From xiphmont at xiph.org  Wed Mar  1 23:11:01 2006
From: xiphmont at xiph.org (Monty)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:11:01 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Motherfish III outage
Message-ID: <20060301231101.GB2684@localhost.localdomain>

Motherfish-III, xiph.org's main web/yp server suffered a partial raid
failure yesterday that slowly collapsed into a complete failure today.
The good news is that parts had been ordered, arriving about an hour
after the cloud of smoke.  We lost minimal data, if any.

Motherfish is in the process of rebuilding onto fresh drives now; I do
not have an ETS for complete restoral of services, but the outage is
being actively serviced.  In the meantime, www, dir and a few other
services will not be available.  Logins by xiph.org members should be
reenabled shortly (all old keys should still work).

Monty
Xiph.org


From dan at x-7.com  Fri Mar  3 06:18:12 2006
From: dan at x-7.com (Dan Regalia)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:18:12 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Stream fallbacks/spillovers/splashing
Message-ID: <MAIL-02Z2JQHeFXvjQN0001b6ae@mail-02.name-services.com>

Okay, a quick question,
 
I've got IceCast 2.3.1 setup on a demo server, And I've got some wierd
behavior going on...  
 
Here's the behavior:
 
I have my constant feed always running on mountpoint:  /switch
I have my main stream broadcasting:  /stream
someone connects to an alternate named stream: /krushradio 
 
They pull all the listeners from /switch and /stream to their stream.
 
If the listener (from /stream) refreshes their player, they will begin
listening to whats being broadcast on  /stream again
 
My assumption is that the Fallback-override should only pertain to the
mountpoint in which it is contained, and not the entire server.
Unless the fallback-override should not be used at all, and simply listing
the fallback mount will have it provide the functionality that i want, which
is to have a place for people to go when the regular stream is not in use,
and when it does have a broadcaster, that it moves those listeners back to
the main stream (/krushradio), eg...  someone is listening to /krushradio
with no broadcasting (playing /switch)  and then I connect to /krushradio to
broadcast, it stops the feed from /switch (being broadcast over /krushradio)
and plays my stream instead.
 
I hope that makes sense...
 
Here are the sample configs for the 3 streams:
 
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/switch</mount-name>
        <mp3-metadata-interval>1200</mp3-metadata-interval>
         <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
         <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <mp3-metadata-interval>4096</mp3-metadata-interval>
    </mount>
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/stream</mount-name>
        <password>hackme</password>
        <max-listeners>200</max-listeners>
        <intro>/krushradio.mp3</intro>
        <fallback-mount>/switch</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
        <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
        <public>1</public>
        <stream-url>http://www.krushradio.com</stream-url>
        <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
        <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <mp3-metadata-interval>4096</mp3-metadata-interval>
    </mount>
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/krushradio</mount-name>
        <password>hackmemore</password>
        <max-listeners>200</max-listeners>
        <intro>/krushradio.mp3</intro>
        <fallback-mount>/stream</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
        <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
        <public>1</public>
        <stream-url>http://www.krushradio.com</stream-url>
         <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
         <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <mp3-metadata-interval>4096</mp3-metadata-interval>
    </mount>

 
Thanks for your help in advance!
~DocNasty
~Krushradio.com
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From seth.johnson at RealMeasures.dyndns.org  Fri Mar  3 07:25:47 2006
From: seth.johnson at RealMeasures.dyndns.org (Seth Johnson)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:25:47 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Important Statement to Review for Signing
Message-ID: <4407EF7B.8D3ED863@RealMeasures.dyndns.org>


(Seems to me that Icecast folks would be particularly concerned
about this.  Please consider the following, lend your signatures,
and also *send it on* to appropriate interested parties.  If you
are a blogger or know clueful bloggers, please try to have it
posted in a highly visible forum.  -- Seth Johnson)


Hello folks,

Please review the important joint statement below, related to the
WIPO Broadcaster's Treaty, and consider adding your signature if
you are an American citizen.  Also make sure those you know who
should sign are also given the opportunity.

Andy Oram has written a good letter to the US Delegation to WIPO
on the subject:
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/etel/2006/01/13/the-problem-with-webcasting.html?page=2

CPTech Links on the Treaty:
> http://www.cptech.org/ip/wipo/bt/index.html#Coments
Electronic Frontier Foundation Links:
> http://www.eff.org/IP/WIPO/broadcasting_treaty/
IP Justice Links:
> http://www.ipjustice.org/WIPO/broadcasters.shtml
Union for the Public Domain Links:
> http://www.public-domain.org/?q=node/47

The Latest Draft of the Treaty:
> http://www.cptech.org/ip/wipo/sccr12.2rev2.doc

A survey of relevant links:
> http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/wipo_and_the_war_against_the_i.html

If you choose to sign, please send your name along with an
affiliation or appropriate short phrase to attach to your name
for identification purposes, to mailto:seth.p.johnson at gmail.com. 
If your organization endorses the statement, please indicate that
separately, so your organization will be listed under that
header.

Thank you for consideration.


Seth Johnson
Corresponding Secretary
New Yorkers for Fair Use


Joint Statement to Congress:


Dear (Relevant Congressional Committees) (cc the WIPO
Delegation):

Negotiations are currently underway at the World Intellectual
Property Organization (WIPO) to develop a treaty giving
broadcasters power to suppress currently lawful communications.
The United States delegation is also advocating similar rights
for "webcasters" through which the authors of new works
communicate them to the public.

Some provisions of the proposed "Treaty on the Protection of
Broadcasting Organizations" would merely update and standardize
existing legal norms, but several proposals would require
Congress to enact sweeping new laws that give private parties
control over information, communication, and even copyrighted
works of others, whenever they have broadcast or "webcast" the
work.

The novel policy areas addressed by this treaty go beyond
ordinary treaty-making that seeks worldwide adherence to U.S.
policy. Instead, this initiative invades Congress? prerogative to
develop and establish national policy.  Indeed, even as Congress
is debating how best to protect network neutrality, treaty
negotiators are debating how to eliminate it.

The threat to personal liberties presented by this treaty is too
grave to allow these new policy initiatives be handed over to an
unelected delegation to negotiate with foreign countries, leaving
Congress with the sole option whether to acquiesce.  When dealing
with policies that are related to copyright and communications,
Congress's assigned powers and responsibility under Article I,
Section 8 of the Constitution become particularly important.  We
urge two important steps.  First, the new proposed regulations
should be published in the Federal Register, with an invitation
to the public to comment. Second, the appropriate House and
Senate committees should hold hearings to more fully explore the
impact of these novel legal restrictions on commerce, freedom of
speech, copyright holders, network neutrality, and communications
policy.

Americans currently enjoy substantial freedoms with respect to
broadcast and webcast communications.  Under the proposed treaty,
the existing options available to commercial enterprises and
entrepreneurs as well as the general public to communicate news,
information and entertainment would be limited by a new private
gatekeeper who adds nothing of value to the content.
Communications policies currently under discussion at the FCC
would be impacted.  Individuals and small businesses would be
limited in their freedom of speech.  Copyright owners would find
their freedom to license their works limited by whether the work
had been broadcast or webcast.  The principle of network
neutrality, already the subject of congressional hearings, would
be all but destroyed.

As able as the staff of the United States Patent and Trademark
Office and the Library of Congress may be, it was never intended
that they alone should stake out the United States national
policy to be promoted before an unelected international body in
entirely new areas abridging civil liberties. Congress should be
the first to establish America?s national policies in this new
area so that our WIPO delegation will have sufficient guidance to
achieve legitimate objectives without impairing Constitutional
principles such as freedom of speech and assembly, without
impairing the value of copyrights, and without granting to
private parties arbitrary power to suppress existing freedoms or
burden new technologies.

We cannot afford for Congress to wait for the Senate to be
presented with a fully formed treaty calling for the enacting of
domestic law at odds with fundamental American liberties foreign
to American and international legal norms, and that would bring
to a close many of the benefits of widespread personal computing
and the end-to-end connectivity brought by the Internet.  We ask
Congress to use its authority now to shape these important
communications policies impacting constitutionally based
copyright laws and First Amendment liberties.

Signed,

(Affiliations for individual signers are for identification
only.  Endorsing organizations are listed separately.)


    William Abernathy, Independent Technical Editor
    Scottie D. Arnett, President, Info-Ed, Inc.
    Jonathan Askin, Pulver.com
    John Bachir, Ibiblio.org
    Tom Barger, DMusic.com
    Fred Benenson, FreeCulture.org
    Daniel Berninger, VON Coalition
    Eric Blossom, GNU Radio
    Joshua Breitbart, Media Tank
    Dave Burstein, Editor, DSL Prime
    Michael Calabrese, Vice President, New America Foundation
    Dave A. Chakrabarti, Community Technologist, CTCNet Chicago
    Steven Cherry, Senior Associate Editor, IEEE Spectrum
    Steven Clift, Publicus.Net
    Roland J. Cole, J.D., Ph.D., Executive Director, Software 
        Patent Institute
    Gordon Cook, Editor, Publisher and Owner since 1992 of the 
        COOK Report on Internet Protocol
    Walt Crawford, Editor/Publisher, Cites & Insights
    Cynthia H. de Lorenzi, Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy
    Cory Doctorow, Author, journalist, Fulbright Chair, EFF 
        Fellow
    Marshall Eubanks, CEO, AmericaFree.tv
    Harold Feld, Senior Vice President, Media Access Project
    Miles R. Fidelman, President, The Center for Civic Networking
    Richard Forno  (bio: http://www.infowarrior.org/rick.html)
    Laura N. Gasaway, Professor of Law, University of North 
        Carolina
    Paul Gherman, University Librarian, Vanderbilt University
    Shubha Ghosh, Professor of Law, Southern Methodist University
    Paul Ginsparg, Cornell University
    Fred R. Goldstein, Ionary Consulting
    Robin Gross, IP Justice
    Michael Gurstein, New Jersey Institute for Technology
    Jon Hall, President, Linux International
    Chuck Hamaker, Atkins Library, University of North Carolina -
        Charlotte
    Charles M. Hannum, consultant, founder of The NetBSD Project
    Dewayne Hendricks, CEO, Dandin Group
    David R Hughes, CEO, Old Colorado City Communications, 1993 
        EFF Pioneer Award
    Paul Hyland, Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
    David S. Isenberg, Ph.D., Founder & CEO, isen.com, LLC
    Seth Johnson, New Yorkers for Fair Use
    Paul Jones, School of Information and Library Science, 
        University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
    Peter D. Junger, Professor of Law Emeritus, Case Western 
        Reserve University
    Brewster Kahle, Internet Archive
    Jerry Kang, Professor of Law, UCLA School of Law
    Dennis S. Karjala, Jack E. Brown Professor of Law, Arizona 
        State University
    Dan Krimm, Independent Musician
    Michael J. Kurtz, Astronomer and Computer Scientist, Harvard-
        Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
    Michael Maranda, President, Association For Community 
        Networking
    Kevin Marks, mediAgora
    Anthony McCann, www.beyondthecommons.com
    Sascha Meinrath, Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network, 
        Free Press
    Edmund Mierzwinski, Consumer Program Director, U.S. Public 
        Interest Research Group
    Lee N. Miller, Ph.D., Editor Emeritus, Ecological Society of 
        America
    John Mitchell, InteractionLaw
    Tom Moritz, Chief, Knowledge Managment, Getty Research 
        Institute
    Andrew Odlyzko, University of Minnesota
    Ken Olthoff, Advisory Board, EFF Austin
    Andy Oram, Editor, O'Reilly Media
    Bruce Perens (bio at http://perens.com/Bio.html)
    Ian Peter, Senior Partner, Ian Peter and Associates Pty Ltd
    Malla Pollack, Law Professor, American Justice School of Law
    Jeff Pulver, Pulver.com
    Tom Raftery, PodLeaders.com
    David P. Reed, contributor to original Internet Protocol 
        design
    Jerome H. Reichman, Bunyan S. Womble Professor of Law
    Lawrence Rosen, Rosenlaw & Einschlag; Stanford University 
        Lecturer in Law
    Bruce Schneier, security technologist and CTO, Counterpane
    David J. Smith, Specialist of Distributed Content 
        Distribution and Protocols, Michigan State University
    Michael E. Smith, LXNY
    Richard Stallman, President, Free Software Foundation
    Fred Stutzman, Ph.D. Student, UNC Chapel Hill
    Peter Suber, Open Access Project Director, Public Knowledge
    Jay Sulzberger, New Yorkers for Fair Use
    Aaron Swartz, infogami
    Stephen H. Unger, Professor, Computer Science Department, 
        Columbia University
    Eric F. Van de Velde, Ph.D., Director, Library Information 
        Technology, California Institute of Technology
    Tom Vogt, independent computer security researcher
    David Weinberger, Harvard Berkman Center
    Frannie Wellings, Free Press
    Adam Werbach, President, Ironweed Films
    Stephen Wolff, igewolff.net
    Brett Wynkoop, Wynn Data Ltd.
    John Young, Cryptome.org


Endorsing Organizations:

    Association For Community Networking (AFCN)
    The Center for Civic Networking
    Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
    Contact Communications
    The COOK Report on Internet Protocol
    Cryptome.org
    Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network
    Dandin Group
    FreeCulture.org
    Free Press
    Free Software Foundation
    Illinois Community Technology Coalition
    Internet Archive
    Ionary Consulting
    IP Justice
    isen.com, LLC
    mediAgora
    New Yorkers for Fair Use
    Old Colorado City Communications
    Podleaders.com
    Pulver.com
    Rosenlaw & Einschlag
    U.S. Public Interest Research Group
    Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy
    Wyoming.com

--

[separate one-page attachment]

WHY PUBLIC SCRUTINY OF THE PROPOSED BROADCASTER TREATY IS NEEDED

If Congress were to hold public hearings, or if the US delegation
to WIPO were to publish the current proposal for public review
and comment, myriad voices from various segments of society could
come forward to show that the proposed Broadcaster's Treaty:

   * Is written to look like existing copyright treaties, but it 
     is not based on the constitutional requirements for 
     copyright protection, such as originality, and in fact is 
     antagonistic to copyrights

   * Is promoted as a way of standardizing existing signal 
     protection, but in fact extends well beyond signal 
     protection by giving broadcasters and webcasters a monopoly, 
     for 50 years, over the content created by others the moment 
     it is broadcast or transmitted over the Internet

   * Gives broadcasters greater rights than producers of original 
     works

   * Accords exclusive rights to non-authors in direct violation 
     of fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution

   * Attacks the principle of network neutrality which serves as 
     the basis by which the Internet has fostered a profound 
     expansion in human capacities and innovation

   * Grants privileges that extend beyond broadcast signals to 
     actually give broadcasters control over works conveyed 
     within a broadcast -- including copyrighted and public 
     domain works

   * Blocks fair use and other copyright provisions that enable 
     the public to make use of and benefit from published 
     information

   * Chills freedom of expression by extending unwarranted 
     controls over broadcast publication

   * Benefits broadcasters at the expense of the web, the public 
     and future innovation

   * Creates a de facto tax on copyrights, freedom of speech, 
     communications and technological progress, all for the 
     benefit of broadcasters and webcasters who have added 
     nothing to deserve such a windfall.



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Mar  3 07:40:01 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:40:01 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] Stream fallbacks/spillovers/splashing
In-Reply-To: <MAIL-02Z2JQHeFXvjQN0001b6ae@mail-02.name-services.com>
References: <MAIL-02Z2JQHeFXvjQN0001b6ae@mail-02.name-services.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603031707510.10698@data.home>

Dan Regalia wrote:

> My assumption is that the Fallback-override should only pertain to the
> mountpoint in which it is contained, and not the entire server.


You have found what I consider to be a bug in Icecast, though there seems 
to be no willingness to fix this.

If you have a stream which is a fallback for more than one source, any 
listener which fell back to it will be pulled forward to any source for 
which the stream was a fallback.

Example: You have two streams, /stream1.ogg and /stream2.ogg, and a 
fallback called /fallback.ogg.  If you have listeners to both /stream1.ogg 
and /stream2.ogg and both streams stop, all listeners will fall back 
to/fallback.ogg.  Then, if say /stream1.ogg reconects, all listeners will 
be moved to /stream1.ogg, regardless of whether they originally tuned in to 
/stream1.ogg or /stream2.ogg.  More confusing, if a person who originally 
tuned into /stream2.ogg, who is now on /stream1.ogg, stops their player and 
starts it again, they'll drop back through to /fallback.ogg.

I filed this as a bug in April last year 
(http://trac.xiph.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/642).  I even suggested how 
this might be fixed.  You'll notice the ticket has been closed.  Whilst 
it's possible to work around the bug, it's clunky in my opinion and Icecast 
doesn't act in a way a reasonable person would expect it to in this 
situation.

If you would like to work around this bug, take a look at Karl's 
explanation of how to do this using local relays: 
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2005-September/009947.html

Geoff.



From karl at xiph.org  Fri Mar  3 15:56:09 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:56:09 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Stream fallbacks/spillovers/splashing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603031707510.10698@data.home>
References: <MAIL-02Z2JQHeFXvjQN0001b6ae@mail-02.name-services.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0603031707510.10698@data.home>
Message-ID: <44086719.2000906@xiph.org>

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Dan Regalia wrote:
> 
>> My assumption is that the Fallback-override should only pertain to the
>> mountpoint in which it is contained, and not the entire server.

the override will take back listeners from the stream that the 
fallback-mount refers to (or some fallback of that).

> 
> You have found what I consider to be a bug in Icecast, though there 
> seems to be no willingness to fix this.

You're the only one that has said you consider it a bug.
...
> I filed this as a bug in April last year 
> (http://trac.xiph.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/642).  I even suggested 
> how this might be fixed.  You'll notice the ticket has been closed.  
> Whilst it's possible to work around the bug, it's clunky in my opinion 
> and Icecast doesn't act in a way a reasonable person would expect it to 
> in this situation.

Believe me, the approached you suggested is not as trivial as you may 
think. Feel free to give a compelling case for why the on-demand relay 
approach is 'Clunky' over the 'maintain fallback lists for each listener 
in the server', don't forget about situations other than Dan's where 
these lists may be triggered.  I'd rather have a tag in the <mount> that 
says the listeners dropping back to the fallback-mount need to be 
isolated and that creates a hidden on-demand relay automatically.

karl.



From bryan.brown at kcsb.org  Fri Mar  3 22:22:06 2006
From: bryan.brown at kcsb.org (Bryan Brown)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:22:06 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>	<20021219190945.A19172@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E022	6B7.3020506@qwest.net>	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>	<1040335378.1101.29.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E024A34.902	0502@qwest.net>	<1040339829.1100.104.camel@bogus.hackers.club>		<3E026694.50		00903@qwest.net>	<1040392291.1073.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E034C6E.8000807@qwest.net>	<1040404763.1073.43.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E035880.90206@qwest.net>	<1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
Message-ID: <4408C18E.7040404@kcsb.org>


Just for documentation, I wanted to follow up on how we 
resolved this...

We ended up replacing the memory, motherboard and processor 
- in that order. Luckily, we got the motherboard and 
processor replaced under warranty.

It appears that something was wrong with processor. Nothing 
else we replaced solved the problem. Dell decided, when 
replacing the motherboard, NOT to replace the CPU chip - 
which resulted in them making two trips out here instead of 
one.

In any case, thanks to everyone who provided feedback. It 
did end up being a hardware problem.

Bryan

P.S. The Gentoo installation of Icecast/Darkice was 
ridiculously simple. The Gentoo installation itself, on the 
other hand....

Bryan Brown wrote:
> I currently have Icecast 2.3.1 running with Darkice on a Fedora Core 4 
> box (with the 2.6.14 kernel). We have three streams running (all mp3) @ 
> 128kbs, 64kbs, and 24kbs.
> 
> I am consistently seeing the following error:
> 
> kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffffff
> 
> It does appear to be icecast causing the error. Oddly, when this first 
> started showing up, it would crash icecast entirely - meaning I couldn't 
> get any stream. Now, it seems that icecast continues to run, but only 
> one or two of the streams will fail.
> 
> Any ideas? I have a friend who's also looking around, but we're pretty 
> stumped as to what's causing the error.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bryan
> 
> P.S. This is a brand new hard drive, and a brand new installation of 
> fedora core and icecast. The computer itself is about 3 years old (Dell).
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 


From listen at chatlabel.de  Sat Mar  4 09:24:40 2006
From: listen at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:24:40 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] maxusers per server ?
Message-ID: <44095CD8.8040609@chatlabel.de>

hi together,

is there a way, to tell icecast the maxusers per server ? i only know 
the way to tell maxusers per mountpoint.

thanks and have a nice weekend
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From satrik at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 14:58:49 2006
From: satrik at gmail.com (SatRik)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:58:49 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast & Shoutcast
Message-ID: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
on my home server I'm using Icecast to stream my music, but a few days ago I
decided to try to increase the number of listeners by using an external
server with a greater band. The problem is that this server is Shoutcast and
after a week I still can't to make Shoutcast relayng from my Icecast2.

Is it actually possible to do this, or  am I wasting my time?

thanks very much

Satrik
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From msmith at xiph.org  Sat Mar  4 16:35:22 2006
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 17:35:22 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast & Shoutcast
In-Reply-To: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c1737210603040835p569f27fv915cbd397ecea510@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/4/06, SatRik <satrik at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  on my home server I'm using Icecast to stream my music, but a few days ago
> I decided to try to increase the number of listeners by using an external
> server with a greater band. The problem is that this server is Shoutcast and
> after a week I still can't to make Shoutcast relayng from my Icecast2.

This mailing list not appropriate for asking questions about
Shoutcast. Sorry, you'd be better asking on a shoutcast list
somewhere.

Mike


From dtrump1 at triadav.com  Sat Mar  4 16:54:21 2006
From: dtrump1 at triadav.com (Dick Trump)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:54:21 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast & Shoutcast
In-Reply-To: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <757071083.20060304105421@triadav.com>

SatRik wrote:
> Is it actually possible to do this, or  am I wasting my time?

I agree with Michael's comments but would add one thing.  I think you ARE wasting your time on the Shoutcast relay.  IMHO you would be much better off finding an Icecast2 server to do your relaying.  

-- 
Dick
dtrump1 at triadav.com



From satrik at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 19:17:42 2006
From: satrik at gmail.com (SatRik)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:17:42 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast & Shoutcast
In-Reply-To: <3c1737210603040835p569f27fv915cbd397ecea510@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2c67df0603040658w2e38efa5k669f78e776253e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c1737210603040835p569f27fv915cbd397ecea510@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2c67df0603041117v759e8319h149292a752fba986@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I know that,
but I thought that this was an Icecast configuration issue, as I find some
documentation (http://www.gnuware.com/icecast/unofficial/sect_07_03.html)
and it looks that all the questions depends from an Icecast configuration.

Sorry again.

Satrik


On 3/4/06, Michael Smith <msmith at xiph.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/4/06, SatRik <satrik at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  on my home server I'm using Icecast to stream my music, but a few days
> ago
> > I decided to try to increase the number of listeners by using an
> external
> > server with a greater band. The problem is that this server is Shoutcast
> and
> > after a week I still can't to make Shoutcast relayng from my Icecast2.
>
> This mailing list not appropriate for asking questions about
> Shoutcast. Sorry, you'd be better asking on a shoutcast list
> somewhere.
>
> Mike
>
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From mmsupport at charter.net  Sun Mar  5 00:24:38 2006
From: mmsupport at charter.net (mms)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:24:38 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] New to IceCast and trying to get 2.31 for Win32 running..
Message-ID: <001501c63feb$32691610$1901a8c0@pc01>

I have all the pieces together, and have read through the documentation for all the parts that pertain to both unix and windows.

o - I have a set of 120 mp3's I converted to Ogg format

o - I have the IceCast Server running on the Win Host.

o - I have OddcastV3 running

o - I can see the web interface at http://192.x.x.x:8000/ and logon, etc.

o - I appear to have one mount point, which was created within the Oddcast interface by me.

o - When I connect from my client pc using either my domain name or my local IP I get NO SOUND!

What gives? I'm like 99.9 % there!

I have tried to figure out why all day going through the config file, etc.

Thanks in advance to those who can help.

mm
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From adam at xs4all.nl  Mon Mar  6 11:04:45 2006
From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:04:45 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] setting up yp server
Message-ID: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>

hi,

Is there anyway I can get the sources for the YP server as implemented by 
icecast.org? Ir is there somewhere else I can source them?

kind regards,

adam


-- 



Adam Hyde
~/.nl

selected projects
http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam

the streaming suitcase
http://www.streamingsuitcase.com

r a d i o q u a l i a
http://www.radioqualia.net

Free as in 'media'
email : adam at xs4all.nl
mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile)


From andy at milonic.com  Mon Mar  6 22:30:27 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:30:27 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Modify MP3 Files From Shell
References: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi All,

Sorry about the off topic post but I'm having trouble finding anything that 
will work, thought one of you guys might have a quick answer to my question.

Anyway, I'm looking for a tool that will add fade in and fade out to a .mp3 
file. The problem is that this needs to be a Linux command line utility 
either Open Source or propriatry. I'd like to add a nice fade in and fade 
out to some 30 second sound snippets, anybody?

Your help will be most appreciated.

Thanks very much,
Andy 



From engineering at owltechnology.net  Tue Mar  7 00:05:05 2006
From: engineering at owltechnology.net (engineering at owltechnology.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:05:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Icecast] Modify MP3 Files From Shell
In-Reply-To: <02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
	<02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <45953.146.18.173.73.1141689905.squirrel@www.radioradio.us>

Have you tried SOX, sox.sourceforge.net ?


> Hi All,
>
> Sorry about the off topic post but I'm having trouble finding anything
> that
> will work, thought one of you guys might have a quick answer to my
> question.
>
> Anyway, I'm looking for a tool that will add fade in and fade out to a
> .mp3
> file. The problem is that this needs to be a Linux command line utility
> either Open Source or propriatry. I'd like to add a nice fade in and fade
> out to some 30 second sound snippets, anybody?
>
> Your help will be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Andy
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>



From adam at xs4all.nl  Tue Mar  7 03:03:38 2006
From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 04:03:38 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Modify MP3 Files From Shell
In-Reply-To: <02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
	<02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <20060307030338.GB39592@xs4all.nl>

hey Andy,

you could use sox

something like
sox  old.mp3 new.mp3 fade t 3 0 0

you need to first compile sox with libmad or libmp3lame

http://sox.sourceforge.net/

adam



..on Mon, Mar 06, 
2006 at 10:30:27PM -0000, Andy Woolley wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Sorry about the off topic post but I'm having trouble finding anything that 
> will work, thought one of you guys might have a quick answer to my question.
> 
> Anyway, I'm looking for a tool that will add fade in and fade out to a .mp3 
> file. The problem is that this needs to be a Linux command line utility 
> either Open Source or propriatry. I'd like to add a nice fade in and fade 
> out to some 30 second sound snippets, anybody?
> 
> Your help will be most appreciated.
> 
> Thanks very much,
> Andy 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 



Adam Hyde
~/.nl

selected projects
http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam

the streaming suitcase
http://www.streamingsuitcase.com

r a d i o q u a l i a
http://www.radioqualia.net

Free as in 'media'
email : adam at xs4all.nl
mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile)


From andy at milonic.com  Tue Mar  7 11:49:48 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 11:49:48 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Modify MP3 Files From Shell
References: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
	<02ec01c6416d$934c9c30$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<20060307030338.GB39592@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <0e4401c641dd$3c91be00$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi Folks,

Yes, I'm now using Sox and it's fantastic, it's just what I needed.

Thanks very much you lot, you are a great community :-))

I owe you one.

Cheers,
Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "adam" <adam at xs4all.nl>
To: "Andy Woolley" <andy at milonic.com>
Cc: "icecast" <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Modify MP3 Files From Shell


> hey Andy,
>
> you could use sox
>
> something like
> sox  old.mp3 new.mp3 fade t 3 0 0
>
> you need to first compile sox with libmad or libmp3lame
>
> http://sox.sourceforge.net/
>
> adam
>
>
>
> ..on Mon, Mar 06,
> 2006 at 10:30:27PM -0000, Andy Woolley wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Sorry about the off topic post but I'm having trouble finding anything 
>> that
>> will work, thought one of you guys might have a quick answer to my 
>> question.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm looking for a tool that will add fade in and fade out to a 
>> .mp3
>> file. The problem is that this needs to be a Linux command line utility
>> either Open Source or propriatry. I'd like to add a nice fade in and fade
>> out to some 30 second sound snippets, anybody?
>>
>> Your help will be most appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Andy
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
> -- 
>
>
>
> Adam Hyde
> ~/.nl
>
> selected projects
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam
>
> the streaming suitcase
> http://www.streamingsuitcase.com
>
> r a d i o q u a l i a
> http://www.radioqualia.net
>
> Free as in 'media'
> email : adam at xs4all.nl
> mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile) 



From j at v2v.cc  Mon Mar 13 04:27:04 2006
From: j at v2v.cc (j at v2v.cc)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:27:04 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] setting up yp server
In-Reply-To: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
References: <20060306110445.GE50353@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1142224024.15948.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

hi adam,

you can find the source for the yp cgi at 
http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/icecast2yp/

you have to configure the db settings in src/yp_db.h before compiling.

j



From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Mar 16 21:44:44 2006
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:44:44 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] VGA Capture
Message-ID: <4419DC4C.2040601@personnelware.com>

Hey lists,

This is somewhat OT, but just a little.

I want to capture live (5 fps?) 1024x768 VGA and make mpeg or something I can 
stream over the net.

The application is this:  Developer meetings and conferences.  "all" speakers 
bring their laptops and hook up to the 1024x768 projector.  I want to broadcast 
that over the net.  (I may point a web cam at the presenter too and have that as 
a 2nd feed.)  I do not want to load anything on their laptop.  I 'know' it is 
easy, cheaper, and better in some ways, and it may even happen in some 
instances, but for the most part, I never want to even ask a speaker to do it. 
There just isn't enough time to to make sure it works, etc.  A hardware based 
solution is much more ... good.

The plan is to have a laptop or small PC sitting under the projector that 
somehow gets the same VGA as the projector.  Some projectors have a VGA out, not 
sure how standard that is.  I can deal with an external device that uses USB or 
Ethernet, or a pci/pcmica card in the box that will do the encoding.

I found this: https://ssl.epiphan.com/order/order.php?pid=1 - that will do what 
I need, but $400 is a bit much (I need about 5 or 10 for conferences that have 
multiple sessions going at the same time.)  I am kinda doing this on my own - 
the first step is to get one for the local user group meeting I attend.  If that 
works out, then I may get some more and loan/rent them out.  Thus the desire to 
find a cheaper solution.

I found things relating to KVM over IP, can't figure out if these will allow me 
to capture/stream.

http://www.zantech.com.au/peppercon/eric-express/  $100

aten CN-6000
http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pcid=20050103163647001&psid=20050107105033001&pid=20050224141359008
$400

http://okvm.sourceforge.net/kvmoverip.html - pretty sure that requires a pci 
card in the box generating the video (so no good.)

Thanks for taking the time to read this - any pointers welcome.

Carl K


From adam at xs4all.nl  Thu Mar 16 23:48:58 2006
From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:48:58 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] VGA Capture
In-Reply-To: <4419DC4C.2040601@personnelware.com>
References: <4419DC4C.2040601@personnelware.com>
Message-ID: <20060316234858.GD44918@xs4all.nl>

i am a bit confused to what you want...do you mean you want a scan converter?

you can plug a vga out of the laptops to the scan converter, take another vga from the scan converter to a projector, and a svhs or composite out from the scan 
converter to the encoding machine

you can buy them for about 200 USD or less

or do i misunderstand your question?

adam



..on Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:44:44PM -0600, Carl Karsten wrote:
> Hey lists,
> 
> This is somewhat OT, but just a little.
> 
> I want to capture live (5 fps?) 1024x768 VGA and make mpeg or something I 
> can stream over the net.
> 
> The application is this:  Developer meetings and conferences.  "all" 
> speakers bring their laptops and hook up to the 1024x768 projector.  I want 
> to broadcast that over the net.  (I may point a web cam at the presenter 
> too and have that as a 2nd feed.)  I do not want to load anything on their 
> laptop.  I 'know' it is easy, cheaper, and better in some ways, and it may 
> even happen in some instances, but for the most part, I never want to even 
> ask a speaker to do it. There just isn't enough time to to make sure it 
> works, etc.  A hardware based solution is much more ... good.
> 
> The plan is to have a laptop or small PC sitting under the projector that 
> somehow gets the same VGA as the projector.  Some projectors have a VGA 
> out, not sure how standard that is.  I can deal with an external device 
> that uses USB or Ethernet, or a pci/pcmica card in the box that will do the 
> encoding.
> 
> I found this: https://ssl.epiphan.com/order/order.php?pid=1 - that will do 
> what I need, but $400 is a bit much (I need about 5 or 10 for conferences 
> that have multiple sessions going at the same time.)  I am kinda doing this 
> on my own - the first step is to get one for the local user group meeting I 
> attend.  If that works out, then I may get some more and loan/rent them 
> out.  Thus the desire to find a cheaper solution.
> 
> I found things relating to KVM over IP, can't figure out if these will 
> allow me to capture/stream.
> 
> http://www.zantech.com.au/peppercon/eric-express/  $100
> 
> aten CN-6000
> http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pcid=20050103163647001&psid=20050107105033001&pid=20050224141359008
> $400
> 
> http://okvm.sourceforge.net/kvmoverip.html - pretty sure that requires a 
> pci card in the box generating the video (so no good.)
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to read this - any pointers welcome.
> 
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 


From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Mar 17 02:56:02 2006
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:56:02 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] VGA Capture
In-Reply-To: <20060316234858.GD44918@xs4all.nl>
References: <4419DC4C.2040601@personnelware.com>
	<20060316234858.GD44918@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <441A2542.1030201@personnelware.com>

Adam,

First the disclaimer: I am new at this, and so I may not have 100% understanding 
of terms like svhs or composite.

That said, You are close, but svhs or composite isn't 1024x768 - it is 640x480 
or whatever this chart says: http://www.geocities.com/cplarosa/video/vidres.htm

I am not targeting any TV display - my target is other computers running 
win/mac/linux/whatever that can decompress streaming video and display it on a 
full blown monitor.  (I haven't figured out how much bandwidth someone will need 
for this.)

follow?

Carl



adam wrote:
> i am a bit confused to what you want...do you mean you want a scan converter?
> 
> you can plug a vga out of the laptops to the scan converter, take another vga from the scan converter to a projector, and a svhs or composite out from the scan 
> converter to the encoding machine
> 
> you can buy them for about 200 USD or less
> 
> or do i misunderstand your question?
> 
> adam
> 
> 
> 
> ..on Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:44:44PM -0600, Carl Karsten wrote:
>> Hey lists,
>>
>> This is somewhat OT, but just a little.
>>
>> I want to capture live (5 fps?) 1024x768 VGA and make mpeg or something I 
>> can stream over the net.
>>
>> The application is this:  Developer meetings and conferences.  "all" 
>> speakers bring their laptops and hook up to the 1024x768 projector.  I want 
>> to broadcast that over the net.  (I may point a web cam at the presenter 
>> too and have that as a 2nd feed.)  I do not want to load anything on their 
>> laptop.  I 'know' it is easy, cheaper, and better in some ways, and it may 
>> even happen in some instances, but for the most part, I never want to even 
>> ask a speaker to do it. There just isn't enough time to to make sure it 
>> works, etc.  A hardware based solution is much more ... good.
>>
>> The plan is to have a laptop or small PC sitting under the projector that 
>> somehow gets the same VGA as the projector.  Some projectors have a VGA 
>> out, not sure how standard that is.  I can deal with an external device 
>> that uses USB or Ethernet, or a pci/pcmica card in the box that will do the 
>> encoding.
>>
>> I found this: https://ssl.epiphan.com/order/order.php?pid=1 - that will do 
>> what I need, but $400 is a bit much (I need about 5 or 10 for conferences 
>> that have multiple sessions going at the same time.)  I am kinda doing this 
>> on my own - the first step is to get one for the local user group meeting I 
>> attend.  If that works out, then I may get some more and loan/rent them 
>> out.  Thus the desire to find a cheaper solution.
>>
>> I found things relating to KVM over IP, can't figure out if these will 
>> allow me to capture/stream.
>>
>> http://www.zantech.com.au/peppercon/eric-express/  $100
>>
>> aten CN-6000
>> http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pcid=20050103163647001&psid=20050107105033001&pid=20050224141359008
>> $400
>>
>> http://okvm.sourceforge.net/kvmoverip.html - pretty sure that requires a 
>> pci card in the box generating the video (so no good.)
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to read this - any pointers welcome.
>>
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 



From mail at romano2k.biz  Fri Mar 17 13:35:12 2006
From: mail at romano2k.biz (-)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:35:12 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Authentication problem
Message-ID: <441ABB10.8020509@romano2k.biz>

First time subscribing to such a mailing list, I'm impressed.

Hi everyone!

I have a box at home, running Debian, which I use to share connection, 
host a small website, mails... And I'm having fun trying some stuff. 
Icecast is the stuff I began to try yesterday. I used to use SHOUTcast, 
I can't bear it anymore, as Icecast rocks.

Everything works fine, except one thing : I'm now trying the 
Authentication thing.

I read the documentation page related to this function 
(http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.3.1/icecast2_listenerauth.html), 
and added some lines to my icecast.xml :

     <mount>
         <mount-name>/live.ogg</mount-name>
         <authentication type="htpasswd">
             <option name="filename" value="myauth"/>
             <option name="allow_duplicate_users" value="0"/>
         </authentication>
     </mount>

I then connect my source client and the mount point is created as it 
should be. I log in to the administration interface, and I click on the 
"Manage Authentication" link.

I try to create a user, and I get this message :

	"User add failed - check the icecast error log".

The error log is empty (loglevel 2).

It may a permission problem, I don't know.

Anyone could help ? :) Thanks for your help in advance!

Romano2K


From mhobbs812 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 18 18:38:05 2006
From: mhobbs812 at gmail.com (Michael Hobbs)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:38:05 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] <savefile> directive for Icecast2?
Message-ID: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Hope you can advise.

I am aware you can use the <savefile> feature of IceS2 to save a copy of
live streams. I have several sources for my Icecast server that are remote
and which I do not have access to the hard drive. Is there any way to save a
copy of the stream at the Icecast Server rather than the IceS2 source?

If it can't be done by the server itself, I know there are various tools for
recording live streams, has anyone had any experience with these? I would
ideally like it to be done automatically (i.e. without my intervention) as I
am not always available to make sure the broadcast is recorded.

Many thanks in advance,
Mike
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From mtms at autistici.org  Sat Mar 18 19:29:34 2006
From: mtms at autistici.org (mtms)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:29:34 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <savefile> directive for Icecast2?
In-Reply-To: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060318192934.GA20928@speedoflife.darktech.org>

On 18 Mar 2006, 18:38, Michael Hobbs <mhobbs812 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am aware you can use the <savefile> feature of IceS2 to save a copy of live
> streams. I have several sources for my Icecast server that are remote and which
> I do not have access to the hard drive. Is there any way to save a copy of the
> stream at the Icecast Server rather than the IceS2 source?
> 
> If it can't be done by the server itself, I know there are various tools for
> recording live streams, has anyone had any experience with these?

Under linux I use streamripper
http://streamripper.sourceforge.net

Salut,

-- 
 <@,@>  Radio Dissident
 [`-']  Frattaglie rock ed altre perversioni
 -"-"-  http://radiodissident.blogspot.com
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From paranoid at dds.nl  Sat Mar 18 20:57:48 2006
From: paranoid at dds.nl (paranoid)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:57:48 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Icecast] <savefile> directive for Icecast2?
In-Reply-To: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603182152360.16484@swan>


On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Michael Hobbs wrote:

> If it can't be done by the server itself, I know there are various tools for
> recording live streams, has anyone had any experience with these? I would
> ideally like it to be done automatically (i.e. without my intervention) as I
> am not always available to make sure the broadcast is recorded.

When you are using the Icecast2 server, it can be done by the server 
itself using the dump-file tag for pre-defined mount points. More info is 
in the doc files:

http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.3.1/icecast2_config_file.html#mount

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Frank


From adam at xs4all.nl  Sun Mar 19 09:35:47 2006
From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:35:47 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <savefile> directive for Icecast2?
In-Reply-To: <20060318192934.GA20928@speedoflife.darktech.org>
References: <107997eb0603181038l1c2d30n@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060318192934.GA20928@speedoflife.darktech.org>
Message-ID: <20060319093547.GC69176@xs4all.nl>

icecast 2.3.1 has <dumpfile> which i believe can do it:
http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.3.1/icecast2_config_file.html#mount


#dump-file
An optional value which will set the filename which will be a dump of the stream coming through on this mountpoint. 


i also use wget when necessary which will also do the job

adam





..on Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:29:34PM +0100, mtms wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2006, 18:38, Michael Hobbs <mhobbs812 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am aware you can use the <savefile> feature of IceS2 to save a copy of live
> > streams. I have several sources for my Icecast server that are remote and which
> > I do not have access to the hard drive. Is there any way to save a copy of the
> > stream at the Icecast Server rather than the IceS2 source?
> > 
> > If it can't be done by the server itself, I know there are various tools for
> > recording live streams, has anyone had any experience with these?
> 
> Under linux I use streamripper
> http://streamripper.sourceforge.net
> 
> Salut,
> 
> -- 
>  <@,@>  Radio Dissident
>  [`-']  Frattaglie rock ed altre perversioni
>  -"-"-  http://radiodissident.blogspot.com



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-- 



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~/.nl

selected projects
http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam

the streaming suitcase
http://www.streamingsuitcase.com

r a d i o q u a l i a
http://www.radioqualia.net

Free as in 'media'
email : adam at xs4all.nl
mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile)


From ggarrett at nidaho.net  Wed Mar 22 15:38:42 2006
From: ggarrett at nidaho.net (Gary Garrett)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:38:42 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Compile Error
Message-ID: <44216F82.4070909@nidaho.net>

I am getting the following Make error when compiling Icecast:
cannot find the library /usr/lib/libxml2.la        It appears libxml2 is 
installed correctly as other libxml2 files are there.
Anyone see this before?


From _+icecast at sucs.org  Wed Mar 22 15:49:12 2006
From: _+icecast at sucs.org (_+icecast at sucs.org)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Compile Error
In-Reply-To: <44216F82.4070909@nidaho.net>
References: <44216F82.4070909@nidaho.net>
Message-ID: <442171F8.3080000@SUCS.ORG>

Gary Garrett wrote:
> I am getting the following Make error when compiling Icecast:
> cannot find the library /usr/lib/libxml2.la        It appears libxml2 is 
> installed correctly as other libxml2 files are there.
> Anyone see this before?

You probably don't have the libxml development packages for your 
distribution, try installing them and trying again.


From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Thu Mar 23 07:32:28 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:32:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
Message-ID: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?

I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
but not as a streamed media.

Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
streaming?

Thank you very much,
Ivan
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From adam at xs4all.nl  Thu Mar 23 08:22:59 2006
From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:22:59 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060323082259.GA65756@xs4all.nl>

did you line to it with an m3u file?


adam

..on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:32:28AM +0100, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
> figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
> Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?
> 
> I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
> http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
> but not as a streamed media.
> 
> Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
> iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
> Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
> streaming?
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Ivan

> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


-- 



Adam Hyde
~/.nl

selected projects
http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam

the streaming suitcase
http://www.streamingsuitcase.com

r a d i o q u a l i a
http://www.radioqualia.net

Free as in 'media'
email : adam at xs4all.nl
mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile)


From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Thu Mar 23 08:34:52 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:34:52 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <20060323082259.GA65756@xs4all.nl>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060323082259.GA65756@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <39d8a2230603230034s663035d9m5c0686645330ab22@mail.gmail.com>

Is it a play-list file? Do you mean that this is the solution?

On 3/23/06, adam <adam at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> did you line to it with an m3u file?
>
>
> adam
>
> ..on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:32:28AM +0100, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
> > figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
> > Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?
> >
> > I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
> > http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
> > but not as a streamed media.
> >
> > Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
> > iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
> > Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
> > streaming?
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Ivan
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Adam Hyde
> ~/.nl
>
> selected projects
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam
>
> the streaming suitcase
> http://www.streamingsuitcase.com
>
> r a d i o q u a l i a
> http://www.radioqualia.net
>
> Free as in 'media'
> email : adam at xs4all.nl
> mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile)
>
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From hostmaster at xenterra.net  Sat Mar 25 03:25:33 2006
From: hostmaster at xenterra.net (Robert Muchnick)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:25:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>

Icecast will try to fill a buffer before delivering the stream. Is your 
file large enough to fill the buffer? In my recent test, a small file gets 
downloaded (filling up the buffer) before the stream starts.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
> figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
> Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?
>
> I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
> http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
> but not as a streamed media.
>
> Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
> iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
> Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
> streaming?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Ivan
>

Robert Muchnick
Xenterra.net
720-276-7917
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From devin at moonglade.com  Sat Mar 25 18:34:00 2006
From: devin at moonglade.com (Devin Campbell)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:34:00 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] YP not getting server info after upgrade
Message-ID: <44258D18.2040001@moonglade.com>

I just recently did an upgrade from Icecast 2.3.0 to 2.3.1 and at the 
same time realized I was still running Ices 2.0-Beta2 so I upgraded it 
to 2.0.1.  Before the upgrade I was being listed in the Xiph directory 
just as expected... Now, I'm listed but, this is me:
http://dir.xiph.org/index.php?sgenre=&stype=&search=unspecified+name

You'll notice there's no data other than the current song and mount point.

Is there some subtle settings change that I've overlooked for this 
upgrade?  The Ices stream is obviously marked public... it is getting 
published.  The Icecast admin page shows all the data that I'd be 
expecting to see in the directory listing.

I run Ices on a private network which connects to a local Icecast 
server. The public Icecast server then connects as a relay to the 
private Icecast server on demand.

Could this be a curl problem?  I'm using libcurl 7.15.0.  I don't think 
so, as the YP server is getting the data that's sent (see the log 
below).  Does Icecast use libxml to read the data?  I compiled with 
libxml2 2.6.22.

I don't see any problems in the log, here's a relevant snippet:

error.log
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
listeners (0)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node public (1)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
server_name (Unspecified name)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
server_description (Unspecified description)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node genre 
(various)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
server_type (application/ogg)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node subtype 
(vorbis)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
on_demand (1)
[2006-03-19  00:00:40] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node 
max_listeners (unlimited)
[2006-03-19  00:01:26] DBUG yp/send_to_yp YP touch at 
http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi succeeded


From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Sat Mar 25 21:28:18 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:28:18 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
Message-ID: <39d8a2230603251328y1aaffd11l9e3f685101729784@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Maybe I do something completely wrong and I make some trivial mistakes but
the static streaming doesn't work for me.
I describe my setup.

Thanks,
Ivan

- I try to reach the following URLs but neither of them worked:
http://my.server.hu/try.mp3
http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u
http://my.server.hu/list.m3u

- The /usr/share/icecast2/web directory contains the following files:
try.mp3
list.m3u

- The list.m3u contains:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,Try
try.mp3

- The /etc/icecast2/icecast.xml
<icecast>
    <limits>
        <clients>100</clients>
        <sources>2</sources>
        <threadpool>5</threadpool>
        <queue-size>102400</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
        <!-- If enabled, this will provide a burst of data when a client
             first connects, thereby significantly reducing the startup
             time for listeners that do substantial buffering. However,
             it also significantly increases latency between the source
             client and listening client.  For low-latency setups, you
             might want to disable this. -->
        <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
        <!-- same as burst-on-connect, but this allows for being more
             specific on how much to burst. Most people won't need to
             change from the default 64k. Applies to all mountpoints  -->
        <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
        <source-password>pwd</source-password>
        <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
        <relay-password>pwd</relay-password>

        <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
        <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
        <admin-password>pwd</admin-password>
    </authentication>

    <!-- Uncomment this if you want directory listings -->
    <!--
    <directory>
        <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
        <yp-url>http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
    </directory>
    <directory>
        <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
        <yp-url>http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
    </directory>
     -->

    <!-- This is the hostname other people will use to connect to your
server.
    It affects mainly the urls generated by Icecast for playlists and yp
    listings. -->
    <hostname>my.server.hu</hostname>

    <!-- You can use these two if you only want a single listener -->
    <!--<port>8000</port> -->
    <!--<bind-address>127.0.0.1</bind-address>-->

    <!-- You may have multiple <listener> elements -->
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8000</port>
        <!-- <bind-address>127.0.0.1</bind-address> -->
    </listen-socket>
    <!--
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8001</port>
    </listen-socket>
    -->

    <!--<master-server>127.0.0.1</master-server>-->
    <!--<master-server-port>8001</master-server-port>-->
    <!--<master-update-interval>120</master-update-interval>-->
    <!--<master-password>pwd</master-password>-->
    <!--
    <relay>
        <server>127.0.0.1</server>
        <port>8001</port>
        <mount>/example.ogg</mount>
        <local-mount>/different.ogg</local-mount>

        <relay-shoutcast-metadata>0</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
    </relay>
    -->

    <!-- Only define a <mount> section if you want to use advanced options,
         like alternative usernames or passwords
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/try.mp3</mount-name>

        <username>othersource</username>
        <password>hackmemore</password>

        <max-listeners>1</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.ogg</dump-file>
        <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <fallback-mount>/example2.ogg</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
        <hidden>1</hidden>
        <no-yp>1</no-yp>
        <authentication type="htpasswd">
                <option name="filename" value="myauth"/>
                <option name="allow_duplicate_users" value="0"/>
        </authentication>
    </mount>
    -->

    <fileserve>1</fileserve>

    <!-- set the mountpoint for a shoutcast source to use, the default if
not
         specified is /stream but you can change it here if an alternative
is
         wanted or an extension is required
    <shoutcast-mount>/live.nsv</shoutcast-mount>
    -->

    <paths>
                <!-- basedir is only used if chroot is enabled -->
        <basedir>/usr/share/icecast2</basedir>

        <!-- Note that if <chroot> is turned on below, these paths must both
             be relative to the new root, not the original root -->
        <logdir>/var/log/icecast2</logdir>
        <webroot>/usr/share/icecast2/web</webroot>
        <adminroot>/usr/share/icecast2/admin</adminroot>
        <!-- <pidfile>/usr/share/icecast2/icecast.pid</pidfile> -->

        <!-- Aliases: treat requests for 'source' path as being for 'dest'
path
             May be made specific to a port or bound address using the
"port"
             and "bind-address" attributes.
          -->
        <!--
        <alias source="/foo" dest="/bar"/>
          -->
        <!-- Aliases: can also be used for simple redirections as well,
             this example will redirect all requests for http://server:port/to
             the status page
          -->
        <alias source="/" dest="/status.xsl"/>
    </paths>

    <logging>
        <accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
        <errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
        <!-- <playlistlog>playlist.log</playlistlog> -->
        <loglevel>4</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
    </logging>

    <security>
        <chroot>0</chroot>
        <!--
        <changeowner>
            <user>nobody</user>
            <group>nogroup</group>
        </changeowner>
        -->
    </security>
</icecast>


On 3/25/06, Robert Muchnick <hostmaster at xenterra.net> wrote:
>
> Icecast will try to fill a buffer before delivering the stream. Is your
> file large enough to fill the buffer? In my recent test, a small file gets
> downloaded (filling up the buffer) before the stream starts.
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
> > figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
> > Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?
> >
> > I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
> > http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
> > but not as a streamed media.
> >
> > Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
> > iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
> > Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
> > streaming?
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Ivan
> >
>
> Robert Muchnick
> Xenterra.net
> 720-276-7917
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
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From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Sat Mar 25 21:41:28 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:41:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
Message-ID: <39d8a2230603251341y4562c056rca7004404e194218@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The file I use is quite big. 6 Mbytes.

Ivan

On 3/25/06, Robert Muchnick <hostmaster at xenterra.net> wrote:
>
> Icecast will try to fill a buffer before delivering the stream. Is your
> file large enough to fill the buffer? In my recent test, a small file gets
> downloaded (filling up the buffer) before the stream starts.
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed the Icecast2 on my Ubuntu Linux and I was not able to
> > figure out how I could stream static mp3 files.
> > Can anybody help me? What should I do to do this?
> >
> > I put the mp3 file in the webroot and I tried to retrieve it with the "
> > http://host:port/try.mp3" URL but I could only download it (as a whole)
> > but not as a streamed media.
> >
> > Do I have to convert the mp3 to another streaming format? Or is my
> > iceceast.xml wrong? Or do I need ices as well?
> > Can anybody send me an example icecast.xml file that enables static file
> > streaming?
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Ivan
> >
>
> Robert Muchnick
> Xenterra.net
> 720-276-7917
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
>
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From hostmaster at xenterra.net  Sat Mar 25 22:42:27 2006
From: hostmaster at xenterra.net (Robert Muchnick)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:42:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <39d8a2230603251328y1aaffd11l9e3f685101729784@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com> 
	<Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
	<39d8a2230603251328y1aaffd11l9e3f685101729784@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603251533180.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>

Here's the way we do it:

http://www.domainname.com:8000/static/userfiles/myfile.mp3

The path part /static/ is a link that points from the icecast 
admin-doc-web area (usually /usr/local/share/icecast on Linux) back to a 
user file area where we want to keep the audio files.

The key is you have to get port 8000, the <listen-socket> in your config, 
or whatever port you have designated, otherwise icecast is never invoked.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Maybe I do something completely wrong and I make some trivial mistakes but
> the static streaming doesn't work for me.
> I describe my setup.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan
>
> - I try to reach the following URLs but neither of them worked:
> http://my.server.hu/try.mp3
> http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u
> http://my.server.hu/list.m3u

<< >>

Robert Muchnick
Xenterra.net
720-276-7917


From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 06:19:29 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:19:29 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0603251533180.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62.0603242022050.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
	<39d8a2230603251328y1aaffd11l9e3f685101729784@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.62.0603251533180.21514@ns1.xenterra.net>
Message-ID: <39d8a2230603252219v280680e0k11ded3cb861ac90e@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry! The links I tried are:

http://my.server.hu:8000/try.mp3 <http://my.server.hu/try.mp3>
http://my.server.hu
<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u><http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>
:8000 <http://my.server.hu/try.mp3>/try.mp3.m3u<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>
http://my.server.hu <http://my.server.hu/list.m3u><http://my.server.hu/list.m3u>
:8000 <http://my.server.hu/try.mp3>/list.m3u <http://my.server.hu/list.m3u>

I left out the port number from my former letter.

Ivan



On 3/26/06, Robert Muchnick <hostmaster at xenterra.net> wrote:
>
> Here's the way we do it:
>
> http://www.domainname.com:8000/static/userfiles/myfile.mp3
>
> The path part /static/ is a link that points from the icecast
> admin-doc-web area (usually /usr/local/share/icecast on Linux) back to a
> user file area where we want to keep the audio files.
>
> The key is you have to get port 8000, the <listen-socket> in your config,
> or whatever port you have designated, otherwise icecast is never invoked.
>
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Maybe I do something completely wrong and I make some trivial mistakes
> but
> > the static streaming doesn't work for me.
> > I describe my setup.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ivan
> >
> > - I try to reach the following URLs but neither of them worked:
> > http://my.server.hu/try.mp3
> > http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u
> > http://my.server.hu/list.m3u
>
> << >>
>
> Robert Muchnick
> Xenterra.net
> 720-276-7917
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sun Mar 26 14:52:04 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:52:04 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
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At 12:19 AM 3/26/2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
>Sorry! The links I tried are:
>
><http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>http://my.server.hu<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3> 
>:8000<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>/try.mp3.m3u
that is the proper form (obviously without the space after the .hu), 
but more importantly, for this to work you need to make sure you've 
set <hostname> to my.server.hu in your icecast config.

note that the file try.mp3.m3u does not need (and should not) to 
exist on your icecast server, it is automatically generated by 
icecast itself.  If icecast gets a request for 
http://blah:port/whatever.mp3.m3u, icecast will serve up a m3u file 
containing :

http://<hostname>:<listenport>/whatever.mp3

where <hostname> and <listenport> are defined in the config file.  I 
thought all this was mentioned in the docs...

also, it should be noted that m3u is not just appropriate for mp3 
files, it's a general (and very simple) playlist format that contain 
any media types supported by the player using to open it..


oddsock 




From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sun Mar 26 16:01:17 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
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At 08:52 AM 3/26/2006, oddsock wrote:
>At 12:19 AM 3/26/2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
>>Sorry! The links I tried are:
>>
>><http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>http://my.server.hu<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3> 
>>:8000<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>/try.mp3.m3u

http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u   <-- THAT is the proper form..

>that is the proper form (obviously without the space after the .hu), 
>but more importantly, for this to work you need to make sure you've 
>set <hostname> to my.server.hu in your icecast config.
>
>note that the file try.mp3.m3u does not need (and should not) to 
>exist on your icecast server, it is automatically generated by 
>icecast itself.  If icecast gets a request for 
>http://blah:port/whatever.mp3.m3u, icecast will serve up a m3u file 
>containing :
>
>http://<hostname>:<listenport>/whatever.mp3
>
>where <hostname> and <listenport> are defined in the config file.  I 
>thought all this was mentioned in the docs...
>
>also, it should be noted that m3u is not just appropriate for mp3 
>files, it's a general (and very simple) playlist format that contain 
>any media types supported by the player using to open it..
>
>
>oddsock
>
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From kc0ccb at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 27 10:43:36 2006
From: kc0ccb at hotmail.com (Todd Rittel)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:43:36 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] icecast not showing up in the stream directory..
Message-ID: <BAY114-DAV10C69EFA651BC9DBAC02FA95D20@phx.gbl>

hey there everybody,   

   got some problems on icecast v 2.3.1 i'm trying to get it to upload the server into to the online directory on icecast... havent checked on audiorealm.com yet, but will do that sometime be4 i hear back from one of you..   

i've tryed installing version 2.2 and 2.3 also with no luck.   

thanks in advance.. talk at ya later..     


73's and 88's DE TODD KC?CCB DN84FK 

ICQ #: 71473037 

NET: http://www.webspawner.com/users/hamradio/index.html 

MYSPACE : http://www.myspace.com/kc0ccb  
  
TEMP WEB SERVER: http://209.159.208.18:8000/stream.m3u
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From ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com  Mon Mar 27 11:00:27 2006
From: ivan.zahoranszky at gmail.com (Ivan Zahoranszky)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:27 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] static file streaming
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060326100032.056387e0@oddsock.org>
References: <39d8a2230603222332h45f8a12bn5acd62f74c2d6622@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

Thanks for the help. It was very useful to know about this m3u thing. It
works now. The root of the problem was that my WinAmp didn't work correctly
(maybe I misconfigure something) :) . Another mp3 player buffered the stream
correctly.

Ivan



On 3/26/06, oddsock <oddsock at oddsock.org > wrote:
>
> At 08:52 AM 3/26/2006, oddsock wrote:
> >At 12:19 AM 3/26/2006, Ivan Zahoranszky wrote:
> >>Sorry! The links I tried are:
> >>
> >><http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>http://my.server.hu<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3
> >
> >>:8000<http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u>/try.mp3.m3u
>
> http://my.server.hu/try.mp3.m3u    <-- THAT is the proper form..
>
> >that is the proper form (obviously without the space after the .hu),
> >but more importantly, for this to work you need to make sure you've
> >set <hostname> to my.server.hu in your icecast config.
> >
> >note that the file try.mp3.m3u does not need (and should not) to
> >exist on your icecast server, it is automatically generated by
> >icecast itself.  If icecast gets a request for
> >http://blah:port/whatever.mp3.m3u, icecast will serve up a m3u file
> >containing :
> >
> >http://<hostname>:<listenport>/whatever.mp3
> >
> >where <hostname> and <listenport> are defined in the config file.  I
> >thought all this was mentioned in the docs...
> >
> >also, it should be noted that m3u is not just appropriate for mp3
> >files, it's a general (and very simple) playlist format that contain
> >any media types supported by the player using to open it..
> >
> >
> >oddsock
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Icecast mailing list
> >Icecast at xiph.org
> >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
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From giles at xiph.org  Tue Mar 28 01:59:56 2006
From: giles at xiph.org (Ralph Giles)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:59:56 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] [kg228@lycos.com: I need some help with icecast and web]
Message-ID: <20060328015956.GA6352@ghostscript.com>

Forwarding to the public list as requested...

----- Forwarded message from kevin Gilbert <kg228 at lycos.com> -----

From: kevin Gilbert <kg228 at lycos.com>
Subject: I need some help with icecast and web

I was having trouble finding the right e-amil address to ask my question I hope this is the right place if not please re direct this to them.

My question is I am launching a onlne radio station and the way I am doing it is where people that want to listen can only listen by clicking the link on my web page. would this software allow me to stream on my sight only I do not want it listed on any free listen sites for my station is only for members and they require a monthly fee to continue to listen.

Is ice cast right for me or do you know what I need to streem on my page securely.

thank you for your time

----- End forwarded message -----


From hostmaster at xenterra.net  Tue Mar 28 02:25:15 2006
From: hostmaster at xenterra.net (Robert Muchnick)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:25:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Icecast] [kg228@lycos.com: I need some help with icecast and web]
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References: <20060328015956.GA6352@ghostscript.com>
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006, Ralph Giles wrote:

> Forwarding to the public list as requested...
>
> ----- Forwarded message from kevin Gilbert <kg228 at lycos.com> -----
>
> From: kevin Gilbert <kg228 at lycos.com>
> Subject: I need some help with icecast and web
>
> I was having trouble finding the right e-amil address to ask my question 
> I hope this is the right place if not please re direct this to them.
>
> My question is I am launching a onlne radio station and the way I am 
> doing it is where people that want to listen can only listen by clicking 
> the link on my web page.

That is trivial to set up. You can see that on my company's site
http://www.metaflash-direct.com or a Shoutcast-enabled site I maintain for 
a client (he's moving to Icecast shortly at my insistence :-)), 
http://www.krightsradio.com.

> would this software allow me to stream on my 
> sight only I do not want it listed on any free listen sites

With Icecast, you can turn off "Yellow Pages" publication so it's not 
listed.

> for my 
> station is only for members and they require a monthly fee to continue 
> to listen.

Icecast provides for password protected listener access.

> Is ice cast right for me or do you know what I need to streem on my page 
> securely.
>
> thank you for your time

You would need a programmed Web interface running against a database and 
merchant account to set up online subscriptions and establish the password 
protection. If you cannot do this yourself, you'll need to hire a 
programmer to do this for you.

> ----- End forwarded message -----


Robert Muchnick
Xenterra.net
720-276-7917


From peter at theneb.co.uk  Tue Mar 28 22:29:25 2006
From: peter at theneb.co.uk (Peter Brooks)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:29:25 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Website embedded player
Message-ID: <ae46fb3d0603281429p74073a83m23749dee6994c39@mail.gmail.com>

I've started using 'Flash MP3 Player' (
http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Flash_MP3_Player) to stream a radio's
station's inside a webpage, it works great except for there are a few
versions of flash which are incompatible. Currently found it doesn't with IE
& Flash 6, so I've used some javascript to filter those users out. But could
people please try the page below and see if it streams for them. If it fails
then please contact me telling me your OS, Browser & Flash Version.

http://kube.resnet.keele.ac.uk/mp3/
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From r.meechan at wilsonandgarden.com  Fri Mar  3 16:31:58 2006
From: r.meechan at wilsonandgarden.com (Ricardo Meechan)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:31:58 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Stream fallbacks/spillovers/splashing
Message-ID: <B85096DECD1B47438D08699F1B04C814087FB0@server03.wilsonandgarden.com>

The fallback feature works perfectly for us. I don't see anything that
would be considered a bug.

We have 3 streams, /stream /mp3 /live

/stream always fallsback to /live
/live always fallsback to /mp3
/mp3 is always playing random mp3's from the collection (always on)

People listen to the stream using /stream
If a dj connects to /live then the people listening to /stream will hear
the dj. When he disconnects they automatically fallback to /mp3.

One of the best features that icecast has to offer (along with relay
ondemand)



Kind regards.
Rico.






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-----Original Message-----

From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On
Behalf Of Karl Heyes
Sent: 03 March 2006 3:56 PM
To: Geoff Shang
Cc: icecast at xiph.org; Dan Regalia
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Stream fallbacks/spillovers/splashing

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Dan Regalia wrote:
> 
>> My assumption is that the Fallback-override should only pertain to 
>> the mountpoint in which it is contained, and not the entire server.

the override will take back listeners from the stream that the
fallback-mount refers to (or some fallback of that).

> 
> You have found what I consider to be a bug in Icecast, though there 
> seems to be no willingness to fix this.

You're the only one that has said you consider it a bug.
...
> I filed this as a bug in April last year 
> (http://trac.xiph.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/642).  I even suggested 
> how this might be fixed.  You'll notice the ticket has been closed.
> Whilst it's possible to work around the bug, it's clunky in my opinion

> and Icecast doesn't act in a way a reasonable person would expect it 
> to in this situation.

Believe me, the approached you suggested is not as trivial as you may
think. Feel free to give a compelling case for why the on-demand relay
approach is 'Clunky' over the 'maintain fallback lists for each listener
in the server', don't forget about situations other than Dan's where
these lists may be triggered.  I'd rather have a tag in the <mount> that
says the listeners dropping back to the fallback-mount need to be
isolated and that creates a hidden on-demand relay automatically.

karl.

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From erik at plastic-idolatry.com  Fri Mar  3 17:34:00 2006
From: erik at plastic-idolatry.com (Erik Osheim)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:34:00 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] mpd supports icecast
Message-ID: <20060303172649.GA14591@cage.plastic-idolatry.com>

Hey,

The current version of the music-player daemon supports sending output
to an icecast server. You should list it on your supported sources
list.

-- Erik
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From rosamundheathcote at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Mar  5 20:24:33 2006
From: rosamundheathcote at yahoo.co.uk (Rosamund Heathcote)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 20:24:33 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Starting up...
Message-ID: <000001c64092$caa8a290$0502a8c0@roz>

Hi, I really want to stream my own radio show on shoutcast but I am not
very clued up on how I should go about this.I have so far downloaded the
Windows Setup from your web page but that's as far as I've got.I
understand if you are busy, but if you could find a minute just to guide
me through what I Should do I'd be eternally grateful.thanks Roz
Heathcote
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From erik at plastic-idolatry.com  Wed Mar  8 04:27:17 2006
From: erik at plastic-idolatry.com (Erik Osheim)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:27:17 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] mpd supports icecast
Message-ID: <20060303172649.GA14591@cage.plastic-idolatry.com>

Hey,

The current version of the music-player daemon supports sending output
to an icecast server. You should list it on your supported sources
list.

-- Erik
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From manasa at tayanasoft.com  Thu Mar 23 04:30:57 2006
From: manasa at tayanasoft.com (Manasa)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:30:57 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast Problems
Message-ID: <004b01bf94e3$9e8d7160$3003000a@hobbit.rocklines.oyeindia.com>

Hello Sir/Mam,

I installed your product icecast-2.3.1 for my machine and set the port as
3000. The same machine also contains quicktime. I started icecast server
usng the command
icecast -c pathof icecast.xml
When i tried the link icy://serverip:3000/song.mp3 from the quicktime
player, it started playing the song. The whole song got streamed properly
but when i stopped the icecast server and gave the link as
http://serverip:3000/song.mp3 , the song started playing, but it shouldn't
have played it as the server was not running. But when i tried
icy://serverip:3000/song.mp3  link, the song didnot get played.

Can you tell me the reason for this.


Thanks
-Manasa