From hiren_hindocha at comcast.net Tue Sep 2 18:35:20 2003
From: hiren_hindocha at comcast.net (Hirendra Hindocha)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:35:20 -0700
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
Message-ID: <20030902183518.GB13833@tivo.hindomin.com>
Hello,
I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
Regards,
--
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From wim.dehul at skynet.be Tue Sep 2 19:05:49 2003
From: wim.dehul at skynet.be (Wim)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:05:49 +0200
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
Message-ID: <1062529549.967.15.camel@homer.home.net>
Hi all!
I installed icecast & ices (from CVS)
Enerything runs, but with some problems:
When I connect to the server (with XMMS or MPlayer)
the buffer runs empty very quickly, causing interruptions.
My "server" is an old Pentium 120 with 64MB RAM ,a HD of 8G and an
ethernet NIC.
(I know it isn't much, but I'm tired of taking my CD collection to
work.) I ripped the tracks in OGG format at 56kbps 22050 Hz Samplerate.
my partial ices config:
560002
this is my CPU-load on the server:
21:05:19 up 1 day, 23:00, 2 users, load average: 1.07, 0.78, 0.60
47 processes: 45 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 97.1% user, 2.9% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle
Mem: 62348K total, 55912K used, 6436K free, 17900K buffers
Swap: 124988K total, 0K used, 124988K free, 20208K cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
1668 root 13 0 6096 6096 1180 R 95.4 9.7 6:00 ices
1660 wim 6 0 944 944 748 R 3.0 1.5 0:14 top
1598 wim 0 0 1976 1976 1800 S 0.9 3.1 0:11 sshd
1669 icecast 0 0 1864 1864 1320 S 0.3 2.9 0:00 icecast
Some hints?
Thanx a lot!
Wim
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From karl at xiph.org Tue Sep 2 19:22:56 2003
From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes)
Date: 02 Sep 2003 20:22:56 +0100
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
In-Reply-To: <1062529549.967.15.camel@homer.home.net>
Message-ID: <1062530575.19339.5.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:05, Wim wrote:
> my partial ices config:
>
>
> 56000
>
>
> 2
>
try using the quality tags instead of nominal-bitrate as that currently
implies the managed mode which is more CPU hungry. The quality value
will depend on the samplerate but at 44.1khz try -0.5
karl.
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From chrisg1 at umbc.edu Tue Sep 2 23:48:09 2003
From: chrisg1 at umbc.edu (chrisg1 at umbc.edu)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:48:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <20030902183518.GB13833@tivo.hindomin.com>
Message-ID: <1102.68.82.62.249.1062546489.squirrel@webmail.umbc.edu>
Are you talking about the client-side, or the server-side?
Any client listening to an Icecast/Shoutcast stream cannot seek, rewind,
or do more than just listen at the typical rate.
Hirendra Hindocha said:
> Hello,
>
> I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
> winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
> there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
> forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
>
>
> Regards,
> --
> Hiren
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From msmith at xiph.org Wed Sep 3 02:16:53 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:16:53 +1000
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <20030902183518.GB13833@tivo.hindomin.com>
Message-ID: <200309031216.54004.msmith@xiph.org>
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 04:35, Hirendra Hindocha wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
> winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
> there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
> forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
Mike
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From msmith at xiph.org Wed Sep 3 02:21:57 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:21:57 +1000
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
In-Reply-To: <1062529549.967.15.camel@homer.home.net>
Message-ID: <200309031221.57232.msmith@xiph.org>
> My "server" is an old Pentium 120 with 64MB RAM ,a HD of 8G and an
> ethernet NIC.
> (I know it isn't much, but I'm tired of taking my CD collection to
> work.) I ripped the tracks in OGG format at 56kbps 22050 Hz Samplerate.
>
> my partial ices config:
>
>
> 56000
>
>
> 2
>
You will not be able to do realtime encoding in managed bitrate modes on
hardware that slow.
You could try a quality-based mode, or (since your audio is already 56 kbps),
you could try NOT re-encoding it.
Mike
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From wdh at belbone.be Wed Sep 3 09:05:23 2003
From: wdh at belbone.be (Wim)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:05:23 +0200
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
In-Reply-To: <200309031221.57232.msmith@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <1062579922.4820.12.camel@tyr.car.belbone.be>
Hi,
Thanx, switching re-encoding off, helped me a lot...
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 04:21, Michael Smith wrote:
<*SNIP*>
> You could try a quality-based mode, or (since your audio is already 56 kbps),
> you could try NOT re-encoding it.
>
> Mike
>
>
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From pdl at sindominio.net Wed Sep 3 09:08:55 2003
From: pdl at sindominio.net (Pau)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:08:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
In-Reply-To: <1062530575.19339.5.camel@bogus.hackers.club>
Message-ID: <61304.217.126.114.174.1062580135.squirrel@sindominio.net>
> try using the quality tags instead of nominal-bitrate as that currently
> implies the managed mode which is more CPU hungry. The quality value
> will depend on the samplerate but at 44.1khz try -0.5
exists anywhere some complete icecast (not ices) tag list ? Sometimes I'm
confused with ices and icecast tags, and I don't know if both uses the
same tags, or not.
thanks.
pau.
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From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Sep 3 09:19:26 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 19:19:26 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
In-Reply-To: <61304.217.126.114.174.1062580135.squirrel@sindominio.net>
Message-ID:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Pau wrote:
> exists anywhere some complete icecast (not ices) tag list ? Sometimes I'm
> confused with ices and icecast tags, and I don't know if both uses the
> same tags, or not.
Probably the source code. Certainly anything to do with encoding or
transmitting a stream would be in ices.
Geoff.
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From pdl at sindominio.net Wed Sep 3 09:40:57 2003
From: pdl at sindominio.net (Pau)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:40:57 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] bad buffering
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> Probably the source code. Certainly anything to do with encoding or
> transmitting a stream would be in ices.
yes, I'm searching for them...
Actually I'm using darkice to encode in a mp3 format and send it to an
icecast2 server. And its works (with a lot of noise, at the moment, but
works ;)).
bye.
pau
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From hiren_hindocha at comcast.net Wed Sep 3 17:08:35 2003
From: hiren_hindocha at comcast.net (Hirendra Hindocha)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:08:35 -0700
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <200309031216.54004.msmith@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <20030903170835.GA7374@tivo.hindomin.com>
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:16:53PM +1000, Michael Smith wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 September 2003 04:35, Hirendra Hindocha wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
> > winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
> > there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
> > forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
>
>
> No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
>
Good point. I wonder how the other servers (Real Server ,Quicktime etc) do it.
Any inputs on any other streaming servers that lets a client
seek/fast forward /rewind ?
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From fudge at planetarion.com Wed Sep 3 21:58:51 2003
From: fudge at planetarion.com (Erlend Simonsen)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 23:58:51 +0200
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <20030903170835.GA7374@tivo.hindomin.com>
Message-ID: <86k78pa604.fsf@fudge.sytes.net>
Hirendra Hindocha writes:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:16:53PM +1000, Michael Smith wrote:
>> On Wednesday 03 September 2003 04:35, Hirendra Hindocha wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
>> > winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
>> > there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
>> > forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
>>
>>
>> No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
>>
>
> Good point. I wonder how the other servers (Real Server ,Quicktime etc) do it.
> Any inputs on any other streaming servers that lets a client
> seek/fast forward /rewind ?
They probably do it client side by buffring the stream.
Fudge
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From kevinp at kplug.org Wed Sep 3 22:20:36 2003
From: kevinp at kplug.org (W. Kevin Pedigo)
Date: 03 Sep 2003 22:20:36 +0000
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <86k78pa604.fsf@fudge.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <1062627636.6513.90.camel@yeti.erebus.pri>
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 21:58, Erlend Simonsen wrote:
> Hirendra Hindocha writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
> >>
> >
> > Good point. I wonder how the other servers (Real Server ,Quicktime etc) do it.
> > Any inputs on any other streaming servers that lets a client
> > seek/fast forward /rewind ?
>
> They probably do it client side by buffring the stream.
No, they do it using RTSP methods, which inherantly contain the correct
"time" for the frame. By requesting a specific "time", you get a the
frames that correspong, thus you can seek without relying on client side
buffering. Note that not all QuickTime or RealMedia files are served by
proper streaming servers. You need two things for server side
seeking.... a seekable source, and a seek-aware protocol. If all you
want to do is get the file to the client, HTTP works just fine. And
while the file, when it arrives, will be seekable, HTTP doesn't
understand seeking, so downloading quicktime files off an HREF from a
web page doesn't get you all the cool goodies that RealServer or the
Darwin Streaming Server get you. Which is why they invented the "embed"
tag.
Make sense?
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From djsnm at djsnm.com Wed Sep 3 22:43:27 2003
From: djsnm at djsnm.com (Scott Manley)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:43:27 -0700
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <1062627636.6513.90.camel@yeti.erebus.pri>
Message-ID: <3F566E8F.2000303@djsnm.com>
You know winamp does support seeking on HTTP connections via the Range:
header, of course it relies on the client figuring out how the byte
offset corresponds to the time offset, which is easy for CBR files, but
not for VBR files. And winamp sometimes gets confused with some
streaming servers and keeps trying to seek when it doesn't need to.
>
> No, they do it using RTSP methods, which inherantly contain the correct
> "time" for the frame. By requesting a specific "time", you get a the
> frames that correspong, thus you can seek without relying on client side
> buffering. Note that not all QuickTime or RealMedia files are served by
> proper streaming servers. You need two things for server side
> seeking.... a seekable source, and a seek-aware protocol. If all you
> want to do is get the file to the client, HTTP works just fine. And
> while the file, when it arrives, will be seekable, HTTP doesn't
> understand seeking, so downloading quicktime files off an HREF from a
> web page doesn't get you all the cool goodies that RealServer or the
> Darwin Streaming Server get you. Which is why they invented the "embed"
> tag.
>
> Make sense?
>
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From kevinp at kplug.org Wed Sep 3 22:48:31 2003
From: kevinp at kplug.org (W. Kevin Pedigo)
Date: 03 Sep 2003 22:48:31 +0000
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
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Message-ID: <1062629311.858.100.camel@yeti.erebus.pri>
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:43, Scott Manley wrote:
> You know winamp does support seeking on HTTP connections via the Range:
> header, of course it relies on the client figuring out how the byte
> offset corresponds to the time offset, which is easy for CBR files, but
> not for VBR files. And winamp sometimes gets confused with some
> streaming servers and keeps trying to seek when it doesn't need to.
Yes, of course there are fringe cases, and you make a good point. I was
just trying to get the basic idea across without saying things like "RFC
2616 Section 14.35 in contrast to the format described in RFC 2326
Section 3.7" and may have oversimplified there...
Oh the shame.....
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From stauf at freshcheese.net Thu Sep 4 01:12:42 2003
From: stauf at freshcheese.net (Mr. Stauf)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 19:12:42 -0600
Subject: [icecast] A quesetion regarding ices2.
Message-ID: <20030904011242.GA30026@freshcheese.net>
Hello everyone!
Thank you for all the improvements in the icecast server and different clients.
After playing with some php, I am back to were I need to be. But I have one
odd little problem.
I am using ices-2.0-beta2-20030827 and when I use the option to save the file
to the local harddrive to later allow users to download it, I have an odd
problem.
XMMS can listen to the file just fine. Which is odd because my problems are
usually in just the opposite direction.
When someone downloads the ogg generated by ices2 and tries to play it on
winamp 2.91 (Could be all win amps, I have foreced everyone to upgrade that lisetens... ;), it says the name of the file, but WILL not play it. The only
way I can get the file to be playable to everyone and their cat is to use
ogg123 -d wav and then use oggenc to re-enocde the file. And then file is
great and everyone can listen to the file. But this degrades the quality
of the file somewhat and only adds to my list of things to do. :1
So I am most likely missing something somewhere that is probably a simple tag. If anyone would like my .xml file for my show, I will send it to you.
Also, remember liveice and that neat little ### composed volume level that it
showed when you were broadcasting? What header or library do I need to read from to do the same thing?
Again, I am grateful for all the work everyone puts into the xiph projects,
and I hope everyone who is involved realizes that.
--Stauf
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From msmith at xiph.org Thu Sep 4 01:38:47 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:38:47 +1000
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <20030903170835.GA7374@tivo.hindomin.com>
Message-ID: <200309041138.47410.msmith@xiph.org>
On Thursday 04 September 2003 03:08, Hirendra Hindocha wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:16:53PM +1000, Michael Smith wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 September 2003 04:35, Hirendra Hindocha wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have an icecast2 server streaming some mp3 files and am using
> > > winamp to listen to the stream, however I couldn't figure out if
> > > there is a way to seek or rewind. Is there a way to seek/fast
> > > forward/rewind/pause using icecast2 ?
> >
> > No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
>
> Good point. I wonder how the other servers (Real Server ,Quicktime etc) do
> it. Any inputs on any other streaming servers that lets a client
> seek/fast forward /rewind ?
They're more generalised servers. In the mode where they allow seeking,
they're definately _not_ doing 'streaming' in the normal sense of the term.
icecast2 could do the same, but it's of pretty limited use, and there's a fair
bit of code required to do it.
Mike
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From msmith at xiph.org Thu Sep 4 01:41:34 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 11:41:34 +1000
Subject: [icecast] seek, pause etc using icecast ?
In-Reply-To: <1062627636.6513.90.camel@yeti.erebus.pri>
Message-ID: <200309041141.34037.msmith@xiph.org>
On Thursday 04 September 2003 08:20, W. Kevin Pedigo wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 21:58, Erlend Simonsen wrote:
> > Hirendra Hindocha writes:
> > >> No. icecast2 is a streaming server, so it... streams.
> > >
> > > Good point. I wonder how the other servers (Real Server ,Quicktime etc)
> > > do it. Any inputs on any other streaming servers that lets a client
> > > seek/fast forward /rewind ?
> >
> > They probably do it client side by buffring the stream.
>
> No, they do it using RTSP methods, which inherantly contain the correct
> "time" for the frame. By requesting a specific "time", you get a the
> frames that correspong, thus you can seek without relying on client side
> buffering. Note that not all QuickTime or RealMedia files are served by
> proper streaming servers. You need two things for server side
> seeking.... a seekable source, and a seek-aware protocol. If all you
> want to do is get the file to the client, HTTP works just fine. And
> while the file, when it arrives, will be seekable, HTTP doesn't
> understand seeking, so downloading quicktime files off an HREF from a
> web page doesn't get you all the cool goodies that RealServer or the
> Darwin Streaming Server get you. Which is why they invented the "embed"
> tag.
>
Well, this is mostly right... but seeking with HTTP is entirely possible
However, you have to build it up from byte-range 'seek' requests, not using a
time-offset. This makes doing it efficiently quite difficult.
That's what the Range header is for.
See also http://www.annodex.net/TR/uri_fragments.html for an internet-draft
attempting to specify a media-and-transport-neutral way of specifying this
sort of thing. I think they have an apache module implementing it as a
proof-of-concept.
Mike
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From stauf at freshcheese.net Sat Sep 6 10:22:07 2003
From: stauf at freshcheese.net (Mr. Stauf)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:22:07 -0600
Subject: [icecast] One more question of possible note.
Message-ID: <20030906102124.GE2579@freshcheese.net>
Hello again all.
I want to thank Karl H. for pointing me to xiph.org/~karl and getting me
some save files winamp likes the first time. That ucler is at an end.
The next ucler involves two rather quick questions:
I > In icecast1, when a user attempted to connect to the server, didn't it
just kick them to the "default stream", where the default stream was the only
stream being streamed to the server? Does icecast2 have that functionality?
II> When relaying a stream, the icecast.xml states you have to know prehand
what that stream's mount point is going to be. The reason being is because
it uses a GET to grab the stream. Is there a simple way to relay from a machine
based on the first questions "only playing stream" idea?
*I have some horribly kludgy ideas on how to do such things with kill -hups
and crontab and "does this .m3u file exist" conditionals, but I'm hoping I am
missing something in the .xml config itself.*
Keep up the good work gentlemen.
--Stauf
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From minus273point16c at fastmail.fm Sun Sep 7 18:17:17 2003
From: minus273point16c at fastmail.fm (Luke Stodola)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 14:17:17 -0400
Subject: [icecast] One more question of possible note.
In-Reply-To: <20030906102124.GE2579@freshcheese.net>
Message-ID: <3F5B762D.6020405@fastmail.fm>
Mr. Stauf wrote:
>Hello again all.
>I want to thank Karl H. for pointing me to xiph.org/~karl and getting me
>some save files winamp likes the first time. That ucler is at an end.
>The next ucler involves two rather quick questions:
>I > In icecast1, when a user attempted to connect to the server, didn't it
>just kick them to the "default stream", where the default stream was the only
>stream being streamed to the server? Does icecast2 have that functionality?
>II> When relaying a stream, the icecast.xml states you have to know prehand
>what that stream's mount point is going to be. The reason being is because
>it uses a GET to grab the stream. Is there a simple way to relay from a machine
>based on the first questions "only playing stream" idea?
>
I believe you can use the section to relay a whole server, and
if that is just one stream, you just get that stream.
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From loloviolo at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 13:57:20 2003
From: loloviolo at hotmail.com (LoLo VioLo)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:57:20 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
Message-ID:
Hi all,
I am trying to understand how to configure Icecast2 & ices0.3 to perform a
live MP3 streaming.
Here are my Icecast2 and Ices0.3 conf files.
Works fine with playlist but got a "Login Failed error" with live conf file.
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From konny at waitrose.com Mon Sep 8 16:10:32 2003
From: konny at waitrose.com (Mr I)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:10:32 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] error: Login failed
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <3F5CA9F8.3070700@waitrose.com>
Geoff Shang wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Brendan Cully wrote:
>
>
>
>>ices 0.3 doesn't know about user names, only passwords. So you could
>>remove or comment out the entire mount section in your icecast.xml.
>>
>>
>
>hmmm. This seems to come up again and again. I'dve have thought the
>comments in the icecast config would be enough to avoid this, but
>apparently not. Anyone got any ideas?
>
>
>
Yes. Comment out the mount option.
Its more lightly that most beginners don't want / know about this
function and just require a single mount point in any case..
K
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From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Sep 9 01:02:41 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:02:41 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Hi:
hmmm, I didn't know ices 0.3 could do live stuff. Cool. Anyway, after
taking a quick look at it, it would seem clear to me that you would have to
use re-encoding as it's not sending pre-encoded MP3 data.
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From loloviolo at hotmail.com Tue Sep 9 09:18:45 2003
From: loloviolo at hotmail.com (LoLoVioLo )
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:18:45 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <014001c376b3$5edf6c70$a0c269c0@Tablet>
I am still not sure that it is possible ... I can't make it work :-(
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Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
Hi:
hmmm, I didn't know ices 0.3 could do live stuff. Cool. Anyway, after
taking a quick look at it, it would seem clear to me that you would have
to
use re-encoding as it's not sending pre-encoded MP3 data.
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From drew at drewb.com Tue Sep 9 09:34:26 2003
From: drew at drewb.com (Drew Bertola)
Date: 09 Sep 2003 02:34:26 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
In-Reply-To: <014001c376b3$5edf6c70$a0c269c0@Tablet>
Message-ID: <1063100066.15348.18.camel@champ.serialhacker.net>
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 02:18, LoLoVioLo wrote:
> I am still not sure that it is possible ... I can't make it work :-(
I wasn't aware that ices could generate a live mp3 encoded stream. I
had little trouble setting up to do an ogg stream. For mp3 streaming, I
used darkice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf
> Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:03 AM
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
>
> Hi:
>
> hmmm, I didn't know ices 0.3 could do live stuff. Cool. Anyway, after
> taking a quick look at it, it would seem clear to me that you would have
> to
> use re-encoding as it's not sending pre-encoded MP3 data.
>
> Geoff.
>
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From sonnik at cox.net Tue Sep 9 11:25:08 2003
From: sonnik at cox.net (sonnik)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 04:25:08 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
Message-ID: <000001c376c5$0689b9b0$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
I'm trying to set up a live stream originating from line-in on my
soundcard.
I'm attempting to use Icecast2 and Ices2. I've been up and down the
configuration. I switched from the line-in method to using .ogg files
as source. These .ogg files play find independent of Ices2/Icecast2.
Ices2 and Icecast2 are running on the same Redhat 9 machine.
In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a 200
with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
passwords).
Attached are my config files (ices.xml = line-in config, beck.xml = ogg
playlist) and the log files.
Any help would be appreciated, I've been looking all over for
documentation that addresses this problem.
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From brendan at xiph.org Tue Sep 9 11:37:22 2003
From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 07:37:22 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 & ices0.3 live MP3 streaming
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20030909113722.GA406@watanabe.kublai.com>
On Tuesday, 09 September 2003 at 11:02, Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
>
> hmmm, I didn't know ices 0.3 could do live stuff. Cool.
Unfortunately, it can't. The config file should have generated errors,
I will investigate.
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From pdl at sindominio.net Tue Sep 9 12:09:14 2003
From: pdl at sindominio.net (pau)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:09:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
In-Reply-To: <000001c376c5$0689b9b0$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
Message-ID: <61676.217.126.114.174.1063109354.squirrel@sindominio.net>
sonnik va dir:
> I'm trying to set up a live stream originating from line-in on my
> soundcard.
>
>
> In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a 200
> with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
> that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
> passwords).
It seems that you are sending all the information to the server, but not
the audio. look at the /etc/aumixrc file (or similar, I don't know where
is in a redhat). You must have the line-in to Record.
try with: aumix -l R
The aumix program is a mixer that controls the volume, lines in/out , etc.
Perhaps you are using another one, but the idea is the same.
bye,
pau.
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From sonnik at cox.net Tue Sep 9 13:11:07 2003
From: sonnik at cox.net (sonnik at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 9:11:07 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Re: Looks good on server, no audio on client.
Message-ID: <20030909131107.DSNN21752.fed1mtao04.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
(See earlier post with same subject, wasn't able to reply)
I have used aumix to verify my record settings. Shouldn't trying to use a static .ogg playlist as my source rule out any soundcard issues? Ices2 doesn't "play" the files, it essentially transcodes them, correct?
(Live Line-in) or (static ogg playlist) = No sound on client.
But the logs show data transferred...
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From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Sep 9 14:36:03 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:36:03 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
In-Reply-To: <000001c376c5$0689b9b0$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, sonnik wrote:
> In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a 200
> with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
> that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
> passwords).
Let me guess. You're using Winamp 3.x and it continually rebuffers?
Winamp 3 is broken with regard to ogg streaming. It is also discontinued.
Get 2.95 (I think that's the latest release). You may need to go to
http://classic.winamp.com to get this, even though it's the only current
release at the moment.
Geoff.
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From stauf at freshcheese.net Tue Sep 9 16:31:58 2003
From: stauf at freshcheese.net (Mr. Stauf)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:31:58 -0600
Subject: [icecast] One more question of possible note.
In-Reply-To: <3F5B762D.6020405@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <20030909163158.GA1918@freshcheese.net>
Okay then, let me fire away two more questions:
1> Is there any written docs on relaying with the newest icecast2?
2> Since the icecast2 server that will be broadcasting the relay stream users
an http GET request, how often does it check to see if a mountpoint lives
or not? Where is a value to change that?
So I should just put in s for all my possible mount points then?
--Stauf
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 02:17:17PM -0400, Luke Stodola wrote:
> Mr. Stauf wrote:
>
> >Hello again all.
> >I want to thank Karl H. for pointing me to xiph.org/~karl and getting me
> >some save files winamp likes the first time. That ucler is at an end.
> >The next ucler involves two rather quick questions:
> >I > In icecast1, when a user attempted to connect to the server, didn't it
> >just kick them to the "default stream", where the default stream was the
> >only
> >stream being streamed to the server? Does icecast2 have that
> >functionality?
> >II> When relaying a stream, the icecast.xml states you have to know prehand
> >what that stream's mount point is going to be. The reason being is because
> >it uses a GET to grab the stream. Is there a simple way to relay from a
> >machine
> >based on the first questions "only playing stream" idea?
> >
> I believe you can use the section to relay a whole server, and
> if that is just one stream, you just get that stream.
>
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From xavier909 at free.fr Tue Sep 9 22:30:30 2003
From: xavier909 at free.fr (Xavier)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:30:30 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Problem with clients trying to connect trough a proxy
Message-ID:
Hi all,
I've just installed icecast2 and ices2 on a RH 8.0 box.
It works perfectly well when I try to listen to the stream from home (DSL
connection) with winamp 2.91. However, when I try to connect from my
university (connection through a proxy server), I can't connect to the
icecast server (even though I configured the proxy server in
options->preferences->setup). The problem doesn't come from Winamp since I
can listen to other streams.
Is there something I should specify in icecast.xml or anything I should do
to fix the problem ?
Thanks in advance for your help,
xavier
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From sonnik at cox.net Tue Sep 9 22:33:20 2003
From: sonnik at cox.net (sonnik)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:33:20 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <000201c37722$5f08ee00$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
Well yeah I was. Tried winamp2, and it got rid of a sporadic
"prebuffering done" message I was having (I Had fixed this by manually
adjusting a prebuffer size within Winamp.
I also tried Zinf this morning. In Zinf, I am getting a message stating
that the data is corrupted...?
I watch my verbose output from Ices, and it's queuing the new song at
the appropriate times (one song is 3.5 minutes, the other is 12). So
I'm going to assume Ices is good.
I've built Icecast from source twice, and it appears to go okay. I
didn't get any catastrophic errors during the build.
If I shouldn't be seeing the "corrupted data" message in Zinf, what
could be wrong with my Icecast2?
If anyone has a chance, might they be able to review the error/access
log in my first message (in a slightly different thread).
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Subject: Re: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, sonnik wrote:
> In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a
200
> with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
> that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
> passwords).
Let me guess. You're using Winamp 3.x and it continually rebuffers?
Winamp 3 is broken with regard to ogg streaming. It is also
discontinued.
Get 2.95 (I think that's the latest release). You may need to go to
http://classic.winamp.com to get this, even though it's the only current
release at the moment.
Geoff.
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From msmith at xiph.org Wed Sep 10 00:33:07 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:33:07 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
In-Reply-To: <000001c376c5$0689b9b0$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
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> In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a 200
> with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
> that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
> passwords).
>
>
>
> Attached are my config files (ices.xml = line-in config, beck.xml = ogg
> playlist) and the log files.
You've hit a nasty winamp bug (some other clients have similar bugs, so it's
not _just_ winamp). Ensure your mountpoint ends in ".ogg" to work around it.
Mike
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From sonnik at cox.net Wed Sep 10 01:20:31 2003
From: sonnik at cox.net (sonnik)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
In-Reply-To: <200309101033.07026.msmith@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <000001c37739$ba596d90$6401a8c0@ZOO4XP>
Thanks for everyone's help so far...
Just to bring everyone up to date...
- With Winamp2, I seem to be stuck at "connecting..." My logs show a
perfect 59 bytes transferred with each connect. Set mountpoint to .ogg
extension also.
- My logs show various transfer sizes with other clients (depending on
how long I'm pseudo-connected.
- Using the Ices parameter, I can verify that Ices is
encoding both the static .ogg files (playlist) and a live line-in
stream.
>From that file, I'm quite impressed with the quality I may get if I get
Icecast2 working!
Right now, I'm leaning towards fault lying with my Icecast2 itself. I'm
going to triple check my compile and the umpteenth check of the
configuration/logs.
If anyone knows a sure-shot way of isolating Icecast2's reliability, let
me know.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:33 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] Looks good on server, no audio on client.
> In both cases, Winamp appears to connect, and the access log shows a
200
> with the data transfer size. The access log also leads me to believe
> that Ices2 is logging in properly (I'm still using the default
> passwords).
>
>
>
> Attached are my config files (ices.xml = line-in config, beck.xml =
ogg
> playlist) and the log files.
You've hit a nasty winamp bug (some other clients have similar bugs, so
it's
not _just_ winamp). Ensure your mountpoint ends in ".ogg" to work around
it.
Mike
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From fotang at yahoo.com Fri Sep 12 17:52:59 2003
From: fotang at yahoo.com (Tano M Fotang)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:52:59 +0100
Subject: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout
Message-ID: <3F6207FB.3080602@yahoo.com>
Hello All:
I just checked out the whole icecast but cannot build anything because
autogen wouldn't cooperate. I have automake-1.7.6 just installed from
ftp.gnu.org. Below is an example output in trying to build "icecast";
it's not very short... Thanks in advance for any help.
---
$~/icecast/icecast> ./autogen.sh
Checking for automake version
found automake
found aclocal
Generating configuration files for ices, please wait....
aclocal -I m4
aclocal: configure.in: 13: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
autoheader
autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
libtoolize --automake
automake --add-missing
configure.in: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found.
configure.in: You should verify that configure.in invokes AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE,
configure.in: that aclocal.m4 is present in the top-level directory,
configure.in: and that aclocal.m4 was recently regenerated (using aclocal).
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/avl/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/avl/Makefile.am:7:
src/avl/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/avl/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/httpp/Makefile.am:5:
src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/log/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/log/Makefile.am:7:
src/log/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/log/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/net/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/net/Makefile.am:7:
src/net/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/net/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/thread/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/thread/Makefile.am:7:
src/thread/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/thread/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
src/timing/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
src/timing/Makefile.am:7:
src/timing/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
`AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
src/timing/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
`autoconf' again.
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
/usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
AM_CONDITIONAL
autoconf
I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish
to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line.
./configure: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE: command not found
./configure: line 1283: syntax error near unexpected token
`AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
./configure: line 1283: `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
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From groups at mediacast1.com Fri Sep 12 19:00:08 2003
From: groups at mediacast1.com (Dave St John)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:00:08 -0600
Subject: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout
In-Reply-To: <3F6207FB.3080602@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00bd01c37960$17ffb080$6401a8c0@falcon>
i ran into the same issue yesterday.
i had to revert back to 1.6
here is the link to the exact file that helped me
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/automake/automake-1.6.tar.gz
then
tar -zxf automake-1.6.tar.gz; cd automake-1.6l; ./configure; make; make
install
Dave St John
CEO Mediacast1
www.mediacast1.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tano M Fotang"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout
> Hello All:
> I just checked out the whole icecast but cannot build anything because
> autogen wouldn't cooperate. I have automake-1.7.6 just installed from
> ftp.gnu.org. Below is an example output in trying to build "icecast";
> it's not very short... Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> ---
>
> $~/icecast/icecast> ./autogen.sh
> Checking for automake version
> found automake
> found aclocal
> Generating configuration files for ices, please wait....
> aclocal -I m4
> aclocal: configure.in: 13: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
> autoheader
> autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
> libtoolize --automake
> automake --add-missing
> configure.in: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found.
> configure.in: You should verify that configure.in invokes
AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE,
> configure.in: that aclocal.m4 is present in the top-level directory,
> configure.in: and that aclocal.m4 was recently regenerated (using
aclocal).
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7:
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5:
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/log/Makefile.am:7:
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/net/Makefile.am:7:
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7:
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7:
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> autoconf
> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish
> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line.
> ./configure: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE: command not found
> ./configure: line 1283: syntax error near unexpected token
> `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
> ./configure: line 1283: `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
>
>
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From groups at mediacast1.com Fri Sep 12 19:01:12 2003
From: groups at mediacast1.com (Dave St John)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:01:12 -0600
Subject: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout
In-Reply-To: <3F6207FB.3080602@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c101c37960$3c3c9350$6401a8c0@falcon>
Forgot to mention i had to grab the latest libshout from cvs as well.
you may want to grab that.
Dave St John
CEO Mediacast1
www.mediacast1.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tano M Fotang"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout
> Hello All:
> I just checked out the whole icecast but cannot build anything because
> autogen wouldn't cooperate. I have automake-1.7.6 just installed from
> ftp.gnu.org. Below is an example output in trying to build "icecast";
> it's not very short... Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> ---
>
> $~/icecast/icecast> ./autogen.sh
> Checking for automake version
> found automake
> found aclocal
> Generating configuration files for ices, please wait....
> aclocal -I m4
> aclocal: configure.in: 13: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
> autoheader
> autoheader: error: AC_CONFIG_HEADERS not found in configure.in
> libtoolize --automake
> automake --add-missing
> configure.in: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found.
> configure.in: You should verify that configure.in invokes
AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE,
> configure.in: that aclocal.m4 is present in the top-level directory,
> configure.in: and that aclocal.m4 was recently regenerated (using
aclocal).
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7:
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/avl/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5:
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/httpp/Makefile.am:5: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/log/Makefile.am:7:
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/log/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/net/Makefile.am:7:
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/net/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7:
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/thread/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7:
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add
> `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'
> src/timing/Makefile.am:7: to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and
> `autoconf' again.
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: am__fastdepCC does not
> appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
> /usr/local/share/automake-1.7/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in
> AM_CONDITIONAL
> autoconf
> I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish
> to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line.
> ./configure: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE: command not found
> ./configure: line 1283: syntax error near unexpected token
> `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
> ./configure: line 1283: `AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)'
>
>
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From jeofatima at yahoo.com Fri Sep 12 19:28:59 2003
From: jeofatima at yahoo.com (Jeff Ousley)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:28:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
Message-ID: <20030912192859.90809.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com>
Hello!
I'm extremely new at this so don't hurt me. I want to
stream CD content from my RedHat 9 box using icecast?
What is the best way to do this? I'm getting confused
with all the different pieces and configurations. Is
there a simple guide that discusses what I want to do?
thanks!
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From gshang at uq.net.au Fri Sep 12 20:39:52 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:39:52 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <20030912192859.90809.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
Hi:
Since icecast2 is still heading to an initial release, there's no official
guide for this stuff, but there is a bit of stuff out there.
First, lets clarify what you want to do. When you say "CD content", I
assume you mean audio CD's.
To provide a stream requires two parts - a source or streamer, and a
server. The source is equivalent to a radio studio, the server is
equivalent to the radio transmitter. These can either run on the same
machine or on seperate ones. the machine that runs the server is the one
that needs the required bandwidth to serve all the listeners you want to
accommodate. Icecast is the server software. The source software will
depend on what format you want to stream - MP3 or Ogg Vorbis. Ices2 will
do Ogg Vorbis and can input from the soundcard (requires libshout). Other
Linux source clients that come to mind are Darkice (does MP3 and Ogg
Vorbis) and the Oddcast plugin for XMMS (also does both MP3 and Ogg
Vorbis). I'm sure there are others I'm overlooking.
Kerry cox has written a rather comprehensive-looking unofficial howto which
you can read at http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Geoff.
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From kerry.cox at ksl.com Fri Sep 12 20:51:32 2003
From: kerry.cox at ksl.com (Kerry Cox)
Date: 12 Sep 2003 14:51:32 -0600
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <1063399892.9763.97.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
If you are interested in using icecast1, which I also run concurrently
with icecast2 for streaming KSL audio content, there is an older HowTo
at the following address:
http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/legacy/
Looks like it is in Star Office/Open Office format. If you need it
changed to a PDF file, I can do that pretty quicklu.
Hope that helps.
KJ
--
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Bonneville International
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:39, Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Since icecast2 is still heading to an initial release, there's no official
> guide for this stuff, but there is a bit of stuff out there.
>
> First, lets clarify what you want to do. When you say "CD content", I
> assume you mean audio CD's.
>
> To provide a stream requires two parts - a source or streamer, and a
> server. The source is equivalent to a radio studio, the server is
> equivalent to the radio transmitter. These can either run on the same
> machine or on seperate ones. the machine that runs the server is the one
> that needs the required bandwidth to serve all the listeners you want to
> accommodate. Icecast is the server software. The source software will
> depend on what format you want to stream - MP3 or Ogg Vorbis. Ices2 will
> do Ogg Vorbis and can input from the soundcard (requires libshout). Other
> Linux source clients that come to mind are Darkice (does MP3 and Ogg
> Vorbis) and the Oddcast plugin for XMMS (also does both MP3 and Ogg
> Vorbis). I'm sure there are others I'm overlooking.
>
> Kerry cox has written a rather comprehensive-looking unofficial howto which
> you can read at http://quasi.ksl.com/icecast/
>
> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
> Geoff.
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From jeofatima at yahoo.com Fri Sep 12 21:56:30 2003
From: jeofatima at yahoo.com (Jeff Ousley)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:56:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <20030912192859.90809.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030912215630.66702.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
everything configured properly, but, something is
obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide with
these xml files:
- Sample icecast.xml
- Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
I started icecast & ices as directed. I then started
xmms and configured the output plugin to be the OSS
driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
linux box.
On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
"http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The admin
site indicates one person is connected. However, all
winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
"PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back and
forth...no music. Any thots?
Help!!!
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From kerry.cox at ksl.com Fri Sep 12 22:09:23 2003
From: kerry.cox at ksl.com (Kerry Cox)
Date: 12 Sep 2003 16:09:23 -0600
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <20030912215630.66702.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1063404563.9763.116.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
Winamp3 is broken according to some posts here. Try Winamp 2.91 or the
latest XMMS. Of course, XMMS requires the xmms-mp3 libraries.
Try that and see if it helps.
KJ
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:56, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
> everything configured properly, but, something is
> obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide with
> these xml files:
>
> - Sample icecast.xml
> - Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
>
> I started icecast & ices as directed. I then started
> xmms and configured the output plugin to be the OSS
> driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
> linux box.
>
> On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
> "http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The admin
> site indicates one person is connected. However, all
> winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
> "PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back and
> forth...no music. Any thots?
>
> Help!!!
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From jeofatima at yahoo.com Fri Sep 12 22:14:35 2003
From: jeofatima at yahoo.com (Jeff Ousley)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:14:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <1063404563.9763.116.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
Message-ID: <20030912221435.77079.qmail@web10910.mail.yahoo.com>
Should I actually have a "radiofree.ogg" file being
written on my Linux box? If so, I don't see it.
I'll try a different player as well.
--- Kerry Cox wrote:
> Winamp3 is broken according to some posts here. Try
> Winamp 2.91 or the
> latest XMMS. Of course, XMMS requires the xmms-mp3
> libraries.
> Try that and see if it helps.
> KJ
>
>
> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:56, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> > Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
> > everything configured properly, but, something is
> > obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide
> with
> > these xml files:
> >
> > - Sample icecast.xml
> > - Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
> >
> > I started icecast & ices as directed. I then
> started
> > xmms and configured the output plugin to be the
> OSS
> > driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
> > linux box.
> >
> > On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
> > "http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The
> admin
> > site indicates one person is connected. However,
> all
> > winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
> > "PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back
> and
> > forth...no music. Any thots?
> >
> > Help!!!
> > -jeff
> >
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From kerry.cox at ksl.com Fri Sep 12 22:25:09 2003
From: kerry.cox at ksl.com (Kerry Cox)
Date: 12 Sep 2003 16:25:09 -0600
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <20030912221435.77079.qmail@web10910.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1063405509.9763.122.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
That is set up via the config file and is used for accessing the stream.
I do not believe there is ever any static radiofree.ogg file created. It
is used for streaming purposes only. Though I could be wrong. I just
have never bothered to look. Someone correct me if I am.
KJ
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 16:14, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> Should I actually have a "radiofree.ogg" file being
> written on my Linux box? If so, I don't see it.
>
> I'll try a different player as well.
>
> --- Kerry Cox wrote:
> > Winamp3 is broken according to some posts here. Try
> > Winamp 2.91 or the
> > latest XMMS. Of course, XMMS requires the xmms-mp3
> > libraries.
> > Try that and see if it helps.
> > KJ
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:56, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> > > Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
> > > everything configured properly, but, something is
> > > obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide
> > with
> > > these xml files:
> > >
> > > - Sample icecast.xml
> > > - Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
> > >
> > > I started icecast & ices as directed. I then
> > started
> > > xmms and configured the output plugin to be the
> > OSS
> > > driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
> > > linux box.
> > >
> > > On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
> > > "http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The
> > admin
> > > site indicates one person is connected. However,
> > all
> > > winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
> > > "PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back
> > and
> > > forth...no music. Any thots?
> > >
> > > Help!!!
> > > -jeff
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From jeofatima at yahoo.com Fri Sep 12 23:16:59 2003
From: jeofatima at yahoo.com (Jeff Ousley)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <1063404563.9763.116.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
Message-ID: <20030912231659.18926.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com>
Well, WinAmp 2 behave a little better, but still no
go. It actually acts like it's playing a stream, but
all I hear is a quiet hiss & quiet continuous high
pitched noise. Ugggg! Am I getting close?
--- Kerry Cox wrote:
> Winamp3 is broken according to some posts here. Try
> Winamp 2.91 or the
> latest XMMS. Of course, XMMS requires the xmms-mp3
> libraries.
> Try that and see if it helps.
> KJ
>
>
> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:56, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> > Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
> > everything configured properly, but, something is
> > obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide
> with
> > these xml files:
> >
> > - Sample icecast.xml
> > - Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
> >
> > I started icecast & ices as directed. I then
> started
> > xmms and configured the output plugin to be the
> OSS
> > driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
> > linux box.
> >
> > On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
> > "http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The
> admin
> > site indicates one person is connected. However,
> all
> > winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
> > "PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back
> and
> > forth...no music. Any thots?
> >
> > Help!!!
> > -jeff
> >
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From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Sep 13 03:59:52 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:59:52 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <1063405509.9763.122.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
Message-ID:
Hi:
You're right - there's no actual ogg file written for the mountpoint, it's
just a way to refer to the stream and set it apart from any other streams
on the same server.
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From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Sep 13 04:06:54 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:06:54 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
In-Reply-To: <1063405509.9763.122.camel@quasi.ksl.com>
Message-ID:
Hi:
You'll need to configure your soundcard's mixer to route things properly.
If XMMS is just controling the CD drive and the drive is actually playing
the audio, you'll need to have the soundcard set to capture the CD source.
If XMMS is digitally extracting the audio from the Cd and playing it
through the soundcard, the soundcard mixer will need to be configured to
capture its own output. Of course, in the latter case, using ices to
capture and record this is a bit pointless since, at least in theory, you
could use the oddcast2 plugin for XMMS to do it ... but I've not used it so
can't help with this.
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From sonnik at cox.net Sat Sep 13 04:33:31 2003
From: sonnik at cox.net (sonnik at cox.net)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 0:33:31 -0400
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
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Message-ID: <20030913043335.TAQN7829.fed1mtao08.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Just a note: This is similar to the problems I am (still) having. I too am using Redhat9 (Icecast2 and Ices2).
I've used Winamp2 (Zinf tells me the data is corrupted), but instead of the high-pitched noise you describe - I get dead silence. Of course, everything leads me to believe that the connection is healthy and the stream is working.
There's a /home/user/output.ogg option for ices2.xml configuration - maybe you can verify that ices2 is encoding properly. In my case, Ices2 is encoding properly when I listen to the savefile dump, but I get the "dead air" pseudo-stream when I try to connect to Icecast.
>
> From: Jeff Ousley
> Date: 2003/09/12 Fri PM 07:16:59 EDT
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [icecast] noobie questions
>
> Well, WinAmp 2 behave a little better, but still no
> go. It actually acts like it's playing a stream, but
> all I hear is a quiet hiss & quiet continuous high
> pitched noise. Ugggg! Am I getting close?
>
> --- Kerry Cox wrote:
> > Winamp3 is broken according to some posts here. Try
> > Winamp 2.91 or the
> > latest XMMS. Of course, XMMS requires the xmms-mp3
> > libraries.
> > Try that and see if it helps.
> > KJ
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:56, Jeff Ousley wrote:
> > > Thanks, all, for the pointers. I think I have
> > > everything configured properly, but, something is
> > > obviously still wrong. I'm using Kerry's guide
> > with
> > > these xml files:
> > >
> > > - Sample icecast.xml
> > > - Configuration for Streaming Live Audio
> > >
> > > I started icecast & ices as directed. I then
> > started
> > > xmms and configured the output plugin to be the
> > OSS
> > > driver. I'm playing a music cd. This is all on my
> > > linux box.
> > >
> > > On my windows box, using WinAmp 3, I play location
> > > "http://linuxhost:8000/radiofree.ogg.m3u". The
> > admin
> > > site indicates one person is connected. However,
> > all
> > > winamp does, over & over, is cycle between
> > > "PREBUFFERING DONE." & "1. RADIOFREE.OGG". Back
> > and
> > > forth...no music. Any thots?
> > >
> > > Help!!!
> > > -jeff
> > >
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From jeofatima at yahoo.com Sat Sep 13 05:11:57 2003
From: jeofatima at yahoo.com (Jeff Ousley)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:11:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
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Message-ID: <20030913051157.12387.qmail@web10910.mail.yahoo.com>
I think I'm going to take a slightly different
approach and try to get a static playlist to work. I
do have several questions concerning this. Most
importantly, where do I put the playlist.txt file so
ices can find it?
Also, will ices stream both mp3 & ogg files? Is either
better than the other?
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From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Sep 13 06:02:54 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:02:54 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] noobie questions
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Hi:
You can put the playlist file wherever you want it, as long as the ices
process can read it. You just specify it in the config file. Ices 2.x can
only read and output ogg vorbis. Ices 0.3 can read both MP3 and Ogg, but
can only output MP3.
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From fotang at yahoo.com Mon Sep 15 12:35:41 2003
From: fotang at yahoo.com (Tano Fotang)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:35:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ok, and something else (was Re: [icecast] autogen.sh trouble with latest CVS checkout)
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--- Dave St John wrote:
> i ran into the same issue yesterday.
> i had to revert back to 1.6
> here is the link to the exact file that helped me
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/automake/automake-1.6.tar.gz
That, and something else, solved the problem--
specifying the path to libtool.m4:
$export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I /usr/local/share/aclocal -I
/usr/share/aclocal"
Thanks.
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From ingirafn at this.is Mon Sep 15 13:29:21 2003
From: ingirafn at this.is (ingirafn at this.is)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:29:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [icecast] icecast and shout
Message-ID: <1063632561.3f65beb17105b@this.is>
Hello, I have icecast runnig I think.
I made enqripted password with makepasswd -crypt
and then I got pass1 og pass2. As I understand it the pass1 is a uncripted
password and
pass2 encrypted.
I put the pass2 in to the /etc/icecast/icecast.conf and then started it with
icecast -p pass1
Then i put pass2 in to the /etc/icecast/shout.conf
I have tried all variations about having the password in the shout.conf
but it always says.
1.4.0 - www.icecast.org
Connected: [ioi.lhi.is:8000\default]
[/home/bla/bla/mp3/file.mp3]
[5:47] Size: 5566464 Bitrate: 128000 (71364 bytes/dot)
[Server error: [ERROR - Bad Password
]
]
Can anyone tell me what I do wrong?
Sinserely
Ingirafn
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From msmith at xiph.org Tue Sep 16 01:26:50 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:26:50 +1000
Subject: [icecast] icecast and shout
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On Monday 15 September 2003 23:29, ingirafn at this.is wrote:
> Hello, I have icecast runnig I think.
>
> I made enqripted password with makepasswd -crypt
You're presumably using icecast 1.3.x. Don't do that.
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From lemmingsml at nerim.fr Tue Sep 16 05:52:17 2003
From: lemmingsml at nerim.fr (EISELE Pascal)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:52:17 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Slow icecast loopback
Message-ID: <1063691537.747.2.camel@badamiga>
Hi,
I'm using Icecast 1,3,12 under Debian GNU/Linux. When I use my local IP
address everything is normal. When I use the loopback interface by
accessing to my stream at 127,0,0,1 address, the stream is not as good
as it should ! There is some strange jump and little cuts. Is some one
as an idea and a solution ?
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From msmith at xiph.org Tue Sep 16 06:04:11 2003
From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:04:11 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Slow icecast loopback
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On Tuesday 16 September 2003 15:52, EISELE Pascal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using Icecast 1,3,12 under Debian GNU/Linux. When I use my local IP
> address everything is normal. When I use the loopback interface by
> accessing to my stream at 127,0,0,1 address, the stream is not as good
> as it should ! There is some strange jump and little cuts. Is some one
> as an idea and a solution ?
Idea: You shouldn't be using the (deprecated) icecast 1.3.x
Solution: Use icecast2 instead.
Mike
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From lemmingsml at nerim.fr Tue Sep 16 06:32:27 2003
From: lemmingsml at nerim.fr (Pascal Eisele)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:32:27 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Slow icecast loopback
In-Reply-To: <200309161604.11177.msmith@xiph.org>
Message-ID: <3F66AE7B.5060701@nerim.fr>
There is no Debian stable package and our radio is in production... It's
not a good idea to switch without a test phase and I don't think that
it's going to correct the problem.
Michael Smith wrote:
>On Tuesday 16 September 2003 15:52, EISELE Pascal wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm using Icecast 1,3,12 under Debian GNU/Linux. When I use my local IP
>>address everything is normal. When I use the loopback interface by
>>accessing to my stream at 127,0,0,1 address, the stream is not as good
>>as it should ! There is some strange jump and little cuts. Is some one
>>as an idea and a solution ?
>>
>>
>
>Idea: You shouldn't be using the (deprecated) icecast 1.3.x
>Solution: Use icecast2 instead.
>
>
>Mike
>
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From maillists at bartholemy.com Tue Sep 16 21:41:43 2003
From: maillists at bartholemy.com (Luke)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:41:43 +0200
Subject: [icecast] send commands from external script
Message-ID: <3F678397.4080901@bartholemy.com>
Hi,
it?s possible to send commands from an external script to the icecast2
server ?
I want to remount my sources or add/set/del aliases at runtime.
Where I can find the ip from the sources / clients.
Thanks,
Luke
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From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Sep 17 08:55:05 2003
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:55:05 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] send commands from external script
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Hi:
You can send commands to icecast2 via HTTP requests to the admin interface.
I don't know of any documentation, but if you log into
http://server:port/admin with your admin-user and admin-password as set in
the configuration file, you should be able to get an idea of the commands
by looking at the interface there.
Geoff.
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From maillists at bartholemy.com Wed Sep 17 10:32:17 2003
From: maillists at bartholemy.com (maillists at bartholemy.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:32:17 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] send commands from external script
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] send commands from external script>
Message-ID: <20030917103217.7C2EA4200C9@p15107658.pureserver.info>
Hi,
I am familiar with the webinterface but there are only two commands
(kick, move listeners) and just as little statistics (where is the
source ip?).
icecast 1.3 has all the features i need, but it?s not stable/secure
enough.
i tried to use icecast1 as source pool and relay the selected streams
to icecast2.
But If I execute the relay command on icecast1 the server hangs up.
I used this command:
relay push localhost:8000 -p -m /icecast1
Thanks,
Luke
Am 17.09.2003 um 18:55 Uhr haben Sie geschrieben:
> Hi:
>
> You can send commands to icecast2 via HTTP requests to the admin
> interface.
> I don't know of any documentation, but if you log into
> http://server:port/admin with your admin-user and admin-password as
> set in
> the configuration file, you should be able to get an idea of the
> commands
> by looking at the interface there.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
> --
> Geoff Shang
> ICQ number 43634701
>
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From ice at wasteland.respond2.com Wed Sep 17 17:16:48 2003
From: ice at wasteland.respond2.com (Keegan Quinn)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:16:48 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Slow icecast loopback
In-Reply-To: <3F66AE7B.5060701@nerim.fr>
Message-ID: <20030917171648.GA15042@wasteland.respond2.com>
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:32:27AM +0200, Pascal Eisele wrote:
> There is no Debian stable package and our radio is in production... It's
> not a good idea to switch without a test phase and I don't think that
> it's going to correct the problem.
Actually, there is a Debian stable package available.
deb http://rune.thebasement.org/debian stable keegan
HTH,
- Keegan
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From tiagocruz at linuxdicas.com.br Wed Sep 17 15:26:28 2003
From: tiagocruz at linuxdicas.com.br (Tiago Cruz)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:26:28 +0000
Subject: [icecast] Play on site
In-Reply-To: <20030917171648.GA15042@wasteland.respond2.com>
Message-ID: <20030917152628.4c21a225.tiagocruz@linuxdicas.com.br>
Hello!
My Free-Radio with a freesoftware it's like a 95% finished :)
Mandrake 9.1 box, with a icecast and ices package...
I wold like of play the music, without :8000 in the end, ex:
My radio is: http://www.radionumber1.com.br
If I open the xmms and play the URL:
http://200.206.207.221:8000
The song play wonderfoul :)
Now, I make the web-page with a popup or a URL like a
http://www.radionumber1.com.br/radio.htm but the song dont play :(
The source is: