memeteau at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 09:54:10 2011
From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:54:10 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikiZSX_muG4ZQ6No4+_Y1GsdX=bKyUCaz39hix_@mail.gmail.com>

Hello , We are using Icecast for few years in a small french radio
station with great success ! ( hitting 60 simultaneous listeners
sometimes :-)  )

http://www.radiogalere.org:8080/

Now we plan to stream the webcam capture of the studio, we 've done a
test with Ogv/theora @128kb video with great sucess although none of
the HTML5 browser wher able to keep on playing the stream after few
hours, only standalone players could ( like VLC)


So before launching this new stream, we are wondering if Webm could be
a better option ( at least when FF4 will be spread) but we don't want
to use another stream server such as flumotion just for this stream
and would like to carry on using icecast.

Is there some evolution on Webm support, does it need a lot of changes
in Libshout for example ? or does the code structure of icecast makes
it easy to add new containers/codecs ?

thx for this great piece of Libre software !

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From toots at rastageeks.org  Mon Jan 31 02:03:40 2011
From: toots at rastageeks.org (Romain Beauxis)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:03:40 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikiZSX_muG4ZQ6No4+_Y1GsdX=bKyUCaz39hix_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikiZSX_muG4ZQ6No4+_Y1GsdX=bKyUCaz39hix_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201101302003.41006.toots@rastageeks.org>

Le dimanche 30 janvier 2011 03:54:10, michel memeteau a ?crit :
> Is there some evolution on Webm support, does it need a lot of changes
> in Libshout for example ? or does the code structure of icecast makes
> it easy to add new containers/codecs ?

Well the interesting question is: "Is webm streamable?". I don't know much 
about it nut webm is wrapped into a matroska-based container which I am not 
sure is streamable, maybe someone more knowledgable could comment on that..

Alternatively, there seems to be a ogg mapping for vp8 floating around:
  http://people.collabora.co.uk/~slomo/webm/ogg-vp8.pdf
If WebM turns out to not be streamable, then this mapping could be used and 
would work in icecast. Howver you would need to implement its parsing in the 
clients..


Romain


From kent1 at arscenic.info  Mon Jan 31 02:13:14 2011
From: kent1 at arscenic.info (Quentin Drouet)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 03:13:14 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikowys7b+0pTEf4_h1EytaYLEvqqcdfQe5q=u_X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikiZSX_muG4ZQ6No4+_Y1GsdX=bKyUCaz39hix_@mail.gmail.com>
	<201101302003.41006.toots@rastageeks.org>
	<AANLkTikowys7b+0pTEf4_h1EytaYLEvqqcdfQe5q=u_X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinX3oNmXFp6v23G8s1Xy-nf+H49xmBKpdTtirzt@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I replied in private ...



2011/1/31 Quentin Drouet <kent1 at arscenic.info>

>
>
> 2011/1/31 Romain Beauxis <toots at rastageeks.org>
>
> Le dimanche 30 janvier 2011 03:54:10, michel memeteau a ?crit :
>> > Is there some evolution on Webm support, does it need a lot of changes
>> > in Libshout for example ? or does the code structure of icecast makes
>> > it easy to add new containers/codecs ?
>>
>> Well the interesting question is: "Is webm streamable?". I don't know much
>> about it nut webm is wrapped into a matroska-based container which I am
>> not
>> sure is streamable, maybe someone more knowledgable could comment on
>> that..
>>
>
> I think flumotion has allready the support for webm streaming ... maybe in
> the commercial version ...
>
> But I've read something about that I think
>


Here :
http://www.flumotion.com/blog/flumotion-provides-first-webm-vp8-live-stream-48-hours-after-google-release


> kent1
>

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From toots at rastageeks.org  Mon Jan 31 02:40:32 2011
From: toots at rastageeks.org (Romain Beauxis)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:40:32 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
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Le dimanche 30 janvier 2011 20:13:14, vous avez ?crit :
> Here :
> http://www.flumotion.com/blog/flumotion-provides-first-webm-vp8-live-stream
> -48-hours-after-google-release

I've been skimming through their source-code, its seems that they are using 
gstreamer's webm muxer plugin. (Note: there's not much to brag about their 
"technology" in this case..)

I suspect that there is work to do to provide a proper header/container for 
each client. Thus, I think that they must start a muxing thread for each 
client. 

In this case, there would be quite some work to do in icecast to support webm 
streaming.

Romain


From marquis at roble.com  Mon Jan 31 04:09:37 2011
From: marquis at roble.com (Roger Marquis)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:09:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
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> In this case, there would be quite some work to do in icecast to support webm
> streaming.

Either way it would be good if any new capacity could be enabled or
disabled at compile-time (autoconf's --without-PACKAGE).

Roger Marquis


From michel.memeteau at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 09:29:04 2011
From: michel.memeteau at gmail.com (michel memeteau)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:29:04 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Any roadmap on WebM Support ?
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Hi !

2011/1/31 Romain Beauxis <toots at rastageeks.org>:
> Well the interesting question is: "Is webm streamable?".

Well it seems to ma that Google made Webm especially for streaming and
I've even read that it should be easier to stream webm than ogg for
various reasons.

> Alternatively, there seems to be a ogg mapping for vp8 floating around:
> ?http://people.collabora.co.uk/~slomo/webm/ogg-vp8.pdf
> If WebM turns out to not be streamable, then this mapping could be used and
> would work in icecast. Howver you would need to implement its parsing in the
> clients..

But OGG/vp8 wouldn't be supported corretly by all clients. the
"advantage" of webm is that it's supposed to embed always the same
video and audio codec.



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