From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sat Jan  1 00:51:37 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:51:37 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast not streaming from playlist. (Newbie)
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F14270C5D6BFFB8FEB41523C39D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY103-F14270C5D6BFFB8FEB41523C39D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011044350.1178@data.home>

Hi:

Using your own words, yes you're missing something stupid. :)

It sounds like the streaming is working just fine.  The problem is in how 
you're launching the stream at your end.  This *is* mentioned in the docs, 
but it's not as clear as it might be so I'll mention it again (it's a 
common question).

You can't open the broadcast URL directly with your web browser directly, 
as most/all of them don't know what program should open them and some at 
least won't let you open a URL directly with another application.  So the 
way everyone does it is to use a playlist file with the URL of the stream, 
if you want to open it from a web browser.  Fortunately Icecast has 
playlist generation built-in (assuming you've set the hostname element 
correctly in the icecast config file).  You can type the following into 
your browser:

http://server:port/mountpoint.m3u

where server, port and mountpoint are replaced with the appropriate values. 
For example, if I've running Icecast on server.com on port 8000 and have a 
stream up called live.ogg, the URL would be:

http://server.com:8000/live.ogg.m3u

This will return a .M3U file with the URL of the actual stream in it, which 
your player can use to fetch the stream.

Alternatively, you can put the stream URL directly into your player's open 
location dialog box.

Hope this helps.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sat Jan  1 01:05:21 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:05:21 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>

Hi:

Not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but it looks to me that Icecast is 
thinking it's an ogg stream which might be part of your problem.
This is a fairly clunky way of streaming, surely there's something more 
conventional that can be used on OS X nowadays?  That article is 2.5 years 
old.  I'd have thought you'd be able to compile Ices or Darkice under OS X. 
Or you could try Nicecast (I've not used it but it seems to be what you 
might want) - http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/

Best of luck.

Geoff.


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From mail at dwipal.com  Sat Jan  1 01:48:59 2005
From: mail at dwipal.com (Dwipal Desai)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:48:59 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>

Hi Geoff!
Thanks for ur reply

Is there a way to tell icecast that the stream is mp3 ?

Mac OS X has another way of live streaming using Quicktime Broadcaster, 
however, i am not able to make it work with MPlayer2. It works file 
with a quicktime client. There seems to be some issues with the SDP 
files that Quicktime creates for playing the audio and mplayer. 
Nicecast is kindof exactly what i want, but its not a freeware and i 
want to try the open source stuff first.

Basically, what i have is XBMC running, and want to send the local 
audio from iBook to xbmc, which is connected to the home theater. I 
would eventually like to use FLAC for compressing the audio, so there 
is no loss of quality.

ICES is not getting compiled on OSX, am getting error:
(I have installed the icecast/libshout libraries, havent tried really 
hard to debug ices yet).

Making all in playlist
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. 
-DICES_MODULEDIR=\"/usr/local/etc/modules\" -I../../src  
-I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include  -g -pipe -pipe -fno-common 
-DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include 
  -I/System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/CORE   -g -O2 
-Wall -I/usr/local/include  -MT playlist.o -MD -MP -MF 
".deps/playlist.Tpo" -c -o playlist.o playlist.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/playlist.Tpo" ".deps/playlist.Po"; else rm -f 
".deps/playlist.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:88,
                  from playlist.c:22:
../../src/icestypes.h:38: error: parse error before "shout_t"
../../src/icestypes.h:38: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or 
union
../../src/icestypes.h:63: error: parse error before '}' token
../../src/icestypes.h:63: warning: type defaults to `int' in 
declaration of `ices_stream_t'
../../src/icestypes.h:63: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
../../src/icestypes.h:126: error: parse error before "ices_stream_t"
../../src/icestypes.h:126: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or 
union
../../src/icestypes.h:129: error: parse error before '}' token
../../src/icestypes.h:129: warning: type defaults to `int' in 
declaration of `ices_config_t'
../../src/icestypes.h:129: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:90,
                  from playlist.c:22:


Thanks !
Dwipal





On Dec 31, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

Hi:

Not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but it looks to me that Icecast 
is thinking it's an ogg stream which might be part of your problem.
This is a fairly clunky way of streaming, surely there's something more 
conventional that can be used on OS X nowadays?  That article is 2.5 
years old.  I'd have thought you'd be able to compile Ices or Darkice 
under OS X. Or you could try Nicecast (I've not used it but it seems to 
be what you might want) - http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/

Best of luck.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sat Jan  1 02:00:50 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:00:50 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
	<4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011155330.1178@data.home>

Dwipal Desai wrote:

> Is there a way to tell icecast that the stream is mp3 ?

Well, now that I look at it, example.c is the one assuming that it's 
vorbis.  You may be able to get away with changing line 51 which currently 
reads:

      if (shout_set_format(shout, SHOUT_FORMAT_VORBIS) != SHOUTERR_SUCCESS) 
{

Note that this is from the 2.0 tarball, there may be newer code, not sure. 
Anyway, editing that line may work, don't know.

Didn't know that nicecast wasn't open source, didn't look that much into 
it.

Geoff.



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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sat Jan  1 12:40:29 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:40:29 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <F4A3EE2B-5BE5-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
	<4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011155330.1178@data.home>
	<F4A3EE2B-5BE5-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501012238300.1178@data.home>

Dwipal Desai wrote:

> Thanks !
> changed the format to MP3, am getting the icecast stream now.

Excellent.  Wasn't sure if that was all that was needed, glad to see it is.

> Just realized that esound is capturing the microphone input, wanted to stream 
> the music being played by itunes (basically something like 
> hijacking+streaming the audio). This dosent come under icecast, just 
> wondering if u know of anything related.

Well, maybe Esound has some fascility for this kind of thing.  If not, 
maybe your sound hardware has the ability to capture either the wave or 
master outputs.  I've not messed with macs, only x86 machines, so am not 
sure of their capabilities.

Geoff.



From jmosen at mosen.org  Sat Jan  1 23:07:58 2005
From: jmosen at mosen.org (Jonathan Mosen)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:07:58 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility
Message-ID: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>

Hi all, I have been Shoutcasting for six years now but am looking at using
an Icecast server because of its active and ongoing development.

I have broadcasters who use Shoutcast-compatible tools so the Shoutcast
compatibility is important to me. I downloaded the latest version of Icecast
and used the supplied configuration file for Shoutcast compatibility as a
template.

I can in fact connect using the Sam Encoder in Shoutcast mode just fine to
the server, however, when anyone attempts to connect to the server using the
Shoutcast DSP plug-in, they eventually get connected to the server but
quickly get dropped with the message "connection to remote server lost".

The server is on port 9000. I've specified an arbitrary mount point name,
set a listen port at 9000 and another at 9001 which has the ShoutcastCompat
flag on.

Does anyone have any ideas? I would be happy to supply the xml file with
garbage passwords if anyone has the time to take a look.

Thanks in advance.

Jonathan Mosen
mailto:jonathan at mosen.org
ph: +64-3-373-6192
Mobile/SMS +64-21-4Mosen
Weblog: http://www.MosenExplosion.com



From karl at xiph.org  Sat Jan  1 23:50:45 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 01 Jan 2005 23:50:45 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
References: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
Message-ID: <1104623444.21713.25.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 23:07, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> Hi all, I have been Shoutcasting for six years now but am looking at using
> an Icecast server because of its active and ongoing development.
> 
> I have broadcasters who use Shoutcast-compatible tools so the Shoutcast
> compatibility is important to me. I downloaded the latest version of Icecast
> and used the supplied configuration file for Shoutcast compatibility as a
> template.
> 
> I can in fact connect using the Sam Encoder in Shoutcast mode just fine to
> the server, however, when anyone attempts to connect to the server using the
> Shoutcast DSP plug-in, they eventually get connected to the server but
> quickly get dropped with the message "connection to remote server lost".

Check what messages you see in the error.log (with log level 4) when the
shoutcast DSP client connects and then fails.  With the sam client
working while connecting in the same way, that would indicate something
like auth failing.

karl.




From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sun Jan  2 03:34:48 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:34:48 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
References: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050101213159.0334dae8@www.oddsock.org>

At 05:07 PM 1/1/2005, you wrote:
>The server is on port 9000. I've specified an arbitrary mount point name,
>set a listen port at 9000 and another at 9001 which has the ShoutcastCompat
>flag on.
make sure they are using 9000 as their port (not 9001) in the shoutcast DSP 
(yes, this is a bit confusing, but the shoutcast DSP actually connects on 
9001 when you specify 9000 as the port in the DSP - dontcha just love that 
?).  Also, do you have any other sources connected ? The default config 
only allows 2 sources, so if you are connecting more, you would want to 
bump that up...

oddsock 




From dwipal at dwipal.com  Sat Jan  1 01:47:10 2005
From: dwipal at dwipal.com (Dwipal Desai)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:47:10 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <0D511FD3-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>

Hi Geoff!
Thanks for ur reply

Is there a way to tell icecast that the stream is mp3 ?

Mac OS X has another way of live streaming using Quicktime Broadcaster, 
however, i am not able to make it work with MPlayer2. It works file 
with a quicktime client. There seems to be some issues with the SDP 
files that Quicktime creates for playing the audio and mplayer. 
Nicecast is kindof exactly what i want, but its not a freeware and i 
want to try the open source stuff first.

Basically, what i have is XBMC running, and want to send the local 
audio from iBook to xbmc, which is connected to the home theater. I 
would eventually like to use FLAC for compressing the audio, so there 
is no loss of quality.

ICES is not getting compiled on OSX, am getting error:
(I have installed the icecast/libshout libraries, havent tried really 
hard to debug ices yet).

Making all in playlist
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. 
-DICES_MODULEDIR=\"/usr/local/etc/modules\" -I../../src  
-I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include  -g -pipe -pipe -fno-common 
-DPERL_DARWIN -no-cpp-precomp -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include 
  -I/System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/CORE   -g -O2 
-Wall -I/usr/local/include  -MT playlist.o -MD -MP -MF 
".deps/playlist.Tpo" -c -o playlist.o playlist.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/playlist.Tpo" ".deps/playlist.Po"; else rm -f 
".deps/playlist.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:88,
                  from playlist.c:22:
../../src/icestypes.h:38: error: parse error before "shout_t"
../../src/icestypes.h:38: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or 
union
../../src/icestypes.h:63: error: parse error before '}' token
../../src/icestypes.h:63: warning: type defaults to `int' in 
declaration of `ices_stream_t'
../../src/icestypes.h:63: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
../../src/icestypes.h:126: error: parse error before "ices_stream_t"
../../src/icestypes.h:126: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or 
union
../../src/icestypes.h:129: error: parse error before '}' token
../../src/icestypes.h:129: warning: type defaults to `int' in 
declaration of `ices_config_t'
../../src/icestypes.h:129: warning: data definition has no type or 
storage class
In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:90,
                  from playlist.c:22:


Thanks !
Dwipal








On Dec 31, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

Hi:

Not sure if I'm reading this correctly, but it looks to me that Icecast 
is thinking it's an ogg stream which might be part of your problem.
This is a fairly clunky way of streaming, surely there's something more 
conventional that can be used on OS X nowadays?  That article is 2.5 
years old.  I'd have thought you'd be able to compile Ices or Darkice 
under OS X. Or you could try Nicecast (I've not used it but it seems to 
be what you might want) - http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/

Best of luck.

Geoff.


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From dwipal at dwipal.com  Sat Jan  1 11:11:59 2005
From: dwipal at dwipal.com (Dwipal Desai)
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 03:11:59 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011155330.1178@data.home>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
	<4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011155330.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <F4A3EE2B-5BE5-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>

Thanks !
changed the format to MP3, am getting the icecast stream now.

Just realized that esound is capturing the microphone input, wanted to 
stream the music being played by itunes (basically something like 
hijacking+streaming the audio). This dosent come under icecast, just 
wondering if u know of anything related.

Dwipal


On Dec 31, 2004, at 6:00 PM, Geoff Shang wrote:

Dwipal Desai wrote:

> Is there a way to tell icecast that the stream is mp3 ?

Well, now that I look at it, example.c is the one assuming that it's 
vorbis.  You may be able to get away with changing line 51 which 
currently reads:

      if (shout_set_format(shout, SHOUT_FORMAT_VORBIS) != 
SHOUTERR_SUCCESS) {

Note that this is from the 2.0 tarball, there may be newer code, not 
sure. Anyway, editing that line may work, don't know.

Didn't know that nicecast wasn't open source, didn't look that much 
into it.

Geoff.



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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Sun Jan  2 08:54:38 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:54:38 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] =?iso-8859-1?q?don=B4t_lose_the_listners_at_dj_changin?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?g?=
Message-ID: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>

hi together,

we using icecast 2.2.0 with suse linux 9.1 and mp3pro.
i have many problems with icecast, because im finding no way to
changing dj?s without lost a part auf our listners.
the option   <client-timeout>45</client-timeout> dosent work. now at dj
changing, icecast kick all listners, when the source diconnected.
we have test the fallback option, here the winamp users dont move back
automaticly to the main stream if the new source connected.
i found no way, to halt all our listners at the dj changing.
can you help me please ?

  

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From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 12:29:52 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 12:29:52 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?don=B4t?= lose the listners at dj
	changing
In-Reply-To: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 08:54, Carsten Henkel wrote:
> hi together,
> 
> we using icecast 2.2.0 with suse linux 9.1 and mp3pro.
> i have many problems with icecast, because im finding no way to
> changing dj?s without lost a part auf our listners.
> the option   <client-timeout>45</client-timeout> dosent work. now at dj
> changing, icecast kick all listners, when the source diconnected.
> we have test the fallback option, here the winamp users dont move back
> automaticly to the main stream if the new source connected.
> i found no way, to halt all our listners at the dj changing.
> can you help me please ?

the use of <fallback-mount> and fallback-override> in the <mount>
section is what you need for this.  If the fallback stream is connected
and is of the same format then the clients will be moved to it, and from
it (if override is set).

make sure the fallback stream is connected because if it is not then
clients would have to be dropped.  Without your xml config it's hard to
be more specific.

karl.




From mike at altrion.org  Sun Jan  2 12:50:57 2005
From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:50:57 +0000
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Icecast]_don=B4t_lose_the_listners_at_dj_cha?=
	=?ISO-8859-1?Q?nging?=
In-Reply-To: <1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
	<1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <F29421C8-5CBC-11D9-8870-000502B381CE@altrion.org>

> the use of <fallback-mount> and fallback-override> in the <mount>
> section is what you need for this.  If the fallback stream is connected
> and is of the same format then the clients will be moved to it, and 
> from
> it (if override is set).
>
> make sure the fallback stream is connected because if it is not then
> clients would have to be dropped.  Without your xml config it's hard to
> be more specific.

A potential gotcha I just discovered: iTunes is slightly confusing as 
regards its MP3 encoding bitrates: if you encode in mono, you need to 
specify the 'Stereo Encoding Bitrate" as TWICE the mono bitrate you 
want! Our mono theme music has been running at 8kbs rather than the 
16kbps I thought it was, which is why OUR fallback stream has been 
dropping every time our live feed connects.



From carsten at chatlabel.de  Sun Jan  2 13:48:02 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:48:02 +0100
Subject: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Re=3A_=5BIcecast=5D_don=B4t_lose_the_listners_at_dj_cha?=
	=?ISO-8859-15?Q?nging?=
In-Reply-To: <F29421C8-5CBC-11D9-8870-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
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Message-ID: <886133950.20050102144802@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Mike Whitaker,

Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2005 um 13:50 schrieben Sie:


>> Without your xml config it's hard to be more specific.

yes, sorry.


<icecast>
    <limits>
        <clients>50</clients>
        <sources>2</sources>
        <threadpool>20</threadpool>
        <queue-size>102400</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>45</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>30</source-timeout>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
        <source-password>jo</source-password>
        <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
        <relay-password>jojo</relay-password>

        <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
        <admin-user>bla</admin-user>
        <admin-password>blabla</admin-password>
    </authentication>

    <hostname>stream1.chatlabel.de</hostname>
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8000</port>
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8001</port>
    </listen-socket>
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/</mount-name>
        <username>bla</username>
        <password>blabla</password>
        <max-listeners>50</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.mp3</dump-file>
        <fallback-mount>/backup</fallback-mount>
    </mount>

    <fileserve>1</fileserve>

    <paths>
                <!-- basedir is only used if chroot is enabled -->
        <basedir>/usr/local/share/icecast</basedir>

        <!-- Note that if <chroot> is turned on below, these paths must both
             be relative to the new root, not the original root -->
        <logdir>/var/log/icecast</logdir>
        <webroot>/usr/local/share/icecast/web</webroot>
        <adminroot>/usr/local/share/icecast/admin</adminroot>
        <!-- <pidfile>/usr/local/share/icecast/icecast.pid</pidfile> -->

        <!-- Aliases: treat requests for 'source' path as being for 'dest' path
             May be made specific to a port or bound address using the "port"
             and "bind-address" attributes.
          -->
        <!--
        <alias source="/foo" dest="/bar"/>
          -->
    </paths>

    <logging>
        <accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
        <errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
        <loglevel>4</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
    </logging>

    <security>
        <chroot>0</chroot>
        <!--
        <changeowner>
            <user>radio</user>
            <group>users</group>
        </changeowner>
        -->
        <changeowner>
            <user>radio</user>
            <group>users</group>
        </changeowner>
    </security>
</icecast>


-- 
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
Carsten Henkel                            mailto:carsten at chatlabel.de

Wenn Du Dich mit anderen vergleichst, k?nntest Du bitter werden und Dir nichtig vorkommen, denn immer wird es jemanden geben, gr??er als Du. 

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fax.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-039

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http://radio.chatlabel.de



From greg at orban.com  Sun Jan  2 14:20:04 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 06:20:04 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Disable Burst-on-Connect
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>

I am trying to narrow-down a problem with VLC Player and I would like to 
temporarily disable burst-on-connect.  I have set this to 0, but it doesn't 
seem to disable.

<burst-on-connect>0</burst-on-connect>
<burst-size>65535</burst-size>

http://stream.orban.com:80/eval

Any ideas?

Thanks.
-greg.

__________________________________________________________________________
Greg J. Ogonowski
VP Product Development
ORBAN / CRL, Inc.
1525 Alvarado St.
San Leandro, CA  94577  USA
TEL +1 510 351-3500
FAX +1 510 351-0500
greg at orban.com
http://www.orban.com



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan  2 14:43:54 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 00:43:54 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Disable Burst-on-Connect
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030042020.1178@data.home>

Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:

> http://stream.orban.com:80/eval

Just in case anyone else decides to try this stream out, it's an AAC 
stream, not MP3.  Anyone know of an AAC player for LINux?  Maybe mplayer 
can play it with the right support.  Anyway, I don't currently have 
anything to play it with so I guess I'll leave it to those who do.

Geoff.



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From danstowell at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 15:08:33 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:08:33 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Live streaming from Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501012238300.1178@data.home>
References: <38AE6DBE-5B6F-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011058240.1178@data.home>
	<4E7C2B82-5B97-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501011155330.1178@data.home>
	<F4A3EE2B-5BE5-11D9-9D2B-000A95A31EDA@dwipal.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501012238300.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <286e6b7c050102070855a46ee8@mail.gmail.com>

Dwipal,

Nicecast is a *very* good piece of software. We used it for six months
or so to broadcast an internet radio station. Just recently we
"graduated" to Icecast/Ices for our OSX streaming, but we have no hard
feelings about paying the (very reasonable) fee for Nicecast. It's
remarkable how easy to use it is!

I compiled Ices and Icecast on my own OS X. I originally used fink to
do this, but couldn't get Ices to compile. So instead I used the
version available on darwinports, and that compiled perfectly - you
might try that.

Best,
Dan
--
http://www.flatfourradio.co.uk


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 15:09:48 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 15:09:48 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Disable Burst-on-Connect
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
Message-ID: <1104678588.22646.10.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 14:20, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> I am trying to narrow-down a problem with VLC Player and I would like to 
> temporarily disable burst-on-connect.  I have set this to 0, but it doesn't 
> seem to disable.
> 
> <burst-on-connect>0</burst-on-connect>

this is just a compatibility option for some pre 2.1 setups, the
following option is overriding it

> <burst-size>65535</burst-size>

so now it's bursting 64k, try setting this burst-size to 0 instead.

karl.




From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 15:22:12 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 15:22:12 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] =?iso-8859-2?Q?don=AEt?= lose the listners at dj
	changing
In-Reply-To: <886133950.20050102144802@chatlabel.de>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
	<1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<F29421C8-5CBC-11D9-8870-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
	<886133950.20050102144802@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <1104679332.22646.20.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 13:48, Carsten Henkel wrote:

>     <limits>
>         <clients>50</clients>
>         <sources>2</sources>

only 2 sources are allowed, so make sure you don't hit that limit.

>         <threadpool>20</threadpool>

a bit excessive really, most people can get away with 1 or 2

>     <mount>
>         <mount-name>/</mount-name>
>         <username>bla</username>
>         <password>blabla</password>
>         <max-listeners>50</max-listeners>
>         <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.mp3</dump-file>
>         <fallback-mount>/backup</fallback-mount>
>     </mount>

no override set, so just a fallback. All listeners on / will be moved to
/backup if that is active at the time the fallback occurs.  The
error.log should state any problem like /backup not connecting.

karl.




From jmosen at mosen.org  Sun Jan  2 17:38:08 2005
From: jmosen at mosen.org (Jonathan Mosen)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:38:08 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050101213159.0334dae8@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <001501c4f0f1$d5a17790$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>

Hi, yes the broadcasters are indeed connecting to 9000. I don't have any
other sources connecting. Most mysterious.

Jonathan Mosen
mailto:jonathan at mosen.org
ph: +64-3-373-6192
Mobile/SMS +64-21-4Mosen
Weblog: http://www.MosenExplosion.com

-----Original Message-----
From: oddsock [mailto:oddsock at oddsock.org] 
Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2005 4:35 p.m.
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility


At 05:07 PM 1/1/2005, you wrote:
>The server is on port 9000. I've specified an arbitrary mount point 
>name, set a listen port at 9000 and another at 9001 which has the 
>ShoutcastCompat flag on.
make sure they are using 9000 as their port (not 9001) in the shoutcast DSP 
(yes, this is a bit confusing, but the shoutcast DSP actually connects on 
9001 when you specify 9000 as the port in the DSP - dontcha just love that 
?).  Also, do you have any other sources connected ? The default config 
only allows 2 sources, so if you are connecting more, you would want to 
bump that up...

oddsock 


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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Sun Jan  2 17:57:06 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:57:06 +0100
Subject: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Re=3A_=5BIcecast=5D_don=8Et_lose_the_listners_at_dj_cha?=
	=?ISO-8859-15?Q?nging?=
In-Reply-To: <1104679332.22646.20.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
	<1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<F29421C8-5CBC-11D9-8870-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
	<886133950.20050102144802@chatlabel.de>
	<1104679332.22646.20.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <974552596.20050102185706@chatlabel.de>

Guten Abend Karl Heyes,

Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2005 um 16:22 schrieben Sie:

KH> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 13:48, Carsten Henkel wrote:

>>         c

KH> only 2 sources are allowed, so make sure you don't hit that limit.

<sources>2</sources>

>>         <threadpool>20</threadpool>

KH> a bit excessive really, most people can get away with 1 or 2

<threadpool>2</threadpool>


KH> no override set, so just a fallback. All listeners on / will be moved to
KH> /backup if that is active at the time the fallback occurs.

    <mount>
        <mount-name>/</mount-name>
        <username>source</username>
        <password>RCLRPW!</password>
        <max-listeners>50</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.mp3</dump-file>
        <fallback-mount>/backup</fallback-mount>
        <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
    </mount>

thanks, now they are movin back. but the musik is mutch to fast for
the listners behind the moving to the mainstream. when the listners are moving to the backup the speed auf
the song is right now.


have al lot og thanks.





-- 
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
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From danstowell at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 18:01:12 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:01:12 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
Message-ID: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

My icecast2 config file includes

<directory>
  <yp-url>http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
</directory>

but when I go to the oddsock YP, I can't find our stream anywhere. Am
I doing something wrong, or is something more needed in the config?

Thanks in advance. I'd also be grateful if you'd clarify which YP I
*should* be using! Does it make any difference? Is there one really
popular one? Is there one specifically for the UK?

Dan

-- 
http://www.mcld.co.uk


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 18:04:41 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 18:04:41 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?don=8Et?= lose the listners at dj
	changing
In-Reply-To: <974552596.20050102185706@chatlabel.de>
References: <1882306119.20050102095438@chatlabel.de>
	<1104668991.22646.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<F29421C8-5CBC-11D9-8870-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
	<886133950.20050102144802@chatlabel.de>
	<1104679332.22646.20.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<974552596.20050102185706@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <1104689080.22646.25.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 17:57, Carsten Henkel wrote:

> KH> no override set, so just a fallback. All listeners on / will be moved to
> KH> /backup if that is active at the time the fallback occurs.
> 
>     <mount>
>         <mount-name>/</mount-name>
>         <username>source</username>
>         <password>RCLRPW!</password>
>         <max-listeners>50</max-listeners>
>         <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.mp3</dump-file>
>         <fallback-mount>/backup</fallback-mount>
>         <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
>     </mount>
> 
> thanks, now they are movin back. but the musik is mutch to fast for
> the listners behind the moving to the mainstream. when the listners are moving to the backup the speed auf
> the song is right now.

If the audio is playing too fast then that would indicate that the
backup stream has different parameters to the stream it came from. A
common problem is if the main stream is 44100 hz and the backup is 22050
hz, or stereo falling back to mono. Some player/drivers just don't
handle the change in those settings midstream, causing effects like what
you are describing.

karl.




From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 18:16:01 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 18:16:01 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
In-Reply-To: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1104689760.22646.37.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 18:01, Dan Stowell wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My icecast2 config file includes
> 
> <directory>
>   <yp-url>http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
> </directory>

> but when I go to the oddsock YP, I can't find our stream anywhere. Am
> I doing something wrong, or is something more needed in the config?

The first thing to check is the error.log, that will log any attempts to
list on the provided YP servers. If YP has not been compiled in then you
should see a log message about that as well.

> Thanks in advance. I'd also be grateful if you'd clarify which YP I
> *should* be using! Does it make any difference? Is there one really
> popular one? Is there one specifically for the UK?

You can use whichever YP server you want, we list the main ones in the
example files. dir.xiph.org is the icecast directory though.

There is no geographically specific YP afaik, but that doesn't stop you
from setting one up.


karl.




From danstowell at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 19:42:27 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:42:27 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
In-Reply-To: <1104689760.22646.37.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1104689760.22646.37.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <286e6b7c050102114268ea2623@mail.gmail.com>

On 02 Jan 2005 18:16:01 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 18:01, Dan Stowell wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My icecast2 config file includes
> >
> > <directory>
> >   <yp-url>http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
> > </directory>
> 
> > but when I go to the oddsock YP, I can't find our stream anywhere. Am
> > I doing something wrong, or is something more needed in the config?
> 
> The first thing to check is the error.log, that will log any attempts to
> list on the provided YP servers. If YP has not been compiled in then you
> should see a log message about that as well.

No messages about either of those. I didn't set a value for
<yp-url-timeout>, could that be an issue?

By the way, I noticed a typo in the documentation for this. In
http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.2.0/icecast2_yp.html, the XML
example omits the slashes from all three of the closing tags. Is it
enough for me to mention it here, or should I tell someone else?

Thanks
Dan

-- 
http://www.mcld.co.uk


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan  2 21:42:29 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 07:42:29 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
In-Reply-To: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030741280.1178@data.home>

Hi:

It's possible that your source is not wanting to be published, so check 
that.  I don't know what the default state is if the source doesn't supply 
a preference.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan  2 21:48:58 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 07:48:58 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Help! I have a question about configuration of icecast
	and oddcast
In-Reply-To: <BAY24-F375FC02BD98CC1A6F7DC7BCA9B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY24-F375FC02BD98CC1A6F7DC7BCA9B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030743370.1178@data.home>

All al wrote:

> Hey,
> I want to broadcast my music with the p2p program, but I in the processing to 
> configuring my utilities such oddcast. I am behind a router and when I try to 
> connect
> Oddcast I keep getting the message ?unable to connect to socket?. What the 
> heck does that mean? I think it has to do something with UDP and TCP, but I 
> don?t know which one to choose when I?m port forwarding it from my router.

You'd want TCP for this.

> Also should I use ?localhost? or the router IP address in the icecast.xml 
> file, which would then be directed to my laptop. Please help, I want to share 
> my music so badly, and will try anything!!!!!

I think you'd use your router address.

> Please give me instructions on it, from the ?what to do if you are behind the 
> router point of view?.

I think it would be easier for us to explain this if you could give us more 
detail about your setup and what it is you're trying to do.

Geoff.




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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan  2 21:52:33 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 07:52:33 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
References: <000b01c4f056$beac40b0$0201a8c0@chch.pulsedata.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030749320.1178@data.home>

Jonathan Mosen wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas? I would be happy to supply the xml file with
> garbage passwords if anyone has the time to take a look.

Sure, I'll take a look.  As Karl suggested, the error log with logging set 
to 4 will probably be the most useful thing you can supply, but I'm happy 
to look at your config as well.

I've not actually tried this feature, but I've been meaning to so this 
might provide the needed excuse.

Geoff.



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From richman789 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  2 21:55:20 2005
From: richman789 at gmail.com (Richman)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:55:20 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Help! I have a question about configuration of icecast
	and oddcast
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030743370.1178@data.home>
References: <BAY24-F375FC02BD98CC1A6F7DC7BCA9B0@phx.gbl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501030743370.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <3c109b2b05010213553e392552@mail.gmail.com>

if your behind a router and ppl are going to be connecting to your pc
from outside your network your going to have to forward the port that
icecast is using to the ip of the computer with the music on, this
will then allow ppl to access that computer using that port, all other
methods of access with be blocked.

To find out how to do this refer to your routers manual :) it should
have all the information you need on getting the port opened.

On the other hand if you have ppl witin the network who wish to conect
to the pc on the same network then by default i belive the router will
allow ips on your network to talk to eachother. As said above for more
information on these topics refer to your routers manual.

I hope this has helped. But if i have gone off the scale and you need
something explaining please dont be afraid to ask ;)

Rich


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan  2 22:58:30 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Jan 2005 22:58:30 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
In-Reply-To: <286e6b7c050102114268ea2623@mail.gmail.com>
References: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1104689760.22646.37.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<286e6b7c050102114268ea2623@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1104706709.22646.48.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 19:42, Dan Stowell wrote:

> No messages about either of those. I didn't set a value for
> <yp-url-timeout>, could that be an issue?

you should get some messages, either yp disabled, or YP thread started
at least, then adding YP server.

The timeout for each server is logged when the YP server details are
added to the active server list.  If you don't see the log message

"Adding new YP server ....."

then the YP server details are not being used, the usual cause of this
is that it's commented out.

> By the way, I noticed a typo in the documentation for this. In
> http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.2.0/icecast2_yp.html, the XML
> example omits the slashes from all three of the closing tags. Is it
> enough for me to mention it here, or should I tell someone else?

the website looks to be in transition at the moment, I can't checked the
docs, but those look to be missing from the docs in the tree so I'll fix
that up

karl.




From grahampople at hotmail.com  Sun Jan  2 23:57:23 2005
From: grahampople at hotmail.com (Graham Pople)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:57:23 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] OpenSource Nicecast project - anyone interested?
Message-ID: <BAY101-F199E290DCEBFA24C4C2A2DB99F0@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

I'm a newcomer to this list, but I thought people may be interested in my 
current project, an open-source equivalent of Nicecast.  It's intended to 
let you stream live audio over your home network, and is currently working 
nicely between my Powerbook and Linux PC.  It works by using the Soundflower 
dummy audio driver to grab all audio from the Powerbook, then my program 
uses CoreAudio to record and convert this to PCM, before sending it to 
ices2, which encodes the stream to Vorbis and sends this to my local icecast 
server.  I want to streamline this whole process further, hopefully removing 
Soundflower and ices2 from the equation.

It's really hacky code at the moment, as it started life as a simple utility 
for my own purposes,  but it seems that other people may want to do the same 
thing.  This is really just a quick poll to see if enough people are 
interested to make it worth setting up a website and CVS access for the 
project, so please let me know if you are.

Cheers,

Graham




From Dennis at Heerema.net  Mon Jan  3 00:00:22 2005
From: Dennis at Heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 01:00:22 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] yp dir
Message-ID: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>

Hi All,

Maybe a strange question, is there any info or maybe even an template 
for setting up an yp directory!
The idea to set one up for local purpuses like: espescially dutch 
languages would be nice!
Maybe an extra setting in the stream clients to also give in the 
language and maybe even country of orgin of the content could be any 
help with that, could be a nice extra search option too for the current 
YP dir's.

regards,

Dennis



From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan  3 00:58:59 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 03 Jan 2005 00:58:59 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Ices and ALSA / OSS
In-Reply-To: <1104366669.14654.8.camel@flashpoint.lakeside.weej.net>
References: <1104366669.14654.8.camel@flashpoint.lakeside.weej.net>
Message-ID: <1104713938.22646.64.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 00:31, Alex Jones wrote:
> Hello Karl
> 
> In reference to:
> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2004-June/007473.html
> 
> I am also receiving this error with an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 device
> running with the ice1712 ALSA module. I've not quite figured out how to
> test it with a hw pcm because it isn't accepting any of my formats. I've
> no idea how ALSA's plug opens it but I've tried all the obvious ones,
> (2x96000xS24_LE, 2x44100xS16_LE included) but I'm at a loss. However,
> this period thing is preventing me from being able to use my card with
> ices.

the period setting is now optional in the svn ices 2 code, however 16
bit is a fixed setting currently. You can either get it from svn or wait
until I do a 2.0.1 release.

> If it's any help and in case you don't already know, the card is 24 bit
> and 96000 Hz by default.

the samplerate should not be a problem when reading from alsa, although
you'll probably want to resample it for streaming. 

karl.




From grahampople at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  3 04:20:19 2005
From: grahampople at hotmail.com (Graham Pople)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 04:20:19 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] soundtap - a solution for broadcasting iTunes on Mac OS X
Message-ID: <BAY101-F377312395D5AC03E192D1B9900@phx.gbl>

Hi,

There seems to be some interest in a solution that lets you broadcast iTunes 
output to other computers (thanks for the response Dwipal!), so I've setup a 
page for a project that does just that at

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/stoinkydance/

It uses Soundflower to grab the iTunes audio (though Jack may work too), 
then my tool soundtap converts this to a suitable PCM format, and then pipes 
it to ices2.  ices2 converts it to Vorbis and sends it to my local icecast 
server, which can then broadcast over the network.

It's all a bit complicated and kludge-tastic at the moment, and I'd like to 
turn it into something much closer to Nicecast (but free!).  All help, 
ideas, and comments appreciated, please visit the site, download the tool, 
and see what you think.  Apologies for the code by the way, it was knocked 
up pretty quickly.

Cheers,

Graham




From greg at orban.com  Mon Jan  3 05:01:01 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:01:01 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Disable Burst-on-Connect
In-Reply-To: <1104678588.22646.10.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
	<1104678588.22646.10.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102210001.1282d210@66.220.31.130>

Thanks Karl-

Setting the burst-size to 0 does indeed disable Burst-on-Connect.

FYI:  I have verified that disabling Burst-on-Connect allows VLC Player to 
play Icecast2 streams.
I am notifying the VLC developers of this, so hopefully they can support 
Burst-on-Connect Icecast2 streams.  SHOUTcast burst seems to work just 
fine, so maybe it won't be such a big problem to fix.  Any other 
information on this might be helpful for me to pass on to the VLC 
developers, if available.

What is the purpose of <burst-on-connect>, if <burst-size> overrides and 
actually enables/disables?

Thanks again.
-greg.


At 07:09 2005-01-02, Karl Heyes wrote:
>On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 14:20, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> > I am trying to narrow-down a problem with VLC Player and I would like to
> > temporarily disable burst-on-connect.  I have set this to 0, but it 
> doesn't
> > seem to disable.
> >
> > <burst-on-connect>0</burst-on-connect>
>
>this is just a compatibility option for some pre 2.1 setups, the
>following option is overriding it
>
> > <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
>
>so now it's bursting 64k, try setting this burst-size to 0 instead.
>
>karl.


__________________________________________________________________________
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VP Product Development
ORBAN / CRL, Inc.
1525 Alvarado St.
San Leandro, CA  94577  USA
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FAX +1 510 351-0500
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Mon Jan  3 05:26:19 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:26:19 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] yp dir
In-Reply-To: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
References: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501031523020.1178@data.home>

Dennis Heerema wrote:

> Maybe a strange question, is there any info or maybe even an template for 
> setting up an yp directory!

There used to be a spec for the protocol used, somewhere on oddsock.org, 
but I don't know where it is these days.

For what it's worth, you can download the sources for the YP directory 
CGI script at http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/icecast2yp/

This code doesn't seem to include the frontend though (i.e. the user 
interface).

Geoff.



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From danstowell at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 12:23:02 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:23:02 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] YP listings - how, why, where...
In-Reply-To: <1104706709.22646.48.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <286e6b7c05010210015c5abebd@mail.gmail.com>
	<1104689760.22646.37.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<286e6b7c050102114268ea2623@mail.gmail.com>
	<1104706709.22646.48.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <286e6b7c050103042374e0fb46@mail.gmail.com>

On 02 Jan 2005 22:58:30 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 19:42, Dan Stowell wrote:
> 
> > No messages about either of those. I didn't set a value for
> > <yp-url-timeout>, could that be an issue?
> 
> you should get some messages, either yp disabled, or YP thread started
> at least, then adding YP server.

Strange, no, I don't. The command

  cat icecast2error.log | grep -i yp

gets me nothing except a list of "No content type header, so assuming
mp3" messages (note the "yp" in the middle of "type"...).


> The timeout for each server is logged when the YP server details are
> added to the active server list.  If you don't see the log message
> 
> "Adding new YP server ....."
> 
> then the YP server details are not being used, the usual cause of this
> is that it's commented out.

Hmm, it's not commented out.

Dan


From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan  3 13:32:08 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 03 Jan 2005 13:32:08 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Disable Burst-on-Connect
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102210001.1282d210@66.220.31.130>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050102061045.12735aa8@66.220.31.130>
	<1104678588.22646.10.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20050102210001.1282d210@66.220.31.130>
Message-ID: <1104759128.25000.18.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 05:01, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> Thanks Karl-
> 
> Setting the burst-size to 0 does indeed disable Burst-on-Connect.
> 
> FYI:  I have verified that disabling Burst-on-Connect allows VLC Player to 
> play Icecast2 streams.

The burst only affects the listener, vlc should not have an issue with
this but I have noticed that vlc has resampling kicking in midstream,
but that isn't icecast specific.

> What is the purpose of <burst-on-connect>, if <burst-size> overrides and 
> actually enables/disables?

burst-on-connect was an option that was used originally in trunk (pre
2.1) for this sort of thing, but was only a enabled/disabled option. It
was left in and made to select 64k or 0 for burst-size, for people who
had used that option before the release came out.  It could be dropped
now, as burst-size is more flexible and can be used per mount.

karl.




From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan  3 13:46:59 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 03 Jan 2005 13:46:59 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] yp dir
In-Reply-To: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
References: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
Message-ID: <1104760019.25000.32.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 00:00, Dennis Heerema wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Maybe a strange question, is there any info or maybe even an template 
> for setting up an yp directory!
> The idea to set one up for local purpuses like: espescially dutch 
> languages would be nice!
> Maybe an extra setting in the stream clients to also give in the 
> language and maybe even country of orgin of the content could be any 
> help with that, could be a nice extra search option too for the current 
> YP dir's.

The YP spec can be added to without problem, the question is in what way
is best.  We could allow an optional tag to be sent to the YP server
which could contain extra information originating from the source
client. That information could be free format so it would be up to the
YP server to process it, however nothing like this has been decided on
yet.

karl.




From wb8erj at hotmail.com  Mon Jan  3 14:06:00 2005
From: wb8erj at hotmail.com (M T)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 09:06:00 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast RPM for Fedora Core 3
In-Reply-To: <41D7B1C2.504@levillage.org>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F983DC3D6CCC6C0BCD79F49F900@phx.gbl>

Pierre,

Thank you for the link. I installed your RPM on my Fedora core 3 PC, and it 
installed flawlessly.

Thank you for all of your hard work!

    -- Mike


     WVMC FM
Mansfield, Ashland, Willard, Ohio
  http://www.wvmcfm.com




>From: Pierre-Emmanuel Muller <pem at levillage.org>
>To: M T <wb8erj at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Icecast] Icecast RPM for Fedora Core 3
>Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:33:06 +0100
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>I'm not sure to understand your question but here is my RPM for Fedora Core 
>3:
>http://pem.levillage.org/icecast-2.2.0-1.i386.rpm
>As the download version is only for FC1.
>
>PeM
>
>M T a ?crit :
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I would love to help out! I have downloaded your rpm on to my freshly 
>>installed Fedora core 3 machine.
>>
>>I do have some questions though, I was wondering if you coule please email 
>>me direct. Once I get things straightend out, I will gladly post on the 
>>list..
>>
>>           -- Mike
>>
>>     WVMC FM
>>Mansfield, Ashland, Willard, Ohio
>>  http://www.wvmcfm.com
>>
>




From Dennis at Heerema.net  Mon Jan  3 16:32:15 2005
From: Dennis at Heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:32:15 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] yp dir
In-Reply-To: <1104760019.25000.32.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
	<1104760019.25000.32.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <41D9738F.5070802@Heerema.net>

Karl Heyes schreef:

>On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 00:00, Dennis Heerema wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Maybe a strange question, is there any info or maybe even an template 
>>for setting up an yp directory!
>>The idea to set one up for local purpuses like: espescially dutch 
>>languages would be nice!
>>Maybe an extra setting in the stream clients to also give in the 
>>language and maybe even country of orgin of the content could be any 
>>help with that, could be a nice extra search option too for the current 
>>YP dir's.
>>    
>>
>
>The YP spec can be added to without problem, the question is in what way
>is best.  We could allow an optional tag to be sent to the YP server
>which could contain extra information originating from the source
>client. That information could be free format so it would be up to the
>YP server to process it, however nothing like this has been decided on
>yet.
>
>karl.
>
>
>  
>
Freeformat could be ok, but then again, this could be misused, should be 
nice if this could be language / countrycodes only, like NL for dutch or 
DE German...

And yes it should be comming from the sourceclient, because server 
services are not always in the same country as the source is.

Regards,

Dennis



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan  3 16:50:11 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 10:50:11 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] yp dir
In-Reply-To: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
References: <41D88B16.4010406@Heerema.net>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050103104523.03389358@www.oddsock.org>

At 06:00 PM 1/2/2005, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Maybe a strange question, is there any info or maybe even an template for 
>setting up an yp directory!
>The idea to set one up for local purpuses like: espescially dutch 
>languages would be nice!
>Maybe an extra setting in the stream clients to also give in the language 
>and maybe even country of orgin of the content could be any help with 
>that, could be a nice extra search option too for the current YP dir's.

The YP Spec is posted here : http://www.icecast.org/spec.php
The SVN location for the CGI portion of the YP is here : 
http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/icecast2yp/
The SVN location of the Front end portion of the YP is here : 
http://svn.xiph.org/websites/dir.xiph.org/

note that the CGI and front end portions of the YP are provided for 
reference only, and are not an official distribution so there isn't much 
documentation about it (outside of the spec) and we don't really support 
it.  However, it IS the code that we use at dir.xiph.org.

oddsock
oddsock 




From jnagyjr at joseph-a-nagy-jr.us  Tue Jan  4 00:44:16 2005
From: jnagyjr at joseph-a-nagy-jr.us (Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:44:16 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ices segmentation fault
Message-ID: <20050104004416.GA11738@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>

I'm sure my config.xml for ices is completely wrong, so I'm hoping you guys
can help me. I'm attaching the file and hopefully you folks can tell me
what's wrong. I've been trying to follow the online documentation with no
luck.
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-------------- next part --------------
<?xml version="1.0"?>
    <ices>
     <background>0</background>
     <logpath>/home/jnagyjr/logs/icecast</logpath>
     <logfile>ices.log</logfile>
     <logsize>2048</logsize>
     <loglevel>3</loglevel>
     <consolelog>0</consolelog>
     <pidfile>/var/log/ices/ices.pid</pidfile>
     <stream>
        <metadata>
         <name>Joseph A Nagy Jr Radio Show</name>
         <genre>Various</genre>
         <description>Rants, raves, thoughts and good music for 8 hours</description>
         <url>http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us</url>
        </metadata>
         Input
        <instance>
         127.0.0.1
         8008
         source/Sex is good.
        <module>alsa</module>
        <param name="rate">44100</param>
        <param name="channels">2</param>
	<param name="device">/dev/dsp</param>
        <param name="buffer-time">500</param>
        <param name="metadata">0</param>
        <param name="type">basic</param>
        <param name="file">/home/jnagyjr/dreatmtime-01.m3u</param>
        <param name="random">0</param>
        <param name="once">0</param>
        <param name="restart-after-reread">1</param>
        </instance>
     </stream>
    </ices>
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From gmane at niemueller.de  Tue Jan  4 12:55:23 2005
From: gmane at niemueller.de (Tim Niemueller)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:55:23 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Synchronous playback on multiple clients
Message-ID: <cre3nr$8s8$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hi icecast community.

Has anybody tried (and found a way) to have synchronous playback on 
multiple clients? We have a couple of rooms and it would be nice to be 
able to have one central server that you can throws files at that should 
be played and then listen to this stream in all rooms. We have machines 
in most of the rooms which would then play the stream. The problem right 
now is that the streams always have an offset of about 1/2 to 1 second. 
This is pretty annoying as you can imagine.. I haved tried xmms as a 
client and played a bit with the buffer but without success. Did 
somebody already do that? If so how? Is it possible with icecast? 
Problem on the client side (if so any client known that can do this)?

Thanks,
	Tim

-- 
     Tim Niemueller <tim at niemueller.de>      www.niemueller.de
=================================================================
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From k.j.wierenga at home.nl  Tue Jan  4 13:53:56 2005
From: k.j.wierenga at home.nl (Klaas Jan Wierenga)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:53:56 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported by Winamp 5
	and WMP 10?
Message-ID: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKKEHCGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>

Hi,

I was just checking out icecast-2.2.0. You guys have done a great job yet
again!

I was interested in the range support / stream seeking on static files,
since that would be a really useful feature for my clients.

Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not
with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in
those two players also?

Cheers,
Klaas Jan

k.j.wierenga at home.nl



From nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jan  4 14:11:26 2005
From: nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de (Joern Nettingsmeier)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:11:26 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] XML parsing error I can't find
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0412311015240.1178@data.home>
References: <1104390504.649.30.camel@ngeza>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0412311015240.1178@data.home>
Message-ID: <41DAA40E.6000701@folkwang-hochschule.de>

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Can't see any problems.  The only thing I can think of is maybe your 
> actual config file has some funky passwords in it that the XML parser 
> doesn't like.  Have you tried parsing the file exactly as you sent it to 
> us?

more specifically, do your passwords contain any of "&><" ?
if so, you will need to mask them as "&amp;", "&gt;" or "&lt;"...

how i know this? weeeeellllllllllllll.. :-D



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Tue Jan  4 14:27:48 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:27:48 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported by
	Winamp 5 and WMP 10?
In-Reply-To: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKKEHCGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>
References: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKKEHCGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104082235.032e4700@www.oddsock.org>

At 07:53 AM 1/4/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I was just checking out icecast-2.2.0. You guys have done a great job yet
>again!
>
>I was interested in the range support / stream seeking on static files,
>since that would be a really useful feature for my clients.
>
>Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not
>with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
>Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in
>those two players also?

hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10.  What type of file are 
you testing with ?  The winamp plugin doesn't work perfectly in some cases 
(it gets a bit confused sometimes with VBR files), WMP 10 works perfectly 
however.  Do you get a seek bar in winamp/WMP when playing on demand 
(static files) ?

oddsock




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan  4 15:12:00 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:12:00 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Synchronous playback on multiple clients
In-Reply-To: <cre3nr$8s8$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <cre3nr$8s8$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501050107590.3586@data.home>

Hi:

This question gets asked every few months or so.

The short answer is no.  Icecast's HTTP streaming is not really designed 
for this, it simply goes from start to end as it gets it.

Having said that, it should be possible in theory to use the ogg layer and 
some synchronising code to keep players in step with each other, but I've 
not heard of anyone doing this.  Note that I'm not a developer, I'm just 
thinking about the kinds of things the ogg layer offers and I'd think that 
the time offsets available would make this possible.  But all the decoders 
would have to be able to sync to a master decoder so that they could keep 
in step with it.

Of course the real simple answer to this would be to have only one decoder 
and run audio cables or use a transmitter to get the sound to the various 
rooms.

Geoff.


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From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan  4 17:46:58 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 04 Jan 2005 17:46:58 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] ices segmentation fault
In-Reply-To: <20050104004416.GA11738@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
References: <20050104004416.GA11738@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
Message-ID: <1104860817.15506.25.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

you really need to fix the XML as that is not going to work, but I've
tracked down the cause of the segv and committed a fix for 2.0.1

karl.




From jnagyjr at joseph-a-nagy-jr.us  Tue Jan  4 17:48:39 2005
From: jnagyjr at joseph-a-nagy-jr.us (Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:48:39 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ices segmentation fault
In-Reply-To: <1104860817.15506.25.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <20050104004416.GA11738@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
	<1104860817.15506.25.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <20050104174839.GD11756@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>

On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 05:46:58PM +0000, Karl Heyes wrote the following:
> you really need to fix the XML as that is not going to work, but I've
> tracked down the cause of the segv and committed a fix for 2.0.1
> 
> karl.

I've updated the xml and it still does not work.

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From k.j.wierenga at home.nl  Tue Jan  4 17:58:17 2005
From: k.j.wierenga at home.nl (Klaas Jan Wierenga)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:58:17 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported byWinamp 5
	and WMP 10?
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104082235.032e4700@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKOEHDGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>


Thanks for your response oddcast.

> >Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not
> >with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
> >Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in
> >those two players also?

> hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10.  What type of file are
> you testing with ?  The winamp plugin doesn't work perfectly in some cases
> (it gets a bit confused sometimes with VBR files), WMP 10 works perfectly
> however.  Do you get a seek bar in winamp/WMP when playing on demand
> (static files) ?

The file is not VBR, it is 24kbs 16kHz, mono mp3 file. It may be available
at http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3

Ok, I've found part of the problem. I'm using the THOMSON mp3PRO Decoder
v1.2 plugin on Winamp 5.05. It appears that this plug-in doesn't support
stream seeking. After disabling the mp3PRO plugin, it worked like a charm in
Winamp 5.05 (now using the Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder 3.04).

WMP 10 works sort-of. When I open the URL mentioned above, WMP 10 simple
downloads the complete file in the background while starting to play
immediately. However, you can only seek in the part that has already been
downloaded.

I've tried both the direct link to the file and the .m3u version:
http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3.m3u

Any hints are welcome..

Cheers,
KJ

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Verzonden: dinsdag 4 januari 2005 15:28
Aan: icecast at xiph.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported
byWinamp 5 and WMP 10?


At 07:53 AM 1/4/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I was just checking out icecast-2.2.0. You guys have done a great job yet
>again!
>
>I was interested in the range support / stream seeking on static files,
>since that would be a really useful feature for my clients.
>
>Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not
>with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
>Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in
>those two players also?

hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10.  What type of file are
you testing with ?  The winamp plugin doesn't work perfectly in some cases
(it gets a bit confused sometimes with VBR files), WMP 10 works perfectly
however.  Do you get a seek bar in winamp/WMP when playing on demand
(static files) ?

oddsock


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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Tue Jan  4 18:18:21 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:18:21 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported
	byWinamp 5 and WMP 10?
In-Reply-To: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKOEHDGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>
References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104082235.032e4700@www.oddsock.org>
	<IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKOEHDGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104121543.03307410@www.oddsock.org>

At 11:58 AM 1/4/2005, you wrote:

>The file is not VBR, it is 24kbs 16kHz, mono mp3 file. It may be available
>at http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3
>
>Ok, I've found part of the problem. I'm using the THOMSON mp3PRO Decoder
>v1.2 plugin on Winamp 5.05. It appears that this plug-in doesn't support
>stream seeking. After disabling the mp3PRO plugin, it worked like a charm in
>Winamp 5.05 (now using the Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder 3.04).
>
>WMP 10 works sort-of. When I open the URL mentioned above, WMP 10 simple
>downloads the complete file in the background while starting to play
>immediately. However, you can only seek in the part that has already been
>downloaded.

well, looks like you are at the mercy of the media player 
implementation.  Looks like winamp does do proper range seeking, but WMP 
does not.  Although the term "proper range seeking" is a subjective 
term.  From an icecast point of view, we are implementing it properly.

oddsock 




From k.j.wierenga at home.nl  Tue Jan  4 18:22:36 2005
From: k.j.wierenga at home.nl (Klaas Jan Wierenga)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supportedbyWinamp 5
	and WMP 10?
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104121543.03307410@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <IPEHLPFNBAINJOFBPOBKKEHEGBAA.k.j.wierenga@home.nl>



> well, looks like you are at the mercy of the media player 
> implementation.  Looks like winamp does do proper range seeking, but WMP 
> does not.  Although the term "proper range seeking" is a subjective 
> term.  From an icecast point of view, we are implementing it properly.

I agree with you totally. Icecast is doing a good job.
I'll gladly advise my clients to use Winamp instead of WMP :-)

Thanks for your help.

KJ


From Vu.Nguyen at uth.tmc.edu  Tue Jan  4 20:35:12 2005
From: Vu.Nguyen at uth.tmc.edu (Nguyen, Vu)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:35:12 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Shout Multiple Mount Problem
Message-ID: <0804ED73C43CA34091B68BFFE8F31C053488D4@UTHEVS3.mail.uthouston.edu>

Hello,
 
I am running Icecast (v 1.3.12) and Shout on a Mandrake machine.  I run
Shout twice on 2 different mounts.  I check and see that there are 2
Shout processes running.  However, I can only listen to the content on
the first mount (default mount) even if I type in the url for the second
mount.
 
I don't know what other information I can provide here.
 
Thank you.
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Tue Jan  4 20:45:09 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:45:09 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Shout Multiple Mount Problem
In-Reply-To: <0804ED73C43CA34091B68BFFE8F31C053488D4@UTHEVS3.mail.uthous
	ton.edu>
References: <0804ED73C43CA34091B68BFFE8F31C053488D4@UTHEVS3.mail.uthouston.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050104144414.032d9530@www.oddsock.org>

At 02:35 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am running Icecast (v 1.3.12) and Shout on a Mandrake machine.  I run 
>Shout twice on 2 different mounts.  I check and see that there are 2 Shout 
>processes running.  However, I can only listen to the content on the first 
>mount (default mount) even if I type in the url for the second mount.
>
>I don't know what other information I can provide here.

we don't support either icecast 1.x or shout any longer, please use icecast 
2.2.0 and a supported 3rd party source client...

oddsock




From ml at imux.net  Wed Jan  5 01:56:16 2005
From: ml at imux.net (mlmeber)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 01:56:16 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Liveice startup error message..
In-Reply-To: <20041229034554.GA2194@watanabe.local>
References: <BAY101-F5925AF9FB8021715B97079F9B0@phx.gbl>
	<20041229034554.GA2194@watanabe.local>
Message-ID: <41DB4940.3050408@imux.net>

Brendan Cully wrote:

> On Tuesday, 28 December 2004 at 22:37, M T wrote:
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have been trying to use liveice with icecast to stream live audio. I am 
>>getting an error message that I can't seem to find an answer to. FIrst of 
>>all, I start Icecast (Version 2.2.0) and it seems to come up fine.Then I 
>>start liveice, and I get the following error message:
>>
>>liveice -c /usr/local/bin/liveice.conf
>>0
>>Initialising Soundcard
>>16Bit 22050Hz
>>opening connection to localhost 8000
>>Attempting to Contact Server
>>connection successful: forking process
>>server didn't send OK response
> 
> ...
> 
>> >>> liveice configuration file:
> 
> ...
> 
>>X_AUDIOCAST_LOGIN
>># ICY_LOGIN
> 
> ...
> 
> This is most likely your problem. X_AUDIOCAST is the icecast 1
> protocol, and it's not supported in v2. I don't use liveice, so I
> don't know what you should replace it with - see the docs. My guess
> is something like HTTP_LOGIN.

It is HTTP_LOGON and you need the latest version from http://liveice.sf.net/

Stephen
Liveice Project



From ross at stationplaylist.com  Wed Jan  5 04:54:34 2005
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:54:34 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Darwin Server
Message-ID: <063501c4f2e2$a6e172a0$4300a8c0@levis3>

This may be slightly off-topic but I'm trying to find out information about 
the Darwin Streaming Server and what it may be compatible with, as far as 
stream encoder formats.  I saw this mentioned in an update.

MP3 Streaming: You can serve standard MP3 files using Icecast-compatible 
protocols over http. Build a playlist of MP3 files and serve them to MP3 
clients such as iTunes, SoundJam and WinAmp for a simulated live experience.

Does this mean that Icecast compatible stream encoders, such as Oddcast, can 
to connect to it?  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ross Levis. 



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From greg at orban.com  Wed Jan  5 08:06:11 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:06:11 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Darwin Server
In-Reply-To: <063501c4f2e2$a6e172a0$4300a8c0@levis3>
References: <063501c4f2e2$a6e172a0$4300a8c0@levis3>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050104235926.03e7c880@66.220.31.130>

Hello Ross-

We have considerable experience with this server, as we also develop for 
the RTSP/RTP portion of Darwin.

We have also had several problems with this implementation of Icecast1, 
especially with live streaming, not to mention that it is basically 
administratively featureless, and not updated.  We have not been able to 
successfully live stream using this server without audio glitches using a 
number of live encoder sources, including those we've developed.

The server only seems to work OK using the built-in playlist function to 
stream MP3 files.

I don't mean to speak for everyone here, but I think the answer is going to 
be to move on and use Icecast2 server.  If anyone has a better answer, I 
too would be interested in it.

-greg.




At 20:54 2005-01-04, Ross Levis wrote:
>This may be slightly off-topic but I'm trying to find out information 
>about the Darwin Streaming Server and what it may be compatible with, as 
>far as stream encoder formats.  I saw this mentioned in an update.
>
>MP3 Streaming: You can serve standard MP3 files using Icecast-compatible 
>protocols over http. Build a playlist of MP3 files and serve them to MP3 
>clients such as iTunes, SoundJam and WinAmp for a simulated live experience.
>
>Does this mean that Icecast compatible stream encoders, such as Oddcast, 
>can to connect to it?  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Ross Levis.
>
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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Wed Jan  5 18:46:23 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] eztream broken pipe
Message-ID: <41DC35FF.30009@ncsu.edu>

I discovered an interesting problem with ezstream.  I'm using version 
1.2.  I see 2 is listed on the website but appears to be a broken link. 
  Otherwise I'd try it to see if it exhibits the same problem.

I'm using ezstream as a fallback mount for a radio station.  It plays a 
30 second ogg file over and over.  The ogg file is just a 5 second 
message with 25 seconds of silence saying that the station is out of 
service.  If the 25 seconds of silence is pure digital silence, then 
ezstream will play it once the whole way through, but as soon as it 
lists that it is streaming it a second time it gives a "Broken Pipe" 
message and exits.  During the silence, the ogg bitrate drops to nothing 
because it is pure silence.  Winamp report 1 kbps.  If, however, the 
silence is -90 dB white noise, then ezstream continues to repeat the 
stream, and Winamp reports 87 kbps bitrate.

It's interest to note that an mp3 stream doesn't exhibit this problem, 
but I presume this has to do with the fact that the mp3 stream never 
drops the bitrate to 1 kbps.

I can definitely get around this problem using the -90 dB white noise, 
but nonetheless, this seems like a potential bug in ezstream that might 
warrant a look.  Perhaps it's fixed in 2.0.

Also, if anyone has a better recommendation for setting up a backup 
stream for use when the main stream is down, I'd be interested.  This 
seemed like the simplest method to me.

Thanks,
Joel


From jdpete at srt.com  Thu Jan  6 18:25:26 2005
From: jdpete at srt.com (JD Peterson)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:25:26 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication
Message-ID: <000801c4f41d$18013de0$1e01a8c0@jeff>

Hi,
Can anyone help me get listener authentication to work in icecast 2.2? An example config file would be great, as well as any information. I am using .ogg for streaming.
Thanks,
Jeff
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan  6 18:49:51 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:49:51 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication
In-Reply-To: <000801c4f41d$18013de0$1e01a8c0@jeff>
References: <000801c4f41d$18013de0$1e01a8c0@jeff>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050106124839.03534998@www.oddsock.org>

At 12:25 PM 1/6/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Can anyone help me get listener authentication to work in icecast 2.2? An 
>example config file would be great, as well as any information. I am using 
>.ogg for streaming.
>Thanks,
>Jeff

did you check the docs ? 
http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.2.0/icecast2_listenerauth.html

I think it explains it pretty well...

oddsock 




From klaus at trillke.net  Fri Jan  7 00:08:15 2005
From: klaus at trillke.net (klaus thorn)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:08:15 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ices config problems
Message-ID: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>

*** the following config:
        <input>
            <module>playlist</module>
            <param name="type">script</param>
            <param name="file">/radio/getnextsongpath</param>
        </input>
gets me:

Could not find a valid playlist file.
Ices Exiting...


*** the following header of the config file:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<ices>

gets me:

XML Parser: Document of invalid type, no ices namespace found

note that this is the header of your distirbuted config files from ices-2.0.0/conf/

*** the following header(from an unoffical ices help page):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<ic:root xmlns:ic="http://url.des.namespaces">
<ices>

gets me:

/etc/ices.xml:94: parser error : Premature end of data in tag root line 2
^
XML Parser: Error while parsing /etc/ices.xml

*** also this header...

<ices:ices xmlns:ices="http://url.des.namespaces">

*** Even with ices -v
I do not see which config file is opened so I even do not know
whether I'm editing the right file

strace shows that the right file is opened

*** with google I found a completly different config file format
which should be at:
http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches/ices0/ices-libshout_2/doc/icesmanual.html
the request for that file never ends......
but there is google's cache! phew!

with this *OTHER* format containig the header:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<ices:Configuration xmlns:ices="http://www.icecast.org/projects/ices">
<ices:Playlist>

the error is gone

*** back to using playlist script:

            <ices:Playlist>
                <ices:Type>script</ices:Type>
                <ices:Module>/radio/getnextsongpath</ices:Module>

produces:

DEBUG: Initializing playlist handler...
DEBUG: Initializing builting playlist handler...
Could not find a valid playlist file.
Ices Exiting...

and this:

            <ices:Playlist>
                <ices:Type>python</ices:Type>
                <ices:Module>myown</ices:Module>

produces:

Initialization of playlist handler failed. [This binary has no support for embedded python]
Ices Exiting...


:-( 

ices 2.0.0 = ices alpha release,
with misleading documentation+example config,
and missing core feature
-- 
klaus thorn     klaus at trillke.net


From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Fri Jan  7 03:27:06 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:27:06 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] ices config problems
In-Reply-To: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
References: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
Message-ID: <3c1737210501061927208af531@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:08:15 +0100, klaus thorn <klaus at trillke.net> wrote:
> *** the following config:
>         <input>
>             <module>playlist</module>
>             <param name="type">script</param>
>             <param name="file">/radio/getnextsongpath</param>
>         </input>
> gets me:
> 
> Could not find a valid playlist file.
> Ices Exiting...

That's a very, very unusual place to put your playlist. Are you sure
it's really there?

> 
> *** the following header of the config file:
> 
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <ices>
> 
> gets me:
> 
> XML Parser: Document of invalid type, no ices namespace found
> 
> note that this is the header of your distirbuted config files from ices-2.0.0/conf/

Yeah, but are you actually USING ices-2.0.0? It looks like you're
using ices 0.x, which is a completely different application.

> 
> *** back to using playlist script:
> 
>             <ices:Playlist>
>                 <ices:Type>script</ices:Type>
>                 <ices:Module>/radio/getnextsongpath</ices:Module>

So you ARE using ices 0.x

> 
> produces:
> 
> DEBUG: Initializing playlist handler...
> DEBUG: Initializing builting playlist handler...
> Could not find a valid playlist file.

Does ices 0.x have script playlists? It looks like it's trying to find
a playlist file...

> 
> ices 2.0.0 = ices alpha release,
> with misleading documentation+example config,
> and missing core feature

You're not using ices2 at all.

Mike


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan  7 03:35:13 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:35:13 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices config problems
In-Reply-To: <3c1737210501061927208af531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
	<3c1737210501061927208af531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501071332160.3586@data.home>

Michael Smith wrote:

> Does ices 0.x have script playlists? It looks like it's trying to find
> a playlist file...

It does, but it's not a simple script like those supported by Ices 2.x - 
they need to be either perl or python and need to have a range of functions 
defined which Ices calls.

To the original poster - Maybe start at the beginning and tell us exactly 
what you're trying to do?

Geoff.



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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan  7 03:54:24 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:54:24 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices config problems
In-Reply-To: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
References: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501071352370.3586@data.home>

klaus thorn wrote:

>            <ices:Playlist>
>                <ices:Type>python</ices:Type>
>                <ices:Module>myown</ices:Module>
>
> produces:
>
> Initialization of playlist handler failed. [This binary has no support for embedded python]
> Ices Exiting...

The reason for this one at least is that Ices was compiled without python 
support.  And that's definitely Ices 0.x.

Geoff.



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From lemmingsml at nerim.fr  Fri Jan  7 14:24:12 2005
From: lemmingsml at nerim.fr (EISELE Pascal)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:24:12 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Alias & web interface ? 
Message-ID: <41DE9B8C.5040504@nerim.fr>

Hi,

I was using icecast 1.3 and I'd like to know if mountpoint alias are 
available with icecast 2.2 ? Can we modify them dynamicly with the web 
interface or something else ?
Is there a documentation about web interface features ? Some example 
(simple) of scripting with PHP or shell script to controle icecast 2.2 
throught the web interface ?
I was using many self-made shell script to change alias, ...
Thanks a lot.

Regards,
PE


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Sun Jan  9 04:21:17 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] eztream broken pipe, 0.2.0 doesnt compile
In-Reply-To: <41DC35FF.30009@ncsu.edu>
References: <41DC35FF.30009@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <41E0B13D.50605@ncsu.edu>

Well, I see ezstream 0.2.0 is downloadable, so I downloaded it and tried
to compile.  Unfortunately it won't compile for me.  The configure
script runs fine.  Here's the output of make.

Joel

make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jbebel/ezstream-0.2.0'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/jbebel/ezstream-0.2.0/src'
source='ezstream.c' object='ezstream.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/ezstream.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/ezstream.TPo' \
depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../depcomp \
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -Wall -ffast-math -fsigned-char
-I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/include/libxml2 -pthread -g
-O2 -c `test -f 'ezstream.c' || echo './'`ezstream.c
ezstream.c: In function `streamFile':
ezstream.c:385: warning: implicit declaration of function `sleep'
ezstream.c:351: warning: `ret' might be used uninitialized in this function
ezstream.c: In function `streamPlaylist':
ezstream.c:406: warning: unused variable `ret'
ezstream.c: In function `main':
ezstream.c:576: error: `SHOUT_FORMAT_OGG' undeclared (first use in this
function)
ezstream.c:576: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ezstream.c:576: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [ezstream.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jbebel/ezstream-0.2.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jbebel/ezstream-0.2.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2


Joel Ebel wrote:
> I discovered an interesting problem with ezstream.  I'm using version 
> 1.2.  I see 2 is listed on the website but appears to be a broken link. 
>  Otherwise I'd try it to see if it exhibits the same problem.
> 
> I'm using ezstream as a fallback mount for a radio station.  It plays a 
> 30 second ogg file over and over.  The ogg file is just a 5 second 
> message with 25 seconds of silence saying that the station is out of 
> service.  If the 25 seconds of silence is pure digital silence, then 
> ezstream will play it once the whole way through, but as soon as it 
> lists that it is streaming it a second time it gives a "Broken Pipe" 
> message and exits.  During the silence, the ogg bitrate drops to nothing 
> because it is pure silence.  Winamp report 1 kbps.  If, however, the 
> silence is -90 dB white noise, then ezstream continues to repeat the 
> stream, and Winamp reports 87 kbps bitrate.
> 
> It's interest to note that an mp3 stream doesn't exhibit this problem, 
> but I presume this has to do with the fact that the mp3 stream never 
> drops the bitrate to 1 kbps.
> 
> I can definitely get around this problem using the -90 dB white noise, 
> but nonetheless, this seems like a potential bug in ezstream that might 
> warrant a look.  Perhaps it's fixed in 2.0.
> 
> Also, if anyone has a better recommendation for setting up a backup 
> stream for use when the main stream is down, I'd be interested.  This 
> seemed like the simplest method to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From manfred.stienstra at dwerg.net  Sun Jan  9 12:43:50 2005
From: manfred.stienstra at dwerg.net (Manfred Stienstra)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:43:50 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Statically linked ices0
Message-ID: <1105274630.14782.31.camel@ack.dwerg.net>

Hi,

I'm trying to statically link ices0, but the configure scripts isn't
really agreeing with me. When I do this:

./configure --prefix=/radio/server --enable-shared=no
--enable-static=yes --without-perl --without-vorbis --without-faad
--without-flac

I still get a dynamically linked binary (linked to a lot of stuff I
specified I didn't want, but that's besides the point):

ldd src/ices
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libshout.so.3 => /usr/lib/libshout.so.3 (0x4955d000)
        libvorbis.so.0 => /usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0 (0x42d04000)
        libogg.so.0 => /usr/lib/libogg.so.0 (0x42c88000)
        libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 (0xb7e6d000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e5c000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7e0a000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e06000)
        libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0xb7e01000)
        libmp3lame.so.0 => /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 (0x43e8b000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7dde000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7cb3000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fea000)

And when I force -static:

LDFLAGS="-static" ./configure --without-libshout --without-shout
--without-shoutcast --prefix=/radio/server --enable-shared=no
--enable-static --disable-shared --disable-dynamic --without-perl
--without-vorbis --without-faad --without-flac

checking shout/shout.h usability... yes
checking shout/shout.h presence... yes
checking for shout/shout.h... yes
checking for shout_new... no
configure: error: Could not find a usable libshout

from config.log:

configure:20976: checking for shout_new
configure:21033: gcc -o conftest  -Wall -pthread  -I/usr/include -static
conftest.c -lshout -lvorbis
    >&5

[...snip...  al lof of undefined references to various ogg
functions ...]

: undefined reference to `oggpack_bytes'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../libvorbis.a(bitrate.o)(.text+0x147e): In function `vor
bis_bitrate_addblock':
: undefined reference to `rint'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../libvorbis.a(bitrate.o)(.text+0x159d): In function `vor
bis_bitrate_addblock':
: undefined reference to `rint'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../libvorbis.a(bitrate.o)(.text+0x171e): In function `vor
bis_bitrate_addblock':
: undefined reference to `rint'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../libvorbis.a(mdct.o)(.text
+0x75): In function `mdct_ini
t':
: undefined reference to `rint'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:21039: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:
etc. etc...

Does anyone know how to do this properly?

  Manfred



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sun Jan  9 16:28:22 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:28:22 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] eztream broken pipe, 0.2.0 doesnt compile
In-Reply-To: <41E0B13D.50605@ncsu.edu>
References: <41DC35FF.30009@ncsu.edu>
 <41E0B13D.50605@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050109102010.03306e30@www.oddsock.org>

At 10:21 PM 1/8/2005, you wrote:
>Well, I see ezstream 0.2.0 is downloadable, so I downloaded it and tried
>to compile.  Unfortunately it won't compile for me.  The configure
>script runs fine.  Here's the output of make.
>
>Joel
>
>ezstream.c:406: warning: unused variable `ret'
>ezstream.c: In function `main':
>ezstream.c:576: error: `SHOUT_FORMAT_OGG' undeclared (first use in this
>function)
>ezstream.c:576: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>ezstream.c:576: error: for each function it appears in.)

you'll need to grab the svn libshout or pull the daily snapshot  from here: 
http://www.oddsock.org/xiph_snapshots/libshout-snapshot.tar.gz

as far as your problem, it may be a problem with libshout itself.  ezstream 
using the libshout timing routines to throttle the data it is sending at, 
and sending in a ogg vorbis file of digital silence will most likely cause 
ezstream (or anything else that uses libshout's timing) to not send any 
data to icecast.  Icecast, in turn, will disconnect the source if doesn't 
receive data in a specified period of time (this source-timeout in the 
icecast config).

How about trying to change your icecast "source-timeout" (which is in 
seconds) to a value larger than your digital silence clip.

oddsock




From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Sun Jan  9 17:15:26 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:15:26 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ices Crashing (BUS error)
Message-ID: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I'm currently migrating from Shoutcast/MP3 to Icecast/OGG/Vorbis using ices.

Unfortunately, when initialising the encoder, ices crashes with a bus error.

Is there anything I can look into?

Details as follows:

icecast2-2.1.0,1
ices-2.0.0,1
libshout2-2.0_5,1
libogg-1.1.2_1,3
libvorbis-1.1.0_1,3

(All were installed from the ports tree)

On

FreeBSD ares.radiozilvervos.com 5.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 
#0: Sat Jan  8 14:32:17 CET 2005 
root at ares.radiozilvervos.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARES  i386

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

ices.xml:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<ices>
	<background>0</background>
	<logpath>/var/log/ices</logpath>
	<logfile>ices.log</logfile>
	<logsize>2048</logsize>
	<loglevel>4</loglevel>
	<consolelog>0</consolelog>
	<pidfile>/var/log/ices/ices.pid</pidfile>

	<stream>
		<input>
			<module>playlist</module>	
			<param name="type">script</param>
			<param name="program">/home/graver/phpshout.php</param>
		</input>
		<metadata>
			<name>My Stream</name>
			<genre>Rock</genre>
			<description>A short description of your stream</description>
			<url>http://mysite.org</url>
		</metadata>
		
		<instance>
			<hostname>localhost</hostname>
			<port>8000</port>
			<password>hackme</password>
			<mount>/harry.ogg</mount>
			<encode>
				<quality>8</quality>				
				<managed>0</managed>
				<samplerate>44100</samplerate>
				<channels>2</channels>
			</encode>
		</instance>
	</stream>
</ices>

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Loglevel 4:

[2005-01-09  18:08:24] INFO ices-core/main IceS 2.0.0 started...
[2005-01-09  18:08:24] INFO signals/signal_usr1_handler Metadata update 
requested
[2005-01-09  18:08:24] INFO stream/ices_instance_stream Connected to 
server: localhost:8000/harry.ogg
[2005-01-09  18:08:25] DBUG playlist-script/playlist_script_get_filename 
Program/script ("/home/graver/phpshout.php") returned filename 
"/home/jukebox/mp3/[Mavericks]-[I_Hope_You_Want_Me_Too_-_Maver].ogg"
[2005-01-09  18:08:25] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently playing
"/home/jukebox/mp3/[Mavericks]-[I_Hope_You_Want_Me_Too_-_Maver].ogg"
[2005-01-09  18:08:25] DBUG reencode/reencode_page Reinitialising 
reencoder for new logical stream
[2005-01-09  18:08:25] INFO encode/encode_initialise Encoder 
initialising in VBR mode: 2 channel(s), 44100 Hz, quality 8.000000

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

GDB output:

Starting program: /usr/local/bin/ices ices.xml
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no 
debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging 
symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols 
found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols 
found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error.
[Switching to Thread 1 (LWP 100188)]
0x2819d3e6 in _vp_couple () from /usr/local/lib/libvorbis.so.3




From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Sun Jan  9 22:51:05 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:51:05 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] Ices Crashing (BUS error)
In-Reply-To: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>
References: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <3c17372105010914512c6eb7f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:15:26 +0100, Frits Letteboer
<graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently migrating from Shoutcast/MP3 to Icecast/OGG/Vorbis using ices.
> 
> Unfortunately, when initialising the encoder, ices crashes with a bus error.

It looks from the gdb output that it's crashing in libvorbis. Can you
compile libvorbis AND ices with debugging symbols, and try again?

Since you appear to be using x86, this is a surprising error (bus
faults are much harder to trigger on x86 than on many other
architectures).

Does changing the quality level change anything?

Mike


From assadetptn.assadetptn at neuf.fr  Sun Jan  9 23:01:22 2005
From: assadetptn.assadetptn at neuf.fr (LeBoUc Bob)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:01:22 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Question about live and playlist
Message-ID: <002901c4f69f$236b8b20$869efea9@rom1>

Hi everyone,

I'm a french user of icecast2 on a distant serveur.
I have 1 stream running on the serveur (with ices) that play random mp3 and when i want to do a live i connect my PC (winamp+oddcastv3) to the icecast and then i have 2 stream on the icecast serveur. The question is "How can i replace the first stream (playlist) by my live stream, and when i've finished the live, the playlist hang on and the listeners don't see anything".

I want to do that because actually i have to move all the listeners manually from the first stream to the live. And when a new listener conect i have to move it to. It's not usefull.

Thx if u can help me.

Romano 

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From klaus at trillke.net  Fri Jan  7 17:07:12 2005
From: klaus at trillke.net (klaus thorn)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:07:12 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ices config problems
In-Reply-To: <3c1737210501061927208af531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050107000815.GE13833@trillke.net>
	<3c1737210501061927208af531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050107170712.GF24752@trillke.net>

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 02:27:06PM +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:08:15 +0100, klaus thorn <klaus at trillke.net> wrote:
> > *** the following config:
> >         <input>
> >             <module>playlist</module>
> >             <param name="type">script</param>
> >             <param name="file">/radio/getnextsongpath</param>
> >         </input>
> > gets me:
> > 
> > Could not find a valid playlist file.
> > Ices Exiting...
> 
> That's a very, very unusual place to put your playlist. Are you sure
> it's really there?

it's not a playlist. its a script that outputs one songpath when called.
This is what the documentations clains is possible.
And, yes it is there. The script is part of a quite big radio application under /radio

> > 
> > *** the following header of the config file:
> > 
> > <?xml version="1.0"?>
> > <ices>
> > 
> > gets me:
> > 
> > XML Parser: Document of invalid type, no ices namespace found
> > 
> > note that this is the header of your distirbuted config files from ices-2.0.0/conf/
> 
> Yeah, but are you actually USING ices-2.0.0? It looks like you're
> using ices 0.x, which is a completely different application.

ah, my PATH variable was leading to an old ices, you are right. thank you.


the other ices (2.0.0) works ;-) 

-- 
klaus thorn     klaus at trillke.net


From mike at altrion.org  Mon Jan 10 08:51:17 2005
From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:51:17 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Question about live and playlist
In-Reply-To: <002901c4f69f$236b8b20$869efea9@rom1>
References: <002901c4f69f$236b8b20$869efea9@rom1>
Message-ID: <CAA90030-62E4-11D9-9611-000502B381CE@altrion.org>


On 9 Jan 2005, at 23:01, LeBoUc Bob wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> ?
> I'm a french user of icecast2 on a distant serveur.
> I have 1 stream running on the serveur (with ices) that play random 
> mp3 and when i want to do a live i connect my PC (winamp+oddcastv3) to 
> the icecast and then i have 2 stream on the icecast serveur. The 
> question is "How can i replace the first stream (playlist) by my live 
> stream, and when i've finished the live, the playlist hang on and the 
> listeners don't see anything".
> ?
> I want to do that because actually i have to move all the listeners 
> manually from the first stream to the live. And when a new listener 
> conect i have to move it to. It's not usefull.
> ?
> Thx?if u can help me.

Assuming you can change the server config, it's easy: look at 
icecast2_config_file.html in the docs directory, specifically the 
fallback-mount and fallback-override directives.



From carsten at chatlabel.de  Mon Jan 10 13:50:15 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:50:15 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream is streaming differently bitrate to config file
Message-ID: <733909608.20050110145015@chatlabel.de>

hi together, our e zastream is streaming the bitrate that is original
in the mp3 file. but in the config i have 24. have you any idea ?


thank you

<ezstream>
 <url>http://localhost:8010/backup</url>
 <sourcepassword>+++</sourcepassword>
 <format>MP3</format>
 <filename>playlist.m3u</filename>
 <svrinfoname>Radio.Chatlabel.de (SendePause)</svrinfoname>
 <svrinfourl>http://radio.chatlabel.de</svrinfourl>
 <svrinfogenre>gemischt</svrinfogenre>
 <svrinfodescription>Das Radio von ChatLabel.de</svrinfodescription>
 <svrinfobitrate>24</svrinfobitrate>
 <svrinfoquality>4.0</svrinfoquality>
 <svrinfochannels>2</svrinfochannels>
 <svrinfosamplerate>44100</svrinfosamplerate>
 <svrinfopublic>0</svrinfopublic>
</ezstream>

  

-- 
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan 10 14:37:56 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:37:56 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream is streaming differently bitrate to config file
In-Reply-To: <733909608.20050110145015@chatlabel.de>
References: <733909608.20050110145015@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050110083627.033b3c38@www.oddsock.org>

At 07:50 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote:
>hi together, our e zastream is streaming the bitrate that is original
>in the mp3 file. but in the config i have 24. have you any idea ?

from the ezstream README :

SVRINFOBITRATE - Bitrate of broadcast (informational only) (used for YP)
                  It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that the bitrate 
specified
                  here matches up with your input.  Note that this info is not
                  for anything OTHER than YP listing info.

if you want to reencode, you need to look at and use one of the 
ezstream_reencoding_example_*.xml config files...

oddsock




From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Mon Jan 10 22:40:18 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:40:18 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication for multiple mountpoints;
 client connections seems high
Message-ID: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>

Two quick questions:

1.  Is it ok to use the same password file for multiple mountpoints, or 
will that cause problems?

2.  Why would my clients number 113 larger than my number of listeners? 
  It was right earlier today, but when I restarted the sources it 
increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it 
especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this 
constantly exceeds it.

Thanks,
Joel


From dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr  Tue Jan 11 01:50:52 2005
From: dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr (Apostolopoulos Ioannis)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:50:52 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
Message-ID: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>

Hello all friends!

I have downloaded the latest ezstream (0.2.0) for Windows version, but I
have faced some issues...

First of all, on the installation process, it neither makes the desktop
icon as it says it would do, nor creates a program group folder on the
startup menu. Anyway, I try to finf on my Program Files folder and run
in DOS mode the ezstream.exe

 

I want to ask if I can grab the input from my sound card and stream it
via an IceCast server. I do not want to play any playlist or file, as I
want to make separately all my music and voice and just give it to my
soundcard, in order to stream it. Is there any help or support on how
can I do this? And can I make it somehow to run ezstream as a service,
without managing to run it every time?

(Sorry for my English)

 

Any help/response is grateful!

_______________________________________________
Ioannis Apostolopoulos | University <BLOCKED::http://www.aegean.gr/>  of
the Aegean <BLOCKED::http://www.aegean.gr/> 
dept. of Product & Systems Design Engineeering
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 11 05:14:49 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:14:49 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
In-Reply-To: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
References: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501111512230.3586@data.home>

Hi:

If you want to stream from the line input of your soundcard, 
then I'd recommend either the Oddcast DSP plugin for Winamp 
(or any of the other players supported if they also have line input 
plugins), or something like Oddsock's Stream Transcoder which can be 
configured to get its input from the soundcard.  Both can be found at 
oddsock.org.  Ezstream is not designed for this sort of thing.

Geoff.



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From greg at orban.com  Tue Jan 11 05:24:34 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:24:34 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
In-Reply-To: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
References: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050110212258.07006000@66.220.31.130>

Orban Opticodec-PC LE/PE AAC/aacPlus Streaming Audio Encoder

http://www.orban.com/orban/products/stream/1010_overview.html

-greg.



At 17:50 2005-01-10, Apostolopoulos Ioannis wrote:
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>
>Hello all friends!
>I have downloaded the latest ezstream (0.2.0) for Windows version, but I 
>have faced some issues

>First of all, on the installation process, it neither makes the desktop 
>icon as it says it would do, nor creates a program group folder on the 
>startup menu. Anyway, I try to finf on my Program Files folder and run in 
>DOS mode the ezstream.exe
>
>I want to ask if I can grab the input from my sound card and stream it via 
>an IceCast server. I do not want to play any playlist or file, as I want 
>to make separately all my music and voice and just give it to my 
>soundcard, in order to stream it. Is there any help or support on how can 
>I do this? And can I make it somehow to run ezstream as a service, without 
>managing to run it every time?
>(Sorry for my English)
>
>Any help/response is grateful!
>_______________________________________________
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From greg at orban.com  Tue Jan 11 05:43:05 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:43:05 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
In-Reply-To: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
References: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050110214159.07017ec0@66.220.31.130>

Orban Opticodec-PC LE/PE AAC/aacPlus Streaming Audio Encoder

Low Cost Version now available.

http://www.orban.com/orban/products/stream/1010_overview.html

-greg.



From brendan at xiph.org  Tue Jan 11 06:45:51 2005
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:45:51 -0800
Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050110214159.07017ec0@66.220.31.130>
References: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20050110214159.07017ec0@66.220.31.130>
Message-ID: <20050111064550.GD10011@watanabe.local>

 On Monday, 10 January 2005 at 21:43, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> Orban Opticodec-PC LE/PE AAC/aacPlus Streaming Audio Encoder
> 
> Low Cost Version now available.
> 
> http://www.orban.com/orban/products/stream/1010_overview.html

This list exists to help people to use icecast and related streaming
software. It does not exist to provide free advertising. Your product
is admittedly more tangentially related to icecast than Viagra, but
this is still spam.

Please either contribute actual help or refrain from
posting. Messages like the one above just annoy our members and are
likely to get you banned.


From jlb at twu.net  Tue Jan 11 07:10:32 2005
From: jlb at twu.net (JLB)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:10:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?...
	(newbie)
In-Reply-To: <20050111064550.GD10011@watanabe.local>
References: <2936DECD9ACA2A4E8D55D6B45C6DCA3307B597@hermes2.aegean.gr>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20050110214159.07017ec0@66.220.31.130>
	<20050111064550.GD10011@watanabe.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0501110210220.28567@twu.net>

But will his low-cost thingydoodle enlarge my pen one ess?

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Brendan Cully wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:45:51 -0800
> From: Brendan Cully <brendan at xiph.org>
> To: Greg J. Ogonowski <greg at orban.com>
> Cc: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?...
>     (newbie)
>
>  On Monday, 10 January 2005 at 21:43, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> > Orban Opticodec-PC LE/PE AAC/aacPlus Streaming Audio Encoder
> >
> > Low Cost Version now available.
> >
> > http://www.orban.com/orban/products/stream/1010_overview.html
>
> This list exists to help people to use icecast and related streaming
> software. It does not exist to provide free advertising. Your product
> is admittedly more tangentially related to icecast than Viagra, but
> this is still spam.
>
> Please either contribute actual help or refrain from
> posting. Messages like the one above just annoy our members and are
> likely to get you banned.
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From greg at orban.com  Tue Jan 11 07:55:43 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:55:43 -0800
Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [Icecast] ezstream grabing line-in input?... (newbie)
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050110235432.03ef5280@66.220.31.130>

Sorry Brendan-

My intent is far from spam.  There have been several questions asked about 
the availability of AAC/aacPlus streaming on the Icecast lists, as well as 
other streaming and codec forums.  My intent is simply an Icecast2 
compliant AAC/aacPlus encoder awareness issue, although I agree with you 
that it is advertising.

We do have quite a bit of information in our Opticodec-PC Technical Manual 
supporting the Icecast2 Streaming Server.  We also have a link on the Orban 
website for Opticodec-PC to the Icecast.org website.  The link is as below.

The content type of audio/aac was added to Icecast2 Version 2.2, partially 
due to our requests, and we very much appreciate that.  I think you guys 
have done a great job on the Icecast2 Server, and as far as we're 
concerned, "it whips the lamas ass!"

Please let me know if there is anything else we can contribute.  I do have 
a few feature requests, but I'm not sure where to direct them?

Again, sorry for the spam implication.  If you have any better way for us 
to indicate Icecast2 support in our products, please let me know.

-greg.




At 22:45 2005-01-10, Brendan Cully wrote:
>  On Monday, 10 January 2005 at 21:43, Greg J. Ogonowski wrote:
> > Orban Opticodec-PC LE/PE AAC/aacPlus Streaming Audio Encoder
> >
> > Low Cost Version now available.
> >
> > http://www.orban.com/orban/products/stream/1010_overview.html
>
>This list exists to help people to use icecast and related streaming
>software. It does not exist to provide free advertising. Your product
>is admittedly more tangentially related to icecast than Viagra, but
>this is still spam.
>
>Please either contribute actual help or refrain from
>posting. Messages like the one above just annoy our members and are
>likely to get you banned.





From greg at orban.com  Tue Jan 11 08:38:13 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:38:13 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] IntroFile Feature Request for Icecast2 Server
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050111002922.03ef5280@66.220.31.130>

Would it be possible to add IntroFile support (like SHOUTcast) to Icecast2, 
to play an intro file upon connection to a live stream without having to 
re-buffer between file and subsequent live stream?

If this is already supported, please excuse the request, and explain the 
configuration.

Thanks.
-greg.

__________________________________________________________________________
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VP Product Development
ORBAN / CRL, Inc.
1525 Alvarado St.
San Leandro, CA  94577  USA
TEL +1 510 351-3500
FAX +1 510 351-0500
greg at orban.com
http://www.orban.com



From carsten at chatlabel.de  Tue Jan 11 10:16:32 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:16:32 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream is streaming differently bitrate to config file
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050110083627.033b3c38@www.oddsock.org>
References: <733909608.20050110145015@chatlabel.de>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050110083627.033b3c38@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <877003765.20050111111632@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag oddsock,

Am Montag, 10. Januar 2005 um 15:37 schrieben Sie:

o> At 07:50 AM 1/10/2005, you wrote:
>>hi together, our e zastream is streaming the bitrate that is original
>>in the mp3 file. but in the config i have 24. have you any idea ?

o> from the ezstream README :

o> SVRINFOBITRATE - Bitrate of broadcast (informational only) (used for YP)
o>                   It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that the bitrate
o> specified
o>                   here matches up with your input.  Note that this info is not
o>                   for anything OTHER than YP listing info.

o> if you want to reencode, you need to look at and use one of the 
o> ezstream_reencoding_example_*.xml config files...


ok, i have installed lame and  madplay. my config file for eza is now
with the options:
<reencode>
            <enable>1</enable>
            <encdec>
            <!-- Support for MP3 decoding via madplay, and encoding via LAME -->
            <format>MP3</format>
            <match>.mp3</match>
            <decode>madplay -o raw:- @T@ 2>/dev/null</decode>
            <encode>lame -r -x -b 56 -s 44.1 --resample 22.05 -a - - 2>/dev/null</encode>
            </encdec>
    </reencode>


have you any documentation for this ?

have al lot of thanks.

carsten

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From papa.schlumpf at my-mail.ch  Tue Jan 11 14:39:10 2005
From: papa.schlumpf at my-mail.ch (stefan himpelmaier)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:39:10 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Exit Icecast
Message-ID: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>

Hi
I`m using Icecast 2.2(on Suse 9.0) and will working fine but
how do i exit Icecast ???
Greets Chris
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Tue Jan 11 14:41:21 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:41:21 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] IntroFile Feature Request for Icecast2 Server
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050111002922.03ef5280@66.220.31.130>
References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050111002922.03ef5280@66.220.31.130>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050111083658.033ecea8@www.oddsock.org>

At 02:38 AM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>Would it be possible to add IntroFile support (like SHOUTcast) to 
>Icecast2, to play an intro file upon connection to a live stream without 
>having to re-buffer between file and subsequent live stream?

Introfiles as well as "fallback-to-a-file" is currently implemented in 
Karl's branch (http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches/kh/icecast).  One of 
the things next on our agenda is to integrate that, along with his 
url-based authentication, into the mainline icecast trunk.

oddsock




From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Tue Jan 11 14:58:27 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:58:27 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Exit Icecast
In-Reply-To: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
References: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
Message-ID: <41E3E993.2030900@ncsu.edu>

Just kill it.  You can either run killall icecast, or you can find the 
pid of icecast and kill it specifically.  ps can help you find it, but a 
better way would be to use a pid file which you can enable in the 
icecast configuration, and use it to kill icecast with something like this:

kill `cat /usr/local/share/icecast/icecast.pid`

I use the attached script to start, stop, and restart icecast.  It might 
take some modifications to work with SuSE though.  I've used it with 
Slackware and Debian.

Joel


stefan himpelmaier wrote:
> Hi
> I`m using Icecast 2.2(on Suse 9.0) and will working fine but
> how do i exit Icecast ???
> Greets Chris
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> Sagen Sie nicht, wir h?tten Sie nicht gewarnt!
> http://my-mail.ch/?redirect=9901
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 11 17:06:25 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:06:25 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Exit Icecast
In-Reply-To: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
References: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501120303590.8521@data.home>

Hi:

In addition to what's already been written about killing icecast.

What you may be wanting is to be able to exit it without stopping it.  I 
don't immediately recall a "run in background" option for icecast.  What I 
usually do is something like:

icecast -c icecast.xml &

which will background the process, leaving you free to do other things, or 
logout (particularly important if you're logged in remotely).

Geoff.


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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Tue Jan 11 17:34:26 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:34:26 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Exit Icecast
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501120303590.8521@data.home>
References: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501120303590.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <41E40E22.6080808@ncsu.edu>

The -b option will also background.  It's included in my script.  That's 
important if you run the script on startup.

Joel

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> In addition to what's already been written about killing icecast.
> 
> What you may be wanting is to be able to exit it without stopping it.  I 
> don't immediately recall a "run in background" option for icecast.  What 
> I usually do is something like:
> 
> icecast -c icecast.xml &
> 
> which will background the process, leaving you free to do other things, 
> or logout (particularly important if you're logged in remotely).
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 12 01:42:05 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:42:05 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Exit Icecast
In-Reply-To: <41E40E22.6080808@ncsu.edu>
References: <380-220051211143910726@my-mail.ch>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501120303590.8521@data.home>
	<41E40E22.6080808@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501121140290.8521@data.home>

Joel Ebel wrote:

> The -b option will also background.  It's included in my script.  That's 
> important if you run the script on startup.

ah... Knew there had to be a more elegant way to do it. I've been running 
Icecast 2.x since mid 2001 and some of those nicities weren't around then.

Geoff.


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From ronblok at wxs.nl  Wed Jan 12 22:42:25 2005
From: ronblok at wxs.nl (Ron Blok)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:42:25 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Recomendations
Message-ID: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICMEEBCLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>

Dear Icecast community,

For several weeks I am running two IceCast2 streams.
I am very pleased with the stability and performance of the Icecast
application.
Thumbs-up for the developers of this great piece of software!!

The sources (live audio) are generated with two separated liveice-sn04 and
streams to the remote Icecast servers.
So far so good!
Frequently one of the sources stops to stream .... no relation to the
internet connectivity or other obvious reasons.
In order not to lose the listeners I am planning to configure the Icecast
servers with a fallback mount.
This fallback mount should be generated on the Icecast servers itself in
order to make it undependable of the feeding sources.
The remote source will play a file or several files with an announcement
that the broadcast is interrupted etc ... over and over. In this way there
will always be an audio stream even during maintenance of the stream
feeders.

Done some reading how to set-up such a scheme and I believe I do understand
how to configure the Icast servers for fallback and the override feature.

Now here comes where I need your advice...
Since the whole thing is depending on the availability of the /backup
source, generated on the Icecast server itself I am looking for a robust mp3
and/or oogvorbis stream feeder that plays 24/7 the announcement file ....
Checked the several recommended applications like Ices and so one ... but
not sure which one to use.
Knowing that the stream sources is giving me such a bad time I would like
your recommendation which stream application you recommend in this set-up
and or if you have any other recommendations how to proceed.

Thanks in advance





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From dmehler26 at woh.rr.com  Wed Jan 12 23:29:07 2005
From: dmehler26 at woh.rr.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:29:07 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ices0 config for high and low bandwidth users
Message-ID: <000901c4f8fe$830d11f0$0400a8c0@satellite>

Hello,
    Does anyone have a config for the above? I've got several static
playlists of mp3's that i'd like to offer. Offering them for high bandwidth
cable dsl users works fine, but i'd like to give them out to dialups as
well. Currently whenever a dialup user connects the stream1 plays for about
two seconds then goes sluggish. I'm theorizing that i'm giving to much for
the user to handle over the modem. Below is what i have a config, but i am
uncertain as to the proper setting of bitrate, samplerate, and chanels for
the dialup user on stream2. Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
Dave.

ices.conf stream settings:
  <Playlist>
    <File>/usr/local/share/icecast/conf/playlist.txt</File>
  </Playlist>
  <Stream>
    <Server>
      <Hostname>localhost</Hostname>
      <Port>8000</Port>
      <Password>password</Password>
      <Protocol>http</Protocol>
    </Server>
    <Mountpoint>/stream1</Mountpoint>
    <Name>Local MP3 Stream</Name>
    <Genre>Music</Genre>
    <Description>Music</Description>
    <URL>http://localhost/</URL>
    <Public>0</Public>
    <Bitrate>128</Bitrate>
    <Reencode>1</Reencode>
    <Samplerate>44100</Samplerate>
    <Channels>2</Channels>
  </Stream>
<Stream>
    <Server>
      <Hostname>localhost</Hostname>
      <Port>8000</Port>
      <Password>password</Password>
      <Protocol>http</Protocol>
    </Server>
    <Mountpoint>/stream2</Mountpoint>
    <Name>Local MP3 Stream Dialup</Name>
    <Genre>MusicDialup</Genre>
    <Description>Music For Dialup</Description>
    <URL>http://localhost/</URL>
    <Public>0</Public>
    <Bitrate>24</Bitrate>
    <Reencode>1</Reencode>
    <Samplerate>22050</Samplerate>
    <Channels>1</Channels>
  </Stream>




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 13 00:39:27 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:39:27 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices0 config for high and low bandwidth users
In-Reply-To: <000901c4f8fe$830d11f0$0400a8c0@satellite>
References: <000901c4f8fe$830d11f0$0400a8c0@satellite>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501131038460.8521@data.home>

Hi:

Those values used for stream2 should work fine.  24kbps 22050Hz mono is 
what we use in our project for modem feeds.

Geoff.


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From assadetptn.assadetptn at neuf.fr  Wed Jan 12 22:13:40 2005
From: assadetptn.assadetptn at neuf.fr (LeBoUc Bob)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:13:40 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Always question about live and playlist
Message-ID: <002101c4f8f3$f907dd00$0821b951@rom1>

Hi everyone,

My first mail was: 
"I'm a french user of icecast2 on a distant serveur.
I have 1 stream running on the serveur (with ices) that play random mp3 and when i want to do a live i connect my PC (winamp+oddcastv3) to the icecast and then i have 2 stream on the icecast serveur. The question is "How can i replace the first stream (playlist) by my live stream, and when i've finished the live, the playlist hang on and the listeners don't see anything".

I want to do that because actually i have to move all the listeners manually from the first stream to the live. And when a new listener conect i have to move it to. It's not usefull"

Some people give me some help but i don't eally understand what i have to do. I juste understand that the options wich could interst me (to resolve my prob) is the fallback option but thats all....
This is my icecast.xml config file if you can help me...

<icecast>
    <limits>
        <clients>100</clients>
        <sources>2</sources>
        <threadpool>5</threadpool>
        <queue-size>102400</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
        <!-- If enabled, this will provide a burst of data when a client 
             first connects, thereby significantly reducing the startup 
             time for listeners that do substantial buffering. However,
             it also significantly increases latency between the source
             client and listening client.  For low-latency setups, you
             might want to disable this. -->
        <burst-on-connect>1</burst-on-connect>
        <!-- same as burst-on-connect, but this allows for being more
             specific on how much to burst. Most people won't need to
             change from the default 64k. Applies to all mountpoints  -->
        <burst-size>65535</burst-size>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
        <source-password>blabla</source-password>
        <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
        <relay-password>blabla</relay-password>

        <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
        <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
        <admin-password>blabla</admin-password>
    </authentication>

    <!-- Uncomment this if you want directory listings -->
    <!--
    <directory>
        <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
        <yp-url>http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
    </directory>
    <directory>
        <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
        <yp-url>http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url>
    </directory>
     -->

    <!-- This is the hostname other people will use to connect to your server.
    It affects mainly the urls generated by Icecast for playlists and yp
    listings. -->
    <hostname>fairartposse.net</hostname>

    <!-- You can use these two if you only want a single listener -->
    <!--<port>8000</port> -->
    <!--<bind-address>127.0.0.1</bind-address>-->

    <!-- You may have multiple <listener> elements -->
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8000</port>
        <!-- <bind-address>fairartposse.net</bind-address> -->
    </listen-socket>
    <!--
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8001</port>
    </listen-socket>
    -->

    <!--<master-server>127.0.0.1</master-server>-->
    <!--<master-server-port>8001</master-server-port>-->
    <!--<master-update-interval>120</master-update-interval>-->
    <!--<master-password>blabla</master-password>-->
    <!--
    <relay>
        <server>radiocrewstybat.servehttp.com</server>
        <port>8001</port>
        <mount>radiorom.ogg</mount>
        <local-mount>test</local-mount>

        <relay-shoutcast-metadata>0</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
    </relay>
    -->

    <!-- Only define a <mount> section if you want to use advanced options,
         like alternative usernames or passwords
    <mount>
        <mount-name>/example-complex.ogg</mount-name>

        <username>othersource</username>
        <password>hackmemore</password>

        <max-listeners>1</max-listeners>
        <dump-file>/tmp/dump-example1.ogg</dump-file>
        <burst-size>65536</burst-size>
        <fallback-mount>/example2.ogg</fallback-mount>
        <authentication type="htpasswd">
                <option name="filename" value="myauth"/>
                <option name="allow_duplicate_users" value="0"/>
        </authentication>
    </mount>
    -->

    <fileserve>1</fileserve>

    <paths>
  <!-- basedir is only used if chroot is enabled -->
        <basedir>/usr/local/share/icecast</basedir>

        <!-- Note that if <chroot> is turned on below, these paths must both
             be relative to the new root, not the original root -->
        <logdir>/var/log/icecast</logdir>
        <webroot>/usr/local/share/icecast/web</webroot>
        <adminroot>/usr/local/share/icecast/admin</adminroot>
        <pidfile>/usr/local/share/icecast/icecast.pid</pidfile>

        <!-- Aliases: treat requests for 'source' path as being for 'dest' path
             May be made specific to a port or bound address using the "port"
             and "bind-address" attributes.
          -->
        <!--
        <alias source="/foo" dest="/bar"/>
          -->
        <!-- Aliases: can also be used for simple redirections as well,
             this example will redirect all requests for http://server:port/ to
             the status page
          -->
        <alias source="/" dest="/kiviv"/>
    </paths>

    <logging>
        <accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
        <errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
       <loglevel>4</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
    </logging>

    <security>
        <chroot>0</chroot>
        <!--
        <changeowner>
            <user>nobody</user>
            <group>nogroup</group>
        </changeowner>
        -->
    </security>
</icecast>

THX a lot !!!!!!

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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 13 09:08:34 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:08:34 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Always question about live and playlist
In-Reply-To: <002101c4f8f3$f907dd00$0821b951@rom1>
References: <002101c4f8f3$f907dd00$0821b951@rom1>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501131903200.8521@data.home>

Hi:

Ok, you didn't say what your mount points are, so I'm going to say for 
example that your live stream is on /live and your playlist stream is on 
/playlist .  All you need to do is create a <mount> section for your live 
mount as follows:

     <mount>
         <mount-name>/live</mount-name>
         <fallback-mount>/playlist</fallback-mount>
         <fallback-override>1</fallback-override>
     </mount>

Of course, the <mount> section can have other options such as password, 
dump file, max number of listeners, etc.  But the ones included here are 
all you need to have to make this work.

Hope this helps,
Geoff.


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From danstowell at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 09:12:03 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:12:03 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Recomendations
In-Reply-To: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICMEEBCLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>
References: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICMEEBCLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>
Message-ID: <286e6b7c05011301125118c4d8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ron,

I'd definitely recommend Ices - seems like the most robust little
thing in the world to me, although I'm not an expert, just a user. We
use it (ices0 actually, because we wanted MP3 broadcasting) to
broadcast our main radio stream at http://www.flatfourradio.co.uk and
no complaints at all.

Dan


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:42:25 +0100, Ron Blok <ronblok at wxs.nl> wrote:
> Dear Icecast community,
> 
> For several weeks I am running two IceCast2 streams.
> I am very pleased with the stability and performance of the Icecast
> application.
> Thumbs-up for the developers of this great piece of software!!
> 
> The sources (live audio) are generated with two separated liveice-sn04 and
> streams to the remote Icecast servers.
> So far so good!
> Frequently one of the sources stops to stream .... no relation to the
> internet connectivity or other obvious reasons.
> In order not to lose the listeners I am planning to configure the Icecast
> servers with a fallback mount.
> This fallback mount should be generated on the Icecast servers itself in
> order to make it undependable of the feeding sources.
> The remote source will play a file or several files with an announcement
> that the broadcast is interrupted etc ... over and over. In this way there
> will always be an audio stream even during maintenance of the stream
> feeders.
> 
> Done some reading how to set-up such a scheme and I believe I do understand
> how to configure the Icast servers for fallback and the override feature.
> 
> Now here comes where I need your advice...
> Since the whole thing is depending on the availability of the /backup
> source, generated on the Icecast server itself I am looking for a robust mp3
> and/or oogvorbis stream feeder that plays 24/7 the announcement file ....
> Checked the several recommended applications like Ices and so one ... but
> not sure which one to use.
> Knowing that the stream sources is giving me such a bad time I would like
> your recommendation which stream application you recommend in this set-up
> and or if you have any other recommendations how to proceed.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Thu Jan 13 09:43:55 2005
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:43:55 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] Mozilla Player?
Message-ID: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>

I noticed lately a few listeners on my Vorbis stream using a player called:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

I know Mozilla is a browser.  Does it have a Vorbis decoder built-in or 
what's the story.  Anyone?

Regards,

Ross Levis.
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From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Thu Jan 13 13:43:01 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:01 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ices Crashing (BUS error)
In-Reply-To: <3c17372105010914512c6eb7f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>
	<3c17372105010914512c6eb7f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41E67AE5.3040102@graver.xs4all.nl>

Michael Smith wrote:
 > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:15:26 +0100, Frits Letteboer
 > <graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
 >
 >>Hi,
 >>
 >>I'm currently migrating from Shoutcast/MP3 to Icecast/OGG/Vorbis 
using ices.
 >>
 >>Unfortunately, when initialising the encoder, ices crashes with a bus 
error.
 >
 >
 > It looks from the gdb output that it's crashing in libvorbis. Can you
 > compile libvorbis AND ices with debugging symbols, and try again?

Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error.
[Switching to Thread 1 (LWP 100163)]
0x2819e486 in _vp_couple (blobno=7, g=0x80adb34, p=0x80c8334, vi=0x80b0000,
     res=0x805c960, mag_memo=0x8105930, mag_sort=0x8105960, 
ifloor=0x8105870,
     nonzero=0xbfaedc70, sliding_lowpass=574) at psy.c:1167
1167            for(k=0;k<partition;k++){


 >
 > Since you appear to be using x86, this is a surprising error (bus
 > faults are much harder to trigger on x86 than on many other
 > architectures).
 > Does changing the quality level change anything?

No, I tried several, all crashed.


From carsten at chatlabel.de  Thu Jan 13 13:57:38 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:57:38 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
Message-ID: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>

hi,

i want to reencode our ezstream. but it dosent work. mdplay and lame
are installed on the server. the config for ezstream is in the bottom
of this mail. i dont understand the problem. have you any ieda ?

have a lot of thanks


my config:
<ezstream>
  <url>http://localhost:8000/backup</url>
  <sourcepassword>*****</sourcepassword>
 <format>MP3</format>
 <filename>playlist.m3u</filename>
 <svrinfoname>Radio.Chatlabel.de (SendePause)</svrinfoname>
 <svrinfourl>http://radio.chatlabel.de</svrinfourl>
 <svrinfogenre>gemischt</svrinfogenre>
 <svrinfodescription>Das Radio von CHatLabel.de</svrinfodescription>
 <svrinfobitrate>64</svrinfobitrate>
 <svrinfoquality>4.0</svrinfoquality>
 <svrinfochannels>2</svrinfochannels>
 <svrinfosamplerate>44100</svrinfosamplerate>
 <svrinfopublic>0</svrinfopublic>
    <reencode>
            <enable>1</enable>
            <encdec>
            <!-- Support for MP3 decoding via madplay, and encoding via LAME -->
            <format>MP3</format>
            <match>.mp3</match>
            <decode>madplay -o raw:- @T@ 2>/dev/null</decode>
            <encode>lame -r -x -b 64 -s 44.1 --resample 22.05 -a - - 2>/dev/null</encode>
            </encdec>
    </reencode>
</ezstream>

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From arc at Xiph.org  Thu Jan 13 14:08:50 2005
From: arc at Xiph.org (Arc)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:08:50 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Mozilla Player?
In-Reply-To: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
References: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
Message-ID: <20050113140850.GO9278@xiph.org>

On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:43:55PM +1300, Ross Levis wrote:
> I noticed lately a few listeners on my Vorbis stream using a player called:
> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
> 
> I know Mozilla is a browser.  Does it have a Vorbis decoder built-in or 
> what's the story.  Anyone?

Not as far as I know.

This more than likely means that someone was using Mozilla to record the 
stream.  Icecast uses standard HTTP, so any web-based client can grab a 
copy of the stream for archive/etc.  Are you linking to the .m3u's or to 
the .ogg streams directly?


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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan 13 14:57:21 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:57:21 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050113085543.033f0fa0@www.oddsock.org>

At 07:57 AM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
>hi,
>
>i want to reencode our ezstream. but it dosent work. mdplay and lame
>are installed on the server. the config for ezstream is in the bottom
>of this mail. i dont understand the problem. have you any ieda ?

if you are hoping to get any kind of decent response you really need to 
elaborate on what you mean by "doesn't work".  The more specific and 
detailed you can be, the better a response you will get....

oddsock




From carsten at chatlabel.de  Thu Jan 13 15:53:55 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:53:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050113085543.033f0fa0@www.oddsock.org>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050113085543.033f0fa0@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <1689742554.20050113165355@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag oddsock,

Am Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2005 um 15:57 schrieben Sie:

>>i want to reencode our ezstream. but it dosent work. mdplay and lame
>>are installed on the server. the config for ezstream is in the bottom
>>of this mail. i dont understand the problem. have you any ieda ?

o> if you are hoping to get any kind of decent response you really need to
o> elaborate on what you mean by "doesn't work".  The more specific and
o> detailed you can be, the better a response you will get....

ok, sorry. i want to reencode the stream to 64 kbit 44,1 khz stereo
wiht ezastream. but ezstream is streaming the full quality of the mp3 file. the songs
are in a playlist. ezstream play the songs without problems. only the
reencoding is not runnig.
it?s a linux server, suse 9.1
lame 3.96.1
madplay 0.15.2b
ezstream 0.2.0

if i call in a directory who are the mp3 files standing "lame -h -b 64
*.mp3" lame will reencode this to new mp3 files. but i think, lame
isn?t working with ezstream.

what for inforamtion you need to ?

tahnks

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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Thu Jan 13 16:45:29 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:45:29 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] eztream broken pipe, 0.2.0 doesn't compile
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050109102010.03306e30@www.oddsock.org>
References: <41DC35FF.30009@ncsu.edu> <41E0B13D.50605@ncsu.edu>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050109102010.03306e30@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <41E6A5A9.4020806@ncsu.edu>

You were correct.  Increasing the source-timeout in icecast to 30 
allowed the stream with 25 seconds of digital silence to work fine.

And I was able to get ezstream 0.2.0 to compile using the daily snapshot 
of libshout.  However, I'd like to point out that you should make make 
the information that the daily build is required a little more apparent. 
  I didn't find any info about that on the website or in any 
documentation.  Or even better, make a new release of libshout.  Somehow 
I doubt many people who try ezstream 0.2.0 will be using a recent daily 
build, and they will likely suffer the same fate as me, and wind up 
asking what's wrong here anyway.  Just a suggestion.

Joel

oddsock wrote:
> At 10:21 PM 1/8/2005, you wrote:
> 
>> Well, I see ezstream 0.2.0 is downloadable, so I downloaded it and tried
>> to compile.  Unfortunately it won't compile for me.  The configure
>> script runs fine.  Here's the output of make.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> ezstream.c:406: warning: unused variable `ret'
>> ezstream.c: In function `main':
>> ezstream.c:576: error: `SHOUT_FORMAT_OGG' undeclared (first use in this
>> function)
>> ezstream.c:576: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>> ezstream.c:576: error: for each function it appears in.)
> 
> 
> you'll need to grab the svn libshout or pull the daily snapshot  from 
> here: http://www.oddsock.org/xiph_snapshots/libshout-snapshot.tar.gz
> 
> as far as your problem, it may be a problem with libshout itself.  
> ezstream using the libshout timing routines to throttle the data it is 
> sending at, and sending in a ogg vorbis file of digital silence will 
> most likely cause ezstream (or anything else that uses libshout's 
> timing) to not send any data to icecast.  Icecast, in turn, will 
> disconnect the source if doesn't receive data in a specified period of 
> time (this source-timeout in the icecast config).
> 
> How about trying to change your icecast "source-timeout" (which is in 
> seconds) to a value larger than your digital silence clip.
> 
> oddsock
> 
> 
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From lpmusix at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 17:23:22 2005
From: lpmusix at gmail.com (Daniel Ballenger)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:23:22 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Mozilla Player?
In-Reply-To: <56755a705011309226b06926e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<56755a705011309226b06926e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56755a7050113092362332994@mail.gmail.com>

> I noticed lately a few listeners on my Vorbis stream using a player called:
> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
>
> I know Mozilla is a browser.  Does it have a Vorbis decoder built-in or
> what's the story.  Anyone?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is Internet Explorer, not
Mozilla that's connecting.  In any case though, interesting.


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Thu Jan 13 18:19:08 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:19:08 -0500
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>

I asked this questions before, but I think it got lost/ignored in all 
the traffic.  So I'm asking it again.

Why would my clients number always be 113 larger than my number of 
listeners?  It was right earlier today, but when I restarted the sources 
it increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it 
especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this 
constantly exceeds it.

Where does this number come from, and what does it mean if it isn't the 
sum of the clients for each stream?  I know it should include static 
content as well, but I don't have 113 clients constantly downloading 
static content.  And why is it allowed to exceed my max clients anyway?

I actually asked another question too, but I think I'll ask one at a 
time this time so it's more likely to get noticed.

Joel


From paranoid at dds.nl  Thu Jan 13 21:54:23 2005
From: paranoid at dds.nl (paranoid)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:54:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501132249270.2421@yafa.dds.nl>


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Joel Ebel wrote:

> it increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it
> especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this
> constantly exceeds it.
> Where does this number come from, and what does it mean if it isn't the
> sum of the clients for each stream?  I know it should include static
> content as well, but I don't have 113 clients constantly downloading
> static content.  And why is it allowed to exceed my max clients anyway?

I think it 'remembers' all connections and keeps just incrementing that
number as new connections occure. See it as a counter for the total amount
of connections since the server was started. The true number of connected
clients can be extracted from the stats.xsl files in the servers admin
pages.

Regards,
Frank Keijzers

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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Thu Jan 13 22:39:43 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501132249270.2421@yafa.dds.nl>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0501132249270.2421@yafa.dds.nl>
Message-ID: <41E6F8AF.1040302@ncsu.edu>

I'm not talking about the client_connections variable, which does 
precisely what you describe.  I'm referring the the clients value. 
Which doesn't increment.  It goes up and down.  And it's always 113 more 
than the sum of the clients of each stream.

Joel


paranoid wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Joel Ebel wrote:
> 
> 
>>it increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it
>>especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this
>>constantly exceeds it.
>>Where does this number come from, and what does it mean if it isn't the
>>sum of the clients for each stream?  I know it should include static
>>content as well, but I don't have 113 clients constantly downloading
>>static content.  And why is it allowed to exceed my max clients anyway?
> 
> 
> I think it 'remembers' all connections and keeps just incrementing that
> number as new connections occure. See it as a counter for the total amount
> of connections since the server was started. The true number of connected
> clients can be extracted from the stats.xsl files in the servers admin
> pages.
> 
> Regards,
> Frank Keijzers
> 
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From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 22:54:58 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:54:58 +1100
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:19:08 -0500, Joel Ebel <jbebel at ncsu.edu> wrote:
> I asked this questions before, but I think it got lost/ignored in all
> the traffic.  So I'm asking it again.
> 
> Why would my clients number always be 113 larger than my number of
> listeners?  It was right earlier today, but when I restarted the sources
> it increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it
> especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this
> constantly exceeds it.
> 
> Where does this number come from, and what does it mean if it isn't the
> sum of the clients for each stream?  I know it should include static
> content as well, but I don't have 113 clients constantly downloading
> static content.  And why is it allowed to exceed my max clients anyway?
> 
> I actually asked another question too, but I think I'll ask one at a
> time this time so it's more likely to get noticed.
> 
> Joel

That's very strange. I've never seen that behaviour. Perhaps you could
give some more detailed explanations of how you've got things set up?

At a minimum:
  - icecast version (and what platform you're running it on)
  - icecast config file (with passwords blanked out, of course)
  - description of _precisely_ what figure you're looking at that's
113 off, and where you found that number.
  - description of what sources you have connected, etc.

Mike


From admin at reactio.org  Thu Jan 13 22:57:24 2005
From: admin at reactio.org (S. Schell)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:57:24 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Need help with Listener Authentication
Message-ID: <20050113225719.1ADFB286CC6@ns3.osuosl.org>

 

Hello everyone,

 

 

I set up everything on the icecast server but the authentification. I don't
know what I am doing wrong, so could someone maybe send me a functioning
icecast_full config file where I can check what I am doing wrong with this?

 

I already read the manual, but in this case the manual is too short - or my
brain is just too old ;) Or maybe I have to check for a special file on my
harddrive?

 

 

Any help is appreciated,

 

Best wishes

 

 

S. Schell

 

 

 

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From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Thu Jan 13 23:00:21 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:00:21 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] Ices Crashing (BUS error)
In-Reply-To: <41E67AE5.3040102@graver.xs4all.nl>
References: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>
	<3c17372105010914512c6eb7f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<41E67AE5.3040102@graver.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <3c173721050113150027911a47@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Frits Letteboer
<graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Michael Smith wrote:
>  > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:15:26 +0100, Frits Letteboer
>  > <graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>  >
>  >>Hi,
>  >>
>  >>I'm currently migrating from Shoutcast/MP3 to Icecast/OGG/Vorbis
> using ices.
>  >>
>  >>Unfortunately, when initialising the encoder, ices crashes with a bus
> error.
>  >
>  >
>  > It looks from the gdb output that it's crashing in libvorbis. Can you
>  > compile libvorbis AND ices with debugging symbols, and try again?
> 
> Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error.
> [Switching to Thread 1 (LWP 100163)]
> 0x2819e486 in _vp_couple (blobno=7, g=0x80adb34, p=0x80c8334, vi=0x80b0000,
>      res=0x805c960, mag_memo=0x8105930, mag_sort=0x8105960,
> ifloor=0x8105870,
>      nonzero=0xbfaedc70, sliding_lowpass=574) at psy.c:1167
> 1167            for(k=0;k<partition;k++){


That's very, very strange. I'd be very tempted to say that that line
couldn't possibly cause a bus fault (at least on x86)... but you seem
to have evidence to the contrary.

Can you reproduce this with any other vorbis encoders, using the same
version of libvorbis?

Can you try rebuilding libvorbis and ices with the optimisation level
reduced (or even turned off entirely)? I'd expect that to "fix" the
problem, but it might just be hiding something seriously wrong.

Sorry I can't give any more helpful advice - this is something I've
never seen before, and I really don't have much idea what could have
gone wrong.

Mike


From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan 13 23:05:34 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:05:34 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Need help with Listener Authentication
In-Reply-To: <20050113225719.1ADFB286CC6@ns3.osuosl.org>
References: <20050113225719.1ADFB286CC6@ns3.osuosl.org>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050113170236.033bd040@www.oddsock.org>

At 04:57 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>
>I set up everything on the icecast server but the authentification. I 
>don?t know what I am doing wrong, so could someone maybe send me a 
>functioning icecast_full config file where I can check what I am doing 
>wrong with this?
>
>I already read the manual, but in this case the manual is too short ? or 
>my brain is just too old ;) Or maybe I have to check for a special file on 
>my harddrive?
>

One of the example configs distributed with icecast has an example of 
listener auth.  What exactly are you having trouble with ?

You need to at a minimum :

1. supply a <mount> section named the same as the one you are connecting 
with your source client
2. add an <authentication> section to #1
3. Use the web-interface to add/delete users (you'll need to connect your 
source client first before you can do this)

oddsock

>
>Any help is appreciated,
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>S. Schell
>
>
>
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 13 23:40:13 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:40:13 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>

Hi:

The only thing I can think of that might cause your reencode not to work is 
that perhaps you have MP3 files with extensions with capital letters (i.e., 
not "mp3", but "MP3" or "Mp3" etc).  This maybe could cause the match to 
fail.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 13 23:42:00 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:42:00 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Mozilla Player?
In-Reply-To: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
References: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140941040.8521@data.home>

Ross Levis wrote:

> I noticed lately a few listeners on my Vorbis stream using a player called:
> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

This is Internet Explorer 6.0

Geoff.



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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 00:11:08 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:08 -0500
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
	<3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>



Michael Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:19:08 -0500, Joel Ebel <jbebel at ncsu.edu> wrote:
> 
>>I asked this questions before, but I think it got lost/ignored in all
>>the traffic.  So I'm asking it again.
>>
>>Why would my clients number always be 113 larger than my number of
>>listeners?  It was right earlier today, but when I restarted the sources
>>it increased by 113, and it has stayed that high since then.  I find it
>>especially odd since I have clients set to 100 in icecast.xml, and this
>>constantly exceeds it.
>>
>>Where does this number come from, and what does it mean if it isn't the
>>sum of the clients for each stream?  I know it should include static
>>content as well, but I don't have 113 clients constantly downloading
>>static content.  And why is it allowed to exceed my max clients anyway?
>>
>>I actually asked another question too, but I think I'll ask one at a
>>time this time so it's more likely to get noticed.
>>
>>Joel
> 
> 
> That's very strange. I've never seen that behaviour. Perhaps you could
> give some more detailed explanations of how you've got things set up?
> 
> At a minimum:
>   - icecast version (and what platform you're running it on)
Icecast 2.2.0 running on Slackware Linux 10.0

>   - icecast config file (with passwords blanked out, of course)
Config file is attached

>   - description of _precisely_ what figure you're looking at that's
> 113 off, and where you found that number.
I've attached a stats.xml which I got from my icecast server as I was 
typing this email.  At the top you see "<clients>131</clients>"  Under 
the sources below there is a <listener> value for each.  The non-zero 
values of these are 3, 4, 1, 2, and 8.  The sum of which is 18.  131 - 
18 = 113.  Every time I look at this, the listeners is different, but 
their sum is always 113 less than the value of <clients>.  When I first 
started the server, this wasn't true.  The sum of the <listeners> was 
equal to <clients>.  At some point it changed.  In any case, as you can 
see in my icecast.xml, <clients> is set to 100, so I feel like the 
<clents> is stats.xml shouldn't exceed it, but it does.

>   - description of what sources you have connected, etc.
I have 12 sources connected.  6 man streams using darkice, and 6 backup 
streams using ezstream set up as fallbacks with overrides.  half the 
streams are ogg, half are mp3.  For each there is a low, medium, and 
high quality stream.  I have the potential for one more high quality 
stream set up in the config.  That's for a backup studio to transmitter 
link, but that's not currently in service.

If there's any more information I can provide that would be helpful, I'd 
be more than happy to do so.  I can probably restart this server and get 
it back to normal, but I don't really want to disconnect all my listers, 
and I would like to track down the source of the inconsistency.

Joel
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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 00:18:26 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:18:26 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Need help with Listener Authentication
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050113170236.033bd040@www.oddsock.org>
References: <20050113225719.1ADFB286CC6@ns3.osuosl.org>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050113170236.033bd040@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <41E70FD2.2060009@ncsu.edu>

One particular gotcha with listener authentication.  Make sure the 
password file is writable.  If you start icecast as a user other than 
root, or use the changeowner option in the config, make sure the 
password file is writable by that user.  Other than that, the manual 
seems fairly complete.

Incidentally, I just sent a config to the list for another problem I'm 
having, but it does have a working authentication section if you wish to 
look at one.

Joel

oddsock wrote:
> At 04:57 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I set up everything on the icecast server but the authentification. I 
>> don?t know what I am doing wrong, so could someone maybe send me a 
>> functioning icecast_full config file where I can check what I am doing 
>> wrong with this?
>>
>> I already read the manual, but in this case the manual is too short ? 
>> or my brain is just too old ;) Or maybe I have to check for a special 
>> file on my harddrive?
>>
> 
> One of the example configs distributed with icecast has an example of 
> listener auth.  What exactly are you having trouble with ?
> 
> You need to at a minimum :
> 
> 1. supply a <mount> section named the same as the one you are connecting 
> with your source client
> 2. add an <authentication> section to #1
> 3. Use the web-interface to add/delete users (you'll need to connect 
> your source client first before you can do this)
> 
> oddsock
> 
>>
>> Any help is appreciated,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>
>> S. Schell
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> 
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From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Fri Jan 14 00:36:11 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:36:11 +1100
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
	<3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com> <41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <3c17372105011316361b514f85@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:08 -0500, Joel Ebel <jbebel at ncsu.edu> wrote:

> >   - icecast version (and what platform you're running it on)
> Icecast 2.2.0 running on Slackware Linux 10.0
> 
> >   - icecast config file (with passwords blanked out, of course)
> Config file is attached
> 
> >   - description of _precisely_ what figure you're looking at that's
> > 113 off, and where you found that number.
> I've attached a stats.xml which I got from my icecast server as I was
> typing this email.  At the top you see "<clients>131</clients>"  Under
> the sources below there is a <listener> value for each.  The non-zero
> values of these are 3, 4, 1, 2, and 8.  The sum of which is 18.  131 -
> 18 = 113.  Every time I look at this, the listeners is different, but
> their sum is always 113 less than the value of <clients>.  When I first
> started the server, this wasn't true.  The sum of the <listeners> was
> equal to <clients>.  At some point it changed.  In any case, as you can
> see in my icecast.xml, <clients> is set to 100, so I feel like the
> <clents> is stats.xml shouldn't exceed it, but it does.

I suspect this is just a stats bug. The stats are tracked
independently from the actual core datastructures that determine how
many current listeners there are, how many are allowed, etc. So though
this might be a little annoying, it doesn't look critical.

There's probably some case somewhere that can cause a connection to
counted, but the corresponding disconnection to not be counted.

We'll look into it.

Mike


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 00:54:46 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:54:46 -0500
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <3c17372105011316361b514f85@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>	
	<3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>
	<3c17372105011316361b514f85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41E71856.1000808@ncsu.edu>

Thanks for looking into it.

Joel

Michael Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:11:08 -0500, Joel Ebel <jbebel at ncsu.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>  - icecast version (and what platform you're running it on)
>>
>>Icecast 2.2.0 running on Slackware Linux 10.0
>>
>>
>>>  - icecast config file (with passwords blanked out, of course)
>>
>>Config file is attached
>>
>>
>>>  - description of _precisely_ what figure you're looking at that's
>>>113 off, and where you found that number.
>>
>>I've attached a stats.xml which I got from my icecast server as I was
>>typing this email.  At the top you see "<clients>131</clients>"  Under
>>the sources below there is a <listener> value for each.  The non-zero
>>values of these are 3, 4, 1, 2, and 8.  The sum of which is 18.  131 -
>>18 = 113.  Every time I look at this, the listeners is different, but
>>their sum is always 113 less than the value of <clients>.  When I first
>>started the server, this wasn't true.  The sum of the <listeners> was
>>equal to <clients>.  At some point it changed.  In any case, as you can
>>see in my icecast.xml, <clients> is set to 100, so I feel like the
>><clents> is stats.xml shouldn't exceed it, but it does.
> 
> 
> I suspect this is just a stats bug. The stats are tracked
> independently from the actual core datastructures that determine how
> many current listeners there are, how many are allowed, etc. So though
> this might be a little annoying, it doesn't look critical.
> 
> There's probably some case somewhere that can cause a connection to
> counted, but the corresponding disconnection to not be counted.
> 
> We'll look into it.
> 
> Mike


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 01:40:37 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:40:37 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication for multiple mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <41E72315.9040905@ncsu.edu>

So here was my other question that got missed.

> 1.  Is it ok to use the same password file for multiple mountpoints, or 
> will that cause problems?

I just want to us the same passwords for two different streams.  I'm 
also curious if this is in any way related to clusters or grouping 
mentioned in the new features of icecast 2.2.  I don't think it is, but 
I can't find any good documentation on what clusters or groups are, or 
how to use them if I wanted to.

Thanks,
Joel


From ml at imux.net  Fri Jan 14 03:26:46 2005
From: ml at imux.net (mlmeber)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 03:26:46 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Mozilla Player?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140941040.8521@data.home>
References: <00f101c4f954$65f60e90$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140941040.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <41E73BF6.5020002@imux.net>

Geoff Shang wrote:
> Ross Levis wrote:
> 
>> I noticed lately a few listeners on my Vorbis stream using a player 
>> called:
>> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
> 
> 
> This is Internet Explorer 6.0
> 
> Geoff.

And is quite possibly a plugin player, like quicktime, for example.

Stephen
Liveice Project http://liveice.sf.net


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 03:32:19 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:32:19 +1000
Subject: [Icecast]client connections seems high
In-Reply-To: <41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E6BB9C.908@ncsu.edu>
	<3c1737210501131454d18e5a5@mail.gmail.com> <41E70E1C.9060600@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501141331230.8521@data.home>

Joel Ebel wrote:

>        <clients>100</clients>
>        <sources>13</sources>

Hey, don't know if it's relevant, but these add up to 113.

Geoff.




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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 03:35:12 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:35:12 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication for multiple mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <41E72315.9040905@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu> <41E72315.9040905@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501141332360.8521@data.home>

Joel Ebel wrote:

> So here was my other question that got missed.
>> 1.  Is it ok to use the same password file for multiple mountpoints, or 
>> will that cause problems?

I shouldn't think so, but I've not used this feature.

> I just want to us the same passwords for two different streams.  I'm also 
> curious if this is in any way related to clusters or grouping mentioned in 
> the new features of icecast 2.2.  I don't think it is, but I can't find any 
> good documentation on what clusters or groups are, or how to use them if I 
> wanted to.

Clustering and grouping are both to do with YP listings. clustering allows 
you to list the same actual stream housed on different servers in the same 
directory listing, hence the need for a password.

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From rekoil at semihuman.com  Fri Jan 14 04:42:19 2005
From: rekoil at semihuman.com (Chris Woodfield)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:42:19 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 can't find playlists...
Message-ID: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>

Hello,

I've compiled and successfully run icecast2 with ices on a single 
stream. But I'm running into problems running multiple streams from 
ices to icecast...

I used the <playlist>...</playlist> syntax to run a single stream, but 
the docs on icecast.org seem to suggest using the <input>...</input> 
syntax instead. I've actually tried it both ways, with similar results: 
ices reports "Could not find a valid playlist file." and exits.

Here's both versions of my config...both of these are inside the 
<Stream>...</Stream> tags, and I've verified that the paths to the 
playlist.txt files are valid. If I use the same <Playlist> tags at the 
top of the file (outside the <stream> tags) and only configure one 
stream, it works. Can someone let me know what I'm going wrong?

Thanks,

-Chris

<input> syntax:
--------------------

<input>
       <module>playlist</module>
       <param name="type">basic</param>
       <param name="file">/opt/rekoil/mp3lib/elektro/playlist.txt</param>
       <param name="random">1</param>
       <param name="once">0</param>
</input>

<Playlist> syntax:

     <Playlist>
       <File>/opt/rekoil/mp3lib/elektro/playlist.txt</File>
       <Randomize>1</Randomize>
       <Type>builtin</Type>
       <Module>ices</Module>
     </Playlist>



From spectral at ludd.ltu.se  Fri Jan 14 05:06:20 2005
From: spectral at ludd.ltu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jonas_Nyr=E9n?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:06:20 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 can't find playlists...
In-Reply-To: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
References: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
Message-ID: <41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>

Chris Woodfield wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've compiled and successfully run icecast2 with ices on a single 
> stream. But I'm running into problems running multiple streams from 
> ices to icecast...
>
> I used the <playlist>...</playlist> syntax to run a single stream, but 
> the docs on icecast.org seem to suggest using the <input>...</input> 
> syntax instead. I've actually tried it both ways, with similar 
> results: ices reports "Could not find a valid playlist file." and exits.

This (<input> element) is for ices2 and not ices0.4 which you are using. 
To have multiple streams of the same playlist you should have multiple 
<stream> ... </stream> elements in the config. One for each stream you 
want to send.

> Here's both versions of my config...both of these are inside the 
> <Stream>...</Stream> tags, and I've verified that the paths to the 
> playlist.txt files are valid. If I use the same <Playlist> tags at the 
> top of the file (outside the <stream> tags) and only configure one 
> stream, it works. Can someone let me know what I'm going wrong?
>
Yes, the <playlist> element should be outside the <stream> element. As I 
said above you only need to have multiple <stream> elements.. (since you 
are streaming the same playlist in each "instance").

Hope this solves your problem.

/Jonas


From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 14 05:19:22 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:19:22 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] listener authentication for multiple mountpoints
In-Reply-To: <41E72315.9040905@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E30452.5020004@ncsu.edu>
 <41E72315.9040905@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050113230803.034c4460@www.oddsock.org>

At 07:40 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
>So here was my other question that got missed.
>
>>1.  Is it ok to use the same password file for multiple mountpoints, or 
>>will that cause problems?

no problems at all with this.

>I just want to us the same passwords for two different streams.  I'm also 
>curious if this is in any way related to clusters or grouping mentioned in 
>the new features of icecast 2.2.  I don't think it is, but I can't find 
>any good documentation on what clusters or groups are, or how to use them 
>if I wanted to.

cluster - a group of mountpoints from different icecast servers that should 
all contain the same exact content.  This is usually only used when a relay 
is setup.  In this case you configure the original stream and all it's 
relays with the same "cluster password" and they will appear as a single 
"unit" on the stream directory (YP).  When someone clicks on the listen 
link for that cluster, they are served an m3u that contains all the 
mountpoints in that cluster.

groups - The stream directory will group all mountpoints coming from the 
same listing IP and the same server name into a "group".  You might use 
this if you were broadcasting a single station in multiple bitrates.  In 
this case you would probably have a mountpoint for each bitrate.  And if 
you gave them all the same server name (server descriptions can be 
different) then they will be visually grouped together on the stream 
directory. http://dir.xiph.org/index.php?sgenre=&stype=&search=sluchaj is a 
good example of a server grouping... Note that you cannot do anything to 
make this grouping occur via icecast (outside of making sure that streams 
you want to group will come from the same listing IP and will have the same 
server name).  It is done by the stream directory itself.

oddsock 




From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 07:59:25 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:59:25 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>

Guten Morgen Geoff Shang,

Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 00:40 schrieben Sie:

GS> The only thing I can think of that might cause your reencode not to work is
GS> that perhaps you have MP3 files with extensions with capital letters (i.e.,
GS> not "mp3", but "MP3" or "Mp3" etc).  This maybe could cause the match to
GS> fail.

thank you for the answer.
i think it to, but the filenames in the playlist and in the
directory are correct. they are all ending with .mp3

what is the alternate to ezstream for streaming without a gui ?

thaks and have a nice day
carsten


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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 08:26:46 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:46 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
	<239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <474770884.20050114092646@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Carsten Henkel,

Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 08:59 schrieben Sie:

CH> what is the alternate to ezstream for streaming without a gui ?

is ices0.4 a good choice to stream & reencode playlists ?







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From brendan at xiph.org  Fri Jan 14 08:28:35 2005
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:28:35 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <474770884.20050114092646@chatlabel.de>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
	<239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>
	<474770884.20050114092646@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <20050114082835.GD26826@watanabe.local>

On Friday, 14 January 2005 at 09:26, Carsten Henkel wrote:
> Guten Tag Carsten Henkel,
> 
> Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 08:59 schrieben Sie:
> 
> CH> what is the alternate to ezstream for streaming without a gui ?
> 
> is ices0.4 a good choice to stream & reencode playlists ?

I think so. :)

I'd be surprised if it ran on windows though.


From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 08:41:48 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:41:48 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <20050114082835.GD26826@watanabe.local>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
	<239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>
	<474770884.20050114092646@chatlabel.de>
	<20050114082835.GD26826@watanabe.local>
Message-ID: <1111017749.20050114094148@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Brendan Cully,

Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 09:28 schrieben Sie:

BC> On Friday, 14 January 2005 at 09:26, Carsten Henkel wrote:
>> Guten Tag Carsten Henkel,
>> 
>> Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 08:59 schrieben Sie:
>> 
>> CH> what is the alternate to ezstream for streaming without a gui ?
>> 
>> is ices0.4 a good choice to stream & reencode playlists ?

BC> I think so. :)

BC> I'd be surprised if it ran on windows though.

yes, now i have read the doc to *g

i dont found the section for compiling ices with the reencode
function. where i can get informations about it ?

thank you



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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 09:12:48 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:12:48 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream  reencode
In-Reply-To: <1111017749.20050114094148@chatlabel.de>
References: <1988502144.20050113145738@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501140938270.8521@data.home>
	<239179978.20050114085925@chatlabel.de>
	<474770884.20050114092646@chatlabel.de>
	<20050114082835.GD26826@watanabe.local>
	<1111017749.20050114094148@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501141910200.8521@data.home>

Carsten Henkel wrote:

> i dont found the section for compiling ices with the reencode
> function. where i can get informations about it ?

As long as you have the lame libraries installed, including the development 
package (if you're using a package-based distribution), the Ices 0.4 
compile should detect it and compile support in automatically.  The 
configure script will give you a summary of features which are to be 
included, so you can see if reencoding will be included before you actually 
do the compile.

Geoff.



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From papa.schlumpf at my-mail.ch  Fri Jan 14 10:52:41 2005
From: papa.schlumpf at my-mail.ch (stefan himpelmaier)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:52:41 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ez-Stream and Error
Message-ID: <380-220051514105241809@my-mail.ch>

Hi....i will becam here an error under EZStream(Win32)
"Unknown format THEORA, passing right on through!
Unable to open file pipe:"...
Im usung the ffmpeg2theora-0.12.exe
here the XML File
Greets


<!-- This example is for a input playlist that can contain
     avi and mpg (video) files files and a output stream that
     is OggTheora.  The output stream settings  (bitrate, channels, etc.)
     are controlled by the parameters to ffmpeg2theora. (see the decode
setting
     for the THEORA format later in this file). -->
<ezstream>
    <url>http://xxx:8000/theora.ogg</url>
    <sourcepassword>xxx</sourcepassword>
    <!-- This is what form your output will take. If you are
         reencoding, this is the format to reencode to, if not
         then you need to make sure all your input files are in this
         format.  -->
    <format>THEORA</format>
    <filename>test.mpg</filename>
    <!-- The following settings are used to describe your stream
         to the server.  It's up to you to make sure the
         bitrate/quality/samplerate/channels
         match up to your output stream -->
    <svrinfoname>My Stream</svrinfoname>
    <svrinfourl>http://www.oddsock.org</svrinfourl>
    <svrinfogenre>RockNRoll</svrinfogenre>
    <svrinfodescription>This is a stream description</svrinfodescription>
    <svrinfobitrate>128</svrinfobitrate>
    <!-- Quality is only applicable to ogg vorbis streams -->
    <!-- <svrinfoquality>1.0</svrinfoquality> -->
    <svrinfochannels>2</svrinfochannels>
    <svrinfosamplerate>44100</svrinfosamplerate>
    <svrinfopublic>1</svrinfopublic>
    <reencode>
        <enable>1</enable>
        <!-- Each encdec block specifies a pair of programs used for
decoding and
             encoding of the stream.  If reencoding is enabled, then all
input files
             must be first decoded before being sent to the encoder. 
EZSTREAM uses
             file extensions to match up input files with the appropraite
decoder,
             and uses the <format> setting to match up the output format
with the
             appropriate encoder.

             Note: It it up to you to set the appropriate
bitrate/samplerate/channels
             of the output stream by using command line paramters to the
encoders. Use
             the examples defined here as a guide.  All output from
decoders should be in
             RAW format, and all input to the encoders should also be in
RAW format. -->
        <encdec>
                <!-- Support for THEORA (ffmpeg2theora does both decoding
and encoding
                                         so we don't need an encode part)
-->
                <format>THEORA</format>
                <match>.avi</match>
                <decode>ffmpeg2theora -x 192 -y 128 -a -1 -v 0 "@T@" -o
-</decode>
        </encdec>
        <encdec>
                <!-- Support for THEORA (ffmpeg2theora does both decoding
and encoding
                                         so we don't need an encode part)
-->
                <format>THEORA</format>
                <match>.mpg</match>
                <decode>ffmpeg2theora -a -1 -v 2 "@T@" -o -</decode>
        </encdec>
        <!-- New encdec sections can be added for new input/output formats
-->
    </reencode>
</ezstream>
                                                
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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 10:55:28 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:55:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
Message-ID: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>

hi,

  if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a
  lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro
  ?

  thank you

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From Jesper at exonet.nl  Fri Jan 14 11:40:09 2005
From: Jesper at exonet.nl (Jesper Weiland)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:40:09 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
Message-ID: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>

Hi Guys,

I'm using the icecast-2.1-kh5 for the intro feature. The intro works, 
but after the intro it stops. It does not go on
with the stream. When I comment the intro part, the stream works perfectly.

Does anybody know what I can do to solve this problem?

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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 11:41:01 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:41:01 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] cpu time by reencode
Message-ID: <192234800.20050114124101@chatlabel.de>

hi,

  ices with reencode make al lot of cpu work. the pid need more then
  20% of it. its a 2,8 ghz cpu. is it normal ?

  thanks

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From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Fri Jan 14 12:09:28 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:09:28 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] cpu time by reencode
In-Reply-To: <192234800.20050114124101@chatlabel.de>
References: <192234800.20050114124101@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <41E7B678.3070307@graver.xs4all.nl>

Carsten Henkel wrote:
> hi,
> 
>   ices with reencode make al lot of cpu work. the pid need more then
>   20% of it. its a 2,8 ghz cpu. is it normal ?

Ices uses about 10-12% while transcoding on a 2.4GHz PIV on FreeBSD 4.11RC2


From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Fri Jan 14 12:12:46 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:46 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
In-Reply-To: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
References: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
Message-ID: <41E7B73E.4060707@graver.xs4all.nl>

Jesper Weiland wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I'm using the icecast-2.1-kh5 for the intro feature. The intro works, 
> but after the intro it stops. It does not go on
> with the stream. When I comment the intro part, the stream works perfectly.
> 
> Does anybody know what I can do to solve this problem?
> 

Does the introfile has the same properties as the following stream? ie. 
Same bitrate, frequency, etc?


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 12:22:32 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:22:32 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
In-Reply-To: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
References: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>

Carsten Henkel wrote:

> hi,
>  if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a
>  lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro
>  ?

MP3.  LAME does not do MP3Pro.  And in fact, the stream that is reencoded 
will also only be a reencode of the MP3-compatible layer of the MP3Pro 
stream, as Ices does not know how to decode MP3Pro streams fully.

Geoff.



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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 12:24:20 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:24:20 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
In-Reply-To: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
References: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142222421.8521@data.home>

Jesper Weiland wrote:

> I'm using the icecast-2.1-kh5 for the intro feature. The intro works, but 
> after the intro it stops. It does not go on
> with the stream. When I comment the intro part, the stream works perfectly.
>
> Does anybody know what I can do to solve this problem?

I've not tried this feature, but are you sure that your intro file and the 
stream are the same exact format?  If you're streaming MP3, this is 
important.  If it's Ogg Vorbis, it should be able to cope.

Geoff.



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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 12:25:27 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:25:27 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] cpu time by reencode
In-Reply-To: <192234800.20050114124101@chatlabel.de>
References: <192234800.20050114124101@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142224300.8521@data.home>

Carsten Henkel wrote:

>  ices with reencode make al lot of cpu work. the pid need more then
>  20% of it. its a 2,8 ghz cpu. is it normal ?

Depends what format you're reencoding to, but as a general rule I'd think 
not.

Geoff.


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From Jesper at exonet.nl  Fri Jan 14 12:27:35 2005
From: Jesper at exonet.nl (Jesper Weiland)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:27:35 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142222421.8521@data.home>
References: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142222421.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <41E7BAB7.30105@exonet.nl>

Hi,

> I've not tried this feature, but are you sure that your intro file and 
> the stream are the same exact format?  If you're streaming MP3, this 
> is important.  If it's Ogg Vorbis, it should be able to cope.

Now it is! It had a different samplerate. Now it works. :-)

Thanks!

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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 14 12:42:36 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:42:36 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>
References: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <08684602.20050114134236@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Geoff Shang,

Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2005 um 13:22 schrieben Sie:

GS> Carsten Henkel wrote:
>>  if i reencode a stream that is in mp3pro (streamed with sam) to a
>>  lower bitrate by using ices/lame, is the reencoded stream mp3 or mp3pro
GS> MP3.  LAME does not do MP3Pro.  And in fact, the stream that is reencoded
GS> will also only be a reencode of the MP3-compatible layer of the MP3Pro
GS> stream, as Ices does not know how to decode MP3Pro streams fully.

thank you for the information. is there a way to encode mp3pro with
linux ?

have a nice day

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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 12:47:37 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:47:37 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
In-Reply-To: <08684602.20050114134236@chatlabel.de>
References: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>
	<08684602.20050114134236@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142245500.8521@data.home>

Carsten Henkel wrote:

> thank you for the information. is there a way to encode mp3pro with
> linux ?

There's no free implementation that I'm aware of.  Thompson may be able to 
sell you something, but I've no idea how much it will cost.  Frankly, I'd 
move to Ogg Vorbis, it's supported by more players anyway.

Geoff.


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From rekoil at semihuman.com  Fri Jan 14 14:06:56 2005
From: rekoil at semihuman.com (Chris Woodfield)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:06:56 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 can't find playlists...
In-Reply-To: <41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>
References: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
	<41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>
Message-ID: <8CC9C797-6635-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>

Maybe I didn't fully explain...I'm trying to stream multiple playlists. 
The config bit I included was only one of the playlists. I can send my 
complete ices.conf if you'd like...

-C

On Jan 14, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Jonas Nyr?n wrote:

> Chris Woodfield wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've compiled and successfully run icecast2 with ices on a single 
>> stream. But I'm running into problems running multiple streams from 
>> ices to icecast...
>>
>> I used the <playlist>...</playlist> syntax to run a single stream, 
>> but the docs on icecast.org seem to suggest using the 
>> <input>...</input> syntax instead. I've actually tried it both ways, 
>> with similar results: ices reports "Could not find a valid playlist 
>> file." and exits.
>
> This (<input> element) is for ices2 and not ices0.4 which you are 
> using. To have multiple streams of the same playlist you should have 
> multiple <stream> ... </stream> elements in the config. One for each 
> stream you want to send.
>
>> Here's both versions of my config...both of these are inside the 
>> <Stream>...</Stream> tags, and I've verified that the paths to the 
>> playlist.txt files are valid. If I use the same <Playlist> tags at 
>> the top of the file (outside the <stream> tags) and only configure 
>> one stream, it works. Can someone let me know what I'm going wrong?
>>
> Yes, the <playlist> element should be outside the <stream> element. As 
> I said above you only need to have multiple <stream> elements.. (since 
> you are streaming the same playlist in each "instance").
>
> Hope this solves your problem.
>
> /Jonas



From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan 14 14:34:25 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 14 Jan 2005 14:34:25 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
In-Reply-To: <41E7BAB7.30105@exonet.nl>
References: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142222421.8521@data.home> <41E7BAB7.30105@exonet.nl>
Message-ID: <1105713263.18863.9.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 12:27, Jesper Weiland wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > I've not tried this feature, but are you sure that your intro file and 
> > the stream are the same exact format?  If you're streaming MP3, this 
> > is important.  If it's Ogg Vorbis, it should be able to cope.
> 
> Now it is! It had a different samplerate. Now it works. :-)

whenever there is a midstream change to channels or samplerate then some
players/drivers get confused.

My xmms/alsa setup seems to be ok with those changes with ogg and I
think it's ok with mp3 but many other players/drivers are not.

karl.




From rekoil at semihuman.com  Fri Jan 14 14:39:25 2005
From: rekoil at semihuman.com (Chris Woodfield)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:39:25 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 can't find playlists...
In-Reply-To: <41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>
References: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
	<41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>
Message-ID: <165EF1A0-663A-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>

Maybe I'm misunderstanding ices' capabilities...is ices 0.4 only 
capably of handling a single playlist? Do I need to run multiple 
instances of ices in order to process multiple playlists?

My issue is that I need to stream mp3 audio, not ogg (iTunes doesn't 
support .ogg yet natively), and if I'm reading the docs correctly, 
ices2 only supports .ogg, not .mp3. Is this correct, and if so, are 
there other options?

Thanks,

-Chris

On Jan 14, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Jonas Nyr?n wrote:

> Chris Woodfield wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've compiled and successfully run icecast2 with ices on a single 
>> stream. But I'm running into problems running multiple streams from 
>> ices to icecast...
>>
>> I used the <playlist>...</playlist> syntax to run a single stream, 
>> but the docs on icecast.org seem to suggest using the 
>> <input>...</input> syntax instead. I've actually tried it both ways, 
>> with similar results: ices reports "Could not find a valid playlist 
>> file." and exits.
>
> This (<input> element) is for ices2 and not ices0.4 which you are 
> using. To have multiple streams of the same playlist you should have 
> multiple <stream> ... </stream> elements in the config. One for each 
> stream you want to send.
>
>> Here's both versions of my config...both of these are inside the 
>> <Stream>...</Stream> tags, and I've verified that the paths to the 
>> playlist.txt files are valid. If I use the same <Playlist> tags at 
>> the top of the file (outside the <stream> tags) and only configure 
>> one stream, it works. Can someone let me know what I'm going wrong?
>>
> Yes, the <playlist> element should be outside the <stream> element. As 
> I said above you only need to have multiple <stream> elements.. (since 
> you are streaming the same playlist in each "instance").
>
> Hope this solves your problem.
>
> /Jonas



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 14 14:41:00 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:41:00 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Ez-Stream and Error
In-Reply-To: <380-220051514105241809@my-mail.ch>
References: <380-220051514105241809@my-mail.ch>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050114083927.034bbce0@www.oddsock.org>

unfortunately, on win32, you will need the current svn version of 
ffmpeg2theora until .13 is released.  Until then you can download a win32 
binary here -> http://www.oddsock.org/guides/ffmpeg2theora.exe

oddsock
At 04:52 AM 1/14/2005, you wrote:
>Hi....i will becam here an error under EZStream(Win32)
>"Unknown format THEORA, passing right on through!
>Unable to open file pipe:"...
>Im usung the ffmpeg2theora-0.12.exe
>here the XML File
>Greets
>
>
><!-- This example is for a input playlist that can contain
>      avi and mpg (video) files files and a output stream that
>      is OggTheora.  The output stream settings  (bitrate, channels, etc.)
>      are controlled by the parameters to ffmpeg2theora. (see the decode
>setting
>      for the THEORA format later in this file). -->
><ezstream>
>     <url>http://xxx:8000/theora.ogg</url>
>     <sourcepassword>xxx</sourcepassword>
>     <!-- This is what form your output will take. If you are
>          reencoding, this is the format to reencode to, if not
>          then you need to make sure all your input files are in this
>          format.  -->
>     <format>THEORA</format>
>     <filename>test.mpg</filename>
>     <!-- The following settings are used to describe your stream
>          to the server.  It's up to you to make sure the
>          bitrate/quality/samplerate/channels
>          match up to your output stream -->
>     <svrinfoname>My Stream</svrinfoname>
>     <svrinfourl>http://www.oddsock.org</svrinfourl>
>     <svrinfogenre>RockNRoll</svrinfogenre>
>     <svrinfodescription>This is a stream description</svrinfodescription>
>     <svrinfobitrate>128</svrinfobitrate>
>     <!-- Quality is only applicable to ogg vorbis streams -->
>     <!-- <svrinfoquality>1.0</svrinfoquality> -->
>     <svrinfochannels>2</svrinfochannels>
>     <svrinfosamplerate>44100</svrinfosamplerate>
>     <svrinfopublic>1</svrinfopublic>
>     <reencode>
>         <enable>1</enable>
>         <!-- Each encdec block specifies a pair of programs used for
>decoding and
>              encoding of the stream.  If reencoding is enabled, then all
>input files
>              must be first decoded before being sent to the encoder.
>EZSTREAM uses
>              file extensions to match up input files with the appropraite
>decoder,
>              and uses the <format> setting to match up the output format
>with the
>              appropriate encoder.
>
>              Note: It it up to you to set the appropriate
>bitrate/samplerate/channels
>              of the output stream by using command line paramters to the
>encoders. Use
>              the examples defined here as a guide.  All output from
>decoders should be in
>              RAW format, and all input to the encoders should also be in
>RAW format. -->
>         <encdec>
>                 <!-- Support for THEORA (ffmpeg2theora does both decoding
>and encoding
>                                          so we don't need an encode part)
>-->
>                 <format>THEORA</format>
>                 <match>.avi</match>
>                 <decode>ffmpeg2theora -x 192 -y 128 -a -1 -v 0 "@T@" -o
>-</decode>
>         </encdec>
>         <encdec>
>                 <!-- Support for THEORA (ffmpeg2theora does both decoding
>and encoding
>                                          so we don't need an encode part)
>-->
>                 <format>THEORA</format>
>                 <match>.mpg</match>
>                 <decode>ffmpeg2theora -a -1 -v 2 "@T@" -o -</decode>
>         </encdec>
>         <!-- New encdec sections can be added for new input/output formats
>-->
>     </reencode>
></ezstream>
>
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 14:55:19 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:55:19 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 can't find playlists...
In-Reply-To: <165EF1A0-663A-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
References: <ACCA5847-65E6-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
	<41E7534C.7090407@ludd.ltu.se>
	<165EF1A0-663A-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501150053010.8521@data.home>

Chris Woodfield wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding ices' capabilities...is ices 0.4 only capably of 
> handling a single playlist? Do I need to run multiple instances of ices in 
> order to process multiple playlists?

That's correct.  YOu can send different instances of the same playlist to 
multiple servers, either in the same or different MP3 formats, but only the 
one playlist can be served with one instance of Ices (either version).

Geoff.



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From rekoil at semihuman.com  Fri Jan 14 16:10:03 2005
From: rekoil at semihuman.com (Chris Woodfield)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 playlist updating...
Message-ID: <BFF6060A-6646-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>

A simple question, but I can't seem to find an answer online...if you 
update the playlist file while ices is running, will ices 0.4 reread 
the modified file automatically, or do you need to -HUP (or stop and 
restart) it?

-C



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 14 16:15:40 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:15:40 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices 0.4 playlist updating...
In-Reply-To: <BFF6060A-6646-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
References: <BFF6060A-6646-11D9-A860-000A95DA603A@semihuman.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501150213180.8521@data.home>

Chris Woodfield wrote:

> A simple question, but I can't seem to find an answer online...if you update 
> the playlist file while ices is running, will ices 0.4 reread the modified 
> file automatically, or do you need to -HUP (or stop and restart) it?

uh... If I remember correctly, I think 0.4 will notice the change, either 
at the end of the file or at the end of the current track (can't remember 
which), but it doesn't start at the beginning of the new list, it starts at 
the equivalent place in the new list.  This is for a basic sequential 
playlist, I don't think it works for random ones.

Some stuff to better deal with this was checked into SVN since 0.4 was 
released, but can't remember exactly what it was.

Geoff.




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From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 16:58:07 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:58:07 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Links in stats.xsl
Message-ID: <41E7FA1F.3050602@ncsu.edu>

Is there any reason in stats.xsl that the listenurl and server_url 
values for each mountpoint couldn't be presented as a link?  Just a 
suggestion, perhaps for a future link.  It would just be easier to click 
on it there than going to the status page and clicking on it, so I can't 
think of why it should be a link in stats.xsl too.

Thanks,
Joel


From mike at altrion.org  Fri Jan 14 18:58:43 2005
From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:58:43 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142245500.8521@data.home>
References: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>
	<08684602.20050114134236@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142245500.8521@data.home>
Message-ID: <4FBBF997-665E-11D9-9384-000502B381CE@altrion.org>

> There's no free implementation that I'm aware of.  Thompson may be 
> able to sell you something, but I've no idea how much it will cost.  
> Frankly, I'd move to Ogg Vorbis, it's supported by more players 
> anyway.

 From a quality standpoint, I'd love to, but from a 'supporting paid 
users of a stream with minimal effort' standpoint, the amount of effort 
necessary to get the right player or codec in the hands of casual 
non-techie computer users makes it not worth it.



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 14 19:03:56 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Reencoding mp3pro in mp3pro or mp3 with ices
In-Reply-To: <4FBBF997-665E-11D9-9384-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
References: <224932359.20050114115528@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142220420.8521@data.home>
	<08684602.20050114134236@chatlabel.de>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501142245500.8521@data.home>
	<4FBBF997-665E-11D9-9384-000502B381CE@altrion.org>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050114130127.01d6c580@www.oddsock.org>

At 12:58 PM 1/14/2005, you wrote:
>>There's no free implementation that I'm aware of.  Thompson may be able 
>>to sell you something, but I've no idea how much it will cost.
>>Frankly, I'd move to Ogg Vorbis, it's supported by more players anyway.
>
> From a quality standpoint, I'd love to, but from a 'supporting paid users 
> of a stream with minimal effort' standpoint, the amount of effort 
> necessary to get the right player or codec in the hands of casual 
> non-techie computer users makes it not worth it.

are you saying that mp3pro is more supported client-wise than ogg vorbis 
?  That's actually far from the truth.

oddsock




From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Fri Jan 14 19:58:32 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] A few more ezstream questions
Message-ID: <41E82468.6060206@ncsu.edu>

I know you guys are tired of me asking questions.  I promise it will 
slow down soon.  But I have a few more questions about ezstream.

1.  How can I redirect the ezstream output to a file?  Every time I give 
ezstream a pipe or redirection of the command line, it doesn't output 
anything at all?  I've had ezstream 0.1.2 shut down on me after several 
hours and I was hoping to retrieve an error message or something so I 
could track it down.

2.  I'm only using ezstream to repeat a 30s backup message over and 
over, but I'm doing it with 6 different formats.  Starting apparently 
with ezstream 0.1.3, ezstream preforms a metadata update through the 
admin interface.  First, I don't quite understand why it's doing this, 
since it's not going to change, but more importantly, I'd like to know 
how I can disable it.  It certainly isn't necessary for me repeating the 
same clip over and over again, and it just clutters my icecast logs with 
12 extra lines per minute.  Is there something I can easily change in 
the code to turn off this behavior?  I'd go back to 0.1.2, but as 
previously mentioned it quits after a while, and I'm still trying to 
find a solution to that.

And once again, I'd really recommend putting a note on the ezstream 
website that it requires the latest daily build of libshout to compile.

Thanks again.  And I promise I'll eventually answer more questions than 
I ask on this list.

Joel


From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan 14 20:55:22 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 14 Jan 2005 20:55:22 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Links in stats.xsl
In-Reply-To: <41E7FA1F.3050602@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E7FA1F.3050602@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <1105736121.2384.3.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:58, Joel Ebel wrote:
> Is there any reason in stats.xsl that the listenurl and server_url 
> values for each mountpoint couldn't be presented as a link?  Just a 
> suggestion, perhaps for a future link.  It would just be easier to click 
> on it there than going to the status page and clicking on it, so I can't 
> think of why it should be a link in stats.xsl too.

The .m3u links can be made in the stats.xsl file just as they are on the
status.xsl page.  Report it on trac.xiph.org so it doesn't get
forgotten.

karl.




From suminigashi at cox.net  Sat Jan 15 07:58:22 2005
From: suminigashi at cox.net (Brent Davis)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:58:22 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream keeps getting glibc error on song
Message-ID: <41E8CD1E.4040607@cox.net>

Hello everyone,
    I just setup an mp3 streaming server on an old laptop I had laying 
around using icecast and ezstream. The problem I am having is that when 
ezstream gets to a certain song in a playlist I get the error "*** glibc 
detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x080576e0 ***". I'm not 
sure if it is doing this because of  the song number it is or if it is a 
problem with ezstream. I do know, however, that the mp3 plays fine when 
using xmms, winamp, and anything else. I'm going to try and remove the 
song from the playlist and see what happens then, but if anyone else 
knows what the problem maybe I would appreciate your help.

- Thanks
- Suminigashi


From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sat Jan 15 14:14:44 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:14:44 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream keeps getting glibc error on song
In-Reply-To: <41E8CD1E.4040607@cox.net>
References: <41E8CD1E.4040607@cox.net>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050115081221.034a4f80@www.oddsock.org>

At 01:58 AM 1/15/2005, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>    I just setup an mp3 streaming server on an old laptop I had laying 
> around using icecast and ezstream. The problem I am having is that when 
> ezstream gets to a certain song in a playlist I get the error "*** glibc 
> detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x080576e0 ***". I'm not 
> sure if it is doing this because of  the song number it is or if it is a 
> problem with ezstream. I do know, however, that the mp3 plays fine when 
> using xmms, winamp, and anything else. I'm going to try and remove the 
> song from the playlist and see what happens then, but if anyone else 
> knows what the problem maybe I would appreciate your help.

try doing a debug build (make clean;make debug) and then run ezstream under 
gdb.  The command "bt" will show a backtrace that indicates where the 
problem will be.  Send me that backtrace (to the list of privately either 
way)...

oddsock




From oddsock at oddsock.org  Sat Jan 15 14:23:07 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:23:07 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] A few more ezstream questions
In-Reply-To: <41E82468.6060206@ncsu.edu>
References: <41E82468.6060206@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050115081455.01d46a18@www.oddsock.org>

At 01:58 PM 1/14/2005, you wrote:
>I know you guys are tired of me asking questions.  I promise it will slow 
>down soon.  But I have a few more questions about ezstream.
>
>1.  How can I redirect the ezstream output to a file?  Every time I give 
>ezstream a pipe or redirection of the command line, it doesn't output 
>anything at all?  I've had ezstream 0.1.2 shut down on me after several 
>hours and I was hoping to retrieve an error message or something so I 
>could track it down.

that's odd, what platform are you running on ? how are you redirecting the 
output.  ezstream currently uses printf to print to stdout, (this will 
change soon as soon as I get a spare minute), so you should be able to use 
simple shell redirection..

>2.  I'm only using ezstream to repeat a 30s backup message over and over, 
>but I'm doing it with 6 different formats.  Starting apparently with 
>ezstream 0.1.3, ezstream preforms a metadata update through the admin 
>interface.  First, I don't quite understand why it's doing this, since 
>it's not going to change, but more importantly, I'd like to know how I can 
>disable it.  It certainly isn't necessary for me repeating the same clip 
>over and over again, and it just clutters my icecast logs with 12 extra 
>lines per minute.  Is there something I can easily change in the code to 
>turn off this behavior?  I'd go back to 0.1.2, but as previously mentioned 
>it quits after a while, and I'm still trying to find a solution to that.

there is currently not a way to turn off the metadata update.  you could 
turn it off by removing the call to shout_set_metadata() in ezstream.c, 
however that's not something I plan on making configurable...

oddsock 




From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Sat Jan 15 16:01:10 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:01:10 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] A few more ezstream questions
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050115081455.01d46a18@www.oddsock.org>
References: <41E82468.6060206@ncsu.edu>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050115081455.01d46a18@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <41E93E46.8000403@ncsu.edu>

oddsock wrote:
> At 01:58 PM 1/14/2005, you wrote:
>> 1.  How can I redirect the ezstream output to a file?  Every time I 
>> give ezstream a pipe or redirection of the command line, it doesn't 
>> output anything at all?  I've had ezstream 0.1.2 shut down on me after 
>> several hours and I was hoping to retrieve an error message or 
>> something so I could track it down.
> 
> 
> that's odd, what platform are you running on ? how are you redirecting 
> the output.  ezstream currently uses printf to print to stdout, (this 
> will change soon as soon as I get a spare minute), so you should be able 
> to use simple shell redirection..

I'm running it on Slackware Linux 10.0.  You might find it interesting 
that the usage message can be redirected, but the messages "Streaming 
[fileName]" do not get redirected.  The easy test for this is to add | 
cat to the command line.  Here's some examples of what happens on my system:

root at wknc:/usr/local/etc/ezstream# ezstream -c test.xml
Connecting to http://localhost:8002/test.ogg...SUCCESS.
Streaming /usr/local/etc/ezstream/messages/test.ogg
Opening file (/usr/local/etc/ezstream/messages/test.ogg)
Songinfo is ()

root at wknc:/usr/local/etc/ezstream# ezstream -c test.xml | cat

root at wknc:/usr/local/etc/ezstream# ezstream | cat
You must supply a config file
usage: ezstream -h -c ezstream.xml
where :
         -h = display this help
         -c = ezstream config file


> 
>> 2.  I'm only using ezstream to repeat a 30s backup message over and 
>> over, but I'm doing it with 6 different formats.  Starting apparently 
>> with ezstream 0.1.3, ezstream preforms a metadata update through the 
>> admin interface.  First, I don't quite understand why it's doing this, 
>> since it's not going to change, but more importantly, I'd like to know 
>> how I can disable it.  It certainly isn't necessary for me repeating 
>> the same clip over and over again, and it just clutters my icecast 
>> logs with 12 extra lines per minute.  Is there something I can easily 
>> change in the code to turn off this behavior?  I'd go back to 0.1.2, 
>> but as previously mentioned it quits after a while, and I'm still 
>> trying to find a solution to that.
> 
> 
> there is currently not a way to turn off the metadata update.  you could 
> turn it off by removing the call to shout_set_metadata() in ezstream.c, 
> however that's not something I plan on making configurable...

I can handle that.  I've been making lots of source modifications 
recently.  Mostly to darkice.  I see shout_set_metadata in two places. 
Looks like you created a function to set the metadata but didn't use it. 
  I'll take a look at it soon.  It might raise some more questions about 
metadata, but I'll try to figure it out on my own first.

Joel


From jakarhill at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 15 17:03:00 2005
From: jakarhill at yahoo.com (Randolph Davis Hill)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:03:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Icecast] New guy on the block
Message-ID: <20050115170300.298.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>

I am new to icecast. My home project is to stream some of my music
that I have composed over the Internet. If possible, if someone can
provide me some quick pointers ?
I would appreciate it.


Randy


From danstowell at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 18:19:34 2005
From: danstowell at gmail.com (Dan Stowell)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:19:34 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] New guy on the block
In-Reply-To: <20050115170300.298.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050115170300.298.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <286e6b7c05011510193344cc81@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Randy,

Here's my advice - I'm a relative newbie myself but hopefully the
little I've learnt will be useful to you:

(1) Install icecast for the broadcasting, and also install "ices" for
the actual playing of the files. Use ices 0.4 if you want MP3, or ices
2 if you want Ogg Vorbis.

(2) Create a folder on your system, and in that folder store your
music - ideally, pre-converted into the exact format you want it
streaming at (e.g. 32kbps mono MP3, or 190kbps stereo MP3... you get
the point). Create a playlist file - a simple text file listing the
paths to each of those files (one per line).

(3) Configure icecast (edit one of the example config files to match
your own needs).

(4) Configures ices (ditto - configure it to read the playlist
information from that text file you created earlier).

(5) Start icecast.

(6) Start ices.

In theory, that's all you need to do - hey presto, you're streaming!
In reality, you'll need to struggle with the config files for a while
because the config is a bit confusing. The documentation isn't 100%
clear about every single detail, to be blunt, which is why it's good
that the nice people on this mailing list are so helpful!

I hope this is the kind of info you were after. Icecast and ices can
both do much more than this simple playlist-playing, but you might
like to start in this mode and then later on you can think about
extending the functionality (e.g. to dynamically generate the playlist
from Perl, add multiple streams).

Dan
http://www.flatfourradio.co.uk

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:03:00 -0800 (PST), Randolph Davis Hill
<jakarhill at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am new to icecast. My home project is to stream some of my music
> that I have composed over the Internet. If possible, if someone can
> provide me some quick pointers ?
> I would appreciate it.
> 
> Randy
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From ronblok at wxs.nl  Sat Jan 15 19:06:13 2005
From: ronblok at wxs.nl (Ron Blok)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:06:13 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <286e6b7c05011301125118c4d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICOEFECLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>

Dan,

Thanks for the recommendation .. Installed Ices ... and it works like a
dream!
Starting to think the stability of the liveice-sn04 application is less than
I hoped.
Are there any recommendations for a live audio streamer application?

Regards Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org]On Behalf Of
Dan Stowell
Sent: donderdag 13 januari 2005 10:12
To: icecast
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Recomendations


Hi Ron,

I'd definitely recommend Ices - seems like the most robust little
thing in the world to me, although I'm not an expert, just a user. We
use it (ices0 actually, because we wanted MP3 broadcasting) to
broadcast our main radio stream at http://www.flatfourradio.co.uk and
no complaints at all.

Dan


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:42:25 +0100, Ron Blok <ronblok at wxs.nl> wrote:
> Dear Icecast community,
>
> For several weeks I am running two IceCast2 streams.
> I am very pleased with the stability and performance of the Icecast
> application.
> Thumbs-up for the developers of this great piece of software!!
>
> The sources (live audio) are generated with two separated liveice-sn04 and
> streams to the remote Icecast servers.
> So far so good!
> Frequently one of the sources stops to stream .... no relation to the
> internet connectivity or other obvious reasons.
> In order not to lose the listeners I am planning to configure the Icecast
> servers with a fallback mount.
> This fallback mount should be generated on the Icecast servers itself in
> order to make it undependable of the feeding sources.
> The remote source will play a file or several files with an announcement
> that the broadcast is interrupted etc ... over and over. In this way there
> will always be an audio stream even during maintenance of the stream
> feeders.
>
> Done some reading how to set-up such a scheme and I believe I do
understand
> how to configure the Icast servers for fallback and the override feature.
>
> Now here comes where I need your advice...
> Since the whole thing is depending on the availability of the /backup
> source, generated on the Icecast server itself I am looking for a robust
mp3
> and/or oogvorbis stream feeder that plays 24/7 the announcement file ....
> Checked the several recommended applications like Ices and so one ... but
> not sure which one to use.
> Knowing that the stream sources is giving me such a bad time I would like
> your recommendation which stream application you recommend in this set-up
> and or if you have any other recommendations how to proceed.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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From freakbase at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 15 19:50:18 2005
From: freakbase at yahoo.com (Tom Base [LOUNGE-RADIO])
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:50:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Icecast] searching for a script which parse the xml to a php site
	(last played tracks)
Message-ID: <20050115195019.88535.qmail@web52708.mail.yahoo.com>

hello

i'm new with icecast2 but allready addicted to this
nice code. i installed icecast2 a few weeks ago an its
running stable in my test environment. i'm thinking on
a productiv switch for the next month.

for our radio station i'm searching a php script,
which is able to parse the XML data and shows up the
last played tracks. has anyone of you allready did
such a script and would share it ?

thanx for you help

cheers
tom

http://www.lounge-radio.com


	

	
		
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 16 00:00:35 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:00:35 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICOEFECLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>
References: <HEEEKMFOKCBDNFDLFLICOEFECLAA.ronblok@wxs.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501160958340.8521@data.home>

Ron Blok wrote:

> Are there any recommendations for a live audio streamer application?

I use Darkice for MP3 (http://darkice.sourceforge.net), though I understand 
it will do Ogg Vorbis as well.  I usually use Ices2 for Ogg Vorbis.  Have 
had no trouble with either.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 16 00:03:27 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:03:27 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] New guy on the block
In-Reply-To: <286e6b7c05011510193344cc81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050115170300.298.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com>
	<286e6b7c05011510193344cc81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501161000520.8521@data.home>

Dan Stowell wrote:

> Hi Randy,
> Here's my advice - I'm a relative newbie myself but hopefully the
> little I've learnt will be useful to you:
>
> (1) Install icecast for the broadcasting, and also install "ices" for
> the actual playing of the files. Use ices 0.4 if you want MP3, or ices
> 2 if you want Ogg Vorbis.

This assumes Randy is using LInux, FreeBSD, etc.  Ices isn't going to fly 
on Win32.

You could also use EZStream on either Windows or *nix, or something like 
Oddsock's Oddcast DSP plugin with one of its supported players.

Geoff.




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From spectral at ludd.ltu.se  Sun Jan 16 01:32:08 2005
From: spectral at ludd.ltu.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jonas_Nyr=E9n?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:32:08 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] searching for a script which parse the xml to a php
	site	(last played tracks)
In-Reply-To: <20050115195019.88535.qmail@web52708.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050115195019.88535.qmail@web52708.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41E9C418.9080704@ludd.ltu.se>

Tom Base [LOUNGE-RADIO] wrote:

>for our radio station i'm searching a php script,
>which is able to parse the XML data and shows up the
>last played tracks. has anyone of you allready did
>such a script and would share it ?
>
>thanx for you help
>  
>
Try this:
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2004-September/007553.html

/Jonas


From darrell at ku24.com  Sun Jan 16 10:18:46 2005
From: darrell at ku24.com (Darrell Berry)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:18:46 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] two problems with flac and ices  0.4 build
Message-ID: <41EA3F86.4070801@ku24.com>

i'm trying to build ices0.4 and vorbis-tools 1.0.1 with flac 1.1.1. 
Neither seems happy, hence the crossposting (sorry).

ICES0.4
---

ices refuses to see the libFLAC library, even if i specify 
--with-flac=/usr/local/lib (or even just --with-flac=/usr/local/, as the 
configure script seems to look in the lib and include subdirectories of 
the specified path?). i get a configure error:

configure: error: Could not find libFLAC

(can provide trace of ./configure if that would help anyone). FWIW, 
/usr/local/include contains (amongst other things):

FLAC, FLAC++ and OggFLAC

and /usr/local/lib includes

/usr/local/lib/libFLAC.a           /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.a
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.a         /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.a
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC.la          /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.la
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.la        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.la
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so          /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so.4      /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so.0
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so.4.0.1  /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so.0.1.1
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so.6        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so.1
/usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so.6.0.1    /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so.1.1.1

---

All help appreciated

- d



From brendan at xiph.org  Sun Jan 16 18:53:57 2005
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:57 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] two problems with flac and ices  0.4 build
In-Reply-To: <41EA3F86.4070801@ku24.com>
References: <41EA3F86.4070801@ku24.com>
Message-ID: <20050116185356.GB22329@watanabe.local>

On Sunday, 16 January 2005 at 10:18, Darrell Berry wrote:
> i'm trying to build ices0.4 and vorbis-tools 1.0.1 with flac 1.1.1. 
> Neither seems happy, hence the crossposting (sorry).
> 
> ICES0.4
> 
> ices refuses to see the libFLAC library, even if i specify
> --with-flac=/usr/local/lib (or even just --with-flac=/usr/local/, as
> the configure script seems to look in the lib and include
> subdirectories of the specified path?). i get a configure error:

The correct form is --with-flac=/usr/local
although linux systems often check /usr/local by default, so this is
typically unnecessary.

> configure: error: Could not find libFLAC
> 
> (can provide trace of ./configure if that would help anyone). FWIW, 
> /usr/local/include contains (amongst other things):
> 
> FLAC, FLAC++ and OggFLAC

whoops, it looks like there's a typo in the header check. It's
looking for the faad (mp4) header instead. You can try the following patch,
which I'm about to commit.

Index: configure.ac
===================================================================
--- configure.ac        (revision 8703)
+++ configure.ac        (working copy)
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@
     LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -L$with_flac/lib"
   fi
 
-  AC_CHECK_HEADER(faad.h, have_flac="maybe")
+  AC_CHECK_HEADER([FLAC/stream_decoder.h], have_flac="maybe")
   if test "$have_flac" != "no"
   then
     AC_CHECK_LIB(FLAC, FLAC__stream_decoder_new, [


From f.letteboer at xs4all.nl  Fri Jan 14 12:04:05 2005
From: f.letteboer at xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:04:05 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] <intro> stream stopt after intro
In-Reply-To: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
References: <41E7AF99.7070200@exonet.nl>
Message-ID: <41E7B535.9030606@xs4all.nl>

Jesper Weiland wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I'm using the icecast-2.1-kh5 for the intro feature. The intro works, 
> but after the intro it stops. It does not go on
> with the stream. When I comment the intro part, the stream works perfectly.
> 
> Does anybody know what I can do to solve this problem?
> 

Do you happen to use Foobar? Same happens with Foobar and the introfile
on Shoutcast.



From junkmail at puskarich.net  Mon Jan 17 01:35:43 2005
From: junkmail at puskarich.net (Rich Puskarich)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:35:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Icecast] Error running configure when installing icecast
Message-ID: <20050117013543.59467.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello.  I saw this e-mail address in the configure
script when installing icecast.  I'm having issues
running configure.  It exits with an error message. 
Here are the details.

- I'm running Fedora Core 2
- I have libxml v1.8.17 installed
- I have libxslt v1.1.51 installed
- I have libshout 2.0 installed
- I'm trying to install icecast 2.2

I untar the downloaded file from icecast.org.  When I
run configure, I get the following error:

configure: error: XSLT configuration could not be
found

Any ideas of what the problem could be?

Thanks in advance for any help.

--Rich


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Mon Jan 17 03:35:22 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:35:22 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Error running configure when installing icecast
In-Reply-To: <20050117013543.59467.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050117013543.59467.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501171332200.8521@data.home>

Rich Puskarich wrote:

> - I'm running Fedora Core 2
> - I have libxml v1.8.17 installed
> - I have libxslt v1.1.51 installed
> - I have libshout 2.0 installed

If you're using RPMs for these libraries, do you have the devel packages 
installed also?  These are required for compiling against them.

Geoff.



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From jaegermeist0r at burgerping.de  Tue Jan 18 11:48:38 2005
From: jaegermeist0r at burgerping.de (Meister Jaeg0r)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:38 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Several Questions about Ices2 & icecast2
Message-ID: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>

Hi,

 

i have got a linux debian woody box with icecast2 and ices2 on it. I'm
running a 24/7 stream with a huge playlist on my server, but I've got some
questions about it:

 

1.	Is it possible, that ices updates Metadata (Artist - Track) to the
icecast Server in playlist mode?
2.	Is there any possibility of controlling ices2 by a webinterface with
functions like nextrack, stop and play, switching live stream and playlist?
3.	Does anybody know a tcl script for eggdrops that can read and put
out icecast2 Stream informations?
4.	Are there any other player which are better for a mixed
Playlist/Live Stream Server ?

 

Ok, that's all. Thx for your attention! ;)

 

olli2k

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From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de  Tue Jan 18 12:20:50 2005
From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Thomas_B=2E_R=FCcker=22?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:20:50 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Several Questions about Ices2 & icecast2
In-Reply-To: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
References: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
Message-ID: <41ECFF22.6030308@afthd.tu-darmstadt.de>

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Moin,
|    1. Is it possible, that ices updates Metadata (Artist ? Track) to the
|       icecast Server in playlist mode?

I run ices2 and it updates metadata flawlessly.

|    2. Is there any possibility of controlling ices2 by a webinterface
|       with functions like nextrack, stop and play, switching live stream
|       and playlist?

Write a cgi script that sends Signals to ices2 (SIGUSR1 etc.)
more or less a "one liner" bash script would do.

|    3. Does anybody know a tcl script for eggdrops that can read and put
|       out icecast2 Stream informations?
nope, but you could check if there are RDF/RSS scripts for it. I have a
xslt that outputs a valid RSS. Or write your own output type xslt and
use some other eggdrop script.

|    4. Are there any other player which are better for a mixed
|       Playlist/Live Stream Server ?
you could use xmms with some plugins. YMMV. I prefer ices.

regards

Thomas
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From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan 18 13:59:06 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 18 Jan 2005 13:59:06 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Several Questions about Ices2 & icecast2
In-Reply-To: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
References: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
Message-ID: <1106056746.10202.8.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 11:48, Meister Jaeg0r wrote:

> 
>      1. Is it possible, that ices updates Metadata (Artist ? Track) to
>         the icecast Server in playlist mode?

If your metadata is in your ogg files then yes.

>      1. Is there any possibility of controlling ices2 by a
>         webinterface with functions like nextrack, stop and play,
>         switching live stream and playlist?

only my branch allows to switch input midstream, but causing something
like next track is just a matter of generating a signal.

>      1. Does anybody know a tcl script for eggdrops that can read and
>         put out icecast2 Stream informations?

no, but I don't think it's that difficult to do.

>      1. Are there any other player which are better for a mixed
>         Playlist/Live Stream Server ?

To mix the 2 streams, one way is to use something like xmms to play
files and then use ices to capture from DSP both the PCM/Wave/Mix and
Mic/Line-in.

karl.




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 19 00:14:46 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:14:46 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Several Questions about Ices2 & icecast2
In-Reply-To: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
References: <20050118114830.9D4391A67C3@ipx21167.ipxserver.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191011341.6027@data.home>

Meister Jaeg0r wrote:

> 2.	Is there any possibility of controlling ices2 by a webinterface with
> functions like nextrack, stop and play, switching live stream and playlist?


In addition to what others have written, Ices doesn't really have a 
stop/play function - it's either streaming to the server or it's not.  As 
someone else suggested, you may well do better with XMMS and Oddcast (or 
something similar), as there are plugins to remotely control XMMS and it is 
designed as a player so should allow you to stop/start, etc.

Geoff.


From gypsy at freeq.com  Wed Jan 19 07:05:29 2005
From: gypsy at freeq.com (Gypsy Rogers)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:05:29 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] libshout error with pthread_mutex_init using Shout.pm
Message-ID: <web-22638751@g2host.com>

 Any idea what might cause this error to happen on a
FreeBSD 4.9 machine trying to use Shout.pm with perl 5.8.5
?

 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libshout.so.3:
Undefined symbol "pthread_mutex_init"


From dan at gds.ro  Wed Jan 19 08:25:10 2005
From: dan at gds.ro (Dan V)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:25:10 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
Message-ID: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>

Hello,
I can't seem to understand - how am I supposed to make ezstreams conf file
to get ezstream to reencode the stream it gets in stdin, and send it to port
streamreencoded.mp3 and also send it as not encoded to stream.mp3 ?
The input is MP3, out should be MP3 - one notice - I do not have a sound
card on the server - is it still possible ?

>From what I read, it is supposed to be something like this:

<ezstream>
    <url>http://localhost:8000/stream.mp3</url>
    <sourcepassword>*</sourcepassword>
    <format>MP3</format>
    <filename>stdin</filename>
    <svrinfoname>INFONAME</svrinfoname>
    <svrinfourl>INFO</svrinfourl>
    <svrinfogenre>RockNRoll</svrinfogenre>
    <svrinfodescription>INFODESC</svrinfodescription>
    <svrinfobitrate>64</svrinfobitrate>
    <svrinfochannels>2</svrinfochannels>
    <svrinfosamplerate>44100</svrinfosamplerate>
    <svrinfopublic>1</svrinfopublic>
    <reencode>
        <enable>1</enable>
        <encdec>
                <format>MP3</format>
                <match>.mp3</match>
                <decode>madplay -o raw:- "@T@"</decode>
                <encode>lame -r -x -b 64 -s 44.1 --resample 22.05 -a -
-</encode>
        </encdec>
    </reencode>
</ezstream>


Thanks,
Dan V


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 19 08:52:17 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:52:17 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>

Hi:

I don't think you'll be able to do this with EZStream, I don't think it has 
the capability to send more than one stream instance, but I could be 
wrong.

Also, the reencode isn't going to match your standard input, as it's 
looking for files ending in .mp3 which of course standard input won't do.

Geoff.


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From dan at gds.ro  Wed Jan 19 09:34:39 2005
From: dan at gds.ro (Dan V)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:34:39 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>
Message-ID: <4517.193.230.152.4.1106127279.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>

Geoff Shang said:
> Hi:
>
> I don't think you'll be able to do this with EZStream, I don't think it has
> the capability to send more than one stream instance, but I could be
> wrong.
>
> Also, the reencode isn't going to match your standard input, as it's
> looking for files ending in .mp3 which of course standard input won't do.
>
> Geoff.

Thanks, I will keep that in mind.
The worst-case scenario is 3 instances of ezstream, right ?

Any suggestions for with what I could do this properly?
I need to get an 128kb stream from a server, reendcode and rebroadcast it
from a second one, at 3 different versions - 32/64/128.
And I have a problem - no audio card on the second server - and I doubt I
can get one added. :(

Thank you,
Dan


From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 19 14:05:59 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 19 Jan 2005 14:05:59 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] libshout error with pthread_mutex_init using Shout.pm
In-Reply-To: <web-22638751@g2host.com>
References: <web-22638751@g2host.com>
Message-ID: <1106143558.14362.2.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 07:05, Gypsy Rogers wrote:
>  Any idea what might cause this error to happen on a
> FreeBSD 4.9 machine trying to use Shout.pm with perl 5.8.5
> ?
> 
>  /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libshout.so.3:
> Undefined symbol "pthread_mutex_init"

missing pthread lib, check the perl -V output, see if your perl is
thread aware

karl.




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 19 14:22:49 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:22:49 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <4517.193.230.152.4.1106127279.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>
	<4517.193.230.152.4.1106127279.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501200019050.6027@data.home>

Dan V wrote:

> I need to get an 128kb stream from a server, reendcode and rebroadcast it
> from a second one, at 3 different versions - 32/64/128.

Ok, well I'd set up a straight relay for the 128k version, then run two 
instances of streamTranscoder (from oddsock.org).  This has the 
disadvantage of pulling the 128K stream 3 times, though if you got the 
transcoder to pull from your relay then those two would be local.

Oddsock, have you had any thoughts about having multiple outputs from a 
single streamTranscoder instance?  I'm currently runing two instances, both 
transcoding the same stream, and it occured to me that it should be at 
least theoretically possible to have one decode stage rather than having to 
have two.

Geoff.



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Wed Jan 19 14:45:18 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:45:18 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501200019050.6027@data.home>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>
	<4517.193.230.152.4.1106127279.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501200019050.6027@data.home>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050119083256.0345bab0@www.oddsock.org>

At 08:22 AM 1/19/2005, you wrote:
>Oddsock, have you had any thoughts about having multiple outputs from a 
>single streamTranscoder instance?  I'm currently runing two instances, 
>both transcoding the same stream, and it occured to me that it should be 
>at least theoretically possible to have one decode stage rather than 
>having to have two.

it's certainly something that can be added, although right now it does not 
currently do this.  I created ezstream as a "moderately-better" version of 
the example program that came with libshout.  The intent was to make it a 
very simple and straightforward application as possible, not as 
feature-rich as other source clients...although you could argue that I 
violated that intent by adding the reencoding feature...either way, I'll 
look into it, but can't promise anything in the near term...

oddsock 




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 19 14:50:26 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:50:26 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050119083256.0345bab0@www.oddsock.org>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501191850380.6027@data.home>
	<4517.193.230.152.4.1106127279.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501200019050.6027@data.home>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050119083256.0345bab0@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501200047190.6027@data.home>

oddsock wrote:

> it's certainly something that can be added, although right now it does not 
> currently do this.  I created ezstream as a "moderately-better" version of 
> the example program that came with libshout.  The intent was to make it a 
> very simple and straightforward application as possible, not as feature-rich 
> as other source clients...although you could argue that I violated that 
> intent by adding the reencoding feature...either way, I'll look into it, but 
> can't promise anything in the near term...

I was actually talking about streamTranscoder, though you might have been 
addressing the original poster's question (I don't know).  Certainly, I 
kinda viewed EZStream as being similar to the original Shout program, with 
anything much more complicated than simple file streaming to be done by 
something else.

Geoff.


From brendan at xiph.org  Wed Jan 19 15:21:51 2005
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:21:51 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] ezstream question
In-Reply-To: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
References: <3974.193.230.152.4.1106123110.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
Message-ID: <20050119152148.GA1198@watanabe.local>

On Wednesday, 19 January 2005 at 10:25, Dan V wrote:
> Hello,
> I can't seem to understand - how am I supposed to make ezstreams conf file
> to get ezstream to reencode the stream it gets in stdin, and send it to port
> streamreencoded.mp3 and also send it as not encoded to stream.mp3 ?
> The input is MP3, out should be MP3 - one notice - I do not have a sound
> card on the server - is it still possible ?

I believe ices 0.4 should handle this just fine.


From Dennis at Heerema.net  Wed Jan 19 16:29:14 2005
From: Dennis at Heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:29:14 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast branches
Message-ID: <41EE8ADA.1010006@Heerema.net>

Hi all,

I know that there are several branches of icecast.
Is there a list of them and what are the real differences?

regards,

Dennis Heerema



From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 19 16:43:26 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 19 Jan 2005 16:43:26 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast branches
In-Reply-To: <41EE8ADA.1010006@Heerema.net>
References: <41EE8ADA.1010006@Heerema.net>
Message-ID: <1106153006.14362.20.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:29, Dennis Heerema wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I know that there are several branches of icecast.
> Is there a list of them and what are the real differences?

Any icecast related branches are shown under svn under
http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches

I usually list the main differences in the NEWS file, eg
http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches/kh/icecast/NEWS

karl.




From mp at xmission.com  Wed Jan 19 18:04:33 2005
From: mp at xmission.com (Myke Place)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:04:33 -0700
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and logrotate
Message-ID: <20050119180433.GA19250@xmission.com>

Icecast 2.1.0
Debian 3.0

I'm trying to use logrotate to rotate my Icecast logs and I'm running
into some problems because it seems that Icecast won't write to the new
log after rotation takes place. I'd really rather not do a full restart
of Icecast everytime I rotate the log, since I don't want to disconnect
a large number of listeners. Is there a signal that can be sent to
Icecast to restart logging without disconnecting listeners and sources? 
Or, is there a method for rotating Icecast logs that is > logrotate?

-mp


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Wed Jan 19 18:59:25 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast and logrotate
In-Reply-To: <20050119180433.GA19250@xmission.com>
References: <20050119180433.GA19250@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <41EEAE0D.8090608@ncsu.edu>

You need to send a HUP to icecast.  Here's my logrotate entry.  Note 
that the 3 logs are supposed to be on the same line, but my mail client 
will wrap them.

/usr/local/var/log/icecast/access.log 
/usr/local/var/log/icecast/error.log 
/usr/local/var/log/icecast/playlist.log {
     sharedscripts
     postrotate
         kill -HUP `cat /usr/local/share/icecast/icecast.pid`
     endscript
}

In order to use the icecast.pid file, you need to enable that in your 
icecast configuration.

Joel

Myke Place wrote:
> Icecast 2.1.0
> Debian 3.0
> 
> I'm trying to use logrotate to rotate my Icecast logs and I'm running
> into some problems because it seems that Icecast won't write to the new
> log after rotation takes place. I'd really rather not do a full restart
> of Icecast everytime I rotate the log, since I don't want to disconnect
> a large number of listeners. Is there a signal that can be sent to
> Icecast to restart logging without disconnecting listeners and sources? 
> Or, is there a method for rotating Icecast logs that is > logrotate?
> 
> -mp
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Wed Jan 19 22:52:55 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:52:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Ices Crashing (BUS error)
In-Reply-To: <3c173721050113150027911a47@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41E166AE.6080000@graver.xs4all.nl>	
	<3c17372105010914512c6eb7f7@mail.gmail.com>	
	<41E67AE5.3040102@graver.xs4all.nl>
	<3c173721050113150027911a47@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41EEE4C7.7070505@graver.xs4all.nl>

Michael Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Frits Letteboer
> <graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
>>Michael Smith wrote:
>> > On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:15:26 +0100, Frits Letteboer
>> > <graver at graver.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hi,
>> >>
>> >>I'm currently migrating from Shoutcast/MP3 to Icecast/OGG/Vorbis
>>using ices.
>> >>
>> >>Unfortunately, when initialising the encoder, ices crashes with a bus
>>error.
>> >
>> >
>> > It looks from the gdb output that it's crashing in libvorbis. Can you
>> > compile libvorbis AND ices with debugging symbols, and try again?
>>
>>Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error.
>>[Switching to Thread 1 (LWP 100163)]
>>0x2819e486 in _vp_couple (blobno=7, g=0x80adb34, p=0x80c8334, vi=0x80b0000,
>>     res=0x805c960, mag_memo=0x8105930, mag_sort=0x8105960,
>>ifloor=0x8105870,
>>     nonzero=0xbfaedc70, sliding_lowpass=574) at psy.c:1167
>>1167            for(k=0;k<partition;k++){
> 
> 
> 
> That's very, very strange. I'd be very tempted to say that that line
> couldn't possibly cause a bus fault (at least on x86)... but you seem
> to have evidence to the contrary.
> 
> Can you reproduce this with any other vorbis encoders, using the same
> version of libvorbis?
> 
> Can you try rebuilding libvorbis and ices with the optimisation level
> reduced (or even turned off entirely)? I'd expect that to "fix" the
> problem, but it might just be hiding something seriously wrong.
> 
> Sorry I can't give any more helpful advice - this is something I've
> never seen before, and I really don't have much idea what could have
> gone wrong.
> 
> Mike

After discussing things off-list with Karl, things seems to be caused by 
  libvorbis combined with -march=pentium4 and -O and gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 
[FreeBSD] 20040728


From morpheus at o2.pl  Wed Jan 19 16:13:19 2005
From: morpheus at o2.pl (morpheus)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:13:19 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] file only storing with ices 2 ?
Message-ID: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>

Hi !

my question is how to totally switch off the Ices2
logging into the Icecast server ?

I wan't to use ices only to save archives (24h/d),
without any streaming, but when I try start Ices, see:

[2005-01-19  17:27:05] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream
Failed initial connect to localhost:8000 (Couldn't
connect: Connection refused)

and Ices clears buffers etc. and shuts itself down :-(

I don't installed Icecast server and don't want to
do it...

Thank You for answers !
Rob.




From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Wed Jan 19 23:45:23 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:45:23 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] file only storing with ices 2 ?
In-Reply-To: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>
References: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <3c173721050119154529ec02a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:13:19 +0000, morpheus <morpheus at o2.pl> wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> my question is how to totally switch off the Ices2
> logging into the Icecast server ?

You can't. ices2 is only useful when it logs into an icecast server. 

If you don't want to stream, why do you want to use ices2?

Mike


From karl at xiph.org  Thu Jan 20 00:38:44 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 20 Jan 2005 00:38:44 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] file only storing with ices 2 ?
In-Reply-To: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>
References: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <1106181523.16140.18.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:13, morpheus wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> my question is how to totally switch off the Ices2
> logging into the Icecast server ?
> 
> I wan't to use ices only to save archives (24h/d),
> without any streaming, but when I try start Ices, see:
> 
> [2005-01-19  17:27:05] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream
> Failed initial connect to localhost:8000 (Couldn't
> connect: Connection refused)
> 
> and Ices clears buffers etc. and shuts itself down :-(
> 
> I don't installed Icecast server and don't want to
> do it...

slightly unusual request, ices2 without icecast. It sounds like you want
to just do archiving with file splitting.

The only way AFAIK is using my ices 2 branch, don't state the <shout>
tags as shown in the examples, just state the savefile tags with the
duration

karl.




From laszlo.bona at minimax.hu  Thu Jan 20 13:42:54 2005
From: laszlo.bona at minimax.hu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?B=F3na_L=E1szl=F3?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:42:54 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] ices2
Message-ID: <41EFB55E.7030509@minimax.hu>

Hi everybody,
If there any possibility the ices2 remote controlling(via the web)? 
Let's say the machine reboot and after i would like to position in the 
playlist. Or where can i know what is playing the ices2.
Thanks
Laci


From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 18:06:52 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:06:52 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] file only storing with ices 2 ?
In-Reply-To: <1106181523.16140.18.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <1548574761.20050119161319@o2.pl>
	<1106181523.16140.18.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <1403218a05012010064db66a3c@mail.gmail.com>

And why can't you install the icecast server, and just don't let
anyone connect to it !!
It has little overheard !


On 20 Jan 2005 00:38:44 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:13, morpheus wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > my question is how to totally switch off the Ices2
> > logging into the Icecast server ?
> >
> > I wan't to use ices only to save archives (24h/d),
> > without any streaming, but when I try start Ices, see:
> >
> > [2005-01-19  17:27:05] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream
> > Failed initial connect to localhost:8000 (Couldn't
> > connect: Connection refused)
> >
> > and Ices clears buffers etc. and shuts itself down :-(
> >
> > I don't installed Icecast server and don't want to
> > do it...
> 
> slightly unusual request, ices2 without icecast. It sounds like you want
> to just do archiving with file splitting.
> 
> The only way AFAIK is using my ices 2 branch, don't state the <shout>
> tags as shown in the examples, just state the savefile tags with the
> duration
> 
> karl.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 


-- 
Mohamed Eldesoky
www.eldesoky.net
RHCE


From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 18:08:35 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:08:35 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] ices2
In-Reply-To: <41EFB55E.7030509@minimax.hu>
References: <41EFB55E.7030509@minimax.hu>
Message-ID: <1403218a0501201008f3dbcb5@mail.gmail.com>

Perl/Python modules ??


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:42:54 +0100, B?na L?szl? <laszlo.bona at minimax.hu> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> If there any possibility the ices2 remote controlling(via the web)?
> Let's say the machine reboot and after i would like to position in the
> playlist. Or where can i know what is playing the ices2.
> Thanks
> Laci
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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 21 00:04:25 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:04:25 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] ices2
In-Reply-To: <41EFB55E.7030509@minimax.hu>
References: <41EFB55E.7030509@minimax.hu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501211000490.6027@data.home>

Hi:

Ices2 doesn't have a state file like ices0 does.  But it does have playlist 
scripting.  So if you handle your playlist via a script which keeps its own 
state information, then you can do what you want with it.  As long as Ices 
gets the next song to play when it asks for it, it'll be happy.

Kirk Reiser implemented such a system called Egosched.  I think the CVS 
server is currently down, but I do have a snapshot of it (not sure how out 
of date it is), which could serve as an implementation.  It's written in C. 
I can tar it up for anyone who's interested.

Geoff.


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From riddler at wireless-nation.com  Thu Jan 20 12:12:00 2005
From: riddler at wireless-nation.com (Riddler Lee)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:12:00 +0800
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast compatable mode
Message-ID: <02ca01c4fee9$3f3a58c0$c801a8c0@riddler>

Hi,

    Regarding to the shoutcast client compatible setting, I tried a few
times but not successful still, may I ask if there is any successful example
i can follow?

Regards,
Riddler



From xflac at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 20 18:15:52 2005
From: xflac at yahoo.com (Josh Coalson)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:15:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Icecast] Re: [Flac] two problems with flac and ices  0.4 build
In-Reply-To: <41EA3F86.4070801@ku24.com>
Message-ID: <20050120181553.68044.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com>

not sure what the --with-flac flag is, maybe that's part
of the ices config.  the lib*FLAC m4 files add the following
flags to configure:

--with-libFLAC
--with-libFLACPP      (for libFLAC++)
--with-libOggFLAC
--with-libOggFLACPP   (for libOggFLAC++)

Josh

--- Darrell Berry <darrell at ku24.com> wrote:
> i'm trying to build ices0.4 and vorbis-tools 1.0.1 with flac 1.1.1. 
> Neither seems happy, hence the crossposting (sorry).
> 
> ICES0.4
> ---
> 
> ices refuses to see the libFLAC library, even if i specify 
> --with-flac=/usr/local/lib (or even just --with-flac=/usr/local/, as
> the 
> configure script seems to look in the lib and include subdirectories
> of 
> the specified path?). i get a configure error:
> 
> configure: error: Could not find libFLAC
> 
> (can provide trace of ./configure if that would help anyone). FWIW, 
> /usr/local/include contains (amongst other things):
> 
> FLAC, FLAC++ and OggFLAC
> 
> and /usr/local/lib includes
> 
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.a           /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.a
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.a         /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.a
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.la          /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.la
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.la        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.la
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so          /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so.4      /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so.0
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC++.so.4.0.1 
> /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC++.so.0.1.1
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so.6        /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so.1
> /usr/local/lib/libFLAC.so.6.0.1    /usr/local/lib/libOggFLAC.so.1.1.1
> 
> ---
> 
> All help appreciated
> 
> - d



		
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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Fri Jan 21 00:39:42 2005
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:39:42 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] http/cgi metadata updating
Message-ID: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>

I heard that Icecast 2.2 now supports metadata updating via http for vorbis 
streams.  We are adding http metadata support into our broadcasting software 
for the next release.  Can someone point me to a link for the syntax, or is 
it identical to the Shoutcast syntax?
http://www.host.com:port/admin.cgi?pass=Password&mode=updinfo&song=Artist_Title&url=http://someurl.com

Has there been any thought on extending the syntax to send additonal 
information to the server, such as separate artist and title, album, and 
song duration parameters?  This could be very useful for a stream hosting 
company.  The Artist & Album data could be used to provide links to purchase 
the CD, and the duration would be useful for refreshing the title 
information window for in-line website based players.  Live365 supports 
these parameters for their cgi interface.  It may be worth considering.

Best regards,

Ross Levis
===============================================
StationPlaylist.com
http://www.stationplaylist.com
Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for
radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems.
=============================================== 



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 21 00:43:08 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:43:08 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Shoutcast compatable mode
In-Reply-To: <02ca01c4fee9$3f3a58c0$c801a8c0@riddler>
References: <02ca01c4fee9$3f3a58c0$c801a8c0@riddler>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050120184206.0346b6c8@www.oddsock.org>

At 06:12 AM 1/20/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>     Regarding to the shoutcast client compatible setting, I tried a few
>times but not successful still, may I ask if there is any successful example
>i can follow?

are you using the example shoutcast-compat config provided with icecast ? 
You also might want to consider posting the relevant portions of your config..

oddsock




From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 21 00:48:31 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:48:31 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] http/cgi metadata updating
In-Reply-To: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>
References: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050120184443.03459930@www.oddsock.org>

At 06:39 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote:
>I heard that Icecast 2.2 now supports metadata updating via http for 
>vorbis streams.  We are adding http metadata support into our broadcasting 
>software for the next release.  Can someone point me to a link for the 
>syntax, or is it identical to the Shoutcast syntax?
>http://www.host.com:port/admin.cgi?pass=Password&mode=updinfo&song=Artist_Title&url=http://someurl.com

the docs have it all... 
http://www.icecast.org/docs/icecast-trunk/icecast2_admin.html under the 
section "Metadata Update"...

>Has there been any thought on extending the syntax to send additonal 
>information to the server, such as separate artist and title, album, and 
>song duration parameters?  This could be very useful for a stream hosting 
>company.  The Artist & Album data could be used to provide links to 
>purchase the CD, and the duration would be useful for refreshing the title 
>information window for in-line website based players.  Live365 supports 
>these parameters for their cgi interface.  It may be worth considering.

you can already do all this outside of icecast (my DoSomething winamp 
plugin was specifically written for things like that), so I'm not entirely 
sure I see the benefit in sending the data to icecast.  If you want this 
data to then be sent to listening clients, you have to deal with the fact 
that there is no standard for sending metadata to them... There is the 
shoutcast-metadata protocol, but that is extremely limited in it's 
abilities (just Song title and Stream URL)...Of course, you can do a lot 
with vorbis tags (icecast will pass those along nicely to clients), but 
then you have a vorbis only solution, plus you still have the "client 
support" issue....

oddsock




From ross at stationplaylist.com  Fri Jan 21 01:19:40 2005
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:19:40 +1300
Subject: [Icecast] http/cgi metadata updating
References: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050120184443.03459930@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <001c01c4ff57$480e9790$8000a8c0@levis3>

> you can already do all this outside of icecast (my DoSomething winamp 
> plugin was specifically written for things like that), so I'm not entirely 
> sure I see the benefit in sending the data to icecast.

Well, it could be used to provide cheaper hosting by subsidizing the 
bandwidth costs with CD sales, all controlled by the host and not the 
broadcaster.  This would require an in-line browser player, and not an 
external player.

It was just a thought.  Live365 does all this.  These changes would allow a 
Live365 competitor to use vorbis, without modifying the server code 
themselves.

> If you want this data to then be sent to listening clients, you have to 
> deal
> with the fact that there is no standard for sending metadata to them

It's a shame that Icecast could not put vorbis compatible tags into the 
stream, for external players.  The reason being that not all users want the 
metadata of every track to appear at the listeners end.  Commercials and 
jingles, for example.  Switching off metadata within the stream and using 
the http interface would allow us to do that.

While I'm rambling, is there any facility to display a history of tracks 
played in a browser via Icecast?  I believe Shoutcast supports this.

Certainly no major issues but just some thoughts I had.

Regards,

Ross Levis
===============================================
StationPlaylist.com
http://www.stationplaylist.com
Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for
radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems.
=============================================== 



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Fri Jan 21 04:15:11 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:15:11 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] http/cgi metadata updating
In-Reply-To: <001c01c4ff57$480e9790$8000a8c0@levis3>
References: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050120184443.03459930@www.oddsock.org>
	<001c01c4ff57$480e9790$8000a8c0@levis3>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501211414060.6027@data.home>

Ross Levis wrote:

> While I'm rambling, is there any facility to display a history of tracks 
> played in a browser via Icecast?  I believe Shoutcast supports this.

I understand that Icecast can now log track info, but I've not tried this 
feature.

Geoff.



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 21 04:27:47 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:27:47 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] http/cgi metadata updating
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501211414060.6027@data.home>
References: <019001c4ff51$b2a9c1c0$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050120184443.03459930@www.oddsock.org>
	<001c01c4ff57$480e9790$8000a8c0@levis3>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501211414060.6027@data.home>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050120222334.03470368@www.oddsock.org>

At 10:15 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote:
>Ross Levis wrote:
>
>>While I'm rambling, is there any facility to display a history of tracks 
>>played in a browser via Icecast?  I believe Shoutcast supports this.
>
>I understand that Icecast can now log track info, but I've not tried this 
>feature.

yep, the config option is <playlistlog> and it goes in the <logging> 
section of the config. Here is the description from the docs :
"Into this file, a log of all metadata for each mountpoint will be written. 
The format of the logfile will most likely change over time as we narrow in 
on a standard format for this. Currently, the file is pipe delimited. This 
option is optional and can be removed entirely from the config file. "

I'd rather see people use this logfile rather than making icecast cache the 
last X metadata updates for each source connection so that it could display 
it on the status screen.

oddsock

>Geoff.
>
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>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From mays at win.net  Fri Jan 21 15:39:06 2005
From: mays at win.net (Joe Mays)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:39:06 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Looking for a better way
Message-ID: <007d01c4ffcf$5753a830$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>

Okay, so here is what I have now. I am setting up an icecast server for our customers
to use for streaming audio -- in particular there will be a couple of radio stations
in town using it. I want it to run on a cluster of systems for redundancy. So I have
the server running on two identical machines on one ip that is dedicated to streaming
services, behind a foundry switch. The foundry switch directs connections to the
standard ports according to which has the least connections.

Each machine also has another port that is bound to the ip of the machine itself and
is just for me to specifically connect to each machine, and also for them to talk to
each other. Each machine is set to use the other as a master. So when someone
connects to send a stream, whichever machine they connect to, the other machine picks
up the mountpoint when it scans the master.

This works, except for one thing. I have to test with it some more, but it seems like
if something causes the sending client to disconnect, so that the initial machine
loses the mountpoint, it will then pick the mountpoint up from the other machine when
it scans it. Then when the sending client reconnects, it gets refused saying the
mountpoint is already in use. The two cluster machines then hand the mountpoint back
and forth to each other.

I need to test with it some more, there may be something I can do with update times
to do something about this.

But is there a better way to accomplish the same goal? I am trying to create a
redundant streaming server, basically.

Joe



From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan 21 16:30:08 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 21 Jan 2005 16:30:08 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Looking for a better way
In-Reply-To: <007d01c4ffcf$5753a830$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
References: <007d01c4ffcf$5753a830$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
Message-ID: <1106325007.23575.36.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 15:39, Joe Mays wrote:

> This works, except for one thing. I have to test with it some more, but it seems like
> if something causes the sending client to disconnect, so that the initial machine
> loses the mountpoint, it will then pick the mountpoint up from the other machine when
> it scans it. Then when the sending client reconnects, it gets refused saying the
> mountpoint is already in use. The two cluster machines then hand the mountpoint back
> and forth to each other.

hmm, this is because the slave is reserving the mountpoint expecting it
to come back up, then the master sees the .  I think it would be
reasonable to not list inactive relays during master-slave updates

try this diff against 2.2, and let me know if that works better

karl.

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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Fri Jan 21 17:34:16 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:34:16 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
Message-ID: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>

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From oracle at provocation.net  Sat Jan 22 23:53:32 2005
From: oracle at provocation.net (Zenon Panoussis)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:53:32 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
Message-ID: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>


[2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'dir.xiph.org'"
[2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'www.oddsock.org'"

This happens in chroot. Out of chroot, no problems. So I did the obvious
and put a copy of etc/resolv.conf in the chroot. No avail. It clearly needs
a lot more than just resolv.conf. Probably a pile of libraries and god knows
what.

Has anybody solved this already and can give me a hint? Google returns one (1)
link for the error message
(http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.icecast.general/4556 ) and the link
is a question, not an answer. I can't imagine myself being the second person
around to use chroot...

It's icecast-2.2.0-1 built and running on RHEL3 out of the standard issue
source rpm.

Z


-- 
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From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 00:41:54 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:41:54 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:53:32 +0100, Zenon Panoussis
<oracle at provocation.net> wrote:
> 
> [2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'dir.xiph.org'"
> [2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'www.oddsock.org'"
> 
> This happens in chroot. Out of chroot, no problems. So I did the obvious
> and put a copy of etc/resolv.conf in the chroot. No avail. It clearly needs
> a lot more than just resolv.conf. Probably a pile of libraries and god knows
> what.

As you've found out, you do need a lot of stuff on modern systems (you
didn't say what OS you were using, though) to get a working resolver.

Personally, though I've used chroot, I haven't used it with anything
that requires a resolver (e.g. relays, yp), so I'm not certain exactly
what you need.

You should be able to find some info with a web search - just don't
make it icecast-specific, since there's nothing icecast-specific about
getting your name resolver working inside chroot..

Mike


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan 23 02:47:06 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 23 Jan 2005 02:47:06 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <1106448426.3858.670.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:53, Zenon Panoussis wrote:
> [2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'dir.xiph.org'"
> [2005-01-22  23:31:17] EROR yp/send_to_yp connection to http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi failed with "Couldn't resolve host 'www.oddsock.org'"
> 
> This happens in chroot. Out of chroot, no problems. So I did the obvious
> and put a copy of etc/resolv.conf in the chroot. No avail. It clearly needs
> a lot more than just resolv.conf. Probably a pile of libraries and god knows
> what.

The /etc/resolv.conf file is only for DNS lookup, general hostname
lookups use the Name Service Switch (/etc/nsswitch.conf) to decide the
order of lookups. Each of those services (including DNS) may dynamically
load modules (/lib/libnss*) to perform the actual service specific
hostname lookup.

If these modules are loaded after the start of icecast (the default case
on linux) and more specifically after the chroot then these also have to
be in the chroot jail as well

karl.




From jsimmons at goblin.punk.net  Sun Jan 23 03:20:46 2005
From: jsimmons at goblin.punk.net (Jeff Simmons)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:20:46 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Persistent audio streams?
Message-ID: <200501221920.46756.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>

My apologies if this is a stupid question, or has been covered in detail 
somewhere that I haven't found yet. I have spent a while looking around. I'm 
new to streaming audio, but I do know a thing or two about TCP/IP networking.

I'm working with a local public radio station. They have a remote transmitter 
located about a hundred miles away, to serve another community. Right now 
they're using a radio broadcast to get feed to that transmitter, but, well, 
basically, the quality and reliability suck.

I've been experimenting with running an internet audio stream to the remote 
site. Our ISP has a direct route from the local studio to the remote 
transmitter (over their backbone and then to the remote via high speed 
wireless, about 5 hops). I've set up ice2 and icecast, and I'm getting a very 
nice Ogg Vorbis stream off their line output before it goes to the local 
transmitter.

I've been monitoring the stream from my place (via 3m/384k ASDL, about 16 
hops). My problem is that the various clients I've tried (WinAmp, XMMS, 
Foobar) all ending up dropping the stream eventually. I have yet to get a 
stream that was still going after 24 hours.

I know that people are running internet radio stations and streaming content 
from various places to redistributors, and they must be getting better 
persistence than I am.

So what do I need to know to ensure that a stream will be up 24/7/365?

Thanks in advance for any help or pointers you can give me.

-- 
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From oracle at provocation.net  Sun Jan 23 03:22:49 2005
From: oracle at provocation.net (Zenon Panoussis)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:22:49 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
	<3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>


Michael Smith wrote:

> As you've found out, you do need a lot of stuff on modern systems (you
> didn't say what OS you were using, though) to get a working resolver.

Grumpf. Linking is a fine thing for space economy, but for chroot
I wish everything was static and monolithic and self-contained.

> You should be able to find some info with a web search - just don't
> make it icecast-specific...

That's a very good idea indeed; I was focusing too much on icecast
itself.

There should be a chroot package, just like the one Redhat makes for
bind. If I manage to solve this, I might take a shot at packaging the
solution.

BTW, the OS is Linux, RHEL3-flavour. I'd assume every *nix has the
same problem though.


Karl Heyes wrote:

> If these modules are loaded after the start of icecast (the default case
> on linux) and more specifically after the chroot then these also have to
> be in the chroot jail as well

Indeed. I'll try the simple things to begin with. If they don't work,
strace might tell me what's missing in the chroot. It amazes me though
that nobody has run into this before.

Z


-- 
The best defence against logic is ignorance.


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan 23 03:33:37 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 23 Jan 2005 03:33:37 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
	<3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>
	<41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <1106451216.3858.721.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 03:22, Zenon Panoussis wrote:
> Michael Smith wrote:
> 
> > As you've found out, you do need a lot of stuff on modern systems (you
> > didn't say what OS you were using, though) to get a working resolver.
> 
> Grumpf. Linking is a fine thing for space economy, but for chroot
> I wish everything was static and monolithic and self-contained.

if you have the build environment and the source tree then a make static
should work

karl.




From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 03:49:56 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:49:56 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <1106451216.3858.721.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
	<3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>
	<41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>
	<1106451216.3858.721.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <3c173721050122194937785544@mail.gmail.com>

On 23 Jan 2005 03:33:37 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 03:22, Zenon Panoussis wrote:
> > Michael Smith wrote:
> >
> > > As you've found out, you do need a lot of stuff on modern systems (you
> > > didn't say what OS you were using, though) to get a working resolver.
> >
> > Grumpf. Linking is a fine thing for space economy, but for chroot
> > I wish everything was static and monolithic and self-contained.
> 
> if you have the build environment and the source tree then a make static
> should work
> 
> karl.
> 

Except "make static" will helpfully build you a statically linked
icecast which still dynamically loads modules for the name service
(via nsswitch.conf, as you noted).

Yes, that's right: on a modern linux system (as far as I know), there
is no way to build a fully statically linked application which can do
hostname lookups. This can be rather a pain...

Mike


From oracle at provocation.net  Sun Jan 23 04:26:05 2005
From: oracle at provocation.net (Zenon Panoussis)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:26:05 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <3c173721050122194937785544@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>	
	<3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>	
	<41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>	
	<1106451216.3858.721.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<3c173721050122194937785544@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41F3275D.7030905@provocation.net>


Michael Smith wrote:

> Yes, that's right: on a modern linux system (as far as I know), there
> is no way to build a fully statically linked application which can do
> hostname lookups. 

Well yes, by building the whole OS into the application, from glibc to
each and every crucial component except the kernel itself. I said "grumpf"
about dynamic linking and chroot, but I'd probaly commit suicide if my
wish of truly static applications got fulfilled.

Z


-- 
The best defence against logic is ignorance.


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 23 04:52:10 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:52:10 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
	<3c17372105012216414799c751@mail.gmail.com>
	<41F31888.8020808@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501231450190.6027@data.home>

Zenon Panoussis wrote:

> It amazes me though that nobody has run into this before.

People have.  And I vaguely recall someone doing some work indetermining 
all that was needed and wrote to the list about it.  I usually keep such 
messages, but can't find it right now.  But yes, I've seen about 3 or 4 
separate queries about this issue.

Geoff.



From rdude at fuzzelfish.com  Sun Jan 23 08:00:43 2005
From: rdude at fuzzelfish.com (rdude =))
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:00:43 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] libshout on AIX
Message-ID: <B0074251034@mail9.nshosts.com>

Hey guys,

Has anyone has been able to succesfully compile libshout on an AIX? I have
failed miserably with version 2.0 and version 1.0.7.

-rdude =)



From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan 23 14:49:12 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 23 Jan 2005 14:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] libshout on AIX
In-Reply-To: <B0074251034@mail9.nshosts.com>
References: <B0074251034@mail9.nshosts.com>
Message-ID: <1106491751.3858.1402.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 08:00, rdude =) wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> Has anyone has been able to succesfully compile libshout on an AIX? I have
> failed miserably with version 2.0 and version 1.0.7.

AIX is certainly not one I have access to anymore. IIRC there was a name
clash but without the details it's hard to say for sure.

karl.




From oracle at provocation.net  Sun Jan 23 15:14:55 2005
From: oracle at provocation.net (Zenon Panoussis)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:14:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Re: EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <41F3BF6F.9080909@provocation.net>


Solved:

/usr/share/icecast/etc/hosts
/usr/share/icecast/etc/localtime
/usr/share/icecast/etc/resolv.conf
/usr/share/icecast/etc/ld.so.cache
/usr/share/icecast/lib/libnss_dns.so.2

This worked with the 2.2.0 RPM on FC3 and icecast was able to update
dir.xiph.org from its chroot in /usr/share/icecast . etc/hosts is not
really required unless localhost needs to be looked up.

Z


-- 
The best defence against logic is ignorance.


From jlb at twu.net  Sun Jan 23 15:16:57 2005
From: jlb at twu.net (JLB)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:16:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Icecast] Re: EROR: no DNS
In-Reply-To: <41F3BF6F.9080909@provocation.net>
References: <41F2E77C.5090902@provocation.net>
	<41F3BF6F.9080909@provocation.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0501231016190.30574@twu.net>

Or unless you're behind a NAT box and want a way to quickly contact
machines on the LAN. E.g. my machines: eowyn, goldberry, thorin,
galadriel.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Zenon Panoussis wrote:

> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:14:55 +0100
> From: Zenon Panoussis <oracle at provocation.net>
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: [Icecast] Re: EROR: no DNS
>
>
> Solved:
>
> /usr/share/icecast/etc/hosts
> /usr/share/icecast/etc/localtime
> /usr/share/icecast/etc/resolv.conf
> /usr/share/icecast/etc/ld.so.cache
> /usr/share/icecast/lib/libnss_dns.so.2
>
> This worked with the 2.2.0 RPM on FC3 and icecast was able to update
> dir.xiph.org from its chroot in /usr/share/icecast . etc/hosts is not
> really required unless localhost needs to be looked up.
>
> Z
>
>
> --
> The best defence against logic is ignorance.
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>

--
J. L. Blank, Systems Administrator, twu.net


From karl at xiph.org  Sun Jan 23 18:57:39 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 23 Jan 2005 18:57:39 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] ices 2.0.1 release
Message-ID: <1106506658.3858.1652.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

This is to announce version 2.0.1 of ices.  It is a small update to
2.0.0 and is compatible to existing configurations.

The most user-visible part of this update is in the ALSA input driver,
which some people have reported as being a problem in some cases. 

You can download the tar files from

http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/ices/


Summary of changes since 2.0.0
. update ALSA input
. add optional ogg page flush trigger
. fix small memory issues on rare cases
. doc and sample updates
. small build updates

Please report any issues via trac.xiph.org


Icecast development team




From giles at xiph.org  Sun Jan 23 20:08:53 2005
From: giles at xiph.org (Ralph Giles)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:08:53 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Persistent audio streams?
In-Reply-To: <200501221920.46756.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
References: <200501221920.46756.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
Message-ID: <20050123200853.GC21684@ghostscript.com>

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 07:20:46PM -0800, Jeff Simmons wrote:

> I've been experimenting with running an internet audio stream to the remote 
> site. Our ISP has a direct route from the local studio to the remote 
> transmitter (over their backbone and then to the remote via high speed 
> wireless, about 5 hops). I've set up ice2 and icecast, and I'm getting a very 
> nice Ogg Vorbis stream off their line output before it goes to the local 
> transmitter.
> 
> I've been monitoring the stream from my place (via 3m/384k ASDL, about 16 
> hops). My problem is that the various clients I've tried (WinAmp, XMMS, 
> Foobar) all ending up dropping the stream eventually. I have yet to get a 
> stream that was still going after 24 hours.

The question is, why are the clients dropping? It could be your net 
flaking out. I've even heard of some ISPs cutting connections every
24 hours. If you have a leased line to the second transmitter, this 
shouldn't be an issue in practice.

Another issue, as I understand it, is lack of sync between the two audio 
cards. The clocks in consumer audio hardware are very precise, but not 
accurate at all. If the playback clock is faster than the recording 
clock, the network receive buffer will eventually overflow, which should 
cause the client to pause playback and continue after the buffer refills, 
producing a glitch. If, on the other hand, the playback clock is slower 
than the recording clock, the transmit queue on the icecast server will
grow until it hits a predefined limit, at which point icecast drops the
connection to bound its resource usage.

IIRC usually the clock skews result in drops after a week or two, not a 
day, but it's withing the realm of possibility. I can suggest a couple 
of things:

Adjust the playback receive buffer (easy on many clients) and the 
icecast send buffer limit (recompile, I think) and see if they 
correllate with drop frequency. This would positively identify the 
problem. So, of course, would just instrumenting the drop.

Just try different combinations of audio hardware until you find one 
that's a closer match.

Make sure the client that drives the second transmitter restarts if the 
stream ever drops. (obviously :)

Use professional quality sound cards. They would (hopefully) be more 
accurate, or you can use an external source of known accuracy with cards 
that support an external word clock.

It's in theory possible to hack the source/playback clients to compare 
the audio clock against ntp time and stretch/compress the digital audio 
stream to enforce the nominal sample rate at both ends. This might be a 
generally useful feature if you'd like to contribute something. :)

Hope that's of some help,
 -r


From xavier.pessoles at crans.ens-cachan.fr  Sun Jan 23 13:24:23 2005
From: xavier.pessoles at crans.ens-cachan.fr (Xavier PESSOLES)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:24:23 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and jack
Message-ID: <41F3A587.1060204@crans.ens-cachan.fr>

Hello !
I would like to know if I can use jack with icecast ?
If I can, how to use jack as a client and icecast as a server?

thanks

-- 
Xavier PESSOLES



From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan 24 04:38:57 2005
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:38:57 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and jack
In-Reply-To: <41F3A587.1060204@crans.ens-cachan.fr>
References: <41F3A587.1060204@crans.ens-cachan.fr>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050123223457.01d2fb68@www.oddsock.org>

At 07:24 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote:
>Hello !
>I would like to know if I can use jack with icecast ?
>If I can, how to use jack as a client and icecast as a server?

oddcastv3 now has jack support and I've heard reports from a few people who 
have used this successfully.  http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv3_jack/

I believe also that there was some support for jack in ices2, but don't 
know if it's officially in there or not.  Also, Brendan mentioned that he 
got ices 0.x working with jack using a combo of jackrec | lame | ices.

oddsock




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Mon Jan 24 05:34:55 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:34:55 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and jack
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050123223457.01d2fb68@www.oddsock.org>
References: <41F3A587.1060204@crans.ens-cachan.fr>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050123223457.01d2fb68@www.oddsock.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501241531070.6027@data.home>

oddsock wrote:

> I believe also that there was some support for jack in ices2, but don't know 
> if it's officially in there or not.

Pretty sure it's only in Karl's branch 
(http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches/kh/ices/).

Geoff.



From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan 24 12:37:42 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 24 Jan 2005 12:37:42 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] icecast and jack
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501241531070.6027@data.home>
References: <41F3A587.1060204@crans.ens-cachan.fr>
	<6.0.1.1.2.20050123223457.01d2fb68@www.oddsock.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501241531070.6027@data.home>
Message-ID: <1106570262.17308.0.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 05:34, Geoff Shang wrote:
> oddsock wrote:
> 
> > I believe also that there was some support for jack in ices2, but don't know 
> > if it's officially in there or not.
> 
> Pretty sure it's only in Karl's branch 
> (http://svn.xiph.org/icecast/branches/kh/ices/).

you are correct, it is on my list of things to merge.

karl.




From jigen at metalabs.org  Mon Jan 24 13:32:44 2005
From: jigen at metalabs.org (jigen)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:32:44 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] automake: Internal Error
Message-ID: <1106573564.1705.9.camel@utopia.metalabs.org>

Hi, 
	I'm trying to compile icecast-kh (last version) on a OpenBSD machine.
While I execute ./autogen.sh an error occurs:

  autoheader
  libtoolize --automake
  automake --add-missing
automake: ####################
automake: ## Internal Error ##
automake: ####################
automake: unrequested trace `include'
automake: Please contact <bug-automake at gnu.org>.
 at /usr/local/share/automake-1.9/Automake/Channels.pm line 562
        Automake::Channels::msg('automake','','unrequested trace
`include\'') called at
/usr/local/share/automake-1.9/Automake/ChannelDefs.pm line 191
        Automake::ChannelDefs::prog_error('unrequested trace
`include\'') called at /usr/local/bin/automake line 4675
        Automake::scan_autoconf_traces('configure.in') called at
/usr/local/bin/automake line 4874
        Automake::scan_autoconf_files() called at
/usr/local/bin/automake line 7460


I'm using automake-1.9.4, autoconf-2.59 and bsd m4.
I've found this previous post: 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-automake/2004-11/msg00103.html
but i can't find the patch.

Anyone has an idea?
I'm not subscribed so better if you can reply directly to this address.

tnx,
	jigen


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From b.was at netmaniak.net  Mon Jan 24 15:24:30 2005
From: b.was at netmaniak.net (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bart=B3omiej_W=B1s?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:24:30 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast re-ecnoding.
Message-ID: <41F5132E.2010900@netmaniak.net>

Hello,

Is it possible to make icecast act as re-encoder ?

I want to have one source (128kbps) and play it in two separate streams 
(128 and 64 kbps). It is possible to do it with icecast 2.2.0 ?

greets
Bwa


From Dennis at heerema.net  Mon Jan 24 16:00:03 2005
From: Dennis at heerema.net (Dennis Heerema)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:00:03 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast re-ecnoding.
In-Reply-To: <41F5132E.2010900@netmaniak.net>
References: <41F5132E.2010900@netmaniak.net>
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200501241700.AA00030010@heerema.net>

Use Streamtranscoder to do that.

Available at: 

http://www.oddsock.org/tools/

http://www.oddsock.org/tools/streamTranscoder


regards,

Dennis Heerema


-----Original Message-----
From: Bart?omiej W?s <b.was at netmaniak.net>
To: icecast at xiph.org
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:24:30 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast re-ecnoding.

> Hello,
> 
> Is it possible to make icecast act as re-encoder ?
> 
> I want to have one source (128kbps) and play it in two separate streams
> (128 and 64 kbps). It is possible to do it with icecast 2.2.0 ?
> 
> greets
> Bwa
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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From slc at publicus.net  Mon Jan 24 19:06:13 2005
From: slc at publicus.net (Steven Clift)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:06:13 -0600
Subject: [Icecast] Your ideas ...
Message-ID: <02a001c50247$c65d6430$6500a8c0@PUBLICUS2>


I am looking for ideas on how to best webcast public meetings.  The
general idea is to allow folks to easily send their live or recorded
meeting audio up to a server via their browser.  

My goal is to present an alternative to more expensive video webcasting
for small local government and community groups that want to "double"
their audience from 10 people a the room with a net connection by adding
another 10 online.

Details:
http://www.dowire.org/wiki/index.php/Democaster


Cheers,
Steven Clift


Steven Clift - http://publicus.net - Reply to: clift at publicus.net
Join DoWire: http://dowire.org
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From jigen at metalabs.org  Mon Jan 24 19:33:38 2005
From: jigen at metalabs.org (jigen)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:33:38 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] automake: Internal Error
In-Reply-To: <1106573564.1705.9.camel@utopia.metalabs.org>
References: <1106573564.1705.9.camel@utopia.metalabs.org>
Message-ID: <1106595218.1725.3.camel@utopia.metalabs.org>

-----Forwarded Message----- 
From: Alexandre Duret-Lutz <adl at src.lip6.fr>
To: jigen <jigen at metalabs.org>
Cc: bug-automake at gnu.org, icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: automake: Internal Error
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:30:32 +0100

On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 02:32:44PM +0100, jigen wrote:

> automake: unrequested trace `include'

This happens when Autoconf is modified to use BSD m4, as in the BSD ports.

> I'm using automake-1.9.4, autoconf-2.59 and bsd m4.
> I've found this previous post:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-automake/2004-11/msg00103.html
> but i can't find the patch.

I don't know OpenBSD.  Downloading and installing GNU M4, GNU
Autoconf, and GNU Automake by hand will surely get rid of this.



From giles at xiph.org  Mon Jan 24 20:47:11 2005
From: giles at xiph.org (Ralph Giles)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:47:11 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Your ideas ...
In-Reply-To: <02a001c50247$c65d6430$6500a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
References: <02a001c50247$c65d6430$6500a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
Message-ID: <20050124204711.GB7054@ghostscript.com>

On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 01:06:13PM -0600, Steven Clift wrote:

> I am looking for ideas on how to best webcast public meetings.  The
> general idea is to allow folks to easily send their live or recorded
> meeting audio up to a server via their browser.

I can see a browser-based interface for uploading previously recorded
and compressed content to a website, but I think it's going to be difficult
to do live recording that way. I guess you could write a java app, but
really, just helping with general live recording/streaming tools would 
be a better approach I think.

On the playback side however, I think you can do well by integrating
something like Fluendo's cortado applet for playback directly inside 
the content management system's webpages.

  http://www.flumotion.net/jar/cortado/
  http://mirror.fluendo.com/cortado/
  http://www.flumotion.net/src/cortado/

it already supports audio and video, and slide support is also planned.

> My goal is to present an alternative to more expensive video webcasting
> for small local government and community groups that want to "double"
> their audience from 10 people a the room with a net connection by adding
> another 10 online.

Sounds like an excellent project. Good luck with it!

 -r


From bob at sofsis.cl  Sun Jan 23 03:05:10 2005
From: bob at sofsis.cl (Phillip Neumann)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:05:10 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] .mp3 and .ogg  streamed both as .ogg
Message-ID: <41F31466.9010701@sofsis.cl>

Hello..

Im a new icecast user.
Im making an application, that  selects from my collection of mp3s, oggs 
(and flacs) and let them be streamd to icecast2. This takes the input 
from a PostgreSQL table, wich gets modified...

So far, im using ices, wich seems nice, becouse i can use the <script> 
type and it executes my_script to search a file, so ices takes that info 
(i.e. "/dir/my_file.ogg") and streams that file.

It works ok. But only for .ogg files. Im streaming to 
http://url:8000/example.ogg

Is it possible to stream there mp3 files?  i.e. How would i transform a 
mp3 to ogg in a streamed way, so i can let my script pipe the mp3 to ogg 
transformation and stream the ogg output to icecast?...



Thanks in advance!

-- 




_________________________
Phillip Neumann
phillip at sofsis.cl
www.sofsis.cl

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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Tue Jan 25 02:35:45 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:35:45 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] .mp3 and .ogg  streamed both as .ogg
In-Reply-To: <41F31466.9010701@sofsis.cl>
References: <41F31466.9010701@sofsis.cl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501251232220.6027@data.home>

Hi:

You could invoke a decoder like mpg123 or madplay and get it to decode to 
PCM, then take the PCM in via stdin and get Ices to encode and transmit. 
Though I think you might ahve to get ogg via stdin if you're using a 
script, so put ggenc in the pipe.  Now how you invoke it for those files 
alone is going to be a bit tricky.

Same with FLAC too I guess, though maybe FLAC input could be added to Ices 
(it's probably not that hard but I'm not a developer).

Geoff.


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From jburley at kuci.org  Tue Jan 25 02:57:48 2005
From: jburley at kuci.org (Josh Burley)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:57:48 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Different encodings on different ports
Message-ID: <41F5B5AC.60107@kuci.org>

Hi all,

    I'm looking to migrate from Shoutcast to Icecast. Our current 
configuration is such that we have a low bitrate encoding on port 8000, 
and a high bitrate encoding on 889. I've been looking through the 
documentation but haven't found a good way to make this happen in 
Icecast. We're using Darkice to stream to the server, and that does the 
different enodings fine, but from the Icecast side I can't figure out 
how to set the same mount point ( / ), have different data on different 
ports.

    Is this possible? Or do I have to run separate Icecast instances?

Thanks!

.josh

Josh Burley
Computing Manager
KUCI 88.9fm in Irvine




From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 03:15:28 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:15:28 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] Different encodings on different ports
In-Reply-To: <41F5B5AC.60107@kuci.org>
References: <41F5B5AC.60107@kuci.org>
Message-ID: <3c17372105012419155d8bbb49@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:57:48 -0800, Josh Burley <jburley at kuci.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>     I'm looking to migrate from Shoutcast to Icecast. Our current
> configuration is such that we have a low bitrate encoding on port 8000,
> and a high bitrate encoding on 889. I've been looking through the
> documentation but haven't found a good way to make this happen in
> Icecast. We're using Darkice to stream to the server, and that does the
> different enodings fine, but from the Icecast side I can't figure out
> how to set the same mount point ( / ), have different data on different
> ports.
> 
>     Is this possible? Or do I have to run separate Icecast instances?

You can run your two streams on one icecast, configuring them as (for
example) /lowbitrate and /highbitrate in your source client. Then you
can configure port-specific aliases for these, so you have "/ on port
8000" --> "/lowbitrate" and "/ on port 889" --> "/highbitrate".

>From the point of view of the source clients, they can use either
port, it'll make no difference at all (they won't be using the
aliases), but for the listening clients, they'll get the appropriate
port-specific alias.

I'm not sure if this (port-specific aliases) is properly documented,
though. If it's not, here's a quick summary. Configure an alias as
normal, but add an attribute: port="8000" (or 889, as appropriate).
Connections to the alias mountpoint will only be accepted if the
incoming request was on the appropriate port. Otherwise the alias will
be ignored (and it'll fall through and check the next alias).

Mike


From jsimmons at goblin.punk.net  Tue Jan 25 05:12:55 2005
From: jsimmons at goblin.punk.net (Jeff Simmons)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:12:55 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Sound card recommendation?
Message-ID: <200501242112.55589.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>

Can anyone recommend a good high-end sound card to use on a streaming server? 
Basically all I need are two channels, a good 96 kHz sampling chip, and it 
needs to run on Linux.

-- 
Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
     Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security

"You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
	-- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Tue Jan 25 05:28:53 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:28:53 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Sound card recommendation?
In-Reply-To: <200501242112.55589.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
References: <200501242112.55589.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
Message-ID: <41F5D915.2060703@ncsu.edu>

Do you need balanced or unbalanced?  +4dBu or -10 dBV?  For balanced +4 
dBu that is used for most professional audio, I highly recommend the 
M-Audio Delta 44, or 66 if you'd like to add digital for good measure. 
If all you need is unbalanced -10 or -4 dBV, the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 
is an excellent choice, and it quite affordable.  The Audiophile 192 is 
an advancement of the 2496 capable of 192 kHz sampling rate.  Mostly 
overkill in my opinion.

If you need anything higher end, the RME cards are well supported in 
Linux, but I've found the M-Audio cards to be quite effective and very 
high quality for what they do.

Joel

Jeff Simmons wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good high-end sound card to use on a streaming server? 
> Basically all I need are two channels, a good 96 kHz sampling chip, and it 
> needs to run on Linux.
> 


From greg at orban.com  Tue Jan 25 07:12:23 2005
From: greg at orban.com (Greg J. Ogonowski)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:12:23 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Sound card recommendation?
In-Reply-To: <200501242112.55589.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
References: <200501242112.55589.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050124230526.03d5aee0@66.220.31.130>

For this application, I would recommend any Envy24 based card such as most 
of the M-Audio cards.  They have several to choose from depending upon 
number of channels, sample-rate, and analog and/or digital I/O required.

These cards work very well and have Linux driver support.  I have used 
several to stream commercial radio stations using the digital inputs.

Terratec also uses the Envy24 chip on several cards, as do a few others.

-greg.



At 21:12 2005-01-24, Jeff Simmons wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a good high-end sound card to use on a streaming server?
>Basically all I need are two channels, a good 96 kHz sampling chip, and it
>needs to run on Linux.
>
>--
>Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
>      Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security
>
>"You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
>         -- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
>_______________________________________________
>Icecast mailing list
>Icecast at xiph.org
>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


__________________________________________________________________________
Greg J. Ogonowski
VP Product Development
ORBAN / CRL, Inc.
1525 Alvarado St.
San Leandro, CA  94577  USA
TEL +1 510 351-3500
FAX +1 510 351-0500
greg at orban.com
http://www.orban.com



From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Tue Jan 25 15:12:25 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Different encodings on different ports
In-Reply-To: <3c17372105012419155d8bbb49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <41F5B5AC.60107@kuci.org>
	<3c17372105012419155d8bbb49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1403218a05012507125a8d0169@mail.gmail.com>

a config snippet will help us



On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:15:28 +1100, Michael Smith <mlrsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:57:48 -0800, Josh Burley <jburley at kuci.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >     I'm looking to migrate from Shoutcast to Icecast. Our current
> > configuration is such that we have a low bitrate encoding on port 8000,
> > and a high bitrate encoding on 889. I've been looking through the
> > documentation but haven't found a good way to make this happen in
> > Icecast. We're using Darkice to stream to the server, and that does the
> > different enodings fine, but from the Icecast side I can't figure out
> > how to set the same mount point ( / ), have different data on different
> > ports.
> >
> >     Is this possible? Or do I have to run separate Icecast instances?
> 
> You can run your two streams on one icecast, configuring them as (for
> example) /lowbitrate and /highbitrate in your source client. Then you
> can configure port-specific aliases for these, so you have "/ on port
> 8000" --> "/lowbitrate" and "/ on port 889" --> "/highbitrate".
> 
> >From the point of view of the source clients, they can use either
> port, it'll make no difference at all (they won't be using the
> aliases), but for the listening clients, they'll get the appropriate
> port-specific alias.
> 
> I'm not sure if this (port-specific aliases) is properly documented,
> though. If it's not, here's a quick summary. Configure an alias as
> normal, but add an attribute: port="8000" (or 889, as appropriate).
> Connections to the alias mountpoint will only be accepted if the
> incoming request was on the appropriate port. Otherwise the alias will
> be ignored (and it'll fall through and check the next alias).
> 
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 


-- 
Mohamed Eldesoky
www.eldesoky.net
RHCE


From dan at gds.ro  Tue Jan 25 16:11:34 2005
From: dan at gds.ro (Dan V)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:11:34 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [Icecast] Darkice/Streamer
Message-ID: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>

Does anyone know if darkice can send the same stream to both an icecast and
a shoutcast sever, without encoding it twice ?
Or any suggestions for another streamer that can?

Thanks,
Dan


From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Tue Jan 25 17:34:05 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:34:05 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Darkice/Streamer
In-Reply-To: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
References: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
Message-ID: <41F6830D.3050406@ncsu.edu>

Darkice does not do this.  I'm not sure if anything else can.  Darkice 
runs a separate encoding for every section in the config file.

Joel

Dan V wrote:
> Does anyone know if darkice can send the same stream to both an icecast and
> a shoutcast sever, without encoding it twice ?
> Or any suggestions for another streamer that can?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Tue Jan 25 19:05:02 2005
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:05:02 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Darkice/Streamer
In-Reply-To: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
References: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
Message-ID: <41F6985E.5080708@tyrell.hu>

Dan V wrote:

 > Does anyone know if darkice can send the same stream to both an 
icecast and
 > a shoutcast sever, without encoding it twice ?


darkice at the moment does do this

 > Or any suggestions for another streamer that can?


what you can try is to relay (mirror) a stream from one server to the 
other. this is possible between icecast servers, I'm not sure if it's 
possible between icecast and shoutcast.


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Wed Jan 26 03:50:15 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:50:15 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] Darkice/Streamer
In-Reply-To: <41F6985E.5080708@tyrell.hu>
References: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro>
	<41F6985E.5080708@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501261348240.7369@data.home>

Akos Maroy wrote:

> what you can try is to relay (mirror) a stream from one server to the other. 
> this is possible between icecast servers, I'm not sure if it's possible 
> between icecast and shoutcast.

You can definitely relay a shoutcast server on an icecast server, and I'd 
be surprised if you couldn't do it the other way.

Geoff.



-- 
Geoff Shang <geoff at hitsandpieces.net>
Phone: +61-418-96-5590
MSN: geoff at acbradio.org

Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone!
http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html

Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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From jsimmons at goblin.punk.net  Thu Jan 27 02:39:36 2005
From: jsimmons at goblin.punk.net (Jeff Simmons)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:39:36 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Persistent audio streams?
In-Reply-To: <20050123200853.GC21684@ghostscript.com>
References: <200501221920.46756.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
	<20050123200853.GC21684@ghostscript.com>
Message-ID: <200501261839.36922.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>

On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:08, you wrote:

> The question is, why are the clients dropping? It could be your net
> flaking out. I've even heard of some ISPs cutting connections every
> 24 hours. 

Bingo. The stream drops at exactly midnight every night. Right on schedule. I 
expected better, especially since I'm paying extra for a business-level DSL 
connection.

I guess I probably shouldn't mention the name of the *S*tupid, *B*ad, 
*C*ompany that I get my DSL from in public, though ...

-- 
Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
     Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security

"You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
	-- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult


From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 09:36:57 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:36:57 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Persistent audio streams?
In-Reply-To: <200501261839.36922.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
References: <200501221920.46756.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
	<20050123200853.GC21684@ghostscript.com>
	<200501261839.36922.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>
Message-ID: <1403218a05012701367bdce9d0@mail.gmail.com>

Are you sure your connection is dropped ???
Run MRTG to make sure it is the link is dropping.


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:39:36 -0800, Jeff Simmons
<jsimmons at goblin.punk.net> wrote:
> On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:08, you wrote:
> 
> > The question is, why are the clients dropping? It could be your net
> > flaking out. I've even heard of some ISPs cutting connections every
> > 24 hours.
> 
> Bingo. The stream drops at exactly midnight every night. Right on schedule. I
> expected better, especially since I'm paying extra for a business-level DSL
> connection.
> 
> I guess I probably shouldn't mention the name of the *S*tupid, *B*ad,
> *C*ompany that I get my DSL from in public, though ...
> 
> --
> Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
>      Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security
> 
> "You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
>         -- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 


-- 
Mohamed Eldesoky
www.eldesoky.net
RHCE


From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 09:38:06 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:38:06 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] ices 2.0.1 release
In-Reply-To: <1106506658.3858.1652.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <1106506658.3858.1652.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <1403218a05012701383fcf1c4c@mail.gmail.com>

Why you don't develop ices0.4 anymore ??
Or even add the mp3 features to ices2 !!
Why maintain two codebases ??


On 23 Jan 2005 18:57:39 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> This is to announce version 2.0.1 of ices.  It is a small update to
> 2.0.0 and is compatible to existing configurations.
> 
> The most user-visible part of this update is in the ALSA input driver,
> which some people have reported as being a problem in some cases.
> 
> You can download the tar files from
> 
> http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/ices/
> 
> Summary of changes since 2.0.0
> . update ALSA input
> . add optional ogg page flush trigger
> . fix small memory issues on rare cases
> . doc and sample updates
> . small build updates
> 
> Please report any issues via trac.xiph.org
> 
> Icecast development team
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 


-- 
Mohamed Eldesoky
www.eldesoky.net
RHCE


From mlrsmith at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 09:54:55 2005
From: mlrsmith at gmail.com (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:54:55 +1100
Subject: [Icecast] ices 2.0.1 release
In-Reply-To: <1403218a05012701383fcf1c4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1106506658.3858.1652.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
	<1403218a05012701383fcf1c4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c173721050127015438998abf@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:38:06 +0200, Mohamed Eldesoky
<eldesoky.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why you don't develop ices0.4 anymore ??
> Or even add the mp3 features to ices2 !!
> Why maintain two codebases ??

Ices 0.x is still developed. So is ices2. They're independent
codebases with substantially different capabilities and users. Yes, in
retrospect naming it ices2 was a poor idea. Too late to correct that
one, though...

We won't add mp3 capabilities to ices2 as it is intended as part of
Xiph.Org's strategy to get users using freely available and freely
implementable codecs (such as vorbis, theora, etc.). The patent
restrictions on mp3 mean that it violates these aims.

Mike


From laszlo.bona at minimax.hu  Thu Jan 27 14:21:55 2005
From: laszlo.bona at minimax.hu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?B=F3na_L=E1szl=F3?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:21:55 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] change song
Message-ID: <41F8F903.7030202@minimax.hu>

Hi,
how can I know when changes song the ices2? Ices2 runs from playlist.
Laci


From jsimmons at goblin.punk.net  Thu Jan 27 15:18:33 2005
From: jsimmons at goblin.punk.net (Jeff Simmons)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:18:33 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Persistent audio streams?
Message-ID: <200501270718.33482.jsimmons@goblin.punk.net>

I am running MRTG.

But yeah, I guess I should look into a few more things before I shoot my mouth 
(so to speak) off.

On Thursday 27 January 2005 01:36, you wrote:
> Are you sure your connection is dropped ???
> Run MRTG to make sure it is the link is dropping.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:39:36 -0800, Jeff Simmons
>
> <jsimmons at goblin.punk.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:08, you wrote:
> > > The question is, why are the clients dropping? It could be your net
> > > flaking out. I've even heard of some ISPs cutting connections every
> > > 24 hours.
> >
> > Bingo. The stream drops at exactly midnight every night. Right on
> > schedule. I expected better, especially since I'm paying extra for a
> > business-level DSL connection.
> >
> > I guess I probably shouldn't mention the name of the *S*tupid, *B*ad,
> > *C*ompany that I get my DSL from in public, though ...
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
> >      Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security
> >
> > "You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
> >         -- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
> > _______________________________________________
> > Icecast mailing list
> > Icecast at xiph.org
> > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

-- 
Jeff Simmons                                   jsimmons at goblin.punk.net
     Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security

"You guys, I don't hear any noise. Are you sure you're doing it right?"
        -- My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult


From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Thu Jan 27 15:20:34 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:20:34 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] change song
In-Reply-To: <41F8F903.7030202@minimax.hu>
References: <41F8F903.7030202@minimax.hu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501280119170.7369@data.home>

B?na L?szl? wrote:

> how can I know when changes song the ices2? Ices2 runs from playlist.

You could write a script for Ices2 which walks through the playlist, and 
does whatever else you need done at song change time.  Then you could run 
Ices2 in script mode.

Geoff.

From mays at win.net  Fri Jan 28 15:22:45 2005
From: mays at win.net (Joe Mays)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:22:45 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Players halting
Message-ID: <056201c5054d$37d9f9e0$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>

I've had a few reports from people that they are listening to our stream and getting
the same behavior -- it runs for 5-30 seconds, then stops. The problem is that they
are using various players. One person reported the issue from media player 9, I was
listening from media player 9 at the same time and it had been playing fine for an
hour. Her version was actually slightly newer than mine. I've also had reports of
this behavior from people using AOL Radio and an xmms player on Freebsd. Most people
can listen fine. Has anyone else heard of this behavior here?

Joe




From mays at win.net  Fri Jan 28 15:24:19 2005
From: mays at win.net (Joe Mays)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:24:19 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] pidfile disabled
Message-ID: <056801c5054d$6fc1f510$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>

The pidfile is not being created on the server I am running icecast2 on (FreeBSD
4.11). The changelog in the source directory says the pidfile was disabled. How was
it disabled, why was it disabled, and is there any reason I shouldn't re-enable it?

Joe



From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan 28 15:43:32 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 28 Jan 2005 15:43:32 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] Players halting
In-Reply-To: <056201c5054d$37d9f9e0$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
References: <056201c5054d$37d9f9e0$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
Message-ID: <1106927012.26958.14.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 15:22, Joe Mays wrote:
> I've had a few reports from people that they are listening to our stream and getting
> the same behavior -- it runs for 5-30 seconds, then stops. The problem is that they
> are using various players. One person reported the issue from media player 9, I was
> listening from media player 9 at the same time and it had been playing fine for an
> hour. Her version was actually slightly newer than mine. I've also had reports of
> this behavior from people using AOL Radio and an xmms player on Freebsd. Most people
> can listen fine. Has anyone else heard of this behavior here?

assuming these streams are mp3, what icecast version are you using and
are these clients requesting metadata ?

I don't think the pidfile option was ever enabled by default, you have
to state where it goes and what name it has to be.

karl.




From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sat Jan 29 02:53:36 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:36 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] pidfile disabled
In-Reply-To: <056801c5054d$6fc1f510$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
References: <056801c5054d$6fc1f510$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501291252470.7369@data.home>

Joe Mays wrote:

> The pidfile is not being created on the server I am running icecast2 on (FreeBSD
> 4.11). The changelog in the source directory says the pidfile was disabled. How was
> it disabled, why was it disabled, and is there any reason I shouldn't re-enable it?

Have you uncommented the entry in the config file and set it to some place 
which the server can write to?

No reason to enable or disable it, if you want it, enable it.

Geoff.



From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 09:00:03 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:00:03 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] Players halting
In-Reply-To: <1106927012.26958.14.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <056201c5054d$37d9f9e0$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
	<1106927012.26958.14.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <1403218a05013001007bbec975@mail.gmail.com>

And what about their internet connection speed !?!?


On 28 Jan 2005 15:43:32 +0000, Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 15:22, Joe Mays wrote:
> > I've had a few reports from people that they are listening to our stream and getting
> > the same behavior -- it runs for 5-30 seconds, then stops. The problem is that they
> > are using various players. One person reported the issue from media player 9, I was
> > listening from media player 9 at the same time and it had been playing fine for an
> > hour. Her version was actually slightly newer than mine. I've also had reports of
> > this behavior from people using AOL Radio and an xmms player on Freebsd. Most people
> > can listen fine. Has anyone else heard of this behavior here?
> 
> assuming these streams are mp3, what icecast version are you using and
> are these clients requesting metadata ?
> 
> I don't think the pidfile option was ever enabled by default, you have
> to state where it goes and what name it has to be.
> 
> karl.
> 
> 
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From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 09:01:44 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:01:44 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] pidfile disabled
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501291252470.7369@data.home>
References: <056801c5054d$6fc1f510$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501291252470.7369@data.home>
Message-ID: <1403218a05013001015f27d14@mail.gmail.com>

Shouldn't it be a compile time option ?


On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:53:36 +1000, Geoff Shang <geoff at hitsandpieces.net> wrote:
> Joe Mays wrote:
> 
> > The pidfile is not being created on the server I am running icecast2 on (FreeBSD
> > 4.11). The changelog in the source directory says the pidfile was disabled. How was
> > it disabled, why was it disabled, and is there any reason I shouldn't re-enable it?
> 
> Have you uncommented the entry in the config file and set it to some place
> which the server can write to?
> 
> No reason to enable or disable it, if you want it, enable it.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
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From eldesoky.lists at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 09:05:36 2005
From: eldesoky.lists at gmail.com (Mohamed Eldesoky)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:05:36 +0200
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
In-Reply-To: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
References: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>

Allow me to re-phrase ??
You want your listeners to be able to change what is being played
according to their desires ???
I mean, you offer them the choice in a playlist format, to choose from !!!




On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:34:16 +0100, Carsten Henkel <carsten at chatlabel.de> wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I seek to be able itself to wish a desire box our listeners am to music, over ices am played have someone a recommendation for me?  can be gladly with mysql.  greeting
> 
> --
> Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
> Carsten Henkel                          mailto:carsten at chatlabel.de
> 
> In unserer Firma ist alles elektrisch - sogar das Gehalt versetzt einem einen Schlag.
> 
> dieser Text ist zuf?llig gew?hlt und hat nichts mit dem Empf?nger der e-Mail zu tun.
> 
> Carsten Henkel
> Passauer Stra?e 7
> 94577 Winzer
> tel.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-360
> fax.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-039
> 
> http://chatlabel.de
> http://radio.chatlabel.de
> 
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From carsten at chatlabel.de  Sun Jan 30 09:13:50 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:13:50 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
In-Reply-To: <1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
	<1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <841226872.20050130101350@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Mohamed Eldesoky,

Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2005 um 10:05 schrieben Sie:

ME> Allow me to re-phrase ??
ME> You want your listeners to be able to change what is being played
ME> according to their desires ???
ME> I mean, you offer them the choice in a playlist format, to choose from !!!

right, thas waht i want. sorry for my nice englisch *g
thomas give my http://raincast.thedreamrealm.com/, but this site is
offline.




ME> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:34:16 +0100, Carsten Henkel <carsten at chatlabel.de> wrote:
>> hi,
>> 
>> I seek to be able itself to wish a desire box our listeners am
>> to music, over ices am played have someone a recommendation for me?
>> can be gladly with mysql.  greeting
>> 
>> --
>> Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
>> Carsten Henkel                          mailto:carsten at chatlabel.de
>> 
>> In unserer Firma ist alles elektrisch - sogar das Gehalt versetzt einem einen Schlag.
>> 
>> dieser Text ist zuf?llig gew?hlt und hat nichts mit dem Empf?nger der e-Mail zu tun.
>> 
>> Carsten Henkel
>> Passauer Stra?e 7
>> 94577 Winzer
>> tel.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-360
>> fax.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-039
>> 
>> http://chatlabel.de
>> http://radio.chatlabel.de
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> 





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fax.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-039

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http://radio.chatlabel.de



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 30 09:31:44 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:31:44 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
In-Reply-To: <1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
	<1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501301929240.7369@data.home>

Hi:

Oddsock's songrequester plugin for Winamp might be the kind of thing you 
want.  http://www.oddsock.org/tools/gen_songrequester

Can't make any real good suggestions for non-windows operating systems, but 
there might be something out there.

Geoff.


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From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 30 09:35:08 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:35:08 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] pidfile disabled
In-Reply-To: <1403218a05013001015f27d14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <056801c5054d$6fc1f510$9b2118d8@ENGINEERING01>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501291252470.7369@data.home>
	<1403218a05013001015f27d14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501301932080.7369@data.home>

Mohamed Eldesoky wrote:

> Shouldn't it be a compile time option ?

Why?  Specifying where it should go would be difficult, and it would mean 
that you couldn't package it since people would want it in different 
places.  Anyway, compile time options are usually for selecting whether or 
not to compile support for a particular function, and there's really no 
point in not compiling in pidfile support.

Geoff.



From carsten at chatlabel.de  Sun Jan 30 09:37:29 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:37:29 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501301929240.7369@data.home>
References: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
	<1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501301929240.7369@data.home>
Message-ID: <619409826.20050130103729@chatlabel.de>

Guten Tag Geoff Shang,

Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2005 um 10:31 schrieben Sie:

GS> Hi:

GS> Oddsock's songrequester plugin for Winamp might be the kind of thing you
GS> want.  http://www.oddsock.org/tools/gen_songrequester

GS> Can't make any real good suggestions for non-windows operating systems, but
GS> there might be something out there.

GS> Geoff.


sorry, i mean a web aplication.


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fax.: 0049 (0)180-3684398-039

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http://radio.chatlabel.de



From geoff at hitsandpieces.net  Sun Jan 30 13:48:10 2005
From: geoff at hitsandpieces.net (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:48:10 +1000
Subject: [Icecast] desire box
In-Reply-To: <619409826.20050130103729@chatlabel.de>
References: <1855395436.20050121183416@chatlabel.de>
	<1403218a0501300105859fa99@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501301929240.7369@data.home>
	<619409826.20050130103729@chatlabel.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501302344350.22110@data.home>

Carsten Henkel wrote:

> GS> Oddsock's songrequester plugin for Winamp might be the kind of thing you
> GS> want.  http://www.oddsock.org/tools/gen_songrequester
>
> GS> Can't make any real good suggestions for non-windows operating systems, but
> GS> there might be something out there.
>
> sorry, i mean a web aplication.

It is a web application, in so far as it presents a webpage to the user. 
To see it in action, visit http://interactive.acbradio.org during the times 
that we have no live presenters on air.  These are typically mornings GMT 
(i.e. during the US late night), but you can look at our schedule for exact 
times.

Geoff.



From graver at graver.xs4all.nl  Sun Jan 30 18:25:01 2005
From: graver at graver.xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:25:01 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 404 in the stats page
Message-ID: <41FD267D.6080207@graver.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

When I open the stats page on the icecast server, I get the basic info,
but images and stuff generate 404's, although all the files are there
and readable by the user that icecast runs under:

This one works:
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:08 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 44
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b)
Gecko/20050129" 0

These fail:

80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET /style.css HTTP/1.1"
404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET /corner_topleft.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET
/corner_bottomleft.jpg HTTP/1.1" 404 109
"http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:10 +0000] "GET /icecast.png
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0

Contents of dir: /usr/local/share/icecast/web :

-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  1892 Jan 19 21:37 auth.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8164 Jan 19 21:37 corner_bottomleft.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8155 Jan 19 21:37 corner_bottomright.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8149 Jan 19 21:37 corner_topleft.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8151 Jan 19 21:37 corner_topright.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  5073 Jan 19 21:37 icecast.png
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  1517 Jan 19 21:37 key.gif
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  3411 Jan 19 21:37 status.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox   891 Jan 19 21:37 status2.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  3998 Jan 19 21:37 style.css

Relevant parts of the configfile:

     <paths>
         <basedir>/usr/local/share/icecast</basedir>
         <logdir>/log</logdir>
         <webroot>/web</webroot>
         <adminroot>/admin</adminroot>
         <pidfile>/icecast.pid</pidfile>
         <alias source="/" dest="/status.xsl"/>
     </paths>

     <security>
         <chroot>1</chroot>
         <changeowner>
             <user>jukebox</user>
             <group>jukebox</group>
         </changeowner>
     </security>


Does anybody has an idea of what I might be doing wrong, might be set
wrong or whatever.

Thanks in advance.





From rdude at fuzzelfish.com  Sun Jan 30 18:54:01 2005
From: rdude at fuzzelfish.com (rdude =))
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:54:01 -0800
Subject: [Icecast] Re: desire box
Message-ID: <B0079526351@mail8.nshosts.com>

I know SAM2 (or rather, SAM3 now) has this functionality built-in:
http://spacialaudio.com/

It is disabled by default and difficult to step though. Not to mention the
cost of the entire application.

What I found worked the best for me is to have my website output to a file
whatever song somebody clicked on. A script would check the file every few
seconds, and then execute my media player with the name of the song that was
in the file. Pretty simple, but it worked. The system is disabled now, but
you can check out what it worked like at:

http://rdude.com/lg/mymusic.asp

Currently, my stream is disabled, but that should give you something of an
idea of how the thing works.

-rdude =)



From jfmays at launchpad.win.net  Wed Jan 26 14:28:33 2005
From: jfmays at launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:28:33 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] Players halting
References: <1750.193.230.152.4.1106669494.squirrel@kiki.gds.ro><41F6985E.5080708@tyrell.hu>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0501261348240.7369@data.home>
Message-ID: <000d01c503b3$511c5dd0$441818d8@launchpad02>

I've had a few reports from people that they are listening to our
stream and getting the same behavior -- it runs for 5-30 seconds, then
stops. The problem is that they are using various players. One person
reported the issue from media player 9, I was listening from media
player 9 at the same time and it had been playing fine for an hour.
Her version was actually slightly newer than mine. I've also had
reports of this behavior from people using AOL Radio and an xmms
player on Freebsd. Most people can listen fine. Has anyone else heard
of this behavior here?

Joe



From f.letteboer at xs4all.nl  Sun Jan 30 18:23:59 2005
From: f.letteboer at xs4all.nl (Frits Letteboer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:23:59 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Icecast 404 in the stats page
Message-ID: <41FD263F.9000201@xs4all.nl>

Hi,

When I open the stats page on the icecast server, I get the basic info, 
but images and stuff generate 404's, although all the files are there 
and readable by the user that icecast runs under:

This one works:
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:08 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 44 
"-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) 
Gecko/20050129" 0

These fail:

80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET /style.css HTTP/1.1" 
404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; 
Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET /corner_topleft.jpg 
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:09 +0000] "GET 
/corner_bottomleft.jpg HTTP/1.1" 404 109 
"http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows 
NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0
80.127.65.160 - - [30/Jan/2005:18:15:10 +0000] "GET /icecast.png 
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "http://ares.radiozilvervos.com:8000/" "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl-NL; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050129" 0

Contents of dir: /usr/local/share/icecast/web :

-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  1892 Jan 19 21:37 auth.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8164 Jan 19 21:37 corner_bottomleft.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8155 Jan 19 21:37 corner_bottomright.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8149 Jan 19 21:37 corner_topleft.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  8151 Jan 19 21:37 corner_topright.jpg
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  5073 Jan 19 21:37 icecast.png
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  1517 Jan 19 21:37 key.gif
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  3411 Jan 19 21:37 status.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox   891 Jan 19 21:37 status2.xsl
-rwxr-xr-x  1 jukebox  jukebox  3998 Jan 19 21:37 style.css

Relevant parts of the configfile:

     <paths>
         <basedir>/usr/local/share/icecast</basedir>
         <logdir>/log</logdir>
         <webroot>/web</webroot>
         <adminroot>/admin</adminroot>
         <pidfile>/icecast.pid</pidfile>
         <alias source="/" dest="/status.xsl"/>
     </paths>

     <security>
         <chroot>1</chroot>
         <changeowner>
             <user>jukebox</user>
             <group>jukebox</group>
         </changeowner>
     </security>


Does anybody has an idea of what I might be doing wrong, might be set 
wrong or whatever.

Thanks in advance.




From carsten at chatlabel.de  Mon Jan 31 06:57:00 2005
From: carsten at chatlabel.de (Carsten Henkel)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:57:00 +0100
Subject: [Icecast] Re: desire box
In-Reply-To: <B0079526351@mail8.nshosts.com>
References: <B0079526351@mail8.nshosts.com>
Message-ID: <908345901.20050131075700@chatlabel.de>

Guten Morgen rdude =),

Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2005 um 19:54 schrieben Sie:

r> I know SAM2 (or rather, SAM3 now) has this functionality built-in:
r> http://spacialaudio.com/

i have sam for our outher stream, it works fine with the request list.
but un this stream, im streaming with ices on the icecast. all that
software runs on te same internet server. there is no windows, only
linux. i have only one server, no workstation.

r> What I found worked the best for me is to have my website output to a file
r> whatever song somebody clicked on. A script would check the file every few
r> seconds, and then execute my media player with the name of the song that was
r> in the file.

i have no mediaplayer, no winamp, no sam etc....

have a lot of thanks to you

carsten


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http://radio.chatlabel.de



From brian at malvernconsulting.com  Mon Jan 31 16:14:31 2005
From: brian at malvernconsulting.com (Brian Beck)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:14:31 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from anywhere
	else.
Message-ID: <ABELLMNNEIGOACECNEHJKEHGFDAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>

Hi all,

Icecast 2.2.0, ices 2.0, Fedora Core 3, source install (not rpm).

On the local machine that icecast is running on, everything is fine and I
can play by browsing to localhost or it's 192.168.5.33 address.  Either
bring up the page showing the stream(s) available and clicking on the stream
will start realplayer from mozilla on the FC3 box.  Great.

>From any other machine on the LAN or from remote computers out the VPN or
from elsewhere on the internet, I still see the webpage that shows available
streams (which tells me it is not a port forwarding or firewall problem,
right?) but clicking on the stream seems to do nothing.  I've tried from
multiple windows machines and a mac (no other linux boxes with sound
configured here) and I've tried multiple players on each including real
player, itunes, and winamp (only real and itunes on the mac, obviously).

I have logging set to 4 on both ices and icecast.  I see nothing unusual in
the logs...no errors or warnings.  I do not know if this is an icecast or
ices problem...sorry if this question belongs elsewhere.  I'm stuck.  Any
pointers?  I've gone through my icecast and ices config files over and over
again, trying a couple changes here and there to no avail.  The icecast box
is sitting behind an IPCop firewall with TCP 8000 forwarded from the
external IP.  Clients I've tried inside the firewall behave identical to
those on the outside.



From brian at malvernconsulting.com  Mon Jan 31 16:46:00 2005
From: brian at malvernconsulting.com (Brian Beck)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:46:00 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from anywhere
	else.
In-Reply-To: <41FE5C12.4040406@ludd.ltu.se>
Message-ID: <ABELLMNNEIGOACECNEHJCEHIFDAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>

>This seems like you haven't set the <hostname> correctly in the icecast
>config

That is the problem for external connects...thanks.

the .m3u contains "http://192.168.5.33:8000/ices.ogg"

which is actually fine for my purposes since I'm not looking
to make this a public stream (I'll just be using it for tunes
at work (via VPN), eventually streaming a live feed from an
XM radio at home).

I've got some more information now after running ethereal:

Itunes in windows will connect and buffer then stop receiving the stream.
Winamp on the same machine will continue accpeting the stream but plays
nothing.
I'm using 128k stereo oggs.



From karl at xiph.org  Mon Jan 31 16:54:26 2005
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 31 Jan 2005 16:54:26 +0000
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from
	anywhere else.
In-Reply-To: <ABELLMNNEIGOACECNEHJCEHIFDAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>
References: <ABELLMNNEIGOACECNEHJCEHIFDAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <1107190466.30582.71.camel@bogus.hackers.club>

On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:46, Brian Beck wrote:

> I've got some more information now after running ethereal:
> 
> Itunes in windows will connect and buffer then stop receiving the stream.
> Winamp on the same machine will continue accpeting the stream but plays
> nothing.
> I'm using 128k stereo oggs.

Itunes doesn't play ogg AFAIK

winamp 2.9x/5.x can but remember to append the .ogg extension on the
mountpoint or else it treats it as mp3.

karl.




From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Mon Jan 31 17:23:19 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from	anywhere
	else.
In-Reply-To: <1107190466.30582.71.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
References: <ABELLMNNEIGOACECNEHJCEHIFDAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>
	<1107190466.30582.71.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <41FE6987.4020902@ncsu.edu>

Also don't forget that the full version of WinAmp is required to play 
oggs.  The lite version doesn't support it.  iTunes can play local .ogg 
files but not streams if you download the ogg components from 
qtcomponents.sf.net.  I haven't messed with real player, and I have no 
intention of doing so.

Joel

Karl Heyes wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:46, Brian Beck wrote:
> 
> 
>>I've got some more information now after running ethereal:
>>
>>Itunes in windows will connect and buffer then stop receiving the stream.
>>Winamp on the same machine will continue accpeting the stream but plays
>>nothing.
>>I'm using 128k stereo oggs.
> 
> 
> Itunes doesn't play ogg AFAIK
> 
> winamp 2.9x/5.x can but remember to append the .ogg extension on the
> mountpoint or else it treats it as mp3.
> 
> karl.
> 
> 
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> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast


From brian at malvernconsulting.com  Mon Jan 31 18:01:48 2005
From: brian at malvernconsulting.com (Brian Beck)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:01:48 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not
	from	anywhereelse.
In-Reply-To: <41FE6987.4020902@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <MEEAJOHCPEGIMPBHIOOJAEKHCHAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>

Thanks all for the prompt replies.  It turned out to be a client issues all
the way around.  The winamp versions I tried  as well as my friends all were
the lite version.  I was not aware that iTunes could play local oggs but not
streams but apparently that's exactly the case (and possibly a similar issue
with real since the only place real would play it was locally on the FC3
box).

I installed the full winamp version and all is well at least for my windows
machines.

-----Original Message-----
From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org]On
Behalf Of Joel Ebel
Sent: 01/31/2005 12:23 PM
To: icecast
Subject: Re: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from
anywhereelse.


Also don't forget that the full version of WinAmp is required to play
oggs.  The lite version doesn't support it.  iTunes can play local .ogg
files but not streams if you download the ogg components from
qtcomponents.sf.net.  I haven't messed with real player, and I have no
intention of doing so.

Joel

Karl Heyes wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:46, Brian Beck wrote:
>
>
>>I've got some more information now after running ethereal:
>>
>>Itunes in windows will connect and buffer then stop receiving the stream.
>>Winamp on the same machine will continue accpeting the stream but plays
>>nothing.
>>I'm using 128k stereo oggs.
>
>
> Itunes doesn't play ogg AFAIK
>
> winamp 2.9x/5.x can but remember to append the .ogg extension on the
> mountpoint or else it treats it as mp3.
>
> karl.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast



From jbebel at ncsu.edu  Mon Jan 31 18:11:54 2005
From: jbebel at ncsu.edu (Joel Ebel)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:11:54 -0500
Subject: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but
	not	from	anywhereelse.
In-Reply-To: <MEEAJOHCPEGIMPBHIOOJAEKHCHAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>
References: <MEEAJOHCPEGIMPBHIOOJAEKHCHAA.brian@malvernconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <41FE74EA.407@ncsu.edu>

Yep.  Listening to an ogg icecast stream on a mac seems to be in a sad 
state.  qtcomponents just doesn't work for streams.  It would be great 
if it did.  That would make everyone happy I'm sure.  VLC will play ogg 
streams, but the audio quality I've found to be horrible.  It gets 
clicks and pops, It seems to play back the audio at a different speed, 
changing the pitch.  And then it tries to resample or something to 
correct it.  Anyway, it's unacceptable.  Audion seems to work pretty 
well, but it's an abandoned project.  Whamb is in similar shoes.  While 
they don't admit to being abandoned, the last release was years ago. 
And MacAmp Lite also admits to being abandoned.  Nothing is ideal.

Joel

Brian Beck wrote:
> Thanks all for the prompt replies.  It turned out to be a client issues all
> the way around.  The winamp versions I tried  as well as my friends all were
> the lite version.  I was not aware that iTunes could play local oggs but not
> streams but apparently that's exactly the case (and possibly a similar issue
> with real since the only place real would play it was locally on the FC3
> box).
> 
> I installed the full winamp version and all is well at least for my windows
> machines.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icecast-bounces at xiph.org [mailto:icecast-bounces at xiph.org]On
> Behalf Of Joel Ebel
> Sent: 01/31/2005 12:23 PM
> To: icecast
> Subject: Re: [Icecast] I can listen to a stream locally but not from
> anywhereelse.
> 
> 
> Also don't forget that the full version of WinAmp is required to play
> oggs.  The lite version doesn't support it.  iTunes can play local .ogg
> files but not streams if you download the ogg components from
> qtcomponents.sf.net.  I haven't messed with real player, and I have no
> intention of doing so.
> 
> Joel
> 
> Karl Heyes wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 16:46, Brian Beck wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've got some more information now after running ethereal:
>>>
>>>Itunes in windows will connect and buffer then stop receiving the stream.
>>>Winamp on the same machine will continue accpeting the stream but plays
>>>nothing.
>>>I'm using 128k stereo oggs.
>>
>>
>>Itunes doesn't play ogg AFAIK
>>
>>winamp 2.9x/5.x can but remember to append the .ogg extension on the
>>mountpoint or else it treats it as mp3.
>>
>>karl.
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Icecast mailing list
>>Icecast at xiph.org
>>http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
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