[Icecast] Winamp v5.22 / oddcast / aac+

Greg J. Ogonowski greg at orban.com
Tue May 30 23:02:46 PDT 2006


Other than the software that is resident on the mobile phones at the 
time of purchase, I don't know of anything else yet.
We might be planning a CE Player, since that area is definitely 
untapped, but I'm not sure yet.
-greg.



At 22:56 2006-05-30, Alexander Dal Farra wrote:
>Something else, Greg. Are you aware of any 3G / 2.5G (EDGE) clients for
>mobile phones that support AAC+ streaming? Be it java or symbian based.
>
>Thanks
>Alex
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On Behalf
>Of Greg J. Ogonowski
>Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 07:40
>To: Ross Levis; icecast at xiph.org
>Subject: Re: [Icecast] Winamp v5.22 / oddcast / aac+
>
>I believe that Oddsock is using a Content Type of aacp.
>Using a .aac extension with this Content Type may present a conflict.
>This might actually be by design.
>I will do some further testing with Winamp and report here tomorrow.
>I will also double-check with the developer of Winamp for complete
>clarification.
>
>FYI, Orban Opticodec-PC allows the use of either Content Type of aac or
>aacp. aac is technically all that is necessary. The history of the aacp
>Content Type was to allow the stream to show in the SHOUTcast Directory, but
>since Icecast streams cannot show in the SHOUTcast Directory anyway, this
>doesn't matter, and  a content type of aac should be used. This way there is
>one Content Type for either AAC or aacPlus streams, and the decoder takes it
>from there.
>
>-greg.
>
>
>
>At 20:12 2006-05-30, Ross Levis wrote:
> >Ok, it's not as bad as I thought.  With some investigation and
> >discussion with a "Major Dude" in the Winamp forums, it appears to be a
> >bug in Winamp v5.22 with streams that end with the mountpoint extension
> >.aac.  I changed the mountpoint to end with .aacp and now it works fine.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ross.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ross Levis" <ross at stationplaylist.com>
> >To: <icecast at xiph.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:25 PM
> >Subject: [Icecast] Winamp v5.22 / oddcast / aac+
> >
> >
> >I'm not sure if this is an icecast issue or oddcast issue or both, but
> >the latest Winamp (v5.22) is not now playing AAC+ streams encoded with
> >Oddcast.  Winamp v5.21 and earlier versions work fine.  This may be
> >some attempt by Winamp developers to force people to use Shoutcast, or
> >to prevent oddcast from using their enc_aacplus.dll.
> >
> >Right, just took some time to set up the Shoutcast DSP to encode AAC+
> >and send it to an Icecast server.  This is working and playing in
> >Winamp v5.22.  So it appears to be an Oddcast encoding issue.
> >
> >You may need to do some analysis Oddsock to see if you can duplicate
> >the Shoutcast DSP output byte for byte to get around this blocking they
> >seem to be doing.
> >
> >Nullsoft must think they are big enough now to enforce their ideals on
> >their customers.  In the meantime, I'm considering removing Winamp from
> >my list of compatible players on my website.  They can use Windows
> >Media Player, XMPlay, Foobar2000, etc.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ross.
> >
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