From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  1 01:00:39 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:00:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not start logging
In-Reply-To: <200312311040.38494.abo@degeneve.net>
Message-ID: <20040101010039.16830.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com>



Greetings!

Running into a snag when trying to fire up icecast:

icecast -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/icecast.xml
Changed groupid to 503
Changed userid to 503
FATAL: could not open error logging
FATAL: could not open access logging
FATAL: could not start logging

Anybody see this before?  In the icecast.xml file i
specified the logdir to be /usr/local/icecast2/logs

and have touched the 2 log files error.log and
access.log in this dir.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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From stauf at freshcheese.net  Thu Jan  1 01:33:11 2004
From: stauf at freshcheese.net (Mr. Stauf)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:33:11 -0700
Subject: [icecast] could not start logging
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Hello!
Whenever I get that error, its due to either the directory/file not existing,
or having the wrong file permissions.  Remember, it needs the file permissions
of the user you created to be "icecast".
Happy holidays all
--stauf

On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 05:00:39PM -0800, jensen galan wrote:

> Greetings!
> 
> Running into a snag when trying to fire up icecast:
> 
> icecast -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/icecast.xml
> Changed groupid to 503
> Changed userid to 503
> FATAL: could not open error logging
> FATAL: could not open access logging
> FATAL: could not start logging
> 
> Anybody see this before?  In the icecast.xml file i
> specified the logdir to be /usr/local/icecast2/logs
> 
> and have touched the 2 log files error.log and
> access.log in this dir.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> jg
> 
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan  1 02:14:43 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:14:43 -0600
Subject: [icecast] could not start logging
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when using chroot, all paths are relative to the directory set in 
<basedir>, so, if you set basedir to /home/me/chrooted, and logdir to 
/usr/local/log, and you are using chroot (which you seem to be due to the 
"changed groupid" etc. msgs) then the actual logdir will be 
/home/me/chrooted/usr/local/log...

oddsock
At 05:00 PM 12/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Greetings!
>
>Running into a snag when trying to fire up icecast:
>
>icecast -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/icecast.xml
>Changed groupid to 503
>Changed userid to 503
>FATAL: could not open error logging
>FATAL: could not open access logging
>FATAL: could not start logging
>
>Anybody see this before?  In the icecast.xml file i
>specified the logdir to be /usr/local/icecast2/logs
>
>and have touched the 2 log files error.log and
>access.log in this dir.
>
>Thanks for your suggestions.
>
>jg
>
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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  1 03:39:28 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:39:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not start logging
In-Reply-To: <20040101013311.GA2234@freshcheese.net>
Message-ID: <20040101033928.23464.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com>



Thanks for the reply.

You were right - chown was needed.

You know you're stuff mr. stauf!

jg

--- "Mr. Stauf" <stauf at freshcheese.net> wrote:
> Hello!
> Whenever I get that error, its due to either the
> directory/file not existing,
> or having the wrong file permissions.  Remember, it
> needs the file permissions
> of the user you created to be "icecast".
> Happy holidays all
> --stauf
> 
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 05:00:39PM -0800, jensen
> galan wrote:
> 
> > Greetings!
> > 
> > Running into a snag when trying to fire up
> icecast:
> > 
> > icecast -c /usr/local/icecast2/conf/icecast.xml
> > Changed groupid to 503
> > Changed userid to 503
> > FATAL: could not open error logging
> > FATAL: could not open access logging
> > FATAL: could not start logging
> > 
> > Anybody see this before?  In the icecast.xml file
> i
> > specified the logdir to be
> /usr/local/icecast2/logs
> > 
> > and have touched the 2 log files error.log and
> > access.log in this dir.
> > 
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> > 
> > jg
> > 
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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Tue Jan  6 23:50:29 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:50:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
Message-ID: <20040106235029.19562.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com>



greetings!

when i try to start the icecast server i get the
following error:

Could not create listener socket on port 8000
Server startup failed.  Exiting.

I did make sure that iptables has port 8000 open for
tcp.

Any suggestions for troubleshooting?  Thanks.

jg

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From remco at rc6.org  Wed Jan  7 14:23:29 2004
From: remco at rc6.org (Remco B. Brink)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:23:29 +0100
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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<quote who="jensen galan">

> greetings!
> 
> when i try to start the icecast server i get the
> following error:
> 
> Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> Server startup failed.  Exiting.
> 
> I did make sure that iptables has port 8000 open for
> tcp.
> 
> Any suggestions for troubleshooting?  Thanks.

You might already have something listening on port 8000?

-rbb


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From oliver at ojms.org.uk  Wed Jan  7 17:41:17 2004
From: oliver at ojms.org.uk (Oliver Stirling)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:41:17 +0000
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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Remco B. Brink wrote:

><quote who="jensen galan">
>
>  
>
>>greetings!
>>
>>when i try to start the icecast server i get the
>>following error:
>>
>>Could not create listener socket on port 8000
>>Server startup failed.  Exiting.
>>
>>I did make sure that iptables has port 8000 open for
>>tcp.
>>
>>Any suggestions for troubleshooting?  Thanks.
>>    
>>
>
>You might already have something listening on port 8000?
>
>-rbb
>
>  
>
try:

netstat -anp |grep :8000

that should show you what program would be using port 8000

Oli
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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 18:22:49 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:22:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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Message-ID: <20040107182249.97703.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com>



> >
> >>greetings!
> >>
> >>when i try to start the icecast server i get the
> >>following error:
> >>
> >>Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> >>Server startup failed.  Exiting.
> >>
> >>I did make sure that iptables has port 8000 open
> for
> >>tcp.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions for troubleshooting?  Thanks.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >You might already have something listening on port
> 8000?
> >
> >-rbb
> >
> >  
> >
> try:
> 
> netstat -anp |grep :8000
> 
> that should show you what program would be using
> port 8000
> 
> Oli

thanks for the advice!

i tried the netstat command to see if anything is
running on port 8000, and it came up empty.

any other suggestions?  really appreciate this.

jg

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From oliver at ojms.org.uk  Wed Jan  7 19:08:03 2004
From: oliver at ojms.org.uk (Oliver Stirling)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:08:03 +0000
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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Message-ID: <3FFC5913.9050003@ojms.org.uk>



jensen galan wrote:

>thanks for the advice!
>
>i tried the netstat command to see if anything is
>running on port 8000, and it came up empty.
>
>any other suggestions?  really appreciate this.
>
>jg
>
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>
Do you have the server configured on the correct ip address (clutching 
at straws) as I supose it might come up with that.

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  7 19:41:17 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:41:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
In-Reply-To: <3FFC5913.9050003@ojms.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20040107194117.37690.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Oliver Stirling <oliver at ojms.org.uk> wrote:
> jensen galan wrote:
> 
> >thanks for the advice!
> >
> >i tried the netstat command to see if anything is
> >running on port 8000, and it came up empty.
> >
> >any other suggestions?  really appreciate this.
> >
> >jg
> >
> >__________________________________
> >  
> >
> Do you have the server configured on the correct ip
> address (clutching 
> at straws) as I supose it might come up with that.
> 
> Oli

i think i have the icecast.xml file configured
correctly:

<hostname>localhost</hostname>
<port>8000</port>

<listen-socket>
   <port>8000</port>
   <bind-address>192.168.1.99</bind-address>
</listen-socket>

i have a linux box running the icecast server behind a
router on my private network.  is this configuration
ok?

thanks again.

jg

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From gshang at pacific.net.au  Wed Jan  7 23:36:57 2004
From: gshang at pacific.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:36:57 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, jensen galan wrote:

> <hostname>localhost</hostname>
> <port>8000</port>
>
> <listen-socket>
>    <port>8000</port>
>    <bind-address>192.168.1.99</bind-address>
> </listen-socket>

ah.  I think I see your problem.  You don't want to use both of these port
values.  If you want it to just use one port on all interfaces, use the
first one.  If you only want it to use port 8000 on the 192.168 interface,
or if you want to use multiple ports, use the second one.  Don't use both,
as it will try and do both and obviously fail.

Geoff.

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  8 08:43:10 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:43:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] could not create listener socket on port 8000
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thanks for the advice.
decided to reformat the machine - start from scratch.
will try your suggestions next.

jg

<p>--- Geoff Shang <gshang at pacific.net.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, jensen galan wrote:
> 
> > <hostname>localhost</hostname>
> > <port>8000</port>
> >
> > <listen-socket>
> >    <port>8000</port>
> >    <bind-address>192.168.1.99</bind-address>
> > </listen-socket>
> 
> ah.  I think I see your problem.  You don't want to
> use both of these port
> values.  If you want it to just use one port on all
> interfaces, use the
> first one.  If you only want it to use port 8000 on
> the 192.168 interface,
> or if you want to use multiple ports, use the second
> one.  Don't use both,
> as it will try and do both and obviously fail.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan  8 15:15:32 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:15:32 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Announcing Version 2.0.0 of Icecast
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After many years of development and testing, icecast has finally moved to 
2.0.0.

What's new in 2.0 ?
   * completely rewritten codebase from 1.x - highly efficient and low 
memory usage.
   * addition of new media types (Ogg Vorbis) and a framework to add new 
ones easier. Icecast still supports MP3 streaming as well (including 
shoutcast-style metadata)
   * a web-based administration interface
   * supports listing in stream directories
   * new relay system
   * stability - icecast 2.0.0 has been tested extremely thoroughly.
   * many other features!

Additionally, for the occasion we have done a rewrite of the icecast.org 
website and have new features on tap for both icecast and the website.

We would like to personally thank anyone who has contributed so far to the 
development and testing of icecast, without such a cooperative effort, we 
would never have gotten this far..

icecast development team
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From jesper.johnson at welho.com  Thu Jan  8 15:17:54 2004
From: jesper.johnson at welho.com (Jesper Johnson)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:17:54 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Announcing Version 2.0.0 of Icecast
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Terse!

N?k?j??n V2 on nyt stable! Pit?? asentaa...

At 09:15 8.1.2004 -0600, you wrote:
>After many years of development and testing, icecast has finally moved to 
>2.0.0.
>
>What's new in 2.0 ?
>   * completely rewritten codebase from 1.x - highly efficient and low 
>memory usage.
>   * addition of new media types (Ogg Vorbis) and a framework to add new 
>ones easier. Icecast still supports MP3 streaming as well (including 
>shoutcast-style metadata)
>   * a web-based administration interface
>   * supports listing in stream directories
>   * new relay system
>   * stability - icecast 2.0.0 has been tested extremely thoroughly.
>   * many other features!
>
>Additionally, for the occasion we have done a rewrite of the icecast.org 
>website and have new features on tap for both icecast and the website.
>
>We would like to personally thank anyone who has contributed so far to the 
>development and testing of icecast, without such a cooperative effort, we 
>would never have gotten this far..
>
>icecast development team
>http://www.icecast.org
>
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan  8 15:19:02 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:19:02 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Announcing Version 2.0.0 of Icecast
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040108091807.039f77c8@www.oddsock.org>



After many years of development and testing, icecast has finally moved to 
2.0.0.

What's new in 2.0 ?

   * completely rewritten codebase from 1.x - highly efficient and low 
memory usage.
   * addition of new media types (Ogg Vorbis) and a framework to add new 
ones easier. Icecast still supports MP3 streaming as well  including 
shoutcast-style metadata)
   * a web-based administration interface
   * supports listing in stream directories
   * new relay system
   * stability - icecast 2.0.0 has been tested extremely thoroughly.
   * many other features!

Additionally, for the occasion we have done a rewrite of the icecast.org 
website and have new features on tap for both icecast and the website.

We would like to personally thank anyone who has contributed so far to the 
development and testing of icecast, without such a cooperative effort, we 
would never have gotten this far..

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From jesper.johnson at welho.com  Thu Jan  8 15:23:21 2004
From: jesper.johnson at welho.com (Jesper Johnson)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:23:21 +0200
Subject: [icecast] oops, ignore my previous message
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Hit reply instead of forward, sorry for the disturbance!

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Thu Jan  8 15:26:10 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:26:10 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Announcing Version 2.0.0 of Icecast
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At 05:17 PM 1/8/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>Terse!
>
>N?k?j??n V2 on nyt stable! Pit?? asentaa...
huh ? translation please ?

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From forum-gateway at xiph.org  Fri Jan  9 15:15:27 2004
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Please ignore this message

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From mat.harris at genestate.com  Fri Jan  9 15:24:27 2004
From: mat.harris at genestate.com (Mat Harris)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:24:27 +0000
Subject: [icecast] working before, now access denied
Message-ID: <20040109152427.C12639@genestate.com>


Hi, I have been using icecast2 with ices+perl to stream, and it is great

I just added lame support to the machine and recompiled ices to use it
so i could re-encode for a low-bandwidth mount, but now ices keeps
saying:

[2004-01-09  14:50:51] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source logging in at mountpoint "/"
[2004-01-09  14:50:51] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source (/) attempted to login with invalid or missing password

in the logs for every connection ices makes. Ices also gives and error:

Playing /music/Rage Against the Machine/rage against the machine/05-bullet_in_the_head_192_blade_cbr.mp3
Error during send: Mount failed on http://10.194.217.1:8000/ices.ogg, error: Could not login on server. Server message: HTTP/1.0 401 Authentication Required

The error is also repeated as ices retries. As i said before, the ONLY
things that have changed are the binaries (and supporting files) from
when I recompiled ices. I made a backup of the ices.conf and ices.pm 
and restored them after the re-install.

I don't know why but the source is requesting /ices.ogg but icecast
is only seeing the request as "/". it has always said /ices.ogg before.
The passwords are correct (triple checked).

I am out of ideas and need any help you've got.

<p>thanks in advance

mat harrison

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From boink at tetter.xs4all.nl  Fri Jan  9 20:20:37 2004
From: boink at tetter.xs4all.nl (boink)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:20:37 +0100
Subject: [icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2
Message-ID: <20040109202036.GA10211@tetter.xs4all.nl>



hello!

While trying to compile the new and final icecast2, I got this compile
error on the make:

make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2

hmm, looks like a libxsl error. though, I installed the latest libs of
libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz) before compiling. 

do I need something else?

boink


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From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan  9 20:23:58 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 09 Jan 2004 20:23:58 +0000
Subject: [icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2
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On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 20:20, boink wrote:
> hello!
> 
> While trying to compile the new and final icecast2, I got this compile
> error on the make:
> 
> make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> 
> hmm, looks like a libxsl error. though, I installed the latest libs of
> libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz) before compiling. 
> 
> do I need something else?

yeah, tell us the bit the actually failed to compile, it's in xslt.c but
what is the actual error.

karl.

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From boink at tetter.xs4all.nl  Fri Jan  9 21:41:26 2004
From: boink at tetter.xs4all.nl (boink)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:41:26 +0100
Subject: [icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2 <= more detail
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here's a little more detail:

ource='xslt.c' object='xslt.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/xslt.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/xslt.TPo' \
depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../depcomp \
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -Wall -ffast-math -fsigned-char
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2  -pthread -g -O2 -c
`test -f 'xslt.c' || echo './'`xslt.c
xslt.c: In function `xslt_shutdown':
xslt.c:67: warning: implicit declaration of function `free'
xslt.c: In function `xslt_transform':
xslt.c:149: `xmlLoadExtDtdDefaultValue' undeclared (first use in this
function)
xslt.c:149: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
xslt.c:149: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2

hmm, I don't know if it's a problem on my debian woody box. libtool is
installed, though the .deb

b.

On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 08:23:58PM +0000, Karl Heyes wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 20:20, boink wrote:
> > hello!
> > 
> > While trying to compile the new and final icecast2, I got this compile
> > error on the make:
> > 
> > make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
> > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > 
> > hmm, looks like a libxsl error. though, I installed the latest libs of
> > libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz) before compiling. 
> > 
> > do I need something else?
> 
> yeah, tell us the bit the actually failed to compile, it's in xslt.c but
> what is the actual error.
> 
> karl.
> 
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From tenminuteslater at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  9 21:39:05 2004
From: tenminuteslater at hotmail.com (ronnie escobedo)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:39:05 +0000
Subject: [icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2>
Message-ID: <BAY8-F30CtJodRySqer00018ada@hotmail.com>



you also need the dev's aswell

<p>>
>hello!
>
>While trying to compile the new and final icecast2, I got this compile
>error on the make:
>
>make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
>make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
>make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
>make: *** [all] Error 2
>
>hmm, looks like a libxsl error. though, I installed the latest libs of
>libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz) before compiling.
>
>do I need something else?
>
>boink
>
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From karl at xiph.org  Sat Jan 10 01:02:16 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 10 Jan 2004 01:02:16 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3
Message-ID: <1073696535.8253.2587.camel@bogus.hackers.club>



This is to announce the release of ices 2.0 beta 3. The source client
for streaming Ogg Vorbis to Icecast 2.

After far too much time having passed since beta 2, where many fixes and
updates have been applied, it's time to push for a full 2.0 release. 
This beta is really to flush out any remaining issues, so no new
functionality is to be added until after the 2.0 release.

Download from http://www.icecast.org/files/ices-2.0-Beta3.tar.gz

Please send all Bug reports to the icecast-dev mailing list.

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From si at darkness.nu  Sat Jan 10 02:11:49 2004
From: si at darkness.nu (John Farnsworth)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:11:49 -0600
Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0.0 on IRIX with Mipspro
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I have successfully built icecast 2.0.0 on IRIX 6.5.17 with the MIPSPRO
7.4.1 compiler set.

The following problems were encountered:

Errored with undefined __FUNCTION__, used the #ifdef win32 __FUNCTION__
define.

Errored with:

 cc-1028 cc: ERROR File = fserve.c, Line = 323
   The expression used must have a constant value.
       mime_type exttype = {ext, NULL};

at fserve.c line 323 changed from:

mime_type exttype = (ext, NULL);
void *result;

to:

mime_type exttype;
void *result;
exttype.ext = ext;
exttype.type = NULL;

For some reason configure did not add -logg to the link options, added
this manually.

Thought this info might be handy.
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From josephus at freemail.hu  Sat Jan 10 11:41:24 2004
From: josephus at freemail.hu (Josephus)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:41:24 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3
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omg, what about mp3 support? :) that would be really kinda neat :P

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Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3

<p>> This is to announce the release of ices 2.0 beta 3. The source client
> for streaming Ogg Vorbis to Icecast 2.
>
> After far too much time having passed since beta 2, where many fixes and
> updates have been applied, it's time to push for a full 2.0 release.
> This beta is really to flush out any remaining issues, so no new
> functionality is to be added until after the 2.0 release.
>
> Download from http://www.icecast.org/files/ices-2.0-Beta3.tar.gz
>
> Please send all Bug reports to the icecast-dev mailing list.
>
> karl.
>
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From boink at tetter.xs4all.nl  Sat Jan 10 12:22:05 2004
From: boink at tetter.xs4all.nl (boink)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:22:05 +0100
Subject: [icecast] compile error in the new icecast 2
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Message-ID: <20040110122205.GA16040@tetter.xs4all.nl>



"devs" ... you mean the rpm's? 

I didn't use the rpm's, I compiled everything myself. 

<p>I compiled for icecast 2:

libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz
libxslt-1.1.2.tar.gz
curl-7.10.8.tar.gz

b

On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 09:39:05PM +0000, ronnie escobedo wrote:
> you also need the dev's aswell
> 
> 
> >
> >hello!
> >
> >While trying to compile the new and final icecast2, I got this compile
> >error on the make:
> >
> >make[3]: *** [xslt.o] Error 1
> >make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> >make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0/src'
> >make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/boink/icecast-2.0.0'
> >make: *** [all] Error 2
> >
> >hmm, looks like a libxsl error. though, I installed the latest libs of
> >libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.4.tar.gz) before compiling.
> >
> >do I need something else?
> >
> >boink
> >
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> >
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From boink at tetter.xs4all.nl  Sat Jan 10 12:23:33 2004
From: boink at tetter.xs4all.nl (boink)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:23:33 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3
In-Reply-To: <001101c3d76e$adce03c0$b851c5d5@josephuushome>
Message-ID: <20040110122332.GB16040@tetter.xs4all.nl>



ices-0.2x has mp3 support. but not for live streaming. darkice works
quite well for live mp3 streaming, with icecast1 or icecast2.

b.

<p>On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Josephus wrote:
> omg, what about mp3 support? :) that would be really kinda neat :P
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karl Heyes" <karl at xiph.org>
> To: "icecast-dev" <icecast-dev at xiph.org>; "icecast" <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:02 AM
> Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3
> 
> 
> > This is to announce the release of ices 2.0 beta 3. The source client
> > for streaming Ogg Vorbis to Icecast 2.
> >
> > After far too much time having passed since beta 2, where many fixes and
> > updates have been applied, it's time to push for a full 2.0 release.
> > This beta is really to flush out any remaining issues, so no new
> > functionality is to be added until after the 2.0 release.
> >
> > Download from http://www.icecast.org/files/ices-2.0-Beta3.tar.gz
> >
> > Please send all Bug reports to the icecast-dev mailing list.
> >
> > karl.
> >
> >
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From gohai at gmx.net  Sat Jan 10 19:18:06 2004
From: gohai at gmx.net (Gottfried Haider)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:18:06 +0100
Subject: [icecast] streaming live mp3?
Message-ID: <017501c3d7ae$7d4151e0$a67a6e50@gottfried>



Hello,

Is there a chance that either ices0 will get support for live-streaming
from line-in or ices2 for streaming mp3?
I tried darkice, but this didn't work out with a decent sampling rate on
my box (see [1])...
Also tried liveice, but this does not seem to work at all with icecast2
(when changing the port to 8001 I got this simple UI but icecast2 didn't
notice any new mount).

I looked into the sources, doing it myself is a little bit
too...advanced for me but I would be glad to test any patches :P

cheers!
Gottfried Haider
PS: Please CC me as I am not on the list.
[1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6735073 and
f'ups

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From mike at linuxlink.com  Sat Jan 10 20:35:36 2004
From: mike at linuxlink.com (Michael H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:35:36 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Ices 2.0 beta3
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Message-ID: <40006218.8070102@linuxlink.com>



ROFLMAO

Josephus wrote:
> omg, what about mp3 support? :) that would be really kinda neat :P
> 
>

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Sat Jan 10 22:25:23 2004
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:23 +0100
Subject: [icecast] streaming live mp3?
In-Reply-To: <017501c3d7ae$7d4151e0$a67a6e50@gottfried>
Message-ID: <40007BD3.205@tyrell.hu>



Gottfried Haider wrote:
> Is there a chance that either ices0 will get support for live-streaming
> from line-in or ices2 for streaming mp3?
> I tried darkice, but this didn't work out with a decent sampling rate on
> my box (see [1])...

as stated there, the issue is that lame requires more CPU power than you 
have. no matter what application would call lame, it would still need 
the same CPU power...

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From gohai at gmx.net  Sun Jan 11 07:54:24 2004
From: gohai at gmx.net (Gottfried Haider)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:54:24 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Re: streaming live mp3?
Message-ID: <004e01c3d818$21caf630$a67a6e50@gottfried>



>> Is there a chance that either ices0 will get support for
live-streaming
>> from line-in or ices2 for streaming mp3?
>> I tried darkice, but this didn't work out with a decent sampling rate
on
>> my box (see [1])...
> as stated there, the issue is that lame requires more CPU power than
you
> have. no matter what application would call lame, it would still need
> the same CPU power...
but encoding a 1-minute wav file to mp3 (44.1 kHz, 128 kbps stereo, lame
quality 7) with the command line lame encoder takes just 24 seconds
(>95% cpu utilization, skips when trying with darkice), is the rest
really darkice overhead?

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From djmoguta at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 13 03:25:58 2004
From: djmoguta at hotmail.com (Christopher G)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:25:58 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
Message-ID: <BAY1-F144pAsKg7pCII00015dd8@hotmail.com>



I recently reformatted & reinstalled Windows98.  Oddly, only now after a 
fresh re-install has Oddcast been behaving badly with WinAmp 5.01.

It shows up in the DSP catagory as a mirror of the previous plugin, plus 
"[dsp_oddcast_v2.dll]".  I know Oddcast isn't configurable by the WinAmp 
Configure Plugin button, but it shouldn't give this message when I try:
http://www.geocities.com/dj_moguta/oddcast_error.png (Geocities being 
Geocities, you must copy/paste that into your URL bar, or Save Target As)

I have tried uninstalling Oddcast (and deleting all leftover files) and then 
reinstalling Oddcast a few times, but each time the result is exactly the 
same.  What's going wrong?

It worked perfectly with WinAmp 5 before the reformat.  ;_;

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From lonnie at lonniewebb.com  Tue Jan 13 06:13:36 2004
From: lonnie at lonniewebb.com (lonnie at lonniewebb.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:13:36 -0800
Subject: [icecast] Icecast makes dumpfile but no stream
Message-ID: <lonnie_webb-0ECXfAA0lcWIU1FC72OpfuP6gmC7RcD@mailblocks.com>



I expect you have deal with my newbie problem before.  Please help me 
find where you have (hopefully) stashed the answer!

I have darkice and icecast 2 running nicely on a redhat 9 machine.  I 
can connect to my admin page and stats just fine. Icecast creates a 
playable dump file but when I connect using xmms (as I do with other 
icecast servers) I do not get music.

What do I do next??

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From karl at xiph.org  Tue Jan 13 21:24:52 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 13 Jan 2004 21:24:52 +0000
Subject: [icecast] ices 2.0 beta 4
Message-ID: <1074029089.31030.48.camel@bogus.hackers.club>



This is to announce the release of ices 2.0 beta 4. The source client
for stream Ogg Vorbis to Icecast 2.

Several people reported the ALSA input module was breaking the build.
This should fix the API issues raised, I've tested it here with ALSA
v1.0.1, but more testing would be appreciated.

Changes

. ALSA driver fixup.
. Small build changes 
. Skip Ogg Vorbis files where a serial number would not change
  between logical streams, very rare but would cause corrupted
  playback on many players.
 
Download from http://www.icecast.org/files/ices-2.0-Beta4.tar.gz

Please send all Bug reports to the icecast-dev mailing list.

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From forum-gateway at xiph.org  Tue Jan 13 22:10:57 2004
From: forum-gateway at xiph.org (forum-gateway at xiph.org)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:10:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F144pAsKg7pCII00015dd8@hotmail.com>
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>It shows up in the DSP catagory as a mirror of the previous plugin, plus
>\"[dsp_oddcast_v2.dll]\".  I know Oddcast isn\'t configurable by the WinAmp
>Configure Plugin button, but it shouldn\'t give this message when I try:
>http://www.geocities.com/dj_moguta/oddcast_error.png (Geocities being
>Geocities, you must copy/paste that into your URL bar, or Save Target As)
>
>I have tried uninstalling Oddcast (and deleting all leftover files) and then
>reinstalling Oddcast a few times, but each time the result is exactly the
>same.  What\'s going wrong?
>
>It worked perfectly with WinAmp 5 before the reformat.  ;_;
>
I\'d suggest trying to uninstall, make sure to delete the Winamp directory, and reinstall Winamp 5 and then reinstall oddcast using the installer....that should clear things up..

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From djmoguta at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 01:34:22 2004
From: djmoguta at hotmail.com (Christopher G)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:34:22 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01>
Message-ID: <BAY1-F8OEWSWJg14ZxS0006181c@hotmail.com>



> >It shows up in the DSP catagory as a mirror of the previous plugin, plus
> >\"[dsp_oddcast_v2.dll]\".  I know Oddcast isn\'t configurable by the 
>WinAmp
> >Configure Plugin button, but it shouldn\'t give this message when I try:
> >http://www.geocities.com/dj_moguta/oddcast_error.png (Geocities being
> >Geocities, you must copy/paste that into your URL bar, or Save Target As)
> >
> >I have tried uninstalling Oddcast (and deleting all leftover files) and 
>then
> >reinstalling Oddcast a few times, but each time the result is exactly the
> >same.  What\'s going wrong?
> >
> >It worked perfectly with WinAmp 5 before the reformat.  ;_;
> >
>I\'d suggest trying to uninstall, make sure to delete the Winamp directory, 
>and reinstall Winamp 5 and then reinstall oddcast using the 
>installer....that should clear things up..
>
>oddsock

No such luck.  I uninstalled WinAmp & deleted the \Program Files\WinAmp 
directory, re-downloaded the WinAmp 5.01 installer & the Oddcast 2.0.10 
installer, and did fresh installs of both from the newly downloaded 
installers. No installation options or preferences were changed from the 
default in either program.  Problem as last stated still occurs.

Oddcast is the only WinAmp plugin I've tried that gives me problems.

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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Wed Jan 14 02:36:35 2004
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:36:35 +1300
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F8OEWSWJg14ZxS0006181c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <003401c3da47$3aeab7a0$7700a8c0@levis3>



I've seen this problem before several months ago with Winamp 2 and reported
on it at the time, though I may have put it in different words.  I believe
it only occured under Win98.  I'm using XP now and I haven't seen the same
problem since.

It was very bizzare.  I tried everything including removing all DSP plugins
except Oddcast but Winamp still insisted that Oddcast was infact some other
plugin that I had deleted, and the Oddcast box would not display.  I
couldn't work out where the name of the other plugin was coming from.  I
searched the registry and couldn't find it anywhere.

I think it came right all by itself eventually after installing & removing
DSP plugins.

Ross Levis
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From: "Christopher G" <djmoguta at hotmail.com>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01

<p>> > >It shows up in the DSP catagory as a mirror of the previous plugin,
plus
> > >\"[dsp_oddcast_v2.dll]\".  I know Oddcast isn\'t configurable by the
> >WinAmp
> > >Configure Plugin button, but it shouldn\'t give this message when I
try:
> > >http://www.geocities.com/dj_moguta/oddcast_error.png (Geocities being
> > >Geocities, you must copy/paste that into your URL bar, or Save Target
As)
> > >
> > >I have tried uninstalling Oddcast (and deleting all leftover files) and
> >then
> > >reinstalling Oddcast a few times, but each time the result is exactly
the
> > >same.  What\'s going wrong?
> > >
> > >It worked perfectly with WinAmp 5 before the reformat.  ;_;
> > >
> >I\'d suggest trying to uninstall, make sure to delete the Winamp
directory,
> >and reinstall Winamp 5 and then reinstall oddcast using the
> >installer....that should clear things up..
> >
> >oddsock
>
> No such luck.  I uninstalled WinAmp & deleted the \Program Files\WinAmp
> directory, re-downloaded the WinAmp 5.01 installer & the Oddcast 2.0.10
> installer, and did fresh installs of both from the newly downloaded
> installers. No installation options or preferences were changed from the
> default in either program.  Problem as last stated still occurs.
>
> Oddcast is the only WinAmp plugin I've tried that gives me problems.
>
> - Chris

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From djmoguta at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 14 13:43:18 2004
From: djmoguta at hotmail.com (Christopher G)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:43:18 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01>
Message-ID: <BAY1-F46XnbnCndg5oQ00015e00@hotmail.com>



>I've seen this problem before several months ago with Winamp 2 and reported
>on it at the time, though I may have put it in different words.  I believe
>it only occured under Win98.  I'm using XP now and I haven't seen the same
>problem since.
>
>It was very bizzare.  I tried everything including removing all DSP plugins
>except Oddcast but Winamp still insisted that Oddcast was infact some other
>plugin that I had deleted, and the Oddcast box would not display.  I
>couldn't work out where the name of the other plugin was coming from.  I
>searched the registry and couldn't find it anywhere.
>
>I think it came right all by itself eventually after installing & removing
>DSP plugins.
>
>Ross Levis
>http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com
>http://www.stationplaylist.com

This is indeed the same problem.  However I've installed & removed the DSPs, 
and all of WinAmp, several times.  =(

Darn Dell Inspiron 7000 isn't compatible with WinXP, so I have to stay with 
98.

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 21:59:47 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:59:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
Message-ID: <20040114215947.74694.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com>



greetings!

when i try to start icecast, i get the following:

Changed groupid to 501.
Changed userid to 501.

and then it just hangs there...
i ctrl-z and then attempt to start icecast again, and
i get the following:

Could not create listener socket on port 8000
Server startup failed.  Exiting

netstat -anp | grep :8000 shows the following:

tcp   0  0 192.168.1.99:8000   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
4244/

o, it looks like "something" is starting.

the error.log gives:

INFO main/main icecast server started
INFO sighandler/_sig_die Caught signal 15, shutting
down...
INFO main/main Shutting down

o, i guess my question is what is icecast attempting
to do after the id's are changed?  can anybody list
what is seen on there screen when icecast is started?
(this is on red hat 9)

thanks!

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From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 14 22:14:22 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 14 Jan 2004 22:14:22 +0000
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
In-Reply-To: <20040114215947.74694.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1074118461.25029.123.camel@bogus.hackers.club>



On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 21:59, jensen galan wrote:
> greetings!
> 
> when i try to start icecast, i get the following:
> 
> Changed groupid to 501.
> Changed userid to 501.
> 
> and then it just hangs there...
> i ctrl-z and then attempt to start icecast again, and
> i get the following:
> 
> Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> Server startup failed.  Exiting
> 
> netstat -anp | grep :8000 shows the following:
> 
> tcp   0  0 192.168.1.99:8000   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
> 4244/
> 
> so, it looks like "something" is starting.

the ctrl-Z only stops the job, it does not terminate it. The initial
icecast process will still own port 8000. starting a second will fail.

> so, i guess my question is what is icecast attempting
> to do after the id's are changed?  can anybody list
> what is seen on there screen when icecast is started?
> (this is on red hat 9)

It's waiting. It's a server, it's meant to wait. It takes requests from
connecting clients and handles them.  Sending a STOP signal (crtl-Z)
will limit it's ability to function though.

As for anything on screen, there shouldn't be really. Log messages to
file as it looks like you are and start sending streams to icecast so
that listeners can listen to something.

karl.

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 22:48:51 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:48:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
In-Reply-To: <1074118461.25029.123.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <20040114224851.56880.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com>



thanks for the reply.

the problem is after i start icecast with icecast -c
/path to icecast.xml, i see the following:

Changed groupid to 501.
Changed userid to 501.

and then it just hangs.  i do not get a command prompt
or anything.  so i was wondering if there are any
other messages that normally follow during the startup
process.

<p>--- Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 21:59, jensen galan wrote:
> > greetings!
> > 
> > when i try to start icecast, i get the following:
> > 
> > Changed groupid to 501.
> > Changed userid to 501.
> > 
> > and then it just hangs there...
> > i ctrl-z and then attempt to start icecast again,
> and
> > i get the following:
> > 
> > Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> > Server startup failed.  Exiting
> > 
> > netstat -anp | grep :8000 shows the following:
> > 
> > tcp   0  0 192.168.1.99:8000   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN 
> 
> > 4244/
> > 
> > so, it looks like "something" is starting.
> 
> the ctrl-Z only stops the job, it does not terminate
> it. The initial
> icecast process will still own port 8000. starting a
> second will fail.
> 
> > so, i guess my question is what is icecast
> attempting
> > to do after the id's are changed?  can anybody
> list
> > what is seen on there screen when icecast is
> started?
> > (this is on red hat 9)
> 
> It's waiting. It's a server, it's meant to wait. It
> takes requests from
> connecting clients and handles them.  Sending a STOP
> signal (crtl-Z)
> will limit it's ability to function though.
> 
> As for anything on screen, there shouldn't be
> really. Log messages to
> file as it looks like you are and start sending
> streams to icecast so
> that listeners can listen to something.
> 
> karl.
> 
> 
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From stauf at freshcheese.net  Wed Jan 14 22:44:49 2004
From: stauf at freshcheese.net (Mr. Stauf)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:44:49 -0700
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
In-Reply-To: <20040114224851.56880.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040114224449.GB14005@freshcheese.net>



I would add & at the end of the command
like icecast -c /pather/to/xml &
that will make it run in the background
--stauf
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 02:48:51PM -0800, jensen galan wrote:
> thanks for the reply.
> 
> the problem is after i start icecast with icecast -c
> /path to icecast.xml, i see the following:
> 
> Changed groupid to 501.
> Changed userid to 501.
> 
> and then it just hangs.  i do not get a command prompt
> or anything.  so i was wondering if there are any
> other messages that normally follow during the startup
> process.
> 
> 
> --- Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 21:59, jensen galan wrote:
> > > greetings!
> > > 
> > > when i try to start icecast, i get the following:
> > > 
> > > Changed groupid to 501.
> > > Changed userid to 501.
> > > 
> > > and then it just hangs there...
> > > i ctrl-z and then attempt to start icecast again,
> > and
> > > i get the following:
> > > 
> > > Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> > > Server startup failed.  Exiting
> > > 
> > > netstat -anp | grep :8000 shows the following:
> > > 
> > > tcp   0  0 192.168.1.99:8000   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN 
> > 
> > > 4244/
> > > 
> > > so, it looks like "something" is starting.
> > 
> > the ctrl-Z only stops the job, it does not terminate
> > it. The initial
> > icecast process will still own port 8000. starting a
> > second will fail.
> > 
> > > so, i guess my question is what is icecast
> > attempting
> > > to do after the id's are changed?  can anybody
> > list
> > > what is seen on there screen when icecast is
> > started?
> > > (this is on red hat 9)
> > 
> > It's waiting. It's a server, it's meant to wait. It
> > takes requests from
> > connecting clients and handles them.  Sending a STOP
> > signal (crtl-Z)
> > will limit it's ability to function though.
> > 
> > As for anything on screen, there shouldn't be
> > really. Log messages to
> > file as it looks like you are and start sending
> > streams to icecast so
> > that listeners can listen to something.
> > 
> > karl.
> > 
> > 
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From rojo at nocrew.org  Wed Jan 14 23:12:19 2004
From: rojo at nocrew.org (Rolf Johansson)
Date: 15 Jan 2004 00:12:19 +0100
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
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Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> writes:

> As for anything on screen, there shouldn't be really. Log messages to
> file as it looks like you are and start sending streams to icecast so
> that listeners can listen to something.

Maybe it's in an archive somewhere, but anyway: 
why is the admin console removed in icecast2?

/Rolf
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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 14 23:26:20 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:26:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
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thanks again.
icecast is now running in the background.
please excuse my newbiness.

jg

--- "Mr. Stauf" <stauf at freshcheese.net> wrote:
> I would add & at the end of the command
> like icecast -c /pather/to/xml &
> that will make it run in the background
> --stauf
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 02:48:51PM -0800, jensen
> galan wrote:
> > thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > the problem is after i start icecast with icecast
> -c
> > /path to icecast.xml, i see the following:
> > 
> > Changed groupid to 501.
> > Changed userid to 501.
> > 
> > and then it just hangs.  i do not get a command
> prompt
> > or anything.  so i was wondering if there are any
> > other messages that normally follow during the
> startup
> > process.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Karl Heyes <karl at xiph.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 21:59, jensen galan wrote:
> > > > greetings!
> > > > 
> > > > when i try to start icecast, i get the
> following:
> > > > 
> > > > Changed groupid to 501.
> > > > Changed userid to 501.
> > > > 
> > > > and then it just hangs there...
> > > > i ctrl-z and then attempt to start icecast
> again,
> > > and
> > > > i get the following:
> > > > 
> > > > Could not create listener socket on port 8000
> > > > Server startup failed.  Exiting
> > > > 
> > > > netstat -anp | grep :8000 shows the following:
> > > > 
> > > > tcp   0  0 192.168.1.99:8000   0.0.0.0:*  
> LISTEN 
> > > 
> > > > 4244/
> > > > 
> > > > so, it looks like "something" is starting.
> > > 
> > > the ctrl-Z only stops the job, it does not
> terminate
> > > it. The initial
> > > icecast process will still own port 8000.
> starting a
> > > second will fail.
> > > 
> > > > so, i guess my question is what is icecast
> > > attempting
> > > > to do after the id's are changed?  can anybody
> > > list
> > > > what is seen on there screen when icecast is
> > > started?
> > > > (this is on red hat 9)
> > > 
> > > It's waiting. It's a server, it's meant to wait.
> It
> > > takes requests from
> > > connecting clients and handles them.  Sending a
> STOP
> > > signal (crtl-Z)
> > > will limit it's ability to function though.
> > > 
> > > As for anything on screen, there shouldn't be
> > > really. Log messages to
> > > file as it looks like you are and start sending
> > > streams to icecast so
> > > that listeners can listen to something.
> > > 
> > > karl.
> > > 
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From forum-gateway at xiph.org  Wed Jan 14 23:35:16 2004
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:35:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
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>Maybe it's in an archive somewhere, but anyway:
>why is the admin console removed in icecast2?
>
>/Rolf
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it wasn't removed really, since icecast 2 was a complete rewrite of icecast 1.x.  It was just "not implemented"...We chose to go with a web-based interface instead...

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From si at darkness.nu  Thu Jan 15 22:10:27 2004
From: si at darkness.nu (John Farnsworth)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:10:27 -0600
Subject: [icecast] icecast hangs at start
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Which given the move away from a command line console from the process, I
never did quite figure out why -b was not a default option.

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>
> >Maybe it's in an archive somewhere, but anyway:
> >why is the admin console removed in icecast2?
> >
> >/Rolf
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From rhygin at ragga-jungle.com  Thu Jan 15 22:35:03 2004
From: rhygin at ragga-jungle.com (Rhygin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:35:03 -0500
Subject: [icecast] icecast & HUP
Message-ID: <1074206103.15078.480.camel@localhost>



I have this strange problem where when I try to reload my config by
sending a HUP to the icecast process it produces this in the error.log
file:

[2004-01-15  21:06:07] INFO connection/connection_accept_loop Scheduling config reread ...
[2004-01-15  21:06:07] EROR event/event_config_read Error parsing config, not replacing existing config
[2004-01-15  21:06:07] EROR event/event_config_read Parse error in reading /usr/local/icecast/etc/icecast.xml

However the server starts up and works as expected...

Any ides?


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From webby at seneca-rez.net  Fri Jan 16 10:45:09 2004
From: webby at seneca-rez.net (Jason L)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:45:09 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Comments and Praise
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I love Icecast, as soon as I seen there was a windows version I dropped shoutcast.

I'm part of a large group of people who broadcast police scanners from all over North America  and it's mostly done using the winamp/shoutcast combo.  I've told everyone I know (some big yahoo groups) about icecast and they all love it because there is no huge delay like there is with shoutcast.

I use Simplecast to capture and send to the server and it works like a charm with icecast.

<p>Thanks a Million

PS. Is there any php scripts for interaction with icecast2?

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From jas3 at bean-net.net  Fri Jan 16 16:39:15 2004
From: jas3 at bean-net.net (John Simkiss)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:39:15 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Comments and Praise
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Hi Jason:

Can you let me know which groups have scanner info on them?  We might be interested in sponsoring them, or at least joining them.

Thanks,

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<p>  I love Icecast, as soon as I seen there was a windows version I dropped shoutcast.

  I'm part of a large group of people who broadcast police scanners from all over North America  and it's mostly done using the winamp/shoutcast combo.  I've told everyone I know (some big yahoo groups) about icecast and they all love it because there is no huge delay like there is with shoutcast.

  I use Simplecast to capture and send to the server and it works like a charm with icecast.

<p>  Thanks a Million

  PS. Is there any php scripts for interaction with icecast2?

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From ianux at free.fr  Fri Jan 16 20:21:39 2004
From: ianux at free.fr (ianux)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:21:39 +0100
Subject: [icecast] streaming through a firewall
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I'm running the latest versions of icecast and ices on my linux
box behind a NATed network routed by another linux box with iptables.
The stream is available on the local network (i.e http://192.168.0.20:8000/example.ogg)
tested with winamp 5.
but the stream is not available on the net (i.e with the public IP)
I haved forwarded port 8000 on the router with the same lines I did for
eMule, FTP, Bittorrent, ssh, and all that work fine :
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 82.66.x.x --dport 8000
-j DNAT --to 192.168.0.20
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.0.20 --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
what can I do more to make it work ?
is it a problem of icecast or ices config ?

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From karl at xiph.org  Fri Jan 16 20:52:10 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 16 Jan 2004 20:52:10 +0000
Subject: [icecast] streaming through a firewall
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On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 20:21, ianux wrote:
> I'm running the latest versions of icecast and ices on my linux
> box behind a NATed network routed by another linux box with iptables.
> The stream is available on the local network (i.e http://192.168.0.20:8000/example.ogg)
> tested with winamp 5.
> but the stream is not available on the net (i.e with the public IP)
> I haved forwarded port 8000 on the router with the same lines I did for
> eMule, FTP, Bittorrent, ssh, and all that work fine :
> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 82.66.x.x --dport 8000
> -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.20
> iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.0.20 --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
> what can I do more to make it work ?
> is it a problem of icecast or ices config ?

if ices is connected to icecast and can be played over the local network
then it won't be an ices issue.  Check to see if connections are logged,
if not then you'll have to do some checking on the packets going to
icecast and going back to the listener.

karl.

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From djmoguta at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 16 23:06:08 2004
From: djmoguta at hotmail.com (Christopher G)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:06:08 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
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Does Oddcast have any Windows98 dependancies that I might be missing after 
doing a reformat?
Can't think of what else might be wrong...  =(

- Chris

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>To: icecast at xiph.org
>Subject: Re: [icecast] Oddcast not working with WinAmp 5.01
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:43:18 -0500
>
>>I've seen this problem before several months ago with Winamp 2 and 
>>reported
>>on it at the time, though I may have put it in different words.  I believe
>>it only occured under Win98.  I'm using XP now and I haven't seen the same
>>problem since.
>>
>>It was very bizzare.  I tried everything including removing all DSP 
>>plugins
>>except Oddcast but Winamp still insisted that Oddcast was infact some 
>>other
>>plugin that I had deleted, and the Oddcast box would not display.  I
>>couldn't work out where the name of the other plugin was coming from.  I
>>searched the registry and couldn't find it anywhere.
>>
>>I think it came right all by itself eventually after installing & removing
>>DSP plugins.
>>
>>Ross Levis
>>http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com
>>http://www.stationplaylist.com
>
>This is indeed the same problem.  However I've installed & removed the 
>DSPs, and all of WinAmp, several times.  =(
>
>Darn Dell Inspiron 7000 isn't compatible with WinXP, so I have to stay with 
>98.
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From Murray.Saul at senecac.on.ca  Sat Jan 17 02:25:26 2004
From: Murray.Saul at senecac.on.ca (Murray Saul)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:25:26 -0500
Subject: [icecast] RE: Problems Listening in WinAmp 2.x, 5.x
Message-ID: <40089D16.3010408@senecac.on.ca>



I have set up icecast2 and ices2 and am playing ogg files from a playlist.
I can listen to stream in Linux using XMMS and Windows using FOOBAR2000.
The documentation indicates that WinAmp 2.x and 5.x will work, but need 
to do tricks like
use mountname with ".ogg" extension. When I do that in WinAmp 2.x and 
5.x tries to connect and nothing.

When in Admin in icecast, and view stats to up link (i.e. .ogg.m3u) 
WinAmp 2.x gives 200 OK message then prebuffers  and appears to play, 
but no sound. I have checked versions that have vorbis plugin, and 
accept ogg extensions, but so-far, I haven't gotten WinAmp to work (and 
tried on a number of windows machines) - Any ideas or suggestions?

Regards,
Murray Saul

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From matt at sv.net.au  Sun Jan 18 09:50:38 2004
From: matt at sv.net.au (Matt Trim)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:50:38 +1000
Subject: [icecast] &quot;Could not parse XSLT file&quot;
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When trying to access the /admin/ area in Icecast2

Error in error.log is:

[2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request Got command ()
[2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG admin/command_stats Stats request, sending xml
stats
[2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG admin/admin_send_response Sending XSLT
(/usr/share/iceast/admin/stats.xsl)
[2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG xslt/xslt_get_stylesheet Error checking for
stylesheet file: No such file or directory

Any ideas?

I'm using the Redhat 9.0 binary RPM.

Cheers,

Matt

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From rojo at nocrew.org  Sun Jan 18 15:01:28 2004
From: rojo at nocrew.org (Rolf Johansson)
Date: 18 Jan 2004 16:01:28 +0100
Subject: [icecast] &quot;Could not parse XSLT file&quot;
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"Matt Trim" <matt at sv.net.au> writes:

> [2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG admin/admin_send_response Sending XSLT
> (/usr/share/iceast/admin/stats.xsl)
              ^^^^^^
              ?

> Any ideas?

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From matt at sv.net.au  Sun Jan 18 15:33:47 2004
From: matt at sv.net.au (Matt Trim)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:33:47 +1000
Subject: [icecast] &quot;Could not parse XSLT file&quot;
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whoops.. "wipes egg from face"

I guess I have well and truly made the ultimate typo there.. 

Thanks Rolf, I should probably get more sleep before posting next time! :)

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<p>> "Matt Trim" <matt at sv.net.au> writes:
> 
> > [2004-01-18  19:47:06] DBUG admin/admin_send_response Sending XSLT
> > (/usr/share/iceast/admin/stats.xsl)
>               ^^^^^^
>               ?
> 
> > Any ideas?
> 
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From macsym69 at yahoo.fr  Tue Jan 20 03:01:39 2004
From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (MacSym)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:01:39 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Winamp/Oddcast Silent output
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Hi everybody,

I have an easy question here. Is there any silent output option for
Winamp/Oddcast? I have a computer that I use as an encoder but it has no
soundcard installed so I am using SAM2 because there is a "Silent output"
option in the audio mixer pipeline. It means the sound encoded never passes
through the soundcard because everything is managed by the software.

I prefer free software so I would like to use winamp/oddcast but I didn't
find a silent output plugin. Does anybody know if it is possible?

Thanks in advance for any help!

MAX 

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From oliver at ojms.org.uk  Tue Jan 20 03:11:48 2004
From: oliver at ojms.org.uk (Oliver Stirling)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:11:48 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Winamp/Oddcast Silent output
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MacSym wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>I have an easy question here. Is there any silent output option for
>Winamp/Oddcast? I have a computer that I use as an encoder but it has no
>soundcard installed so I am using SAM2 because there is a "Silent output"
>option in the audio mixer pipeline. It means the sound encoded never passes
>through the soundcard because everything is managed by the software.
>
>I prefer free software so I would like to use winamp/oddcast but I didn't
>find a silent output plugin. Does anybody know if it is possible?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help!
>
>MAX 
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look for out_null.dll

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From macsym69 at yahoo.fr  Tue Jan 20 03:19:59 2004
From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (MacSym)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:19:59 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Winamp/Oddcast Silent output
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Hi Oli,

Thank you for your VERY QUICK answer! I just installed it and it works
perfectly :-)

Thanks again,

MAX

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MacSym wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>I have an easy question here. Is there any silent output option for
>Winamp/Oddcast? I have a computer that I use as an encoder but it has no
>soundcard installed so I am using SAM2 because there is a "Silent output"
>option in the audio mixer pipeline. It means the sound encoded never passes
>through the soundcard because everything is managed by the software.
>
>I prefer free software so I would like to use winamp/oddcast but I didn't
>find a silent output plugin. Does anybody know if it is possible?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help!
>
>MAX 
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From lowman at uiuc.edu  Tue Jan 20 04:17:45 2004
From: lowman at uiuc.edu (Philip D. Lowman)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:17:45 -0600
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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It says here there hasn't been much interest in handling mp3 with ices2:
http://www.icecast.org/files/ices_docs/faq.html

I just wanted to mention that I'm interested in doing so.  I use ices 
for a web-based jukebox project called Tunez.  I have tried the other 
suggested icecast streamers and have had major problems with both of 
them (muse and liveice).  It would be really cool if the ices developers 
merged MP3 playback support back into the new stream of Ices that way 
MP3's and OGG's could be part of the same stream.  As it is now it would 
be a major hack to support both formats (which leads me to aim towards 
supporting the old ices 0.3 code which works with MP3).

Ogg vorbis support is great and all but I with the Icecast people would 
realize how many people still use MP3, especially in a streaming 
environment.  I'm glad Icecast 2.0 supports both and I'm hoping that the 
Ices team decides to support both as well.

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From msmith at xiph.org  Tue Jan 20 05:10:41 2004
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:10:41 +1100
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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On Tuesday 20 January 2004 15:17, Philip D. Lowman wrote:
> It says here there hasn't been much interest in handling mp3 with ices2:
> http://www.icecast.org/files/ices_docs/faq.html
>
> I just wanted to mention that I'm interested in doing so.  I use ices
> for a web-based jukebox project called Tunez.  I have tried the other
> suggested icecast streamers and have had major problems with both of
> them (muse and liveice).  It would be really cool if the ices developers

ices 0.3 remains a recommended source client if you need mp3 support.

> merged MP3 playback support back into the new stream of Ices that way
> MP3's and OGG's could be part of the same stream.  As it is now it would
> be a major hack to support both formats (which leads me to aim towards
> supporting the old ices 0.3 code which works with MP3).

Mixed format support isn't possible. Mixed format in the _source_ files would, 
of course, be possible - the source client would have to transcode them all 
to the same format.

ices2 is unlikely to ever support mp3 - one day, it might _optionally_ support 
reading mp3, but streaming as ogg (transcoding, obviously), but even that 
isn't particularly likely unless someone else decides to implement it.

ices 0.3 works fine - just use it!

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From gshang at pacific.net.au  Tue Jan 20 13:42:42 2004
From: gshang at pacific.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:42:42 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Philip D. Lowman wrote:

> It says here there hasn't been much interest in handling mp3 with ices2:
> http://www.icecast.org/files/ices_docs/faq.html

The way I understand it, this means there's not much developer interest.
So unless someone is prepared to write the code, you can probably forget
it.

Note that you could probably achieve the same by using the stdinpcm module
and a third-party decoder.  In some ways this is better because ices2
developers would otherwise have to worry about the whole issue of licensing
an MP3 decoder.

Geoff.

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From josephus at freemail.hu  Tue Jan 20 18:37:49 2004
From: josephus at freemail.hu (Josephus)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:37:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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Yeah :P the same wish here. My vote-based radio uses ices0.3 just 
because the lack of mp3 support of the new ices. So inform us of any 
decision or progress has been made.

Thx very much

An mp3 fan :P

> I just wanted to mention that I'm interested in doing so.  I use ices 
> for a web-based jukebox project called Tunez.  I have tried the other 
> suggested icecast streamers and have had major problems with both 
of 
> them (muse and liveice).  

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From adon at yorku.ca  Tue Jan 20 18:57:34 2004
From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:57:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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don't forget about streamTranscoder . it works well ., i actually have all
ogg archives , and when one is played , i have scripts to auto-transcode
an mp3 compatible stream for those who are not in the know .

(http://theDV8network.com for examples )
and http://transcoder.sourceforge.net for a link to the transcoder site (
i think )

a.

<p><p>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Josephus wrote:

> Yeah :P the same wish here. My vote-based radio uses ices0.3 just
> because the lack of mp3 support of the new ices. So inform us of any
> decision or progress has been made.
>
> Thx very much
>
> An mp3 fan :P
>
> > I just wanted to mention that I'm interested in doing so.  I use ices
> > for a web-based jukebox project called Tunez.  I have tried the other
> > suggested icecast streamers and have had major problems with both
> of
> > them (muse and liveice).
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Tue Jan 20 19:24:25 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:24:25 -0600
Subject: [icecast] suggestion: add mp3 support to ices2
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At 12:57 PM 1/20/2004, you wrote:

>don't forget about streamTranscoder . it works well ., i actually have all
>ogg archives , and when one is played , i have scripts to auto-transcode
>an mp3 compatible stream for those who are not in the know .
>
>(http://theDV8network.com for examples )
>and http://transcoder.sourceforge.net for a link to the transcoder site (
>i think )
>
>a.
for the record, http://www.oddsock.org/tools/streamTranscoder is the 
correct URL, and it's funny that you mention this since I just finished 
distributing version 1.2.0 of this utility.  I've converted it all to a 
single command line utility (no more messy wxWindows stuff) and have a 
binary for win32 as well as a source distribution for unix 
users..  Feedback on the usefullness and stability of this utility is 
definately welcome... :)

oddsock 

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From kevin at kevindegraaf.net  Tue Jan 20 20:30:56 2004
From: kevin at kevindegraaf.net (Kevin DeGraaf)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:30:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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Does Icecast support bandwidth negotiation like Real's server?  If so, how
would one configure this (can't find it in the docs or list archives).

If not, is there any interest in adding this capability?


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From oliver at ojms.org.uk  Tue Jan 20 20:59:09 2004
From: oliver at ojms.org.uk (Oliver Stirling)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:59:09 +0000
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

>Does Icecast support bandwidth negotiation like Real's server?  If so, how
>would one configure this (can't find it in the docs or list archives).
>
>If not, is there any interest in adding this capability?
>
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I'm not sure what this bandwidth negotiation is, is it the same as 
limiting the number of listeners?

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From giles at xiph.org  Wed Jan 21 00:33:54 2004
From: giles at xiph.org (Ralph Giles)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:33:54 -0800
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:30:56PM -0500, Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

> Does Icecast support bandwidth negotiation like Real's server?  If so, how
> would one configure this (can't find it in the docs or list archives).

No.

> If not, is there any interest in adding this capability?

Well, it makes more sense with rtp, maybe. I understand real does this by auto-switching between 
several pre-encoded streams of the same content at different bitrates. I can imagine hacking 
that in with vorbis, but the hard part with http streaming figuring out when you need to throttle. 

The player knows of course, so maybe it could handle switching between alternatives?

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From kevin at kevindegraaf.net  Wed Jan 21 00:36:54 2004
From: kevin at kevindegraaf.net (Kevin DeGraaf)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:36:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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> I'm not sure what this bandwidth negotiation is, is it the same as
> limiting the number of listeners?

Apologies, I should not have assumed that everyone knew what the term
meant.

This phrase, as used by RealNetworks, refers to the ability of their
server to determine the usable bandwidth between itself and a client and
to then select from a number of different bitrates (of the same audio
signal) automatically, optimizing the delivery quality while saving the
user the hassle of having to choose from a number of streams at different
bitrates.

No big deal -- I was asked if this could be done, and it's not a critical
issue at all, just a curiosity.


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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Wed Jan 21 07:10:38 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:10:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] question about documentation for the new beta 4 of ice cast
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I have been reading the README for icecast beta 4 and I came acrossed a
line that isn''t very explicit can some one explain to me what needs to
happen here?

You WILL need to edit the config file you choose to use before running
this application.  When documentation is revised tthis may be a good thing
to be a little more explicit on.
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From macsym69 at yahoo.fr  Wed Jan 21 10:27:58 2004
From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (MacSym)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:27:58 +0100
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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I think Kevin is talking about SURESTREAM. This technology detects the
user's bandwidth and adapts the stream's bitrate in consequence. Am I right
Kevin? I don't think it's available on Icecast. Surestream with Real is only
available with a complete Real configuration: Helix encoder, Helix server,
Real player and Real stream format. In Icecast case, more than one encoder
and player are available. Also, I don't know how it works exactly but I
think it's only available with a "pull" streaming configuration, which is
not available with Icecast compatible encoders (I might be wrong).

Another great feature of Helix, not available on Icecast, is "multicast"
streaming, but there is not a huge interest now, because only few providers
are equipped with multicast routers for the moment.

Anyway, I think the sound's quality is better on Icecast, and last but not
least, Icecast is FREE and OPEN SOURCE!

Cheers,

MAX

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Kevin DeGraaf wrote:

>Does Icecast support bandwidth negotiation like Real's server?  If so, how
>would one configure this (can't find it in the docs or list archives).
>
>If not, is there any interest in adding this capability?
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I'm not sure what this bandwidth negotiation is, is it the same as 
limiting the number of listeners?

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From jigen at autistici.org  Wed Jan 21 11:50:28 2004
From: jigen at autistici.org (jigen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:50:28 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
Message-ID: <1074685827.319.36.camel@skunky.metalabs.org>



Hi everyone,
        I would like to update metadata by using this request:
http://server:port/admin/metadata?mount=/foo.ogg&action=updinfo&song=New+Metadata,
        but when I send the request, icecast returns an error:
        "Missing parameter" and metadata doesn't change.
        
        This is error.log:
        
        [2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request 
                                        Got command (metadata)
        [2004-01-21  12:20:32] INFO admin/admin_handle_request 
                Received admin command metadata on mount "/foo.ogg"
        [2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/command_metadata 
                                Got metadata update request
        
        and access.log:
        xxx.yyy.zzz.??? - - [21/Jan/2004:12:20:32 +0100] "GET 	/admin/metadata
HTTP/1.1" 404 82 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 	i686; en-US; rv:1.5)
Gecko/20031225 Firebird/0.7" 0

        All the others requests work fine.
        
        I'm using icecast-2.0.0 and ices-2.0-Beta4 as source

        Any ideas?

        tnx, 
                jigen

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From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 21 12:50:31 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 21 Jan 2004 12:50:31 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
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On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:50, jigen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 	I would like to update metadata by using this request:
> http://server:port/admin/metadata?mount=/foo.ogg&action=updinfo&song=New+Metadata,
> 	but when I send the request, icecast returns an error:
> 	"Missing parameter" and metadata doesn't change.
> 	
> 	This is error.log:
> 	
> 	[2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request 
> 					Got command (metadata)
> 	[2004-01-21  12:20:32] INFO admin/admin_handle_request 
> 		Received admin command metadata on mount "/foo.ogg"
> 	[2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/command_metadata 
> 				Got metadata update request
> 	
> 	and access.log:
> 	xxx.yyy.zzz.?????? - - [21/Jan/2004:12:20:32 +0100] "GET 	/admin/metadata
> HTTP/1.1" 404 82 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 	i686; en-US; rv:1.5)
> Gecko/20031225 Firebird/0.7" 0
> 
> 	All the others requests work fine.
> 	
> 	I'm using icecast-2.0.0 and ices-2.0-Beta4 as source

this is because it's an ogg stream, the mechanism above is the way to
insert song title updates for mp3.  Either insert New+Metadata at ices
(won't work when using a playlist) or use my icecast -kh22 from
www.xiph.org/~karl which has the URL code for it in.

karl.

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From jesper.johnson at welho.com  Wed Jan 21 13:42:45 2004
From: jesper.johnson at welho.com (Jesper Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:42:45 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Log delay, recoverable error -1, replaygain
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Hi!

I have a few questions about the log files icecast produces, plus I have a
little issue with replaygain but lets start with the icecast log stuff:

If a client (listener) connects to icecast at, say, 12:00, the connection
time is stored in the access log about 15-30 minutes later (or on
disconnection). Is it possible to get icecast to log client connections
immediately with the correct timestamp (so that a new
connection/error/whatever would immediately produce a new line in the log
file(s))? I'm working on a PHP script to monitor icecast connections and
would like to do it by parsing the log files instead of continuously
querying the icecast server itself via the web admin interface.

Another thing that bugs me a bit are the hundreds of lines of:
[2004-01-10  02:00:36] DBUG format/format_generic_write_buf_to_client
Client had recoverable error -1

...in the error log file. What is "recoverable error -1" and what causes
it? Everything seems to work quite smoothly, but I was just wondering if
there is a possible error in my config / network / something else.

The third thing that makes me ponder is compatibility between replaygain,
ices2, icecast2 and xmms. Has anyone managed to get all of these working
together so that the replaygain values in the ogg files' metadata actually
have an effect in the playback volume when streamed through icecast into
xmms? (sidenote: my ices config uses an external playlist program to fetch
filenames)

Well, that's all :-) Thanks in advance!

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From jigen at autistici.org  Wed Jan 21 13:47:49 2004
From: jigen at autistici.org (jigen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:47:49 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
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On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 13:50, Karl Heyes wrote:
> this is because it's an ogg stream, the mechanism above is the way to
> insert song title updates for mp3.  Either insert New+Metadata at ices
> (won't work when using a playlist) or use my icecast -kh22 from
> www.xiph.org/~karl which has the URL code for it in.
> 
> karl.
I've tried with an mp3 stream with icecast-2.0.0 and it is the same.
I've also tried with mp3 and ogg on icecast-2.0-kh22 and nothing.

Maybe something wrong in server's configuration..

<p>        jigen

        
this is my icecast.xml:

<icecast>
    <limits>
        <clients>50</clients>
        <sources>10</sources>
        <threadpool>5</threadpool>
        <queue-size>102400</queue-size>
        <client-timeout>30</client-timeout>
        <header-timeout>15</header-timeout>
        <source-timeout>10</source-timeout>
    </limits>

    <authentication>
        <!-- Sources log in with username 'source' -->
        <source-password>pwd</source-password>
        <!-- Relays log in username 'relay' -->
        <relay-password>lemon</relay-password>

        <!-- Admin logs in with the username given below -->
        <admin-user>admin</admin-user>
        <admin-password>otherpwd</admin-password>
    </authentication>

    <hostname>stream.domain.net</hostname>

    <!-- You may have multiple <listener> elements -->
    <listen-socket>
        <port>8008</port>
        <!-- <bind-address>127.0.0.1</bind-address> -->
    </listen-socket>

        <relay-shoutcast-metadata>0</relay-shoutcast-metadata>
    </relay>
    -->

    <fileserve>1</fileserve>

    <paths>
        <basedir>/home/kriegs/icecast2</basedir>

        <!-- Note that if <chroot> is turned on below, these paths must
both
             be relative to the new root, not the original root -->
        <logdir>/home/kriegs/icecast2/log</logdir>
        <webroot>/home/kriegs/icecast2/www</webroot>
        <adminroot>/home/kriegs/icecast2/admin</adminroot>
        <!-- <pidfile>/home/kriegs/icecast2/icecast2.pid</pidfile> -->
        </paths>       
    <logging>
        <accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
        <errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
        <loglevel>4</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
    </logging>

    <security>
        <chroot>0</chroot>
        <!--
        <changeowner>
            <user>nobody</user>
            <group>nogroup</group>
        </changeowner>
        -->
    </security>
</icecast>

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From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 21 14:42:38 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 21 Jan 2004 14:42:38 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
In-Reply-To: <1074692869.319.56.camel@skunky.metalabs.org>
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On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 13:47, jigen wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 13:50, Karl Heyes wrote:
> > this is because it's an ogg stream, the mechanism above is the way to
> > insert song title updates for mp3.  Either insert New+Metadata at ices
> > (won't work when using a playlist) or use my icecast -kh22 from
> > www.xiph.org/~karl which has the URL code for it in.
> > 
> > karl.
> I've tried with an mp3 stream with icecast-2.0.0 and it is the same.
> I've also tried with mp3 and ogg on icecast-2.0-kh22 and nothing.
> 
> Maybe something wrong in server's configuration..

unlikely.  The access log you had before stated a 404 so that would
indicate the mountpoint didn't match or wasn't connected at the time.

The error log from the -kh22 run might be helpful to me, email that
separately.

karl.

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From jigen at autistici.org  Wed Jan 21 15:26:15 2004
From: jigen at autistici.org (jigen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:26:15 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
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On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 15:42, Karl Heyes wrote:
> unlikely.  The access log you had before stated a 404 so that would
> indicate the mountpoint didn't match or wasn't connected at the time.
> 
> The error log from the -kh22 run might be helpful to me, email that
> separately.

<p>access.log:
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [21/Jan/2004:16:13:54 +0100] "GET /admin/metadata
HTTP/1.1" 404 82 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5)
Gecko/20031225 Firebird/0.7" 0
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [21/Jan/2004:16:14:02 +0100] "GET /admin/metadata
HTTP/1.1" 404 82 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5)
Gecko/20031225 Firebird/0.7" 0

<p>and error.log:
[2004-01-21  16:13:54] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client
connected
[2004-01-21  16:13:54] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request Got command
(metadata)
[2004-01-21  16:13:54] INFO admin/admin_handle_request Received admin
command metadata on mount "/foo"
[2004-01-21  16:13:54] DBUG admin/command_metadata Got metadata update
request
[2004-01-21  16:14:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client
connected
[2004-01-21  16:14:02] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request Got command
(metadata)
[2004-01-21  16:14:02] INFO admin/admin_handle_request Received admin
command metadata on mount "/foo.ogg"
[2004-01-21  16:14:02] DBUG admin/command_metadata Got metadata update
request

<p>It seems like before....

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Wed Jan 21 15:56:31 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:56:31 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
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your close.... :)

from the icecast2 documentation :

http://192.168.1.10:8000/admin/metadata?mount=/mystream&mode=updinfo&song=ACDC+Back+In+Black

o change your action parameter to mode and you'll be all set...

and FYI, Missing parameter is a general message which means, "I was 
expecting you to pass in a variable into the admin request (mode in this 
case) but you did not"... :)

oddsock
At 05:50 AM 1/21/2004, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>         I would like to update metadata by using this request:
>http://server:port/admin/metadata?mount=/foo.ogg&action=updinfo&song=New+Metadata,
>         but when I send the request, icecast returns an error:
>         "Missing parameter" and metadata doesn't change.
>
>         This is error.log:
>
>         [2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/admin_handle_request
>                                         Got command (metadata)
>         [2004-01-21  12:20:32] INFO admin/admin_handle_request
>                 Received admin command metadata on mount "/foo.ogg"
>         [2004-01-21  12:20:32] DBUG admin/command_metadata
>                                 Got metadata update request
>
>         and access.log:
>         xxx.yyy.zzz.??? - - [21/Jan/2004:12:20:32 +0100] 
> "GET   /admin/metadata
>HTTP/1.1" 404 82 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux        i686; en-US; rv:1.5)
>Gecko/20031225 Firebird/0.7" 0
>
>         All the others requests work fine.
>
>         I'm using icecast-2.0.0 and ices-2.0-Beta4 as source
>
>         Any ideas?
>
>         tnx,
>                 jigen
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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Wed Jan 21 16:59:47 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:59:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] an error message
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        Hello there list,

I have an error going on here not sure what it means.  This is the error:
[2004-01-21  09:55:01] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial
connect to hotspotandhotjamz.dyndns.org:8000 (Couldn't connect: Connection
refused).  I have opened ports 8000 and 8001 through the firewall.  Also
have checked with my isp to make sure this is not blocked and they said it
wasn't.  Any ideas here?
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From jas3 at bean-net.net  Wed Jan 21 17:05:36 2004
From: jas3 at bean-net.net (John Simkiss)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:05:36 -0000
Subject: [icecast] an error message
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I can ping your name, so your IP is resolving properly.

But I cannot telnet through to either 8000 or 8001.  Are you sure your firewall is configured properly to forward packets to the proper internal destination?

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  Subject: [icecast] an error message

<p>  Hello there list,

  I have an error going on here not sure what it means.  This is the error:
  [2004-01-21  09:55:01] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial
  connect to hotspotandhotjamz.dyndns.org:8000 (Couldn't connect: Connection
  refused).  I have opened ports 8000 and 8001 through the firewall.  Also
  have checked with my isp to make sure this is not blocked and they said it
  wasn't.  Any ideas here?
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From jigen at autistici.org  Wed Jan 21 18:26:39 2004
From: jigen at autistici.org (jigen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:26:39 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Update Metadata Failed
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Message-ID: <1074709598.342.15.camel@skunky.metalabs.org>



On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 16:56, oddsock wrote:

tnx

I'm using Icecast-2.0.beta3 documentation :
http://192.168.1.10:8000/admin/metadata?mount=/mystream.ogg&action=updinfo&song=ACDC+Back+In+Black
                                                           ^^^^^^^^
Now, using -kh22 metadata changes with mp3 stream but no with ogg.

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From richard at darq.net  Wed Jan 21 18:14:25 2004
From: richard at darq.net (Richard Airlie)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:14:25 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
Message-ID: <20040121181425.GC3948@elkcity.darq.net>



Hello.
I understand that ices 0.3 is capable of streaming mp3 to an Icecast 2
server, and that ices 2 is capable of streaming ogg to an Icecast 2
server, but what I'm really after is a single version of ices that can
stream mp3 and ogg to an Icecast 2 server. Does such a thing exist?

Currently 90% of my audio files are mp3, but I am starting to use ogg
instead for new files. However as it looks like I can't have both
ogg and mp3 in an ices playlist, I am forced to go with mp3 as thats
what the majority of my existing content is.

Any suggestions appreciated!  I am not averse to getting my hands dirty
and taking the mp3-handling stuff from ices 0.3 and trying to fit it
into ices 2, if that may be reasonably possible?

thankyou
Richard
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From karl at xiph.org  Wed Jan 21 21:26:13 2004
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 21 Jan 2004 21:26:13 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
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On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 18:14, Richard Airlie wrote:
> Hello.
> I understand that ices 0.3 is capable of streaming mp3 to an Icecast 2
> server, and that ices 2 is capable of streaming ogg to an Icecast 2
> server, but what I'm really after is a single version of ices that can
> stream mp3 and ogg to an Icecast 2 server. Does such a thing exist?
> 
> Currently 90% of my audio files are mp3, but I am starting to use ogg
> instead for new files. However as it looks like I can't have both
> ogg and mp3 in an ices playlist, I am forced to go with mp3 as thats
> what the majority of my existing content is.
> 
> Any suggestions appreciated!  I am not averse to getting my hands dirty
> and taking the mp3-handling stuff from ices 0.3 and trying to fit it
> into ices 2, if that may be reasonably possible?

the sort of thing what could be added to ices 2 is an external decode
handler for unknown types, that way ices would read PCM coming from a
decoder which you have installed.

karl.

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From brendan at xiph.org  Wed Jan 21 21:31:15 2004
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:31:15 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
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On Wednesday, 21 January 2004 at 18:14, Richard Airlie wrote:
> Hello.
> I understand that ices 0.3 is capable of streaming mp3 to an Icecast 2
> server, and that ices 2 is capable of streaming ogg to an Icecast 2
> server, but what I'm really after is a single version of ices that can
> stream mp3 and ogg to an Icecast 2 server. Does such a thing exist?
> 
> Currently 90% of my audio files are mp3, but I am starting to use ogg
> instead for new files. However as it looks like I can't have both
> ogg and mp3 in an ices playlist, I am forced to go with mp3 as thats
> what the majority of my existing content is.
> 
> Any suggestions appreciated!  I am not averse to getting my hands dirty
> and taking the mp3-handling stuff from ices 0.3 and trying to fit it
> into ices 2, if that may be reasonably possible?

if you've built ices 0.3 with lame and ogg support, it can read ogg
files and turn them into MP3 on the fly. So your input playlist can
have a mix, but the output will be only MP3. This was added to ices
precisely to smooth the transition from MP3 to Ogg.
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From adon at yorku.ca  Wed Jan 21 21:34:35 2004
From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:34:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
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>
> Currently 90% of my audio files are mp3, but I am starting to use ogg
> instead for new files. However as it looks like I can't have both
> ogg and mp3 in an ices playlist, I am forced to go with mp3 as thats
> what the majority of my existing content is.

what i had done here is convert the mp3's to ogg . . someone can give you
a command to do this. it was easy , but took awhile .

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From giles at ghostscript.com  Wed Jan 21 21:37:46 2004
From: giles at ghostscript.com (Ralph Giles)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:37:46 -0800
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 04:31:15PM -0500, Brendan Cully wrote:

> if you've built ices 0.3 with lame and ogg support, it can read ogg
> files and turn them into MP3 on the fly. So your input playlist can
> have a mix, but the output will be only MP3. This was added to ices
> precisely to smooth the transition from MP3 to Ogg.

This is of course, the opposite of what you want to be doing. :)

Personally, I'd think re-encoding all your files is a better use of time than porting mp3 support 
to ices2.

 -r
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From adon at yorku.ca  Wed Jan 21 21:47:01 2004
From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:47:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Streaming MP3 and OGG with one Ices
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>
> This is of course, the opposite of what you want to be doing. :)
>
> Personally, I'd think re-encoding all your files is a better use of time than porting mp3 support
> to ices2.

and this way you can use ogg for archives . you can still transcode an mp3
stream on the fly for compatibility if need be .. (transcoder works quite
well i've found .. it's a little difficult to automate due to timing , but
it works very well once its set correctly ) .

a.

(this is how i've got it on http://theDV8network.com , you can request a
show and it'll broadcast both the hi/low quality oggs and transcode an mp3
on the fly -- i can only run two channels tho , as the transcoding
requires a fair bit of processing power )

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From msmith at xiph.org  Thu Jan 22 00:28:55 2004
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:28:55 +1100
Subject: [icecast] Log delay, recoverable error -1, replaygain
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On Thursday 22 January 2004 00:42, Jesper Johnson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a few questions about the log files icecast produces, plus I have a
> little issue with replaygain but lets start with the icecast log stuff:
>
> If a client (listener) connects to icecast at, say, 12:00, the connection
> time is stored in the access log about 15-30 minutes later (or on
> disconnection). Is it possible to get icecast to log client connections
> immediately with the correct timestamp (so that a new
> connection/error/whatever would immediately produce a new line in the log
> file(s))? I'm working on a PHP script to monitor icecast connections and
> would like to do it by parsing the log files instead of continuously
> querying the icecast server itself via the web admin interface.

The log format requires that it is only written on disconnect.

It would be easy to add another form of logging that logged on connection, but 
I'm not sure it's a good idea. I'll think about it.

<p>>
> Another thing that bugs me a bit are the hundreds of lines of:
> [2004-01-10  02:00:36] DBUG format/format_generic_write_buf_to_client
> Client had recoverable error -1
>
> ...in the error log file. What is "recoverable error -1" and what causes
> it? Everything seems to work quite smoothly, but I was just wondering if
> there is a possible error in my config / network / something else.

It's a recoverable error - usually, it means the TCP send window is currently 
full, so icecast has to wait a while before sending any more. There's a 
reason this is logged only at 'DBUG' level.

Mike

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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Thu Jan 22 05:02:02 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:02:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] questions about virtual domains and icecast
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Hello there list,

I have several virtual domains here such as:
"hotspotandhotjamz.dyndns.org" (where I want the server and client of
icecast too think they are that) "drscott.dyndns.biz" "bear at bresnan.net"
and69.144.146.8.  Will these happen to cause loss of audio or rought
streaming when accessed?
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From adon at yorku.ca  Thu Jan 22 06:09:48 2004
From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:09:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] questions about virtual domains and icecast
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>
> I have several virtual domains here such as:
> "hotspotandhotjamz.dyndns.org" (where I want the server and client of
> icecast too think they are that) "drscott.dyndns.biz" "bear at bresnan.net"
> and69.144.146.8.  Will these happen to cause loss of audio or rought
> streaming when accessed?

what is your question ? is it an apache one ?? virtual hosts and icecast
work fine .. and depending on your dynamic IP provider , it should not be
a problem . check http://zoneedit.com for the one that i have used with
good success ..

 a.

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From jim at electron.phys.dal.ca  Wed Jan 21 21:16:15 2004
From: jim at electron.phys.dal.ca (Jim Chisholm)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:16:15 -0400
Subject: [icecast] (no subject)
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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Thu Jan 22 12:44:44 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:44:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] questions about virtual domains and icecast
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Yes it was an apache question.  Thanks and I will take a look at the
site.  Dyndns does seem to work fiarly well I have never had problems
with it yet.On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Adon Irani wrote:

> >
> > I have several virtual domains here such as:
> > "hotspotandhotjamz.dyndns.org" (where I want the server and client of
> > icecast too think they are that) "drscott.dyndns.biz" "bear at bresnan.net"
> > and69.144.146.8.  Will these happen to cause loss of audio or rought
> > streaming when accessed?
>
> what is your question ? is it an apache one ?? virtual hosts and icecast
> work fine .. and depending on your dynamic IP provider , it should not be
> a problem . check http://zoneedit.com for the one that i have used with
> good success ..
>
>  a.
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From app at mbnet.fi  Thu Jan 22 13:25:11 2004
From: app at mbnet.fi (Aki Parviainen)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:25:11 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Static file before the real stream?
Message-ID: <20040122132511.GA27639@vipunen.hut.fi>



Hello,

Is it possible to stream a static file to a client before the real stream? 
I'd like to setup a live stream that would have a short station promotion 
or advertisement file before the real stream starts. I have checked the 
Icecast2 & Ices2 documentation but haven't found anything useful - is this 
possible at all?

Thank you,
Aki 
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From gshang at pacific.net.au  Thu Jan 22 14:49:48 2004
From: gshang at pacific.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:49:48 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Static file before the real stream?
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Hi:

AFAIK, this isn't possible directly with icecast, but if you organise to
have the file servable by either icecast's fileserve feature or a
webserver, you can call it in your playlist before the actual stream,
achieving the same effect, excepting of course the fact that users in the
know will be able to skip to the next track in their player.

Geoff.

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From gshang at pacific.net.au  Thu Jan 22 14:55:45 2004
From: gshang at pacific.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:55:45 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] bandwidth negotiation
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Hi:

The downside with the Real approach is that you need to have enough grunt
on your encoder box to chern out several different versions of the same
stream.  Once the technicalities of bitrate pealing are worked out,
somehting like this should be achievable with only one encoded stream...
Now that will be a fine thing when it eventually happens.

Geoff.

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From jigen at autistici.org  Fri Jan 23 23:04:16 2004
From: jigen at autistici.org (jigen)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:04:16 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Static file before the real stream?
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On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 14:25, Aki Parviainen wrote:
Is it possible to stream a static file to a client before the real stream? 
> I'd like to setup a live stream that would have a short station promotion 
> or advertisement file before the real stream starts. I have checked the 
> Icecast2 & Ices2 documentation but haven't found anything useful - is this 
> possible at all?

http://www.autistici.org/bakunin/soma/

this program is perfect for you, but it is only in italian :)

        jigen

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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Fri Jan 23 23:23:56 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:23:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] a few questions about relaying
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401231012560.903@Bear.bresnan.net>



Hi there list,

I have a few questions here.  First of all, can I relay an mp3 shoutcast
relay even though I am using ices2 for the ogg format?  Secondly, if the
first question is a yes how would I set my server to be used for dialup
streams.  In other words I would have to decrease the bit rate to
accomodate the dial up users.  Could this be done with out causing any
hard ships to what I already have set up?

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From boink at tetter.xs4all.nl  Sat Jan 24 00:34:13 2004
From: boink at tetter.xs4all.nl (boink)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:34:13 +0100
Subject: [icecast] a few questions about relaying <= streamTranscoder
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streamTranscoder can take a mp3 stream off a shoutcast/icecast1 or 2
server and put it into an ogg stream.

you can find streamTranscoder on www.oddsock.org 

for dialup streams, if most use a 56k modem (which is almost always 33k
upstream or even less), then the stream should be not more than 24k.

b.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 04:23:56PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote:
> Hi there list,
> 
> I have a few questions here.  First of all, can I relay an mp3 shoutcast
> relay even though I am using ices2 for the ogg format?  Secondly, if the
> first question is a yes how would I set my server to be used for dialup
> streams.  In other words I would have to decrease the bit rate to
> accomodate the dial up users.  Could this be done with out causing any
> hard ships to what I already have set up?
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From snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org  Sat Jan 24 14:42:20 2004
From: snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org (Paul S.)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:42:20 -0500
Subject: [icecast] YP Server Woes
Message-ID: <4012844C.6060903@forkbomb.dhs.org>



I'm having a problem getting my stream published on dir.xiph.org using 
icecast2/ices2-beta4

The output in my log is:
[snip]
DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result SID -> ()
DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Message -> ()
DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Touch Freq -> (0)
DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Response -> (0)
EROR yp/yp_submit_url Got a NAK from yp_add(Unknown) 
(http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi)
[snip]

I'm using curl 7.10.8/gcc 3.3.2 (if that data helps).

It's a bit perplexing. My icecast.xml contains the following string for 
the yp server:

     <directory>
         <yp-url-timeout>15</yp-url-timeout>
         <yp-url><a href="http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url">http://dir.xiph.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi</yp-url</a>>
     </directory>

And the ices2 config contains <yp>1</yp>

Is this an issue with chroot maybe? (I'm using icecast chroot).

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From andy at benow.ca  Mon Jan 26 00:32:17 2004
From: andy at benow.ca (Andrew Taylor)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:32:17 -0700
Subject: [icecast] libshout-java 0.2 released
Message-ID: <1075077137.21063.4.camel@canvas>



Hello,

A quick note to inform you all of the release of libshout-java v0.2. 
libshout-java are java bindings for libshout, allowing java applications
to reliably stream to icecast2 servers.  It has been working well for
the past couple months and is now supported under FreeBSD.

libshout-java may be downloaded from:

http://benow.ca/index?page=project&project=libshout-java

Andrew Taylor

(PS icecast dev's, I have no problems with it being listed in the
'Icecast Library / Language Bindings' section of the download page.)

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan 26 04:27:32 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:27:32 -0600
Subject: [icecast] YP Server Woes
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Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040125222536.02b66a08@www.oddsock.org>



At 08:42 AM 1/24/2004, you wrote:
>I'm having a problem getting my stream published on dir.xiph.org using 
>icecast2/ices2-beta4
>
>The output in my log is:
>[snip]
>DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result SID -> ()
>DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Message -> ()
>DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Touch Freq -> (0)
>DBUG geturl/curl_print_header_result Response -> (0)
>EROR yp/yp_submit_url Got a NAK from yp_add(Unknown) 
>(http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi)
>[snip]

looks like your problem is listing at www.oddsock.org, not dir.xiph.org...I 
did have some major site problems this weekend but that should all be 
resolved at this point...

>I'm using curl 7.10.8/gcc 3.3.2 (if that data helps).

what exactly are you using curl for ? not sure how this relates to your 
problem..

oddsock 

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From scott at drscott.dyndns.biz  Wed Jan 28 22:53:03 2004
From: scott at drscott.dyndns.biz (Scott Berry)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:53:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [icecast] getting ices2 beta4 to work with alsa
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How do I get my alsa drivers to work with icecast2?  I am working right
now on the ices-live.xml file.  Also do I need to change anything else to
work with alsa?  Thanks for the help and I am using a Debian distro with a
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From iceuse at kezako.net  Wed Jan 28 16:39:43 2004
From: iceuse at kezako.net (iceuse at kezako.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:39:43 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Daily icecast dump file
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Hello,
Is there a way to tell icecast to change of dump file for a particular source when needed ?
This may be very useful to have 24h dump files.
Thanks,
Chris
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From zuendler at t-online.de  Wed Jan 28 06:44:01 2004
From: zuendler at t-online.de (zuendler at t-online.de)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:44:01 +0100
Subject: [icecast] can´t start liveice with cronjob
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Hallo,  

I have a problem to start liveice with a cronjob.

On both machines is running debian 3.0. Both machines are connect via
vpn. As server is icecast 1.3.11 running on the nother machine liveice.
No GUI. Ihave sometimes problems with the vpn connection, this is the
reason why I will frequently kill an restart the liveice process. In the
archive list I found some scripts to restart the liveice and icecast
process, the scripts works well but it doesn?t work with a cronjob.

This is the small script to kill and restart the liveice

#!/bin/sh

killall lame
sleep 5
liveice -F liveice01.cfg >/dev/null 2>/dev/null

<p>the cronjob

*/1 * * * * my script

When I start the script without cronjob, ps afx shows me 

\_liveice -F liveice01.cfg 
   \_liveice -F liveice01.cfg
    \_lame -m m -s 24.000000 -b 56 -r -x -h .liveic

When I start with cronjob there is only

\_liveice .F liveice01.cfg

I?m a linux newbe and hope there is not a stupid question

Thanks

Andreas

 

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 23:00:01 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:00:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] multiple bitrates
Message-ID: <20040126230001.68454.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com>



greetings!

wanted to say thank you for all of the support i
received from this list.  finally got my icecast
server up and running, and it sounds awesome!

got another one for you:

running icecast2 and ices-0.3 (in the process of
converting to ogg properly)

we want to have multiple streams for listeners with
differing connections (24k, 64k, 128k)

is it best to create three different directories of
mp3s encoded at the mentioned bitrates, then start
ices with three different playlists on three different
ports.

or, is it better to just have one directory of the
mp3s, and have ices reencode them to the proper
bitrate.

i think the first method would use less cpu power, but
is this possible?  if so, how?

thanks!

jg

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From nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jan 27 21:26:57 2004
From: nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de (Joern Nettingsmeier)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:26:57 +0100
Subject: [icecast] buglet in admin web interface...
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a minor buglet in the web interface when clients to other mountpoints:

<p>http://localhost:8000/admin/moveclients.xsl?mount=/low-q.ogg&destination=/med-q.ogg

yields

"
Icecast 2 Response

  Message : Clients moved from /med-q.ogg to /low-q.ogg
  Return Code: 1
"

hould be *from* /low-q.ogg *to* /med-q.ogg.

<p>regards,

j?rn

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From tarkin-dev-request at xiph.org  Wed Jan 28 14:00:14 2004
From: tarkin-dev-request at xiph.org (tarkin-dev-request at xiph.org)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:00:14 -0500
Subject: [icecast] hi
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From nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de  Tue Jan 27 23:37:02 2004
From: nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de (Joern Nettingsmeier)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:37:02 +0100
Subject: [icecast] status of speex over icecast ?
Message-ID: <4016F61E.3060600@folkwang-hochschule.de>



hello everyone!

is it possible to stream speex via icecast ?

i'm looking into it for the broadcasting of the upcoming linux audio 
developers' conference (http://www.zkm.de/lad) as an addition to the ogg 
vorbis streams we will provide.
a quick search in the speex mailing list archive yields nothing.

if somebody here has such a project on the back burner and is looking 
for the ultimate field test opportunity, please holler now. we will be 
compiling icecast servers from cvs if necessary, and since the audience 
is mostly techies, i'm sure they will be willing to download even the 
most obscure client software :)

best regards,

j?rn

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From iceuse at kezako.net  Wed Jan 28 10:54:08 2004
From: iceuse at kezako.net (iceuse at kezako.net)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:54:08 +0100
Subject: [icecast] icecast chuid nobody:nogroup and logging issue...
Message-ID: <E1AlnKi-0002A7-00@Yglar>



Hi,              
I have a trouble with chuid and logging...
I run icecast as nobody:nogroup
                <changeowner><user>nobody</user><group>nogroup</group></changeowner>
It writes error_log and access_log in /var/log/icecast
drwxrwxrwx    2 nobody   nogroup      4096 Jan 28 11:20 icecast
which belongs to nobody:nogroup
but it creates files with root:root uid
-rw-------    1 root     root          855 Jan 28 11:47 access.log
-rw-------    1 root     root         4003 Jan 28 11:47 error.log
If I delete the files, start icecast, it creates them as above.
If I stop icecast and restart it, then
Changed userid to 65534.
FATAL: could not open error logging
FATAL: could not open access logging
FATAL: Could not start logging

normal, because the files belongs to root:root
...
I don't understand why the files are not belonging to nobody:nogroup at creation...
In the meanwhile, I put a chown to solve my problem...

Regards,
(I'm using icecast2-kh22)

Chris
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Mon Jan 26 17:44:51 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:44:51 -0600
Subject: [icecast] libshout-java 0.2 released
In-Reply-To: <1075077137.21063.4.camel@canvas>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040126114426.02b95df0@www.oddsock.org>



excellent..nice work....

added to our language bindings page..

oddsock
At 06:32 PM 1/25/2004, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>A quick note to inform you all of the release of libshout-java v0.2.
>libshout-java are java bindings for libshout, allowing java applications
>to reliably stream to icecast2 servers.  It has been working well for
>the past couple months and is now supported under FreeBSD.
>
>libshout-java may be downloaded from:
>
>http://benow.ca/index?page=project&project=libshout-java
>
>Andrew Taylor
>
>(PS icecast dev's, I have no problems with it being listed in the
>'Icecast Library / Language Bindings' section of the download page.)
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From maillistparticipant at elgaard.net  Fri Jan 30 01:28:02 2004
From: maillistparticipant at elgaard.net (Jørgen Elgaard Larsen)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:28:02 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Server drops client - problem with IceS?
Message-ID: <4019B322.9080908@elgaard.net>



Hi there,

I just joined the list and have a question on one of the earlier posts:

On Oct 28 2003, Ricardo wrote that his server diconnected his clients. I 
have the exact same problem - and a bit of testing/analysis.

<p>I am running an Icecast server and IceS on the same linux box. IceS is 
encoding a live stream from my sound card.

After a while of listening (approx 2 mins) from another box, the server 
disconnects the client. The log says:

DBUG format/format_generic_write_buf_to_client Client had recoverable 
error -1
DBUG format/format_generic_write_buf_to_client Client had recoverable 
error -1
[repeats some 50 to 250 times, once or twice a second]
DBUG source/source_main Client has fallen too far behind, removing
DBUG source/source_main Client removed

<p>I read Karl's earlier explanaion on that:
> this indicates that the amount of data due to go to that client has
> grown too large. There are several possibilities for this, one is
> stalls on the network, maybe TCP flow control kicking in or an actual
> outage/misconfiguration. Another is buggy client

That was my initial thoughts, too.

There is, however, a couple of twists on that in my case:

1) When I use the same client to listen to an Ogg file served directly
    by the Icecast server (using "fileserve"), there is no such problem.
    This should more or less exclude network issues.

2) The problem is experienced using another client on another OS (Winamp
    5 on Windows 98 instead of ogg123 og Linux). This does not entirely
    exclude the client, but close.

3) Changing bitrate of the stream does not seem to change very much
    regarding (the client may hold on a few seconds more on a ridiculous
    low bitrate).

4) It seems that the problem lies in that the client plays the stream
    too slow compared to the recording. Sample rate is the same all the
    way through, but maybe it goes wrong somewhere?

    I notice, that ogg123's input and output buffers are at 100% most of
    the time - the input buffer gradually crawls from 10 to 100%. When it
    reaches 100%, the log errors begin on the server.

    If I playback at approx. 9% higher speed, it works fine, e.g.
       ogg123 -x 100 -y 92 http://my.server:8765/mystream.ogg
    - except for the resulting small clicks in the audio, of course :-)

    By doing this, ogg123's input buffer stays at about 10%.

5) When I change IceS to take input from a playlist instead of from the
    sound card, the problem goes away and ogg123's buffers drops to
    25/75%

6) I just recorded a WAV file on the server using arecord and then
    encoded it using oggenc. When played as a file (using "fileserve"),
    it works fine. Played as playlist through IceC, it also works fine,
    with ogg123 buffers at 25/75%

My conclusion is that the problem probably lies with IceS - presumably 
in either reading from the (alsa) sound driver or in the Ogg encoding of 
the PCM input. Somewhere on the way it must be messing up the sample 
rate, I guess.

<p>Any thoughts on that?

<p><p>-----------------
Details about my setup:

Server:
Pentium II, 800MHz running Debian GNU/Linux (woody). No X.
Kernel 2.4.18 (custom build)
Icecast 2.0.0 downloaded a couple of days ago
IceS 2.0-Beta4
- both build from tarballs.
Recording from a Soundblaster 128 PCI using ALSA drivers.
The server runs at loads about 0.4 when running both icecast and iceS

Client1:
Pentium IV laptop
Red Hat Linux 9, kernel 2.4.20 (Red Hat version)
onboard i810 sound card, OSS driver
ogg123 from vorbis-tools 1.0 - installed via RPM's a couple of days ago

Client2:
Same laptop, running Win98SE
Winamp 5, downloaded today

Network:
100Mbit LAN

-------------------

Hope you have some ideas on this.

<p><p>Sincerely,

J?rgen Elgaard Larsen
IT Manager
University Radio of Copenhagen
Denmark

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From ekiczek at wcfia.harvard.edu  Wed Jan 28 03:43:34 2004
From: ekiczek at wcfia.harvard.edu (Ethan Kiczek)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:43:34 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Newbie Icecast question
Message-ID: <40172FE6.7060706@wcfia.harvard.edu>



I've installed Icecast2 on RedHat 9 and am able to use WinAmp and 
Oddcast on a Win2000 PC to source audio to the Icecast2 server. This has 
helped me understand how to stream a live feed to Icecast2, which is 
incredibly easy and useful.

My question is regarding pre-recorded audio files. If I have a series of 
archived live performances (let's say they were archived to MP3 files), 
how do I allow listeners to start these recordings on the fly, say from 
a web page? I'm getting the impression that IceS may be able to do this 
for me if the files are on my RedHat server, but do I have to launch a 
new IceS source for each request?

Thanks in advance,

Ethan


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From dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr  Tue Jan 27 02:38:23 2004
From: dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr (Apostolopoulos Ioannis)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:38:23 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Some questions on setting up web radio and mirror streaming...
Message-ID: <EB9251239B96944C895280024D7FB35A02C1962D@hermes.aegean.gr>



Hello IceCasters!
I am new to the community here, so forgive me for not knowing a lot about
the issue. I am a student in a University in Greece. I would like to ask a
question, I don't know if it has already been answered, but I hope I can
find a way through this...
We are about to set up a radio station in our department, and I would like
to find some ways and techniques in order to make it possible to broadcast
live via web. What do I have to know and how to set up the service? Also, I
would like to ask if we can use mirror servers for the stream. Meaning, if
we can have a number of IceCast2 servers in different departments of the
University, can we just pass the stream into multiple ones? So, if the one
goes offline, or crushes, to automatically (or manually) pass into another
one? And, if in another dept. there is another, a different stream (that is
another radio station that broadcasts also, live) can it use the same
architecture of the network, to mirror its stream to other servers on the
University?
 
I would appreciate your help and any possible answer. Thank you.
 
 
Apostolopoulos Ioannis (John) -  <http://www.aegean.gr/> University of the
Aegean
 <http://www.syros.aegean.gr/> Dept. of Product & Systems Design Engineering
Email:  <mailto:dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr> dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr
 

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From kevinw at houston.rr.com  Wed Jan 28 16:33:52 2004
From: kevinw at houston.rr.com (Kevin White)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:33:52 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Connecting to server from WinXP
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040128103033.009e9310@pop-server.houston.rr.com>



I have IceCast2 running.  LiveIce is running and gives a mountpoint 
"liveice".  I run a cd using kdcd player.  When I get on WinXP loaded with 
Itunes and give the URL for the server [192.xxx.x.xxx:8000/liveice] nothing 
happens.

The log says source not found.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Kevin

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From dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr  Fri Jan 30 01:09:10 2004
From: dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr (Apostolopoulos Ioannis)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:09:10 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Some questions on setting up web radio and mirror streaming...
Message-ID: <EB9251239B96944C895280024D7FB35A02C1962E@hermes.aegean.gr>



Hello IceCasters!
I am new to the community here, so forgive me for not knowing a lot about
the issue. I am a student in a University in Greece. I would like to ask a
question, I don't know if it has already been answered, but I hope I can
find a way through this...
We are about to set up a radio station in our department, and I would like
to find some ways and techniques in order to make it possible to broadcast
live via web. What do I have to know and how to set up the service? Also, I
would like to ask if we can use mirror servers for the stream. Meaning, if
we can have a number of IceCast2 servers in different departments of the
University, can we just pass the stream into multiple ones? So, if the one
goes offline, or crushes, to automatically (or manually) pass into another
one? And, if in another dept. there is another, a different stream (that is
another radio station that broadcasts also, live) can it use the same
architecture of the network, to mirror its stream to other servers on the
University?
 
I would appreciate your help and any possible answer. Thank you.
 
 
Apostolopoulos Ioannis (John) -  <http://www.aegean.gr/> University of the
Aegean
 <http://www.syros.aegean.gr/> Dept. of Product & Systems Design Engineering
Email:  <mailto:dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr> dpsd02005 at syros.aegean.gr
 
 

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From jrgalan at yahoo.com  Mon Jan 26 23:40:51 2004
From: jrgalan at yahoo.com (jensen galan)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:40:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] multiple bitrates
Message-ID: <20040126234051.52899.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com>



greetings!

wanted to say thank you for all of the support i
received from this list.  finally got my icecast
server up and running, and it sounds awesome!

got another one for you:

running icecast2 and ices-0.3 (in the process of
converting to ogg properly)

we want to have multiple streams for listeners with
differing connections (24k, 64k, 128k)

is it best to create three different directories of
mp3s encoded at the mentioned bitrates, then start
ices with three different playlists on three different
ports.

or, is it better to just have one directory of the
mp3s, and have ices reencode them to the proper
bitrate.

i think the first method would use less cpu power, but
is this possible?  if so, how?

thanks!

jg

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From asepsunandar at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 11:10:51 2004
From: asepsunandar at yahoo.com (asep sunandar)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:10:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] common problem
Message-ID: <20040128111051.15168.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com>


hallo ,
I already install icecast with rpm and it's fine 
but when I try to run default configuration
/etc/icecast.xml ,I have find some error ,this is my
error 

--
Changed groupid to 500.
Changed userid to 500.
FATAL: could not open error logging
FATAL: could not open access logging
FATAL: Could not start logging
--
I change user and group with some user ,the default
configuration is like this in attachment ..

maybe someone can helpme ..
thank you

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From asepsunandar at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 28 11:10:51 2004
From: asepsunandar at yahoo.com (asep sunandar)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:10:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] common problem
Message-ID: <1075445026.0000@hypermail.dummy>


hallo ,
I already install icecast with rpm and it's fine 
but when I try to run default configuration
/etc/icecast.xml ,I have find some error ,this is my
error 

--
Changed groupid to 500.
Changed userid to 500.
FATAL: could not open error logging
FATAL: could not open access logging
FATAL: Could not start logging
--
I change user and group with some user ,the default
configuration is like this in attachment ..

maybe someone can helpme ..
thank you

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From aguzman at cristolinux.org  Fri Jan 30 06:38:44 2004
From: aguzman at cristolinux.org (aguzman)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:38:44 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Audio Stream Hosting
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401281551200.1003@Bear.bresnan.net>
Message-ID: <200401300638.i0U6citL028079@linux11442.dn.net>



I want to give some quota in my server to 25 of my clients and give them the 
opportunity to use my icecast server so they can stream music.  Im not sure 
yet how to do it, maybe let them put their mp3s in the server and then 
create a playlist for each one of them or if I should let them stream from 
their own pc.  Im undecited and any advice on what options would be best and 
why would be greatly apreciated. 

Thank you,
:) 

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From kevinw at houston.rr.com  Wed Jan 28 16:36:37 2004
From: kevinw at houston.rr.com (Kevin White)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:36:37 -0600
Subject: [icecast] XMMS with liveice-xmms plugin
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040128103410.009f2890@pop-server.houston.rr.com>



Am I making the right assumptions....  I run icecast and then only need to 
run xmms with the plug in enabled to stream to the net.... Or do I need to 
run LiveIce as well???

When I try running liveice and xmms together xmms locks up.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Kevin

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From iceuse at kezako.net  Fri Jan 30 10:11:52 2004
From: iceuse at kezako.net (iceuse at kezako.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:11:52 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Transcoding ogg with curl, oggdec, ices2: problem after fallback due to oggdec
Message-ID: <E1AmVcu-0007ei-00@Yglar>



Hello,
oggdec is a very simple ogg decoder, and it fails in the following case:
a source A has a fallback A'
transcoder curl | oggdec | ices2 is transcoding to lower bitrates ogg
A fails, all the listeners are transfered to A'

oggdec fails because the stream content changed:
[2004-01-29  18:44:47] OggDec 1.0.1
[2004-01-29  18:44:47] Warning: hole in data

<p><p>[2004-01-29  18:46:17] Warning: hole in data
[2004-01-29  18:46:17] Warning: hole in data
[2004-01-29  18:46:17] Only one logical bitstream currently supported.

(I added timestamp to oggdec to find out the problem)

this cause all the reencoded streams to fail and the transcoder has to restart.

So, the question is:
is there an ogg decoder which may handle this nicely?
is there an ogg decoder with a http url opener (to read the source without curl)?
this decoder must be a command-line tool!

The other solution is to merge curl and oggdec and ask it to reopen url after each failure.

I don't want to use streamTranscoder for this, because curl|oggdec|ices2 2is producing many output streams with different bitrates.
With streamTranscoder, only one output is possible (I don't want 3, 5 or more instances of streamTranscoder to run).

Thanks,
Chris
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From yamartin at erasme.org  Fri Jan 30 11:01:54 2004
From: yamartin at erasme.org (Yves-Armel Martin)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:01:54 +0100
Subject: [icecast] changing pwd without restrarting the server
Message-ID: <02bc01c3e720$7899f030$9b2d4580@yam>



Hi,

We are currently running an educational Webradio (radio.laclasse.com) on
icecast1. We developped a reservation tool so that the teachers of our
school network can reserve one hour of diffusion, they receive an email with
their password that works only during the hour they reserved.

We want to improve this calendar tool, and so we plan to move to icecast 2.
But it seems impossible to change the password without having to restart the
server. Any idea on that ?

YAM

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 30 14:40:03 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:40:03 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Newbie Icecast question
In-Reply-To: <40172FE6.7060706@wcfia.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040130083654.02047f70@www.oddsock.org>


<body>
At 09:43 PM 1/27/2004, you wrote:
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I've installed Icecast2 on RedHat 9
and am able to use WinAmp and Oddcast on a Win2000 PC to source audio to
the Icecast2 server. This has helped me understand how to stream a live
feed to Icecast2, which is incredibly easy and useful.
My question is regarding pre-recorded audio files. If I have a series of
archived live performances (let's say they were archived to MP3 files),
how do I allow listeners to start these recordings on the fly, say from a
web page? I'm getting the impression that IceS may be able to do this for
me if the files are on my RedHat server, but do I have to launch a new
IceS source for each request? 
</blockquote>
icecast streams static content the same way apache does, just dump your
mp3 files into the icecast webroot directory and create playlists
pointing to them...<br>
for instance, if your webroot was /home/me/icecast/webroot, and you
placed a file "track.mp3" in that directory, then you simply
need to create a file called track.m3u and place
"http://server:port/track.mp3"
in it, and then to stream that file, just access
http://server:port/track.m3u
from any supported listening client.<br>
oddsock<br>
</body>



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From Bryan.Walls at nasa.gov  Mon Jan 26 22:25:08 2004
From: Bryan.Walls at nasa.gov (Bryan Walls)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:25:08 -0600
Subject: [icecast] mp3 encoding?
In-Reply-To: <1069477177.30132.27.camel@dagwood>
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What are the current good options for encoding a live stream in icecast format?

I know about ices 0.3 for Unices, and WinAmp/Oddcast for Windows. Is 
there a current good option for Macintosh? How about using any of the 
encoders with QuickTime, Real, or Windows Media?

With WinAmp/Oddcast, if I use the latest versions, I can't currently 
set it up to reboot to automatically start streaming. It used to 
work, but I think that fell out of the code. Any ETA on it coming 
back?

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From pjf at cape.com  Fri Jan 30 17:01:01 2004
From: pjf at cape.com (Pete Flaherty)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:01:01 -0500
Subject: [icecast] XMMS with liveice-xmms plugin
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Kevin,
use the liveice-xmms plugin for xmms (not just liveice).

-pete

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:36:37 -0600, Kevin White wrote
> Am I making the right assumptions....  I run icecast and then only 
> need to run xmms with the plug in enabled to stream to the net.... 
> Or do I need to run LiveIce as well???
> 
> When I try running liveice and xmms together xmms locks up.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> Kevin
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From snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org  Fri Jan 30 17:54:49 2004
From: snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org (Paul)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:54:49 -0500
Subject: [icecast] YP Server Woes
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oddsock wrote:
> At 08:42 AM 1/24/2004, you wrote:

>> (http://www.oddsock.org/cgi-bin/yp-cgi)
>> [snip]
> 
> looks like your problem is listing at www.oddsock.org, not 
> dir.xiph.org...I did have some major site problems this weekend but that 
> should all be resolved at this point...

Yes, I intended on publishing to both. When I found out neither were 
working I disabled one to help dissect the situation.

>> I'm using curl 7.10.8/gcc 3.3.2 (if that data helps).
> 
> what exactly are you using curl for ? not sure how this relates to your 
> problem..

Icecast2 requires curl to contact the YP server does it not?

Would you be able to tell me if I had even reached your server from here 
(209.87.241.190). No rush, it's not a priority, I'd just like to figure 
out the problem.


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From snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org  Fri Jan 30 18:01:41 2004
From: snafu at forkbomb.dhs.org (Paul)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:01:41 -0500
Subject: [icecast] common problem
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asep sunandar wrote:
> hallo ,
> I already install icecast with rpm and it's fine 
> but when I try to run default configuration
> /etc/icecast.xml ,I have find some error ,this is my
> error 
> --
> Changed groupid to 500.
> Changed userid to 500.
> FATAL: could not open error logging
> FATAL: could not open access logging
> FATAL: Could not start logging
> --
> I change user and group with some user ,the default
> configuration is like this in attachment ..

The problem is that the user 'sunandar' cannot read or write to files in 
the directory listed in your config.

Of course, those directories need to exist to be used as well, check and 
make sure, then:

(as root)
chown sunandar.sunandar /usr/var/log/icecast \
        /usr/share/icecast/web \
        /usr/share/icecast/admin \
        /usr/share/icecast/

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From djsnm at djsnm.com  Fri Jan 30 19:09:48 2004
From: djsnm at djsnm.com (Scott Manley)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:09:48 -0800
Subject: [icecast] XMMS with liveice-xmms plugin
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It is possible to use the ESD mode of liveice if you're using ESD with 
XMMS - that's onther mode which works.

> Kevin,
> use the liveice-xmms plugin for xmms (not just liveice).
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:36:37 -0600, Kevin White wrote
> 
>>Am I making the right assumptions....  I run icecast and then only 
>>need to run xmms with the plug in enabled to stream to the net.... 
>>Or do I need to run LiveIce as well???
>>
>>When I try running liveice and xmms together xmms locks up.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Kevin
>>
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 30 19:47:28 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:47:28 -0600
Subject: [icecast] new utility - ezstream
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040130134209.01c3be90@www.oddsock.org>



Just wanted to let everyone know that I've released a new streaming utility 
called (appropriately enough) ezstream.

ezstream will read in mp3/vorbis files and send them (without reencoding) 
to an icecast2 server.  It can also take in input from stdin.  We used to 
have a utility like this (called shout) but shout had horrible timing 
issues and didn't work well at all.  This version uses the latest 
libshout2, and also (due to it's simple nature) works as a command line 
utility under both unix and windows.

I wrote it to give people a nice easy utility for creating mounts that can 
be used as fallbacks (ezstream can be used to send a loop stream of a 
single mp3 or vorbis file which can be used as a fallback mountpoint)...and 
since it doesn't do reencoding it can be run on the server without much CPU 
time requirements.

hopefully you'll find it to be useful.

and you may be asking yourself.."Doesn't ices do this ?"..well yes, but 
ices doesn't read mp3s and has very little hope in being ported to win32. :)

try it here : http://www.icecast.org/files/ezstream-0.1.0.tar.gz

oddsock

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From ross at stationplaylist.com  Fri Jan 30 21:07:00 2004
From: ross at stationplaylist.com (Ross Levis)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:07:00 +1300
Subject: [icecast] new utility - ezstream
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Thanks for your work on this oddsock.  It's a major feature that's been
missing from the Win32 environment.  I presume you will be offering a Win32
binary on your site at some stage.

Regards,
Ross Levis
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Subject: [icecast] new utility - ezstream

<p>> Just wanted to let everyone know that I've released a new streaming
utility
> called (appropriately enough) ezstream.
>
> ezstream will read in mp3/vorbis files and send them (without reencoding)
> to an icecast2 server.  It can also take in input from stdin.  We used to
> have a utility like this (called shout) but shout had horrible timing
> issues and didn't work well at all.  This version uses the latest
> libshout2, and also (due to it's simple nature) works as a command line
> utility under both unix and windows.
>
> I wrote it to give people a nice easy utility for creating mounts that can
> be used as fallbacks (ezstream can be used to send a loop stream of a
> single mp3 or vorbis file which can be used as a fallback
mountpoint)...and
> since it doesn't do reencoding it can be run on the server without much
CPU
> time requirements.
>
> hopefully you'll find it to be useful.
>
> and you may be asking yourself.."Doesn't ices do this ?"..well yes, but
> ices doesn't read mp3s and has very little hope in being ported to win32.
:)
>
> try it here : http://www.icecast.org/files/ezstream-0.1.0.tar.gz
>
> oddsock
>
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Jan 30 21:27:20 2004
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:27:20 -0600
Subject: [icecast] new utility - ezstream
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At 03:07 PM 1/30/2004, you wrote:
>Thanks for your work on this oddsock.  It's a major feature that's been
>missing from the Win32 environment.  I presume you will be offering a Win32
>binary on your site at some stage.

why sure! http://www.icecast.org:8082/files/ezstream_win32_0.1.0_setup.exe

also, a note of mention, reading from stdin seems to be broken on win32, 
but works very well on unix...but hey, this is a first revision :)

oddsock 

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From marco at ormgas.com  Fri Jan 30 23:28:05 2004
From: marco at ormgas.com (Marco Alanen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:28:05 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Admin headaches
Message-ID: <401AE885.9080200@ormgas.com>



Greetings

I just migrated from a Debian install to a Gentoo install, and I'm 
having some issues getting the admin page to work.
I have setup the acl policy and hosts.allowed the same way as on
the Debian box, but I can't figure out how to use the *.aut files.
When I try to connect to the admin page, I get this:

[31/Jan/2004:00:12:03] [11:Connection Handler] No mountfile found, 
refusing access to WWW admin for phoenix

But I do have a mounts.aut in /etc/icecast.
Is there any way to fix this, or any way to go back to the old way of 
handling admin access (just acl policy and hosts.allow)?

And another weird thing. I can't telnet to localhost:8000 on the icecast 
computer, but telnetting to 126.1.120.140:8000 (its' IP) works just 
fine. Don't know if it's an icecast issue or if I've done some other 
mistake in the system setup.

  Thank you /Marco


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From matt at sv.net.au  Sat Jan 31 10:57:23 2004
From: matt at sv.net.au (Matt Trim)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:57:23 +1000
Subject: [icecast] new utility - ezstream
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Hi Oddsock,

Great news! Looks good!

Could you please give an example of using it with stdin under linux ?

For example, how could I pipe an MP3 stream from a live encoder into
ezstream with stdin?

Cheers,

Matt

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