From kosnickx at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 07:57:19 2009 From: kosnickx at gmail.com (kosnickx) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:57:19 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements Message-ID: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. Is this ok with icecast? If the answer is yes then could anyone recommend some distro that would be fine to install to this system in order to have icecast? I was thinking of fluxbuntu. From karl at xiph.org Tue Feb 3 14:17:08 2009 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:17:08 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <498851E4.1020900@xiph.org> kosnickx wrote: > Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc > is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. > Is this ok with icecast? should be, icecast is mainly I/O bound. > If the answer is yes then could anyone recommend some distro that would > be fine to install to this system in order to have icecast? I was > thinking of fluxbuntu. Not sure, you'll want to run with the least amount of gui as possible, as they tend to be real pigs on resources. karl. From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de Tue Feb 3 16:12:23 2009 From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:12:23 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49886CE7.20404@afthd.tu-darmstadt.de> kosnickx schrieb: > Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc > is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. > Is this ok with icecast? > As long as you don't try to run an encoder on that box too... > If the answer is yes then could anyone recommend some distro that would > be fine to install to this system in order to have icecast? I was > thinking of fluxbuntu. I'd suggest something totally minimalistic - like Damn Small Linux. and don't even think of starting up the x-server. Thomas From kosnickx at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 19:25:17 2009 From: kosnickx at gmail.com (kosnickx) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:25:17 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: <20090203141605.GA15813@nowster.org.uk> References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> <20090203141605.GA15813@nowster.org.uk> Message-ID: <49889A1D.10500@gmail.com> Paul Martin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:57:19AM +0200, kosnickx wrote: > >> Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc >> is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. >> Is this ok with icecast? >> > > Are you going to use this to serve already compressed material or are you > going to be compressing on the fly (live material)? > > For the first, it should be fine, but you're going to be struggling to > compress audio in real time on that platform. > > First of all thank you all for your answers. Well i don't understand (and i believe this is because i probably don't know exactly how icecast works) what you mean if i will be serving "already compressed" or "on the fly" material. Does icecast compress the material as well? So far what i did was : use some application (idjc usually) to send my mp3s to icecast and it was up to icecast to serve those mp3s to "listeners". And i did this both when i was streaming "live" and when i made a playlist. The concept i am thinking is : - use some application to stream music (as well as voice - live like an old school radio) to this specific icecast server - use this specific icecast server as a relay one to another icecast server which has the ability to server more listeners local application streaming to -> relay icecast server (the 133 mmx with 32 mb of ram) -> (big) icecast server (ability to serve enough listeners) From aawolfe at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 19:46:08 2009 From: aawolfe at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfe) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:46:08 -0500 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: <49889A1D.10500@gmail.com> References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> <20090203141605.GA15813@nowster.org.uk> <49889A1D.10500@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM, kosnickx wrote: > Paul Martin wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:57:19AM +0200, kosnickx wrote: >> >>> Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc >>> is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. >>> Is this ok with icecast? >>> >> >> Are you going to use this to serve already compressed material or are you >> going to be compressing on the fly (live material)? >> >> For the first, it should be fine, but you're going to be struggling to >> compress audio in real time on that platform. >> >> > First of all thank you all for your answers. > Well i don't understand (and i believe this is because i probably don't > know exactly how icecast works) what you mean if i will be serving > "already compressed" or "on the fly" material. Does icecast compress the > material as well? So far what i did was : use some application (idjc > usually) to send my mp3s to icecast and it was up to icecast to serve > those mp3s to "listeners". And i did this both when i was streaming > "live" and when i made a playlist. > The concept i am thinking is : > - use some application to stream music (as well as voice - live like an > old school radio) to this specific icecast server > - use this specific icecast server as a relay one to another icecast > server which has the ability to server more listeners > > local application streaming to -> > relay icecast server (the 133 mmx with 32 mb of ram) -> > (big) icecast server (ability to serve > enough listeners) > should be fine, as long as you don't need to re encode the stream (for instance to support multiple streams of different quality/bitrates, or multiple formats like mp3 and ogg). like others said, do not run a gui. but is there any need for this intermediate server since you have access to a bigger, better one somewhere else? whats the point of it? > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > From kosnickx at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 19:52:55 2009 From: kosnickx at gmail.com (kosnickx) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:52:55 +0200 Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> <20090203141605.GA15813@nowster.org.uk> <49889A1D.10500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4988A097.2020002@gmail.com> Aaron Wolfe wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:25 PM, kosnickx wrote: > >> Paul Martin wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 09:57:19AM +0200, kosnickx wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, i am thinking of installing Icecast to some old pc of mine. The pc >>>> is a pentium mmx at 166 with memory of 32 MB. >>>> Is this ok with icecast? >>>> >>>> >>> Are you going to use this to serve already compressed material or are you >>> going to be compressing on the fly (live material)? >>> >>> For the first, it should be fine, but you're going to be struggling to >>> compress audio in real time on that platform. >>> >>> >>> >> First of all thank you all for your answers. >> Well i don't understand (and i believe this is because i probably don't >> know exactly how icecast works) what you mean if i will be serving >> "already compressed" or "on the fly" material. Does icecast compress the >> material as well? So far what i did was : use some application (idjc >> usually) to send my mp3s to icecast and it was up to icecast to serve >> those mp3s to "listeners". And i did this both when i was streaming >> "live" and when i made a playlist. >> The concept i am thinking is : >> - use some application to stream music (as well as voice - live like an >> old school radio) to this specific icecast server >> - use this specific icecast server as a relay one to another icecast >> server which has the ability to server more listeners >> >> local application streaming to -> >> relay icecast server (the 133 mmx with 32 mb of ram) -> >> (big) icecast server (ability to serve >> enough listeners) >> >> > > should be fine, as long as you don't need to re encode the stream (for > instance to support multiple streams of different quality/bitrates, or > multiple formats like mp3 and ogg). > like others said, do not run a gui. > but is there any need for this intermediate server since you have > access to a bigger, better one somewhere else? whats the point of it? > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Icecast mailing list >> Icecast at xiph.org >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > yes there is (at least from my point of view - of cource anyone could comment my idea and correct me if i am wrong). i want to use liquidsoap with icecast. the "bigger" one is rented from some streaming company and i don't have access to install liquidsoap there. so i thought i should install another icecast server locally at my place and use it as a relay one. and install liquidsoap as well ;) thx again guys. From holbora at yahoo.com Tue Feb 3 20:09:29 2009 From: holbora at yahoo.com (holbora marius) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:09:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Icecast] (no subject) Message-ID: <257466.21321.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Please help me (step by step) to use icecast.Thank you very much. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Geoff at QuiteLikely.com Tue Feb 3 22:00:33 2009 From: Geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:00:33 +0200 (IST) Subject: [Icecast] icecast system requirements In-Reply-To: <4988A097.2020002@gmail.com> References: <4987F8DF.5040506@gmail.com> <20090203141605.GA15813@nowster.org.uk> <49889A1D.10500@gmail.com> <4988A097.2020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: kosnickx wrote: > yes there is (at least from my point of view - of cource anyone could > comment my idea and correct me if i am wrong). i want to use liquidsoap > with icecast. the "bigger" one is rented from some streaming company and > i don't have access to install liquidsoap there. so i thought i should > install another icecast server locally at my place and use it as a relay > one. and install liquidsoap as well ;) first, I'm not certain that the machine will have the required power to do much processing with Liquidsoap. But even if it did, you'd still be able to send the resulting stream directly to your hosted Icecast cerver, wouldn't you? Geoff. From Geoff at QuiteLikely.com Tue Feb 3 22:04:21 2009 From: Geoff at QuiteLikely.com (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:04:21 +0200 (IST) Subject: [Icecast] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <257466.21321.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <257466.21321.qm@web37905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: holbora marius wrote: > Please help me (step by step) to use icecast.Thank you very much. Before anyone can help you, we'll need to know a few things: 1. What do you want to do with it (e.g. live broadcasts, automation, serving audio files, etc)? 2. Which operating system are you using? Please list systems for all computers involved if you will be using more than one PC. 3. Do you have any parts of your system in place already or are you starting completely from scratch? Once we have the answers to these questions, it will be easier for us to provide advice. Geoff. From andy at milonic.com Wed Feb 4 11:47:13 2009 From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:47:13 -0000 Subject: [Icecast] Mono Output Message-ID: <25572DD3885F414D87309B1A91F26F89@milonic30d8d69> Hi All, Is it possible to send output in mono using Icecast? Also, would that mean I would only be sending one channel so effectively halving the bandwidth? Regards, Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From takashi at cpqd.com.br Wed Feb 4 12:03:45 2009 From: takashi at cpqd.com.br (Takashi Tome) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:03:45 -0200 Subject: [Icecast] RES: (no subject) Message-ID: Hi, All I'm totally new here, too. Does Icecast use any multicast protocol? Thanks a lot. TakashiTome -----Mensagem original----- De: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org]Em nome de Geoff Shang Enviada em: ter?a-feira, 3 de fevereiro de 2009 20:04 Para: holbora marius Cc: icecast at xiph.org Assunto: Re: [Icecast] (no subject) holbora marius wrote: > Please help me (step by step) to use icecast.Thank you very much. Before anyone can help you, we'll need to know a few things: 1. What do you want to do with it (e.g. live broadcasts, automation, serving audio files, etc)? 2. Which operating system are you using? Please list systems for all computers involved if you will be using more than one PC. 3. Do you have any parts of your system in place already or are you starting completely from scratch? Once we have the answers to these questions, it will be easier for us to provide advice. Geoff. _______________________________________________ Icecast mailing list Icecast at xiph.org http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast From aawolfe at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 13:27:18 2009 From: aawolfe at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfe) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:27:18 -0500 Subject: [Icecast] Mono Output In-Reply-To: <25572DD3885F414D87309B1A91F26F89@milonic30d8d69> References: <25572DD3885F414D87309B1A91F26F89@milonic30d8d69> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Andy Woolley wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it possible to send output in mono using Icecast? > yes > Also, would that mean I would only be sending one channel so effectively > halving the bandwidth? yes > > Regards, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast at xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > From charlie at playlouder.com Thu Feb 5 14:13:57 2009 From: charlie at playlouder.com (Charlie Allom) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] m3u generation prefers one TCP port Message-ID: <20090205141357.GR760@eatyourpets.com> I have auto-generated m3u's preferring port :8000 even when accessed from :80 8000 80 ~% w3m -dump_source http://icecast.playlouder.com:80/totalrock.m3u http://icecast.playlouder.com:8000/totalrock ~% Is this a bug or misinterpretation of the config? C. -- 020 7729 4797 http://blog.playlouder.com/ From karl at xiph.org Thu Feb 5 15:00:09 2009 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:00:09 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] m3u generation prefers one TCP port In-Reply-To: <20090205141357.GR760@eatyourpets.com> References: <20090205141357.GR760@eatyourpets.com> Message-ID: <498AFEF9.4080105@xiph.org> Charlie Allom wrote: > I have auto-generated m3u's preferring port :8000 even when accessed > from :80 > > > 8000 > > > 80 > > > ~% w3m -dump_source http://icecast.playlouder.com:80/totalrock.m3u > http://icecast.playlouder.com:8000/totalrock > ~% > > Is this a bug or misinterpretation of the config? The automatic m3u generation uses the Host: header if available and falls back to the and first port defined when not. karl. From charlie at playlouder.com Thu Feb 5 15:03:23 2009 From: charlie at playlouder.com (Charlie Allom) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:03:23 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] m3u generation prefers one TCP port In-Reply-To: <498AFEF9.4080105@xiph.org> References: <20090205141357.GR760@eatyourpets.com> <498AFEF9.4080105@xiph.org> Message-ID: <20090205150323.GS760@eatyourpets.com> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:00:09PM +0000, Karl Heyes wrote: > Charlie Allom wrote: >> I have auto-generated m3u's preferring port :8000 even when accessed >> from :80 >> >> >> 8000 >> >> >> 80 >> >> >> ~% w3m -dump_source http://icecast.playlouder.com:80/totalrock.m3u >> http://icecast.playlouder.com:8000/totalrock >> ~% >> >> Is this a bug or misinterpretation of the config? > > The automatic m3u generation uses the Host: header if available and > falls back to the and first port defined when not. Thanks - I will kill && start it later today to get this working! C. -- 020 7729 4797 http://blog.playlouder.com/ From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de Sat Feb 7 10:48:23 2009 From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:48:23 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] RES: (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498D66F7.4030503@afthd.tu-darmstadt.de> Takashi Tome schrieb: > Hi, All > > I'm totally new here, too. > Does Icecast use any multicast protocol? > no it doesn't Thomas From chris at mlansd.com Sun Feb 15 05:19:03 2009 From: chris at mlansd.com (Chris J) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:19:03 -0800 Subject: [Icecast] I cannot listen to anything /log below can you help? Message-ID: <1234675143.9605.0.camel@xBOx> ... [2009-02-14 20:54:27] INFO ices-core/main Shutdown complete [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO ices-core/main IceS 2.0.1 started... [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO signals/signal_usr1_handler Metadata update requested [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO playlist-basic/playlist_basic_get_next_filename Loading playlist from file "/etc/ices2/playlist.txt" [2009-02-14 21:01:02] WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Error opening file "[...]": No such file or directory [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently playing "/etc/ices2/music/09 Waiting on Today.ogg" [2009-02-14 21:01:02] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial connect to localhost:8000 (Login failed: Success) [2009-02-14 21:01:02] DBUG reencode/reencode_clear Clearing reencoder [2009-02-14 21:01:02] DBUG input/input_loop An instance died, removing it [2009-02-14 21:01:02] DBUG input/input_flush_queue Input queue flush requested [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO input/input_loop All instances removed, shutting down... [2009-02-14 21:01:02] INFO ices-core/main Shutdown complete [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO ices-core/main IceS 2.0.1 started... [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO signals/signal_usr1_handler Metadata update requested [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO playlist-basic/playlist_basic_get_next_filename Loading playlist from file "/etc/ices2/playlist.txt" [2009-02-14 21:05:52] WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Error opening file "[...]": No such file or directory [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently playing "/etc/ices2/music/09 Waiting on Today.ogg" [2009-02-14 21:05:52] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial connect to localhost:8000 (Login failed: Success) [2009-02-14 21:05:52] DBUG reencode/reencode_clear Clearing reencoder [2009-02-14 21:05:52] DBUG input/input_loop An instance died, removing it [2009-02-14 21:05:52] DBUG input/input_flush_queue Input queue flush requested [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO input/input_loop All instances removed, shutting down... [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO ices-core/main Shutdown complete root at xBOx:/var/log/ices# -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karl at xiph.org Sun Feb 15 13:04:16 2009 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:04:16 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] I cannot listen to anything /log below can you help? In-Reply-To: <1234675143.9605.0.camel@xBOx> References: <1234675143.9605.0.camel@xBOx> Message-ID: <499812D0.4010202@xiph.org> Chris J wrote: > [2009-02-14 21:05:52] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently > playing "/etc/ices2/music/09 Waiting on Today.ogg" > [2009-02-14 21:05:52] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial > connect to localhost:8000 (Login failed: Success) either you are not running icecast on port 8000 on localhost or a firewall is rejecting the connection.. karl. From kelo3184 at aim.com Tue Feb 17 20:24:01 2009 From: kelo3184 at aim.com (kelo3184 at aim.com) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:24:01 -0500 Subject: [Icecast] Having trouble listening to station with Audiorealm player. Message-ID: <8CB5F54CE427C03-1128-8EB@WEBMAIL-MY32.sysops.aol.com> Hi, I am having trouble listening to my live broadcasts using the audiorealm player. I am using SAM4 and MySQL with Icecast2. My operating system is Windows XP Home edition. The track info and history all show up fine, but the sound is still missing. I have been trying to get this to work for over a week now with no success. If there's anything else I need to tell you, please let me know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de Thu Feb 19 11:53:40 2009 From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:53:40 +0000 Subject: [Icecast] Having trouble listening to station with Audiorealm player. In-Reply-To: <8CB5F54CE427C03-1128-8EB@WEBMAIL-MY32.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB5F54CE427C03-1128-8EB@WEBMAIL-MY32.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <499D4844.3090106@afthd.tu-darmstadt.de> kelo3184 at aim.com schrieb: > Hi, I am having trouble listening to my live broadcasts using the > audiorealm player. I am using SAM4 and MySQL with Icecast2. My > operating system is Windows XP Home edition. The track info and > history all show up fine, but the sound is still missing. I have been > trying to get this to work for over a week now with no success. If > there's anything else I need to tell you, please let me know. Does the stream work in other players? As this is an audiorealm problem your best choice is probably to contact their support: http://www.spacialaudio.com/index.php?page=support&/ Cheers Thomas From gallardino_2003 at yahoo.es Tue Feb 24 16:36:30 2009 From: gallardino_2003 at yahoo.es (Jose Gallardo) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:36:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Icecast] (no subject) Message-ID: <468412.43674.qm@web24713.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Thank you Jose Gallardo ?S? el Bello 51 de People en Espa?ol! ?Es tu oportunidad de Brillar! Sube tus fotos ya. http://www.51bello.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raju at linux-delhi.org Fri Feb 27 17:19:58 2009 From: raju at linux-delhi.org (Raj Mathur) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:49:58 +0530 Subject: [Icecast] Frequent disconnects when relaying Message-ID: <200902272249.59184.raju@linux-delhi.org> Hi, We're running primary server (A) that has two local streams from ices2 0.2 and a secondary server (B) that relays the two streams from A and has one local stream from ices2 in addition. Both A and B are in the same building, though not on the same LAN. Recently we've started having B disconnect one channel or the other frequently from A. All listeners on that channel on B get disconnected, and then B resumes the channel again after a while. This always happens during our peak time around 15:00 UTC and continues while the peak time lasts (a few hours). The setup was stable for about a year before that, and this is a new phenomenon. A is running Icecast 2.3.1-5 B is running Icecast 2.3.2-2 (upgraded from 2.3.1 earlier today) Both machines are on Debian Stable. When the disconnect happens, the messages in the primary server's (A) log are: [2009-02-27 18:03:28] INFO source/send_to_listener Client 662536 (nn.nn.nn.nn) has fallen too far behind, removing [2009-02-27 18:03:28] DBUG source/source_main Client removed [2009-02-27 18:03:28] INFO source/source_main listener count on /XX now 33 [2009-02-27 18:03:28] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node slow_listeners (11626) The messages on B are: [2009-02-27 18:03:36] INFO source/get_next_buffer End of Stream /XX [2009-02-27 18:03:36] INFO source/source_shutdown Source "/XX" exiting [2009-02-27 18:03:36] DBUG source/source_clear_source clearing source "/XX" [2009-02-27 18:03:36] DBUG stats/process_source_event delete source node /XX [Sorry, lines have wrapped]. Appreciate any help in tracing and solving this problem. Can provide pcap files if you let me know how much data would be useful. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju at kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves