[icecast] no mp3s with ices2!? an other way?

Stefan Neufeind stefan at neufeind.net
Sat May 31 05:12:04 PDT 2003



On 31 May 2003 at 12:49, Karl Heyes wrote:

> On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 10:29, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > I have mp3s as input and can't convert them all. And since my 
> > listeners will ONLY use mp3-streaming I don't want the overhead and
> > quality-loss of converting mp3 to ogg and later stream-transcode
> > them from ogg back to mp3. That's not worth it.
> 
> > So why can't support for mp3 be added to ices2? From a technical
> > point, I mean? Somebody said "It's not and never will be". Any good 
> 
> All transcoding suffers from this. it doesn't matter if you do it
> before hand converting all your files or trancoding on-the-fly inside
> something like ices.
> 
> Nothing is stopping it technically, but it's the non-technical points
> that are stopping this, there are patents on mp3 that people need to
> consider, ices2 is a xiph project so producing ogg streams comes
> before sorting out mp3 and of course some developers have to be
> interested in producing mp3 streams.
> 
> There is nothing wrong with having multiple apps talking to icecast2.

Patents:
Well okay, if you transcode mp3s or something this might a patent-
question (since you'd maybe have to license an encoder ... but not 
under all cases!!!). But sending mp3-files "as is" to the server 
shouldn't require too many changes - or am I wrong? I mean, no 
transcoding or something at all - just sending to the server and 
finished. What patents are you "fearing"?

Multiple apps talking to icecast2:
What do you mean? Still stick to ices-0.2.3-cvs? Well, if mp3-support 
really worked. As said before there were problems reported - and I 
experienced problems myself. So I wonder if it is easier to update 
ices-2.x to support mp3 since it's actively maintained.

   Stefan
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