[icecast] ices 0.3 released

Matt Boersma matt at sprout.org
Mon Jul 14 16:24:34 UTC 2003

On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 05:28:12PM -0400, Arc wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:27:01PM -0700, Dan Sully wrote:
> > 
> >         I quite agree - it's frustrating to be able to use software that's
> >         almost there, then have all the development move to a format that 90%
> >         of the applications/embedded systems don't yet support.
> I'm sorry, but >90% of software does support Ogg.

One thing that is *not* accelerating the adoption of ogg is this
kind of attitude.  I run an online radio station.  We're drooling
to move to ogg, but there are major tradeoffs:
- Most listeners will have to upgrade to a new client or
install a plugin.
- Most WinAMPers connect with v.3, which won't work with ogg
principally because the icecast developers make no concessions
for its mistaken mime-typing.
- Mac users have to give up iTunes and install Whamb.
- Effectively no hardware device support.

I realize all this is changing, and I'm doing whatever I can to
get it there, but you can only force new standards and technologies
on people if you're Steve Jobs.  Others should be as accomodating
as possible. 

<p>> Welcome to the 21st century.

Welcome...to the real world.

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