[icecast] bit/bytes

MacSym macsym69 at yahoo.fr
Sun Feb 29 13:55:06 PST 2004



Hi Oddsock,

Like Clement, I am sure Nullsoft is still "offering" AOL's bandwidth since I
think Nullsoft is not part of AOL anymore. About the new broadcasting
methods, is the multicast technology already available? I have heard only
few providers are equipped with multicast enabled routers. What about p2p
streaming, is it really reliable? When I see Peercast's statistics, only few
stations have more than 10 listeners currently connected... Do you think p2p
streaming could support an "unlimited" number of listeners or is it only a
utopia? Anyway, I am not sure many listeners would be attracted by p2p
streaming until a reliable Applet is available. I mean, I know only few
users that are ready to install additional software to listen to online
music.
Does anyone know about such an open source Applet or ActiveX? I know
www.chaincast.com is selling such a solution but it's only targeted to
windows users because it's an ActiveX that streams WMA...

Cheers,

MAX

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From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
Clement Cavadore
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:38 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: RE: [icecast] bit/bytes

Le dim 29/02/2004 à 17:27, oddsock a écrit :
> for most stations that have this kind of listener capacity, they are 
> getting bandwidth from AOL/Nullsoft.  Nullsoft had (may still have) a 
> policy of offering free bandwith to stations they hand-picked.  They 
> were tapping into the rather huge amount of bandwidth that AOL had, and 
> thus could offer the kind of listener capacity you are seeing.  

I don't think they still have this policy... since they don't reply to
my E-mails... maybe one day, who knows.... :)

> Alternatively, many stations also operate on bandwith donations (people 
> offering relays because they like the station)....I'd say most (if not 
> all) stations that have high listener capacity are operating using one 
> of these two mechanisms.

I dont't think there are many stations who are able to pay for so much
bandwidth... in our case (Frequence3, see below), we rely on bw
donation... but it's quite hard to get some, because of the prices, so
we should go and try to use new broadcasting methods (multicast, or
oggvorbis)...

<p>Greets,


-- 
Clément Cavadore
www.frequence3.org
Webradio Francophone

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