From bino at indoakses-online.com  Mon Nov  1 10:17:12 2010
From: bino at indoakses-online.com (Bino Oetomo)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:17:12 +0700
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
Message-ID: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>


Dear All ...
I have AXIS camera with output mjpeg format.

I try to relay it to outside world using ffmpeg and it work
The recipe is taken from 
http://www.daantje.nl/2007/05/07/convert-axis-webcam-stream-to-flash-swfflv/

Now .. I want to do it the otherway with Icecast

I try with wget -nv -O - http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg 
| ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd  192.168.10.232  
8000 hackme /matamerapi

the access log said that there is "source" access ...

But when I try to see the active mount point .... there is no active 
mount point listed.

I step back and just try to use VLC to play a wmv movie and stream it to 
the same mount point ....
It work properly, means ... the mount point is listed as active .. and I 
can see the show from other station.

I also tried to forward the ffmeg2theora output using ezstream with : 
ezstream -c ./matamerapi.xml .... same result , the mountpoint is not 
listed.

My xml for ezstream is below :
-----START----
<ezstream>
    <url>http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi</url>
    <sourcepassword>bino262</sourcepassword>
    <format>THEORA</format>
    <filename>stdin</filename>
    <stream_once>1</stream_once>
    <svrinfoname>My Stream</svrinfoname>
    <svrinfourl>http://www.oddsock.org</svrinfourl>
    <svrinfogenre>Other</svrinfogenre>
    <svrinfodescription>Mata Merapi</svrinfodescription>
    <svrinfopublic>0</svrinfopublic>
</ezstream>
----STOP-------

Kindlyplease give me your enlightment to fix this problem

Sincerely
-bino-


From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Mon Nov  1 10:21:03 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:21:03 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
Message-ID: <20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 05:17:12PM +0700, Bino Oetomo wrote:
> Now .. I want to do it the otherway with Icecast
> 
> I try with wget -nv -O - http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg 
> | ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd  192.168.10.232  
> 8000 hackme /matamerapi

instead of oggfwd, redirect the output to a file and see if that 
can be opened. 

> the access log said that there is "source" access ...
turn up your logging to debug and look what happens _after_ you connect.
Maybe the source is getting dropped briefly after connecting for some
reason?

Cheers

Thomas


From leo.currie at gmail.com  Mon Nov  1 15:29:57 2010
From: leo.currie at gmail.com (Leo Currie)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:29:57 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=VSRz1WHD4A_H4Gaw7ac_q8joPg3tV+OPA71Pt@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if you perhaps intended to obfuscate these for the purposes
of email, but in ezstream you are using a different source password to
oggfwd.

- Leo

On 1 November 2010 10:17, Bino Oetomo <bino at indoakses-online.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All ...
> I have AXIS camera with output mjpeg format.
>
> I try to relay it to outside world using ffmpeg and it work
> The recipe is taken from
> http://www.daantje.nl/2007/05/07/convert-axis-webcam-stream-to-flash-swfflv/
>
> Now .. I want to do it the otherway with Icecast
>
> I try with wget -nv -O - http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg
> | ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd ?192.168.10.232
> 8000 hackme /matamerapi
>
> the access log said that there is "source" access ...
>
> But when I try to see the active mount point .... there is no active
> mount point listed.
>
> I step back and just try to use VLC to play a wmv movie and stream it to
> the same mount point ....
> It work properly, means ... the mount point is listed as active .. and I
> can see the show from other station.
>
> I also tried to forward the ffmeg2theora output using ezstream with :
> ezstream -c ./matamerapi.xml .... same result , the mountpoint is not
> listed.
>
> My xml for ezstream is below :
> -----START----
> <ezstream>
> ? ?<url>http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi</url>
> ? ?<sourcepassword>bino262</sourcepassword>
> ? ?<format>THEORA</format>
> ? ?<filename>stdin</filename>
> ? ?<stream_once>1</stream_once>
> ? ?<svrinfoname>My Stream</svrinfoname>
> ? ?<svrinfourl>http://www.oddsock.org</svrinfourl>
> ? ?<svrinfogenre>Other</svrinfogenre>
> ? ?<svrinfodescription>Mata Merapi</svrinfodescription>
> ? ?<svrinfopublic>0</svrinfopublic>
> </ezstream>
> ----STOP-------
>
> Kindlyplease give me your enlightment to fix this problem
>
> Sincerely
> -bino-
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


From walter.oosie at online.nl  Mon Nov  1 20:35:45 2010
From: walter.oosie at online.nl (Walter)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:35:45 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
Message-ID: <AD561AE1925748C1BDC1DF9CF638958C@HP550>

Good day,

My name is Walter, admin of our Dutch Internet Radio station Radio Carpe Diem.
www.radio-carpediem.nl

We are operating with a chatbox on mIRC www.ircworld.nl #CarpeDiem
In this room we used to run an eggdrop linking our stream, but now it accures that it won't run on our new 
server CentovaCast via Icecast.
our url is http://91.198.27.220:8054/stream and it do not catch on.the live streaming, only the auto DJ modus.

Can you please help us out, while we are desperate looking for our eggdrop to run through icecast.

Thanks in advance,

Walter van Oostendorp
Harry Sarfati
Radio Carpe Diem, The Netherlands
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From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Mon Nov  1 22:02:20 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:02:20 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <AD561AE1925748C1BDC1DF9CF638958C@HP550>
References: <AD561AE1925748C1BDC1DF9CF638958C@HP550>
Message-ID: <20101101220220.GD15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 09:35:45PM +0100, Walter wrote:
> Can you please help us out, while we are desperate looking for our eggdrop to run through icecast.
if you are just looking for the now playing info a xslt file like this might help you:
http://www.ruecker-itk.de/foss/icecast/xslt/rds.xsl

Just change it to reflect your mount-name and place it in the web-root.
Can't help you with your eggdrop itself. But the output from the above mentioned xslt is trivial to parse, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Cheers

Thomas


From bino at indoakses-online.com  Tue Nov  2 01:08:52 2010
From: bino at indoakses-online.com (Bino Oetomo)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:08:52 +0700
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
Message-ID: <4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>

Dear Thomas

Thomas B. Ruecker wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 05:17:12PM +0700, Bino Oetomo wrote:
>   
>> Now .. I want to do it the otherway with Icecast
>>
>> I try with wget -nv -O - http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg 
>> | ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd  192.168.10.232  
>> 8000 hackme /matamerapi
>>     
>
> instead of oggfwd, redirect the output to a file and see if that 
> can be opened. 
>
>   
What file type that proper for this test ?

>> the access log said that there is "source" access ...
>>     
> turn up your logging to debug and look what happens _after_ you connect.
> Maybe the source is getting dropped briefly after connecting for some
> reason?
>
>   
Ok .. I did it.

I re-try the encoding with

bino at bino:~$ wget -nv http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg | 
ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd 192.168.10.232 8000 
bino262 /matamerapi

the console output is :

File `neric' does not exist or has an unknown data format.
oggfwd: Connected to server
oggfwd: Quitting ...
oggfwd: Total bytes read: 0

While the icecast2's error log said :

----START-----
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source 
logging in at mountpoint "/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG connection/connection_complete_source sources 
count is 0
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_apply_mount Applying mount 
information for "/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings fallback 
/example2.ogg
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings Dumping stream 
to /tmp/dump-matamerapi
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings connect script 
"/home/icecast/bin/stream-start"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings disconnect 
script "/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings public set to 0
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings max listeners to 10
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings queue size to 
524288
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings burst size to 65536
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings source timeout 
to 10
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_update_settings 
fallback_when_full to 1
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG connection/connection_complete_source source 
is ready to start
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG fserve/fserve_add_client_callback Adding 
client to file serving engine
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node clients (1)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
connections (9)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node sources (1)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new source stat 
/matamerapi
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node listenurl 
(http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
listener_peak (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node public (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_name (no name)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_description (Unspecified description)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node genre 
(various)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_type (application/ogg)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
max_listeners (10)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_init Source creation complete
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_run_script Starting command 
/home/icecast/bin/stream-start
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] EROR source/source_run_script Unable to run 
command /home/icecast/bin/stream-start (No such file or directory)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] INFO source/get_next_buffer End of Stream /matamerapi
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] INFO source/source_main listener count on 
/matamerapi now 0
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] INFO source/source_shutdown Source "/matamerapi" 
exiting
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_run_script Starting command 
/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] EROR source/source_run_script Unable to run 
command /home/icecast/bin/stream-stop (No such file or directory)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_clear_source clearing source 
"/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] INFO source/source_clear_source Closing dumpfile 
for /matamerapi
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG format-ogg/format_ogg_free_headers releasing 
header pages
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG format-ogg/free_ogg_codecs freeing codecs
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG source/source_free_source freeing source 
"/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node source_ip 
(192.168.10.232)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
user_agent (libshout/2.2.2)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
source_client_connections (2)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node listeners (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node listenurl 
(http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
source_total_connections (2)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
slow_listeners (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node listeners (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listener_peak (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
stream_start (Tue, 02 Nov 2010 07:58:30 +0700)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
total_bytes_read (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
total_bytes_sent (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node listeners (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/process_source_event delete source node 
/matamerapi
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node clients (0)
[2010-11-02 07:58:30] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node sources (0)

----STOP------

Sincerely
-bino-


From bino at indoakses-online.com  Tue Nov  2 01:36:35 2010
From: bino at indoakses-online.com (Bino Oetomo)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:36:35 +0700
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=VSRz1WHD4A_H4Gaw7ac_q8joPg3tV+OPA71Pt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<AANLkTi=VSRz1WHD4A_H4Gaw7ac_q8joPg3tV+OPA71Pt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CCF6B23.1040804@indoakses-online.com>

Dear Leo

Leo Currie wrote:
> Not sure if you perhaps intended to obfuscate these for the purposes
> of email, but in ezstream you are using a different source password to
> oggfwd.
>
> - Leo
>   

I do a recheck.

The streaming command is :
wget -nv http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg  | 
ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | ezstream -c ./matamerapi.xml

The streaming console said :
---START---
File `neric' does not exist or has an unknown data format.
ezstream: Connected to http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi
ezstream: Streaming from standard input
---STOP----

My "merapi.xml" is :
---START---
<ezstream>
    <url>http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi</url>
    <sourcepassword>bino262</sourcepassword>
    <format>THEORA</format>
    <filename>stdin</filename>
    <stream_once>1</stream_once>
    <svrinfoname>My Stream</svrinfoname>
    <svrinfourl>http://www.oddsock.org</svrinfourl>
    <svrinfogenre>Other</svrinfogenre>
    <svrinfodescription>Mata Merapi</svrinfodescription>
    <svrinfopublic>0</svrinfopublic>
</ezstream>
---STOP-----

The "mount" part of my Icecast2.xml is :
---START---
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/matamerapi</mount-name>
        <password>bino262</password>
        <max-listeners>10</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-matamerapi</dump-file>
        <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <fallback-mount>/example2.ogg</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
        <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
        <!--intro>/example_intro.ogg</intro-->
        <hidden>0</hidden>
        <no-yp>0</no-yp>
        <on-connect>/home/icecast/bin/stream-start</on-connect>
        <on-disconnect>/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop</on-disconnect>
    </mount>
---STOP----

Still not work ...
The error log said
---START----
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source 
logging in at mountpoint "/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG connection/connection_complete_source 
sources count is 0
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_apply_mount Applying mount 
information for "/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings fallback 
/example2.ogg
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings Dumping stream 
to /tmp/dump-matamerapi
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings connect script 
"/home/icecast/bin/stream-start"
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings disconnect 
script "/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop"
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings public set to 0
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings max listeners 
to 10
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings queue size to 
524288
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings burst size to 
65536
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings source timeout 
to 10
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG source/source_update_settings 
fallback_when_full to 1
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG connection/connection_complete_source source 
is ready to start
[2010-11-02  08:17:58] DBUG fserve/fserve_add_client_callback Adding 
client to file serving engine
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node clients (1)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
connections (15)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node sources (1)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new source stat 
/matamerapi
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
listenurl (http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
listener_peak (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node public (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_name (My Stream)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_description (Mata Merapi)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_url (http://www.oddsock.org)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node genre 
(Other)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
server_type (application/ogg)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
max_listeners (10)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG source/source_init Source creation complete
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG source/source_run_script Starting command 
/home/icecast/bin/stream-start
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] EROR source/source_run_script Unable to run 
command /home/icecast/bin/stream-start (No such file or directory)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] INFO source/get_next_buffer End of Stream /matamerapi
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] INFO source/source_main listener count on 
/matamerapi now 0
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] INFO source/source_shutdown Source "/matamerapi" 
exiting
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG source/source_run_script Starting command 
/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] EROR source/source_run_script Unable to run 
command /home/icecast/bin/stream-stop (No such file or directory)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG source/source_clear_source clearing source 
"/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] INFO source/source_clear_source Closing dumpfile 
for /matamerapi
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG format-ogg/format_ogg_free_headers releasing 
header pages
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG format-ogg/free_ogg_codecs freeing codecs
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG source/source_free_source freeing source 
"/matamerapi"
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
source_ip (192.168.10.232)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
user_agent (libshout/2.2.2)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
source_client_connections (4)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
listeners (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listenurl (http://192.168.10.232:8000/matamerapi)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
source_total_connections (4)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
slow_listeners (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listeners (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listener_peak (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
stream_start (Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:17:59 +0700)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
total_bytes_read (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event new node 
total_bytes_sent (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listeners (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/process_source_event delete source 
node /matamerapi
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node clients (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node sources (0)
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02  08:17:59] WARN source/source_fallback_file unable to open 
file "/usr/share/icecast2/web/example2.ogg"
[2010-11-02  08:18:54] DBUG slave/_slave_thread checking master stream list
---STOP-----


Sincerely
-bino-



From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Tue Nov  2 06:29:32 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:29:32 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
Message-ID: <20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 08:08:52AM +0700, Bino Oetomo wrote:
> Dear Thomas
> 
> Thomas B. Ruecker wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 05:17:12PM +0700, Bino Oetomo wrote:
> >   
> >> Now .. I want to do it the otherway with Icecast
> >>
> >> I try with wget -nv -O - http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg 
> >> | ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd  192.168.10.232  
> >> 8000 hackme /matamerapi
> >>     
> >
> > instead of oggfwd, redirect the output to a file and see if that 
> > can be opened. 
> >
> >   
> What file type that proper for this test ?
if you have your options right it should produce an ogg encapsulated 
stream of theora and vorbis. Try replacing "| oggfwd?" with ">/tmp/test.ogg"
and then try to open that file using some player like vlc or mplayer.

> >> the access log said that there is "source" access ...
> >>     
> > turn up your logging to debug and look what happens _after_ you connect.
> > Maybe the source is getting dropped briefly after connecting for some
> > reason?
> >
> >   
> Ok .. I did it.
> 
> I re-try the encoding with
> 
> bino at bino:~$ wget -nv http://root:root at 192.168.10.234/mjpg/video.mjpg | 
> ffmpeg2theora -a 0 -f mjpeg -o /dev/stdout | oggfwd 192.168.10.232 8000 
> bino262 /matamerapi
> 
> the console output is :
> 
> File `neric' does not exist or has an unknown data format.
> oggfwd: Connected to server
> oggfwd: Quitting ...
> oggfwd: Total bytes read: 0

let's stop RIGHT HERE!
Isn't it obvious?
Something is wrong with your pipeline here. There is NOTHING coming through.
Which brings us back to the previous point.
First make sure ffmpeg2theora has all the right options set, then verify
that it produces an valid ogg file/stream and only then try to oggfwd it.

Cheers

Thomas


From bino at indoakses-online.com  Tue Nov  2 08:32:16 2010
From: bino at indoakses-online.com (Bino Oetomo)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:32:16 +0700
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
Message-ID: <4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>

Dear Thomas
I Really Appreciate your enlightment
Thomas B. Ruecker wrote:
> let's stop RIGHT HERE!
> Isn't it obvious?
> Something is wrong with your pipeline here. There is NOTHING coming through.
> Which brings us back to the previous point.
> First make sure ffmpeg2theora has all the right options set, then verify
> that it produces an valid ogg file/stream and only then try to oggfwd it.
>
>   
You are right !!
I try to open the ogg file ... and nothing comes up.

Now (I ithink) I fix the problem using recipe from
http://johnbeales.com/20080820/using-vlc-to-transcode-an-axis-cameras-video-stream-and-stream-it-out-again/#vlc-transcode-solution

First I run one vlc just to get the feed to a file called mypipe.mjpg
next, I run another vlc to read that local mjpg file , and transcode and 
send it to IceCast server.

First try stoped after some minutes ...
Looks like the 2nd vlc reach end of file ...
Then I try to click the "loop" button and .... Voila .... it works !!

Thankyou for your enlightment.

Sincerely
-bino-


From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Tue Nov  2 09:03:30 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:03:30 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Camera MJPEG to Icecast
In-Reply-To: <4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
Message-ID: <20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 03:32:16PM +0700, Bino Oetomo wrote:
> Dear Thomas
> I Really Appreciate your enlightment
> Thomas B. Ruecker wrote:
> > let's stop RIGHT HERE!
> > Isn't it obvious?
> > Something is wrong with your pipeline here. There is NOTHING coming through.
> > Which brings us back to the previous point.
> > First make sure ffmpeg2theora has all the right options set, then verify
> > that it produces an valid ogg file/stream and only then try to oggfwd it.
> >
> >   
> You are right !!
> I try to open the ogg file ... and nothing comes up.
> 
> Now (I ithink) I fix the problem using recipe from
> http://johnbeales.com/20080820/using-vlc-to-transcode-an-axis-cameras-video-stream-and-stream-it-out-again/#vlc-transcode-solution
oh, dear!
Why don't you use directly the icecast output option of vlc?

It would most likely look like this:
vlc -vvv rtsp://CAMERA-IP-ADDRESS:554/mpeg4/media.amp --no-drop-late-frames --no-sout-audio --sout "#transcode{vcodec=theo,acodec=vorb,ab=1,channels=1}:duplicate{dst=std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=source:PASSWORDHERE at localhost:8000/stream.ogg}}

DISCLAIMER: I only tried this 'sout' line part briefly, YMMV. 

If your CPU maxes out you might want to add some 'scale=0.5' to the #transcode options. Experiment with the value varying it from 1 to 0.1 to find a suitable value.

Cheers

Thomas


From w2lie at w2lie.net  Tue Nov  2 19:35:46 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (W2LIE)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:35:46 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
Message-ID: <d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>

I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement every
30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.

Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for each
encoding location.

As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the announcement
as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and then
having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the first
Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
commercials.


If this is the easiest way to continue, what is the process for installing
a 2nd copy of Icecast on CentOS?  Or do I just use icecast -b -c config.1
and icecast -b -c config.2 for each copy I want to run?

Thanks for any help in getting this little project finalized.

73
Phil /  W2LIE.


From w2lie at w2lie.net  Tue Nov  2 19:55:00 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (Phil / w2lie)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:55:00 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <51B5DDCD-F0AD-4FA1-9F83-EB17792C85D9@gmail.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
	<51B5DDCD-F0AD-4FA1-9F83-EB17792C85D9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C5F09CE-D94A-4FF7-AC6A-805FE3955D32@w2lie.net>

That is my intention. If 30 min is too many, I would settle for 60min. 

On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Brandon Casci <brandon.casci at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just curious. Does that mean anyone listening will hear an interruption every 30 minutes?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:35 PM, W2LIE <w2lie at w2lie.net> wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement every
>> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.
>> 
>> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
>> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for each
>> encoding location.
>> 
>> As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
>> instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the announcement
>> as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and then
>> having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the first
>> Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
>> commercials.
>> 
>> 
>> If this is the easiest way to continue, what is the process for installing
>> a 2nd copy of Icecast on CentOS?  Or do I just use icecast -b -c config.1
>> and icecast -b -c config.2 for each copy I want to run?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help in getting this little project finalized.
>> 
>> 73
>> Phil /  W2LIE.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From w2lie at w2lie.net  Tue Nov  2 20:13:27 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (W2LIE)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:13:27 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <51B5DDCD-F0AD-4FA1-9F83-EB17792C85D9@gmail.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
	<51B5DDCD-F0AD-4FA1-9F83-EB17792C85D9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <947c1dc4ba20b2a1d995d759ffeb3878@w2lie.net>


That is my intention. If 30 min is too many, I would settle for
60min.

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:50:57 -0400, Brandon Casci 
wrote:
> Just
curious. Does that mean anyone listening will hear an interruption
> every
30 minutes?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:35 PM, W2LIE
wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio
announcement
>> every
>> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of
Icecast.
>> 
>> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are
from remote
>> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as
possible for each
>> encoding location.
>> 
>> As of now, the best way I
can think of to do this is by running 2
>> instances of Icecast. Allowing
the first instance to have the
>> announcement
>> as part of the "intro"
tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and then
>> having the 2nd
instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the first
>> Icecast. These
will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
>> commercials.
>>

>> 
>> If this is the easiest way to continue, what is the process for
>>
installing
>> a 2nd copy of Icecast on CentOS? Or do I just use icecast -b
-c config.1
>> and icecast -b -c config.2 for each copy I want to run?
>>

>> Thanks for any help in getting this little project finalized.
>> 
>>
73
>> Phil / W2LIE.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>
http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
--
Phil / w2lie
Monitor
Long Island, Inc.
d/b/a W2LIE.net
www.w2lie.net

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From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Tue Nov  2 20:25:16 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:25:16 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
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On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 02:35:46PM -0500, W2LIE wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement every
> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.

I seem to remember that the kh-branch has some experimental ad-injection.
http://www.xiphicecast.webspace.virginmedia.com/
It should do exactly what you want.

There was something on the developer mailing list about it.

73 es 42 de

Thomas, OH3-DM8TBR


From w2lie at w2lie.net  Tue Nov  2 20:44:07 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (W2LIE)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:44:07 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <CAB414DE-3764-4451-8FDB-74254F18CBD7@gmail.com>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
	<51B5DDCD-F0AD-4FA1-9F83-EB17792C85D9@gmail.com>
	<5C5F09CE-D94A-4FF7-AC6A-805FE3955D32@w2lie.net>
	<CAB414DE-3764-4451-8FDB-74254F18CBD7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4358cdea399947714db55fbd690b9846@w2lie.net>

Yes, it does sound a bit funky - but there is a reason to my madness :)

I run 10 streams right now on my Icecast host.  I have agreements setup to
allow another host to relay 4 of them.  I have found over the years that
other people embed my feeds, or relay them for their own benefit.  I
figured that forcing my ID on the stream every now and then will "enforce"
where the source of the feed is coming from.  So regardless if the feed is
embedded in someone's webpage, loaded into an iphone 3rd party app, or on
an agreement with another relay, my own "This is a _____ live radio feed"
announcement would allow me to claim back some of my feeds.

I'm not to familiar with LiquidSoap, but I don't know if it will allow me
to point an encoded feed at it, and then have LS go to the Icecast server?

Ex.
Encoded MP3 -> LiquidSoap -> Icecast Server -> Listener

What I was thinking was:
Encoded MP3 -> Iceast #1 -> Icecast #2 -> Listener

Again, the end result is this needs to be painless for those who have
remote feeds setup.  They are all using Windows and either Simplecast or
Edcast to encode the MP3 to my Icecast Server.

Additionally - I have complaints from Blackberry users who say they can't
listen to my streaming audio because Blackberries do not support MP3 in a
streaming environment: 
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/smartphone_users/deliverables/18349/711-01774-123_Supported_Media_Types_on_BlackBerry_Smartphones.pdf
So, either way, I need to run something like LiquidSoap to my feeds can be
transcoded into a Blackberry Friendly RTSP format.... but that is a topic
for another time...


The intention of bringing this to the floor was to figure out the best way
for me to identify all of my feeds with out having to reinvent the wheel. 
Or - maybe I have square wheels and they need reinventing :)

73
 

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:23:47 -0400, Brandon Casci <brandon.casci at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm not judging but that sounds funky :)
> 
> You might have better luck with moving listeners between mounts, or
using
> Liquidsoap to process the live inputs. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Phil / w2lie <w2lie at w2lie.net> wrote:
> 
>> That is my intention. If 30 min is too many, I would settle for 60min. 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Brandon Casci <brandon.casci at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just curious. Does that mean anyone listening will hear an
interruption
>>> every 30 minutes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:35 PM, W2LIE <w2lie at w2lie.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement
>>>> every
>>>> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
>>>> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for
>>>> each
>>>> encoding location.
>>>> 
>>>> As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
>>>> instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the
>>>> announcement
>>>> as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and
>>>> then
>>>> having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the
>>>> first
>>>> Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
>>>> commercials.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If this is the easiest way to continue, what is the process for
>>>> installing
>>>> a 2nd copy of Icecast on CentOS?  Or do I just use icecast -b -c
>>>> config.1
>>>> and icecast -b -c config.2 for each copy I want to run?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any help in getting this little project finalized.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> Phil /  W2LIE.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From karl at xiph.org  Tue Nov  2 21:15:47 2010
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:15:47 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
Message-ID: <4CD07F83.7080403@xiph.org>

On 02/11/10 19:35, W2LIE wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement every
> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.
>
> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for each
> encoding location.


> As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
> instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the announcement
> as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and then
> having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the first
> Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
> commercials.

You could do this although you don't need 2 icecasts, you can use 2 
mountpoints. mount1 would be the initial feed (relay/source), but with a 
max listener duration of say 1800 seconds and a intro file, the second 
mount (what listeners use) would be a relay of 127.0.0.1 mount1. The 
relay would be dropped and and restarted.

Another/simpler way would be to run a source client every half an hour 
that overrides the mount running the stream and play just the ID once, 
the override moves the listeners and then the listeners fall back to the 
stream when finished.  So mount1 would be the normal stream for 
listeners, mount2 would fed by a source client when you want the ID 
played, mount2 would fallback/override mount1

karl.



From w2lie at w2lie.net  Wed Nov  3 14:40:55 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (W2LIE)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 09:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <4CD07F83.7080403@xiph.org>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
	<4CD07F83.7080403@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <8c04eedda691748a342ddb1ba7597913@w2lie.net>

Karl & All,
Thanks for the replies..  It looks like there might be 1,000 ways to skin
this cat.  I was even looking at the LiquidSoap Harbor code as well- but
only if I can run LiquidSoap as a service under CentOS.

73
Phil

On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:15:47 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On 02/11/10 19:35, W2LIE wrote:
>> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement
>> every
>> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.
>>
>> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
>> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for
each
>> encoding location.
> 
> 
>> As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
>> instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the
>> announcement
>> as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and
then
>> having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the
first
>> Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
>> commercials.
> 
> You could do this although you don't need 2 icecasts, you can use 2 
> mountpoints. mount1 would be the initial feed (relay/source), but with a

> max listener duration of say 1800 seconds and a intro file, the second 
> mount (what listeners use) would be a relay of 127.0.0.1 mount1. The 
> relay would be dropped and and restarted.
> 
> Another/simpler way would be to run a source client every half an hour 
> that overrides the mount running the stream and play just the ID once, 
> the override moves the listeners and then the listeners fall back to the

> stream when finished.  So mount1 would be the normal stream for 
> listeners, mount2 would fed by a source client when you want the ID 
> played, mount2 would fallback/override mount1
> 
> karl.




From brandon at loudcity.net  Wed Nov  3 14:59:59 2010
From: brandon at loudcity.net (Brandon Casci)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Forcing an ID on all mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <8c04eedda691748a342ddb1ba7597913@w2lie.net>
References: <4CCE93A8.1080406@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101101102103.GC15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCF64A4.7090104@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102062932.GE15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<4CCFCC90.5080203@indoakses-online.com>
	<20101102090330.GF15133@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>
	<d19da0f6d15381638c9e967dab304366@w2lie.net>
	<4CD07F83.7080403@xiph.org>
	<8c04eedda691748a342ddb1ba7597913@w2lie.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=eEPW7ULm3keDX9=EYWdyqNaduVZptvEW_1GnF@mail.gmail.com>

Try Karl's way first, it's the easiest.

With Liquidsoap you can mix anything you want into an audio stream..that's
what I was thinking. Though it requires CPU power because your
re-transcoding the streams.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:40 AM, W2LIE <w2lie at w2lie.net> wrote:

> Karl & All,
> Thanks for the replies..  It looks like there might be 1,000 ways to skin
> this cat.  I was even looking at the LiquidSoap Harbor code as well- but
> only if I can run LiquidSoap as a service under CentOS.
>
> 73
> Phil
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:15:47 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> > On 02/11/10 19:35, W2LIE wrote:
> >> I'm looking for a way to tag my live feeds via an audio announcement
> >> every
> >> 30 minutes or so using the Linux install of Icecast.
> >>
> >> Some of the feeds I control locally, and other feeds are from remote
> >> locations - so implimenting this must be as painless as possible for
> each
> >> encoding location.
> >
> >
> >> As of now, the best way I can think of to do this is by running 2
> >> instances of Icecast.  Allowing the first instance to have the
> >> announcement
> >> as part of the "intro" tag, and kick each feed after 30 minutes, and
> then
> >> having the 2nd instance of Icecast relay all of the feeds from the
> first
> >> Icecast.  These will also be standard announcements, and not rotating
> >> commercials.
> >
> > You could do this although you don't need 2 icecasts, you can use 2
> > mountpoints. mount1 would be the initial feed (relay/source), but with a
>
> > max listener duration of say 1800 seconds and a intro file, the second
> > mount (what listeners use) would be a relay of 127.0.0.1 mount1. The
> > relay would be dropped and and restarted.
> >
> > Another/simpler way would be to run a source client every half an hour
> > that overrides the mount running the stream and play just the ID once,
> > the override moves the listeners and then the listeners fall back to the
>
> > stream when finished.  So mount1 would be the normal stream for
> > listeners, mount2 would fed by a source client when you want the ID
> > played, mount2 would fallback/override mount1
> >
> > karl.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>



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From un at dom.de  Mon Nov 22 22:02:55 2010
From: un at dom.de (uno)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:02:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] oddsock.org?
Message-ID: <20101122220255.GB5647@aporee.org>


anybody any idea what happened to http://www.oddsock.org/ ?
--u



From w2lie at w2lie.net  Mon Nov 22 22:19:52 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (Phil)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:19:52 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] oddsock.org?
In-Reply-To: <20101122220255.GB5647@aporee.org>
References: <20101122220255.GB5647@aporee.org>
Message-ID: <20101122161952.14156skfnawwibwo@www.w2lie.net>

Bummer..  I've been using Edcast / Oddcast for years.  It will be missed.
The stand-alone is great, but the WinAmp plug-in is awesome!

Quoting uno <un at dom.de>:

>
> anybody any idea what happened to http://www.oddsock.org/ ?
> --u
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>





From un at dom.de  Mon Nov 22 22:35:07 2010
From: un at dom.de (uno)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] oddsock.org?
In-Reply-To: <20101122161952.14156skfnawwibwo@www.w2lie.net>
References: <20101122220255.GB5647@aporee.org>
	<20101122161952.14156skfnawwibwo@www.w2lie.net>
Message-ID: <20101122223507.GC8895@aporee.org>

Phil:
> Bummer..  I've been using Edcast / Oddcast for years. 

same for me...

> the WinAmp plug-in is awesome!
that was my reason to check the page... it was still up last night.
any mirror out there where i can download it? thx, --u


From toots at rastageeks.org  Mon Nov 22 22:36:36 2010
From: toots at rastageeks.org (Romain Beauxis)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:36:36 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] oddsock.org?
In-Reply-To: <20101122161952.14156skfnawwibwo@www.w2lie.net>
References: <20101122220255.GB5647@aporee.org>
	<20101122161952.14156skfnawwibwo@www.w2lie.net>
Message-ID: <201011221636.36939.toots@rastageeks.org>

Le lundi 22 novembre 2010 16:19:52, Phil a ?crit :
> Bummer..  I've been using Edcast / Oddcast for years.  It will be missed.
> The stand-alone is great, but the WinAmp plug-in is awesome!

Could it be the AAC+ encoding part ?

Romain


From cmpalmer at ibiblio.org  Tue Nov 23 19:40:56 2010
From: cmpalmer at ibiblio.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Crist=F3bal_Palmer?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:40:56 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] analytics
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

We (at ibiblio.org) are evaluating several projects and products for
getting good analytics from icecast. Specifically, we have explored
cacti and awstats. I am writing because I would like users of this
list to send me their experiences with analytics and monitoring
packages and products. I would like details such as time for initial
deployment, time and steps to add an addiitonal stream, dollar cost
(if applicable), and customizations required. Screenshots would be
very nice, too.

Please do not assume we have any particular cost, OS, license, or
other requirements in composing your reply. I'm interested in any and
all ways that people are getting data out of icecast and crunching it
for later review/analysis.

I am happy to summarize responses that people are comfortable having
shared back to the list. My plan is to give a reasonable amount of
time for people to compose responses and then send one summary email.

Cheers,
-- 
Crist?bal Palmer
ibiblio.org
metalab.unc.edu


From no-reply at dropboxmail.com  Tue Nov 23 23:19:15 2010
From: no-reply at dropboxmail.com (Dropbox)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:19:15 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Nikola Kolev invited you to Dropbox
Message-ID: <20101123231915.3AF5A4098A6@mailman-2.dropboxmail.com>

Nikola Kolev wants you to use Dropbox to sync and share files online and across computers.

Get started here: http://www.dropbox.com/link/20.S7nWSKGeWh/NjQ3OTAwNjE5Nw?src=referrals_bulk

- The Dropbox Team

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From k.j.wierenga at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 08:23:02 2010
From: k.j.wierenga at gmail.com (Klaas Jan Wierenga)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:23:02 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] analytics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12A4CA6E-C4F2-4BE5-9702-AB3A35A18296@gmail.com>

Hi Christobal,

We have been using Webalizer Version 2.10 - Streaming extention. It's not ideal and old but it works.

Regards,
K-J

Op 23 nov 2010, om 20:40 heeft Crist?bal Palmer het volgende geschreven:

> Hello all,
> 
> We (at ibiblio.org) are evaluating several projects and products for
> getting good analytics from icecast. Specifically, we have explored
> cacti and awstats. I am writing because I would like users of this
> list to send me their experiences with analytics and monitoring
> packages and products. I would like details such as time for initial
> deployment, time and steps to add an addiitonal stream, dollar cost
> (if applicable), and customizations required. Screenshots would be
> very nice, too.
> 
> Please do not assume we have any particular cost, OS, license, or
> other requirements in composing your reply. I'm interested in any and
> all ways that people are getting data out of icecast and crunching it
> for later review/analysis.
> 
> I am happy to summarize responses that people are comfortable having
> shared back to the list. My plan is to give a reasonable amount of
> time for people to compose responses and then send one summary email.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Crist?bal Palmer
> ibiblio.org
> metalab.unc.edu
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Wed Nov 24 09:55:56 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:55:56 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] analytics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101124095556.GD19009@sinabox.bfst.de>

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 02:40:56PM -0500, Crist?bal Palmer wrote:
> We (at ibiblio.org) are evaluating several projects and products for
> getting good analytics from icecast. Specifically, we have explored
> cacti and awstats. I am writing because I would like users of this
My personal experience with cacti was a rather unpleasant one.
A remote code execution vulnerability in it took my server down.

The good thing though was that it made me find Munin.
I've written a set of munin plugins for processing icecast stats.
Let me know if you want more info / latest working copy of my sources.

http://www.ruecker-itk.de/foss/icecast/munin-icecast-0.1.tar.bz2
http://www.ruecker-itk.de/foss/icecast/munin.png
http://www.ruecker-itk.de/foss/icecast/munin-bw.png

There is another munin plugin also but it relies on access to the
admin/stats.xml file (admin credentials) which makes me uncomfortable.

Custom xslt files are easier and more flexible to secure 
and also need next to zero processing on the client side.
If no write access to the webroot is given they can be run on the
client side easily too. (then the same downsides with admin credentials
apply though)

Cheers

Thomas


From greg at indexcom.com  Wed Nov 24 20:48:56 2010
From: greg at indexcom.com (Greg Ogonowski)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:48:56 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] analytics
In-Reply-To: <12A4CA6E-C4F2-4BE5-9702-AB3A35A18296@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikKZ47UQaBLz-CgPPuu3TQ4Y26i=5KN8C3_eqbR@mail.gmail.com>
	<12A4CA6E-C4F2-4BE5-9702-AB3A35A18296@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE937645-AEA8-46C7-9FF4-04E0A50B5317@indexcom.com>

You might have a look at Sawmill.
-Greg.


Sent from Apple iPhone 4

On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:23, Klaas Jan Wierenga <k.j.wierenga at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Christobal,
> 
> We have been using Webalizer Version 2.10 - Streaming extention. It's not ideal and old but it works.
> 
> Regards,
> K-J
> 
> Op 23 nov 2010, om 20:40 heeft Crist?bal Palmer het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> We (at ibiblio.org) are evaluating several projects and products for
>> getting good analytics from icecast. Specifically, we have explored
>> cacti and awstats. I am writing because I would like users of this
>> list to send me their experiences with analytics and monitoring
>> packages and products. I would like details such as time for initial
>> deployment, time and steps to add an addiitonal stream, dollar cost
>> (if applicable), and customizations required. Screenshots would be
>> very nice, too.
>> 
>> Please do not assume we have any particular cost, OS, license, or
>> other requirements in composing your reply. I'm interested in any and
>> all ways that people are getting data out of icecast and crunching it
>> for later review/analysis.
>> 
>> I am happy to summarize responses that people are comfortable having
>> shared back to the list. My plan is to give a reasonable amount of
>> time for people to compose responses and then send one summary email.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> -- 
>> Crist?bal Palmer
>> ibiblio.org
>> metalab.unc.edu
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>