From carlos at interbentley.com  Sun Jan  1 01:00:09 2006
From: carlos at interbentley.com (Carlos Hernandez de T)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:00:09 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Re: new to this
In-Reply-To: <ef740c590512301048n7e3af4cdtbe6b9b7db012018c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef740c590512301048n7e3af4cdtbe6b9b7db012018c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef740c590512311700w580470kb5d8699896188219@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
> I'm new to icecast, and I haven't quite found out  my way through the
> software =S do you think you could show me how this works? I'm really
> interested in broadcasting my own programme, I've got loads of material
> already, haha.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Carlos Hern?ndez de T
>



--
Carlos Hern?ndez de T
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From daniel at danielharrison.biz  Mon Jan  2 01:42:08 2006
From: daniel at danielharrison.biz (Daniel Harrison)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 01:42:08 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Securing /status.xsl Page
Message-ID: <20060102014214.9418CBE8EB@ns1.osuosl.org>

Hi there,

 

Does anyone know if it's possible to restrict access or not show the current
number of connected listeners on the status.xsl page?

Thanks

 

Daniel H

www.shoppingtelly.fm <http://www.shoppingtelly.fm/>  

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From andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk  Mon Jan  2 02:03:08 2006
From: andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk (Andy Baxter)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 02:03:08 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Securing /status.xsl Page
In-Reply-To: <20060102014214.9418CBE8EB@ns1.osuosl.org>
References: <20060102014214.9418CBE8EB@ns1.osuosl.org>
Message-ID: <200601020203.08843.andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk>

On Monday 02 Jan 2006 01:42, Daniel Harrison wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to restrict access or not show the
> current number of connected listeners on the status.xsl page?

You can edit the xml file which status.xsl is generated from. Just remove the 
section which refers to 'number of listeners'. You can also add things like 
bitrate etc.

The file should be in a directory described in the config file under 
'<webroot>...</webroot>'


From adnusielog4 at rmsud.esercito.difesa.it  Tue Jan  3 14:35:03 2006
From: adnusielog4 at rmsud.esercito.difesa.it (Luigi Palmiero)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:35:03 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Client with radio image
Message-ID: <000c01c61072$e432f9e0$efc6170a@pcpalmiero>

Hi all,
exists a client (like winamp, media player, etc.) capable to show the radio-image (logo) ?
My server is "Icecast 2".
Thanks
Luigi
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From brendan at xiph.org  Tue Jan  3 19:43:17 2006
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:43:17 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] [ANNOUNCE] libshout 2.2 released
Message-ID: <20060103194317.GD25428@zakopane.cs.ubc.ca>

libshout 2.2 has just been released. It's a fairly minor update:

* Speex support (this is why it's 2.2 instead of 2.1.1)
* Theora timing fix
* Double-free bug, response parser bug on failed login fixed.

It's at http://www.icecast.org/download.php


From daniel.quintana at vsti.cl  Wed Jan  4 02:49:37 2006
From: daniel.quintana at vsti.cl (Daniel Quintana C.)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:49:37 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Does the icecast 2.2 works with video streaming?
References: <20060103194317.GD25428@zakopane.cs.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <005501c610d9$825edb00$0300a8c0@kottoland>

Hello,
I need to transmit live video streaming, from my camera to the icecast
server.  I already try the live audio streaming with Darkice and icecast.
So i was wondering if the Icecast 2.2 could be used to be the video stream
server for my live video streaming-

By the way, What i need to make a live video streaming ? ( i have a capture
card and a dv camera).

Thanks a lot
Daniel




From wkvsf at users.sourceforge.net  Tue Jan  3 22:23:03 2006
From: wkvsf at users.sourceforge.net (William K. Volkman)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:23:03 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Does the icecast 2.2 works with video streaming?
In-Reply-To: <005501c610d9$825edb00$0300a8c0@kottoland>
References: <20060103194317.GD25428@zakopane.cs.ubc.ca>
	<005501c610d9$825edb00$0300a8c0@kottoland>
Message-ID: <1136326983.13352.9.camel@wkv1.zmaxsolutions.com>

On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 19:49, Daniel Quintana C. wrote:
> Hello,
> I need to transmit live video streaming, from my camera to the icecast
> server.  I already try the live audio streaming with Darkice and icecast.
> So i was wondering if the Icecast 2.2 could be used to be the video stream
> server for my live video streaming-
> 
> By the way, What i need to make a live video streaming ? ( i have a capture
> card and a dv camera).

I have done this using Icecast 2.3 server, ffmpeg2theora and
the oggfwd program.  The examples for ffmpeg2theora include
one for the conversion/broadcast of dv.

HTH,
William.




From maglan at univates.br  Thu Jan  5 12:22:35 2006
From: maglan at univates.br (Maglan Cristiano Diemer)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:22:35 -0200
Subject: [Icecast] Does the icecast 2.2 works with video streaming?
In-Reply-To: <005501c610d9$825edb00$0300a8c0@kottoland>
References: <20060103194317.GD25428@zakopane.cs.ubc.ca>
	<005501c610d9$825edb00$0300a8c0@kottoland>
Message-ID: <43BD0F8B.4070600@univates.br>

I use gstreamer for this. Gstreamer capture video and audio from 
firewire (dv)
or video4linux device and send icecast server.

For video only (encode with Ogg theora) from dv camera:

$ gst-launch-0.8 \
         dv1394src ! \
         dvdec name=dv quality=5 ! \
	ffcolorspace ! "video/x-raw-yuv",format=\(fourcc\)I420 ! \
         ffvideoscale ! "video/x-raw-yuv",width=352,height=240 ! \
         theoraenc bitrate=128 keyframe_force=64 keyframe_freq=64 ! \
	oggmux name=mux { \
             mux. ! \
	    queue ! \
             shout2send ip=127.0.0.1 port=8000 password=hackme 
mount=gstreamer.ogg }

For video (OggTheora) and audio (OggVorbis) from dv camera:

$ gst-launch-0.8 \
	dv1394src ! \
	dvdec name=dv quality=5 \
        { dv.audio !  queue ! \
           audioscale ! audio/x-raw-int,rate=22050 ! \
           audioscale ! audio/x-raw-int,rate=11025 ! \
           audioconvert ! audio/x-raw-float,channels=1 ! \
           rawvorbisenc managed=true max-bitrate=16000  ! queue ! mux. } \
        { dv.video ! queue ! \
           ffcolorspace ! "video/x-raw-yuv",format=\(fourcc\)I420 ! \
           videodrop ! "video/x-raw-yuv",framerate=\(double\)9.0 ! \
           deinterlace ! \
           videoscale ! "video/x-raw-yuv",width=352,height=240 ! \
           theoraenc bitrate=116 keyframe_force=64 keyframe_freq=64 ! \
           queue ! mux. } \
        { oggmux name=mux ! \
           shout2send ip=127.0.0.1 port=8000 password=hackme 
mount=gstreamer.ogg }

-- 
Prof. Maglan Cristiano Diemer
maglan at univates.br

Daniel Quintana C. wrote:
> Hello,
> I need to transmit live video streaming, from my camera to the icecast
> server.  I already try the live audio streaming with Darkice and icecast.
> So i was wondering if the Icecast 2.2 could be used to be the video stream
> server for my live video streaming-
> 
> By the way, What i need to make a live video streaming ? ( i have a capture
> card and a dv camera).
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Daniel


From kushal_chauhan_4u at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  6 15:00:54 2006
From: kushal_chauhan_4u at yahoo.com (Kushal Chauhan)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 07:00:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Icecast] how to get number of listeners on every mountpoint??
Message-ID: <20060106150054.15363.qmail@web53313.mail.yahoo.com>

  i want to get the number of listeners on a mountpoint so that as soon as the number of lisrteners  becomes zero I can stop the streaming on that mount point 
  immediately.
  can anyone help me??


			
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From kjoonlee at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 18:31:10 2006
From: kjoonlee at gmail.com (Kyungjoon Lee)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 03:31:10 +0900
Subject: [Icecast] Trac is missing 2.3 and 2.3.1 from the list.
Message-ID: <80cc888e0601071031w568ffcb6p92526b067ac398ec@mail.gmail.com>

When you go to trac.xiph.org to create a new ticket, 2.3 and 2.3.1 is
missing from the version dropdown-list.


From ross at stationplaylist.com  Sun Jan  8 23:39:44 2006
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:39:44 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] metadata history
Message-ID: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>

I think this has come up before a few times, but Icecast still doesn't 
have this feature.

A history of metadata changes.  Metadata  is generally updated at a 
change of song so it usually provides a song played history.

It was argued that a Song History could not be done reliably because 
metadata could be updated at any time, but perhaps it should be thought 
of as Metadata History instead.

The last several metadata changes, up to a configurable number, could be 
stored and made available for viewing in a browser .  Shoutcast supports 
this feature, and it's the only feature I've heard others saying that 
they miss when switching to Icecast.

Regards,
Ross.



From john at io.com  Mon Jan  9 04:56:48 2006
From: john at io.com (John Buttery)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 22:56:48 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] metadata history
In-Reply-To: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>
References: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>
Message-ID: <20060109045648.GA39347@eris.io.com>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:39:44PM +1300, Ross Levis wrote:
> The last several metadata changes, up to a configurable number,
> could be stored and made available for viewing in a browser .
> Shoutcast supports this feature, and it's the only feature I've
> heard others saying that they miss when switching to Icecast.

  Sounds like an interesting feature...seems to me that a more robust
solution would be to define a command that would receive the new
metadata string(s) on its stdin.  Then you could do whatever you
wanted with it (including keeping a history of arbitrary and
configurable length, of course).

-- 
  John  ! Since this email isn't signed, you can't really tell it's from
 Buttery! me; I'll hopefully have my computer working normally again
www.io.c! soon, but until then...gotta love catastrophic drive failure.
om/~john! Mmm, rdiff-backup...


From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk  Mon Jan  9 22:35:10 2006
From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie)
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] metadata history
In-Reply-To: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>
References: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>
Message-ID: <43C2E51E.8070905@strath.ac.uk>

Ross Levis wrote:
> I think this has come up before a few times, but Icecast still doesn't 
> have this feature.

I use a wee Perl script to emulate this behaviour. It loads the metadata 
from the playlist.log file, then spews out in reverse order the last n 
lines for the specified mountpoint. If anyone wants to see it, just ask.

I agree that having the feature built-in would be nice.

Leo


From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan  9 21:59:17 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:59:17 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] metadata history
In-Reply-To: <43C2E51E.8070905@strath.ac.uk>
References: <007e01c614ac$cdb63a40$a400a8c0@stationplaylist.com>
	<43C2E51E.8070905@strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060109155730.06569ca8@oddsock.org>

All feature requests should be officially documented here : 
http://trac.xiph.org

oddsock
At 04:35 PM 1/9/2006, Leo Currie wrote:
>Ross Levis wrote:
>>I think this has come up before a few times, but Icecast still 
>>doesn't have this feature.
>
>I use a wee Perl script to emulate this behaviour. It loads the 
>metadata from the playlist.log file, then spews out in reverse order 
>the last n lines for the specified mountpoint. If anyone wants to 
>see it, just ask.
>
>I agree that having the feature built-in would be nice.
>
>Leo
>_______________________________________________
>Icecast mailing list
>Icecast at xiph.org
>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast




From Jason at Weatherserver.net  Tue Jan 10 21:08:42 2006
From: Jason at Weatherserver.net (Jason (WeatherServer))
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:08:42 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Listener duration
Message-ID: <000601c6162a$095aa210$1400000a@workstation>

<max-listener-duration>3600</max-listener-duration>

Is that a mountpoint tag or across the whole server tag.

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From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 11 03:30:57 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:30:57 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Listener duration
In-Reply-To: <000601c6162a$095aa210$1400000a@workstation>
References: <000601c6162a$095aa210$1400000a@workstation>
Message-ID: <43C47BF1.6000405@xiph.org>

Jason (WeatherServer) wrote:
> <max-listener-duration>3600</max-listener-duration>
> 
> Is that a mountpoint tag or across the whole server tag.

That is per <mount>.

karl.




From bryan.brown at kcsb.org  Thu Jan 12 18:20:55 2006
From: bryan.brown at kcsb.org (Bryan Brown)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:20:55 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>	<20021219190945.A19172@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E022	6B7.3020506@qwest.net>	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>	<1040335378.1101.29.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E024A34.902	0502@qwest.net>	<1040339829.1100.104.camel@bogus.hackers.club>		<3E026694.50	
	00903@qwest.net>
	<1040392291.1073.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E034C6E.8000807@qwest.net>
	<1040404763.1073.43.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<3E035880.90206@qwest.net>
	<1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>

I currently have Icecast 2.3.1 running with Darkice on a 
Fedora Core 4 box (with the 2.6.14 kernel). We have three 
streams running (all mp3) @ 128kbs, 64kbs, and 24kbs.

I am consistently seeing the following error:

kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual 
address ffffffff

It does appear to be icecast causing the error. Oddly, when 
this first started showing up, it would crash icecast 
entirely - meaning I couldn't get any stream. Now, it seems 
that icecast continues to run, but only one or two of the 
streams will fail.

Any ideas? I have a friend who's also looking around, but 
we're pretty stumped as to what's causing the error.

Thanks,

Bryan

P.S. This is a brand new hard drive, and a brand new 
installation of fedora core and icecast. The computer itself 
is about 3 years old (Dell).


From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 12 18:59:30 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:59:30 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>	<20021219190945.A19172@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E022	6B7.3020506@qwest.net>	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>	<1040335378.1101.29.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E024A34.902	0502@qwest.net>	<1040339829.1100.104.camel@bogus.hackers.club>		<3E026694.50		00903@qwest.net>	<1040392291.1073.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E034C6E.8000807@qwest.net>	<1040404763.1073.43.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E035880.90206@qwest.net>	<1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
Message-ID: <43C6A712.7050906@xiph.org>

Bryan Brown wrote:
> I currently have Icecast 2.3.1 running with Darkice on a Fedora Core 4 
> box (with the 2.6.14 kernel). We have three streams running (all mp3) @ 
> 128kbs, 64kbs, and 24kbs.
> 
> I am consistently seeing the following error:
> 
> kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffffff
> 
> It does appear to be icecast causing the error. Oddly, when this first 
> started showing up, it would crash icecast entirely - meaning I couldn't 
> get any stream. Now, it seems that icecast continues to run, but only 
> one or two of the streams will fail.
> 
> Any ideas? I have a friend who's also looking around, but we're pretty 
> stumped as to what's causing the error.

While icecast could be a trigger case in your setup, there isn't 
anything within icecast that is known to do this, and depending on what 
the actual cause is will also affect how icecast runs afterwards.

I do see a 2.6.15 out so there may already be a fix, but you'll have to 
decode that oops output for the 2.6.14 to see where it fails if you want 
to investigate it.  There is information out there to do the decode but 
we can't say based on what you've said whether it's a driver bug or bad 
hardware.

karl.


From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Fri Jan 13 10:47:48 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:47:48 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast related packages available
Message-ID: <1137149268.28690.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,
I made some debian packages related to icecast (libshout,
ices,icecast,...).
They are all available officialy, but tthey need to be validated to
integrated official distribution (either Sid, or Etch).
Feel free to try them out.
Here is the lines you could add to you sources.list:

deb ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/debian/ testing main
deb-src ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/debian/ testing main
deb ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/debian/ unstable main
deb-src ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/debian/ unstable main

-- 
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Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better.
http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation.
Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org.



From keegan at thebasement.org  Sun Jan 15 03:08:33 2006
From: keegan at thebasement.org (Keegan Quinn)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:08:33 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] icecast related packages available
In-Reply-To: <1137149268.28690.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1137149268.28690.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20060115030833.GA10728@noise.tb.ptp>

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:47:48AM +0100, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> Hi,
> I made some debian packages related to icecast (libshout,
> ices,icecast,...).
> They are all available officialy, but tthey need to be validated to
> integrated official distribution (either Sid, or Etch).
> Feel free to try them out.

That's very kind of you, but are you aware that icecast 2.2 is already
in sarge[0] and icecast 2.3.1 is already in etch[1] and sid[2]?

Is there some advantage to using your packages?  I originally made
the icecast + libshout packages which are now in Debian a couple of
years ago, so I'd be interested to hear.

Thanks,

-- 
Keegan Quinn  <keegan at thebasement.org>
CEO, Producer
the basement productions
http://www.thebasement.org

[0] http://packages.debian.org/stable/sound/icecast2
[1] http://packages.debian.org/testing/sound/icecast2
[2] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/icecast2
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From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sun Jan 15 10:19:32 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:19:32 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast related packages available
In-Reply-To: <20060115030833.GA10728@noise.tb.ptp>
References: <1137149268.28690.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20060115030833.GA10728@noise.tb.ptp>
Message-ID: <1137320372.15682.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 19:08 -0800, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> That's very kind of you, but [...]
> Is there some advantage to using your packages?

Well... For example, libshout 2.2 was out recently (and it fixes a bug
the concerns me), and I took the debian source package and aupdated it.
No one did it before me.
But if we want libshout 2.2 to be uploaded to the main distribution, it
should be declared/validated as stable enough (not too much bugs).
There is no other way than testing it then.
That is the reason I submitted it to you: for testing wether I made some
mistake or not when updating the package. May be I forgot to mention the
testing purpose of the annoounce (and I do apologize), but the package
needs to be tested. :-)

-- 
A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source & GPL).
Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better.
http://www.cps-project.org for downloads & documentation.
Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org.



From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sun Jan 15 23:49:16 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:49:16 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>
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	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>
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On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 10:20 -0800, Bryan Brown wrote:
> I currently have Icecast 2.3.1 running with Darkice on a 
> Fedora Core 4 box (with the 2.6.14 kernel). 
> I am consistently seeing the following error:
> kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual 
> address ffffffff
> It does appear to be icecast causing the error. 

I compiled Icecast 2.3.1 on a Fedora core 4/2.6.14 and saw no problem.
I also run the icecast server on it, no problem.
Can you assume your hardware is 100% OK?

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From dnr at freemail.lt  Mon Jan 16 12:02:31 2006
From: dnr at freemail.lt (Klauss Fumuldavijus)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:31 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] icecast_auth (url authentication)
Message-ID: <007e01c61a94$ba7660c0$4f6510ac@in.telecom.lt>

has anyone tried $subj php scripts located in /examples/ dir?
in my case any authorisation of protected mount seems to be bypassed without any checks. Without any logins or passwords i can listen to locked stream.

also, time control and user access history isn't working - only mounpoints and users are added to mysql database, no user activity is recorded.

i've found some interesting variables in icecast.xml.sample:
<on-connect>/home/icecast/bin/stream-start</on-connect>                                                                     
 <on-disconnect>/home/icecast/bin/stream-stop</on-disconnect>

maybe they are realated to problem described above?

thanx 4 thoughts....
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan 16 14:37:20 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:37:20 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast_auth (url authentication)
In-Reply-To: <007e01c61a94$ba7660c0$4f6510ac@in.telecom.lt>
References: <007e01c61a94$ba7660c0$4f6510ac@in.telecom.lt>
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At 06:02 AM 1/16/2006, Klauss Fumuldavijus wrote:
>has anyone tried $subj php scripts located in /examples/ dir?
>in my case any authorisation of protected mount seems to be bypassed 
>without any checks. Without any logins or passwords i can listen to 
>locked stream.
>

This has been reported before, however it's has ALWAYS been due to 
caching of the data in the media player.  Winamp, for instance, 
caches your username and password in the request, so usually you just 
have to enter the user/pass once and from that time forward it may 
*seem* that you are bypassing the user/pass check, however icecast 
still validates it.  Try using something like "wget" (which doesn't 
cache user/passwords for http authenticated streams)

oddsock 




From andy at milonic.com  Tue Jan 17 16:51:24 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:51:24 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks
Message-ID: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi All,

I've got a problem with fallbacks and I just cannot seem to find the answer 
anywhere, I've been looking for weeks.

Here's the situation:

Stream is working fine and listeners are happy. Then, the stream stops and 
the fallback takes over, great everyone is still happy. BUT....Even though 
the stream has come back online the fallback continues to play over and over 
and never resumes where it was until the user disconnects, user not happy.

Anybody know how I can get the stream to take control/priority over the 
fallback?

Thanks very much in advance,
Andy 



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 17 17:52:45 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:52:45 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks
In-Reply-To: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601180351170.1566@data.home>

Hi,

You need to include the following in the <mount> section for your main 
mountpoint:

<fallback-override>1</fallback-override>

Geoff.


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From paranoid at dds.nl  Tue Jan 17 17:19:55 2006
From: paranoid at dds.nl (paranoid)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:19:55 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>


Hi all,

I posted this message before on icecast-dev, but I guess it's more 
appropiate here.

First of all thanks again for icecast2. It keeps surprising me how easy and 
stable it is to use!

I'm working with icecast2 from SVN now (revision 10692) and it's mount point 
features. I've created the top mount point '/play.ogg' so we have only one main 
mount point for users to tune into.

Now this /play.ogg has the fallback /live.ogg and /live.ogg has the fallback 
/playlist.ogg. In the config file I added metadata for the /play.ogg mount 
point that looks like this:

<mount>
     <mount-name>/play.ogg</mount-name>
     <stream-name>Beathead Broadcasts</stream-name>
     <stream-description>Homebrew Broadcasts for Hip 
Beatheads</stream-description>
     <stream-url>www.beathead.net</stream-url>
     <genre>beats</genre>
     <fallback-mount>/live.ogg</fallback-mount>
     <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
     <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
     <hidden>0</hidden>
     <no-yp>0</no-yp>
</mount>

Unfortunately, when I look at the /play.ogg metadata in status.xsl, it is al 
empty.

Do I use the wrong metadata tags in the config or is this normal behaviour for 
a non-connected mount which only serves as main entry mount point?

Thanks for reading and any reaction that may follow.

Regards,
Frank Keijzers

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From andy at milonic.com  Tue Jan 17 18:29:43 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:29:43 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks
References: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601180351170.1566@data.home>
Message-ID: <0c3301c61b93$fc65cbb0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi Geoff,

I tried that, here's my mount:

<mount>
 <mount-name>/studio</mount-name>
 <dump-file>/tmp/studio.mp3</dump-file>
 <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
 <max-listeners>300</max-listeners>
 <fallback-mount>/fallback.mp3</fallback-mount>
 <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
</mount>

Could it be because it's an mp3 file that I'm falling back to?

Cheers,
Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <geoff at hitsandpieces.net>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks


> Hi,
> 
> You need to include the following in the <mount> section for your main 
> mountpoint:
> 
> <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
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From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan 17 20:22:50 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:22:50 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks
In-Reply-To: <0c3301c61b93$fc65cbb0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601180351170.1566@data.home>
	<0c3301c61b93$fc65cbb0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <43CD521A.40505@xiph.org>

Andy Woolley wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
> 
> I tried that, here's my mount:
> 
> <mount>
> <mount-name>/studio</mount-name>
> <dump-file>/tmp/studio.mp3</dump-file>
> <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
> <max-listeners>300</max-listeners>
> <fallback-mount>/fallback.mp3</fallback-mount>
> <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
> </mount>
> 
> Could it be because it's an mp3 file that I'm falling back to?

The fact that the fallback is a file should not affect override.  As 
always the key thing to check is the error log at a high enough log 
level (eg 4).

karl.



From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan 17 20:41:56 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:41:56 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
Message-ID: <43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>

paranoid wrote:
> 
> Hi all,

> First of all thanks again for icecast2. It keeps surprising me how easy 
> and stable it is to use!

we do try to make it easy, but there are people who still have trouble :)

> Now this /play.ogg has the fallback /live.ogg and /live.ogg has the 
> fallback /playlist.ogg. In the config file I added metadata for the 
> /play.ogg mount point that looks like this:
> 
> <mount>
>     <mount-name>/play.ogg</mount-name>
>     <stream-name>Beathead Broadcasts</stream-name>
>     <stream-description>Homebrew Broadcasts for Hip 
> Beatheads</stream-description>
>     <stream-url>www.beathead.net</stream-url>
>     <genre>beats</genre>
>     <fallback-mount>/live.ogg</fallback-mount>
>     <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
>     <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
>     <hidden>0</hidden>
>     <no-yp>0</no-yp>
> </mount>
> 
> Unfortunately, when I look at the /play.ogg metadata in status.xsl, it 
> is al empty.
> 
> Do I use the wrong metadata tags in the config or is this normal 
> behaviour for a non-connected mount which only serves as main entry 
> mount point?

That info is really for the YP servers currently, initially for cases 
such as inactive on-demand relays.  You may want to have /play.ogg as a 
local relay of /playlist.ogg with /live.ogg configured for 
fallback/override.

karl.



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 17 21:15:53 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:15:53 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Fallbacks
In-Reply-To: <0b2401c61b91$cf5d3d80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <09bf01c61b86$407588d0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601180351170.1566@data.home>
	<0b2401c61b91$cf5d3d80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601180714270.1566@data.home>

Andy Woolley wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
>
> I tried that, here's my mount:
>
> <mount>
> <mount-name>/studio</mount-name>
> <dump-file>/tmp/studio.mp3</dump-file>
> <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
> <max-listeners>300</max-listeners>
> <fallback-mount>/fallback.mp3</fallback-mount>
> <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
> </mount>
>
> Could it be because it's an mp3 file that I'm falling back to?

Maybe, I've not tried the MP3 fallback stuff.  But I'm guessing that it's 
*meant* to work even so.  It certainly looks ok.  Maybe one of the 
developers can comment on this.

Geoff.



From andy at milonic.com  Tue Jan 17 22:52:42 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:52:42 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Have now set the log to level 4 and viewed the output when the stream 
stops/starts.

Can't see any errors though. I'm getting:

source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/fallback.mp3"

   on stream stop and:

source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/studio"

   when the stream starts again, so looks like it's working.

Could it be the client at fault?

Also, I did notice that sometimes (very occasionally) it will actually work 
but takes about 3 to 4 minutes to action. I tried the test again but it 
doesn't work every time only works occasionally.

Any ideas? I can show you the logs if you like.

Thanks very much for the help it's appreciated,
Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Heyes" <karl at xiph.org>
To: "paranoid" <paranoid at dds.nl>
Cc: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts


> paranoid wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>
>> First of all thanks again for icecast2. It keeps surprising me how easy 
>> and stable it is to use!
>
> we do try to make it easy, but there are people who still have trouble :)
>
>> Now this /play.ogg has the fallback /live.ogg and /live.ogg has the 
>> fallback /playlist.ogg. In the config file I added metadata for the 
>> /play.ogg mount point that looks like this:
>>
>> <mount>
>>     <mount-name>/play.ogg</mount-name>
>>     <stream-name>Beathead Broadcasts</stream-name>
>>     <stream-description>Homebrew Broadcasts for Hip 
>> Beatheads</stream-description>
>>     <stream-url>www.beathead.net</stream-url>
>>     <genre>beats</genre>
>>     <fallback-mount>/live.ogg</fallback-mount>
>>     <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
>>     <fallback-when-full>1</fallback-when-full>
>>     <hidden>0</hidden>
>>     <no-yp>0</no-yp>
>> </mount>
>>
>> Unfortunately, when I look at the /play.ogg metadata in status.xsl, it is 
>> al empty.
>>
>> Do I use the wrong metadata tags in the config or is this normal 
>> behaviour for a non-connected mount which only serves as main entry mount 
>> point?
>
> That info is really for the YP servers currently, initially for cases such 
> as inactive on-demand relays.  You may want to have /play.ogg as a local 
> relay of /playlist.ogg with /live.ogg configured for fallback/override.
>
> karl.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast 



From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan 17 23:11:29 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:11:29 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>

Andy Woolley wrote:
> Have now set the log to level 4 and viewed the output when the stream 
> stops/starts.
> 
> Can't see any errors though. I'm getting:
> 
> source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/fallback.mp3"
> 
>   on stream stop and:
> 
> source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/studio"
> 
>   when the stream starts again, so looks like it's working.
> 
> Could it be the client at fault?
> 
> Also, I did notice that sometimes (very occasionally) it will actually 
> work but takes about 3 to 4 minutes to action. I tried the test again 
> but it doesn't work every time only works occasionally.

from the description, it sounds like it is doing what it's supposed to 
be doing, but the listening client is buffering a large amount of the 
sent stream data.  The player will have a buffer, verify what setting 
that is at and what the stream stream bitrate is.

karl.



From bryan.brown at kcsb.org  Wed Jan 18 01:17:01 2006
From: bryan.brown at kcsb.org (Bryan Brown)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:17:01 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <1137368956.15682.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>	<20021219190945.A19172@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E022	6B7.3020506@qwest.net>	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>	<1040335378.1101.29.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E024A34.902	0502@qwest.net>	<1040339829.1100.104.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E026694.50	
	00903@qwest.net>	<1040392291.1073.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E034C6E.8000807@qwest.net>	<1040404763.1073.43.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E035880.90206@qwest.net>	<1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
	<1137368956.15682.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <43CD970D.1020407@kcsb.org>

Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> I compiled Icecast 2.3.1 on a Fedora core 4/2.6.14 and saw no problem.
> I also run the icecast server on it, no problem.
> Can you assume your hardware is 100% OK?

Well... no. I can't really assume anything at this point. 
The computer itself isn't *that* old (3 to 4 years), so 
having the original hard drive crash was a bit of a surprise.

The strange part is it varies so wildly. I'll get anywhere 
from two hours to 5 days of uptime before either icecast or 
the system crashes - all with the same error.

John Hebert wrote:
 > This may be a long shot, but I smell bad hardware.
 >
 > Copy the drive to a similar box and test. If that 
   > isn't  possible, try testing your RAM with mem86.

I did install the old hard drive in a new box, but it 
wouldn't even take a reinstall. The RAM is a good place 
start, but at this point, I may just save myself the trouble 
and purchase a new box.

In any case, the feedback was very helpful. Thanks folks.

Bryan


From gaby at gabole.com  Wed Jan 18 10:42:59 2006
From: gaby at gabole.com (Gaby)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:42:59 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] pb accessing admin and web directory
Message-ID: <002601c61c1b$f38b86a0$4e00a8c0@gabyfix>

Hi

i've recently installed latest icecast version and i've build a flash player to play icecast streams

i want to retrieve song title info, from admin/stats.xml or web/playlist.log

my problem(s) is (are):

i can access the stats.xml page in admin dir, but not the other pages of this dir

i canno't access any page of web directory...

i've set correct paths in icecast.xml but doesn't seem to change...

any help would be really appreciated

regards

Gaby
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From andy at milonic.com  Thu Jan 19 10:11:53 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:11:53 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

karl wrote:
> from the description, it sounds like it is doing what it's supposed to be 
> doing, but the listening client is buffering a large amount of the sent 
> stream data.  The player will have a buffer, verify what setting that is 
> at and what the stream stream bitrate is.

Seems this is the answer, it's working but there is a 4-5 minute delay 
caused by a buffer once the fallback returns to the stream

This then puts the stream 4-5 minutes behind when it finally starts up.

Is there anything server side that I can change to make the time gap 
shorter?

Regards,
Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Heyes" <karl at xiph.org>
To: "Andy Woolley" <andy at milonic.com>
Cc: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts


> Andy Woolley wrote:
>> Have now set the log to level 4 and viewed the output when the stream 
>> stops/starts.
>>
>> Can't see any errors though. I'm getting:
>>
>> source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/fallback.mp3"
>>
>>   on stream stop and:
>>
>> source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/studio"
>>
>>   when the stream starts again, so looks like it's working.
>>
>> Could it be the client at fault?
>>
>> Also, I did notice that sometimes (very occasionally) it will actually 
>> work but takes about 3 to 4 minutes to action. I tried the test again but 
>> it doesn't work every time only works occasionally.
>
> from the description, it sounds like it is doing what it's supposed to be 
> doing, but the listening client is buffering a large amount of the sent 
> stream data.  The player will have a buffer, verify what setting that is 
> at and what the stream stream bitrate is.
>
> karl. 



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 19 11:17:24 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:17:24 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
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	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>

Andy Woolley wrote:

> Seems this is the answer, it's working but there is a 4-5 minute delay caused 
> by a buffer once the fallback returns to the stream
>
> This then puts the stream 4-5 minutes behind when it finally starts up.

So when you're listening before the fallback, it's not anywhere near this 
far behind?

I'm guessing that maybe Icecast is not sending the stream at the 
approximate bitrate, but is pushing it as quickly as it can down the pipe. 
Either that or Icecast is filling some internal queue with the MP3 data 
from the file.  I guess it'd be easy enough to check which this is.

Geoff.



From sriharsha at trellisys.net  Thu Jan 19 10:31:52 2006
From: sriharsha at trellisys.net (Sriharsha)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:01:52 +0530
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.
Message-ID: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>


Hi,

I have downloaded Icecast server Exe and installed. I want to stream music
on my site,

I want to set it up on windows 2003 server machine,

I want to know what r all the steps that I need to follow. What Player I can
use to host the music.(Like Winamp...)




with Regards...

Sriharsha.K
Trellisys.Net pvt. Ltd
# 572, 2nd Block,
RT Nagar., Bangalore

www.trellisys.net 
Phone :+91 80 56962755
       +91 93425 45170




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From andy at milonic.com  Thu Jan 19 12:06:14 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:06:14 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan><43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org><0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy><43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org><085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>
Message-ID: <0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

> So when you're listening before the fallback, it's not anywhere near this 
> far behind?

Just tested it all so here's what is happening.

Stream is up and all is well. Then I take the stream down and after about 14 
seconds the fallback starts, that's great and exactly what I want.

However, I start the stream again and have to wait about 5 minutes for the 
fallback to stop and the stream to resume on the client. Also, if I stop the 
stream again, there is a 5 minute delay until the fallback restarts so 
something is buffering about 5 minutes worth of data.

Any ideas on how I can reduce this lag, I've not got much control over the 
clients but have full control of the server so if there is any setting I can 
try, that would be great.

Cheers,
Andy



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <geoff at hitsandpieces.net>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts


> Andy Woolley wrote:
>
>> Seems this is the answer, it's working but there is a 4-5 minute delay 
>> caused by a buffer once the fallback returns to the stream
>>
>> This then puts the stream 4-5 minutes behind when it finally starts up.
>
> So when you're listening before the fallback, it's not anywhere near this 
> far behind?
>
> I'm guessing that maybe Icecast is not sending the stream at the 
> approximate bitrate, but is pushing it as quickly as it can down the pipe. 
> Either that or Icecast is filling some internal queue with the MP3 data 
> from the file.  I guess it'd be easy enough to check which this is.
>
> Geoff.
>
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From andy at milonic.com  Thu Jan 19 12:11:00 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:11:00 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.
References: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>
Message-ID: <0b6001c61cf1$6942a830$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi,

I can't help much with the Windows config as I only use Unix based install 
but it should be straight forward as long as you know a little about tcp/ip 
and web hosting etc.

But, I can tell you what we use to do out streaming.

We use Winamp and the SAM Encoder from www.spacialaudio.com - They are not 
the only choice but it all seems to work ok for us.

Hope this helps and good luck,
Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sriharsha" <sriharsha at trellisys.net>
To: <icecast-dev at xiph.org>; <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.


>
> Hi,
>
> I have downloaded Icecast server Exe and installed. I want to stream music
> on my site,
>
> I want to set it up on windows 2003 server machine,
>
> I want to know what r all the steps that I need to follow. What Player I 
> can
> use to host the music.(Like Winamp...)
>
>
>
>
> with Regards...
>
> Sriharsha.K
> Trellisys.Net pvt. Ltd
> # 572, 2nd Block,
> RT Nagar., Bangalore
>
> www.trellisys.net
> Phone :+91 80 56962755
>       +91 93425 45170
>
>
>
>
>


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From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 19 12:33:35 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:33:35 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan><43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org><0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy><43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org><085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>
	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>

Andy Woolley wrote:
>> So when you're listening before the fallback, it's not anywhere near 
>> this far behind?
> 
> 
> Just tested it all so here's what is happening.
> 
> Stream is up and all is well. Then I take the stream down and after 
> about 14 seconds the fallback starts, that's great and exactly what I want.
> 
> However, I start the stream again and have to wait about 5 minutes for 
> the fallback to stop and the stream to resume on the client. Also, if I 
> stop the stream again, there is a 5 minute delay until the fallback 
> restarts so something is buffering about 5 minutes worth of data.
> 
> Any ideas on how I can reduce this lag, I've not got much control over 
> the clients but have full control of the server so if there is any 
> setting I can try, that would be great.

If you want a time regulated fallback then use a source client like 
ezstream. To maintain consistency, no timing occurs on the fallback to 
file as that requires parsing of all formats.

karl.



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 19 12:57:31 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:57:31 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan><43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org><0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy><43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org><085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>
	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>

Karl Heyes wrote:

> To maintain consistency, no timing occurs on the fallback to file as that 
> requires parsing of all formats.

hmmm, good point, but it obviously breaks fallback-override (as far as it's 
useful), and also could cause your outgoing bandwidth to be swamped.

Suggestion: How about allowing the admin to configure a bitrate for the 
fallback file.  This would make it their responsibility to get it right, 
but would solve both of the above.

Geoff.



From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 19 14:11:29 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:11:29 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan><43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org><0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy><43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org><085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>
Message-ID: <43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org>

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Karl Heyes wrote:
> 
>> To maintain consistency, no timing occurs on the fallback to file as 
>> that requires parsing of all formats.
> 
> 
> hmmm, good point, but it obviously breaks fallback-override (as far as 
> it's useful), and also could cause your outgoing bandwidth to be swamped.

It's not that fallback override breaks, but there may be lot of stream 
data sent to that listener. There is a delay each time around the main 
handler to limit busy looping.

> Suggestion: How about allowing the admin to configure a bitrate for the 
> fallback file.  This would make it their responsibility to get it right, 
> but would solve both of the above.

That is certainly possible, I was wondering about implementing such a 
mechanism as a simple regulator but never got around to implementing it.


karl.



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan 19 14:13:31 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:13:31 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>
	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>
	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>
	<43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>

At 08:11 AM 1/19/2006, Karl Heyes wrote:
>Geoff Shang wrote:
>>Karl Heyes wrote:
>>
>>>To maintain consistency, no timing occurs on the fallback to file 
>>>as that requires parsing of all formats.
>>
>>hmmm, good point, but it obviously breaks fallback-override (as far 
>>as it's useful), and also could cause your outgoing bandwidth to be swamped.
>
>It's not that fallback override breaks, but there may be lot of 
>stream data sent to that listener. There is a delay each time around 
>the main handler to limit busy looping.
>
>>Suggestion: How about allowing the admin to configure a bitrate for 
>>the fallback file.  This would make it their responsibility to get 
>>it right, but would solve both of the above.
>
>That is certainly possible, I was wondering about implementing such 
>a mechanism as a simple regulator but never got around to implementing it.

personally I wouldn't mind seeing the fallback to file implemented as 
a simple source loop creation.  This would create another source 
thread (inefficient maybe, but then it could be treated just like any 
other source).  This would also add another dependency to icecast (it 
would add libshout), which might be a bit problematic, but still 
worth looking at...I know icecast already shares a lot of code with libshout

oddsock




From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 19 14:44:14 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:44:14 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>	<43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org>
	<7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <43CFA5BE.6040406@xiph.org>

oddsock wrote:
> At 08:11 AM 1/19/2006, Karl Heyes wrote:

>> That is certainly possible, I was wondering about implementing such a 
>> mechanism as a simple regulator but never got around to implementing it.
> 
> 
> personally I wouldn't mind seeing the fallback to file implemented as a 
> simple source loop creation.  This would create another source thread 
> (inefficient maybe, but then it could be treated just like any other 
> source).  This would also add another dependency to icecast (it would 
> add libshout), which might be a bit problematic, but still worth looking 
> at...I know icecast already shares a lot of code with libshout

libshout could be a mechanism to use and it would regulate the rate at 
which ogg and mp3 streams are sent through, what it won't time is 
anything like aac or nsv, so it would be question of what do we aim for. 
   Adding libshout could also be used for implementing push relays.

karl.


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 19 23:02:09 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:02:09 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] [Icecast-dev] metadata fallback mounts
In-Reply-To: <43CFA5BE.6040406@xiph.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>
	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>
	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>
	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>
	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>
	<43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org>
	<7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>
	<43CFA5BE.6040406@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601200901090.1566@data.home>

Karl Heyes wrote:

>   Adding libshout could also be used for implementing push relays.

That would be a nice feature to have.

Geoff.



From pablo at propus.com.br  Sat Jan 21 01:59:41 2006
From: pablo at propus.com.br (Pablo Lorenzzoni)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:59:41 -0200
Subject: [Icecast] Total number of listeners
Message-ID: <20060121015940.GA31562@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>

Hello!

I am using icecast 2.3-kh2 (for the 302 redirect feature), and all my
relays are authenticating with user/pass. Is it possible to know how
many listeners I have for any given mountpoint counting all the relays?

[]s

Pablo

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GnuPG ID: 0x268A084D at pgp.mit.edu
http://www.propus.com.br/ - Propus Inform?tica


From karl at xiph.org  Sat Jan 21 13:49:05 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:49:05 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Total number of listeners
In-Reply-To: <20060121015940.GA31562@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
References: <20060121015940.GA31562@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
Message-ID: <43D23BD1.5030305@xiph.org>

Pablo Lorenzzoni wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I am using icecast 2.3-kh2 (for the 302 redirect feature), and all my
> relays are authenticating with user/pass. Is it possible to know how
> many listeners I have for any given mountpoint counting all the relays?

not currently, not without querying the different relays, or running 
your own local YP server.  I'm thinking of changing the internal 
mechanism for slave registeration, it's possible that the listener count 
could be reported to the master via a similiar mechanism. I'll have to 
check to into.

karl


From r.meechan at wgltd.com  Sat Jan 21 16:28:23 2006
From: r.meechan at wgltd.com (Ricardo Meechan)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:28:23 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] NSV video streaming not working?
Message-ID: <4B9A6084080C8247840154B0759B3FE787BACE@server03.wilsonandgarden.com>

Hi there,
Long time no type ;-)

Im having some difficulty with streaming NSV video using NSVTools.
I believe the problem cropped up before since its in svn??

Anyhooz the problem is I need the latest icecast in win32 format that
has been compiled with this bugfix.

Does anyone have a compiled win32 fix or could maybe help me out in
trying to compile with VS2005.


Many thanks everyone!
Rico. 
 
 
 
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From r.meechan at wgltd.com  Sat Jan 21 17:30:25 2006
From: r.meechan at wgltd.com (Ricardo Meechan)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:30:25 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] NSV video streaming not working?
Message-ID: <4B9A6084080C8247840154B0759B3FE787BACF@server03.wilsonandgarden.com>

 just ignore this,
I upgraded to 2.3.1 and seems to be well! I guess my server wasn't upto
date

-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org] On
Behalf Of Ricardo Meechan
Sent: 21 January 2006 4:28 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: [Icecast] NSV video streaming not working?

Hi there,
Long time no type ;-)

Im having some difficulty with streaming NSV video using NSVTools.
I believe the problem cropped up before since its in svn??

Anyhooz the problem is I need the latest icecast in win32 format that
has been compiled with this bugfix.

Does anyone have a compiled win32 fix or could maybe help me out in
trying to compile with VS2005.


Many thanks everyone!
Rico. 
 
 
 
Ricardo Meechan
IT Administrator
Mobile: +44 (0) 7966 484 371 
 
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f: +44 (0) 1236 825683 
 
 
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From georgshah at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 22:16:12 2006
From: georgshah at gmail.com (Shashi Shah)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:16:12 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and liveice configuration...cannot connect
Message-ID: <5d4a86f30601211416t2cb184a6o4d9919eb536e3c94@mail.gmail.com>

I am a newbie, i apologize for my ignorance.
I have installed icecast and liveice on my box at home and to my
knowledge I believe both of these are working correctly with each
other.  However when I try to connect with winamp it is unable to do
so.  I've been searching through the archives and found something
along the lines of modifying hosts.allow and hosts.deny files.  Has
anyone had to edit these files in order to get their icecast server
working?  I'm also confused because my webpage is working just fine
and I did not have to edit anything special to allow clients to
connect to it.

Thanks in advance,
Shashi


From luisep at tutopia.com  Sat Jan 21 16:36:21 2006
From: luisep at tutopia.com (Luis Enrique P. Rios)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:36:21 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] please help me
Message-ID: <000a01c61ea8$f8602f70$75f042c8@luisenrique>

Hello, i am from Mexico , i like to install icecast2 server on mandriva , i 
have tryed but i could not, i hope yo can help me please, is very important 
for me , i need a guide , the steps or something , tanks a lot.

Luis Enrique Perez Rios 


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 22 01:41:36 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:41:36 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and liveice configuration...cannot connect
In-Reply-To: <5d4a86f30601211416t2cb184a6o4d9919eb536e3c94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d4a86f30601211416t2cb184a6o4d9919eb536e3c94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221138440.1566@data.home>

Hi,

hosts.allow and hosts.deny aren't needed for Icecast2.  Icecast 1.x is 
deprecated and unsupported, and while the odd person using it may still be 
on this list, I think most have upgraded by now as most of the 
functionality of Icecast 1.x is now in 2.x and a lot more besides.

I've not used Liveice lately, but again you should be sure you have the 
latest version (see liveice.sf.net).

If you've got all this, what are you trying specifically and are you seeing 
anything in the error log?

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 22 01:46:18 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:46:18 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.
In-Reply-To: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>
References: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221143490.1566@data.home>

Sriharsha wrote:

> I have downloaded Icecast server Exe and installed. I want to stream music
> on my site,
>
> I want to set it up on windows 2003 server machine,
>
> I want to know what r all the steps that I need to follow. What Player I can
> use to host the music.(Like Winamp...)

Before we give you any specific help, can you be a bit more specific about 
what you want to do?  Do you want a stream of music playing all the time? 
Do you want to simply have songs available for streaming on demand from 
your website?  Or something else?

It's hard for us to provide any further advice until you tell us exactly 
what it is you want to do.

Geoff.



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 22 01:48:11 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:48:11 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] please help me
In-Reply-To: <000a01c61ea8$f8602f70$75f042c8@luisenrique>
References: <000a01c61ea8$f8602f70$75f042c8@luisenrique>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221147110.1566@data.home>

Luis Enrique P. Rios wrote:

> Hello, i am from Mexico , i like to install icecast2 server on mandriva , i 
> have tryed but i could not, i hope yo can help me please, is very important 
> for me , i need a guide , the steps or something , tanks a lot.

I'm not familiar with your distribution, but I"m sure someone else here is.

When you say you tried installing but you could not, what did you try and 
how did it fail?

Geoff.



From marius at flage.org  Sun Jan 22 01:56:24 2006
From: marius at flage.org (Marius Flage)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:56:24 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221143490.1566@data.home>
References: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221143490.1566@data.home>
Message-ID: <43D2E648.6080705@flage.org>

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Do you want to simply have songs available for streaming on 
> demand from your website?

How is this implemented with Icecast?

Marius


From mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr  Sun Jan 22 02:48:13 2006
From: mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:48:13 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] RFC: python-shout-python rpm package
Message-ID: <1137898093.5192.109.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,
I adapted Sebastien Corot's SuSe SRPM to Fedora Core 4:
ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/fedora/SRPMS/python-shout-python-0.2-2.src.rpm

May be some has comments on it.
I CC'd the initial packager.

If you just want the binaries, you can use my repository. Just add this
repo:

[rktmb] name= RKTMB repository mixed
baseurl=ftp://infogerance.locataire-serveur.info/fedora
gpgcheck=0
enabled=1


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 22 08:16:21 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:16:21 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] please help me
In-Reply-To: <5d4a86f30601212123q6382d415g8a4cdc8939894488@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000a01c61ea8$f8602f70$75f042c8@luisenrique> 
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221147110.1566@data.home>
	<5d4a86f30601212123q6382d415g8a4cdc8939894488@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221804380.1566@data.home>

Shashi Shah wrote:

> Thank you for the quick reply.  I am running the latest icecast as
> well as the latest liveice.
>
> I am able to connect to icecast from the same machine.  However when I
> try to connect from another PC, there doesn't seem to be any responce.
> When I say connect, I am simply typing the ip address with the port
> number.  The access and error log files didn't change.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should be looking at next?

The fact that there's nothing in the access or error logs at all means that 
your attempt to connect to Icecast did not reach Icecast.  This could be 
due to a number of factors.  Here's some things to look at:

* Check to make sure any firewalls you're running are letting you do what 
you're trying to do.

* Make sure that you've not used the "bind" atribute in the Icecast config 
file, or that if you have, that you're binding to all the interfaces you 
need.

When you try to connect from the other PC, do you get an error or does it 
just sit there?  If you get an error, what is it?

Geoff.



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 22 08:24:59 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:24:59 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] I want help.
In-Reply-To: <43D2E648.6080705@flage.org>
References: <KBENKLDPLPOIALOKCNIKAEHDCCAA.sriharsha@trellisys.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221143490.1566@data.home>
	<43D2E648.6080705@flage.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221822420.1566@data.home>

Marius Flage wrote:

> Geoff Shang wrote:
>>  Do you want to simply have songs available for streaming on demand from
>>  your website?
>
> How is this implemented with Icecast?


YOu can do this using the fileserving fascility, though you can do it just 
as easily with your webserver.

Geoff.



From kc0ccb at hotmail.com  Mon Jan 23 08:43:44 2006
From: kc0ccb at hotmail.com (Todd Rittel)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:43:44 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] ICECAST Version  2.3.1
Message-ID: <BAY114-DAV163D6F271D1F55285A7C5495100@phx.gbl>

hey everybody,   

    just wanted to know if there's anything i need to do different to install and confiqure version 2.3.1 as oposed to version 2.2 or not ??   

    and what exactly is there in 2.3.1 anyways ?? is it any better then version 2.2 ??   

    and is there any way i can edit the server to make my scanner go live (like right the the second) 


PS:   in the mean time i will download it and install it on my main computer..   


73's and 88's DE TODD KC?CCB DN84FK 

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From andy at milonic.com  Mon Jan 23 13:34:37 2006
From: andy at milonic.com (Andy Woolley)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:34:37 -0000
Subject: [Icecast] Multiple Output Streams
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>	<43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org><7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>
	<43CFA5BE.6040406@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <153101c62021$c1a1bdd0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>

Hi All,

Got a question about multiple streams that I'm a bit confused about.

What I want to do is send a 128Kbps stream up to the server and then have 
the server split this into 128, 56 and 24 Kbps streams.

My question is: What is the best tool for this and what is the process?

I'm guessing that ICES is the tool that I need but thought I'd ask before I 
spent more time on it in case there is a better alternative.

Thanks Very Much,
Andy 



From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan 23 13:49:20 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:49:20 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Multiple Output Streams
In-Reply-To: <153101c62021$c1a1bdd0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601171817160.26377@swan>	<43CD5694.8020109@xiph.org>	<0ffa01c61bb8$b9af3e80$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CD79A1.3010402@xiph.org>	<085001c61ce0$c5d1c970$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192114030.1566@data.home>	<0b4401c61cf0$bf252850$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>	<43CF871F.6040004@xiph.org>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601192254350.1566@data.home>	<43CF9E11.6010907@xiph.org><7.0.0.16.2.20060119081040.04f88da0@oddsock.org>	<43CFA5BE.6040406@xiph.org>
	<153101c62021$c1a1bdd0$1800a8c0@andyh1hrdagniy>
Message-ID: <43D4DEE0.7030601@xiph.org>

Andy Woolley wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Got a question about multiple streams that I'm a bit confused about.
> 
> What I want to do is send a 128Kbps stream up to the server and then 
> have the server split this into 128, 56 and 24 Kbps streams.
> 
> My question is: What is the best tool for this and what is the process?
> 
> I'm guessing that ICES is the tool that I need but thought I'd ask 
> before I spent more time on it in case there is a better alternative.

streamtranscoder is often referred to in such a situation but the use of 
ices is certainly possible.

karl.




From henk.vande.ridder at solcon.nl  Mon Jan 23 14:14:36 2006
From: henk.vande.ridder at solcon.nl (henk van de ridder)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:14:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Icecast as Windows-services
Message-ID: <4697.212.45.32.70.1138025676.squirrel@webmail.solcon.nl>

Hello,

We have some problems to use icecast as a Windows Services.
We have installed the latest Icecast version in Services mode.

We start Icecast.
We see an icecast-service running
When we connect to the machine, streaming of a MP3-file (by using  a M3U
playlist) is OK

But when we logoff our user, then we cannot get connection to the stream
anymore.

When we login again, we see icecast is in the 'stopped' mode.

Does anybody know what we are doing wrong ? Is there a special setting we
need to use ? Or a special parameter when starting icecast as a service ?

Thanks in advance for any help.

With kind regards.,
Henk vd Ridder

(I know, Linux does not have these problems,....)





From Jason at Weatherserver.net  Mon Jan 23 23:32:22 2006
From: Jason at Weatherserver.net (Jason (WeatherServer))
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:32:22 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Feature Requests
Message-ID: <000701c62075$42c0c570$1400000a@workstation>

Is it possible in a future version to be able to enable/disable mounts from inside the web interface the same way steamcast does now.  

I love icecast but i've been looking at steamcast and I like some parts of there web interface ie.  bandwidth usage stats for each mount and in total for the server, and being able to enable/disable mounts. But I don't like the delay, it has that painful shoutcast type of delay when broadcasting.

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Weather @ 6:25pm - Temp: -3.7?C - Humidity 65% - Wind: WNW @ 0 km/h
Baro: 1011kPa Falling - Vis: 24km - Sky: Broken Clouds - Weather:
Rain - Past Hour: 0.00mm - 24hr: 0.00mm - Total:(09/15/05): 207.00mm

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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 24 02:10:09 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:10:09 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] ICECAST Version  2.3.1
In-Reply-To: <BAY114-DAV163D6F271D1F55285A7C5495100@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY114-DAV163D6F271D1F55285A7C5495100@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601241203480.1566@data.home>

Todd Rittel wrote:

>    just wanted to know if there's anything i need to do different to 
> install and confiqure version 2.3.1 as oposed to version 2.2 or not ??

Installation should be the same.  I think there are some extra config 
items, but doing a diff between your distributed config files for the 2.2 
and 2.3.1 versions should alert you as to what these are.

Disclaimer:  I've yet to upgrade, it's on my todo list.

>    and what exactly is there in 2.3.1 anyways ?? is it any better then 
> version 2.2 ??

uh.  yeah.

News file: http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/tags/icecast_2_3_1/NEWS
Detailed change log: 
http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/tags/icecast_2_3_1/ChangeLog
You can also find these inthe Icecast distribution.

Note that the News file has not been updated for Icecast 2.3.1 by the look 
of things, it seems to be the same as for 2.3.0.

>    and is there any way i can edit the server to make my scanner go live 
> (like right the the second)

Sorry, but I don't understand the question.  PLease clarify.

Geoff.



From paulnancy at juno.com  Mon Jan 23 16:36:11 2006
From: paulnancy at juno.com (Paul Jarmulowicz)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:36:11 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Thanks!
Message-ID: <20060123.103611.896.0.paulnancy@juno.com>

Icecast -

Thanks for providing the ATC links, I find listening to the different
facilities interesting.  Just curious, how is each channel set up?  Do
you have people in each city monitoring these ATC frequencies with a
scanner?  It seems like a huge undertaking...


Paul Jarmulowicz
Minneapolis, MN 


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 24 02:20:18 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:20:18 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] please help me
In-Reply-To: <002a01c62039$c01abbc0$aef4e994@luisenrique>
References: <000a01c61ea8$f8602f70$75f042c8@luisenrique>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601221147110.1566@data.home>
	<002a01c62039$c01abbc0$aef4e994@luisenrique>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601241216340.1566@data.home>

Luis Enrique P. Rios wrote:

> Hello again , well first i read the instructions , and i have to download de 
> libraries , libxml, libxslt, and curl , and when i try to make and install 
> this libraries i can't , because first i try to compile libxml and then a 
> message appears and said that it couldn't continue because i need libxslt,

This is highly unlikely, since libxslt needs libxml.  Can you post the 
exact error you get with libxml?  Without libxml, neither libxslt or 
icecast will compile.

It would probably also be helpful if you tel us which versions of libxml 
and libxslt you are trying to compile, and which compiler you are using.

Geoff.



From pablo at propus.com.br  Tue Jan 24 15:27:40 2006
From: pablo at propus.com.br (Pablo Lorenzzoni)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:27:40 -0200
Subject: [Icecast] Total number of listeners
In-Reply-To: <43D23BD1.5030305@xiph.org>
References: <20060121015940.GA31562@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
	<43D23BD1.5030305@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <20060124152740.GA6817@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>

You mean something like getTotalListeners() in
http://svn.xiph.org/websites/dir.xiph.org/index.php ?

Since all our relays are known and authenticated, I think I could query
them all in a regular basis to check how many are connected and build a
nice graph on-the-fly. I think the small change in the internal
mechanism you proposed is better, though.

BTW, the code for dir.xiph.org is not all there, is it?

[]s

Pablo

Em S?b, 21 Jan 2006, Karl Heyes escreveu:

| Pablo Lorenzzoni wrote:
| >Hello!
| >I am using icecast 2.3-kh2 (for the 302 redirect feature), and all my
| >relays are authenticating with user/pass. Is it possible to know how
| >many listeners I have for any given mountpoint counting all the relays?
| 
| not currently, not without querying the different relays, or running your own local YP 
| server.  I'm thinking of changing the internal mechanism for slave registeration, it's 
| possible that the listener count could be reported to the master via a similiar mechanism. 
| I'll have to check to into.
| 
| karl
| 


-- 
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Wed Jan 25 02:37:08 2006
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:37:08 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Total number of listeners
In-Reply-To: <20060124152740.GA6817@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
References: <20060121015940.GA31562@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
	<43D23BD1.5030305@xiph.org>
	<20060124152740.GA6817@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060124203401.05494c38@oddsock.org>

At 09:27 AM 1/24/2006, Pablo Lorenzzoni wrote:
>You mean something like getTotalListeners() in
>http://svn.xiph.org/websites/dir.xiph.org/index.php ?
>
>
>BTW, the code for dir.xiph.org is not all there, is it?

There are 2 parts to the stream directory, the front end (php) which 
you've linked to, and the back end (CGI) which is here.. 
http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/icecast2yp/

it's all there...

oddsock 




From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk  Wed Jan 25 20:55:28 2006
From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:55:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Problem with Icecast as Windows-services
In-Reply-To: <4697.212.45.32.70.1138025676.squirrel@webmail.solcon.nl>
References: <4697.212.45.32.70.1138025676.squirrel@webmail.solcon.nl>
Message-ID: <43D7E5C0.8090106@strath.ac.uk>

henk van de ridder wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We have some problems to use icecast as a Windows Services.
> We have installed the latest Icecast version in Services mode.
> 
> We start Icecast.
> We see an icecast-service running
> When we connect to the machine, streaming of a MP3-file (by using  a M3U
> playlist) is OK
> 
> But when we logoff our user, then we cannot get connection to the stream
> anymore.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
Is the source client running on the same machine as well? If your source 
client isn't running as a service, then it will certainly be stopped 
when you logoff, even if the server is still running.

Can you access the status.xsl page on the server when logged off?

Leo


From pablo at propus.com.br  Thu Jan 26 03:43:36 2006
From: pablo at propus.com.br (Pablo Lorenzzoni)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:43:36 -0200
Subject: [Icecast] Video fallback
Message-ID: <20060126034335.GA14863@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>

Hello!

Using 2.3-kh2 I wasn't able to make fallback work. This is what I am
using:

...
    <mount>
        <max-listeners>2</max-listeners>
        <mount-name>/black.ogg</mount-name>
    </mount>

    <mount>
        <max-listeners>2</max-listeners>
        <mount-name>/live.ogg</mount-name>
        <fallback-mount>/black.ogg</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
    </mount>
...

When watching /live.ogg and /live.ogg source stops, /black.ogg doesn't
come up. Those are theora videos, both are 7 fps, theora quality=9 and
both have the same audio track (vorbis echoing a sine curve, 44k1). I've
tested with VLC 0.8.4.

I was wondering if video fallback is supported at all...

[]s

Pablo

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From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 26 12:36:06 2006
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:36:06 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Video fallback
In-Reply-To: <20060126034335.GA14863@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
References: <20060126034335.GA14863@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
Message-ID: <43D8C236.8000106@xiph.org>

Pablo Lorenzzoni wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Using 2.3-kh2 I wasn't able to make fallback work. This is what I am
> using:
> 
> ...


> I was wondering if video fallback is supported at all...

The fallback handing in kh2 follows the same process as in the main 
release and fallback works with theora as well as vorbis.  What is not 
clear is in this case is what is actually happening.  Can you send me 
error log at around the time the /live.ogg stream stops and describe 
exactly what happens with whatever player your using, also check with 
other theora players if you can, as you may have one that doesn't handle 
chained ogg theora streams.

karl.


From bryan.brown at kcsb.org  Thu Jan 26 20:03:44 2006
From: bryan.brown at kcsb.org (Bryan Brown)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:03:44 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Kernel Error with Icecast
In-Reply-To: <1137368956.15682.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3E01FC45.5060606@qwest.net>	<20021219190945.A19172@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E022	6B7.3020506@qwest.net>	<20021219222853.A20035@tetter.xs4all.nl>	<3E023FB2.3	0		90508@qwest.net>	<1040335378.1101.29.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E024A34.902	0502@qwest.net>	<1040339829.1100.104.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E026694.50	
	00903@qwest.net>	<1040392291.1073.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E034C6E.8000807@qwest.net>	<1040404763.1073.43.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<3E035880.90206@qwest.net>	<1040407731.1074.47.camel@bogus.hackers.club>	<43C69E07.4010502@kcsb.org>
	<1137368956.15682.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <43D92B20.7040703@kcsb.org>

Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 10:20 -0800, Bryan Brown wrote:
> 
> I compiled Icecast 2.3.1 on a Fedora core 4/2.6.14 and saw no problem.
> I also run the icecast server on it, no problem.
> Can you assume your hardware is 100% OK?
> 

Question about you're configuration:

Are you using a live encoder, and if so, which one?

At this point I'm suspecting that something in DarkIce is 
causing Icecast to initiate the error.

I ran memtest86 for 2 hours, no errors detected. The next 
step is to rebuild the kernel, which I *really* don't want 
to do - at least I don't have time for it in the immediate 
future.

Anyway, just curious. Thanks.

Bryan


From henk.vande.ridder at solcon.nl  Thu Jan 26 20:05:21 2006
From: henk.vande.ridder at solcon.nl (Henk van de Ridder)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:05:21 +0100
Subject: Fw: [Icecast] Problem with Icecast as Windows-services
Message-ID: <000501c622b3$d659d660$6729a8c0@hvdr>


 Hallo Leo,

 Thanks for answering my question.
The source client is not on the same machine.

 We have found the solution: it was the Windows Firewall setting on the
 Windows 2003 machine.

 With kind regards,
Henk vd Ridder

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leo Currie" <leo.currie at strath.ac.uk>
> To: <henk.vande.ridder at solcon.nl>
> Cc: <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] Problem with Icecast as Windows-services
>
>
>> henk van de ridder wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We have some problems to use icecast as a Windows Services.
>>> We have installed the latest Icecast version in Services mode.
>>>
>>> We start Icecast.
>>> We see an icecast-service running
>>> When we connect to the machine, streaming of a MP3-file (by using  a M3U
>>> playlist) is OK
>>>
>>> But when we logoff our user, then we cannot get connection to the stream
>>> anymore.
>>
>> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
>> Is the source client running on the same machine as well? If your source 
>> client isn't running as a service, then it will certainly be stopped when 
>> you logoff, even if the server is still running.
>>
>> Can you access the status.xsl page on the server when logged off?
>>
>> Leo
>>
> 




From kloschi at subsignal.org  Fri Jan 27 01:51:09 2006
From: kloschi at subsignal.org (kloschi)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:51:09 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] elegant way of re-encoding?
Message-ID: <43D97C8D.1060206@subsignal.org>

hi,

I have a single stream going to my icecast server, encoded in hi-quality
ogg. goal is to serve hi- and low quality ogg and mp3 streams,
re-encoded from the single hi-quality ogg stream.

encoding all from e.g. oddcast simultaniously is not an option.

it would be easier if source-streams would be static and always named
the same .. unfortunately they are not. if so, I could define simple
configs for streamtranscoder (if I understood the use of
streamtranscoder correctly ;)

so, what I'm looking for is a way to re-encode every stream which is
sent to the icecast server, as soon as it is started.

this could be done with streamtranscoder and a looped bash script
around, that looks if there is a source, if so it starts the re-encode.

Is there an elegant way, better than a bash script? maybe a plugin for
the icecast server itself?

or, where to find out more about?

kind regards,
k


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 27 07:10:54 2006
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:10:54 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] elegant way of re-encoding?
In-Reply-To: <43D97C8D.1060206@subsignal.org>
References: <43D97C8D.1060206@subsignal.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601271707360.1566@data.home>

kloschi wrote:

> it would be easier if source-streams would be static and always named
> the same .. unfortunately they are not. if so, I could define simple
> configs for streamtranscoder (if I understood the use of
> streamtranscoder correctly ;)

Sure, streamTranscoder could do what you say.  Are you saying you have 
questions about it?  Feel free to ask them here.

> so, what I'm looking for is a way to re-encode every stream which is
> sent to the icecast server, as soon as it is started.
>
> this could be done with streamtranscoder and a looped bash script
> around, that looks if there is a source, if so it starts the re-encode.
>
> Is there an elegant way, better than a bash script? maybe a plugin for
> the icecast server itself?

I've not used it, but Icecast now has the ability to execute a command upon 
stream start, as well as upon stream stop.  You could use this fascility to 
launch a streamTranscoder instance.

Geoff.



From spectra at debian.org  Fri Jan 27 05:07:24 2006
From: spectra at debian.org (Pablo Lorenzzoni)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:07:24 -0200
Subject: [Icecast] Video fallback
In-Reply-To: <43D8C236.8000106@xiph.org>
References: <20060126034335.GA14863@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>
	<43D8C236.8000106@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <20060127050724.GA1968@eriador.local.spectra.zapto.org>

Hello!

Em Qui, 26 Jan 2006, Karl Heyes escreveu:
| >I was wondering if video fallback is supported at all...
| 
| The fallback handing in kh2 follows the same process as in the main release and fallback works with theora as well as 
| vorbis.  What is not clear is in this case is what is actually happening.  Can you send me error log at around the 
| time the /live.ogg stream stops and describe exactly what happens with whatever player your using, also check with 
| other theora players if you can, as you may have one that doesn't handle chained ogg theora streams.

Thanks for answering.

I tried with VLC 0.8.4, MPlayer dev-CVS--4.0.3 and Totem-gstreamer
1.0.5. Happened samething with the three: I was playing live.ogg... when
I stopped the source it froze and black.ogg never showed up. I am
attaching a trimmed down, gzipped version of error.log. Also that's what
happened around the time I stopped live.ogg:

------------------------
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] INFO source/get_next_buffer End of Stream /live.ogg
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] INFO source/source_shutdown Source "/live.ogg" exiting
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] INFO source/source_move_clients passing 1 listeners to "/black.ogg"
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_clear_source clearing source "/live.ogg"
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_clear_source removed 0 listeners
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG format-ogg/format_ogg_free_headers releasing header pages
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG format-ogg/free_ogg_codecs freeing codecs
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG format-vorbis/vorbis_codec_free freeing vorbis codec
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG format-theora/theora_codec_free freeing theora codec
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_free_source freeing source "/live.ogg"
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] INFO source/source_apply_mount Applying mount information for "/black.ogg"
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings public set to 0
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings max listeners to -1
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings queue size to 524288
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings burst size to 65535
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings source timeout to 10
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG source/source_update_settings fallback_when_full to 0
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] INFO source/process_listeners listener count on /black.ogg now 1
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node outgoing_bitrate (76528)
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node incoming_bitrate (76528)
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node total_bytes_read (379167)
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node total_bytes_sent (129025)
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/modify_node_event update node listeners (0)
[2006-01-27  02:46:18] DBUG stats/process_source_event delete source node /live.ogg
-------------------------

This happened for all the three clients and the three attempts. With the
screen showing the frozen last frame of live.ogg, I also tried to cycle
pause and play, and also stop and play with no success.

I've used VLC 0.8.4 before with chained ogg theora streams and I know it
worked, but I tried other clients as you suggested...

I am pretty lost, since, with that log, it looks like being working,
right?

[]s

Pablo

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From admin at radiotoolbox.com  Sat Jan 28 12:45:54 2006
From: admin at radiotoolbox.com (Jay Krivanek)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:45:54 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Feature Requests
In-Reply-To: <000701c62075$42c0c570$1400000a@workstation>
Message-ID: <011101c62408$d925f6c0$6601a8c0@VAIO>

Steamcast allows for some control over that, just use SourceBuffUtil.

 

Next version should greatly reduce the default buffer.

 

Jay

 

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:32 PM
To: icecast
Subject: [Icecast] Feature Requests

 

Is it possible in a future version to be able to enable/disable mounts from
inside the web interface the same way steamcast does now.  

 

I love icecast but i've been looking at steamcast and I like some parts of
there web interface ie.  bandwidth usage stats for each mount and in total
for the server, and being able to enable/disable mounts. But I don't like
the delay, it has that painful shoutcast type of delay when broadcasting.


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