[icecast] MP3 MetaData in WMP and RealOne

MacSym macsym69 at yahoo.fr
Thu Apr 8 08:31:02 PDT 2004



Stephan,

I just checked it:

- BEK_dns runs Icecast2-Beta2
- Radio Alcanzando Naciones runs Icecast 2.0.0

Cheers,

MAX

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
MacSym
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:14 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: RE: [icecast] MP3 MetaData in WMP and RealOne

Hi Stephan,

I am talking about the meta-data: Artist - Song. It's weird because you are
the second person on the list who doesn't get it working in Real... I just
tried again with "BEK_dns" and "Radio Alcanzando Naciones" the 2 first MP3
radios I found in the stream directory and everything worked perfectly for
Real (but not for WMP).

In RealPlayer, I clicked HELP->About RealPlayer to check my version: it's
the "version 10.0, Beta Build 6.0.12.687"

Now I don't know if BEK_dns and Radio Alcanzando Naciones run on Icecast1 or
Icecast2.

Cheers,

MAX

<p><p>-----Original Message-----
From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
Stefan Neufeind
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:34 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Cc: MacSym
Subject: RE: [icecast] MP3 MetaData in WMP and RealOne

Did you really see meta-data? Or did it show data from the playlist-
file? Or did you see the data (name and genre) provided in the http-
header upon connect?

E.g.:
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-
playlist.pls?rn=4219&file=filename.pls

Shows "CLUB 977 The 80s Channel (HIGH BANDWIDTH)" in WinAmp. But this 
is due to the "title" set in the .pls and/or provided in the http-
header.

When I open http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1040 directly in WMP 9, it 
also shows the station-name provided by "icy-name" in the header and 
the genre without problems, it seems.

So WinAmp seems to have general icy-support. But maybe it doesn't 
support updates sent in the data-stream but just information provided 
in the http-header?

<p>Max, would really appreciate if you could tell us a reproducable URL 
where you see metadata actually working.

  Stefan

On 8 Apr 2004 at 12:50, MacSym wrote:

> It works with Peercast because Peercast receives the headers from Icecast2
> and sends its own headers back to the client (Winamp, WMP, Real...).
> Remember that Peercast is a client AND a server... I guess Peercast
doesn't
> send back the headers in the same way than Icecast2. Maybe Peercast
doesn't
> use ICY/X-audiocast.
> 
> Talking about Real (v9.0 and 10), I already got the metadata displayed
from
> Icecast but I didn't check if the server I was listening to was Icecast1
or
> Icecast2.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
> Stefan Neufeind
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Cc: Allan
> Subject: Re: [icecast] MP3 MetaData in WMP and RealOne
> 
> Maybe it works with WinAmp because peercast is received via a plugin 
> that supports this?
> 
> http://www.peercast.org/download.php
> WinAmp 2.x/5.x:
> - Self-extracting installer
> - Installs WinAmp plugin client
> - Enables peercast:// links
> - Free. No adware/spyware
> 
> Allan, I assume you have a plugin installed for listening to 
> peercast?
> 
>   Stefan
> 
> On 7 Apr 2004 at 21:21, oddsock wrote:
> 
> > At 08:30 PM 4/7/2004, you wrote:
> > >On Thursday 08 April 2004 01:40, Allan wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me how to get Metadata (Artist & Title) to display
in
> WMP
> > > > and RealOne
> > > >
> > > > It seems to work in WinAMP5 and if a rebroadcast the stream via
> PeerCast
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im using SAM2 and Icecast2
> > > >
> > >
> > >They should just work if the clients (wmp, real) have support for the 
> > >metadata
> > >- and since you say that it works if you rebroadcast via peercast, this
> > >suggests that they _do_ have support.
> > 
> > WMP does not support shoutcast-style metadata....definately not.  And
I'd 
> > be REAL (pun intended) suprised  if Helix/Real supported it.
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