From josu.lazkano at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 16:40:55 2010
From: josu.lazkano at gmail.com (Josu Lazkano)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:40:55 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
Message-ID: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everybody, I am new on this mail-list. I want to try to config a
HD video stream server on my LAN. I use Debian Squeeze OS and the idea
is to use H.264 video codec.

I just install Icecast2 on a Debian Lenny server and it works great
with a OGG audio playlist. I have lost of questions about it:

1. Is possible to configure Icecast2 to stream video as LiveTV?

2. Which will be the best client (GNU/Linux) to decode and play the
stream? I have VDPAU capable video card.

I am going to continue reading the forum and howtos on the net.

Thanks for all and best regards.

-- 
Josu Lazkano


From jnalley at jnalley.com  Thu Aug 12 16:48:22 2010
From: jnalley at jnalley.com (Jonathan Nalley)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=RyFbKQsyV94aO4LLXL4tdZBZu+P9ZwHN83FRG@mail.gmail.com>

i'm relatively new to icecast as well but so far as I understand, i
don't think icecast will work with H.264.  Most of the documentation
and information i've seen suggests that the best (and maybe only?)
video codec that icecast will stream and manage is (the more
patent-free) Theora codec.

Someone please feel free to correct me if i've misspoken.


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everybody, I am new on this mail-list. I want to try to config a
> HD video stream server on my LAN. I use Debian Squeeze OS and the idea
> is to use H.264 video codec.
>
> I just install Icecast2 on a Debian Lenny server and it works great
> with a OGG audio playlist. I have lost of questions about it:
>
> 1. Is possible to configure Icecast2 to stream video as LiveTV?
>
> 2. Which will be the best client (GNU/Linux) to decode and play the
> stream? I have VDPAU capable video card.
>
> I am going to continue reading the forum and howtos on the net.
>
> Thanks for all and best regards.
>
> --
> Josu Lazkano
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>


From ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 17:02:25 2010
From: ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com (E Ferguson Earnshaw)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:02:25 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=RyFbKQsyV94aO4LLXL4tdZBZu+P9ZwHN83FRG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=RyFbKQsyV94aO4LLXL4tdZBZu+P9ZwHN83FRG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=W1wOg_58R-O7gfp2tvb6v+E=pNSK60yV=2ngd@mail.gmail.com>

I agree I have not seen any H264 streaming info for icecast2.

If you are however interested in using ogg/vorbis (Theora) look up Theora
Streaming Studio in the Theora Cookbook and it will give you some info.
Additionally if you wish to script this task you can look up the info on the
three commands TSS wraps, specifically dvgrab/ffmpeg2theora/oggfwd. if your
source file is in a h264 medium you should be able to transcode it to ogg in
this fashion.

If H264 however does exist please correct me as I would like to see any work
done with it for future reference.


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Nalley <jnalley at jnalley.com>wrote:

> i'm relatively new to icecast as well but so far as I understand, i
> don't think icecast will work with H.264.  Most of the documentation
> and information i've seen suggests that the best (and maybe only?)
> video codec that icecast will stream and manage is (the more
> patent-free) Theora codec.
>
> Someone please feel free to correct me if i've misspoken.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello everybody, I am new on this mail-list. I want to try to config a
> > HD video stream server on my LAN. I use Debian Squeeze OS and the idea
> > is to use H.264 video codec.
> >
> > I just install Icecast2 on a Debian Lenny server and it works great
> > with a OGG audio playlist. I have lost of questions about it:
> >
> > 1. Is possible to configure Icecast2 to stream video as LiveTV?
> >
> > 2. Which will be the best client (GNU/Linux) to decode and play the
> > stream? I have VDPAU capable video card.
> >
> > I am going to continue reading the forum and howtos on the net.
> >
> > Thanks for all and best regards.
> >
> > --
> > Josu Lazkano
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
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From josu.lazkano at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 17:07:32 2010
From: josu.lazkano at gmail.com (Josu Lazkano)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:07:32 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=W1wOg_58R-O7gfp2tvb6v+E=pNSK60yV=2ngd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=RyFbKQsyV94aO4LLXL4tdZBZu+P9ZwHN83FRG@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=W1wOg_58R-O7gfp2tvb6v+E=pNSK60yV=2ngd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik2ZVZ77=r1NZ_UzDFojPdU01W_=-rXiGs6D+Yf@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks both of you for yours replys.

I change my video source to theora with this comand: ffmpeg -i in.wmv
-vcodec libtheora -sameq -acodec libvorbis -ac 2 -sameq out.ogg

Now I have a theora video. How can I stream this video with Icecast2?
Is there any guide?

Thanks for all and best regards.

2010/8/12 E Ferguson Earnshaw <ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com>:
> I agree I have not seen any H264 streaming info for icecast2.
> If you are however interested in using ogg/vorbis (Theora) look up Theora
> Streaming Studio in the Theora Cookbook and it will give you some info.
> Additionally if you wish to script this task you can look up the info on the
> three commands TSS wraps, specifically dvgrab/ffmpeg2theora/oggfwd. if your
> source file is in a h264 medium you should be able to transcode it to ogg in
> this fashion.
> If H264 however does exist please correct me as I would like to see any work
> done with it for future reference.
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Nalley <jnalley at jnalley.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> i'm relatively new to icecast as well but so far as I understand, i
>> don't think icecast will work with H.264. ?Most of the documentation
>> and information i've seen suggests that the best (and maybe only?)
>> video codec that icecast will stream and manage is (the more
>> patent-free) Theora codec.
>>
>> Someone please feel free to correct me if i've misspoken.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello everybody, I am new on this mail-list. I want to try to config a
>> > HD video stream server on my LAN. I use Debian Squeeze OS and the idea
>> > is to use H.264 video codec.
>> >
>> > I just install Icecast2 on a Debian Lenny server and it works great
>> > with a OGG audio playlist. I have lost of questions about it:
>> >
>> > 1. Is possible to configure Icecast2 to stream video as LiveTV?
>> >
>> > 2. Which will be the best client (GNU/Linux) to decode and play the
>> > stream? I have VDPAU capable video card.
>> >
>> > I am going to continue reading the forum and howtos on the net.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all and best regards.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Josu Lazkano
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Icecast mailing list
>> > Icecast at xiph.org
>> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>



-- 
Josu Lazkano


From ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com  Thu Aug 12 17:11:39 2010
From: ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com (E Ferguson Earnshaw)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:11:39 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik2ZVZ77=r1NZ_UzDFojPdU01W_=-rXiGs6D+Yf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=RyFbKQsyV94aO4LLXL4tdZBZu+P9ZwHN83FRG@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=W1wOg_58R-O7gfp2tvb6v+E=pNSK60yV=2ngd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik2ZVZ77=r1NZ_UzDFojPdU01W_=-rXiGs6D+Yf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNdtOCgF9arLQc2aqvKD3MhhV5SUYBGed5TEsP@mail.gmail.com>

You can find a guide by entering "Theora Cookbook TSS" in to google. It
should be the first return. It is in the section marked live streaming.
Additionally you can use VLC media player to stream to icecast although I am
not aware of a guide for this.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks both of you for yours replys.
>
> I change my video source to theora with this comand: ffmpeg -i in.wmv
> -vcodec libtheora -sameq -acodec libvorbis -ac 2 -sameq out.ogg
>
> Now I have a theora video. How can I stream this video with Icecast2?
> Is there any guide?
>
> Thanks for all and best regards.
>
> 2010/8/12 E Ferguson Earnshaw <ferguson.earnshaw at gmail.com>:
> > I agree I have not seen any H264 streaming info for icecast2.
> > If you are however interested in using ogg/vorbis (Theora) look up Theora
> > Streaming Studio in the Theora Cookbook and it will give you some info.
> > Additionally if you wish to script this task you can look up the info on
> the
> > three commands TSS wraps, specifically dvgrab/ffmpeg2theora/oggfwd. if
> your
> > source file is in a h264 medium you should be able to transcode it to ogg
> in
> > this fashion.
> > If H264 however does exist please correct me as I would like to see any
> work
> > done with it for future reference.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Nalley <jnalley at jnalley.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> i'm relatively new to icecast as well but so far as I understand, i
> >> don't think icecast will work with H.264.  Most of the documentation
> >> and information i've seen suggests that the best (and maybe only?)
> >> video codec that icecast will stream and manage is (the more
> >> patent-free) Theora codec.
> >>
> >> Someone please feel free to correct me if i've misspoken.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Josu Lazkano <josu.lazkano at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello everybody, I am new on this mail-list. I want to try to config a
> >> > HD video stream server on my LAN. I use Debian Squeeze OS and the idea
> >> > is to use H.264 video codec.
> >> >
> >> > I just install Icecast2 on a Debian Lenny server and it works great
> >> > with a OGG audio playlist. I have lost of questions about it:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Is possible to configure Icecast2 to stream video as LiveTV?
> >> >
> >> > 2. Which will be the best client (GNU/Linux) to decode and play the
> >> > stream? I have VDPAU capable video card.
> >> >
> >> > I am going to continue reading the forum and howtos on the net.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for all and best regards.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Josu Lazkano
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Icecast mailing list
> >> > Icecast at xiph.org
> >> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Josu Lazkano
>
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From toots at rastageeks.org  Thu Aug 12 18:00:53 2010
From: toots at rastageeks.org (Romain Beauxis)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:00:53 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Stream HD video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinNdtOCgF9arLQc2aqvKD3MhhV5SUYBGed5TEsP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiniUwza_zbkSTGmqz4iZi=bECrcnUefx=PdPsOD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik2ZVZ77=r1NZ_UzDFojPdU01W_=-rXiGs6D+Yf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinNdtOCgF9arLQc2aqvKD3MhhV5SUYBGed5TEsP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201008121300.53783.toots@rastageeks.org>

	Hi,

Le jeudi 12 ao?t 2010 12:11:39, E Ferguson Earnshaw a ?crit :
> You can find a guide by entering "Theora Cookbook TSS" in to google. It
> should be the first return. It is in the section marked live streaming.
> Additionally you can use VLC media player to stream to icecast although I
> am not aware of a guide for this.

If you are streaming encoded files, you may as well use ezstream, which is the 
simpliest tool to do that and does not need decoding/encoding..

Romain


From bobdavcav at comcast.net  Sun Aug 15 03:33:02 2010
From: bobdavcav at comcast.net (bob cavanaugh)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:33:02 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] slightly offtopic, uninstalling edcast
Message-ID: <000601cb3c2a$9866ad70$c9340850$@net>

Hi all, I have edcast on my computer, but I didn't check the box to install
the mp3 encoder, and it is not installing correctly after it has been
deleted from the location it is installed in. It doesn't show up in the
control panel list, so can't do anything about it there. How do I completely
remove edcast from my machine and start over? 

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From chiapas at aktivix.org  Sun Aug 15 08:01:54 2010
From: chiapas at aktivix.org (chiapas at aktivix.org)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:01:54 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] slightly offtopic, uninstalling edcast
In-Reply-To: <000601cb3c2a$9866ad70$c9340850$@net>
References: <000601cb3c2a$9866ad70$c9340850$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZHmRJ0m3fHBz_oRM+ALj_L-Xj8Fh+vECYYk75@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

On 15 August 2010 04:33, bob cavanaugh <bobdavcav at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi all, I have edcast on my computer, but I didn?t check the box to install
> the mp3 encoder,

You don't need to check the box to install the MP3 encoder.

Just download a LAME bundle from here:

http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php

And place lame_enc.dll in the same folder as Edcast.

Done.

> and it is not installing correctly after it has been
> deleted from the location it is installed in.

"...not installing correctly..."?

> It doesn?t show up in the
> control panel list, so can?t do anything about it there. How do I completely
> remove edcast from my machine and start over?

Don't think Edcast writes to Registry so you should be fine just
deleting the Edcast folder and starting again, if you feel you must.

If you want to make sure then you could try using an uninstall utility
such as Revo Uninstaller but because Edcast is not in Control Panel
then I don't think it has made any changes to the Registry.

Chip


From mcc at fid4.com  Sun Aug 15 21:56:54 2010
From: mcc at fid4.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:56:54 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast2 / edcast Initial Setup Question
Message-ID: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>


Hi,

I have setup Icecast2 and edcast (standalone) on an XPSP3 machine.  The 
basic setup works.  I can speak into a microphone and hear my voice from 
another PC on a LAN.

Now I want to "stream a file" such as an mp3 podcast I made or just a 
song (mp3, acc etc.) or play a CD and don't know what to even search for 
in the mail archives, forum or Google to get help.

I can't seen to get edcast standalone to let me do anything except live 
streaming, via rear mic (or line-in or front mic).  From some research 
(links below), live streaming can be turned off (a big red X), but I 
can't seem to turn it off.  I've already seen import source being a 
CD-Drive etc. vs line-in/microphone.

Can anyone clue me into what to look at next?  Is edcast even the right 
tool for this?


Here are the links I've used to get as far as I am now, along with a PDF 
doc I found (HOWTO_Dedicated_Icecast_Server.pdf)

http://wiki.commedia.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Mp3_streaming_-_how_to_guide

http://www.fastserv.com/kb/article/edcast_standalone_-_stream_live_audio_to_icecast_or_shoutcast/

Thanks,
MikeC



From timothyclark113 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 15 22:49:25 2010
From: timothyclark113 at gmail.com (Timothy Clark)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:49:25 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Tagging
Message-ID: <AANLkTikya9mWhC+DDXUm8v9=6AcyzR8zXeW5cOcJhJk0@mail.gmail.com>

My radio station is on the stream directory but I was wondering if
there is a way to tag in the icecast config file as well as in the
incoader?
 Thanks.


From bobdavcav at comcast.net  Sun Aug 15 23:14:15 2010
From: bobdavcav at comcast.net (bob cavanaugh)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:14:15 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] still having problems with edcast
Message-ID: <000301cb3ccf$9ab21510$d0163f30$@net>

Ok all, I have deleted the edcast folder on my machine and reinstalled
edcast. However, I can't get the mp3 encoder to install. Tim said that it
should ask if you want the encoder, and I thought I selected it under the
select components to install, but it isn't installing. Two additional things
are happening, 

1.       When I open edcast, I don't see anything in the dropdown lists.
There were items in here when I installed it originally, but I've
reinstalled it a few times and none of the reinstalls show anything in the
lists. 

2.       2. When closing Edcast, an error message comes up and I can't get
edcast to close until the computer is shut down. Any advice anyone? 

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From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Mon Aug 16 06:54:58 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:54:58 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast2 / edcast Initial Setup Question
In-Reply-To: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
References: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
Message-ID: <20100816065458.GA5814@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 05:56:54PM -0400, Michael C. Cambria wrote:
> I can't seen to get edcast standalone to let me do anything except live 
> streaming, via rear mic (or line-in or front mic).  From some research 
> (links below), live streaming can be turned off (a big red X), but I 
> can't seem to turn it off.  I've already seen import source being a 
> CD-Drive etc. vs line-in/microphone.
> 
> Can anyone clue me into what to look at next?  Is edcast even the right 
> tool for this?
Yes, all you seem to have is a mixer setting problem.
Check if your system audio mixer allows you to set 'wave mix' or 'loop'
or something along those lines as an input. This is an meta-input which
combines all other inputs into one.

Good luck

Thomas


From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Mon Aug 16 06:57:39 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:57:39 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Tagging
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikya9mWhC+DDXUm8v9=6AcyzR8zXeW5cOcJhJk0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikya9mWhC+DDXUm8v9=6AcyzR8zXeW5cOcJhJk0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100816065739.GB5814@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 05:49:25PM -0500, Timothy Clark wrote:
> My radio station is on the stream directory but I was wondering if
> there is a way to tag in the icecast config file 
yes, you can override metadata in the icecast config.
Please ReadTheFineManual on this topic:
http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.3.2/icecast2_config_file.html#mount

> as well as in the incoader?
I presume you mean encoder?


Cheers

Thomas


From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Mon Aug 16 07:02:01 2010
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:02:01 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] still having problems with edcast
In-Reply-To: <000301cb3ccf$9ab21510$d0163f30$@net>
References: <000301cb3ccf$9ab21510$d0163f30$@net>
Message-ID: <20100816070201.GC5814@dk0td.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 04:14:15PM -0700, bob cavanaugh wrote:
> Ok all, I have deleted the edcast folder on my machine and reinstalled
> edcast. However, I can't get the mp3 encoder to install. Tim said that it

Although many of us used or are using edcast it might be better if you
go right to the source and search the forum for oddsock's tools:
http://www.oddsock.org/openbb/board.php?FID=2

If you don't find a solution there you can always post a question there.
Chances that you will receive an answer seem to be quite good.

Cheers

Thomas


From geoff at QuiteLikely.com  Mon Aug 16 09:16:21 2010
From: geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:16:21 +0300 (IDT)
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast2 / edcast Initial Setup Question
In-Reply-To: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
References: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1008161202560.3480@data.home>

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Michael C. Cambria wrote:

> I can't seen to get edcast standalone to let me do anything except live
> streaming, via rear mic (or line-in or front mic).  From some research
> (links below), live streaming can be turned off (a big red X), but I
> can't seem to turn it off.  I've already seen import source being a
> CD-Drive etc. vs line-in/microphone.

Edcast standalone only does live streaming, and IMHO the presence of the 
live streaming checkbox in the standalone UI is a bug.  Only the plugin 
versions have the option to turn it off.  This is because they can also 
accept input from the associated player, whereas the standalone version 
obviously has no player and hence no other input source.

As has been said here already, you should be able to change your soundcard 
input to accept outpu from other players or from the CD drive.

> Can anyone clue me into what to look at next?  Is edcast even the right
> tool for this?

Tool for what, ultimately?  If you just want to play automation from 
Winamp or Foobar, using the plugin may well be a lot simpler.  But it 
really depends what your ultimate goal is.

Geoff.



From mcc at fid4.com  Mon Aug 16 14:29:02 2010
From: mcc at fid4.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast2 / edcast Initial Setup Question
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1008161202560.3480@data.home>
References: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
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On 8/16/2010 5:16 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Michael C. Cambria wrote:
>
>> I can't seen to get edcast standalone to let me do anything except live
>> streaming, via rear mic (or line-in or front mic).  From some research
>> (links below), live streaming can be turned off (a big red X), but I
>> can't seem to turn it off.  I've already seen import source being a
>> CD-Drive etc. vs line-in/microphone.
>
> Edcast standalone only does live streaming, and IMHO the presence of 
> the live streaming checkbox in the standalone UI is a bug.  Only the 
> plugin versions have the option to turn it off.  This is because they 
> can also accept input from the associated player, whereas the 
> standalone version obviously has no player and hence no other input 
> source.
>

If that checkbox wasn't there, it would have saved me a lot of time.  I 
was trying to duplicate what I found in the 'howto's' just to ensure I 
was 'getting it'.  As suggested off list, I installed winamp and then 
eccast+winamp plug in and can do exactly what I was looking to do.


> As has been said here already, you should be able to change your 
> soundcard input to accept outpu from other players or from the CD drive.

I'll check my soundcard (built into the intel based motherboard) and see 
if I can get any other options to show up in edcast.

>> Can anyone clue me into what to look at next?  Is edcast even the right
>> tool for this?
>
> Tool for what, ultimately?  If you just want to play automation from 
> Winamp or Foobar, using the plugin may well be a lot simpler.  But it 
> really depends what your ultimate goal is.

It turns out that edcast standalone wasn't what I was looking for to 
play e.g. an mp3, or at least the simple way to do it.

Right now, my goal with icecast is to learn how to set it up and use 
it... learn what I can, pickup the terminology so I know what to ask in 
the future.  I'm the sw geek (will be moving to my FreeBSD systems 
eventually) but have a few DJ friends who gave up the practice and each 
decided to, well, give their ex a free house.  I'm going to help get 
them back 'on the air' so to speak using Icecast.

Something like piping the live output of e.g. mixx (www.mixx.org) into 
edcast is probably the end game... on on one machine ideally.

btw, ultimate goal is to rule the world lol.

Thanks,
MikeC



From bobdavcav at comcast.net  Mon Aug 16 19:00:20 2010
From: bobdavcav at comcast.net (bob cavanaugh)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:00:20 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] tools for broadcasting
Message-ID: <000601cb3d75$5010b010$f0321030$@net>

Hi all, I'm sending this to both lists because I want to know what both
sides of the conversation think about this. For those of you on the icecast
list, can I have a recommendation on the right tool to broadcast with? If
you like, I'll send you my prerecorded shows, just tell me what the best way
to send those is. For the audacity list now, would it be possible to develop
a broadcasting tool for Audasity? I can see how it would mostly work, but
there is one problem. How I see it working is that I start recording the
broadcast, so I start talking, import the first set of songs, and then press
play. Then, I would move the cursor to the end of the project and start
recording my next talk segment. The only problem I see with this is that in
Audasity, you can't play and record at the same time. Well, you can, but the
broadcast would be full of breaks when I switch inputs to record the songs
from the player. To the icecast list, what do you recommend as a tool for
broadcasting? The other problem with Edcast is that you can't change the
playlist unless you are on the mic unless you happen to have vision, which I
do not, so my screen reader is going to come over the air, which I don't
want. 

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From timothyclark113 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 19:27:10 2010
From: timothyclark113 at gmail.com (Timothy Clark)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] tools for broadcasting
In-Reply-To: <000601cb3d75$5010b010$f0321030$@net>
References: <000601cb3d75$5010b010$f0321030$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzXC4gEeRriG-r-vt+vyXTOku5ABU6WEbGYqBL@mail.gmail.com>

There are several toles you could use.
 Edcast with vertual audio cable so as you could rout your screen
reader off of the stream.
 You could use winamp and that would work for broadcasting and it
would aliminate the screen reader on the stream.
 Also, with winamp you could record your voice-track with audacity and
then put your vt in the q of winamp. Making it so as it sounds
prefeshinal.

 Also, you could use station playlist or sam broadcaster however, those caust.
 Hope this helps.
 Timothy

On 8/16/10, bob cavanaugh <bobdavcav at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi all, I'm sending this to both lists because I want to know what both
> sides of the conversation think about this. For those of you on the icecast
> list, can I have a recommendation on the right tool to broadcast with? If
> you like, I'll send you my prerecorded shows, just tell me what the best way
> to send those is. For the audacity list now, would it be possible to develop
> a broadcasting tool for Audasity? I can see how it would mostly work, but
> there is one problem. How I see it working is that I start recording the
> broadcast, so I start talking, import the first set of songs, and then press
> play. Then, I would move the cursor to the end of the project and start
> recording my next talk segment. The only problem I see with this is that in
> Audasity, you can't play and record at the same time. Well, you can, but the
> broadcast would be full of breaks when I switch inputs to record the songs
> from the player. To the icecast list, what do you recommend as a tool for
> broadcasting? The other problem with Edcast is that you can't change the
> playlist unless you are on the mic unless you happen to have vision, which I
> do not, so my screen reader is going to come over the air, which I don't
> want.
>
>


-- 
Timothy Clark, WTCN Owner and Maniger
 http://wtcnradio.podzone.net


From w2lie at w2lie.net  Mon Aug 16 19:20:32 2010
From: w2lie at w2lie.net (Phil / w2lie)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] tools for broadcasting
In-Reply-To: <000601cb3d75$5010b010$f0321030$@net>
References: <000601cb3d75$5010b010$f0321030$@net>
Message-ID: <61B8B839-9002-4CF7-8C45-B961CACAB68E@w2lie.net>

I am actually working on a prerecorded show set to debut 9/1/10

My plan was to create and edit the show with Audacity. The final mix would be encoded as an mp3. 

I was then going to use the edcast winamp plug-in to stream the mp3 show to my icecast server so others can listen. 

I was also planning a 30min filler mp3 so the feed was active and people can connect while the show is 'cued' up for broadcast.   This would be accomplished by setting an m3u playlist in winamp that first plays the filler followed by the show. Start winamp 30 minutes prior to show start and it should work just fine. 

--
Phil / w2lie

Monitor Long Island, Inc.
d/b/a W2LIE.net

347-829-SCAN (7226)
http://www.w2lie.net

Please excuse any typing errors, message sent from my iPhone

On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:00 PM, "bob cavanaugh" <bobdavcav at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi all, I?m sending this to both lists because I want to know what both sides of the conversation think about this. For those of you on the icecast list, can I have a recommendation on the right tool to broadcast with? If you like, I?ll send you my prerecorded shows, just tell me what the best way to send those is. For the audacity list now, would it be possible to develop a broadcasting tool for Audasity? I can see how it would mostly work, but there is one problem. How I see it working is that I start recording the broadcast, so I start talking, import the first set of songs, and then press play. Then, I would move the cursor to the end of the project and start recording my next talk segment. The only problem I see with this is that in Audasity, you can?t play and record at the same time. Well, you can, but the broadcast would be full of breaks when I switch inputs to record the songs from the player. To the icecast list, what do you recommend as a tool for broadcasting? The other problem with Edcast is that you can?t change the playlist unless you are on the mic unless you happen to have vision, which I do not, so my screen reader is going to come over the air, which I don?t want.
> 
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From mcc at fid4.com  Wed Aug 18 15:30:35 2010
From: mcc at fid4.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:30:35 -0400
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast2 / edcast Initial Setup Question
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1008161202560.3480@data.home>
References: <4C6862A6.6080109@fid4.com>
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  On 8/16/2010 5:16 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Michael C. Cambria wrote:
>
>> I can't seen to get edcast standalone to let me do anything except live
>> streaming, via rear mic (or line-in or front mic).  From some research
>> (links below), live streaming can be turned off (a big red X), but I
>> can't seem to turn it off.  I've already seen import source being a
>> CD-Drive etc. vs line-in/microphone.
>
> Edcast standalone only does live streaming, and IMHO the presence of 
> the live streaming checkbox in the standalone UI is a bug.  Only the 
> plugin versions have the option to turn it off.  This is because they 
> can also accept input from the associated player, whereas the 
> standalone version obviously has no player and hence no other input 
> source.
>
> As has been said here already, you should be able to change your 
> soundcard input to accept outpu from other players or from the CD drive.

Hopefully this will save time for someone else...

Turns out all 5 of my machines don't have this ability in the (Dell) 
Integrated Audio, or at least the Windows drivers can't make use of 
it.    I have Win7 (64bit) and XPSP3 machines.  In most cases I have 
"SIGMATEL STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio".  If the HW actually has a mixer, 
I should be able to find out next time I boot FreeBSD or Fedora on one 
of these boxes.

In work (yet another Dell), I was able to enable "stereo mix" and 
anything I play with VLC, WMP etc. can be used by Edcast Standalone for 
Icecast.

Now the question is do I want a PCIe or just PCI sound card?  Win7 64bit 
support a must.  This assumes I have a free slot <g>

Thanks to everyone for all your help getting started.

MikeC



From tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au  Fri Aug 20 10:19:44 2010
From: tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au (Tom Sparks)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:19:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Icecast] icecast relays
Message-ID: <990938.42795.qm@web36404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are there any icecast relays for people who don't have the bandwidth to stream to more then 1 listener?


tom_a_sparks
Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak


      


From ariel at cafelug.org.ar  Fri Aug 20 14:44:53 2010
From: ariel at cafelug.org.ar (Ariel Wainer)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:44:53 -0300
Subject: [Icecast] icecast relays
In-Reply-To: <990938.42795.qm@web36404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <990938.42795.qm@web36404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C6E94E5.1080109@cafelug.org.ar>

Tom Sparks wrote:
> Are there any icecast relays for people who don't have the bandwidth to stream to more then 1 listener?
>
>
> tom_a_sparks
> Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak
>   

If you content is free (as in freedom) you can use giss.tv.


From nicholas at nicholaswyoung.com  Mon Aug 23 23:32:07 2010
From: nicholas at nicholaswyoung.com (Nicholas Young)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:32:07 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Using authentication just for metrics
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSwMP7Y9ssPA72rhDFkBM+R_WEW4pPMnXi8KHi@mail.gmail.com>

Hey -

I'm researching what it would take to just use authentication in Icecast
(like the POSTing to a URL) for metrics, rather than actually authenticating
the user.

Icecast doesn't pass in the listener's IP address as part of the POST, or
does it? If so, is there something I could turn off that would prevent the
user from being
prompted for authentication?

If this won't work, that's fine. As an alternative, I'll get my hands dirty
and write some code to make it work. (If I go this route, I know this isn't
the dev list, but - what language would Icecast be in, if any of you know
offhand? C? C++?)

Nicholas
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From karl at xiph.org  Tue Aug 24 00:52:55 2010
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:52:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Using authentication just for metrics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikSwMP7Y9ssPA72rhDFkBM+R_WEW4pPMnXi8KHi@mail.gmail.com>
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On 24/08/10 00:32, Nicholas Young wrote:
> Hey -
>
> I'm researching what it would take to just use authentication in Icecast
> (like the POSTing to a URL) for metrics, rather than actually authenticating
> the user.
>
> Icecast doesn't pass in the listener's IP address as part of the POST, or
> does it? If so, is there something I could turn off that would prevent the
> user from being
> prompted for authentication?
>

The IP is part of the POST sent by listener_add, and as long as you send 
back the icecast-auth-user header (and no other restrictions apply like 
max-listeners) then your listeners will not notice.

karl.




From rajeshnautiyal213 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 05:16:44 2010
From: rajeshnautiyal213 at gmail.com (Rajesh Nautiyal)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:16:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Icecast] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Message-ID: <789629336.412533.1282886204980.JavaMail.app@ech3-cdn07.prod>

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