From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Mon Dec 1 00:36:25 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:36:25 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash In-Reply-To: <002901c3b762$10fdc390$6401a8c0@ripper> Message-ID: <20031201003631.24402532ACF@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Dave, Thanks for everything, I'll test everything and will come back to you very soon. MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Dave St John Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:50 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash Under windows all you need to do is edit your php.ini file under C:\WINDOWS\ (xp) or C:\WINNT (2000) Look for the the following lines ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; Dynamic Extensions ; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; then find ;extension=php_shmop.dll extension=php_sockets.dll ;extension=php_sybase_ct.dll ;extension=php_tokenizer.dll make sure sockets is uncommented you will also need to set the path you where your extension directory resides, which you can do here ; Directory in which the loadable extensions (modules) reside. extension_dir = C:\apache\php\extensions\ (this is where i had mine set to) Keep in mind also that i have not tested any of that under windows, so it may vary, i tested that under linux. Hope that sheds some light for ya. Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macsym" To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash

Hi Dave, I remember I read your post, but when I read it, nobody had answered you yet. Thank you very much for the script, it seems to be more complete than mine. I am new to php, to create a script, I usually edit it in notepad and save it as *.php. How can I compile the script '--with-sockets' under windows? Thanks again MAX ________________________________________ From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Dave St John Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:12 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash Here is some code i wrote to send a mp3 file to a shoutcast server, with a little modification im sure you could change it and use it to connect to icecast2 and write various things etc... not sure but here it is ------------------------------------------------------ $socket = socket_create(AF_INET,SOCK_STREAM,SOL_TCP); // Create the Socket $connection = socket_connect($socket,''.$ip.'',''.$port.'); //connect to the SHOUTcast server while($connection = socket_read($socket,2046)) { $filesz = filesize(''.$fileplay.'');//enter in a single filename here in same directory or enter in full path $fp = fopen (''.$fileplay.'', "rb"); $fr = fread ($fp, $filesz); socket_write($connection,"$password\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"Content-Type:audio/mpeg\r\n"); //ogg is application/ogg socket_write($connection,"Cache-Control:no-cache\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"Pragma:no-cache\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"Connection:close\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"icy-notice1:test1\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"icy-notice2:test2\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"icy-name:test server\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"icy-genre:industrial\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"$fr\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"Connection:keep-alive\r\n"); socket_write($connection,"icy-br:128\r\n\r\n");

} ?> -------------------------------------------------------- php must be compile with socket support i.e. '--with-sockets' otherwise the above will not work. the icy headers apparently will work as well, search the mailing list as i discussed this a few days or weeks ago, to much code netween now and then to remember the exact date ;)

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macsym" To: Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: RE: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in MacromediaFlash > Hi Moritz, > Thanks for everything. > About the log line: > 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET /mystream > HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464 > > How can I set up my php script to send hardcoded header information for the > parameter "referrer"? Do you think the value: > fputs($sock, "referrer: "-"\n"); > > should be OK? > > Also, does anybody know what the last number (13712464) in the log is? It is > not the number of the log line because this number was recurrent on several > tests. > > MAX > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > gtgbr at gmx.net > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:20 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] Re: [icecast-dev] Hot Topic: Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > Hi, > > > I moved this to icecast@, since none of these are icecast development > related questions and issues. > > Macsym wrote: > > I didn't know so many people in the Icecast-Dev list were running Linux > PPC! > > Oh well, I'm neither a developer nor running Linux PPC. ;) > > > Anyway, I understand that you guys don't have the time to help me with > that > > because you wouldn't be able to run the flash player anyway! Because of > > that, I think I will send the topic to the regular Icecast mailing list > > (where I might find more people running Linux, Mac OS or Windows). > > I have some Windows boxes around where I have Flashplayer installed. > However, since I'm switching OSes faster than my socks (I am > multi-booting), and I am not *allowed* to install/use Flash on the other > most important OS (OpenBSD, even though it would work), I am avoiding > flashy sites as good as possible. I can't say I find Flash's > discriminating license or its habit of eating CPU cycles and RAM > appealing at all. > > Actually, I believe your Flash-based streaming client is only good to > obfuscate the real address of the streaming server, to keep people from > easily dumping the stream to disk or just play it in their favorite > player... > > > There are still some kinds of information I can only get from the dev > list: > > > > -Does anybody know where I can find a document that explains the changes > in > > the core architecture between Icecast1 and Icecast2 (Flash was working > with > > Icecast1)? > > Hey, I can answer that! :) > > Everything is different, Icecast 2 is a re-write. > > > -Does Icecast need to receive some kinds of headers from the player before > > sending the stream? If yes, what are these headers? > > Nothing special that I know of - it's plain HTTP, and clients only need > to send a simple GET request to start listening to a stream. Others may > slap me now for spreading false information, however, I'm pretty sure > I'm close to the mark. > > > -Can somebody translate me this access log line: > > 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET > /mystream > > HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464 > > 200 is the return code the server replied. 200 means "OK", iirc. The > other number is the amount of bytes transferred, (null) is what the > server got from the client as the referer (it should be "-" for "no > referer") and "-" is a place holder for the user-agent, which the client > should've sent. However, I do not know what the final number is supposed > to mean ... I don't know it from Apache, and my icecast access.log > usually has that one as a zero, but not always. > > > Moritz > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

> > I analyzed the logs of my icecast server to understand what is happening: > > When I run the swf in standalone mode (not embedded), the ACCESS log is: > 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:37:46 Romance Standard Time] "GET /mystream > HTTP/1.1" 200 246535 "(null)" "http://192.168.0.4:37/mystream" 13712368. > > When I run the webpage in which the swf is embedded in, I can see the swf > contacts the server but no stream is played. The ACCESS log is: > 192.168.0.3 - - [27/Nov/2003:04:42:58 Romance Standard Time] "GET /mystream > HTTP/1.1" 200 328981 "(null)" "-" 13712464 > > I both case, the ERROR log is: > [.]Client connected > [.]Source found for client > [.[Client added > > It means the swf, even when embedded, can access the stream (but it doesn't > play anything). Anyway, I noticed the only difference between the two ACCESS > logs is the "http://192.168.0.4:37/mystream" (in first log) instead of "-" > (in second log) that appears behind "(null)". Please not that I made other > tests with Winamp and the habitual information that appears behind "(null)" > is "-". Ok, but this isn't really significant. The first version (standalone) is reporting the referring address, the second isn't. Also, for some reason, the user-agent reported the first time is the stream address, but this won't affect anything. > > I thought the problem might come from the headers that Icecast need to > receive from regular players (Winamp,.) before sending the stream because I > think my Flash animation doesn't send any header information when embedded I'm sure Icecast (unlike Shoutcast) doesn't care what user-agent string is provided. If the stand-alone player works without modified headers, this can't be the problem. > into a webpage (headers information is send by the browser instead). For > this reason I tried to use a php script that sends hardcoded header > information (Content-type: audio/mpeg; GET HTTP/1.1; > protocol: \"http\") to the server. Then I call the URL of this script into > my flash code instead of the URL of the stream. The php script is: > $streamname = "192.168.0.4"; // put in whatever stream you want to play > $port = "37"; // put in the port of the stream > $path = "/mystream"; // put in any extra path, this is usually just a / > header("Content-type: audio/mpeg"); > $sock = fsockopen($streamname,$port); > fputs($sock, "GET $path HTTP/1.1\n"); > fputs($sock, "protocol: \"http\"\n"); > fputs($sock, "Connection: close\n\n"); > fpassthru($sock); > ?> > I still have the same problem even with the script: I can listen to the > stream when I run the swf in standalone mode but NOT when it is embedded > into a webpage. I also analyzed the access logs of Icecast when I call the Here's a thought. Perhaps the embedded player is missing the relevant codec (MP3 decoder) to play the stream? Have you tried including a short, static MP3 at the start of the animation? My hopeful guess is that the embedded version is being 'compiled' without the MP3 decoder. If you force the encoder to be included (by adding a short static mp3 file at the start) it might know what to do with the stream once it gets it. Maybe even simply adding '.mp3' to the end of the mountpoint name (do this in the source client configuration) will force it to work. Of course, I'm probably completely wrong. Have you tried using the player to listen to Shoutcast streams? How about static mp3's served from Apache? Or maybe there is a limitation in the embedded player on content bitrate? What if you use it to 'tune-in' to low bitrate servers? Hope you get it working - I agree it would be nice to add Flash to the list of supported clients. Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Mon Dec 1 14:56:09 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:56:09 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCB24A9.7010403@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20031201145611.E49A4532AA1@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Leo, Like you, I know think the problem doesn't come from the headers with Icecast. Shoutcast needs some header information before accepting to send the stream but not Icecast. The flash animation doesn't work with Icecast either. I tried adding the mp3 extension to my live stream and to serve a static mp3 through Icecast but I had the same results. Serving a static mp3 through apache works perfectly, even in embedded mode. By analyzing the logs, I noticed the animation, even when embedded, could access the stream and Icecast, actually sends the stream to the player but it doesn't play anything. The standalone player and the flash plugin (needed to run an embedded animation) are exactly the same. However, the standalone player doesn't have all security features that the plugin has. I guess the plugin can't play the stream for security reasons: there might be a cross-domain issue, or the plugin consider the mp3 is corrupted because it is streamed. I am now reading all papers I got about flash security. I tried to apply all solutions advised by macromedia but it still doesn't work for the moment. I did all tests with a 58k bit rate but I'll now try to import a 24K bit rate Thanks for advising, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Leo Currie Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:23 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash Hi - Ok, I don't pretend to have answers for you, sorry, but here are some thoughts: [snip] > HERE IS THE PROBLEM: the code above works perfectly in a standalone swf file > but not when the swf is embedded into a webpage. So you have to assume that there is some difference between the embedded player and the standalone player.

-----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Giles Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:34 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:56:09PM +0100, Macsym wrote: > Serving a static mp3 through apache works perfectly, even in embedded mode. If streaming from apache works, but streaming from icecast doesn't, could the difference be the interleaved metadata? That's one difference between the two. -r --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

Here's my experience:

1- loading sounds from other domains does not infringe the Flash security policy. Loading other movies or variables or even XML files does, but this is not our case.

2- As a fact flash does not undertand every "bit rate/sample rate" combination.

I cant' find the page where I got this information by now, but I've spent some time before finding the right sample rate. Now i'm working with 16 kbps 22.050 Khz and it sounds good.

3- MOST IMPORTANT

It all works fine with icecast 1.3, even in embedded mode. Problems arise with icecast 2.0. Something MUST have changed in the way icecast broadcasts audio streams between the two versions.

---> http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/myplayer.zip <----

Here you can download a little player (4Kb) embedded on a web page. You can use it to listen to KSL radio (hope Kerry doesn't mind) which is running an icecast 1.3 server.

Please note that, when run in stand-alone mode, flash can't return the amount of downloaded bytes, even if the stream plays well. Maybe this is an hint on what's going wrong, but not for me.

Have fun.

just to add my (anxious ) support ., i am currently rewriting my entire radio station/ site . using PHP/MySQL/Icecast2/ices and stream transc0der -- i've got two separate script packages . one to handle a live (or local only) broadcast , it'll read a schedule from the main network or allow you to add your own . then you can lock for broadcast . ices streams and metadata start automatically . .. the second is a media library/ journalling system for the main site . each page CAN be linked to an archive , and its meant to handle the 15+ radio shows we have . and to manage comments or discussion (ie., a band that was featured on one show could add info on their upcoming event er something on the specific show that they were featured on ) , i'm almost finished (and will share when its ready ) . tho i am currently, still thinking through the mechanics of the non-live rebroadcast of archives on the main network -- taking it step by step to keep it solid . (its been a few months now of c0ding ! ) anyh0w; my main objective here is to provide is a mp3 stream-transcoded mount that mirrors the live or rebroadcast schedule (in ogg format ) . ALSO, i'm preparing a request channel that will effectively allow users to listen to ogg archives in mp3 (if they so desire ) . it is a way to avoid disappointment if they don't know how to get the media player working , and once they've logged in -- i'll add all the info as to why to switch to ogg and be demp3'd. but all this has to be behind the scenes so its one click to listen . . easy. also, i have been using flash for a header (if they support it ) . and i would love to be able to have my own flash media player embeded in the site . . this would make an outoftheb0x icecast radio station/ site that would work on macs and so on ., (macs support flash don't they ? either way, the will support the mp3 streams ) o please , if you are able to get this hot topic active for 2.o !!! please do ! thanks from canada, eh ! :) a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gktnews at gktech.net Mon Dec 1 19:03:42 2003 From: gktnews at gktech.net (Bryan Koschmann - GKT) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:03:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] multiple streams not working In-Reply-To: <1070302773.19871.117.camel@bogus.hackers.club> Message-ID: On 1 Dec 2003, Karl Heyes wrote: > > If I understand you correctly then ices2 won't run 2 inputs at the same > time. > > Nothing is stopping you running 2 ices2 running on different xml files > Thanks for the reply. Yes that is correct, and it does work by starting two instances of ices off separate xml files. I was under the impression it worked off the same file and was curious if that was correct or not. Thanks, Bryan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Mon Dec 1 19:18:07 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:18:07 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031201191809.EF0A8532A27@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Adon, Thanks for your interest in my project. I'll share everything as soon as I get something working. I haven't any relevant clue about why it isn't working for the moment, but I am going to work on that one week more. If I can't get it working, I think I will use either Icecat1 or regular players with Icecast2... Yes, Flash works on MAC and Linux (but not Linux PPC) and is completely corss platform. Unlike Java the EXACT same code will run on all platforms because it doesn't depend of any JVM. The bad point is that Flash DOESN'T support ogg; but as ogg is really a great format (definitely better than mp3), we might expect ogg to be supported by flash one day. MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:56 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > I'm interested on switching to icecast 2.0 too, keep this list informed and feel > free to ask if you think I can help somehow.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Tue Dec 2 00:40:58 2003 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:40:58 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCB24A9.7010403@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <200312021140.58360.msmith@xiph.org> > I'm sure Icecast (unlike Shoutcast) doesn't care what user-agent string > is provided. If the stand-alone player works without modified headers, > this can't be the problem. This is correct: we send a user-agent header (for compatibility with shoutcast when doing relaying), but the only thing we do with that header is report it when requested (including logging). > Here's a thought. > Perhaps the embedded player is missing the relevant codec (MP3 decoder) > to play the stream? Have you tried including a short, static MP3 at the > start of the animation? My hopeful guess is that the embedded version is > being 'compiled' without the MP3 decoder. If you force the encoder to be > included (by adding a short static mp3 file at the start) it might know > what to do with the stream once it gets it. > Maybe even simply adding '.mp3' to the end of the mountpoint name (do > this in the source client configuration) will force it to work. I believe he said he tried it with icecast 1.x and it worked - this is very strange, to say the least. Without detailed network dumps, it's hard to even guess at what might be being done differently. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Tue Dec 2 00:46:48 2003 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:46:48 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <20031201173334.GH11416@thaumas.net> Message-ID: <200312021146.48128.msmith@xiph.org> On Tuesday 02 December 2003 04:33, Ralph Giles wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:56:09PM +0100, Macsym wrote: > > Serving a static mp3 through apache works perfectly, even in embedded > > mode. > > If streaming from apache works, but streaming from icecast doesn't, could > the difference be the interleaved metadata? That's one difference between > the two. > Ralph, We only send the metadata if the client explicitly asks for it - however, it's possible that the flash client a) IS asking for it, but b) is incompatible with how icecast2 implements it (as far as I know, we do it right - could be a flash bug if so) Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hanksmith at hanksmith.net Tue Dec 2 05:26:05 2003 From: hanksmith at hanksmith.net (hank) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:26:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:01 -0800 Message-ID: <003d01c3b894$c757da80$2101a8c0@home4pboayp77g> --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From assorgia at tin.it Tue Dec 2 08:39:31 2003 From: assorgia at tin.it (assorgia at tin.it) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:39:31 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <200312021140.58360.msmith@xiph.org> Message-ID: <3FCC5DD3.19987.762CE@localhost> > I believe he said he tried it with icecast 1.x and it worked - this is very > strange, to say the least. Without detailed network dumps, it's hard to even > guess at what might be being done differently. I'm using icecast 1.3 and flash plug-in to play back the streams. It works great, as I said yesterday, and you can test it yourself downloading the little player I made (4Kb). http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/myplayer.zip maybe I could provide network dumps of a working system (icecast 1.3) and one from a not working system (icecast 2.0) if you tell me exactly what you need. Do you need a network dump from the server or from the client side? And how do I make a network dump on Linux or Windows? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Tue Dec 2 09:14:17 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:14:17 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCC5DD3.19987.762CE@localhost> Message-ID: <20031202091417.9122E532ABD@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Assorgia, It would be very nice if you could provide a network dump for both versions of Icecast1 and Icecast2. We could make comparisons of the results and maybe identify why Flash doesn't work with Icecast2. If you need it, I can help you by performing the tests on Icecast2/Windows but not on Icecast1 because I don't have any Linux box for the moment (I only found a version of Icecast1 running on Linux). I don't know either what Michael means exactly by "network dumps". Michael, could you advise some testing procedures we would follow to get relevant results? Cheers, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of assorgia at tin.it Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:40 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > I believe he said he tried it with icecast 1.x and it worked - this is very > strange, to say the least. Without detailed network dumps, it's hard to even > guess at what might be being done differently. I'm using icecast 1.3 and flash plug-in to play back the streams. It works great, as I said yesterday, and you can test it yourself downloading the little player I made (4Kb). http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/myplayer.zip maybe I could provide network dumps of a working system (icecast 1.3) and one from a not working system (icecast 2.0) if you tell me exactly what you need. Do you need a network dump from the server or from the client side? And how do I make a network dump on Linux or Windows? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

> you only have the header info in this, for protocol break up the actual

> contents are needed.

OK! It took shorter than I tought.

Here are 3 new dumps

http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/tcpdump.zip

Another useful hint.

In the successful tests using icecast 1.3 I login using x-audiocast login (http: login doesn't see to work).

I the unsuccessful tests using icecast 2.0 I login using http login as x- audiocast doesn't see to work in this case.

I've tried to strip some useful information from the dumps, Here's the little talk between the client and the server. Keep in mind that when running in embedded mode flash uses the browser to send and receive data. Note that in sucessful tests using icecast 1.3 the client is receving different headers. maybe one of these is responsible of the failure. I'll try installing mozilla and downloading the plug-in. --------------- SUCCESSFUL 2.0 stand alone ---------------------- GET /live HTTP/1.1 Referer: http://192.168.0.242:8000/live User-Agent: Shockwave Flash Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: audio/mpeg icy-bitrate:0 icy-description:publicvoice.fm online radio icy-name:Streaming with MuSE icy-public:1 icy-url:http://publicvoice.fm Server: Icecast 2.0-alpha2/cvs ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- UNSUCCESSFUL 2.0 embedded ------------------------ GET /live HTTP/1.1 Accept: */* x-flash-version: 7,0,14,0 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 Connection: Keep-Alive HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: audio/mpeg icy-bitrate:0 icy-description:publicvoice.fm online radio icy-name:Streaming with MuSE icy-public:1 icy-url:http://publicvoice.fm Server: Icecast 2.0-alpha2/cvs ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- SUCCESSFUL 1.3.12 embedded ----------------------- GET /live HTTP/1.1 Accept: */* x-flash-version: 7,0,14,0 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 Connection: Keep-Alive HTTP/1.0 200 OK Server: icecast/1.3.12 Content-Type: audio/mpeg Cache-Control: no-cache Pragma: no-cache Connection: close Content-Length: 54000000 x-audiocast-location: Just west of Mars x-audiocast-admin: kirk at enterprise.space x-audiocast-server-url: http://www.icecast.org/ x-audiocast-mount:/live x-audiocast-name:Streaming with MuSE x-audiocast-description:publicvoice.fm online radio x-audiocast-url:http://publicvoice.fm x-audiocast-genre:icecast x-audiocast-bitrate:0 x-audiocast-public:1 ------------------------------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From assorgia at tin.it Wed Dec 3 09:58:13 2003 From: assorgia at tin.it (assorgia at tin.it) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:58:13 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCDBA8E.165.21A18E@localhost> Message-ID: <3FCDC1C5.12977.3DD25A@localhost> > I'll try installing mozilla and downloading the plug-in. > Well maybe for some of us this will be little surprise. I've made a sucessful test using icecast 2.0 and the usual flash movie embedded on a web page, this time opened using Mozilla 1.5 (latest version). These are the headers I got: --------------- SUCCESSFUL 2.0 embedded in Mozilla -------------------- GET /live HTTP/1.1 Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Accept: application/x-shockwave- flash,text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,t ext/plain;q=0.8,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: audio/mpeg icy-bitrate:0 icy-description:publicvoice.fm online radio icy-name:Streaming with MuSE icy-public:1 icy-url:http://publicvoice.fm Server: Icecast 2.0-alpha2/cvs ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. I've upgraded the zip file also, now http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/tcpdump.zip contains the whole dump of this successful test.

My listenners are telling me that they cannot listen with winamp 2.91 lite and winam3, just winamp 2.91 standard or full Just anynone know how to listen with winamp 3 ? listen my radio in http://play.ircbrasil.com.br in browser or www.ircbrasil.com.br:8500/ircbrasil.ogg in winamp tanks 4 all and sorry my bad english Andr? From brasil

Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From marco at ormgas.com Wed Dec 3 14:24:00 2003 From: marco at ormgas.com (Marco Alanen) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:00 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Winamp 3 In-Reply-To: <3FCDF079.3030901@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20031203152400.5eea8bb3.marco@ormgas.com> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:17:29 +0000 Leo Currie wrote: > R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > > > Hi people, > > > > Tody i am changing my transmition system from shoutcast to icecast 2, > > encoding in ogg > > > > > > My listenners are telling me that they cannot listen with winamp 2.91 lite > > and winam3, just winamp 2.91 standard or full > > That is correct. > Winamp 3 is broken, and will not correctly play Ogg streams. > Winamp 2.91 lite is a stripped-down version that does not include the > required codec. oh. Then I was waaaaaaay off :) /Marco -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wdh at belbone.be Wed Dec 3 14:44:35 2003 From: wdh at belbone.be (wim) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:44:35 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Winamp 3 In-Reply-To: <002401c3b9a6$c84b65c0$170a0a0a@DOG99> Message-ID: <3FCDF6D3.3000401@belbone.be> R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: >Hi people, > >Tody i am changing my transmition system from shoutcast to icecast 2, >encoding in ogg > > >My listenners are telling me that they cannot listen with winamp 2.91 lite >and winam3, just winamp 2.91 standard or full > >Just anynone know how to listen with winamp 3 ? > > You cannot, winamp3 doesnt support the MIME type that icecast uses (although it's the correct one!!!!) You'll have to wait for a fix from the Winamp guys, or ask you listeners to migrate to Linux or *BSD ;-) >listen my radio in http://play.ircbrasil.com.br in browser or >www.ircbrasil.com.br:8500/ircbrasil.ogg in winamp > >tanks 4 all and sorry my bad english > >Andr? From brasil > > > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From j.v.d.stoel at stream-it.nl Wed Dec 3 15:27:26 2003 From: j.v.d.stoel at stream-it.nl (Johan van der Stoel Streamit) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:26 +0100 Subject: [icecast] win32 icecast2 login problem Message-ID: Hello, I'm trying to test the performance and stability of icecast2 at the windows xp platform using ices 0.3 at my Linux computer. However, I cannot login because of the following error message "attempted to login with invalid or missing password". But the password is ok! After further analysing with the very nice program M3W, which has the possibility to login using icy, X-audio or http protocol I found I only am able to login using the http protocol. According to the ices configuration file, ices only has the possibility to use the icy or X-audio protocol. Who helps me out? Thanks in advance for your kind assistance. Johan van der Stoel Streamit www.stream-it.nl --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wdh at belbone.be Wed Dec 3 15:34:25 2003 From: wdh at belbone.be (wim) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:34:25 +0100 Subject: [icecast] win32 icecast2 login problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3FCE0281.60608@belbone.be> Johan van der Stoel (Streamit) wrote: >Hello, > >I'm trying to test the performance and stability of icecast2 at the windows >xp platform using ices 0.3 at my Linux computer. However, I cannot login >because of the following error message "attempted to login with invalid or >missing password". But the password is ok! After further analysing with the >very nice program M3W, which has the possibility to login using icy, X-audio >or http protocol I found I only am able to login using the http protocol. >According to the ices configuration file, ices only has the possibility to >use the icy or X-audio protocol. > >Who helps me out? > > You have to configure a password in your ices xml file... ;-) >Thanks in advance for your kind assistance. > >Johan van der Stoel >Streamit www.stream-it.nl > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > -- Cheers! Wim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Wed Dec 3 15:36:19 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:19 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCDC1C5.12977.3DD25A@localhost> Message-ID: <20031203153617.E839D532D04@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Assorgia, I'm really happy you successfully got it with Mozilla. Where did you get the headers information? In Icecast2 logs? As soon as I know where to find the header information sent by IE, I will change the php script to cross the valid headers information sent by Mozilla with the necessary information needed by IE. The aim is to give Icecast the impression that the client is Mozilla. Also, I read that the Flash player, since 6.0.60.65, also sends header information to the server. I guess it is why you got "Accept: application/x-shockwave- flash,text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,t ext/plain;q=0.8,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1" In the headers you mentioned what are those sent by the client and those received? I think these headers are sent: GET /live HTTP/1.1 Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Accept: application/x-shockwave- flash,text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,t ext/plain;q=0.8,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive And those are received: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: audio/mpeg icy-bitrate:0 icy-description:publicvoice.fm online radio icy-name:Streaming with MuSE icy-public:1 icy-url:http://publicvoice.fm Server: Icecast 2.0-alpha2/cvs Am I right? Do you think I can change the Accept headers like this: Accept: */* Accept-Language: * Accept-Encoding: * (I am not sure for this one) Accept-Charset: *

Thanks again for sharing all your results:) MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of assorgia at tin.it Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > I'll try installing mozilla and downloading the plug-in. > Well maybe for some of us this will be little surprise. I've made a sucessful test using icecast 2.0 and the usual flash movie embedded on a web page, this time opened using Mozilla 1.5 (latest version). These are the headers I got: --------------- SUCCESSFUL 2.0 embedded in Mozilla -------------------- GET /live HTTP/1.1 Host: 192.168.0.242:8000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Accept: application/x-shockwave- flash,text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,t ext/plain;q=0.8,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive: 300 Connection: keep-alive HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: audio/mpeg icy-bitrate:0 icy-description:publicvoice.fm online radio icy-name:Streaming with MuSE icy-public:1 icy-url:http://publicvoice.fm Server: Icecast 2.0-alpha2/cvs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - P.S. I've upgraded the zip file also, now http://www.sardegnaoggi.it/downloads/tcpdump.zip contains the whole dump of this successful test.

Hi Andr?, Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC and Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still working on it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but Assorgia got successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you need further information. MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:08 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash hi people, i has received some msg about icecast with macromedia flash, but i have not understend it yet. Will my listenners can listen without winamp? i will can give then a lnk to listen and when they click, a plugin will be downloaded off macromedia site and they will listen directly ? please give me more information about this plase, and datas for it enter in production . tanks Andr? http://play.ircbrasil.com.br

Regards, Ross Levis. ======================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist and automation software. ======================================== --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at xiph.org Wed Dec 3 22:06:24 2003 From: brendan at xiph.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:06:24 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Error compiling ices-0.3 In-Reply-To: <001401c3b9c6$c8634d00$6501a8c0@SARA> Message-ID: <20031203220624.GD396@watanabe.local> On Wednesday, 03 December 2003 at 12:56, Charles Burns wrote: > I'm trying to compile ices-0.3 on a RedHat 9, kernel 2.4.23 box and I > receive the following error: > > : the use of `tmpnam_r' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' > /usr/lib/python2.2/config/libpython2.2.a(posixmodule.o)(.text+0x385e): > In function `posix_tempnam': > : the use of `tempnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' > playlist/libplaylist.a(pm_perl.o)(.text+0x515): In function > `pl_perl_eval': > /usr/src/ices-0.3/src/playlist/pm_perl.c:253: undefined reference to > `PL_thr_key' > playlist/libplaylist.a(pm_perl.o)(.text+0x65d):/usr/src/ices-0.3/src/pla > ylist/pm_perl.c:238: > undefined reference to `PL_thr_key' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[3]: *** [ices] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.3/src' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.3/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.3' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > I have LAME, python, perl, libshout, etc. all installed with the > appropriate libraries, all of which were found by configure. It looks like some kind of threading problem. But I don't know offhand what's causing the problem. If you're not going to be using perl playlist scripts, just turn off perl (./configure --without-perl). --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Dec 4 01:33:17 2003 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:33:17 +1100 Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: <002801c3b9d6$3bacb4e0$170a0a0a@DOG99> Message-ID: <200312041233.17647.msmith@xiph.org> On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:47, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > Hi People, > > My Web Radio is transmited by varions sources in varions citties here in > brasil, and there are 1 source p/ hour. The problem is that every time a > source discoonect and other connect, the listenners have been disconnect > too. Some times there are 40 listenners, and when we the source is changed, > the number of listenners degree to 10. There are some configuration for it > ? > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the icecast-dev mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Thu Dec 4 03:46:44 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:46:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: <200312041233.17647.msmith@xiph.org> Message-ID: > > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the icecast-dev > mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). ( i'll have to teach myself h0w to compile a patch on a cvs project , .. ) but if i may ask , could i expect features like this (complex fallbacks) to get worked into 2.1 ?, thanks ., a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Dec 4 03:54:48 2003 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:54:48 +1100 Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200312041454.49002.msmith@xiph.org> On Thursday 04 December 2003 14:46, Adon Irani wrote: > > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the > > icecast-dev mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). > > ( i'll have to teach myself h0w to compile a patch on a cvs project , .. ) > > but if i may ask , could i expect features like this (complex fallbacks) > to get worked into 2.1 ?, > Yes, this is something I definately want to get into 2.1, I think the other developers agree. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From luptonn at hotmail.com Thu Dec 4 11:03:45 2003 From: luptonn at hotmail.com (Nigel Lupton) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:03:45 +0000 Subject: [icecast] problems streaming ogg with ices2 and icecast2 Message-ID: Hi there, I'm trying to stream audio from my audio card using ices2/icecast2. I've been following the unofficial HOWTO at http://www.6809.org.uk/media/ices2-howto.shtml. So, I've downloaded and installed libshout2, ices2 and icecast2. Everything starts up OK and I can get stats by pointing my browser at the admin page: - 5 8 3 0 - samplerate=22050;channels=2;bitrate=64 64 2 0 22050 Ogg Vorbis However, if I try to get at the stream by pointing the browser at /test.ogg I get a 404 error. I've tried saving the stream using the tag in the ices.xml config file. This file is always 0 bytes long. Has anybody seen this before? I'm running redhat/fedora core1. Thanks, Nigel. _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Thu Dec 4 11:57:16 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:57:16 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <1070487953.3fce5991aac36@webmail.dsl.net> Message-ID: <20031204115721.D6FBA5329E1@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Tivo, There are no blips when playing an Icecast2 stream in Flash. It used to occur with flash versions anterior of 6.025. The "chipmunk" output sound occurs only with some bit rates. The fact that Flash doesn't send metadata might be a problem if we want to publish the ID3 tags sent by the server; but it can be easily solved by importing them through an XML file. Cheers, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adam D. Ligas Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash Hey guys, Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving metadata it did not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any metadata is being sent? A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams through my TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. I don't want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two problems (Flash and TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a link to my original issue. http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html - Adam Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC and > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still working > on > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but Assorgia > got > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you need > > further information. > > Two precisations: > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already possible if > you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under Windows > XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I guess it works well > too. > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

-----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adam D. Ligas Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash Hey guys, Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving metadata it did not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any metadata is being sent? A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams through my TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. I don't want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two problems (Flash and TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a link to my original issue. http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html - Adam Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC and > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still working > on > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but Assorgia > got > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you need > > further information. > > Two precisations: > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already possible if > you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under Windows > XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I guess it works well > too. > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:47, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > Hi People, > > My Web Radio is transmited by varions sources in varions citties here in > brasil, and there are 1 source p/ hour. The problem is that every time a > source discoonect and other connect, the listenners have been disconnect > too. Some times there are 40 listenners, and when we the source is changed, > the number of listenners degree to 10. There are some configuration for it > ? > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the icecast-dev mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Thu Dec 4 17:05:14 2003 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:05:14 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Beta 2 Available... Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20031204110307.02ca94c8@www.oddsock.org> Beta 2 has now been released...We are getting very very close to the 2.0 release. This could quite possibly be the last beta before 2.0.. Please help us by testing and submitting any bug reports to the icecast-dev mailing list! Here is the new stuff since beta1 * fixed a stability issue with the win32 build of icecast that would cause unexplained exits of the UI. * added new configuration option which if set, will create a file containing the pid of the running icecast server. * fixed logging message in the win32 build of icecast to NOT display the full path of the module generating the message. * fix segv when fallback or dumpfilename are not specified * cleanup bad pointer access after config re-read * added VERSION_STRING to defines for win32 project Download beta 2 from http://www.icecast.org/files Icecast development team --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Thu Dec 4 18:25:16 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:25:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <20031204124150.B8C55532A39@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: it works on opera (v7 ) ( go0d work ! ) On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Here is a WORKING solution of Flash as a player: > http://macsym.free.fr/player/ > > The player that Assorgia built seems to work on these OS/Browsers > combinations: > -Linux and Windows: Mozilla > -MAC: Internet Explorer 5/Safari > > It DOESN'T work on: > -Windows; Internet Explorer 6 (and maybe other versions of IE on Windows) > > Could you please try it with other OS/Browser (Netscape, Opera...) > combinations and tell us if it works on not? Please report your browser > version and your operating system. > > We are currently working to create a version for Internet Explorer on > Windows. > > Thanks in advance, > > MAX > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > Adam D. Ligas > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > Hey guys, > > Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving metadata it did > not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. > > Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any metadata is > being > sent? > > A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams through my > TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. I don't > want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two problems (Flash > and > TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a link to my > > original issue. > > http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html > > - Adam > > Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC and > > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) > > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still working > > on > > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but Assorgia > > got > > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you need > > > further information. > > > > Two precisations: > > > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already possible if > > you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under Windows > > XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I guess it works > well > > too. > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Thu Dec 4 18:27:00 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: <004e01c3ba81$7ad65440$170a0a0a@DOG99> Message-ID: ( as per my message on this one ) , if you wait until release 2.1 in a month or so, this feature will be built it . otherwise , you'll have to research cvs and adding patches , and do all this yourself .. . a:/, On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, [iso-8859-1] R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > hi mike, > > sorry, but i am a big newbee can u explain how i get this complex-fallbacks > and how i compile it in icecast 2 ? > > my radio is in production since yesterday with icecast 2, and i am loosing > very listeneers cause of it. > > if u can help me, i will apreciate very much > > tanks > > Andr? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ? > > > On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:47, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > > Hi People, > > > > My Web Radio is transmited by varions sources in varions citties here in > > brasil, and there are 1 source p/ hour. The problem is that every time a > > source discoonect and other connect, the listenners have been disconnect > > too. Some times there are 40 listenners, and when we the source is > changed, > > the number of listenners degree to 10. There are some configuration for it > > ? > > > > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the icecast-dev > mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Thu Dec 4 18:33:25 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:33:25 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031204183332.041A953299B@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Adon, Thanks for your message. Could you please tell us what is your operating system and version? It seems to work with every browser/OS combination EXECPT windows/IE!! MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:25 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash

it works on opera (v7 ) ( go0d work ! ) On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Here is a WORKING solution of Flash as a player: > http://macsym.free.fr/player/ > > The player that Assorgia built seems to work on these OS/Browsers > combinations: > -Linux and Windows: Mozilla > -MAC: Internet Explorer 5/Safari > > It DOESN'T work on: > -Windows; Internet Explorer 6 (and maybe other versions of IE on Windows) > > Could you please try it with other OS/Browser (Netscape, Opera...) > combinations and tell us if it works on not? Please report your browser > version and your operating system. > > We are currently working to create a version for Internet Explorer on > Windows. > > Thanks in advance, > > MAX > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > Adam D. Ligas > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > Hey guys, > > Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving metadata it did > not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. > > Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any metadata is > being > sent? > > A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams through my > TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. I don't > want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two problems (Flash > and > TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a link to my > > original issue. > > http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html > > - Adam > > Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC and > > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) > > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still working > > on > > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but Assorgia > > got > > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you need > > > further information. > > > > Two precisations: > > > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already possible if > > you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under Windows > > XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I guess it works > well > > too. > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > Hi Adon, > > Thanks for your message. Could you please tell us what is your operating > system and version? It seems to work with every browser/OS combination > EXECPT windows/IE!! > > MAX > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > Adon Irani > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:25 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > > it works on opera (v7 ) > > ( go0d work ! ) > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Here is a WORKING solution of Flash as a player: > > http://macsym.free.fr/player/ > > > > The player that Assorgia built seems to work on these OS/Browsers > > combinations: > > -Linux and Windows: Mozilla > > -MAC: Internet Explorer 5/Safari > > > > It DOESN'T work on: > > -Windows; Internet Explorer 6 (and maybe other versions of IE on Windows) > > > > Could you please try it with other OS/Browser (Netscape, Opera...) > > combinations and tell us if it works on not? Please report your browser > > version and your operating system. > > > > We are currently working to create a version for Internet Explorer on > > Windows. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > MAX > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > > Adam D. Ligas > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > > > Hey guys, > > > > Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving metadata it > did > > not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. > > > > Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any metadata is > > being > > sent? > > > > A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams through > my > > TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. I > don't > > want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two problems (Flash > > and > > TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a link to > my > > > > original issue. > > > > http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html > > > > - Adam > > > > Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > > > > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running Windows, MAC > and > > > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 (not OGG) > > > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are still > working > > > on > > > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but > Assorgia > > > got > > > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic if you > need > > > > further information. > > > > > > Two precisations: > > > > > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already possible if > > > you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > > > > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under Windows > > > XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I guess it works > > well > > > too. > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Thu Dec 4 18:56:40 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:56:40 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031204185646.5541F532A52@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi, Is there anybody running Internet Explorer 5 on Windows? Since v5 works on MAC but v6 doesn't work on Windows, it would be very useful to know if the flash player works with Internet Explorer 5 on Windows. Lots of thanks in advance, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:50 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash

sure , windows thinks linux (er n0n-proprietary software ) is a virus ! :) windows XP , Opera 7.11 (2887) , and yes .. ie6 doesn't work for me .

-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Thu Dec 4 19:23:13 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:23:13 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <20031204185646.5541F532A52@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: <20031204192319.3D211532BE4@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Sorry, I forgot to provide the URL: http://macsym.free.fr/player So we are searching for somebody running Windows with Internet Explorer 5 or 5.5. Just click the link above and tell us if you can hear the music or not. If you see kilobytes are loaded but no stream is played, wait few seconds. To check your IE version, go in Help->About Microsoft Explorer. Thank you VERY MUCH in advance, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Macsym Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:57 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash Hi, Is there anybody running Internet Explorer 5 on Windows? Since v5 works on MAC but v6 doesn't work on Windows, it would be very useful to know if the flash player works with Internet Explorer 5 on Windows. Lots of thanks in advance, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:50 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash

sure , windows thinks linux (er n0n-proprietary software ) is a virus ! :) windows XP , Opera 7.11 (2887) , and yes .. ie6 doesn't work for me .

( as per my message on this one ) , if you wait until release 2.1 in a month or so, this feature will be built it . otherwise , you'll have to research cvs and adding patches , and do all this yourself .. . a:/, On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, [iso-8859-1] R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > hi mike, > > sorry, but i am a big newbee can u explain how i get this complex-fallbacks > and how i compile it in icecast 2 ? > > my radio is in production since yesterday with icecast 2, and i am loosing > very listeneers cause of it. > > if u can help me, i will apreciate very much > > tanks > > Andr? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ? > > > On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:47, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > > Hi People, > > > > My Web Radio is transmited by varions sources in varions citties here in > > brasil, and there are 1 source p/ hour. The problem is that every time a > > source discoonect and other connect, the listenners have been disconnect > > too. Some times there are 40 listenners, and when we the source is > changed, > > the number of listenners degree to 10. There are some configuration for it > > ? > > > > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the icecast-dev > mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards, Stefan On 4 Dec 2003 at 20:23, Macsym wrote: > Sorry, > > I forgot to provide the URL: http://macsym.free.fr/player > So we are searching for somebody running Windows with Internet > Explorer 5 or 5.5. Just click the link above and tell us if you can > hear the music or not. If you see kilobytes are loaded but no stream > is played, wait few seconds. > > To check your IE version, go in Help->About Microsoft Explorer. > > Thank you VERY MUCH in advance, > > MAX > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf > Of Macsym Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:57 PM To: > icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > Hi, > > Is there anybody running Internet Explorer 5 on Windows? Since v5 > works on MAC but v6 doesn't work on Windows, it would be very useful > to know if the flash player works with Internet Explorer 5 on Windows. > > Lots of thanks in advance, > > MAX > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf > Of Adon Irani Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:50 PM To: > icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > > sure , windows thinks linux (er n0n-proprietary software ) is a virus > ! :) > > windows XP , Opera 7.11 (2887) , and yes .. ie6 doesn't work for me . > > > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > > > Hi Adon, > > > > Thanks for your message. Could you please tell us what is your > > operating system and version? It seems to work with every browser/OS > > combination EXECPT windows/IE!! > > > > MAX > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On > > Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:25 PM To: > > icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > > > > > it works on opera (v7 ) > > > > ( go0d work ! ) > > > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Macsym wrote: > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > Here is a WORKING solution of Flash as a player: > > > http://macsym.free.fr/player/ > > > > > > The player that Assorgia built seems to work on these OS/Browsers > > > combinations: -Linux and Windows: Mozilla -MAC: Internet Explorer > > > 5/Safari > > > > > > It DOESN'T work on: > > > -Windows; Internet Explorer 6 (and maybe other versions of IE on > Windows) > > > > > > Could you please try it with other OS/Browser (Netscape, Opera...) > > > combinations and tell us if it works on not? Please report your > > > browser version and your operating system. > > > > > > We are currently working to create a version for Internet Explorer > > > on Windows. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > MAX > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On > > > Behalf > Of > > > Adam D. Ligas > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:46 PM > > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > > Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > Earlier in this thread Oddsock said that a player recieving > > > metadata it > > did > > > not expect would most likely produce blips in the output. > > > > > > Has anyone checked any of these network dumps to see if any > > > metadata is being sent? > > > > > > A while back I reported difficulty with playing Icecast2 streams > > > through > > my > > > TiVo. I recently upgraded to Beta 1 and the problem still exists. > > > I > > don't > > > want to hijack this thread, but I am thinking that the two > > > problems > (Flash > > > and > > > TiVo) might be related, if not the same. For reference, here's a > > > link > to > > my > > > > > > original issue. > > > > > > http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/5664.html > > > > > > - Adam > > > > > > Quoting assorgia at tin.it: > > > > > > > > Yes you got it, with Flash, all your listeners running > > > > > Windows, MAC > > and > > > > > Linux (but not Linux PPC) will be able to listen to your MP3 > > > > > (not > OGG) > > > > > stream through the same player: the flash plug-in. We are > > > > > still > > working > > > > on > > > > > it because it doesn't work yet when the player is embedded but > > Assorgia > > > > got > > > > > successful results with Mozilla/Linux. Read the entire topic > > > > > if you > > need > > > > > further information. > > > > > > > > Two precisations: > > > > > > > > 1- Listening with flash embedded on a web page is already > > > > possible if you broadcast your streams with icecast 1.3. > > > > > > > > 2- I've made a successful test using Mozilla running under > > > > Windows XP. I haven't tried yet with one running on linux but I > > > > guess it works well too. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From stefan at neufeind.net Thu Dec 4 22:35:02 2003 From: stefan at neufeind.net (Stefan Neufeind) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:35:02 +0100 Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: <003501c3baa0$675715c0$170a0a0a@DOG99> Message-ID: <3FCFC4A6.30324.16D9BAD@localhost> I don't know if working with CVS and patches is such a good idea is you have never done so before. I only have a quick-hack-solution that might help you: Stream from the sources to a machine with a (virtual) soundcard. Play those streams on that machine, record the output audio again and sent it back out. This is quite easy to do if you cross-connect line-in and line-out on a simply soundcard ... it can be done within minutes. But again: This is only a *quick* fix - since decompression/compression might lower your soundquality considerably. But maybe it helps you for now? PS: Or could anybody send him a readily compiled version?

Regards, Stefan On 4 Dec 2003 at 17:53, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marce wrote: > sorry that i am so persistent, > > but this is very very important to me how research cvs and adding > patches for i do it? > > i need it very much, i cannot wait a mounth or so > > if u can, tank u very very much > > Andr? > > could u say me hot rese > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adon Irani" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ? > > > > ( as per my message on this one ) , > > if you wait until release 2.1 in a month or so, this feature will be > built it . otherwise , you'll have to research cvs and adding patches > , and do all this yourself .. . > > a:/, > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, [iso-8859-1] R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo > wrote: > > > hi mike, > > > > sorry, but i am a big newbee can u explain how i get this > complex-fallbacks > > and how i compile it in icecast 2 ? > > > > my radio is in production since yesterday with icecast 2, and i am > > loosing very listeneers cause of it. > > > > if u can help me, i will apreciate very much > > > > tanks > > > > Andr? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Smith" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ? > > > > > > On Thursday 04 December 2003 06:47, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo > > wrote: > > > Hi People, > > > > > > My Web Radio is transmited by varions sources in varions citties > > > here in brasil, and there are 1 source p/ hour. The problem is > > > that every time a source discoonect and other connect, the > > > listenners have been disconnect too. Some times there are 40 > > > listenners, and when we the source is > > changed, > > > the number of listenners degree to 10. There are some > > > configuration for > it > > > ? > > > > > > > Try using the complex-fallbacks patch provided by Melanie on the > icecast-dev > > mailing list yesterday (you can find it on the archives). > > > > Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Thu Dec 4 22:50:30 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:50:30 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash In-Reply-To: <3FCFC2B4.25867.165FF9A@localhost> Message-ID: <20031204225038.BC328532C10@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Stephan, Thanks for reporting. Now we know it doesn't work on IE 5.5/Windows (but it works on IE5.2 on MAC). You had nice idea to store the file on the icecast2 root. Unfortunately, I already tried it few days ago and it didn't work either... Cheers, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Neufeind Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:27 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast in Macromedia Flash No audio with IE 5.5 SP2 on Windows 2k. Sorry for the bad news. But why? Maybe it's a cross-site-error so that IE blocks access to a different server for security-reasons? Could you please put the player under the web-root of your icecast2-server and give us the links? Maybe that helps - cause then the audio is coming from the same URL.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Harish Kamath wrote: > Hi all, > > I have requirement for one of my college projects - to build > an on-demand streaming music web site. Users will be able to upload songs > to the server and other members of the site will be able to listen and > rate them on their quality etc. > > Here is a little background about my development architecture - I am > using a Linux box with Apache as my web server and Icecast (obviously) as my > MP3 streaming server (along with IceS). I have managed to configure > Icecast and IceS to streaming song - of course, this is from static playlist > file. > However, I need these feature on demand, much like you have > implemented it. Furthermore, the song should only play once and stop. > > Regards, > Harish. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Fri Dec 5 06:55:55 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:55:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] load average question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i've been trying to research this online , but i haven't found anything too conclusive . i've got up to 4 ices (non-encoding) rebroadcasts going , and up to 2 stream transcoders . my load averages around 2.xx ( haven't seen it over 3 yet ).. does anyone know if this is too high ? , or if i should use a more powerful cpu ? thanks .. . a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Fri Dec 5 07:34:53 2003 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:34:53 +1100 Subject: [icecast] load average question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200312051834.53435.msmith@xiph.org> On Friday 05 December 2003 17:55, Adon Irani wrote: > i've been trying to research this online , but i haven't found anything > too conclusive . > > i've got up to 4 ices (non-encoding) rebroadcasts going , and up to 2 > stream transcoders . > > my load averages around 2.xx ( haven't seen it over 3 yet ).. > > does anyone know if this is too high ? , or if i should use a more > powerful cpu ? > As a general rule, you don't want to set up a system with a load average of more than 1 (per cpu, so between 1 and 2 is ok for a dual cpu system). ices (when not encoding) will use a negligible amount of cpu, so the problem is probably entirely the stream transcoders. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Fri Dec 5 07:57:14 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:57:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] load average question In-Reply-To: <200312051834.53435.msmith@xiph.org> Message-ID: > > As a general rule, you don't want to set up a system with a load average of > more than 1 (per cpu, so between 1 and 2 is ok for a dual cpu system). > > ices (when not encoding) will use a negligible amount of cpu, so the problem > is probably entirely the stream transcoders.

assuming i want to continue using streamTranscoder ( and that it cannot be optimized any further ) ., hould i upgrade my system immediately ?, or, will a load average of <2 cause other system problems ?, ie., slow down mysql access and apache ? thanks for any advice .. a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From j.v.d.stoel at stream-it.nl Fri Dec 5 12:53:45 2003 From: j.v.d.stoel at stream-it.nl (Johan van der Stoel Streamit) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:53:45 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Message: Could not parse XSLT file Message-ID: Hello, After getting icecast2 running on both Windows and Mandrake Linux, I have troubles with getting stats.xsl in my browser. I succeed in this with my Windows installation, but not on my Linux machine. The message I get once I try to read the file is: Could not parse XSLT file. What am I doing wrong? Johan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From andre at ircbrasil.com.br Fri Dec 5 15:37:25 2003 From: andre at ircbrasil.com.br (R�dio IRCBrasil - Andr� Marcelo) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:25 -0200 Subject: [icecast] There are a solution ? In-Reply-To: <200312051155.39054.msmith@xiph.org> Message-ID: <003601c3bb45$b1574550$170a0a0a@DOG99> hi people, first i want to tank very much to karlH and brendan of the #icecat channel, they give me a good help yesterday, and i am almost resolvin my problem. i will explain my problem again, maybe other can help or see other way to resolv: I have a web radio in Brasil. This web radio have 25 djs, one in echat part of brasil. They stream to the icecast server from your studio. The listenners ear the radio from the link http://play.ircbrasil.com.br that is a web forward do http://www.ircbrasil.com.br:8500/ircbrasil.ogg So, whats happend? ALL djs connect to icecast server with the same moint point, the ircbrasil.ogg. At every hour, the old dj say GO GO GO, so he disconnect from icecast server and the new dj connect at the same time. When i was using shoutcast, this was very fine, but with icecast, all my listenners have been disconnect when its happend. Some people of #icecast channel tell me to every dj run with a mount point different and move clientes, but i cant do it, cause all listenners connect by same link. I did a sujestion give me by karlH and brendan, i an running a icecast master in port 8500 how relay, where the listenners connect, with a local point ircbrasil.ogg and the relay poing djs.ogg and a secund server, in port 8600, where the djs connect to streamin. The first dj enter ho djs.ogg and the other with yours mount point, so, the new dj enter in admin mode and move moint points to it. BUT, the problem is that if he have a simple lag of some seconds for ex, and he reconnect, the server do not start more, cause the relay is waiting for djs.ogg and the dj is using yournick.ogg Other question, is the lag. when there are a lag between dj and server, and there are a disconnection from 1 secund yet, all listenners disconnect too. This is bad, very bad. I wanna konw if some one more have a radio how ircbrasil, with very djs streamings of differentes studios, cause i am needing a help urgently. i wanna sugest to coders, to have a option for send silence for some secunds when the source disconnect, for the listenners dont disconnect, it would be very very good, cause i dont know what to do. tanks Andr? Internet Radio Chat Brasil http://play.ircbrasil.com.br ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ?

On Friday 05 December 2003 03:12, R?dio IRCBrasil - Andr? Marcelo wrote: > hi mike, > > sorry, but i am a big newbee can u explain how i get this complex-fallbacks > and how i compile it in icecast 2 ? You'll have to wait until 2.1 is released (which should have this feature) if you want to use it without having to patch the source code yourself. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

So it??s very simple, i do a dj with the ircbrasil.ogg and a fallback playlist.ogg o, when onde disconnect for the other enter, the playlist will assume and my listenners will not disconnect, an i right? i yes, i dont need do the relay configuration, it will be very very simple Andr?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Heyes" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] There are a solution ?

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 15:37, R??dio IRCBrasil - Andr?? Marcelo wrote: > I did a sujestion give me by karlH and brendan, i an running a icecast > master in port 8500 how relay, where the listenners connect, with a local > point ircbrasil.ogg and the relay poing djs.ogg and a secund server, in port > 8600, where the djs connect to streamin. The first dj enter ho djs.ogg and > the other with yours mount point, so, the new dj enter in admin mode and > move moint points to it. BUT, the problem is that if he have a simple lag of > some seconds for ex, and he reconnect, the server do not start more, cause > the relay is waiting for djs.ogg and the dj is using yournick.ogg have an encoder send a never ending playlist to djs.ogg on your dj icecast and have each dj mountpoint state a fallback of djs.ogg. That way the listener relay will always pick something up. > Other question, is the lag. when there are a lag between dj and server, and > there are a disconnection from 1 secund yet, all listenners disconnect too. > This is bad, very bad. if the DJ mountpoint has a fallback to an existing stream like the never-ending playlist then the existing listeners will switchover. Whats missing is the automatic taking of listeners on re-connection, but that can be done manually through the web interface using the moveclients mechanism > i wanna sugest to coders, to have a option for send silence for some secunds > when the source disconnect, for the listenners dont disconnect, it would be > very very good, cause i dont know what to do. While a general mechanism to allow for fileserving in streams maybe possible, it's unlikely to be the answer for your situation. karl.

> > -- [ i have two channels running, and have renamed the binaries with 1 or > > 2 appended so that i can track them through ps , ( i don't know how to > > track actual PID's .. again, any suggestions here would be appreciated ) ] > > I think I'll be adding the pidfile tag to ices2 as well as it has its > uses. many thanks , karl . . --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Fri Dec 5 20:48:53 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:48:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] custom playlists -- radio brasil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i've been thinking .. what is to be said about generating custom playlists for users ondemand (, i know i had got this working successfully previously ) . i don't know how andre has his mountpoints set up , but assuming they are not set in stone , couldn't a lengthy playlist be sent with an intro/outtro stream pause inbetween , wouldn't winamp simply cycle through until it found an acceptable stream ? and the outro would cover that short gap for reconnect of the source .. ., its only a client side fix , but this may work until 2.1 .. a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tenminuteslater at hotmail.com Mon Dec 8 06:33:05 2003 From: tenminuteslater at hotmail.com (ronnie escobedo) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:33:05 +0000 Subject: [icecast] read cd text... Message-ID: Greetings list I recorded, edited and burned about 80 + cd's of music that I wanted to prep for streaming. I recorded these cd's as cda with cd-text and unfortunately the recorder software I was using did not allow me to print a playlist. Is there a way to export cd-text to a text file? I have tried cda2wav because I think this is what Gnome Toaster uses and my song titles or cd-text appear on Gnome Toaster. Any help is appreciated! _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Mon Dec 8 15:56:07 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:56:07 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems connecting source In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031208155613.DCEF95329B8@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi everybody, I have a little problem to connect my source to an Icecast2-beta2 server running on RH9. As a source encoder, I am using Winamp2/Oddcast on a windows machine. I can connect to the server but when I start sending bytes (when I start playing music), the source disconnects suddenly... It was working fine yesterday night and I didn't change anything in the parameters... I tried with another source computer but it was the same... I restarted the server, and rebooted the source computer but it didn't change anything. Does anybody have an idea? MAX

I was streaming Ogg Vorbis to a mount point which didn't end .ogg ogg123 played the stream without any problems, but other clients (xmms, Audion) just kept rebuffering and failed to detect that it as an Ogg encoded stream. Surely the client should use the MIME type provided by the server rather than rely on the suffix in a URL ?

Is there any attempt to encourage clients to be more standard ?

Cheers, nick. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de Mon Dec 8 16:13:04 2003 From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker, DM8TBR) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:13:04 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems connecting source In-Reply-To: <20031208155613.DCEF95329B8@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: <004701c3bda6$2a1dc240$c800a8c0@puck> Hi Max, > I can connect to the server but when I start sending bytes (when > I start playing music), the source disconnects suddenly... That sounds pretty like something in the config of oddcast got wrong. It seems to be the behaviour that Oddcast won't notify you it got disconnected before you send anything to the server. > It was working fine yesterday night and I didn't change anything in the > parameters... I tried with another source computer but it was the same... > I restarted the server, and rebooted the source computer but it didn't > change anything. Hmm really hard to tell what it was without seeing the logs. Could you give us the last 20 lines or so from both access.log and error.log for the icecast server? > Does anybody have an idea? I had such effects in the past too. In most cases it was plain PEBKAC... ;) (misspelled passwords, wrong mountpoints, ...) Thomas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at xiph.org Mon Dec 8 16:18:07 2003 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: 08 Dec 2003 16:18:07 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Problems connecting source In-Reply-To: <20031208155613.DCEF95329B8@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: <1070900286.2458.6.camel@bogus.hackers.club> On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:56, Macsym wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have a little problem to connect my source to an Icecast2-beta2 server > running on RH9. As a source encoder, I am using Winamp2/Oddcast on a windows > machine. I can connect to the server but when I start sending bytes (when I > start playing music), the source disconnects suddenly... > It was working fine yesterday night and I didn't change anything in the > parameters... I tried with another source computer but it was the same... I > restarted the server, and rebooted the source computer but it didn't change > anything. idle connections are dropped after a timeout, 10 seconds usually but it's configurable in the xml. Check the log file. karl.

We'd really, really, like to. The problems are generally very deep, though - and we don't have the resources to lobby everyone. We'd welcome people going and complaining to the creators of their favourite buggy audio players, though :-) Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Tue Dec 9 00:50:58 2003 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:50:58 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Ogg Clients In-Reply-To: <200312091139.54424.msmith@xiph.org> Message-ID: <20031209005058.GI12526@i.cantcode.com> > They should. A large number of them are horribly broken (I don't know about > audion, but in the case of both xmms and winamp, the plugin API is designed > such that the _plugin_ has to do the HTTP streaming itself - and the plugin > has to decide whether to handle the play request _before_ it actually starts > the request. I believe this was fixed in winamp3, but winamp3 had many other > even more serious bugs that made streaming not work reliably at all. It's even more broken than this. In both XMMS and Winamp, the mp3 plugin will grab EVERYTHING except urls that end in '.ogg'. You can easily grep and find this code in the XMMS plugin if you're curious. So anything that doens't end in .ogg won't even be looked at, itwill be shipped off to the mp3 plugin which will keep rebuffering trying to find valid data. But all this happens in such a way that the user can never know what is really going on. To my knowledge, only RealNetwork's code does this the right way. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Tue Dec 9 02:23:35 2003 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:23:35 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Ogg Clients In-Reply-To: <20031209005058.GI12526@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20031208201639.0316c1b8@www.oddsock.org> At 05:50 PM 12/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: >It's even more broken than this. > >In both XMMS and Winamp, the mp3 plugin will grab EVERYTHING except urls >that end in '.ogg'. You can easily grep and find this code in the XMMS >plugin if you're curious. So anything that doens't end in .ogg won't >even be looked at, itwill be shipped off to the mp3 plugin which will >keep rebuffering trying to find valid data. But all this happens in >such a way that the user can never know what is really going on. not to condone what the winamp mp3 input plugin has done, but as far as I know, the plugin actually only grabs .mp3 extentions and also urls without extensions. So it's not entirely correct to say that the mp3 input plugin grabs everything except .ogg. When winamp is told to play a file, it will pass the URL to each of the input plugins (via a call to the input-plugin-coded is_playable() function. If the input plugin returns 1 from this call, then that input plugin is invoked. Now I'm not sure in which order the input plugins are called, but I thought the mp3 input was invoked last as a sort of catch-all "if nothing else matches, lets try to assume it's a mp3 stream/file... although this is probably more than anyone wanted to know about the inner workings of winamp. Winamp 3 did fix this by looking at Content-types, but for some reason was still horribly broken for vorbis streams. It is unknown what technique Winamp 5 uses, but my guess is that it still uses the "extension technique" in order to support the existing 2.x input plugin architecture. This is all educated conjecture however since I, nor anyone else outside Nullsoft and a few contractors under NDAs, have seen the code for Winamp's input plugins or plugin architecture... :) oddsock

> At 05:29 PM 12/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: > > >Just one question, what is the most reliable source encoder for Windows? I > >would like a program able to run at windows startup, that would encode a > >soundcard input (from turntables from example) and that never stops... I am > >satisfied with Winamp/Oddcast for the moment but I am just wondering if > >there are other encoders even more reliable. > > the only other windows source client that supports icecast2 that I know of > is SAM2 (from audiorealm)...However, as far as reliability, Oddcast is > about as reliable as it gets....And I'm not just saying that because > hundreds of stations use it to broadcast, and that almost the entire > peercast network uses it to broadcast, but only because I wrote it. :) > > oddsock > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Tue Dec 9 08:36:29 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:36:29 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems connecting source In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20031208215841.031bc528@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: <20031209083636.7A392532A83@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi oddsock, I tested SAM2 in the past, but it's more a DJ software. I think Winamp/Oddcast is better for encoding. Anyway, I don't know where I get these problems from. I can connect to the server but when I start playing something, it disconnects instantly. It happens very often now, but it seems to happen only on one computer... It might be the Remote Desktop Protocol audio drivers that are influencing (I often connect remotely to this computer). Also, are there scripts available that start Winamp/Oddcast and connect to the Icecast server at Windows startup? With Windows' scheduled tasks, I can only start Winamp/Oddcast but I can't connect to the server automatically. Thanks for your answer, MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of oddsock Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:02 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Problems connecting source At 05:29 PM 12/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Just one question, what is the most reliable source encoder for Windows? I >would like a program able to run at windows startup, that would encode a >soundcard input (from turntables from example) and that never stops... I am >satisfied with Winamp/Oddcast for the moment but I am just wondering if >there are other encoders even more reliable. the only other windows source client that supports icecast2 that I know of is SAM2 (from audiorealm)...However, as far as reliability, Oddcast is about as reliable as it gets....And I'm not just saying that because hundreds of stations use it to broadcast, and that almost the entire peercast network uses it to broadcast, but only because I wrote it. :) oddsock

- -------------------------------------- Jeff Johnson Comfrey Consulting 503.998.7397 http://comfreyconsulting.com - -------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/1nXmXVYdBUbdCGIRAnBLAJ9KkKNza8Rh7EQbCTxAS2hCiM0E8wCeMbg4 KMr10utsQr3KRF/FFnIvh08= =Iojz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From djsnm at djsnm.com Wed Dec 10 02:02:13 2003 From: djsnm at djsnm.com (Scott Manley) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:02:13 -0800 Subject: [icecast] lowest streamable bitrate? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3FD67EA5.20608@djsnm.com> Jeff Johnson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey Gang, > > I figured this is a frequently asked question, however it is not in the > faq. > > i am wondering the lowest possible bit-rate to stream ogg at. > > is this an ogg limitation or is this dependent on the streaming server. > > Thanks in advance, > > (please reply to me too as i am not on the list.) > It depends on the source media - I encode low bitrate stuff at 22kHz mono and It clocks in at about 24kbit vorbis. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arc at indymedia.org Wed Dec 10 05:48:14 2003 From: arc at indymedia.org (Arc) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:48:14 -0500 Subject: [icecast] lowest streamable bitrate? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031210054814.GZ541@selket.nyfss.org> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:24:54PM -0800, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > i am wondering the lowest possible bit-rate to stream ogg at. > > is this an ogg limitation or is this dependent on the streaming server. I've managed 8kbps with 11khz mono source. Tho it sounded like crap. It'll soon be possible to stream Ogg Speex through Icecast, which will be capable of lower with voice content. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at sprout.org Wed Dec 10 17:42:18 2003 From: matt at sprout.org (Matt Boersma) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:42:18 -0600 Subject: [icecast] lowest streamable bitrate? In-Reply-To: <20031210054814.GZ541@selket.nyfss.org> Message-ID: <20031210114218.A16126@sprout.org> I also encode at 11khz and get about 8 kbps. It sounds roughly comparable to our 16K RealAudio stream: crap, but at half the bitrate. Search around for a thread on the "Vorbis GT3" encoder. Someone did some impressive work tweaking ogg vorbis to emit reasonably listenable sounds at 4-5Kbps, stereo even. A back burner project of mine is to merge his code with current vorbis sources so we can stream something intelligible at the lowest possible bitrate. Speex would be cool, too, but getting our listeners to install vorbis plugins, etc., is enough of a challenge for now. Matt On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:48:14AM -0500, Arc wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:24:54PM -0800, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > > > i am wondering the lowest possible bit-rate to stream ogg at. > > > > is this an ogg limitation or is this dependent on the streaming server. > > I've managed 8kbps with 11khz mono source. Tho it sounded like crap. > > It'll soon be possible to stream Ogg Speex through Icecast, which will > be capable of lower with voice content. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From registos at wesley.ath.cx Thu Dec 11 03:52:12 2003 From: registos at wesley.ath.cx (Wesley de Souza) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 03:52:12 -0000 Subject: [icecast] Problems connecting source Message-ID: <000c01c3bf9a$2c6744e0$89be71d4@wesley> Hi, everybody. Someone can help me? I am trying icecast and oddcast for the first time. So, when I try to connect to the server I get the following message: [2003-12-11 03:28:45] DBUG connection/connection.c Client connected [2003-12-11 03:28:45] DBUG admin/admin.c Got command (metadata) [2003-12-11 03:28:45] INFO admin/admin.c Bad or missing password on mount modification admin request (command: metadata) I set all the passwords the same. Thanks in adevance.

test test test --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Fri Dec 12 17:15:48 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] test In-Reply-To: <000d01c3c0d2$85949c00$0200a8c0@tranceai> Message-ID: yes . please resend in .ogg format ! ;)

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Nigel Smart wrote: > test failed :p > ----- Original Message ----- > From: hank > To: icecast at xiph.org > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:03 PM > Subject: [icecast] test > > > test test test --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Nigel at TranceAirWaves.com Fri Dec 12 17:17:15 2003 From: Nigel at TranceAirWaves.com (Nigel Smart) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:17:15 -0000 Subject: [icecast] test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c3c0d3$caa3f100$0200a8c0@tranceai> LOL :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adon Irani" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] test

> > yes > . please resend in .ogg format ! ;) > > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Nigel Smart wrote: > > > test failed :p > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: hank > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:03 PM > > Subject: [icecast] test > > > > > > test test test > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Fri Dec 12 17:20:09 2003 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:20:09 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Setting Up A Master-Slave Relay Problem In-Reply-To: <20031212073617.AF7BA5329AB@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20031212111840.02343d38@www.oddsock.org> At 04:36 PM 12/12/2003 +0900, you wrote: >Hi. >I d like to relay from my icecast2 server to the other Icecast2 server. >But I got the below error message. > >EROR connection/connection_create_source No content-type header, falling >back to backwards compatibility mode for icecast 1.x relays. Assuming >content is mp3. > >How do I solve it? currently, the master/slave relay logic is broken. I am in process of fixing it as we speak, and we will probably have a beta 3 release soon.... oddsock

Regards, Stefan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de Tue Dec 16 14:38:10 2003 From: dm8tbr at afthd.tu-darmstadt.de (Thomas B. Ruecker, DM8TBR) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:38:10 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 - Decode/Encode an Mount to another In-Reply-To: <008801c3c3e0$39a39ba0$c700a8c0@notebook> Message-ID: <003e01c3c3e2$3b0e3d40$d300a8c0@puck> Stream transcoder by oddsock should work fine for that purpose. http://www.oddsock.org/tools/streamTranscoder/

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From root at kezako.net Tue Dec 16 14:45:56 2003 From: root at kezako.net (root) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:45:56 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Setting Up A Master-Slave Relay Problem In-Reply-To: <1071250920.26564.34.camel@quasi.ksl.com> Message-ID: Hello, I'm also trying and trying to do that kind of configuration, but I'm getting no results. I want to send a high band width stream to an icecast2, having it reencoded to low and medium quality stream. I tried streamTranscoder_cl-1.1.0 but I can't have it connected to icecast2. Does anyone have some good information to do that ? (I want to have only one stream from the source to the icecast2 server. But perhaps I can reuse an instance on ices to reencode on the server side...) Thanks, Chris --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From iceuse at kezako.net Tue Dec 16 15:01:55 2003 From: iceuse at kezako.net (iceuse at kezako.net) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:01:55 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 - Decode/Encode an Mount to another In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Icecast2 - Decode/Encode an Mount to another> Message-ID: Hello Does somebody has a working configuration with streamTranscoder from oddsock and icecast2 ? I tried it without success, because of sockect connection errors. But I'm getting no trace on icecast side, and very few on streamTreanscoder side.. Chris --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Tue Dec 16 15:41:38 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:41:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Setting Up A Master-Slave Relay Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i can say more .. but what i've done is have ices/icecast run on the studio machine . i've got scripts to handle the start/stop of the show , and this then also triggers a single stream relayed to the main network . and this could be further altered to run a transcode session on the main server ( to create a lower quality ogg or mp3, etc ) (check out http://theDV8network.com , tho i don't have live shows up yet . i got the scripts working in house, next step is to rebuild the studio machine before we go live again on a regular basis .. ) but if you want to write off list , i could help you sketch out a suitable procedure for your setup ( my scripts aren't quite ready for public release, ) On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, root wrote: > Hello, > I'm also trying and trying to do that kind of configuration, but > I'm getting no results. I want to send a high band width stream to an icecast2, > having it reencoded to low and medium quality stream. I tried streamTranscoder_cl-1.1.0 > but I can't have it connected to icecast2. > Does anyone have some good information to do that ? > (I want to have only one stream from the source to the icecast2 server. But perhaps I can reuse an instance on ices to reencode on the server side...) > > Thanks, > Chris > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From iceuse at kezako.net Tue Dec 16 15:59:24 2003 From: iceuse at kezako.net (iceuse at kezako.net) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:59:24 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Setting Up A Master-Slave Relay Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What I have obtained up to now is: source->ices->internet->icecast2->listeners with working config files and scripts for ices and icecast2. Now, I'm trying icecast2->transcoder->icecast2 but streamTranscoder is not doig anything. I don't know if it is considered just as a http client of as a relay from icecast2-source point of view. Any idea? Thanks, Chris --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adon at yorku.ca Tue Dec 16 16:16:35 2003 From: adon at yorku.ca (Adon Irani) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:16:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Setting Up A Master-Slave Relay Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Now, I'm trying icecast2->transcoder->icecast2 > but streamTranscoder is not doig anything. I don't know if it is considered just as a http client of as a relay from icecast2-source point of view. for starters, make sure your sources allowed is greater than 1 . and otherwise, perhaps send your transcoder.cfg file . . ( i know it does work well once it is setup correctly, but until then its finekey ! ) a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Wed Dec 17 02:53:27 2003 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:53:27 -0700 Subject: [icecast] winamp 5 release Message-ID: <026b01c3c448$f2b05e40$6401a8c0@ripper> Anyone have success streaming a icecast2 ogg vorbis stream with the latest winamp5? Mine crashes instantly

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration

> . Is it possible to know the song's duration and store this > information into an XML file? i wonder also ! :)

, glad to hear that you are still working on this ! please post the list as you update the client/player . thanks ., a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From macsym69 at yahoo.fr Wed Dec 17 08:14:26 2003 From: macsym69 at yahoo.fr (Macsym) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:14:26 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Status.xml In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031217081417.131935329A5@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Hi Adon, The database is also a nice idea, I didn't think about it. Just one suggestion, you could maybe run the script that updates the metadata to the DB on the ENCODER computer. It might reduce the delay... MAX -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of Adon Irani Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:04 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Status.xml > By storing both the Flash client and the XML file on the same web server, I > think it would decrease the charge of the streaming server. > > . Can I set up Icecast to store this file on a remote web server (by > uploading it through FTP for example)? just an initial response ., i had a similar issue w/ displaying a n0w playing bar on my site . it would take a second or so to check the status.xsl file for listener count, mountpoint, etc . . now , i have a cron job dump the status.xsl file on the minute . afterwhich i update a sql table as to what is playing . , there's the minute delay in accuracy , but otherwise this works well . with the file dump , you can run consequitive grep commands quite quickly to parse out the important fields . i would suspect , you could just as easily check the metadata through such a script . ( although i have yet to implement this -- all my old archives don't have correct metadata and i haven't started live studio broadcasts again as yet under the new system .. )

> . Is it possible to know the song's duration and store this > information into an XML file? i wonder also ! :)

thanks ., a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From groups at mediacast1.com Wed Dec 17 11:09:04 2003 From: groups at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:09:04 -0700 Subject: [icecast] winamp 5 release In-Reply-To: <20031217045517.GU12526@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <032801c3c48e$2f4420e0$6401a8c0@ripper> > Honestly, it really sucks that we work so hard on this stuff, and you're > out there recommending the inferior solution because of a bug in 3rd > party software. If it was something we could fix I'd understand, but no > one should be relying on Nullsoft for anything, and I'm really tired of > their products making us look bad. Best damn thing i heard in a while!!! Nullsoft = lazyware i asked them about production/dev of shoutcast and there response was "Why should we, it works fine"

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Moffitt" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release

> > I'm having to recommend my clients to use MP3 for streaming to supermarkets, > > malls etc because of this problem. My software relies on using Winamp. > > It's too risky if there is an interruption and it crashes. > > How do they like paying $15k in royalties a year? Or did you not tell > them about that part? :) > > Honestly, it really sucks that we work so hard on this stuff, and you're > out there recommending the inferior solution because of a bug in 3rd > party software. If it was something we could fix I'd understand, but no > one should be relying on Nullsoft for anything, and I'm really tired of > their products making us look bad. > > jack. > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Levis" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release

> Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Honestly, it really sucks that we work so hard on this stuff, and you're > > out there recommending the inferior solution > > I agree it sucks. I would switch to the only Windows player that seems to > work properly -- Foobar2000 if it offered the same sort of control/API from > external programs. > > Regards, > Ross Levis > http://www.stationplaylist.com > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

> Anyone have extensive usage with this windows player? > http://www.quinnware.com/ > > Looks interesting. > > > Dave St John > Mediacast1 Administration > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Levis" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release > > > > Jack Moffitt wrote: > > > Honestly, it really sucks that we work so hard on this stuff, and you're > > > out there recommending the inferior solution > > > > I agree it sucks. I would switch to the only Windows player that seems to > > work properly -- Foobar2000 if it offered the same sort of control/API > from > > external programs. > > > > Regards, > > Ross Levis > > http://www.stationplaylist.com > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mrakotom at free.fr Wed Dec 17 14:17:30 2003 From: mrakotom at free.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:17:30 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Does developpers confirm it ? Message-ID: <200312171517.30138.mrakotom@free.fr> > > 22000 > 1 > 0 > 1 > 35000 > 30000 > 40000 > I don't know whether that syntax is valid anymore, I suspect it isn't. I suggest the following in your section: 44100 22050 1 -1 22050 1 -- Rakotomandimby Mihamina Andrianifaharana Tel : +33 2 38 76 43 65 http://stko.dyndns.info/site_principal/Members/mihamina --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at xiph.org Wed Dec 17 15:52:59 2003 From: karl at xiph.org (Karl Heyes) Date: 17 Dec 2003 15:52:59 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Does developpers confirm it ? In-Reply-To: <200312171517.30138.mrakotom@free.fr> Message-ID: <1071676378.6963.4.camel@bogus.hackers.club> On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 14:17, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > > > > 22000 > > 1 > > 0 > > 1 > > 35000 > > 30000 > > 40000 > > > > I don't know whether that syntax is valid anymore, I suspect it isn't. I > suggest the following in your section: minor point, the samplerate is usually 22050 quality and nominal-bitrate are mutually exclusive, but the nominal bitrate would be taken and currently implies managed mode as well. At the moment it's better to use the quality tags. karl.

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Levis" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release

I also have an improved version of status.xsl there.

Cheers,

nick.

>Hi everybody, > >If I understand well, the purpose of XSL files is re-formatting XML files. >When I checked the admin folder, I saw status.xsl but I did not see the >source XML file (status.xml?). > >If status.XML (NOT status.XSL) exists, where is it located? Is there any way >I can store status.xml or status.xsl on a remote HTTP/FTP (not an Icecast2 >relay) server? > >Thanks in advance for your help! > >MAX > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From groups at mediacast1.com Wed Dec 17 19:39:25 2003 From: groups at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:39:25 -0700 Subject: [icecast] winamp 5 release In-Reply-To: <20031217164812.982635329B7@motherfish-II.xiph.org> Message-ID: <005101c3c4d5$7c29faf0$6401a8c0@ripper> > I installed it one month ago and was very surprised by the sound quality. > The stream seemed to sound better in Quintessential than in Winamp. hmmmm, thats good to hear, im going to give it a shot and put it through the wringers.

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macsym" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [icecast] winamp 5 release

> Hi Dave, > > I installed it one month ago and was very surprised by the sound quality. > The stream seemed to sound better in Quintessential than in Winamp. > > MAX > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf Of > Dave St John > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:11 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release > > Anyone have extensive usage with this windows player? > http://www.quinnware.com/ > > Looks interesting. > > > Dave St John > Mediacast1 Administration > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Levis" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [icecast] winamp 5 release > > > > Jack Moffitt wrote: > > > Honestly, it really sucks that we work so hard on this stuff, and you're > > > out there recommending the inferior solution > > > > I agree it sucks. I would switch to the only Windows player that seems to > > work properly -- Foobar2000 if it offered the same sort of control/API > from > > external programs. > > > > Regards, > > Ross Levis > > http://www.stationplaylist.com > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macsym" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [icecast] winamp 5 release

I keep looking at the docs and it talks about setting the client but what do I have to do to set client Thanks for any info, Nestor :-)

--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From josephus at freemail.hu Sat Dec 20 20:22:44 2003 From: josephus at freemail.hu (Josephus) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:22:44 +0100 Subject: [icecast] I am new - how to set client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c3c737$077babe0$3552c5d5@josephuushome> first of all you need to learn how icecast works, what id does, etc... ServerSide u need: -icecast for example :) SourceSide u need: -winamp, ices, or any other suitable util (not tested shoutcast source with icecast) ClientSide everybody needs: -some_stream_player (eg. winamp) BTW, what u need to know here is that icecast only streams stuffs to multiple directions, from multiple mountpoints With the source stuff you can stream to icecast generally 3 types of them: - livestream - playlist - script(or external program) based input And to answer to your question NO You dont have to dl icecast to your "client" machine. And next time you should really care about the docs, howtos, etcs hanging around the web Josephus

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nestor" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [icecast] I am new - how to set client

> > I am running apache server and listening to port 8000 > > I am reading the docs and I do not know how to get the client to listen. > I have the serve running on 1 machine and when I access the site from the > client machine > all I get is the XML file and on top of the page it says: > > This XML file does not appear to have any style information > associated with it. The document tree is shown below. > > I do not know what to do to set the client. DO I need to download ICECAST > on the client machine? > > I have winamp, real audio and Microsoft player on the client > > Can I set my mount point to be my cd-rom player? > > > I keep looking at the docs and it talks about setting the client > but what do I have to do to set client > > Thanks for any info, > > Nestor :-) > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephus" first of all you need to learn how icecast works, what id does, etc... ServerSide u need: -icecast for example :) SourceSide u need: -winamp, ices, or any other suitable util (not tested shoutcast source with icecast) ClientSide everybody needs: -some_stream_player (eg. winamp) BTW, what u need to know here is that icecast only streams stuffs to multiple directions, from multiple mountpoints With the source stuff you can stream to icecast generally 3 types of them: - livestream - playlist - script(or external program) based input And to answer to your question NO You dont have to dl icecast to your "client" machine. And next time you should really care about the docs, howtos, etcs hanging around the web Josephus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nestor" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [icecast] I am new - how to set client > > I am running apache server and listening to port 8000 > > I am reading the docs and I do not know how to get the client to listen. > I have the serve running on 1 machine and when I access the site from the > client machine > all I get is the XML file and on top of the page it says: > > This XML file does not appear to have any style information > associated with it. The document tree is shown below. > > I do not know what to do to set the client. DO I need to download ICECAST > on the client machine? > > I have winamp, real audio and Microsoft player on the client > > Can I set my mount point to be my cd-rom player? > > > I keep looking at the docs and it talks about setting the client > but what do I have to do to set client > > Thanks for any info, > > Nestor :-) > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From djmoguta at hotmail.com Sat Dec 20 22:57:12 2003 From: djmoguta at hotmail.com (Christopher G) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:57:12 -0500 Subject: [icecast] I am new - how to set client In-Reply-To: <[icecast] I am new - how to set client> Message-ID: You need the Oddcast plugin for WinAmp 2/5. http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv2_wa2/ >From: "Nestor" >Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org >To: >Subject: Re: [icecast] I am new - how to set client Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 >13:59:43 -0800 > >Thanks Josephus for your advice. > >That is the reason why I have joined this group...to learn. >I have never done anything with streaming, but we must start somewhere. >I do work with the web as a programmer. > >As I mentioned before, I do have winamp 5 and I have the server running > >I still do not know how to tie up winamp on my client machine to the >server machine. > >Does some one have aworking copy of a icecast.xml. I am using the default >because so far >I am only using in my internal network. > >I have read the config instructions 3 tiems and I am missing something, >perhaps to obvious >hopefully, I will get over that hurdle soon. > >ServerSide - I have icecast Beta version 3 >SourceSide - I do not know what you mean but I have > winamp on both my client and server machines. >ClientSide - I have winamp version 5 > >Livestream, playlist, script - I want to be able to do livestream from my >cdrom > >BTW, I have been looking for "How to" and Iam still looking. One of the >"How to" >in the list really points to a porno site. > >I think I am just missing how to tell my winamp on my server or client >machines >to send the stream to my icecast server. > >learning more and more! > >Thanks again, > >Nestor :-) > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Josephus" > >first of all you need to learn how icecast works, what id does, etc... > >ServerSide u need: >-icecast for example :) > >SourceSide u need: >-winamp, ices, or any other suitable util (not tested shoutcast source with >icecast) > >ClientSide everybody needs: >-some_stream_player (eg. winamp) > >BTW, what u need to know here is that icecast only streams stuffs to >multiple directions, from multiple mountpoints > >With the source stuff you can stream to icecast >generally 3 types of them: - livestream - playlist - script(or external >program) based input > >And to answer to your question NO You dont have to dl icecast to your >"client" machine. >And next time you should really care about the docs, howtos, etcs hanging >around the web > >Josephus > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nestor" >To: >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:11 PM >Subject: [icecast] I am new - how to set client > > > > > I am running apache server and listening to port 8000 > > > > I am reading the docs and I do not know how to get the client to listen. > > I have the serve running on 1 machine and when I access the site from >the > > client machine > > all I get is the XML file and on top of the page it says: > > > > This XML file does not appear to have any style information > > associated with it. The document tree is shown below. > > > > I do not know what to do to set the client. DO I need to download >ICECAST > > on the client machine? > > > > I have winamp, real audio and Microsoft player on the client > > > > Can I set my mount point to be my cd-rom player? > > > > > > I keep looking at the docs and it talks about setting the client > > but what do I have to do to set client > > > > Thanks for any info, > > > > Nestor :-) > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 12/18/2003 > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From effebi at codicelibero.net Sun Dec 21 11:07:09 2003 From: effebi at codicelibero.net (effebi) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:07:09 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 as primary server and authenticated darkice Message-ID: <20031221110709.GA1018@localhost> hello, I need to set up icecast2 as indipendent server, I mean I have my own domain and IP address where I'm going to install icecast2, my server have to be able to authenticate every SourcesSide (eg: winampa, darkice) but can't udersand something, as like as difference between "master server" and "relay server" and, in my darkice confinguration file, where i have to put "username" to authenticate; i have to offer streaming service on my machine to more than 2 people with username/password only.

here's my (mistaken) icecast.xml

Not Currently Used Not Currently Used 100 2 5 102400 30 15 10 hackme jackpw hackme admin hackme

MyDomain.net 8000 /example-complex.ogg othersource hackmemore 1 /example2.ogg 1 /usr/share/icecast /var/log/icecast /usr/share/icecast/web /usr/share/icecast/admin access.log error.log 4 0

here's my darkice.cfg (it works on an public icecast1.3 server) # this section describes general aspects of the live streaming session [general] duration = 0 # duration of encoding, in seconds. 0 means forever bufferSecs = 5 # size of internal slip buffer, in seconds # this section describes the audio input that will be streamed [input] device = /dev/dsp # OSS DSP soundcard device for the audio input sampleRate = 22050 # sample rate in Hz. try 11025, 22050 or 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 # bits per sample. try 16 channel = 1 # channels. 1 = mono, 2 = stereo # this section describes a streaming connection to an IceCast server # there may be up to 8 of these sections, named [icecast-0] ... [icecast-7] # these can be mixed with [icecast2-x] and [shoutcast-x] sections [icecast-0] bitrateMode = cbr # constant bit rate bitrate = 16 # bitrate of the mp3 stream sent to the server quality = 0.8 # encoding quality server = MyDomain.net # host name of the server port = 8000 # port of the IceCast server, usually 8000 password = password # source password to the IceCast server mountPoint = test # mount point of this stream on the IceCast server

thanks for help :) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darren at dazdaz.org Mon Dec 22 15:39:53 2003 From: darren at dazdaz.org (Darren) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:39:53 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Ice Cast / win32 basic help Message-ID: <15518797108.20031222163953@dazdaz.org> Hi, I've downloaded and experimented a little with the latest Windows Icecast, aka icecast2_win32_2.0_beta3_setup.exe and can't seem to work out how to configure it with the xml file. I wondered if anybody had a very basic guide for a complete newbie. Perhaps a very simplified xml config, that would make understanding how this works much, much easier. I can login to http://localhost:8000/admin/ So to tune in, do I do this in winamp with ctrl + l ? Winamp 5 just says connecting and does nothing more. http://localhost:8001/web/example.ogg I would be happy to test any win32 gui. I'm going through the archives, and experimenting some more but guidance would be very much appreciated. Are suggestions welcome to the list ? How about a simplified config example alongside the distribution, that would be great. Kind regards, Darren

if($success!=2){ //if connection fputs($fp,"GET http://$password@$ip:$port/admin/stats.xml"); //get stats.xml while(!feof($fp)) { $page .= fgets($fp, 1000); } $loop = array("client_connections","source_connections"); //define all the variables to get (delte any ones you don't want) $y=0; //dummy variable for while loop while($loop[$y]!=''){ //while there are things in loop $pageed = ereg_replace(".*<$loop[$y]>", "", $page); // extract data $phpname = strtolower($loop[$y]); //make names in loop lowercase for variable names $$phpname = ereg_replace(".*", "", $pageed); //finish extracting data if($loop[$y]==SERVERGENRE || $loop[$y]==SERVERTITLE || $loop[$y]==SONGTITLE) //if for code clean-up (if you have problems with variables with URL encoding (i.e. %20 for space put them in this loop) $$phpname = urldecode($$phpname); // replace URL code with regular text (i.e. %20 = space) ##More stuff that prints## echo ('$'.$phpname.' = '.$$phpname.'
'); ##Stop here. Your server will be upset if you comment out the next line of code ($y++;).## $y++; //update dummy variable for while loop } fclose($fp); //close connection echo "$client_connection"; } ?>

but here is what i get instead for the output: $client_connections = MountPoint,Connections,Stream Name,Current Listeners,Description,Currently Playing,Stream URL Global,Client:83075 Source: 184..... exactly like the file status2.xsl can anyone show me what is wrong w/ the code above? thx a lot

----- Original Message ----- From: "Adon Irani" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] get status.xml's variable using a php file

> > hello Phi ., what operating system are you developing under ? if you are > using linux, i would be happy to send you my simple scripts ( as you > requested ). but they rely on lynx and grep . i don't know if windows has > equivalents. > > a:/, > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Phi Tran wrote: > > > i don't khow really much about php > > i just used the source file from casterclub.com for the shoutcast server and > > improvise/adjust it from there for the icecast server. > > > > apparrently i don't know how to authenticate correctly as this is what is > > returned as well > > > > $client_connections = HTTP/1.0 401 Authentication Required WWW-Authenticate: > > Basic realm="Icecast2 Server" You need to authenticate > > > > fputs($fp,"GET /admin/stats.xsl "); > > > > where do i put the $password and $username in the code above? thx > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From groups at mediacast1.com Tue Dec 23 07:07:07 2003 From: groups at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:07:07 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Status v1.3 Message-ID: <001901c3c923$6c4a8fd0$6401a8c0@ripper> Tar http://www.mediacastone.com/~cvscaster/dev/icecast2_status/v1.3/icecast2_status_v1.3.tar source http://www.mediacastone.com/~cvscaster/dev/icecast2_status/v1.3/source/ Please let me know if there are any bugs or problems admin at mediacast1.com, this script parses the stats.xml file and creates php variables, you will need to create a seperate php page and incorperate your own display results, with the associated php variables. examples will be added soon as i get this tested out for bugs etc....

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Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Stauf" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: [icecast] Hello everyone, here is some php code.

> Okay, > So remember that question I had last week about taking a bunch of relay servers > and greping the status2.xsl file for the number of listeners? I coded it. I > have to apologize right now, as its krufty, nasty, braindead code. But it > works, and I'm rather proud that after being up as long as I have been up > and drinking as much coffee, it works. It should be attached to this e-mail. > > I would also like to thank Michael Smith, Karl Heyes, Kerry Cox, and a host of > others for helping me out with my icecast2 setup, and for writing documentation > and code. I hope the best of all y'all this holiday season. Now, I am carefully going to make sure to attach my code with Mutt, and go to bed. > > P.s. If my code sucks, if you have written better code, if you have questions on > the code, or have any other feedback, I would love it hear it. > > --Stauf > | http://radio.freshcheese.net "Background noise for the masses." > |---- >

Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phi Tran" To: Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: [icecast] metadata update is delayed for 2 songs

how can i collect such metadata dump? dave, can u help me.. as i don't have access to the server..? can u fwd the metadata dump file to michael for me plz.. thx... -----Original Message----- From: Michael Smith To: icecast at xiph.org Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:04:48 +1100 Subject: Re: [icecast] metadata update is delayed for 2 songs On Monday 29 December 2003 14:54, Phi Tran wrote: > well > > when i streamed the station using foobar.. then foobar2000 displayed the > metadata correctly... > > but at that time.. when i checked out status2.xml, stats.xsl and stats.xml > , the metadata is displaced incorrectly.. two songs behind.. > > i've tested the stream broadcasting using winamp2, foobar200 w/ oddcast dsp > plug in. > > you can check out my station at http://ny.icecast.net:8646/play.ogg w/ > foobar2000 and .. and then check out http://ny.icecast.net:8646/status2.xsl > > thx > This shows that either a) Icecast is incorrectly sending the wrong metadata, or b) Icecast is never receiving the correct metadata, due (presumably) to some bug in your source client. I think b) is much more likely, since nobody before you has ever said anything to suggest that icecast loses track of metadata updates. Listening to the stream doesn't help - I'd have to (at least) see full network dumps of the tcp stream between the source client (fb2k?) and icecast2. That would (eventually) show whether the source is sending the correct data or not. If you can collect such a network dump, could you send it to me off-list (it's likely to be big)? A section covering at least one metadata change would be required. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.