From btimby_indy at yahoo.com Tue Oct 1 03:19:55 2002 From: btimby_indy at yahoo.com (Ben Timby) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] First time user, problems on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20021001031955.67230.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I am trying to get Icecast working on my FreeBSD box. I did the following: ./configure --with-crypt The output looked good, there were no errors, I was instructed to run `make`, I did so and received the following: -- make all-recursive Making all in src Making all in authenticate gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -D_REENTRANT -I../../src -pthread -pthreads -g -Wall -c basic.c gcc: unrecognized option `-pthreads' In file included from basic.c:70: ../../src/memory.h:25: mcheck.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../src/memory.h:29, from basic.c:70: /usr/include/malloc.h:2: warning: #warning "this file includes which is deprecated, use instead" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/btimby/icecast-1.3.12/src/authenticate. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/btimby/icecast-1.3.12/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/btimby/icecast-1.3.12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/btimby/icecast-1.3.12. -- Does anyone have any insight for me? Thank you in advance. Ben Timby __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From btimby_indy at yahoo.com Tue Oct 1 04:40:32 2002 From: btimby_indy at yahoo.com (Ben Timby) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] First time user, problems on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20021001031955.67230.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021001044032.34256.qmail@web10904.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry to waste your bandwidth. I unpacked the files, and it worked the fifth time thru. Not sure what I did differently, but oh well. I am now trying to get liveice to work, can anyone help with that? I first had to modify the configure script, I had to change the first line: #! /bin/sh to: #!/bin/sh to get it to run. I got it running, but when I do a make, I get the following: -- /mkdirs:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/btimby/liveice. -- I know I am lame, but any help is appreciated! Ben Timby.

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr Wed Oct 2 20:06:08 2002 From: malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr (Cédric Mallet) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:06:08 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Number of clients Message-ID: <2777585081.20021002220608@cti.ecp.fr> I noticed on IceCast1 that the number of clients displayed in the admin console is very often higher than the number of clients provided by "listeners". Is it a bug or is there a problem on my server ? -- Ced

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From S1258586 at cedarville.edu Wed Oct 2 21:02:17 2002 From: S1258586 at cedarville.edu (Nathan Paul Flood) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:02:17 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Number of clients In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Number of clients> Message-ID: Clients includes sources admins and listeners. Say you have a server with two sources 5 listeners and you are logged in as admin through telnet you should have 8 clients. >>> C?dric Mallet 10/02/02 04:06PM >>> I noticed on IceCast1 that the number of clients displayed in the admin console is very often higher than the number of clients provided by "listeners". Is it a bug or is there a problem on my server ? -- Ced

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Thu Oct 3 07:06:50 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 09:06:50 +0200 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect Message-ID: <3D9BEC8A.8080102@tyrell.hu> Hi, I have the following problem with icecast2: I send a stream for some time. Then the source disconnects (maybe just by abruptly dropping the network connection), and I reconnect immediately. My problem is, that these reconnects don't succeed regulary (say, 20-30% of the time). The same setup worked well with icecast 1.x.

Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Oct 3 09:14:05 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:14:05 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3D9BEC8A.8080102@tyrell.hu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021003191405.41881de0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 09:06 AM 10/3/02 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >I have the following problem with icecast2: I send a stream for some >time. Then the source disconnects (maybe just by abruptly dropping the >network connection), and I reconnect immediately. My problem is, that >these reconnects don't succeed regulary (say, 20-30% of the time). > >The same setup worked well with icecast 1.x. > What does the server log say about why the connection is refused? Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Thu Oct 3 09:19:44 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:19:44 +0200 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021003191405.41881de0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <3D9C0BB0.7000104@tyrell.hu> Michael Smith wrote: > What does the server log say about why the connection is refused? there are two sources replaced at 4:00 AM, /tilos_low.ogg and /tilos_high.ogg related section from error log:

[2002-10-03 04:00:00] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-03 04:00:00] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting [2002-10-03 04:00:00] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-03 04:00:00] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting [2002-10-03 04:00:02] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source logging in at mountpoint "/tilos_low.ogg" [2002-10-03 04:00:02] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source logging in at mountpoint "/tilos_high.ogg" [2002-10-03 04:00:07] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:00:07] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source found for client [2002-10-03 04:00:07] DBUG source/source_main Client added [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source found for client [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source found for client [2002-10-03 04:01:02] DBUG source/source_main Client added [2002-10-03 04:01:03] DBUG source/source_main Client added [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source found for client [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source found for client [2002-10-03 04:01:38] DBUG source/source_main Client added [2002-10-03 04:01:39] DBUG source/source_main Client added [2002-10-03 04:02:30] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-03 04:02:30] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting [2002-10-03 04:02:31] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-03 04:02:31] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting [2002-10-03 04:02:32] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Client connected [2002-10-03 04:02:32] DBUG connection/_handle_get_request Source not found for client

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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Oct 3 10:21:42 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:21:42 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3D9C0BB0.7000104@tyrell.hu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021003202142.412c4530@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 11:19 AM 10/3/02 +0200, you wrote: >Michael Smith wrote: >> What does the server log say about why the connection is refused? > >there are two sources replaced at 4:00 AM, /tilos_low.ogg and >/tilos_high.ogg > >related section from error log: This looks like the two sources successfully connected, some clients then successfully connected to those sources, and then the sources disconnected later on. Where's the problem? Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Thu Oct 3 10:41:28 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 12:41:28 +0200 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021003202142.412c4530@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <3D9C1ED8.9010104@tyrell.hu> Michael Smith wrote: > This looks like the two sources successfully connected, some clients > then successfully connected to those sources, and then the sources > disconnected later on. Where's the problem? The problem is that the source does not intend to disconnect. The whole setup is the following: 1. server machine, with both icecast 1.x and icecast2 installed 2. encoder, running one darkice instance, encoding 3 streams: two Ogg Vorbis sent to the icecast2 server, one mp3, sent to the icecast 1.x server each encoding session is supposed to last 4 hours. in the setup above, both connections to the icecast2 server are dropped, while the connection to the icecast 1.x is not. I can not think of any other reason than icecast2 drops the connection. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Oct 3 14:18:51 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:18:51 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3D9C1ED8.9010104@tyrell.hu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021004001851.41db1950@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 12:41 PM 10/3/02 +0200, you wrote: >Michael Smith wrote: >> This looks like the two sources successfully connected, some clients >> then successfully connected to those sources, and then the sources >> disconnected later on. Where's the problem? > >The problem is that the source does not intend to disconnect. > >The whole setup is the following: > >1. server machine, with both icecast 1.x and icecast2 installed >2. encoder, running one darkice instance, encoding 3 streams: two Ogg >Vorbis sent to the icecast2 server, one mp3, sent to the icecast 1.x server > >each encoding session is supposed to last 4 hours. > >in the setup above, both connections to the icecast2 server are dropped, >while the connection to the icecast 1.x is not. I can not think of any >other reason than icecast2 drops the connection. > Ah. My confusion comes from your initial report, which said "these reconnects don't succeed", which directly contradicts what you said here. I've had a look at the source. There was one possible (but very unlikely - it requires certain buffers to be exactly the right size at exactly the wrong time, as well as some other things happening simultaneously) bug, which I've now fixed. I also added extra debug-level log statements on source disconnect, which should tell you with a little more detail what the reason for the source disconnect was. If it now works reliably/correctly, then the obscure bug was indeed being triggered. If not, this is almost certainly a (source) client bug. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mkong at intisoft.com Thu Oct 3 16:27:35 2002 From: mkong at intisoft.com (mkong at intisoft.com) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:27:35 +0800 Subject: [icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream Message-ID: <3d9c6ff72d4f71.11310829@mail.intisoft.com> Is there a way to force a client to always start playing at the beginning of a stream? Currently, the client starts from wherever ices is playing at, unfortunately, this is not ideal for my situation. Thanks in advance. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Thu Oct 3 16:43:06 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 18:43:06 +0200 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021004001851.41db1950@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <3D9C739A.1010401@tyrell.hu> Michael Smith wrote: > Ah. My confusion comes from your initial report, which said > "these reconnects don't succeed", which directly contradicts what you > said here. I don't see the contradicition, but never mind. > If it now works reliably/correctly, then the obscure bug was indeed > being triggered. If not, this is almost certainly a (source) client > bug. Thanks for the fix. I'll apply it the next time things break..

Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Thu Oct 3 18:42:33 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:42:33 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream In-Reply-To: <3d9c6ff72d4f71.11310829@mail.intisoft.com> Message-ID: <3D9C8F99.8011DF5B@gmx.net> mkong at intisoft.com wrote: > Is there a way to force a client to always start playing at the beginning of a stream? Yes, point the client to a webserver like Apache or Icecast's fileserve. One way to do this without confusing the visitors would be to use an .m3u playlist file. For example: /var/www/htdocs/ondemandstream.ogg and /var/www/htdocs/ondemandstream.m3u exist, and the .m3u contains one line like http://>/ondemandstream.ogg The visitor's browser will download the .m3u, pass it on to a client like Winamp, which will then stream the file ondemandstream.ogg off the server. You don't need to set up a separate web server to achieve this, e.g. Icecast2 has the directive that allows people to download/stream arbitary files from Icecast2's directory. I guess Icecast1 has similar functionality. > Currently, the client starts from wherever ices is playing at, unfortunately, this is not ideal for my situation. That's the nature of live streaming.

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kashima at dontaku.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 3 20:56:21 2002 From: kashima at dontaku.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Shingo KASHIMA) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:56:21 +0900 Subject: [icecast] Number of Icecast Message-ID: <20021004055621C.kashima@dontaku.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp> Hi, everbody. Do you know how many Icecast server are there in the globe ? Of cource, less than RealServer. But, I Like Icecast, especailiy a relay function. Please tell me. --- Shingo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Thu Oct 3 21:14:20 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:14:20 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 connect / reconnect In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021004001851.41db1950@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021003160943.02f017e8@www.oddsock.org> while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... you can see this very clearly by using wget on a icecast2 vorbis stream, and when my source client sends new metadata, wget exits immediately..so this is telling me that icecast2 is definately closing the socket...most people probably don't notice this much because I believe both winamp and xmms will immediately try reconnect at least once, which succeeds (and has the also unlikely effect of rebuffering many times)... anyway, I would love to provide a patch for this for icecast2, as I am currently swamped with work, but I thought I would at least mention it.... oddsock At 12:18 AM 10/4/2002 +1000, you wrote: >At 12:41 PM 10/3/02 +0200, you wrote: > >Michael Smith wrote: > >> This looks like the two sources successfully connected, some clients > >> then successfully connected to those sources, and then the sources > >> disconnected later on. Where's the problem? > > > >The problem is that the source does not intend to disconnect. > > > >The whole setup is the following: > > > >1. server machine, with both icecast 1.x and icecast2 installed > >2. encoder, running one darkice instance, encoding 3 streams: two Ogg > >Vorbis sent to the icecast2 server, one mp3, sent to the icecast 1.x server > > > >each encoding session is supposed to last 4 hours. > > > >in the setup above, both connections to the icecast2 server are dropped, > >while the connection to the icecast 1.x is not. I can not think of any > >other reason than icecast2 drops the connection. > > > >Ah. My confusion comes from your initial report, which said >"these reconnects don't succeed", which directly contradicts what you >said here. > >I've had a look at the source. There was one possible (but very unlikely - >it requires certain buffers to be exactly the right size at exactly the >wrong time, as well as some other things happening simultaneously) bug, >which I've now fixed. I also added extra debug-level log statements >on source disconnect, which should tell you with a little more detail >what the reason for the source disconnect was. > >If it now works reliably/correctly, then the obscure bug was indeed >being triggered. If not, this is almost certainly a (source) client >bug. > >Michael > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From shade at chemlab.org Fri Oct 4 00:58:16 2002 From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik) Date: 03 Oct 2002 20:58:16 -0400 Subject: [icecast] wow Message-ID: <1033693096.9101.17.camel@eris> massive props to the vorbis and icecast2 people.. this is truely impressive stuff guys. we're going live with pure icecast2/vorbis monday. its scary that 56K vorbis sounds almost as good as 128K mp3. this is a lifesaver as our isp is about to pull the plug for excessive bandwidth usage :> -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mkong at intisoft.com Fri Oct 4 02:49:22 2002 From: mkong at intisoft.com (mkong at intisoft.com) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:49:22 +0800 Subject: [icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3d9d01b29e6ca7.79315276@mail.intisoft.com> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I have tried it already, but the result is noticably worse than doing a "real" stream with IceCast. I have tried both web server and IceCast static/fileserv methods. O well, I guess I would just have to live with it. Thanks. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Fri Oct 4 05:18:48 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 07:18:48 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream In-Reply-To: <3d9d01b29e6ca7.79315276@mail.intisoft.com> Message-ID: <3D9D24B8.30A24AA0@gmx.net> mkong at intisoft.com wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I have tried it already, but the result is noticably worse than doing a "real" stream with IceCast. I have tried both web server and IceCast static/fileserv methods. Noticably worse? In what way? If you create the "downloadable" stream the same way as you've set up your live stream, I can't think of any quality differences. It's really the same (all http streaming, nothing out of the ordinary, same data).

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mkong at intisoft.com Fri Oct 4 06:52:33 2002 From: mkong at intisoft.com (mkong at intisoft.com) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:52:33 +0800 Subject: [icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Always starts playing at the beginning of a stream> Message-ID: <3d9d3ab178d084.78132488@mail.intisoft.com> I can't remember the result when using the static/fileserv feature of IceCast. But when I used the web server (Apache) to serve the mp3 file, there was one time the stream stop in the middle of the playback and didn't recover. In terms of quality, it is comparable to using "live" stream with IceCast. And using http file serving method, I loose the feature of naming and providing additional information of the stream (I guess if I know what header information to send, that could be done as well).

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Fri Oct 4 09:13:02 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:13:02 +1000 Subject: [icecast] wow In-Reply-To: <1033693096.9101.17.camel@eris> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021004191302.412288e0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 08:58 PM 10/3/02 -0400, you wrote: >massive props to the vorbis and icecast2 people.. this is truely >impressive stuff guys. we're going live with pure icecast2/vorbis >monday. its scary that 56K vorbis sounds almost as good as 128K mp3. >this is a lifesaver as our isp is about to pull the plug for excessive >bandwidth usage :> Thanks - glad you like it. If you hit any problems (and there ARE bugs, so if things aren't working, it's entirely possible you've hit one), please report it (at bugs.xiph.org). I'm busy these days, but I try to fix bugs in a somewhat timely manner. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From reubendb at innovativethought.com Fri Oct 4 15:06:54 2002 From: reubendb at innovativethought.com (Reuben D. Budiardja) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:06:54 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Re-encoding vorbis/ogg format on the fly Message-ID: <200210041106.54575.reubendb@innovativethought.com> Hi, Just one quick question. Can ices re-encode vorbis/ogg format on the fly? I know it can do that with mp3 format, but what about vorbis/ogg format? Thanks. Reuben D. Budiardja --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Fri Oct 4 23:19:51 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:19:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Re-encoding vorbis/ogg format on the fly In-Reply-To: <200210041106.54575.reubendb@innovativethought.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > Just one quick question. Can ices re-encode vorbis/ogg format on the fly? I > know it can do that with mp3 format, but what about vorbis/ogg format? I'm assuming you're asking about re-encoding ogg vorbis to lower bitrate ogg vorbis with ices 2.0. Let me know if you're not. Yes, it can. You have to examine both example XML files to get a proper sense of how to do this, and a few of the comments are now out of date. But here's a working example: bumpy.braille.uwo.ca 9000 NotTelling /egoplay24.ogg -1 22050 1 1 44100 22050 Hope that helps. Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Sat Oct 5 02:29:05 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:29:05 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021004212812.02f34da8@www.oddsock.org> weird..I posted this a few days ago, but it never showed up... anyway, here it is (again) :) --------------------------------------------------- while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... you can see this very clearly by using wget on a icecast2 vorbis stream, and when my source client sends new metadata, wget exits immediately..so this is telling me that icecast2 is definately closing the socket...most people probably don't notice this much because I believe both winamp and xmms will immediately try reconnect at least once, which succeeds (and has the also unlikely effect of rebuffering many times)... anyway, I would love to provide a patch for this for icecast2, as I am currently swamped with work, but I thought I would at least mention it....

oddsock

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From david at oldcolo.com Sat Oct 5 06:39:06 2002 From: david at oldcolo.com (David Hughes) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 01:39:06 -0500 Subject: [icecast] wow In-Reply-To: <1033693096.9101.17.camel@eris> Message-ID: Sorry to ask, but where can I find icecast2 and vorbis?

www.icecast.org only talks about icecast, not icecast2. Where an one find the apps/tools for the latest-greatest? Tx in advance. David david at oldcolo.com

-----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of steve j. kondik Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:58 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [icecast] wow massive props to the vorbis and icecast2 people.. this is truely impressive stuff guys. we're going live with pure icecast2/vorbis monday. its scary that 56K vorbis sounds almost as good as 128K mp3. this is a lifesaver as our isp is about to pull the plug for excessive bandwidth usage :> -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Sat Oct 5 06:55:30 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 08:55:30 +0200 Subject: [icecast] wow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D9E8CE2.15D28449@gmx.net> David Hughes wrote: > Sorry to ask, but where can I find icecast2 and vorbis? Vorbis releases are to be found on www.vorbis.com - to get Icecast2, check out the module "icecast" from cvs.xiph.org. www.xiph.org/cvs.html has the necessary instructions. Latest/Greatest versions of all Xiph stuff can be found there, too.

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From david at oldcolo.com Sat Oct 5 07:01:23 2002 From: david at oldcolo.com (David Hughes) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:01:23 -0500 Subject: [icecast] wow In-Reply-To: <3D9E8CE2.15D28449@gmx.net> Message-ID: Moritz, Thank you for compressing this into real simple language. Your name is famous here...saying that after being herer a short time here so it will not be news to others. I appreciate this info very much.

David david at oldcolo.com 972-599-7753

-----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of Moritz Grimm Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:56 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] wow David Hughes wrote: > Sorry to ask, but where can I find icecast2 and vorbis? Vorbis releases are to be found on www.vorbis.com - to get Icecast2, check out the module "icecast" from cvs.xiph.org. www.xiph.org/cvs.html has the necessary instructions. Latest/Greatest versions of all Xiph stuff can be found there, too.

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From shade at chemlab.org Sun Oct 6 04:40:17 2002 From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik) Date: 06 Oct 2002 00:40:17 -0400 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021004212812.02f34da8@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: <1033879218.15115.1.camel@galatea> ugh. this is a showstopper.. is there any fix yet? i'm having the same issue. if i HUP ices, it doesn't cause my client to reconnect (the song changes and the metadata updates) but when it normally switches tracks, the stream ends. i also see "invalid password" messages in my error log..

On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 22:29, oddsock wrote: > weird..I posted this a few days ago, but it never showed up... > > anyway, here it is (again) :) > --------------------------------------------------- > > while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that > apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), > icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that > on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets > are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... > > you can see this very clearly by using wget on a icecast2 vorbis stream, > and when my source client sends new metadata, wget exits immediately..so > this is telling me that icecast2 is definately closing the socket...most > people probably don't notice this much because I believe both winamp and > xmms will immediately try reconnect at least once, which succeeds (and has > the also unlikely effect of rebuffering many times)... > > anyway, I would love to provide a patch for this for icecast2, as I am > currently swamped with work, but I thought I would at least mention it.... > > > oddsock > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Sun Oct 6 07:04:03 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 17:04:03 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <1033879218.15115.1.camel@galatea> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021006170403.41db1100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 12:40 AM 10/6/02 -0400, you wrote: >ugh. this is a showstopper.. is there any fix yet? i'm having the same >issue. if i HUP ices, it doesn't cause my client to reconnect (the song >changes and the metadata updates) but when it normally switches tracks, >the stream ends. i also see "invalid password" messages in my error >log.. The 'invalid password' log messages are ok, but I think I'll change the way ices connects - at the moment, it tries to connect first without the password, then, if it gets a "401 Unauthorized", re-tries with the password. I think when I have some time I'll make it just always send the password, since there's not really any reason not to. I don't know what's causing some (but not most, or even many) people to see spurious disconnects from the server - I certainly don't see it in any of my local test setups. Current cvs (as of a couple of days ago) should log (at debug level) some additional information about why sources are being disconnected, when they are. So people having problems should update and see if that helps. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Oct 6 07:00:18 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:00:18 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <1033879218.15115.1.camel@galatea> Message-ID: Hi: We've started getting invalid/missing password problems too. They started suddenly on about Tuesday or Wednesday. We have 3 streams being served from the one ices instance, and often only one will be able to connect. I tried doing an update and recompiling everything, but that seems to have made things worse, as the one that did manage to reconnect got dumped too, leaving it chugging away with the data not going anywhere. Before I updated, the ices log was talking about broken pipes. Now it's inability to connect doesn't seem to be noted anywhere. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Sun Oct 6 10:12:02 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:12:02 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021004212812.02f34da8@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021006201202.412aaa40@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 09:29 PM 10/4/02 -0500, you wrote: >weird..I posted this a few days ago, but it never showed up... It did, I just didn't get around to looking at it in depth... > >anyway, here it is (again) :) >--------------------------------------------------- > >while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that >apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), >icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that >on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets >are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... This is triggered in some rare circumstances, and was worsened by a recent incorrect bugfix (there was a bug, the fix was wrong and exacerbated the problem, making it more likely to be triggered). I didn't fix it sooner because the vast majority of my files (and other test streams) don't trigger the bug anyway. I think this is the problem you and others have been seeing, so do an update and see if it's improved. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From shade at chemlab.org Sun Oct 6 10:56:35 2002 From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik) Date: 06 Oct 2002 06:56:35 -0400 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021006201202.412aaa40@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <1033901795.15114.5.camel@galatea> i can confirm that this fixes the bug.

On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 06:12, Michael Smith wrote: > At 09:29 PM 10/4/02 -0500, you wrote: > >weird..I posted this a few days ago, but it never showed up... > > It did, I just didn't get around to looking at it in depth... > > > > >anyway, here it is (again) :) > >--------------------------------------------------- > > > >while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that > >apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), > >icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that > >on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets > >are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... > > This is triggered in some rare circumstances, and was worsened by a recent > incorrect bugfix (there was a bug, the fix was wrong and exacerbated the > problem, making it more likely to be triggered). > > I didn't fix it sooner because the vast majority of my files (and other > test streams) don't trigger the bug anyway. I think this is the problem > you and others have been seeing, so do an update and see if it's improved. > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From shade at chemlab.org Sun Oct 6 11:19:23 2002 From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik) Date: 06 Oct 2002 07:19:23 -0400 Subject: [icecast] another icecast2 question Message-ID: <1033903163.15115.8.camel@galatea> icecast 1.3 had the "nametemplate" option.. is there any way to duplicate this in icecast2? i like to see our custom station info (name/url) along side the artist/title info. -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Sun Oct 6 11:48:41 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 21:48:41 +1000 Subject: [icecast] another icecast2 question In-Reply-To: <1033903163.15115.8.camel@galatea> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021006214841.41d41100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 07:19 AM 10/6/02 -0400, you wrote: >icecast 1.3 had the "nametemplate" option.. is there any way to >duplicate this in icecast2? i like to see our custom station info >(name/url) along side the artist/title info. You'd have to tell me what this option did. I've never used 1.x, and so I don't know the options in any detail. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From shade at chemlab.org Sun Oct 6 12:06:26 2002 From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik) Date: 06 Oct 2002 08:06:26 -0400 Subject: [icecast] another icecast2 question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021006214841.41d41100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <1033905986.15115.11.camel@galatea> easy one.. nametemplate chemlab radio! - %s - http://chemlab.org o if the currently playing track was "underworld - cowgirl" you'd see: chemlab radio! - underworld - cowgirl - http://chemlab.org crolling across your player....

On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 07:48, Michael Smith wrote: > At 07:19 AM 10/6/02 -0400, you wrote: > >icecast 1.3 had the "nametemplate" option.. is there any way to > >duplicate this in icecast2? i like to see our custom station info > >(name/url) along side the artist/title info. > > You'd have to tell me what this option did. I've never used 1.x, > and so I don't know the options in any detail. > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 "i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Sun Oct 6 13:52:37 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:52:37 +1000 Subject: [icecast] another icecast2 question In-Reply-To: <1033905986.15115.11.camel@galatea> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021006235237.41207b60@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 08:06 AM 10/6/02 -0400, you wrote: >easy one.. > >nametemplate chemlab radio! - %s - http://chemlab.org > >so if the currently playing track was "underworld - cowgirl" you'd see: > >chemlab radio! - underworld - cowgirl - http://chemlab.org > >scrolling across your player....

Unlike with mp3 streaming (which has metadata hacked on externally to the actual mp3 bitstream), vorbis has a true metadata system incorporated. This means that the players don't actually distinguish between file and stream when they're displaying the 'title string'. The default is usually something like "Artist - Title", but even that varies, so there's no way to give a single string that will be displayed how you want it. That said, ices2 will eventually have a generic mechanism for metadata overrides, so that you can insert whatever data you want - actually getting players to display it how you want is still going to be at least somewhat problematic, but you can often get a reasonable version there. The code for this is about 2/3 written, but got put on hold because it's not critical and I haven't had much time lately. Won't be in icecast itself, though. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From yasusii at lowlife.jp Sun Oct 6 17:53:52 2002 From: yasusii at lowlife.jp (Yasushi Iwata) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 02:53:52 +0900 (JST) Subject: [icecast] sample rate/bitrate In-Reply-To: <200209261717.18200.shonf@speedfactory.net> Message-ID: <20021007.025352.74753704.yasusii@lowlife.jp> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:17:17 -0400 you wrote: > first, i can't seem to get the right bitrate/sample rate on playback. i've > ripped my music, encoded and played it in freeamp, and it's great. but when > streamed (to winamp on a win2k pc), it plays super-fast-forward. what'd i > do? Hi, I am also facing the same problem. I'm running linux kernel 2.4.18, compiled with gcc 2.96. Does anyone have any advice? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 01:58:36 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:58:36 -0600 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? Message-ID: <3DA13DA4@webmail.colostate.edu> Hi, I'm trying to get liveice to work on a YellowDog (powerpc) computer, and all I can get it to stream is an awful static noise. Listening carefully, I can barely hear the song in with the noise... Looking through the list archives, I see someone has posted a similar problem, and fixed it by undefining NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN in liveice.h So I did, liveice.h:/* #define NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN */ And after a recompile, I still get the same problem! Any other ideas? Thanks, -Jesse --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Mon Oct 7 02:08:26 2002 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:08:26 -0700 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <3DA13DA4@webmail.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <20021006190826.A38661@lns.com> On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 07:58:36PM -0600, jessew wrote: > I'm trying to get liveice to work on a YellowDog (powerpc) computer, and all I > can get it to stream is an awful static noise. Listening carefully, I can > barely hear the song in with the noise... > > Looking through the list archives, I see someone has posted a similar problem, > and fixed it by undefining NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN in liveice.h > > So I did, > liveice.h:/* #define NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN */ > > And after a recompile, I still get the same problem! Any other ideas? How are you encoding the stream? For my mixice program, I had to add a "-x" to LAME which means "force byte-swapping of input". Tim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 02:18:31 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:18:31 -0600 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise?> Message-ID: <3DA0F006@webmail.colostate.edu> Please excuse my ignorance, what is a mixice program? I am using LAME. So in lifeice.cfg: USE_LAME3 lame I did try forcing byte-swapping in LAME by setting ENCODER_ARGS in the liveice.cfg file, though I may have done it wrong liveice.cfg: USE_LAME3 lame ENCODER_ARGS -x -Jesse > >How are you encoding the stream? For my mixice program, I had to >add a "-x" to LAME which means "force byte-swapping of input". > >Tim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Mon Oct 7 02:21:31 2002 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:21:31 -0700 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <3DA0F006@webmail.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <20021006192131.A42463@lns.com> On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 08:18:31PM -0600, jessew wrote: > Please excuse my ignorance, what is a mixice program? It is a quick and dirty perl script for doing live streaming over icecast and shoutcast relays. You can see it at: http://www.lns.com/papers/mixice/ > I am using LAME. So in lifeice.cfg: > > USE_LAME3 lame > > I did try forcing byte-swapping in LAME by setting ENCODER_ARGS in the > liveice.cfg file, though I may have done it wrong > > liveice.cfg: > USE_LAME3 lame > ENCODER_ARGS -x Can't help you there. I don't use it. Tim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 02:29:56 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:29:56 -0600 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise?> Message-ID: <3DA0F9BF@webmail.colostate.edu> Ah... mixice has nothing to do with liveice, does it? The reason you have to put -x in the LAME arguments in mixice is because LAME is set up to be big-endian by default. The x86 architecture is little-endian, though. I'm using liveice to encode the stream... and being on a big-endian powerpc machine, I've tried all I can to disable that byte-swapping option in LAME, which *should* fix the problem, but doesn't....

>How are you encoding the stream? For my mixice program, I had to >add a "-x" to LAME which means "force byte-swapping of input". > >Tim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Mon Oct 7 02:39:55 2002 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 19:39:55 -0700 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <3DA0F9BF@webmail.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <20021006193955.A42882@lns.com> On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 08:29:56PM -0600, jessew wrote: > Ah... mixice has nothing to do with liveice, does it? Nope. More than a year (two?) ago liveice used file pipes to move data around and my OS (FreeBSD) wasn't happy with this. I wrote Mixice as I needed a solution for the radio stations I stream. Mixice is still being used at these stations as it is rock solid and very hackable (yeah perl!). > I'm using liveice to encode the stream... and being on a big-endian powerpc > machine, I've tried all I can to disable that byte-swapping option in LAME, > which *should* fix the problem, but doesn't.... Sigh... Tim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 02:44:07 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:44:07 -0600 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise?> Message-ID: <3DA10650@webmail.colostate.edu> Very cool! So... can I hack this to grab output from XMMS instead of /dev/dsp? >Nope. More than a year (two?) ago liveice used file pipes to move >data around and my OS (FreeBSD) wasn't happy with this. I wrote >Mixice as I needed a solution for the radio stations I stream. >Mixice is still being used at these stations as it is rock solid >and very hackable (yeah perl!). > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 04:28:59 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:28:59 -0600 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise?> Message-ID: <3DA14676@webmail.colostate.edu> well, I got it working with the liveice-xmms plugin... had to sift through the source and remove the -x argument passed to lame... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jessew at holly.colostate.edu Mon Oct 7 04:34:28 2002 From: jessew at holly.colostate.edu (jessew) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:34:28 -0600 Subject: [icecast] synchronization issues... Message-ID: <3DA14AAA@webmail.colostate.edu> Now that my encoder doesn't broadcast static anymore... I've run into another problem. Here's what I'm trying to do (tell me if I'm crazy, because there's probably a better way to do this...) My roommate have two separate computers (and two speaker systems) and would like to listen to the same stuff in the room. So, I figure, set up an icecast server, tune our media players to that, and then launch another instance of WinAmp or XMMS to send a stream on through. However, sometimes it can be a pain to sync the audio out of both our speakers. Significant improvements came from turning buffering and prebuffering as low as they can go on each of the clients. But it's still not perfect... And you can only go so low on the bitrate before it sounds yukky. Any ideas? Thanks, -Jesse --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Mon Oct 7 05:04:31 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:04:31 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] synchronization issues... In-Reply-To: <3DA14AAA@webmail.colostate.edu> Message-ID: Hi: Well, trying to syncro two systems like this is, at best, going to be hit and miss, as it's not designed for this sort of thing. Personally, a well placed series of audio cables would seem to be a simpler answer. One thing though. the lower your bitrate, the more out of sync you're likely to get, as you need less data for the same amount of time. So you might want to try higher bitrates rather than lower...But as I say, I think you're going to be battling with this one. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hkl at mnet-online.de Mon Oct 7 07:12:00 2002 From: hkl at mnet-online.de (Hagen Kliemann) Date: 07 Oct 2002 09:12:00 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast1: "Client din't data fast enough" Message-ID: <8YRrvENUufB@hkl.mnet-online.de> Hallo, 06.10.02 I'm using Icecast1 with darkice on the same mashine, starting darkice by cron sending 2 mp3-Streams to the Icecast server and dumping the two mp3 stream and an an other vorbis into files (may later I set up icecast2) in the static dir of the Icecast. Locally connecting to the streams works well even works file streaming of the icecast static dir too. But if sombody is trying to connect to the stream from outside it may sometimes work but often the conection after about a minute. In my Server Logfile I see then entries like: "Client kicked becouse of to many error: client did not receive data fast enough". Even if my Upstream-Bandwitd via Cable-Modem isn't soo big, but I think about 200 kbits/s should be enough for some (but at least one) Listener for a 32kbps-Stream. I did recompile Icecast with a doubled chunklen. Then I don't get this Error anymore but the client mostly gets out of synch after some reconnects. This problem dont't occour in icecast's static mp3-file streaming of the by darkice dumped files. Does anybody have ideas what my problem could be? Does icecast in live streaming need at least shortly a very much higher bandwith then the real stream band with? Does darkice occupy too much processor time? I think, my mashine should be fast enough. Or may there be some bad network configurations? Hagen --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Mon Oct 7 12:16:25 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:16:25 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Icecast1: "Client din't data fast enough" In-Reply-To: <8YRrvENUufB@hkl.mnet-online.de> Message-ID: Hi: Not sure if it's a factor, but darkice uses posix realtime scheduling and if you've got multiple encodes going on, which it sounds like you do, your machine might be straining to keep up. also, what speed connection does the client have? You can't listen to a 32kbps stream on a 33.6kbps modem, for example. Once you account for the overhead, it's too much data for the bandwidth. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From knoll at netcoach.net Mon Oct 7 14:23:48 2002 From: knoll at netcoach.net (Daniel Knoll) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:23:48 +0200 Subject: AW: [icecast] Icecast1: "Client din't data fast enough" Message-ID: Hello Geoff, Hello Hagen, I have also this problem, I use shoutcast with shout. on a Sun SPARCServer 5 with 170 Mhz, and I don't know what I can do. Making higher buffering at the server-side ?!? but where ? Using a better Maschine (Sun Ultra60 with 2x450 UltraSPARCII Processor) its the same problem: the stream is broken with "Client din't data fast enough" in Logfile. I hear the stream in the Company LAN with 100Mbit/s, that can't be the problem. Is there such a compiling option ??? for helping this problem many many Thanx Daniel

Hi: Not sure if it's a factor, but darkice uses posix realtime scheduling and if you've got multiple encodes going on, which it sounds like you do, your machine might be straining to keep up. also, what speed connection does the client have? You can't listen to a 32kbps stream on a 33.6kbps modem, for example. Once you account for the overhead, it's too much data for the bandwidth. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Mon Oct 7 14:34:38 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 09:34:38 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <1033901795.15114.5.camel@galatea> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021007093118.02f752d0@www.oddsock.org> indeed it does..nice work Mike :) oh, and am I not supposed to see my responses to the list ? I get all responses to my post, just not my original post, which is kind of disconcerting if I don't get any responses to a post...anyway, at least this bug is fixed... now if we could only get the server to send stream data out as fast as it can when a client first connects to eliminate the long buffer times when first attaching to a stream (which for low bitrates can be very long).. ;) oddsock At 06:56 AM 10/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: >i can confirm that this fixes the bug. > > >On Sun, 2002-10-06 at 06:12, Michael Smith wrote: > > At 09:29 PM 10/4/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >weird..I posted this a few days ago, but it never showed up... > > > > It did, I just didn't get around to looking at it in depth... > > > > > > > >anyway, here it is (again) :) > > >--------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >while we are talking about disconnects, I'll mention the fact that > > >apparently when metadata song changes are done by a source (mine namely), > > >icecast2 seems to want to disconnect each listener. I have confirmed that > > >on metadata song changes, on the source client, no closing of the sockets > > >are done, only logical vorbis bitstream closings.... > > > > This is triggered in some rare circumstances, and was worsened by a recent > > incorrect bugfix (there was a bug, the fix was wrong and exacerbated the > > problem, making it more likely to be triggered). > > > > I didn't fix it sooner because the vast majority of my files (and other > > test streams) don't trigger the bug anyway. I think this is the problem > > you and others have been seeing, so do an update and see if it's improved. > > > > Mike > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >-- >http://chemlab.org - email shade-pgpkey at chemlab.org for pgp public key > chemlab radio! - drop out @ http://mp3.chemlab.org:8000 24-7-365 > >"i could build anything if i could just find my tools.." >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Mon Oct 7 15:02:38 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:02:38 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 disconnects.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021007093118.02f752d0@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021008010238.410c6a00@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 09:34 AM 10/7/02 -0500, you wrote: >indeed it does..nice work Mike :) > >oh, and am I not supposed to see my responses to the list ? I get all >responses to my post, just not my original post, which is kind of >disconcerting if I don't get any responses to a post...anyway, at least >this bug is fixed... You should (other people, like me, get our own posts). Not sure what's wrong. > >now if we could only get the server to send stream data out as fast as it >can when a client first connects to eliminate the long buffer times when >first attaching to a stream (which for low bitrates can be very long).. ;) > Technically, that's easy. There are as many reasons to NOT do that as there are reasons TO do it, though. Perhaps I'll make it optional when I next have time to do new-feature-type-work (late nov. or december). Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alexey.skoblikov at compusoft.no Mon Oct 7 17:43:57 2002 From: alexey.skoblikov at compusoft.no (Alexey Skoblikov) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:43:57 +0400 Subject: [icecast] stream name Message-ID: <110298287855.20021007214357@compusoft.no> Hi I use - winamp shoutcast source - freebsd icecast server - winamp listener I set the stream name in the DSP But this name is visible only if I listen the stream on winamp 2.x, winamp 3.x doesn't understand it and shown just the icy_0. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From djsnm at djsnm.com Mon Oct 7 19:24:16 2002 From: djsnm at djsnm.com (Scott Manley) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:24:16 -0700 Subject: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise? In-Reply-To: <3DA14676@webmail.colostate.edu> Message-ID: <00ac01c26e37$20e88080$677ba8c0@minisnm> Ahh yes - this is a problem where the behaviour of lame was changed since I wrote this app - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jessew" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: RE: [icecast] liveice sending horrible static noise?

> well, I got it working with the liveice-xmms plugin... had to sift through the > source and remove the -x argument passed to lame... > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brunobat at vizzavi.pt Tue Oct 8 00:13:34 2002 From: brunobat at vizzavi.pt (Bruno Batista) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 01:13:34 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast1: "Client din't data fast enough" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004901c26e5f$8bf47f00$377a1ed5@eu> Hi I have the same problem streaming at 24 kbps in a PIII 866 MHz, 256MB ram, and Red Hat 7.3. We are connected to the University of Coimbra, Portugal (LAN 100Mbps). At rush time in the local area (in day time we have limitations in the bandwith) i think it is normal, but it can't be normal at 1a.m. with only 3 clients connected outside the university. Any other ideas? thanks and bye! Bruno Baptista

_______________________________________________________ Vizzavi Mail powered by Vodafone - http://www.vizzavi.pt Virus protected by TrendMicro - http://www.antivirus.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Tue Oct 8 18:05:01 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:05:01 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? Message-ID: <20021008120501.58c9a59a.richard@freespeech.org> I have a working installation of icecast2 and ices2 (from CVS) I am in searching of a streamer / scheduler program. We are starting an online streaming (ogg) radio station and I want to have the ability to play a songs at at certain pre defined times of the day. I can add all the songs info to a MySql database and then write some php to check the time ever so often and reload the play list with the new song / program (e.g. play news at the top of the hour). Would be nice if it could calculate the time the next song can run. I would like a nice programming grid and just be able to click on a day and a time and enter the song. I am going to use simple old play lists for now with ices2 but is there such a beast as described above. How do you load one song at a time with ices, you have to shut it down then re-write the playlist and start it up again right? Seems like there are 100s of dynamic playlist generators (php and mysql / web enabled) but nothing that can play a song at a certain time. Regards Richard --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Tue Oct 8 18:35:12 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:35:12 -0600 Subject: [icecast] icecast2 documentation - where is it ? Message-ID: <20021008123512.45781110.richard@freespeech.org> Have a successful install of icecast2 and ices2 from CVS. Runs fine but some documentation would be lovely ;) Is this doc good for icecast2 http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/personal/angel/web/ This documentation describes some tags in the config file that I don't see in my newer version of icecast.

TIA Richard --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pomar at ieee.org Tue Oct 8 20:46:42 2002 From: pomar at ieee.org (Christian Pomar) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:46:42 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Requesting some support... Message-ID: Hi all, Sorry if I ask something too basic, but I've just started with icecast and I don't know if I have done something wrong. I have downloaded and compiled icecast. I have modified the configuration file and added a test mp3 file in /usr/local/icecast/static/ann.mp3. Finally, I have started it obtaining the following: [chris at linux2 bin]$ ./icecast Icecast Version 1.3.12 Initializing... Icecast comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of Icecast under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. Starting thread engine... [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Icecast Version 1.3.12 Starting.. [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Starting Admin Console Thread... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Starting main connection handler... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Listening on port 8000... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Using 'martescooh.org' as servername... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Server limits: 900 clients, 900 clients per source, 10 sources, 5 admins -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] WWW Admin interface accessible at http://martescooh.org:8000/admin -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Starting Calender Thread... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Starting UDP handler thread... -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 0] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 1 seconds] -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:20] Starting relay connector thread... When I point any browser or winamp to http://martescooh.org:8000 or http://martescooh.org:8000/ann.mp3 the cosole shows the following: -> -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:39] Kicking unknown 1 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:52] Kicking unknown 2 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> [08/Oct/2002:22:47:56] Kicking unknown 3 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> [08/Oct/2002:22:48:13] Kicking unknown 4 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> [08/Oct/2002:22:48:32] Kicking unknown 5 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> [08/Oct/2002:22:48:43] Kicking unknown 6 [win1.martescooh.org] [No encoder], connected for 0 seconds -> I'm sure I've forgot to read something, but I don't know what. I've looked around the internet and found nothing. In fact I have not found any basic document about streaming... Can anybody give me a hint about what I'm doing wrong? thanks a lot Christian Pomar --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Oct 8 23:00:39 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:00:39 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <20021008120501.58c9a59a.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: Hi: Regarding refreshing the playlist. IIRC, ices will notice that the playlist has changed if you change it while it's running, once the current file has finished. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Oct 8 23:09:42 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:09:42 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] icecast2 documentation - where is it ? In-Reply-To: <20021008123512.45781110.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: Hi: that documentation is for icecast 1.x. Icecast2 is a completely new beast, written from scratch. AFAIK, there is no documentation save for what comes in the icecast2 sources. I think all the available configuration options are ilustrated in the config file that ocmes with it. Icecast2 has still not been released, partly because there is no documentation. You know how it goes - write it first, document it later. I speculate that most people using icecast2 are on this list, so feel free to ask if you have any queries. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Oct 8 23:20:37 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:20:37 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Requesting some support... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Christian Pomar wrote: > I have downloaded and compiled icecast. I have modified the configuration > file and added a test mp3 file in /usr/local/icecast/static/ann.mp3. > When I point any browser or winamp to http://martescooh.org:8000 or > http://martescooh.org:8000/ann.mp3 the cosole shows the following: Acording to the icecast manual, you should be calling your file as follows: http://martescooh.org:8000/file/ann.mp3 It's awhile since I downloaded and fiddled with icecast 1.x, but somewhere there is a nice file called manual.html which is the icecast 1.x manual which has lots of good stuff in it. Well worth the read. Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Wed Oct 9 05:59:04 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:59:04 -0600 Subject: [icecast] icecast status page -status.xsl Message-ID: <20021008235904.79ac2421.richard@freespeech.org> So I point my browser to http://206.168.174.48:8000/status.xsl Looking at the xsl doc status.xsl I some some nice variables I can use. For some reason I don't seem to be able to pull out the comment tag from the ogg file. I used to easytag to add this so i know it exists. These appear to work - These don't do shite - but my id tag has em Album comment would be perhaps ??

Regards Richard ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Wed Oct 9 06:03:01 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:03:01 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021009000301.10b588dd.richard@freespeech.org> thanks, this works but its almost impossible to make all my programs to add up to an hour exactly so at some stage I would need to kill the a song half way through just before the news at the top of the hour. Any ideas on how to do this ??/ R

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:00:39+1000(EST) Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi: > > Regarding refreshing the playlist. IIRC, ices will notice that the > playlist has changed if you change it while it's running, once the > current file has finished. > > Geoff. > > > -- > Geoff Shang > ICQ number 43634701 > > Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! > http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Oct 9 06:08:50 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 16:08:50 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue Message-ID: Hi: Well, up until about a week ago, we had our stream up and running on 3 seperate mountpoints and it was rock solid. then we started hitting problems with disconnects and the like. I recompiled everything this morning and set it running again. But one mount has died already. We have 3 streams running. the first is the ogg files as they were encoded (egoplay.ogg). the second is a re-encode to 44.1khz stereo at quality 0 (egoplay64.ogg). and the third is a downmix and resample to 22.05khz mono at quality -1 (egoplay24.ogg). It's this latter one that's died. by using the "current song" information from the stats page, I was able to find the log entries around the time it died. Here's what the ices logfile shows: [2002-10-09 01:00:24] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently playing /var/music/Jerry_Garcia_&_David_Grisman/Shady_Grove/07-Jackaroo.ogg [2002-10-09 01:00:24] DBUG encode/encode_clear Clearing encoder engine [2002-10-09 01:00:24] DBUG reencode/reencode_page Reinitialising reencoder for new logical stream [2002-10-09 01:00:24] INFO encode/encode_initialise Encoder initialising with VBR: 1 channel(s), 22050 Hz, quality -1.000000 [2002-10-09 01:00:24] INFO audio/resample_initialise Initialised resampler for 1 channels, from 44100 Hz to 22050 Hz [2002-10-09 01:00:24] INFO audio/downmix_initialise Enabling stereo->mono downmixing [2002-10-09 01:00:24] DBUG encode/encode_clear Clearing encoder engine [2002-10-09 01:00:24] DBUG reencode/reencode_page Reinitialising reencoder for new logical stream [2002-10-09 01:00:24] INFO encode/encode_initialise Encoder initialising with VBR: 2 channel(s), 44100 Hz, quality 0.000000 Shortly after in the icecast2 error log, we see: [2002-10-09 01:01:50] WARN source/source_main Disconnecting source: socket timeout (10 s) expired [2002-10-09 01:01:50] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-09 01:01:50] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting There's also 1 entry in the access log: 129.100.249.144 - - [09/Oct/2002:01:01:50 -0400] "SOURCE /egoplay24.ogg HTTP/1.0" 200 149191191 "-" "IceS 2.0beta2" 51847 there is no evidence of this in the ices log except for the fact that after this point, the messages regarding the downmixing and resampling for the low bitrate stream stop appearing. wish I could give you more info. but I've got logging set as high as it will go and that's all I have. all 3 mounts are on the same server, so it's not a network thing or they'dve all have gone down. I'll report again if either of the other two mounts die. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alexey.skoblikov at compusoft.no Wed Oct 9 08:00:05 2002 From: alexey.skoblikov at compusoft.no (Alexey Skoblikov) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:00:05 +0400 Subject: [icecast] remote admin Message-ID: <17186848301.20021009120005@compusoft.no> Hello. I have problems with remote admin. I start the telnet on 8000 port, type ADMIN ****(admin_password) - these letters are not visible in the console though double Enter And I get ========================== HTTP/1.0 306 Grow up Server: icecast/1.3.12 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html 306 Request all messed up

306 Request all messed up

The request your application sent to the server was malformed. Please try again.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Wed Oct 9 09:11:18 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:11:18 +1000 Subject: [icecast] icecast status page -status.xsl In-Reply-To: <20021008235904.79ac2421.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021009191118.410c04b0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 11:59 PM 10/8/02 -0600, you wrote: >So I point my browser to > >http://206.168.174.48:8000/status.xsl > >Looking at the xsl doc status.xsl I some some nice variables I can >use. For some reason I don't seem to be able to pull out the comment >tag from the ogg file. I used to easytag to add this so i know it >exists. > >These appear to work > - > > >These don't do shite - but my id tag has em >Album > > >comment would be > >perhaps ?? > You can't (using the XSL stuff as-is) pull out arbitrary vorbis tag metadata. Title and artist are pulled out as special cases. You can add others you want in your local copy in src/format_vorbis.c, you should be able to do this pretty much by copying-and-pasting. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Wed Oct 9 09:12:04 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:12:04 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <20021009000301.10b588dd.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021009191204.410c4100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 12:03 AM 10/9/02 -0600, you wrote: >thanks, this works but its almost impossible to make all my programs >to add up to an hour exactly so at some stage I would need to kill >the a song half way through just before the news at the top of the >hour. Any ideas on how to do this ??/ Send SIGHUP to ices. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Wed Oct 9 09:14:43 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:14:43 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021009191443.410c8980@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 04:08 PM 10/9/02 +1000, you wrote: >Hi: > >Well, up until about a week ago, we had our stream up and running on 3 >seperate mountpoints and it was rock solid. then we started hitting >problems with disconnects and the like. I recompiled everything this >morning and set it running again. But one mount has died already. > >We have 3 streams running. the first is the ogg files as they were encoded >(egoplay.ogg). the second is a re-encode to 44.1khz stereo at quality 0 >(egoplay64.ogg). and the third is a downmix and resample to 22.05khz mono >at quality -1 (egoplay24.ogg). It's this latter one that's died. > >by using the "current song" information from the stats page, I was able to >find the log entries around the time it died. Here's what the ices logfile >shows: Assuming you're using icecast2 from cvs no more than 2 days old, this is probably a bug in ices2. Please report it (bugs.xiph.org), I'll look into it after my exams are over. If you're NOT using very-recent-cvs icecast2, update, a bug that could cause source disconnects was fixed recently Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Oct 9 09:11:22 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:11:22 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021009191443.410c8980@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: Hi: Both are current CVS as of about 20 hours ago. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From knoll at netcoach.net Wed Oct 9 10:18:44 2002 From: knoll at netcoach.net (Daniel Knoll) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:18:44 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Hey Slava, please Stop your Mailer!!!!!! Message-ID: -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Slava Shklyar [mailto:sava at techphone.co.il] Gesendet: Montag, 9. September 2002 11:45 An: icecast at xiph.org Betreff: Re: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue

--------------------------------------- Regards, Slava Shklyar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:14 Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue

> At 04:08 PM 10/9/02 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi: > > > >Well, up until about a week ago, we had our stream up and running on 3 > >seperate mountpoints and it was rock solid. then we started hitting > >problems with disconnects and the like. I recompiled everything this > >morning and set it running again. But one mount has died already. > > > >We have 3 streams running. the first is the ogg files as they were encoded > >(egoplay.ogg). the second is a re-encode to 44.1khz stereo at quality 0 > >(egoplay64.ogg). and the third is a downmix and resample to 22.05khz mono > >at quality -1 (egoplay24.ogg). It's this latter one that's died. > > > >by using the "current song" information from the stats page, I was able to > >find the log entries around the time it died. Here's what the ices logfile > >shows: > > Assuming you're using icecast2 from cvs no more than 2 days old, this > is probably a bug in ices2. Please report it (bugs.xiph.org), I'll look > into it after my exams are over. If you're NOT using very-recent-cvs > icecast2, update, a bug that could cause source disconnects was fixed > recently > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Oct 9 14:38:36 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:38:36 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 issues continue In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021009191443.410c8980@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: Hi: For the record, the other two streams also died this morning, at what looks to have been about the same time. The ices log shows nothing unusual, there's just no more songs. I understand though that this time, ices died. The error log would support this. [2002-10-09 08:51:41] DBUG source/source_main Disconnecting source due to socket read error: Broken pipe [2002-10-09 08:51:41] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-09 08:51:41] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting [2002-10-09 08:51:41] DBUG source/source_main Disconnecting source due to socket read error: Broken pipe [2002-10-09 08:51:41] INFO source/source_main Removing source following disconnection [2002-10-09 08:51:41] DBUG source/source_main Source exiting And here's the access log entries, for completeness: 129.100.249.144 - - [09/Oct/2002:08:51:41 -0400] "SOURCE /egoplay.ogg HTTP/1.0" 200 1420714111 "-" "IceS 2.0beta2" 80038 129.100.249.144 - - [09/Oct/2002:08:51:41 -0400] "SOURCE /egoplay64.ogg HTTP/1.0" 200 563726823 "-" "IceS 2.0beta2" 80038 Syslog tells us why it crashed: Oct 9 08:51:43 boss kernel: <3>Out of Memory: Killed process 13205 (ices). Oct 9 08:51:43 boss kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 13207 (ices). Oct 9 08:51:43 boss kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 13208 (ices). Oct 9 08:51:43 boss kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 13209 (ices). Oct 9 08:51:43 boss kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 13210 (ices). I do notice a couple of things. First, the egoplay24 stream died while cron.daily was running. Maybe that contributed to the problem. The other thing I've noticed is that when the first stream died, there are no attempts to reconnect it listed in either the ices or icecast logs. So perhaps part of ices is still under the impression that it's still connected, which might explain the memory issues nearly 8 hours later. I'll stick this lot into bugzilla (A) when I get time and (B) if I get to grips with using the thing. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mario at musicologia.uchile.cl Wed Oct 9 14:47:02 2002 From: mario at musicologia.uchile.cl (Mario Encalada) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:47:02 -0400 (CLT) Subject: [icecast] new in the LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Where can i fin the sources of icecast2????? RPMs??? Mario Encalada

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pwhite at mailhaven.com Wed Oct 9 16:05:22 2002 From: pwhite at mailhaven.com (Philip White) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:05:22 -0500 Subject: [icecast] new in the LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021009160521.GA9710@mailhaven.com> Only CVS for now. http://xiph.org/cvs.html On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:47:02AM -0400, Mario Encalada wrote: > Where can i fin the sources of icecast2????? > RPMs??? > > Mario Encalada > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- GPG key: 0xC2A34385 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pomar at ieee.org Wed Oct 9 19:38:45 2002 From: pomar at ieee.org (Christian Pomar) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:38:45 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Requesting some support... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Thanks a lot for the info. I looked in the manual one thousand times before sending my question and I skipped the "file/" piece of the path once and another... Christian -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]En nombre de Geoff Shang Enviado el: miercoles, 09 de octubre de 2002 1:21 Para: icecast at xiph.org Asunto: Re: [icecast] Requesting some support...

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Christian Pomar wrote: > I have downloaded and compiled icecast. I have modified the configuration > file and added a test mp3 file in /usr/local/icecast/static/ann.mp3. > When I point any browser or winamp to http://martescooh.org:8000 or > http://martescooh.org:8000/ann.mp3 the cosole shows the following: Acording to the icecast manual, you should be calling your file as follows: http://martescooh.org:8000/file/ann.mp3 It's awhile since I downloaded and fiddled with icecast 1.x, but somewhere there is a nice file called manual.html which is the icecast 1.x manual which has lots of good stuff in it. Well worth the read. Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From drubior at tinet.org Fri Oct 11 12:18:05 2002 From: drubior at tinet.org (Daniel Rubio) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:18:05 +0200 Subject: [icecast] DarkIce make problems Message-ID: <3DA6C17D.3040108@tinet.org> Hi everybody I'm trying to encode the soundcard signal to serve it with IceCast, but I'm having problems with making darkice-0.11. Anybody could help? I'm compiling in a Solaris 6 OS with gcc 2.8.1, and I've installed lame and Vorbis libraries. This is my config phrase: ./configure --prefix=/aplicacions/icecast-1.3.12/darkice --with-lame --with-vorbis --with-lame-prefix=/usr/local --with-vorbis-prefix=/usr/local And here is the problem: bash-2.03# make make all-recursive Making all in src source='BufferedSink.cpp' object='BufferedSink.o' libtool=no \ depfile='.deps/BufferedSink.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/BufferedSink.TPo' \ depmode=gcc /bin/bash ../depcomp \ gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pedantic -Wall -c -o BufferedSink.o `test -f 'BufferedSink.cpp' || echo './'`BufferedSink.cpp In file included from BufferedSink.cpp:59: Exception.h:39: iostream: No such file or directory In file included from BufferedSink.h:40, from BufferedSink.cpp:60: Reporter.h:56: iostream: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `BufferedSink.o' Current working directory /export/home/drubior/darkice-0.11/src *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' Current working directory /export/home/drubior/darkice-0.11 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Thanks in advance, and sorry by my english :) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Fri Oct 11 12:18:56 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:18:56 +0200 Subject: [icecast] DarkIce make problems In-Reply-To: <3DA6C17D.3040108@tinet.org> Message-ID: <3DA6C1B0.1000701@tyrell.hu> Daniel Rubio wrote: > Hi everybody > > I'm trying to encode the soundcard signal to serve it with IceCast, but > I'm having problems with making darkice-0.11. Anybody could help? > > I'm compiling in a Solaris 6 OS with gcc 2.8.1, and I've installed lame > and Vorbis libraries. ... > Reporter.h:56: iostream: No such file or directory please use a more recent gcc (e.g. 3.x), or somehow supply the STL include files.

Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Fri Oct 11 23:56:30 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:56:30 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <3DA6C17D.3040108@tinet.org> Message-ID: <20021011175630.3fba30c4.richard@freespeech.org> Help! we're trying to set up an online radio station for Columbus day here in Denver and can't seem to find a good working streamer for a windows machine! Icecast2 works fine when I use the ices2 streamer on the same linux box. What do you recommend - winamp plugin seems like the easiest but seem like we get an error (using Samcast) ERR_NOLOGIN SAMcast failed to log into the streaming server Possible causes: - Bad password. Double check your password - Wrong server type. Make sure you chose the correct server type. [ICEcast or SHOUTcast] (Live365 users should specify SHOUTcast) - Slow connection. On rare occasions the login will timeout. Just retry when this happens

Seems like this (samcast) is a big bloated programs as well so please point us to a simple windows streaming solution. Perhaps Samcast don't like the new icecast2 ??? Cheers Richard

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vanguardist at cox.net Sat Oct 12 00:03:35 2002 From: vanguardist at cox.net (Manuel Lora) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:03:35 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20021011175630.3fba30c4.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <200210111903.35226.vanguardist@cox.net> You can use oddcast DSP (www.oddsock.org) ml On Friday 11 October 2002 06:56 pm, Richard wrote: > Help! > we're trying to set up an online radio station for Columbus day here > in Denver and can't seem to find a good working streamer for a windows > machine! Icecast2 works fine when I use the ices2 streamer on the same > linux box. What do you recommend - winamp plugin seems like the > easiest but seem like we get an error (using Samcast) > > ERR_NOLOGIN > SAMcast failed to log into the streaming server > Possible causes: > - Bad password. Double check your password > - Wrong server type. Make sure you chose the correct server type. > [ICEcast > or SHOUTcast] > (Live365 users should specify SHOUTcast) > - Slow connection. On rare occasions the login will timeout. > Just > retry when this happens > > > Seems like this (samcast) is a big bloated programs as well so please > point us to a simple windows streaming solution. Perhaps Samcast don't > like the new icecast2 ??? > > Cheers > Richard > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Sat Oct 12 00:57:43 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:57:43 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <200210111903.35226.vanguardist@cox.net> Message-ID: <20021011185743.6b2ad071.richard@freespeech.org> Thanks but I can't figure out how to use it! I presume I put it in the winamp plugins directory then what? Winamp didn't even have a plugin directory! Hmm now I know why I use linux! R

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:03:35 -0500 Manuel Lora wrote: > > You can use oddcast DSP (www.oddsock.org) > > ml > > On Friday 11 October 2002 06:56 pm, Richard wrote: > > Help! > > we're trying to set up an online radio station for Columbus day > > here > > in Denver and can't seem to find a good working streamer for a > > windows machine! Icecast2 works fine when I use the ices2 streamer > > on the same linux box. What do you recommend - winamp plugin seems > > like the easiest but seem like we get an error (using Samcast) > > > > ERR_NOLOGIN > > SAMcast failed to log into the streaming server > > Possible causes: > > - Bad password. Double check your password > > - Wrong server type. Make sure you chose the correct server type. > > [ICEcast > > or SHOUTcast] > > (Live365 users should specify SHOUTcast) > > - Slow connection. On rare occasions the login will > > timeout. Just > > retry when this happens > > > > > > Seems like this (samcast) is a big bloated programs as well so > > please point us to a simple windows streaming solution. Perhaps > > Samcast don't like the new icecast2 ??? > > > > Cheers > > Richard > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' > > in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to > > the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards Richard ------------------------------------------ .' `. |a_a| Richard at Jacana.Net \ V / Phone: 303.931.1414 /( )\ Fax: 309.422.5703 |\`> < /\ \_|=='|_/ ------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vanguardist at cox.net Sat Oct 12 01:01:24 2002 From: vanguardist at cox.net (Manuel Lora) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:01:24 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20021011185743.6b2ad071.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <200210112001.24870.vanguardist@cox.net> heh If you want to capture audio live, you can use the advrec option on the plugin. If it's from a playlist, it will just stream whatever winamp plays. Enable the plugin in winamp and configure it. i don't use windows often either, so I can't tell you step by step :) I'm sure you can figure it out. rock ml

On Friday 11 October 2002 07:57 pm, Richard wrote: > Thanks but I can't figure out how to use it! I presume I put it in the > winamp plugins directory then what? Winamp didn't even have a plugin > directory! Hmm now I know why I use linux! > > R > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:03:35 -0500 > > Manuel Lora wrote: > > You can use oddcast DSP (www.oddsock.org) > > > > ml > > > > On Friday 11 October 2002 06:56 pm, Richard wrote: > > > Help! > > > we're trying to set up an online radio station for Columbus day > > > here > > > in Denver and can't seem to find a good working streamer for a > > > windows machine! Icecast2 works fine when I use the ices2 streamer > > > on the same linux box. What do you recommend - winamp plugin seems > > > like the easiest but seem like we get an error (using Samcast) > > > > > > ERR_NOLOGIN > > > SAMcast failed to log into the streaming server > > > Possible causes: > > > - Bad password. Double check your password > > > - Wrong server type. Make sure you chose the correct server type. > > > [ICEcast > > > or SHOUTcast] > > > (Live365 users should specify SHOUTcast) > > > - Slow connection. On rare occasions the login will > > > timeout. Just > > > retry when this happens > > > > > > > > > Seems like this (samcast) is a big bloated programs as well so > > > please point us to a simple windows streaming solution. Perhaps > > > Samcast don't like the new icecast2 ??? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' > > > in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to > > > the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > -- > > > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > > list will be ignored/filtered. > > Regards > Richard > ------------------------------------------ > .' `. > > |a_a| Richard at Jacana.Net > > \ V / Phone: 303.931.1414 > /( )\ Fax: 309.422.5703 > > |\`> < /\ > > \_|=='|_/ > ------------------------------------------ > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Sat Oct 12 01:16:06 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 03:16:06 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20021011185743.6b2ad071.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3DA777D6.83228CEB@gmx.net> Richard wrote: > Thanks but I can't figure out how to use it! I presume I put it in the > winamp plugins directory then what? Winamp didn't even have a plugin > directory! Hmm now I know why I use linux! Oddcast DSP comes with an installer. After installing it, you'll find it in Options|Preferences|DSP/Effect. Select it and the Oddcast DSP window will pop up. This works only with a fairly current version of Winamp 2, btw. Winamp 3 uses a different plugin API and is not very useful in general (yet). You can also familiarize yourself with Oddcast DSP under Linux - this plugin is also available for XMMS, too. Btw, if you're using a stream source that used to be able to connect to Icecast2 but doesn't do that anymore, that particular source uses the deprecated ICE login. Either upgrade your Icecast2 (in case your version is older than ~Oct. 11th), which now allows http basic auth and icelogin coexist again (however, icelogin is still deprecated), or add 1 to your icecast.xml

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Sat Oct 12 15:56:38 2002 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smoerk) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:56:38 +0300 Subject: [icecast] Windows Streamer for Icecast2 ??? In-Reply-To: <20021011175630.3fba30c4.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3DA84636.8070403@gmx.de> Richard wrote: > Help! > we're trying to set up an online radio station for Columbus day here > in Denver and can't seem to find a good working streamer for a windows > machine! Icecast2 works fine when I use the ices2 streamer on the same > linux box. What do you recommend - winamp plugin seems like the > easiest but seem like we get an error (using Samcast) There are several solutions. http://radiostudio.org/ostream -> a little bit outdated, but works (0.7.3 works best) radiocast, it should be on http://www.akustische-kunst.org but I cannot find it. Write an email to the author olaf matthes and ask. Download PD (pure date) and the oggcast~ externals from http://www.akustische-kunst.org treamtranscoder from oddsock.org

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wouter.cuypers at pandora.be Sun Oct 13 21:41:21 2002 From: wouter.cuypers at pandora.be (Wouter Cuypers) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:41:21 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? Message-ID: <000401c27301$45a02580$0300000a@Kaneda> Hi, I would like to send 3 streams to my server, three times exactly the same audio but with different quality setting to get a low, medium and high quality stream. I've got icecast2 setup on a debian server and I'm streaming ogg with oddcast from winamp, everything's working just fine. Is there another win32 package to get this done ? We are going to do live audio in the end so we could use a dedicated linux box as well. Wouter, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Mon Oct 14 01:00:11 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:00:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? In-Reply-To: <000401c27301$45a02580$0300000a@Kaneda> Message-ID: Hi: It can definitely be done with ices2 under linux. Let me know if you'd like to see a config. We have an automated stream running at 3 seperate bitrates, but the same could just as easily be done with the live input section. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wouter.cuypers at pandora.be Mon Oct 14 01:06:11 2002 From: wouter.cuypers at pandora.be (Wouter Cuypers) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:06:11 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2731d$e307cbe0$0300000a@Kaneda> Hello, Yes, I would very much like to see your config. How is the ACL actually done in icecast2 or does it rely entirly on tcp wrappers ? Because bandwidth is expensive in Europe I want some kind of 'frequent listeners' system that offers a better quality stream to the more loyal listeners. Thanks already, Wouter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] > On Behalf Of Geoff Shang > Sent: maandag 14 oktober 2002 3:00 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality > settings ? > > > Hi: > > It can definitely be done with ices2 under linux. Let me > know if you'd like to see a config. We have an automated > stream running at 3 seperate bitrates, but the same could > just as easily be done with the live input section. > > Geoff. > > > -- > Geoff Shang > ICQ number 43634701 > > Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! > http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html > > Please avoid sending > me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word > 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe > messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Mon Oct 14 01:33:43 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:33:43 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021009191204.410c4100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <20021013193343.42730ada.richard@freespeech.org> Excuse my ignorance but how do I do that from the command shell? R

On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:12:04 +1000 Michael Smith wrote: > At 12:03 AM 10/9/02 -0600, you wrote: > >thanks, this works but its almost impossible to make all my > >programs to add up to an hour exactly so at some stage I would need > >to kill the a song half way through just before the news at the top > >of the hour. Any ideas on how to do this ??/ > > Send SIGHUP to ices. > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards Richard ============================= Richard at FreeSpeech.org Tel 303 442 8060 ============================= --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Mon Oct 14 01:41:18 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:41:18 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021009191204.410c4100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <20021013194118.0cbafc1a.richard@freespeech.org> Won't this also disconnect the listerners from the stream? R On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:12:04 +1000 Michael Smith wrote: > At 12:03 AM 10/9/02 -0600, you wrote: > >thanks, this works but its almost impossible to make all my > >programs to add up to an hour exactly so at some stage I would need > >to kill the a song half way through just before the news at the top > >of the hour. Any ideas on how to do this ??/ > > Send SIGHUP to ices. > > Mike > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards Richard ------------------------------------------ .' `. |a_a| Richard at Jacana.Net \ V / Phone: 303.931.1414 /( )\ Fax: 309.422.5703 |\`> < /\ \_|=='|_/ ------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Mon Oct 14 06:58:02 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:58:02 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? In-Reply-To: <000401c27301$45a02580$0300000a@Kaneda> Message-ID: <3DAA6AFA.9080506@tyrell.hu> Wouter Cuypers wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to send 3 streams to my server, three times exactly the > same audio but with different quality setting to get a low, medium and > high quality stream. > I've got icecast2 setup on a debian server and I'm streaming ogg with > oddcast from winamp, everything's working just fine. > Is there another win32 package to get this done ? We are going to do > live audio in the end so we could use a dedicated linux box as well. darkice is able to do this job when using linux and live audio input.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Mon Oct 14 09:09:32 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:09:32 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <20021013194118.0cbafc1a.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021014190932.410efa70@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 07:41 PM 10/13/02 -0600, you wrote: >Won't this also disconnect the listerners from the stream? > No Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Mon Oct 14 09:10:01 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:10:01 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <20021013193343.42730ada.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021014191001.410f3580@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 07:33 PM 10/13/02 -0600, you wrote: >Excuse my ignorance but how do I do that from the command shell? kill -HUP pid Replace 'pid' with the pid (process id) of the ices process. ps can tell you that. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Mon Oct 14 09:14:33 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:14:33 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <20021013193343.42730ada.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3DAA8AF9.3DEEF394@gmx.net> Richard wrote: > > Send SIGHUP to ices. > Excuse my ignorance but how do I do that from the command shell? kill -HUP or, if you run only one instance of ices (or want to HUP all instances): killall -HUP ices The latter works only under GNU/Linux, afaik. It doesn't under *BSD.

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Mon Oct 14 13:38:21 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:38:21 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? In-Reply-To: <3DAA6AFA.9080506@tyrell.hu> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021014083227.03046658@www.oddsock.org> At 08:58 AM 10/14/2002 +0200, you wrote: >Wouter Cuypers wrote: >>Hi, >>I would like to send 3 streams to my server, three times exactly the >>same audio but with different quality setting to get a low, medium and >>high quality stream. >>I've got icecast2 setup on a debian server and I'm streaming ogg with >>oddcast from winamp, everything's working just fine. >>Is there another win32 package to get this done ? We are going to do >>live audio in the end so we could use a dedicated linux box as well. I've written a stream transcoder which you could also use, you can run it in GUI (win32/unix) or command-line mode and it's job is to do just what you want, transcode the stream from one bitrate to another. Essentially, you'd send one stream (highest quality) to your server, and then at the server you would run 2 instances of the transcoder, it listens in just like a listener and transcodes the stream to any bitrate/samplerate you want (and format too - i.e. you can go from MP3 to Vorbis, etc.) A few people I know are using it just for this purpose (to provide lower quality streams of their main high quaity streams)...Obviously there are caveats, such as transcoding doesn't come free, and does take quite a bit of CPU, which you may or may not want on your streaming server...But you do get the added flexibility of using whatever source client you want to use (as opposed to one that supports multiple streams)...And if you bandwith is limited at your source stream (quite often people simply using their home DSL or cable) then sending 3 streams of varying bitrates sometimes is just not an option.... anyway, if you want to get it, http://transcoder.sourceforge.net oddsock

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Mon Oct 14 13:57:51 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:57:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20021014191001.410f3580@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Michael Smith wrote: > kill -HUP pid > Replace 'pid' with the pid (process id) of the ices process. ps can tell > you that. hmmm... Our setup has ices running as 5 processes. 25140 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml 25141 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml 25142 pts/0 S 0:06 ../ices egoplay.xml 25143 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml 25144 pts/0 S 0:02 ../ices egoplay.xml So which pid do I use? The lowest one? does it matter? Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Mon Oct 14 14:03:17 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:03:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Multiple streams for different quality settings ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021014083227.03046658@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, oddsock wrote: > anyway, if you want to get it, http://transcoder.sourceforge.net Very cool! ... except there seems to be no download link. Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Mon Oct 14 14:23:52 2002 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:23:52 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Streamer / scheduler - play file at predifined time? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021015002352.410dee90@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 11:57 PM 10/14/02 +1000, you wrote: >On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Michael Smith wrote: > >> kill -HUP pid >> Replace 'pid' with the pid (process id) of the ices process. ps can tell >> you that. > >hmmm... Our setup has ices running as 5 processes. No, it doesn't. It has one process. It's an artifact of the linuxthreads implementation and the linux pstools implementation that this appears as 5 process ids. > >25140 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml >25141 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml >25142 pts/0 S 0:06 ../ices egoplay.xml >25143 pts/0 S 0:00 ../ices egoplay.xml >25144 pts/0 S 0:02 ../ices egoplay.xml > >So which pid do I use? The lowest one? does it matter? Generally the lowest one. It may not matter, I forget. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bhs at ludens.elte.hu Tue Oct 15 16:53:13 2002 From: bhs at ludens.elte.hu (Virágh Barnabás) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:53:13 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Ices dies unexpectedly!!! Message-ID: <004c01c2746b$59ff2010$1400a8c0@one> Hello! I've just started useing Icecast and Ices. Both has mainly the defaults in their conf files. fe.: Ices uses the default /ices mount point, end so on. After playing serveral hours, problems come up... Ices dies. In the ices.log these can be found: Error during send: Libshout reported send error, disconnecting: Libshout socket error. Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000/ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000/ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid ... a lot of same lines... Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000/ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid Too many stream errors, giving up Encountered error while transfering /home/mp3/balazs/ministry_of_sound-the_annual_spring2001cd1.mp3: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000/ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid DEBUG: Builtin playlist handler serving: /home/mp3/MicroMan - Evergreens Vol. 1/01. Das Nippel.mp3 DEBUG: ID3v1 song: Das Nippel DEBUG: ID3v1 artist: MicroMan DEBUG: ID3v2 tag size is 112 bytes DEBUG: Skipping to MP3 data DEBUG: Layer: III Version: MPEG-1 Frequency: 44100 DEBUG: Bitrate: 128 kbit/s Padding: 0 Mode: j-stereo DEBUG: Ext: 0 Mode_Ext: 2 Copyright: 0 Original: 1 DEBUG: Error Protection: 0 Emphasis: 0 Stereo: 2 Playing /home/mp3/MicroMan - Evergreens Vol. 1/01. Das Nippel.mp3 Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000/ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid I think the response is in the forst row, but is it a bug of ices (or maybe icecast) - if it is, is there a patch -, or is it an OS related problem (I'm useing Mandrake Linux 8.2)? What can be found in the Icecasr.log? : [15/Oct/2002:15:48:33] [185:Connection Handler] Accepted encoder on mountpoint /ices from localhost.localdomain. 1 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:48:51] [1:Calendar Thread] WARNING: Connect to yp.icecast.org failed. [15/Oct/2002:15:48:51] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [15/Oct/2002:15:48:51] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.radiostation.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:17] [187:Connection Handler] Kicking source 183 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:54:17] [187:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 183 .... some almost same rows... [15/Oct/2002:15:54:43] [213:Connection Handler] Kicking source 209 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:54:43] [213:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 209 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:43] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = -1 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:44] [214:Connection Handler] Kicking source 210 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:54:44] [214:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 210 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:44] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:44] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.radiostation.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:44] [185:Source Thread] Lost connection to source on mount /ices, waiting 5 seconds for timeout [15/Oct/2002:15:54:45] [215:Connection Handler] Accepted encoder on mountpoint /ices from localhost.localdomain. 2 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:54:45] [215:Connection Handler] Assigning listeners from pending source 181 [15/Oct/2002:15:54:45] [185:Source Thread] Kicking source 181 [localhost.localdomain] [Lost all clients to new source] [encoder], connecte d for 6 minutes and 13 seconds, 721900 bytes transfered. 1 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:54:45] [185:Source Thread] Kicking all 0 clients for source 181 [15/Oct/2002:15:58:06] [217:Connection Handler] Kicking source 213 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [15/Oct/2002:15:58:06] [217:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 213 So what the hell could be done? Is there any way of work around? BHS ps.: Sorry for the long email...

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ecook at akibia.com Tue Oct 15 16:52:18 2002 From: ecook at akibia.com (Edward Cook) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Ices On Solaris Message-ID: <200210151652.g9FGqIGa024558@ecook.akibia.com> Has anyone been able to get Ices to run on Solaris 8+ with sparc chip? I have not had any luck. ED --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From chrisp at chrispy.net Tue Oct 15 17:20:38 2002 From: chrisp at chrispy.net (Chris Parrinello) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:20:38 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Ices dies unexpectedly!!! In-Reply-To: <004c01c2746b$59ff2010$1400a8c0@one> Message-ID: <3DAC4E66.6050802@chrispy.net> Vir?gh Barnab?s wrote: > Hello! > > What can be found in the Icecasr.log? : > [15/Oct/2002:15:48:51] [1:Calendar Thread] WARNING: Connect to > yp.icecast.org failed. > > So what the hell could be done? Is there any way of work around? > > BHS > > ps.: > Sorry for the long email... In this case, I just end up removing yp.icecast.org from the list of directory servers until yp.icecast.org stablizes. Of course if icecast is in this bad state, you usually get a "Directory removal failed." message from icecast so you have to remove the directory server entry from the icecast.conf file and then restart icecast. This is a common problem that icecast seems to have the hardest time handling. Hopefully it is fixed in icecast2. Chris

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From andy at penguin1.dijit.net Tue Oct 15 18:12:14 2002 From: andy at penguin1.dijit.net (andy thomas) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:12:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: [icecast] Ices On Solaris In-Reply-To: <200210151652.g9FGqIGa024558@ecook.akibia.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Edward Cook wrote: > Has anyone been able to get Ices to run on Solaris 8+ with sparc chip? I have > not had any luck. I built it and got it running on an Ultra 5 running 2.5.1 but it used a lot of CPU resources (load avg = 1 continuously )as 2.5.1 apparently doesn't support threads. Andy --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tony at girasoli.org Sat Oct 19 00:47:24 2002 From: tony at girasoli.org (Anthony Girasoli) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:47:24 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Moving client to lower bitrate... Message-ID: <000401c27709$18a458b0$0a01140a@mcp> Hello all, I'm trying to put up an Icecast server for our radio station, WHUS, here at the University of Connecticut. Our Icecast server is running under Debian 3.0, and was installed as a stable Debian package. I'm using Liveice to convert our on-air broadcast to two streams, via a soundcard -- one for a 128kbps stream (mountpoint = highrate) and another 24kbps stream (mountpoint = lowrate). Everything was going fine until clients using the 128kbps stream started getting cut off about 2 minutes into listening to the stream. I looked into the icecast.log, and found this: [18/Oct/2002:20:32:37] [4:Source Thread] Moving client 42 [44.72.252.64.snet.net] from mount /highrate to lower bitrate on mount /lowrate Why is icecast doing that? I've searched through the mailing list archives, and couldn't find a similar problem. I also cannot find a flag I can set, to prevent icecast from doing this to the clients. Any ideas? Thank you for any help... Tony --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Sun Oct 20 04:39:32 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:39:32 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Ice2 On Demand In-Reply-To: <3DA84636.8070403@gmx.de> Message-ID: <00c401c277f2$b244f5d0$6601a8c0@xstream1> New Ice2 On Demand script written in php, frontend for the Icecast2 server and On Demand features. http://www.casterclub.com/ice2_ondemand.php Have Fun

Dave St John (C.E.O.) Xstream1.com Mediacast1.com Casterclub.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From peter.steen at ing-steen.se Sun Oct 20 16:59:33 2002 From: peter.steen at ing-steen.se (Peter Steen) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:59:33 +0200 Subject: [icecast] ICECAST STOPS AND THROWS OUT ALL STREAMS Message-ID: Hi ! I am new to the list. I have been using icecast togeahter with ices and live streamers for almost a year now. We have between 10 to 300 listeners, localsite and outside world. It has not been troublefree, icecast was stable util a week ago, just crashed and refused to work anymore. We upgraded in hope to get rid of problems. It worked for maby 24 hours and then it just stops by random after 5, 20 minutes or maby it lasts for some day and two, then icecast throws out all streams. Just after a crash we notoce that icecast which usally run in five processes, have started as maby 20 to 80 new processes. (ps -e | grep icecast) Ices reencode all streams to 128 Kilobit/s on the fly. In the logfiles we notice LOTS of Losing track of time messages. We also notice that almost all directory touches fails. In the logs we also can see that Icecast Connection Handler suddenly starts to kick all streams, and the listeners to. Icecast version 1.3.12 Ices version 0.2.3 Exherpt from icecast.log: [18/Oct/2002:22:00:51] [14:Connection Handler] Kicking source 10 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seco nds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [18/Oct/2002:22:00:51] [14:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 10 [18/Oct/2002:22:00:52] [15:Connection Handler] Kicking source 11 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 0 seco nds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [18/Oct/2002:22:00:52] [15:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 11 [18/Oct/2002:22:01:00] [16:Connection Handler] Kicking source 12 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 49710 days, 6 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected [18/Oct/2002:22:01:00] [16:Connection Handler] Kicking all 0 clients for source 12 [18/Oct/2002:22:01:03] [17:Connection Handler] Kicking source 13 [localhost.localdomain] [Invalid Mount Point] [encoder], connected for 2 seco nds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected ---- [20/Oct/2002:18:38:30] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = -1 [20/Oct/2002:18:38:30] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [20/Oct/2002:18:39:00] [1:Calendar Thread] ERROR: Losing track of time.. is it xmas already? [1035131940 - 1035131940 == 0 <= 0] [20/Oct/2002:18:39:12] [14:Connection Handler] Accepted client 10 from [anneli.ing-steen.se] on mountpoint [/ices]. 2 clients connected [20/Oct/2002:18:39:13] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 2 [anneli.ing-steen.se] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 24 minutes and 45 seconds, 23745968 bytes transfered. 1 clients connected [20/Oct/2002:18:40:00] [1:Calendar Thread] ERROR: Losing track of time.. is it xmas already? [1035132000 - 1035132000 == 0 <= 0] [20/Oct/2002:18:41:00] [1:Calendar Thread] ERROR: Losing track of time.. is it xmas already? [1035132060 - 1035132060 == 0 <= 0] [20/Oct/2002:18:42:00] [1:Calendar Thread] ERROR: Losing track of time.. is it xmas already? [1035132120 - 1035132120 == 0 <= 0] [20/Oct/2002:18:42:40] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = -1 [20/Oct/2002:18:42:48] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 Our system is a Dual PIII with 1 Gigabyte of memory and we run linux kernel-2.4.19 on a RedHat 7.1 system. Anyone whome know how to fix this problem. Than you in advance! //Peter Steen --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From spaceman at BSDzine.org Sun Oct 20 17:26:11 2002 From: spaceman at BSDzine.org (Karol Makowski) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:26:11 +0200 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE + icecast 1.3.12 problem Message-ID: <20021020172611.GA48120@dl.cku.pwr.wroc.pl> Hello I managed to compile from ports (i've used package too) icecast 1.3.12. It often works good, but sometimes i get error: [20/Oct/2002:18:43:09] Kicking unknown 11 [195.117.29.210] [Access Denied (libwrap (client connection))], connected for 6 seconds [20/Oct/2002:19:12:51] Accepted encoder on mountpoint /icy_0 from 217.98.93.59. 1 sources connected [20/Oct/2002:19:18:04] Kicking unknown 14 [217.98.93.59] [Displayed mountlist], connected for 1 seconds Fatal error 'longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX 1003.1' at line ? in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = ?) Abort trap (core dumped) gdb says: Core was generated by cecast'. Program terminated with signal 6, Abort trap. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. #0 0x28121cc0 in geteuid () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (gdb) bt #0 0x28121cc0 in geteuid () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #1 0x2816f8c6 in abort () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #2 0x2813b266 in pthread_exit () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #3 0x280fbf0a in _longjmp () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #4 0x2809ef2f in process_options () from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3 #5 0x2809eeef in process_options () from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3 #6 0x2809fe01 in hosts_access () from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3 #7 0x2809fbc8 in hosts_access () from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3 #8 0x805a91f in getsockname () #9 0x8050a39 in getsockname () #10 0x804ac4c in getsockname () #11 0x8049ebb in getsockname () #12 0x8049d2a in getsockname () #13 0x8049c21 in getsockname () (gdb) Any ideas? for now i'm compiling icecast without libwrap... PS: Please respond directly too me, cause i'm not subscribed to this list... -- Karol Makowski http://BSDzine.org spaceman at BSDzine.org --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From chrisg1 at umbc.edu Sun Oct 20 19:37:32 2002 From: chrisg1 at umbc.edu (Chris G Moguta) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:37:32 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration Message-ID: <3DB2B4AE@webmail> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a bit since I did use SHOUTcast. I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 do. [How my config file currently stands...] Here and There moguta at ffradio.net 100 10 5 15 changeme 5 yp.icecast.org 15 0.0.0.0 8000 ./ ./ access.log error.log I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! - Moguta www.ffradio.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Sun Oct 20 19:54:41 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:54:41 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <3DB2B4AE@webmail> Message-ID: <000901c27872$8b91fac0$6601a8c0@xstream1> That looks like and older version, try this one http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2/Icecast2_win32_08282002_setup.exe theres a good help file that comes with it ;-) Dave St John (C.E.O.) Xstream1.com Mediacast1.com Casterclub.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G (Moguta)" To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration

> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a bit > since I did use SHOUTcast. > > I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 do. > > [How my config file currently stands...] > > > Here and There > moguta at ffradio.net > > 100 > 10 > 5 > 15 > > changeme > > 5 > > yp.icecast.org > 15 > > > 0.0.0.0 > 8000 > > ./ > ./ > > > access.log > error.log > > > > I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! > > - Moguta > www.ffradio.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From chrisg1 at umbc.edu Sun Oct 20 20:12:34 2002 From: chrisg1 at umbc.edu (Chris G Moguta) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:12:34 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Icecast2 Configuration> Message-ID: <3DB2BEAE@webmail> Okay, thanx! But where is the "main Icecast documentation" the Help file tells me to look for? - Moguta www.ffradio.net >===== Original Message From "Dave St John" ===== >That looks like and older version, >try this one >http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2/Icecast2_win32_08282002_setup.exe >theres a good help file that comes with it ;-) > >Dave St John >(C.E.O.) >Xstream1.com >Mediacast1.com >Casterclub.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris G (Moguta)" >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:37 PM >Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration > > >> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a bit >> since I did use SHOUTcast. >> >> I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 do. >> >> [How my config file currently stands...] >> >> >> Here and There >> moguta at ffradio.net >> >> 100 >> 10 >> 5 >> 15 >> >> changeme >> >> 5 >> >> yp.icecast.org >> 15 >> >> >> 0.0.0.0 >> 8000 >> >> ./ >> ./ >> >> >> access.log >> error.log >> >> >> >> I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! >> >> - Moguta >> www.ffradio.net >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From chrisg1 at umbc.edu Sun Oct 20 21:26:04 2002 From: chrisg1 at umbc.edu (Chris G Moguta) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:26:04 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Icecast2 Configuration> Message-ID: <3DB2D63E@webmail> I think I figured everything out on my own, BUT it gives me this error each time I attempt to play a stream (using WinAmp's oddcast plugin). I have made sure multiple times that the passwords in the Icecast config file & oddcast config box are both the same! [2002-10-20 17:21:30] INFO main/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\main.c icecast server started [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c Source logging in at mountpoint "/vgm.ogg" **** [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c Source (/vgm.ogg) attempted to login with invalid or missing password **** Any help? - Moguta www.ffradio.net >===== Original Message From "Dave St John" ===== >That looks like and older version, >try this one >http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2/Icecast2_win32_08282002_setup.exe >theres a good help file that comes with it ;-) > >Dave St John >(C.E.O.) >Xstream1.com >Mediacast1.com >Casterclub.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris G (Moguta)" >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:37 PM >Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration > > >> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a bit >> since I did use SHOUTcast. >> >> I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 do. >> >> [How my config file currently stands...] >> >> >> Here and There >> moguta at ffradio.net >> >> 100 >> 10 >> 5 >> 15 >> >> changeme >> >> 5 >> >> yp.icecast.org >> 15 >> >> >> 0.0.0.0 >> 8000 >> >> ./ >> ./ >> >> >> access.log >> error.log >> >> >> >> I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! >> >> - Moguta >> www.ffradio.net >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Mon Oct 21 00:55:39 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:55:39 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <3DB2D63E@webmail> Message-ID: <002f01c2789c$96a3e570$6601a8c0@xstream1> Hmm looks like Ed (a.k.a oddsock) needs to post on this one ;-)

Dave St John (C.E.O.) Xstream1.com Mediacast1.com Casterclub.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G (Moguta)" To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration

> I think I figured everything out on my own, BUT it gives me this error each > time I attempt to play a stream (using WinAmp's oddcast plugin). I have made > sure multiple times that the passwords in the Icecast config file & oddcast > config box are both the same! > > [2002-10-20 17:21:30] INFO main/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\main.c icecast server > started > [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c > Source logging in at mountpoint "/vgm.ogg" > **** [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO > connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c Source (/vgm.ogg) attempted to > login with invalid or missing password **** > > Any help? > > - Moguta > www.ffradio.net > > >===== Original Message From "Dave St John" ===== > >That looks like and older version, > >try this one > >http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2/Icecast2_win32_08282002_setup.exe > >theres a good help file that comes with it ;-) > > > >Dave St John > >(C.E.O.) > >Xstream1.com > >Mediacast1.com > >Casterclub.com > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris G (Moguta)" > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:37 PM > >Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration > > > > > >> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a bit > >> since I did use SHOUTcast. > >> > >> I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 do. > >> > >> [How my config file currently stands...] > >> > >> > >> Here and There > >> moguta at ffradio.net > >> > >> 100 > >> 10 > >> 5 > >> 15 > >> > >> changeme > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> yp.icecast.org > >> 15 > >> > >> > >> 0.0.0.0 > >> 8000 > >> > >> ./ > >> ./ > >> > >> > >> access.log > >> error.log > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! > >> > >> - Moguta > >> www.ffradio.net > >> > >> --- >8 ---- > >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > >'icecast-request at xiph.org' > >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > >--- >8 ---- > >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jacky.buyck at rd.francetelecom.com Tue Oct 22 10:38:12 2002 From: jacky.buyck at rd.francetelecom.com (BUYCK Jacky FTRD/DMI/CAE) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Does IS+CECast support RTP ? Message-ID: Hi all. I want to know if ICECast support RTP or not ? If yes, does it exist way of securing these RTP Stream. RTP support a poor DES encryption define in RTP's RFC but SRTP (extension to RTP) begin to appear in RFC so ... what is the state of this securisation ? Really thanks to all. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Tue Oct 22 13:08:57 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:08:57 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <002f01c2789c$96a3e570$6601a8c0@xstream1> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021022080537.00ad7b50@www.oddsock.org> If you are getting "login with invalid or missing password" it means one of a few things : * you have not selected Icecast2 as the server type in the DSP config * you are not using the most current versions of both icecast2 and oddcast (http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2 for that) * you are using the most current oddcast, but have 1 in your icecast2 config. also, as far as the documentation goes, the main Icecast2 documentation has not been written yet and is in serious need of doing so...please feel free to contribute if you are able :) oddsock At 06:55 PM 10/20/2002 -0600, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris G (Moguta)" >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:26 PM >Subject: RE: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration > > > > I think I figured everything out on my own, BUT it gives me this error >each > > time I attempt to play a stream (using WinAmp's oddcast plugin). I have >made > > sure multiple times that the passwords in the Icecast config file & >oddcast > > config box are both the same! > > > > [2002-10-20 17:21:30] INFO main/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\main.c icecast >server > > started > > [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c > > Source logging in at mountpoint "/vgm.ogg" > > **** [2002-10-20 17:23:26] INFO > > connection/D:\Ed\xiph\icecast\src\connection.c Source (/vgm.ogg) attempted >to > > login with invalid or missing password **** > > > > Any help? > > > > - Moguta > > www.ffradio.net > > > > >===== Original Message From "Dave St John" ===== > > >That looks like and older version, > > >try this one > > >http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2/Icecast2_win32_08282002_setup.exe > > >theres a good help file that comes with it ;-) > > > > > >Dave St John > > >(C.E.O.) > > >Xstream1.com > > >Mediacast1.com > > >Casterclub.com > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Chris G (Moguta)" > > >To: > > >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:37 PM > > >Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration > > > > > > > > >> I've used SHOUTcast before, but I'm new to IceCast... and it's been a >bit > > >> since I did use SHOUTcast. > > >> > > >> I need to know what the various configuration fields in Icecast2 Win32 >do. > > >> > > >> [How my config file currently stands...] > > >> > > >> > > >> Here and There > > >> moguta at ffradio.net > > >> > > >> 100 > > >> 10 > > >> 5 > > >> 15 > > >> > > >> changeme > > >> > > >> 5 > > >> > > >> yp.icecast.org > > >> 15 > > >> > > >> > > >> 0.0.0.0 > > >> 8000 > > >> > > >> ./ > > >> ./ > > >> > > >> > > >> access.log > > >> error.log > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I'd really appreciate any help! Thank you! > > >> > > >> - Moguta > > >> www.ffradio.net > > >> > > >> --- >8 ---- > > >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > >'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >needed. > > >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > >--- >8 ---- > > >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >needed. > > >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Tue Oct 22 13:21:38 2002 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:21:38 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 Configuration In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021022080537.00ad7b50@www.oddsock.org> Message-ID: <3DB550E2.A102CE5D@gmx.net> oddsock wrote: > * you are using the most current oddcast, but have 1 > in your icecast2 config. Small correction here, the directive in question is called

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asmadi.ali at kustem.edu.my Tue Oct 22 23:47:04 2002 From: asmadi.ali at kustem.edu.my (Asmadi Ali) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:47:04 +0800 (MYT) Subject: [icecast] mount point In-Reply-To: <3DB550E2.A102CE5D@gmx.net> Message-ID: <2927.202.190.113.28.1035330424.squirrel@mail.kustem.edu.my> hello...everybody... i have a question about mount point ... if i want to separate the streaming by category, let say i want to play an english category song. Then what should i do is just go to http://putera-trg.kustem/english and the song plays. if i want to play rock category songs, then just go to http://putera-trg.kustem/rock and the songs play. This is about a mount point but i still not understand how to create the mount point. is it necessary to set the mount point in the shout.conf & icecast.conf file? Is so, please give me some example or reference in how to create the mount point. For your information, i'm using icecast-1.3.7 and shout-0.8 server on slackware linux. any help is much-much appreciated..... -regards asmadi

_________________________________________________________________ Inflex - install di dalam email server bagi domain @kustem.edu.my Sebarang Pertanyaan: postmaster at kustem.edu.my --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brett at blzj.com Tue Oct 22 23:52:27 2002 From: brett at blzj.com (Brett Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:52:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] mount point In-Reply-To: <2927.202.190.113.28.1035330424.squirrel@mail.kustem.edu.my> Message-ID: <1257.192.168.169.190.1035330747.squirrel@quimby.blzj.com> i am no expert, but i believe that the mount points are controlled by the streaming client (in your case shout). When the client attaches to the server, it creates the mount point on the server. I am using ices 2 (instead of shout), and in my ices.conf file (or on the command line), I specify the mount point. In my case, I have 2 shell scripts that I run at bootup that create 2 mount points, one is a 192k stream (mount point ices192 specified on the command line i.e. ices -m ices192 -all the other options) for my lan, and another 56k stream (mount point ices56) which is accessible by internet users. I hope this helps clear things up. brett > hello...everybody... > > i have a question about mount point ... > > if i want to separate the streaming by category, let say i want to play > an english category song. > Then what should i do is just go to http://putera-trg.kustem/english and > the song plays. > if i want to play rock category songs, then just go to > http://putera-trg.kustem/rock and the > songs play. > > This is about a mount point but i still not understand how to create the > mount point. > is it necessary to set the mount point in the shout.conf & icecast.conf > file? Is so, please give > me some example or reference in how to create the mount point. > > For your information, i'm using icecast-1.3.7 and shout-0.8 server on > slackware linux. > any help is much-much appreciated..... > > -regards > > asmadi > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Inflex - install di dalam email server bagi domain @kustem.edu.my > Sebarang Pertanyaan: postmaster at kustem.edu.my > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the > body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will > be ignored/filtered.

Random Thought: -------------- Now I know someone out there is going to claim, "Well then, UNIX is intuitive, because you only need to learn 5000 commands, and then everything else follows from that! Har har har!" -- Andy Bates on "intuitive interfaces", slightly defending Macs

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Oct 23 01:46:41 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:46:41 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] mount point In-Reply-To: <2927.202.190.113.28.1035330424.squirrel@mail.kustem.edu.my> Message-ID: Hi: Mount points are created when a source connects to it. So in your case, you'd configure shout to use the mount point that you want and icecast will do the rest. Note that shout is no longer supported and icecast 1.3.7 is ancient. Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Wed Oct 23 02:05:48 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:05:48 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Ices channel and samplerate settings In-Reply-To: <1257.192.168.169.190.1035330747.squirrel@quimby.blzj.com> Message-ID: <008a01c27a38$b85ac970$6601a8c0@xstream1> Can someone break down the channel mode and samplerate settings in ices 1 for me Ill even fill out the questions, just fill em in for me ;-) 0 = ? 1 = ? 2 = ? 0 = ? -1 = ? -2 = ? -3 = ? -4 = ? Thanx in advance guys

Dave St John (C.E.O.) Xstream1.com Mediacast1.com Casterclub.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at lpbn.org Wed Oct 23 03:35:33 2002 From: rsteding at lpbn.org (rsteding) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:35:33 -0700 Subject: [icecast] mount point In-Reply-To: <2927.202.190.113.28.1035330424.squirrel@mail.kustem.edu.my> Message-ID: <3DB61905.3030505@lpbn.org> Hello: I have a question about Top. When I run top on any of the LPBN servers that icecast is running on CPU state is always at 100% utilization and icecast is always taking up all the rescources. I don't believe this is true because I can add additional services and even use the server as a workstation. Does anyone know if icecast takes over all available resources of the computer that it is installed on? Raymond --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From japc at co.sapo.pt Wed Oct 23 16:07:46 2002 From: japc at co.sapo.pt (Jose Celestino) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:07:46 +0100 Subject: [icecast] and and in stats.log Message-ID: <20021023160746.GR8553@co.sapo.pt> minutes gets repeated at nice_time_minutes. patch attached -- Jose Celestino SysAdmin::SAPO.pt http://www.sapo.pt ----------------------------------------------------- "Lately, the only thing keeping me from becoming a serial killer is my distaste for manual labor." -- Dilbert -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: patch-icecast.andand URL: From reubendb at innovativethought.com Thu Oct 24 23:06:50 2002 From: reubendb at innovativethought.com (Reuben D. Budiardja) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:06:50 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Streaming info in HTML Message-ID: <200210241906.51287.reubendb@innovativethought.com> Hi, Once upon a time, I can access the admin information such as client connected, streaming title/artist, etc, from web browser by browsing: http://servername:port/admin I used to had this just worked when I installed icecast and ices on the same machine. I then switch machines and have icecast in machine A, ices in machine B, connecting to icecast using mountpoint to machine A. Now I can't figure out how to have those information through the web again. When I browse: http://machineA:port/admin I got "403 FORBIDDEN You don't have access to this entity (stream or file)" How do I get this to work? Is this information available on the machine that running icecast (the streamer server) or the one that running ices (the streamer client) ? if yes, where? I looked through icecast.conf and still can't figure this out. In general, is the information such as song title and artist available in the machine that is running icecast, and where. The problem is that some mp3 client incapable of displaying streamed infor such as song title, and I'd like to find a way to make that available. Thanks in advance for any help. Reuben D. B. -- ------------------------------------------------- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML \ / email and proprietary format X attachments. / \ ------------------------------------------------- Have you been used by Microsoft today? Choose your life. Choose freedom. Choose LINUX. ------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brett at blzj.com Fri Oct 25 12:36:46 2002 From: brett at blzj.com (Brett Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:36:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Streaming info in HTML In-Reply-To: <200210241906.51287.reubendb@innovativethought.com> Message-ID: <3393.192.168.169.190.1035549406.squirrel@quimby.blzj.com> It sounds like you have turned on either tcp wrappers or the built in ACL. If you are using ice cast 1.3.12 (and maybe earlier versions), look at the last section in the icecast.conf file. It should be labeled Acess Control Lists. This talks about the two methods of allowing/denying access to the icecast server. My guess would be, if you didn't explicity setup your tcp wrappers (tcpd) using your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny, then you probably changed a directive in the ACL section of your icecast.conf. As an example, using the icecast.conf ACL, I set my default acl policy to deny everything. I find it easier to lock down the system, and unlock things when needed. acl_policy 0 #deny all connections by default Then, of course, I do want people to be able to listen to my server, (otherwise, why bother) allow client * #this allows anyone to connect as a listening client Now, the rest of the serverices I only want to be accessed from a machine in my domain. (This includes, client [already covered by previous statement], source [so only my machines can provide a stream to the server], and of course admin [so only machines in my domain can connect to the admin site]) allow all *.mydomain.net In this configuration, I did find a bug this morning. I jumped on the icecast server, pulled up mozilla, and tried to access http://localhost:port/admin. BOOM! 403, Access Denied! The server is doing as it is told. localhost is not in my domain. Now, if I user icecast.mydomain.net:port/admin, from the same machine, I can get it =). So, in my case, I need to update my acl, and add allow all localhost This will correct my problems. I would assume you issue is something similar. brett

> Hi, > Once upon a time, I can access the admin information such as client > connected, streaming title/artist, etc, from web browser by browsing: > http://servername:port/admin > > I used to had this just worked when I installed icecast and ices on the > same machine. > I then switch machines and have icecast in machine A, ices in machine B, > connecting to icecast using mountpoint to machine A. > > Now I can't figure out how to have those information through the web > again. When I browse: > http://machineA:port/admin > I got "403 FORBIDDEN You don't have access to this entity (stream or > file)" > > How do I get this to work? Is this information available on the machine > that running icecast (the streamer server) or the one that running ices > (the streamer client) ? if yes, where? > > I looked through icecast.conf and still can't figure this out. In > general, is the information such as song title and artist available in > the machine that is running icecast, and where. > > The problem is that some mp3 client incapable of displaying streamed > infor such as song title, and I'd like to find a way to make that > available. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > Reuben D. B. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML > \ / email and proprietary format > X attachments. > / \ > ------------------------------------------------- > Have you been used by Microsoft today? > Choose your life. Choose freedom. > Choose LINUX. > ------------------------------------------------- > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the > body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will > be ignored/filtered.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mwollenweber at msn.com Sat Oct 26 17:30:11 2002 From: mwollenweber at msn.com (Matthew Wollenweber) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:30:11 -0400 Subject: [icecast] disconnect Message-ID: I'm having problems with clients bing disconnected. I get the following error:

[26/Oct/2002:12:40:54] Kicking client 11 [hostname] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 7 minutes and 43 seconds, 9404432 bytes transfered. 1 clients connected

this doesn't make sense, my localhost gets disconnect for the same reason. Also, often I don't hear any errors (as several other clients have also said). Anyone familiar with this problem? Is there a tolerance somewhere that i can change? thanks!

_________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Oct 27 11:49:46 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:49:46 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Broadcast schedular Message-ID: Hi: I wonder if anyone here knows of a project that will do what I'm looking for. I need a program to produce playlists for ices or ices2 (both, initially) that can play some items randomly while playing other content in sequence or at specific times. What I'm looking for is something that will produce playlists acording to a format clock as is used in the radio industry. I need to be able to tell it, for example, to schedule a sponsorship from a particular company in every second hour. I've found a couple of things that have potential but don't suit my requirements. Tobasco's Amazing Clock & Wheel (http://www.riograndemud.com/clockwheel/clockwheel.htm) does the kind of thing I want, as far as I can tell, but has two drawbacks. First, it runs under windows. I want something that runs under LInux. Secondly, it uses a GUI. I need something that is text-based. since this is all about defining rules, this ought to be possible with a configuration file of some sort. The other project that looks like it might have potential is Mambo Jambo PLaylist (http://www.oddsock.org/tools/mjplaylist). This seems to have more of a textual approach. Unfortunately, it also runs under windows and I'm somewhat disinclined to install it just to see if it's the sort of thing I want, when I need something that runs under LInux anyway. It also seems to lack the ability to play items in sequence, which will be needed for this project. I've scoured freshmeat and not come across anything, or at least nothing that *appears* to be what I want. Is anyone here using the kind of thing I'm looking for? If so what? Thanks in advance, Geoff.

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lindner.markus at web.de Sat Oct 26 23:37:45 2002 From: lindner.markus at web.de (Markus Lindner) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:37:45 +0200 Subject: [icecast] On demand relay from shoutcast .... Message-ID: <000001c27d48$b01c57c0$1500a8c0@ws12> Hello ., maybe this could be again a stupid question... But I've tried over serval weeks to get a on demand relay stream from A southcast server. I have defined a mountpoint via an alias directive at the icecast.conf file. At the logfile a would recognize the two lines.. -->On demand realy for [.] -> [.] failed, damn! -->Kicking unknown 0 [.] [No encoder], connected for xx seconds Must I recode the incoming mp3 stream from shoutcast or it is not possible to realy such Streams from shoutcast-servers . Kind regards markus

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lindner.markus at web.de Sun Oct 27 22:02:25 2002 From: lindner.markus at web.de (Markus Lindner) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:02:25 +0100 Subject: [icecast] On demand relay from shoutcast .... Message-ID: <000901c27e04$88701150$1500a8c0@ws12> Hello ., maybe this could be again a stupid question... But I've tried over serval weeks to get a on demand relay stream from A southcast server. I have defined a mountpoint via an alias directive at the icecast.conf file. At the logfile a would recognize the two lines.. -->On demand realy for [.] -> [.] failed, damn! -->Kicking unknown 0 [.] [No encoder], connected for xx seconds Must I recode the incoming mp3 stream from shoutcast or it is not possible to realy such Streams from shoutcast-servers . Kind regards markus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7329 bytes Desc: winmail.dat URL: From lemmingsml at nerim.fr Mon Oct 28 23:18:49 2002 From: lemmingsml at nerim.fr (EISELE Pascal) Date: 29 Oct 2002 00:18:49 +0100 Subject: [icecast] S.O.S Password Message-ID: <1035847129.1996.5.camel@badamiga> Hi, I need some help... I've installed an icecast server but I can't use shout because it's always talking about "bad password". My icecast server use crypted password. I think the problem came from mkpasswd. I always get a different password when I use mkpasswd toto. Help me please.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Tue Oct 29 02:56:15 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:56:15 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <200210241906.51287.reubendb@innovativethought.com> Message-ID: <3DBDF8CF.6090607@tecwise.com> Hello: I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I have three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 years - several times a week. The music will be offered for an Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered as downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up their own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will webcast live concerts and do interviews with musicians as well as have a video comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio station that uses Icecast? Raymond --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adam at xs4all.nl Tue Oct 29 09:42:04 2002 From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:42:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBDF8CF.6090607@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <20021029103713.S61518-100000@xs1.xs4all.nl> what do want the tool to do? you could look at a tool in development called the Frequency Clock -> http://frequencyclock.montevideo.nl its a dev server but you can get the idea, an example of the player output by the system is linked from http://www.radioqualia.net

adam On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Raymond wrote: > Hello: > > I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all > local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I have > three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 years - > several times a week. The music will be offered for an Internet radio > station. Some of the music will be offered as downloads. I'd like to > offer the users the ability to make up their own playlists out of the > music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will webcast live concerts and do > interviews with musicians as well as have a video comedy mini-series > about the life of rock bands. > > Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio station > that uses Icecast? > > Raymond > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

Adam Hyde "free, as in 'radio'"

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Tue Oct 29 16:43:46 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:43:46 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <20021029103713.S61518-100000@xs1.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <3DBEBAC2.7080901@tecwise.com> Hello Adam: I checked it out. It is cool and that is probabaly what I would like to impress drug crazed yet very talented musicians with. I'll get back to you with what the front end is to do. I have a bulletin board on the LPBN called radiostation that has some notes up. My friend Stephen Provizer the Allston Curmudgeon covers all the latest proceedings of DMCA/RIAA/CARP by discussing the issues with top Internet music sites and legal authorities. That may be of interest to you. I'm preparing a form of media/music that will likely take over the music industry by making available the millions of different types of music to the millions of different types of music listeners. I beleive that a huge pool of music should be made available to the public vs the current control/limit access model used by the record labels. I also think that when the local bands have more access than the controlled media bands the entire music industry will change forever. My goal is to provide as much public access to local musicians as possible. I'm starting with Los Angeles. Today's AC show is listed below. Allston Curmudgeon, Tuesday, October 29, 6-7 PM. Allston-Brighton Free Radio Local Broadcast: 1670 AM Webcast: http://www.abfreeradio.org S.G. Provizer talks with Michael Papish, CEO of Media Unbound. Papish has long been involved in several aspects of on-line digital music: distribution, regulation,rate-setting...He will take us back to the mid-90's and show how the groundwork was laid for passage of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and bring us up to speed on current activity. SInce his organization, Media Unbound, claims to provide "...a breakthrough in accurately and conveniently personalizing digital music," we will discuss what filters or conduits have traditionally been used to provide information about music, how that's changing and whether there are parallels to the delivery of news. You are invited to offer your comments during the show: Instant messaging: abfree1670 Call-in line: 617-254-2728 Rebroadcast locally on WJIB 740 AM on Sunday, November 3 at 10:30 PM. A-B Free Radio Archives: http://www.lpbn.org look under Allston Curmudgeon. http://www.lpbn.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=index&catid=&topic=7 Raymond adam wrote: >what do want the tool to do? > >you could look at a tool in development called the Frequency Clock -> >http://frequencyclock.montevideo.nl >its a dev server but you can get the idea, an example of the player output >by the system is linked from http://www.radioqualia.net > > >adam > >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Raymond wrote: > > > >>Hello: >> >>I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all >>local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I have >>three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 years - >>several times a week. The music will be offered for an Internet radio >>station. Some of the music will be offered as downloads. I'd like to >>offer the users the ability to make up their own playlists out of the >>music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will webcast live concerts and do >>interviews with musicians as well as have a video comedy mini-series >>about the life of rock bands. >> >>Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio station >>that uses Icecast? >> >>Raymond >> >>--- >8 ---- >>List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >>Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >> >> >> > > > > >Adam Hyde >"free, as in 'radio'" > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > >

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Tue Oct 29 18:17:47 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:17:47 -0700 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <1035847129.1996.5.camel@badamiga> Message-ID: <20021029111747.28e83ae2.richard@freespeech.org> I'm doing a top on my server (ices2 and icecast2 from CVS) and ices is using 14% of my cpu cycles - bastard! One channel is doing reencoing and when I just play an ogg without reencoding. The ogg file was encoded at 64kbs 44khz ********** 8000 ********* /lowbandwidth.ogg 16000 11000 1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Tue Oct 29 18:42:15 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:42:15 -0700 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig Message-ID: <20021029114215.3a5ddaab.richard@freespeech.org> I'm doing a top on my server (ices2 and icecast2 from CVS) and ices is using 14% of my cpu cycles - bastard! One channel is doing reencoing and when I just play an ogg without reencoding. The ogg file was encoded at 64kbs 44khz ********** 8000 ********* /lowbandwidth.ogg 16000 11000 1 Regards Richard --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail Tue Oct 29 23:50:44 2002 From: NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail (NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:50:44 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBDF8CF.6090607@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <3DBF1ED4.6040206@agt.net> hi I wonder if you would like to join my localplayer.com network? I operate on the same philosophy. All my artists are unsigned and I have their consent to stream their music. on my station. I envision a drop down menu that helps me navigate to the city of my choice. Raymond wrote: > Hello: > > I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all > local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I > have three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 > years - several times a week. The music will be offered for an > Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered as > downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up their > own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will webcast > live concerts and do interviews with musicians as well as have a video > comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. > > Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio > station that uses Icecast? > > Raymond > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- Murray Nelson mnpicker at agt.net ICQ # 53460269 Phone/FAX/Data (403)328-4261 (push 2 to leave message) #207 324 7 St South Lethbridge Alberta Canada T1J 2G2 Aardvark Recorders/Lost Lemon Records/Most Unusual Music (publishing) Online AV content provider featuring AV streams of local live musicians. http://www.localplayer.com Guitar Instruction. http://www.studio-lessons.com

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Wed Oct 30 01:43:59 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:43:59 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBF1ED4.6040206@agt.net> Message-ID: <3DBF395F.5020700@tecwise.com> Yes, I'm listening to Aardvark Recorders Present: Local Players - one.mp3 So you want to syndicate? Or you want both localplayers and the LPBN to just share stuff. Anyway I like the idea and am ready to move ahead. I have a bulletin board on the LPBN for the radio station but I think if I create a mail group it will be easier to communicate with all the people that are building the system. That would be myself, Vessy Mink, Clay Claiborne and Steve Libis and yourself and this is likely to grow very fast. The LPBN is growing like really fast. I have about sixteen hours of video that I haven't put up yet. 8 hours of which is the Infiniband roadshow - IBM, Intel and BMC software. Adelphia Cable is in trouble and they seem like they want to begin working with LPBN. I have some stuff of theirs that is going up in the next couple of days. Let me know how you want to do this or what your ideas are. Raymond NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: > hi I wonder if you would like to join my localplayer.com network? I > operate on the same philosophy. All my artists are unsigned and I have > their consent to stream their music. on my station. I envision a drop > down menu that helps me navigate to the city of my choice. > > Raymond wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all >> local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I >> have three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 >> years - several times a week. The music will be offered for an >> Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered as >> downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up their >> own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will >> webcast live concerts and do interviews with musicians as well as >> have a video comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. >> >> Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio >> station that uses Icecast? >> >> Raymond >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >> needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >> >

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Oct 30 03:19:53 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:19:53 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <20021029111747.28e83ae2.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Richard wrote: > I'm doing a top on my server (ices2 and icecast2 from CVS) and ices is > using 14% of my cpu cycles - bastard! One channel is doing reencoing > and when I just play an ogg without reencoding. The ogg file was > encoded at 64kbs 44khz Don't know if it helps, but you're not using the same format as I am for our re-encodes. > > {snip} > > 16000 hmmmm. I've not used this tag. You'd either have to use a managed mode or select quality by bitrate.

> 11000 > 1 > > you don't seem to have the resample and downmix steps. I'm not sure that what you've got there would even work (I don't know). But using code based on the examples, here's how I'd do what I *think* you want to do: host.domain 8000 P455W0rd /mountpoint.ogg -1 11025 1 1 44100 11025 Good luck! Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail Wed Oct 30 05:48:19 2002 From: NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail (NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:48:19 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBF395F.5020700@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <3DBF72A3.2080008@agt.net> Sorry for my ignorance but what is the LPBN???? I don't think my main stream was running after I mailed you earlier today. It is running right now. Do you have an URL for LPBN??? Raymond wrote: > Yes, I'm listening to Aardvark Recorders Present: Local Players - one.mp3 > > So you want to syndicate? Or you want both localplayers and the LPBN > to just share stuff. Anyway I like the idea and am ready to move > ahead. I have a bulletin board on the LPBN for the radio station but I > think if I create a mail group it will be easier to communicate with > all the people that are building the system. That would be myself, > Vessy Mink, Clay Claiborne and Steve Libis and yourself and this is > likely to grow very fast. The LPBN is growing like really fast. I have > about sixteen hours of video that I haven't put up yet. 8 hours of > which is the Infiniband roadshow - IBM, Intel and BMC software. > Adelphia Cable is in trouble and they seem like they want to begin > working with LPBN. I have some stuff of theirs that is going up in the > next couple of days. Let me know how you want to do this or what your > ideas are. > > Raymond > > NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: > >> hi I wonder if you would like to join my localplayer.com network? I >> operate on the same philosophy. All my artists are unsigned and I >> have their consent to stream their music. on my station. I envision a >> drop down menu that helps me navigate to the city of my choice. >> >> Raymond wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from all >>> local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record labels. I >>> have three people that have been recording local bands for over 5 >>> years - several times a week. The music will be offered for an >>> Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered as >>> downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up their >>> own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will >>> webcast live concerts and do interviews with musicians as well as >>> have a video comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. >>> >>> Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio >>> station that uses Icecast? >>> >>> Raymond >>> >>> --- >8 ---- >>> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >>> needed. >>> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >>> >> > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- Murray Nelson mnpicker at agt.net ICQ # 53460269 Phone/FAX/Data (403)328-4261 (push 2 to leave message) #207 324 7 St South Lethbridge Alberta Canada T1J 2G2 Aardvark Recorders/Lost Lemon Records/Most Unusual Music (publishing) Online AV content provider featuring AV streams of local live musicians. http://www.localplayer.com Guitar Instruction. http://www.studio-lessons.com

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Wed Oct 30 06:07:11 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:07:11 +1100 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <20021029111747.28e83ae2.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021030170711.4270fd60@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 11:17 AM 29/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I'm doing a top on my server (ices2 and icecast2 from CVS) and ices is >using 14% of my cpu cycles - bastard! One channel is doing reencoing >and when I just play an ogg without reencoding. The ogg file was >encoded at 64kbs 44khz Is this praise, a bug report, a question, or other? If you're having a problem with the software, it helps if you state what the problem _is_. Michael

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Wed Oct 30 06:24:27 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:24:27 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBF72A3.2080008@agt.net> Message-ID: <3DBF7B1B.3020102@tecwise.com> Hi: I really liked the music on your 32kbps stream. That is what I listened to. It is very high quality low bandwidth. You must have a recording studio as well as the station. The website for the Linux Public Broadcasting Network is www.lpbn.org I'll create a mailing list for radio on LPBN later tonight so our emails don't disrupte the kind folks at icecast. Just a note, on Sunday I asked Stephen Proviser of the Allston Curmudgeon about what waivers I may need the musicians to sign. I believe his guest on today's show (see the Allston Curmudgeon 10-29-2002) tells exactly what I need for the artistis to release their music onto the LPBN. Also about the big names in the last email...well I don't necessarily like big named companies I just wanted to show that the big guns are getting behind the Linux Public Broadcasting Network. Check out this Saturday's webcast from the University of Southern California of the Southern California Linux Expo Live on the LPBN. I am one of the speakers at the expo. see linux.usc.edu for more info. I think the pull down menu is a good start. I don't have the music in radio station format yet but I have someone working on it. Can I add your station to a pull down menu on the LPBN? Raymond NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: > Sorry for my ignorance but what is the LPBN???? I don't think my main > stream was running after I mailed you earlier today. It is running > right now. Do you have an URL for LPBN??? > > Raymond wrote: > >> Yes, I'm listening to Aardvark Recorders Present: Local Players - >> one.mp3 >> >> So you want to syndicate? Or you want both localplayers and the LPBN >> to just share stuff. Anyway I like the idea and am ready to move >> ahead. I have a bulletin board on the LPBN for the radio station but >> I think if I create a mail group it will be easier to communicate >> with all the people that are building the system. That would be >> myself, Vessy Mink, Clay Claiborne and Steve Libis and yourself and >> this is likely to grow very fast. The LPBN is growing like really >> fast. I have about sixteen hours of video that I haven't put up yet. >> 8 hours of which is the Infiniband roadshow - IBM, Intel and BMC >> software. Adelphia Cable is in trouble and they seem like they want >> to begin working with LPBN. I have some stuff of theirs that is going >> up in the next couple of days. Let me know how you want to do this or >> what your ideas are. >> >> Raymond >> >> NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: >> >>> hi I wonder if you would like to join my localplayer.com network? I >>> operate on the same philosophy. All my artists are unsigned and I >>> have their consent to stream their music. on my station. I envision >>> a drop down menu that helps me navigate to the city of my choice. >>> >>> Raymond wrote: >>> >>>> Hello: >>>> >>>> I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from >>>> all local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record >>>> labels. I have three people that have been recording local bands >>>> for over 5 years - several times a week. The music will be offered >>>> for an Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered as >>>> downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up their >>>> own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also will >>>> webcast live concerts and do interviews with musicians as well as >>>> have a video comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio >>>> station that uses Icecast? >>>> >>>> Raymond >>>> >>>> --- >8 ---- >>>> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>>> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>>> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>>> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >>>> needed. >>>> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >> needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >> >

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From clement at xeleven.net Wed Oct 30 15:14:13 2002 From: clement at xeleven.net (clement) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:14:13 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast statistics Message-ID: <049001c28027$04676500$0b00000a@web> hi i'm looking for a statistics tool for icecast is there a log parser or something like that ?

thx clement

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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail Wed Oct 30 18:21:09 2002 From: NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail (NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:09 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Re: The LPBN radio station. In-Reply-To: <3DBF7B1B.3020102@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <3DC02315.6010708@agt.net> I just posted a little note. I am a member. I see you are using PostNuke. I use phpWebsite for some of the sites I administer. Yes I have a recording studio where work with some local people. I know audio. That is why my stream is clear. I stream other productions though not just my own. Raymond wrote: > Hi: > > I really liked the music on your 32kbps stream. That is what I > listened to. It is very high quality low bandwidth. You must have a > recording studio as well as the station. The website for the Linux > Public Broadcasting Network is www.lpbn.org > I'll create a mailing list for radio on LPBN later tonight so our > emails don't disrupte the kind folks at icecast. > Just a note, on Sunday I asked Stephen Proviser of the Allston > Curmudgeon about what waivers I may need the musicians to sign. I > believe his guest on today's show (see the Allston Curmudgeon > 10-29-2002) tells exactly what I need for the artistis to release > their music onto the LPBN. > Also about the big names in the last email...well I don't necessarily > like big named companies I just wanted to show that the big guns are > getting behind the Linux Public Broadcasting Network. Check out this > Saturday's webcast from the University of Southern California of the > Southern California Linux Expo Live on the LPBN. I am one of the > speakers at the expo. see linux.usc.edu for more info. > > I think the pull down menu is a good start. I don't have the music in > radio station format yet but I have someone working on it. Can I add > your station to a pull down menu on the LPBN? > > Raymond > > NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: > >> Sorry for my ignorance but what is the LPBN???? I don't think my >> main stream was running after I mailed you earlier today. It is >> running right now. Do you have an URL for LPBN??? >> >> Raymond wrote: >> >>> Yes, I'm listening to Aardvark Recorders Present: Local Players - >>> one.mp3 >>> >>> So you want to syndicate? Or you want both localplayers and the LPBN >>> to just share stuff. Anyway I like the idea and am ready to move >>> ahead. I have a bulletin board on the LPBN for the radio station but >>> I think if I create a mail group it will be easier to communicate >>> with all the people that are building the system. That would be >>> myself, Vessy Mink, Clay Claiborne and Steve Libis and yourself and >>> this is likely to grow very fast. The LPBN is growing like really >>> fast. I have about sixteen hours of video that I haven't put up yet. >>> 8 hours of which is the Infiniband roadshow - IBM, Intel and BMC >>> software. Adelphia Cable is in trouble and they seem like they want >>> to begin working with LPBN. I have some stuff of theirs that is >>> going up in the next couple of days. Let me know how you want to do >>> this or what your ideas are. >>> >>> Raymond >>> >>> NetscapeSix at ChoiceMail wrote: >>> >>>> hi I wonder if you would like to join my localplayer.com network? I >>>> operate on the same philosophy. All my artists are unsigned and I >>>> have their consent to stream their music. on my station. I envision >>>> a drop down menu that helps me navigate to the city of my choice. >>>> >>>> Raymond wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello: >>>>> >>>>> I'm starting a radio station on the LPBN. The music will be from >>>>> all local Los Angeles bands that have not signed onto record >>>>> labels. I have three people that have been recording local bands >>>>> for over 5 years - several times a week. The music will be offered >>>>> for an Internet radio station. Some of the music will be offered >>>>> as downloads. I'd like to offer the users the ability to make up >>>>> their own playlists out of the music on the LPBN. The LPBN also >>>>> will webcast live concerts and do interviews with musicians as >>>>> well as have a video comedy mini-series about the life of rock bands. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of a good management tool for an Internet radio >>>>> station that uses Icecast? >>>>> >>>>> Raymond >>>>> >>>>> --- >8 ---- >>>>> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>>>> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>>>> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>>>> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >>>>> needed. >>>>> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >8 ---- >>> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>> 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From greg at hoochiepep.com Wed Oct 30 20:19:46 2002 From: greg at hoochiepep.com (Gregory J.Grubbs) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:19:46 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Parsing the icecast stats log Message-ID: <20021030131946.1377d69f.greg@hoochiepep.com> Hello All, I wrote a PHP function to parse the icecast stats log and return as much information in a structured array as possible (well, as much as I care about, anyway). Because the stats log is not easily machine-parseable, I thought this might be useful to somebody. The log is parsed using Perl-compatible regexps, so it should easily port. I have only my own setup to test this on, so I'm sure it will break on different setups. My setup is icecast 1.3.12 on Linux, using the ices from CVS on September 18, 2002. The function get_icecast_stats() is included in the attached file icecastlog.inc, and sample output is included icecast_stats.txt (simply a print_r of the returned result). You will only need to set the value of $iceroot to allow the function to find the stats log. My icecast server is not public, so don't worry about unmodified URLs in the sample output! -Gregory J. Grubbs

-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: icecastlog.inc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3438 bytes Desc: icecastlog.inc URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: icecast_stats.txt URL: From richard at freespeech.org Wed Oct 30 21:53:50 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:53:50 -0700 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20021030170711.4270fd60@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <20021030145350.527bd252.richard@freespeech.org> Bastard is used in a negative context here :) A snippit of a top command reveals: PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 3246 root 15 0 2436 2436 1280 S 10.5 3.9 0:14 ices

I am re encoding using: 8000 11025 1 -1 Seems like its chewing up a lot a cpu cycles or is this by design? R

n Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:07:11 +1100 Michael Smith wrote: > At 11:17 AM 29/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm doing a top on my server (ices2 and icecast2 from CVS) and ices > >is using 14% of my cpu cycles - bastard! One channel is doing > >reencoing and when I just play an ogg without reencoding. The ogg > >file was encoded at 64kbs 44khz > > Is this praise, a bug report, a question, or other? If you're having > a problem with the software, it helps if you state what the problem > _is_. > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards Richard ------------------------------------------ .' `. |a_a| Richard at Jacana.Net \ V / Phone: 303.931.1414 /( )\ Fax: 309.422.5703 |\`> < /\ \_|=='|_/ ------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rvelez at sunguruz.com Wed Oct 30 23:00:15 2002 From: rvelez at sunguruz.com (rvelez) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:00:15 -0500 Subject: [icecast] FW: Problem with ICES make on Solaris 8 sparc Message-ID: <000501c28068$1c083810$0300a8c0@sunguruz.com> Hey guys I am running Solaris 8 (sparc), I downloaded icecast-1.3.12.tar.gz as well as ices-0.2.3.tar.gz. I successfully installed icecast with your regular ./configure, make , make install. No problems at all. However when I ran make on ices I got this: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o ices ices.o log.o setup.o stream.o util.o mp3.o cue.o metadata.o id3.o signals.o playlist/libplaylist.a ../libshout/.libs/libices.al -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/sun4-solaris/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/sun4-solaris/CORE -lperl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -lm -lc Undefined first referenced symbol in file inet_aton ../libshout/.libs/libices.al(sock.lo) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to ices collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [ices] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/opt/local/src/ices-0.2.3/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/local/src/ices-0.2.3/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/local/src/ices-0.2.3' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Tried to look through the archives and google but haven't had any success figuring out what exactly is wrong. Can anyone shed some light here? Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys =) ############################################# #!/bin/sh echo "Some say its all about 2000, real engineers know its all about the Epoch" #############################################

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Wed Oct 30 23:12:10 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:12:10 -0700 Subject: [icecast] re endcoding syntatx ices2? Message-ID: <20021030161210.2964ba5d.richard@freespeech.org> G'day, doing a spot of reencoding on my 64k ogg files, trying to create a stream for those poor sods who are still on dial up. The syntax below works - gives me a 28k stream. Seems like the bitrate has little effect on the reencoding. Anyone know all the commands I can use - still no documentation for this ver2 of ices and icecast hey?

8000 22050 1 2 Regards Richard --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Oct 31 09:01:24 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:01:24 +1100 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <20021030145350.527bd252.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021031200124.43190930@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 02:53 PM 30/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Bastard is used in a negative context here :) A snippit of a top >command reveals: > >PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND >3246 root 15 0 2436 2436 1280 S 10.5 3.9 0:14 ices > > >I am re encoding using: > > > 8000 > 11025 > 1 > -1 > > >Seems like its chewing up a lot a cpu cycles or is this by design? > Considering you're doing on-the-fly downsampling and re-encoding, this is pretty good. ices is designed to be very efficient if all it's doing is streaming the content, but it's slow (for obvious reasons) if it has to decode and re-encode the data that it streams. Even worse, you're streaming in managed mode (ABR), which is less than half the speed of the quality-rated VBR modes. Michael

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Oct 31 09:03:18 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:03:18 +1100 Subject: [icecast] re endcoding syntatx ices2? In-Reply-To: <20021030161210.2964ba5d.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021031200318.431948a0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 04:12 PM 30/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >G'day, > doing a spot of reencoding on my 64k ogg files, trying to create a >stream for those poor sods who are still on dial up. The syntax below >works - gives me a 28k stream. Seems like the bitrate has little >effect on the reencoding. Anyone know all the commands I can use - >still no documentation for this ver2 of ices and icecast hey?

ices will select a bitrate as close as possible to that selected by the rest of the system, given the constraints imposed by the limitations inherent in the rest of the system (libvorbis specifically). Make sure you're configuring downsampling and channel downmixing to an appropriately low frequency (and single channel) if you want really low bitrates. Michael

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Thu Oct 31 11:32:06 2002 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 31 Oct 2002 06:32:06 -0500 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20021031200124.43190930@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: I've noticed with the cvs ices that the more memory which is leaked the higher the load average gets until just before all the ices processes get killed off by the kernel. During normal operations with three reencoding streams the average pretty much stays around .050 to 1.2. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Oct 31 12:42:25 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:42:25 +1100 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021031234225.424795b0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 06:32 AM 31/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I've noticed with the cvs ices that the more memory which is leaked >the higher the load average gets until just before all the ices >processes get killed off by the kernel. During normal operations with >three reencoding streams the average pretty much stays around .050 to >1.2. > I've had no reports of memory leaks or unreasonably-high cpu usage. Perhaps you want to give a complete, detailed, bug report? (bugs.xiph.org) Michael

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Thu Oct 31 13:13:34 2002 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 31 Oct 2002 08:13:34 -0500 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20021031234225.424795b0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: Well, actually you have from Geoff Shang. You stated at the time you would look into it after exams or the like. Geoff said he would post an official bug report but hasn't managed it yet. For the record: Using cvs ices2, libshout and icecast2 and can't remember what else but all cvs. Ices runs almost 24 hours before it leaks all the memory it can get and all the processes get killed off by the kernel as I mentioned in my last post. It is consistant and very reliable. This has been going on for about two weeks now and I've temporarily quit trying to keep egoplay going because it stops at least once a day. If I can give you anymore specific info let me know I will happily oblige. Come to think about it Geoff posted the syslog error messages here at the time he first mentioned it. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu Oct 31 15:28:21 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:28:21 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 31 Oct 2002, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Well, actually you have from Geoff Shang. http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/3367.html http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/3401.html > For the record: > Using cvs ices2, libshout and icecast2 and can't remember what else > but all cvs. Ices runs almost 24 hours before it leaks all the memory > it can get and all the processes get killed off by the kernel as I > mentioned in my last post. It is consistant and very reliable. Actually, one or more streams seem to die during cron.daily which runs at about 1Am local time, and it never reconnects the streams that die. The remaining streams die when the kernel kills off the processes at about 8:45 to 8:50. Geoff.

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu Oct 31 15:47:57 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:47:57 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Trouble compiling ices 0.2.3 Message-ID: Hi: I'm wanting to compile ices 0.2.3 in order to have a play with it. Since I'm doing this on a box that also has libshout2, I don't want libshout1 to be installed (I wish they both used the same lib). Anyway, configure was invoked as follows: ./configure --disable-shared --enable-static to try and achieve this. anyway, it runs quite happily, reporting nothing unexpected. When I try to make it, I get this: Making all in playlist make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/ices-0.2.3/src/playlist' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DICES_MODULEDIR=\"/usr/local/icecast/etc/modules\" -I../../src -I../../libshout -I/usr/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/include/libxml2 -g -O2 -Wall -c playlist.c In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:107, from playlist.c:22: ../../src/icestypes.h:34: parse error before `shout_conn_t' ../../src/icestypes.h:34: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union ../../src/icestypes.h:60: parse error before `}' ../../src/icestypes.h:60: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `ices_stream_t' ../../src/icestypes.h:60: warning: data definition has no type or storage class ../../src/icestypes.h:83: parse error before `ices_stream_t' ../../src/icestypes.h:83: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union ../../src/icestypes.h:85: parse error before `}' ../../src/icestypes.h:85: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `ices_config_t' ../../src/icestypes.h:85: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:109, from playlist.c:22: ../../src/setup.h:26: parse error before `*' In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:117, from playlist.c:22: ../../src/reencode.h:27: parse error before `*' ../../src/reencode.h:29: parse error before `*' In file included from ../../src/definitions.h:118, from playlist.c:22: ../../src/ices_config.h:22: parse error before `*' playlist.c:25: parse error before `ices_config' playlist.c:25: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `ices_config' playlist.c:25: warning: data definition has no type or storage class playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_get_current_lineno': playlist.c:36: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:37: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_get_next': playlist.c:48: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:49: warning: control reaches end of non-void function playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_get_metadata': playlist.c:56: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:57: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_initialize': playlist.c:70: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:72: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:74: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:74: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_reload': playlist.c:108: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c:109: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union playlist.c: In function `ices_playlist_shutdown': playlist.c:119: request for member `pm' in something not a structure or union make[3]: *** [playlist.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.2.3/src/playlist' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.2.3/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/ices-0.2.3' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 I'm no expert, but it looks like something is missing. Any ideas? I wish to evaluate ices for use in a project so this is kinda important. Geoff.

-- Geoff Shang ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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