From msmith at xiph.org Fri Nov 1 00:29:42 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:29:42 +1100 Subject: [icecast] ices - cpu cycles - re encodig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021101112942.4257a9b0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 01:28 AM 1/11/2002 +1000, you wrote: >On 31 Oct 2002, Kirk Reiser wrote: > >> Well, actually you have from Geoff Shang. > >http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/3367.html >http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/3401.html Please, report this in bugzilla. If you don't, this WILL NOT be looked at, and will almost certainly get completely forgotten (again). Michael

-----Original Message----- From: Ben Timby [mailto:btimby_indy at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [icecast] icecast + liveice won't play nicely

I have gotten icecast and live ice both up and running, but I cannot get them to play nicely together. I have the following in my configs: icecast: -- encoder_password test admin_password test oper_password test port 8000 port 8001 -- liveice: -- SERVER 192.168.1.2 PORT 8001 PASSWORD test #ICY_LOGIN X_AUDIOCAST_LOGIN -- but when I run both of them using: ./icecast ./liveice I get (from icecast): -> [06/Nov/2002:23:33:23] Kicking source 1 [192.168.1.2] [Bad Password] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. -1 sources connected am I missing something? Thanks in advance. Ben Timby __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From adam at xs4all.nl Thu Nov 7 14:00:48 2002 From: adam at xs4all.nl (adam) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:00:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [icecast] Open Source Streaming Tool Message-ID: Hi, I am really sorry for this psuedo-spam but I thought some on the list might be interested in this:

R A D I O Q U A L I A ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE LAUNCH OF: The Frequency Clock: Free Media System (public version 1.0 beta)

Software release at: http://frequencyclock.montevideo.nl General info: http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is a open source software system created to manage streaming audio and video channels. This unique set of software tools enables website producers to programme online 'channels' of audio or video for their websites, bringing televisual or radio-like experiences to their website. The Frequency Clock Free Media System is designed for people who work with streaming media material. It allows creators and users of streaming media to organise their files into dynamic channels which can be played back using a specially designed web-based streaming media player. For producers of online media, the Frequency Clock Free Media System is a powerful content management system, which provides sophisticated control over streaming data. Key features of the system include an inventive customised streaming media player, which can handle different file types, searchable archives, and real-time statistical analysis. The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is free and open source. It is created by r a d i o q u a l i a with the input of many developers, artists, designers and cultural practitioners, specifically with arts, cultural and independent broadcasting in mind. * WHAT DOES IT DO? The Frequency Clock Free Media System is a shared resource for building streaming channels. It features a programme database, timetabling system and a customised streaming media player:

* PLAYER Perhaps the most significant and innovative element of the system is the Frequency Clock Player. The Player addresses one of the key issues that producers of streaming media face - the range of different streaming media formats. Streaming media content can be produced in a variety of different proprietary formats - for example, WindowsMedia, Real, and Quicktime. When users play a streaming media file, it opens within a specific streaming media player. If you watch a WindowsMedia file, it opens in the WindowsMedia player, a Real file opens within the Real Player and so on. Users must open and close a number of players in order to view different streaming media formats. This can be disruptive to the continuity of the experience. The Frequency Clock Player is possibly one of the first streaming media players to be able to play back all streaming media file types, within the same player. This is an important innovation, which can provide for a seamless experience for users, despite the fact that channels may be comprised of many different file types. One of the other issues which arises when using streaming media, is that content usually has to be presented within the design context of the various commerical media players. For many users this is undesirable. The Frequency Clock Player provides a solution to this problem, by allowing significant elements of customisation. Producers have control over the Player's look and feel, enabling them to design their Player, so that it fits within the overall design of their website. You can see images of customised Players, by visiting: http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html * TIMETABLER The engine which drives the creation of streaming channels is a programme database and timetable generator. The programme database stores information about live and pre-recorded streaming audio or video programmes. It is essentially a database for managing meta-data (information and links to programmes, rather than the programmes themselves), and can organise information about files stored anywhere on the internet. The timetabling system is a tool for placing entries from the database into a schedule. Users can timetable audio or video programmes from the database into specific time slots within their schedule, creating a continuous and ongoing channel, or alternatively, a channel which broadcasts only at special times. Producers can also instruct the timetabling system to play 'default' audio or video, when a time slot has nothing scheduled. This means that audiences will always have something to see or hear when visiting a channel. For further information on the functionality of The Frequency Clock: Free Media System, please visit: http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html

* STATISTICS The Frequency Clock: Free Media System also contains an effective statistical analysis system. Producers can receive real time updates of the number of users connected, how long they've been connected, from which country they are connecting from, and what operating system and streaming media software they are running. Usually this information can only be supplied from server logs, which are not usually available to producers in real time. This kind of statistical monitoring allows producers to get immediate feedback about their channels, and adjust programming accordingly. * BACKGROUND The Frequency Clock Free Media System is part of a larger ongoing project called The Frequency Clock by the online art group, r a d i o q u a l i a . The project began as an artwork which created ways for net.based audio and video files to be experienced within traditional broadcast mediums such as radio and television. In order to make this process possible, it was necessary to develop reliable interactive software which allowed users to construct of timetables of live and archived streaming media content, and a mechanism which could play back these timetables. Four years of research, conceptual and pragmatic experimentation, and shared code development has resulted in the Frequency Clock: Free Media System. For more information about The Frequency Clock, visit: http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freqclock/central.html

* WHO IS IT FOR? The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is aimed at cultural producers of audio and video, who wish to present their material online. Existing or past users of the system include: community radio stations, community cable television operators, film and video organisations, museums and galleries, filmmakers and documentary-makers, artists, DJs and musicians. The system could also be utilised by independent news broadcasters, film festivals, conferences and any other developers of cultural content. The Frequency Clock: Free Media System would also be useful for any organisation or individual who uses streaming media for presenting or archiving events, such as conferences, meetings, briefings, workshops, festivals, film productions, or streaming files such as music videos, short films, animations, workshop footage, performances etc. What the users of The Frequency Clock: Free Media System say: "its an excellent concept thats going to play a big part in the near future of streaming / audio/video" "i really hope it will make life easier and even more interesting to number of people, the creators of streming content - and somehow - i don't doubt it will." "The Arts Online: More Often More Better Open Platform for the Arts FQ: Streaming the Real World to You" "I see great potential in the frequency clock. a self-subscribed multi channel programming [environment]. in a communal sense, it also allows intervention to happen." There are other Frequency Clock systems implemented at: - Dekspc: http://bigboy.spc.org/fc/index.php - MN Artists: http://fc.mnartists.org

* CREDITS The Frequency Clock: Free Media System was made possible by: - The Netherlands Media Art Institute, Montevideo/Time Based Arts - The Walker Art Centre / MN Artists - The Australian Federal Government through its arts funding and advisory body, the Australia Council - Kunstradio - Virtual Artists r a d i o q u a l i a would also like to thank: Robert Geus, Nic Limper, The Society for Old and New Media, James Stevens, Luka Princic, Vedran Gulin / mi2, Micz Flor, Radio FRO, Mauzz / De Digital Stadt, The World Service, The South Australian Government through Arts SA, The Experimental Art Foundation, the Australian Network for Art and Technology, the Media Resource Centre, Kass Schmitt, Rene Leitof, Alex Galloway, Gio D'Angelo, Luka Frelih, Salto TV and Source Forge & Xchange.

* MORE INFORMATION If you would like more information about The Frequency Clock: Free Media System, please contact: r a d i o q u a l i a Adam Hyde or Honor Harger PH: + 31 6 29036248 Email: radioqualia at va.com.au or adam at xs4all.nl URL: http://www.radioqualia.net

__________________________________________ r a d i o q u a l i a

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On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:21, Ben Timby wrote: > I have gotten icecast and live ice both up and > running, but I cannot get them to play nicely > together. I have the following in my configs: > > icecast: > -- > encoder_password test > admin_password test > oper_password test > port 8000 > port 8001 > -- > > liveice: > -- > SERVER 192.168.1.2 > PORT 8001 > PASSWORD test > #ICY_LOGIN > X_AUDIOCAST_LOGIN > -- > > but when I run both of them using: > > ./icecast > ./liveice > > I get (from icecast): > -> [06/Nov/2002:23:33:23] Kicking source 1 > [192.168.1.2] [Bad Password] [encoder], connected for > 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. -1 sources connected > > am I missing something? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ben Timby > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos > http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- /-----------------------------\__/--------------------------------\ | Kerry J. Cox __ kerry.cox at ksl.com | | KSL System Administrator | | p: 801.575.7771 | | http://www.ksl.com/ |__| f: 801.575.5745 | | GPG Key: __ http://quasi.ksl.com/kerry.asc | \-----------------------------/ \--------------------------------/

-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 233 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From maffle at earthlink.net Thu Nov 7 15:24:41 2002 From: maffle at earthlink.net (Michael Afflerbach) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:24:41 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast + liveice won't play nicely In-Reply-To: <1036682535.13797.215.camel@quasi.ksl.com> Message-ID: <001f01c28671$cbce3330$2301a8c0@keyser> Kerry. I would like to get a copy of this document which you speak of. I have had generic trouble in getting livice properly installed and think that would do the trick... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Cox" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] icecast + liveice won't play nicely

Thanks

Leo.

On Thursday 07 November 2002 01:12 pm, Leo Currie wrote: > Hi - > Sorry if this has been answered - i've been away from this list for a few > months. > Just got IceS 2 and Icecast 2 setup and running :) > Looking at the sample ices-playlist.xml, it seems only the basic playlist > type is implemented. Looking at the source, however, (and this is a bad > idea I'm sure, because I am a novice programmer:) there seems to be some > reference to a scripted playlist. > If there is indeed some support (however limited) can anyone give > hints/tips for making it do something? > > Specifically, can I write a Perl script to generate the 'next' file I want > Ices2 to play? > > > Thanks > > > Leo. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

Leo

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Manuel Lora wrote: > > Yes. It runs a script which returns a file to stream. > > http://www.6809.org.uk/kja3/ices2-howto.shtml#config-input-playlist-script > > ml > > > On Thursday 07 November 2002 01:12 pm, Leo Currie wrote: > > Hi - > > Sorry if this has been answered - i've been away from this list for a few > > months. > > Just got IceS 2 and Icecast 2 setup and running :) > > Looking at the sample ices-playlist.xml, it seems only the basic playlist > > type is implemented. Looking at the source, however, (and this is a bad > > idea I'm sure, because I am a novice programmer:) there seems to be some > > reference to a scripted playlist. > > If there is indeed some support (however limited) can anyone give > > hints/tips for making it do something? > > > > Specifically, can I write a Perl script to generate the 'next' file I want > > Ices2 to play? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vanguardist at cox.net Thu Nov 7 19:42:38 2002 From: vanguardist at cox.net (Manuel Lora) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:42:38 -0600 Subject: [icecast] New documentation project for Icecast/Ices Message-ID: <200211071342.38713.vanguardist@cox.net> Hello. I'm looking for volunteers to help Michael Smith document Icecast and Ices (msmith at xiph.org). There has been some work done so far (http://www.6809.org.uk/kja3/ices2-howto.shtml) but could be better formalized for packaged distribution. If anyone is interested, please feel free to email me at vanguardist at xiph.org Thank you, Manuel Lora Project Manager Xiph.org Foundation --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Thu Nov 7 21:11:51 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:11:51 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Open Source Streaming Tool In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021107141151.5ef37669.richard@freespeech.org> Kool, l ooks like just the thing to schedule programs to be played at certain times. Any here used this pup?

R On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:00:48 +0100 (CET) adam wrote: > Hi, > > I am really sorry for this psuedo-spam but I thought some on the > list might be interested in this: > > > > R A D I O Q U A L I A ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE LAUNCH OF: > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System > (public version 1.0 beta) > > > Software release at: http://frequencyclock.montevideo.nl > General info: http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is a open source software > system created to manage streaming audio and video channels. > This unique set of software tools enables website producers to > programme online 'channels' of audio or video for their websites, > bringing televisual > or radio-like experiences to their website. > > The Frequency Clock Free Media System is designed for people who > work with streaming media material. It allows creators and users of > streaming media to organise their files into dynamic channels which > can be played back using a specially designed web-based streaming > media player. > > For producers of online media, the Frequency Clock Free Media System > is a powerful content management system, which provides > sophisticated control over streaming data. Key features of the > system include an inventive customised streaming media player, which > can handle different file types, searchable archives, and real-time > statistical analysis. > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is free and open source. It > is created by r a d i o q u a l i a > with the input of many developers, artists, designers and cultural > practitioners, specifically with arts, cultural and independent > broadcasting in mind. > > * WHAT DOES IT DO? > > The Frequency Clock Free Media System is a shared resource for > building streaming channels. It features a programme database, > timetabling system and a customised streaming media player: > > > * PLAYER > > Perhaps the most significant and innovative element of the system is > the Frequency Clock Player. The Player addresses one of the key > issues that producers of streaming media face - the range of > different streaming media formats. Streaming media content can be > produced in a variety of different proprietary formats - for > example, WindowsMedia, Real, and Quicktime. When users play a > streaming media file, it opens within a specific streaming media > player. If you watch a WindowsMedia file, it opens in the > WindowsMedia player, a Real file opens within the Real Player and so > on. Users must open and close a number of players in order to view > different streaming media formats. This can be disruptive to the > continuity of the experience. > The Frequency Clock Player is possibly one of the first streaming > media players to be able to play back all streaming media file > types, within the same player. This is an important innovation, > which can provide for a seamless experience for users, despite the > fact that channels may be comprised of many different file types. > > One of the other issues which arises when using streaming media, is > that content usually has to be presented within the design context > of the various commerical media players. For many users this is > undesirable. The Frequency Clock Player provides a solution to this > problem, by allowing significant elements of customisation. > Producers have control over the Player's look and feel, enabling > them to design their Player, so that it fits within the overall > design of their website. > > You can see images of customised Players, by visiting: > http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html > > * TIMETABLER > > The engine which drives the creation of streaming channels is a > programme database and timetable generator. The programme database > stores information > about live and pre-recorded streaming audio or video programmes. It > is essentially a database for managing meta-data (information and > links to programmes, rather than the programmes themselves), and can > organise information about files stored anywhere on the internet. > > The timetabling system is a tool for placing entries from the > database into > a schedule. Users can timetable audio or video programmes from the > database > into specific time slots within their schedule, creating a > continuous and ongoing channel, or alternatively, a channel which > broadcasts only at special times. Producers can also instruct the > timetabling system to play'default' audio or video, when a time slot > has nothing scheduled. This means that audiences will always have > something to see or hear when visiting a channel. > > For further information on the functionality of The Frequency Clock: > Free Media System, please visit: > http://www.frequencyclock.net/index2.html > > > * STATISTICS > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System also contains an effective > statistical analysis system. Producers can receive real time updates > of the > number of users connected, how long they've been connected, from > which country they are connecting from, and what operating system > and streaming media software they are running. Usually this > information can only be supplied from server logs, which are not > usually available to producers in real time. This kind of > statistical monitoring allows producers to get immediate feedback > about their channels, and adjust programming accordingly. > > * BACKGROUND > > The Frequency Clock Free Media System is part of a larger ongoing > project called The Frequency Clock by the online art group, r a d i > o q u a l i a. The project began as an > artwork which created > ways for net.based audio and video files to be experienced within > traditional broadcast mediums such as radio and television. > > In order to make this process possible, it was necessary to develop > reliable interactive software which allowed users to construct of > timetables of live and archived streaming media content, and a > mechanism which could play back these timetables. Four years of > research, conceptual and pragmatic experimentation, and shared code > development has resulted in the Frequency Clock: Free Media System. > > For more information about The Frequency Clock, visit: > http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freqclock/central.html > > > * WHO IS IT FOR? > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System is aimed at cultural > producers of audio and video, who wish to present their material > online. Existing or past users of the system include: community > radio stations, community cable > television operators, film and video organisations, museums and > galleries, filmmakers and documentary-makers, artists, DJs and > musicians. > > The system could also be utilised by independent news broadcasters, > film festivals, conferences and any other developers of cultural > content. > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System would also be useful for any > organisation or individual who uses streaming media for presenting > or archiving events, such as conferences, meetings, briefings, > workshops, festivals, film productions, or streaming files such as > music videos, short > films, animations, workshop footage, performances etc. > > What the users of The Frequency Clock: Free Media System say: > > "its an excellent concept thats going to play a big part in the near > future > of streaming / audio/video" > > "i really hope it will make life easier and even more interesting to > number > of people, the creators of streming content - and somehow - i don't > doubt it will." > > "The Arts Online: More Often More Better > Open Platform for the Arts > FQ: Streaming the Real World to You" > > "I see great potential in the frequency clock. a self-subscribed > multi channel programming [environment]. in a communal sense, it > also allows intervention to happen." > > There are other Frequency Clock systems implemented at: > - Dekspc: http://bigboy.spc.org/fc/index.php > - MN Artists: http://fc.mnartists.org > > > * CREDITS > > The Frequency Clock: Free Media System was made possible by: > - The Netherlands Media Art Institute, Montevideo/Time Based Arts > - The Walker Art Centre / MN Artists > - The Australian Federal Government through its arts funding and > advisory body, the Australia Council > - Kunstradio > - Virtual Artists > > r a d i o q u a l i a would also like to thank: Robert Geus, Nic > Limper, The Society for Old and New Media, James Stevens, Luka > Princic, Vedran Gulin / mi2, Micz Flor, Radio FRO, Mauzz / De > Digital Stadt, The World Service, The South Australian Government > through Arts SA, The Experimental Art Foundation, the Australian > Network for Art and Technology, the Media Resource Centre, Kass > Schmitt, Rene Leitof, Alex Galloway, Gio D'Angelo, Luka Frelih, > Salto TV and Source Forge & Xchange. > > > * MORE INFORMATION > > If you would like more information about The Frequency Clock: Free > Media System, please contact: > > r a d i o q u a l i a > Adam Hyde or Honor Harger > > PH: + 31 6 29036248 > Email: radioqualia at va.com.au or adam at xs4all.nl > URL: http://www.radioqualia.net > > > __________________________________________ > > r a d i o q u a l i a > > > ((o)) > > f r e q u e n c y s h i f t i n g p a r a d i g m s > i n s t r e a m i n g a u d i o > > in residence at makrolab > http://www.radioqualia.net/makrolab/ > > > radioqualia at va.com.au > http://www.radioqualia.va.com.au/ > > > supported by virtual artists (VA) > http://www.va.com.au > > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered.

Regards Richard ------------------------------------------ .' `. |a_a| Richard at Jacana.Net \ V / Phone: 303.931.1414 /( )\ Fax: 309.422.5703 |\`> < /\ \_|=='|_/ ------------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Thu Nov 7 23:19:30 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:19:30 +1100 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: <9BCA51B8-F266-11D6-A26D-0030659A02BA@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021108101930.426915c0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 10:35 AM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >im resetting up a server for a college radio station and for the new >box we got a decent processor and maxed out the RAM so in addition to >the 2 live encoded streams i want to add 2 prerecorded stream, 1 with >bands that have played live on the air and one of public affairs show, >and i was wondering if darkice and shout will play together nice on a >freeBSD box... > hout will not work reliably on any system, with or without other programs running. It's deprecated because it doesn't work very well. Don't use it. Michael

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bikepunx at bellatlantic.net Fri Nov 8 02:36:16 2002 From: bikepunx at bellatlantic.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:36:16 -0500 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20021108101930.426915c0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: ok then what runs reliably on a freeBSD system? ices? On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > At 10:35 AM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> im resetting up a server for a college radio station and for the new >> box we got a decent processor and maxed out the RAM so in addition to >> the 2 live encoded streams i want to add 2 prerecorded stream, 1 with >> bands that have played live on the air and one of public affairs show, >> and i was wondering if darkice and shout will play together nice on a >> freeBSD box... >> > > shout will not work reliably on any system, with or without other > programs running. It's deprecated because it doesn't work very well. > Don't use it. > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Fri Nov 8 02:40:43 2002 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:40:43 -0800 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021107184043.C77708@lns.com> Mixice (www.lns.com/papers/mixice) does. I have it running on FreeBSD 4.x machines for KKSF, KPFA, KFCF, etc. for a live MP3 stream (icecast 1.x.x). I will have an OGG version of it soon as we have some demand for better quality streams. Tim On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:36:16PM -0500, Jim wrote: > ok then what runs reliably on a freeBSD system? ices? > > On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > > At 10:35 AM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >> im resetting up a server for a college radio station and for the new > >> box we got a decent processor and maxed out the RAM so in addition to > >> the 2 live encoded streams i want to add 2 prerecorded stream, 1 with > >> bands that have played live on the air and one of public affairs show, > >> and i was wondering if darkice and shout will play together nice on a > >> freeBSD box... > >> > > > > shout will not work reliably on any system, with or without other > > programs running. It's deprecated because it doesn't work very well. > > Don't use it. > > > > Michael -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "A mass in movement resists change of direction. So does the world oppose a new idea. It takes time to make up the minds to its value and importance. Ignorance, prejudice and inertia of the old retard its early progress. It is discredited by insincere exponents and selfish exploiters. It is attacked and condemned by its enemies. Eventually, though, all barriers are thrown down, and it spreads like fire. This will also prove true of the wireless art." - Nikola Tesla in 1908 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bikepunx at bellatlantic.net Fri Nov 8 03:00:45 2002 From: bikepunx at bellatlantic.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:00:45 -0500 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: <20021107184043.C77708@lns.com> Message-ID: <469B71C9-F2C6-11D6-A39D-0030659A02BA@bellatlantic.net> darkice is doing my live encoding, both hifi and lofi i just need something to stream audio files i have on disc... On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 09:40 PM, Tim Pozar wrote: > Mixice (www.lns.com/papers/mixice) does. I have it running on > FreeBSD 4.x machines for KKSF, KPFA, KFCF, etc. for a live MP3 > stream (icecast 1.x.x). I will have an OGG version of it soon as > we have some demand for better quality streams. > > Tim > > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:36:16PM -0500, Jim wrote: >> ok then what runs reliably on a freeBSD system? ices? >> >> On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 06:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote: >>> At 10:35 AM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>>> im resetting up a server for a college radio station and for the new >>>> box we got a decent processor and maxed out the RAM so in addition >>>> to >>>> the 2 live encoded streams i want to add 2 prerecorded stream, 1 >>>> with >>>> bands that have played live on the air and one of public affairs >>>> show, >>>> and i was wondering if darkice and shout will play together nice on >>>> a >>>> freeBSD box... >>>> >>> >>> shout will not work reliably on any system, with or without other >>> programs running. It's deprecated because it doesn't work very well. >>> Don't use it. >>> >>> Michael > > -- > Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA > POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 > "A mass in movement resists change of direction. So does the world > oppose a new idea. It takes time to make up the minds to its value > and importance. Ignorance, prejudice and inertia of the old retard > its early progress. It is discredited by insincere exponents and > selfish exploiters. It is attacked and condemned by its enemies. > Eventually, though, all barriers are thrown down, and it spreads > like fire. This will also prove true of the wireless art." > - Nikola Tesla in 1908 > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Fri Nov 8 06:36:12 2002 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:36:12 +0100 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: <469B71C9-F2C6-11D6-A39D-0030659A02BA@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <3DCB5B5C.5050601@tyrell.hu> Jim wrote: > darkice is doing my live encoding, both hifi and lofi i just need > something to stream audio files i have on disc... you can use your favourite web server for streaming files... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Fri Nov 8 07:35:10 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:35:10 +1100 Subject: [icecast] do darkice and shout play together well In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021108183510.4315d540@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 09:36 PM 7/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >ok then what runs reliably on a freeBSD system? ices? ices should, yes. Michael

--- Michael Smith wrote: > At 08:21 PM 6/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >I have gotten icecast and live ice both up and > >running, but I cannot get them to play nicely > >together. I have the following in my configs: > > > > You've probably configured/installed icecast with > crypted password support. > Don't do that. > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. > No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From btimby_indy at yahoo.com Sat Nov 9 18:26:31 2002 From: btimby_indy at yahoo.com (Ben Timby) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:26:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice will still not connect. In-Reply-To: <20021109175914.26117.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20021109182631.44278.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> I recompiled both icecast and liveice (definately without the crypt option this time). I opened the default configs, and modified nothing but passwords. I get the following from icecast when I run liveice. What could I be doing wrong? -> [09/Nov/2002:13:38:58] Kicking source 1 [localhost] [Bad Password] [encoder], connected for 0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. -1 sources connected -> [09/Nov/2002:13:38:58] Kicking all 0 clients for source 1 this time the msg is different, before it did not even connection and no clients were kicked. Ben Timby. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dmd at speakeasy.org Sat Nov 9 23:39:31 2002 From: dmd at speakeasy.org (David M Dennis) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:39:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] compiling ices on solaris 9 / sparc Message-ID: Hello, Perhaps foolishly I am trying to migrate my icecast 1.3.12 / ices 0.2.3 / LAME-3.92 from linux to solaris on sparc. icecast and LAME compiled, but when I tried to get ices to build the following occurred. I tried to confirm all needed libs, but must have not found something. Any help appreciated! Thanks... error follows. -Dave D $ make make all-recursive Making all in libshout make all-recursive Making all in doc Making all in src Making all in playlist /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o ices ices.o log.o setup.o stream.o util.o mp3.o cue.o metadata.o id3.o signals.o reencode.o ices_config.o playlist/libplaylist.a ../libshout/libices.la -lnsl -lmp3lame -R /usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE /usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -L/usr/lib -R/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lm gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o ices ices.o log.o setup.o stream.o util.o mp3.o cue.o metadata.o id3.o signals.o reencode.o ices_config.o playlist/libplaylist.a ../libshout/.libs/libices.al /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so /usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -ldl -lc -L/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lsocket -lnsl -lm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -R/usr/lib Undefined first referenced symbol in file inet_aton ../libshout/.libs/libices.al(sock.lo) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to ices collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ices' Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3/src *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3/src *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive-am'

+------------------------- + Dave Dennis + Seattle, WA + dmd at speakeasy.org + http://www.dmdennis.com +------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Nov 10 00:17:28 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:17:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] icecast + liveice won't play nicely In-Reply-To: <20021109175914.26117.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Ben Timby wrote: > bash-2.05a$ tar fxz icecast-1.3.12.tar.gz > > gzip: stdin: not in gzip format > tar: child returned status 1 The problem is the order of the options. The -f switch specifies the file to use, so it should be last. Because it's not, tar is looking for the file on standard input instead. Geoff.

On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0800 Raymond wrote: > Hello: > > I went to the archives of xiph and searched for ogg. I read through > about a hundred messages that are archived and still can't tell > whether icecast will stream ogg. Does anyone know what streaming > server I should set up to stream ogg/vorbis format (on a Linux OS)? > > Raymond > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Sun Nov 10 08:00:36 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:00:36 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re [ogg] In-Reply-To: <20021110005539.735247d6.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3DCE1224.8090305@tecwise.com> Hey Thanks: Raymond Richard wrote: >Yes the documentation is pretty spare but in answer to your question - >yes icecast will stream ogg. Download icecast2 and ices2 (the >streamer) and off you go! > >See -- the guide on www.xiph.org/cvs.html > >My personal notes: > >cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot login >type pass>>anoncvs >cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot -z 9 co icecast >(or ogg or ices) > >cd icecast (or ogg or ices) >./autogen.sh > >./configure >make >make install ># use gmake on *BSD > > > > > >On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0800 >Raymond wrote: > > > >>Hello: >> >>I went to the archives of xiph and searched for ogg. I read through >>about a hundred messages that are archived and still can't tell >>whether icecast will stream ogg. Does anyone know what streaming >>server I should set up to stream ogg/vorbis format (on a Linux OS)? >> >>Raymond >> >>--- >8 ---- >>List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in >>the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the >>list will be ignored/filtered. >> >> >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > >

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No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rsteding at tecwise.com Sun Nov 10 08:29:57 2002 From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:29:57 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Slava Shklyar In-Reply-To: <20021110012623.2887e1c6.richard@freespeech.org> Message-ID: <3DCE1905.3070605@tecwise.com> Yes please get rid of the user Slava Shklyar. There is something critically wrong with their emails. Raymond --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Sun Nov 10 08:38:49 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:38:49 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Slava Shklyar In-Reply-To: <3DCE1905.3070605@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <003601c28894$9a137920$6401a8c0@anaconda1> ah, i banned his ass from our network a few weeks ago, same spew..

Best Regards Dave St. John Mediacast1 Administration (720-641-7586) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond" To: Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] Slava Shklyar

> Yes please get rid of the user Slava Shklyar. There is something > critically wrong with their emails. > > Raymond > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From richard at freespeech.org Sun Nov 10 08:45:34 2002 From: richard at freespeech.org (Richard) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:45:34 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Slava Shklyar spammer In-Reply-To: <003601c28894$9a137920$6401a8c0@anaconda1> Message-ID: <20021110014534.1c41e14f.richard@freespeech.org> Here is his ISP's info - he's in Israel: Lets contact his ISP ??? % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % Please visit http://www.ripe.net/rpsl for more information. inetnum: 212.150.46.0 - 212.150.49.255 netname: BARAK-3 descr: Barak WAN Connection country: IL admin-c: AD1327-RIPE tech-c: IM460-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: dbenjamin at barak.net.il 20000706 source: RIPE person: Assaf Dahary address: Barak I.T.C address: 15 Hmelacha St Rosh Ha'ayin address: Israel 48091 phone: + 972 3 9001097 fax-no: + 972 3 9001090 e-mail: hostmaster at barak.net.il nic-hdl: AD1327-RIPE notify: omilitanu at barak.net.il changed: adahary at barakitc.co.il 19981006 changed: hostmaster at barak.net.il 20010726 source: RIPE person: Ilan Mishali address: Barak I.T.C address: Hamelacha 15 address: Rosh Ha'ayin, 48091 address: Israel phone: +972 3 9001113 fax-no: +972 3 9001515 e-mail: imishali at barakitc.co.il nic-hdl: IM460-RIPE notify: adahary at barakitc.co.il changed: hostmaster at ripe.net 19980901 source: RIPE Contact Address: Tech Phone Ltd Hagaton st. 44 Nahariya Israel Tel: +972-4-9522220 Fax +972-4-9511444 Mail: P.O.Box 1127 Nahariya Israel E mail: info at techphone.co.il

> > Yes please get rid of the user Slava Shklyar. There is something > > critically wrong with their emails. > > > > Raymond > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > > needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be > > ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the > list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Nov 10 09:04:20 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:04:20 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Slava Shklyar In-Reply-To: <3DCE1905.3070605@tecwise.com> Message-ID: Hi: An immediate fix would be to unsubscribe him from icecast. At least then us here won't be bothered by him. Geoff.

-- Geoff Shang ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Richard wrote: >Yes the documentation is pretty spare but in answer to your question - >yes icecast will stream ogg. Download icecast2 and ices2 (the >streamer) and off you go! > >See -- the guide on www.xiph.org/cvs.html > >My personal notes: > >cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot login >type pass>>anoncvs >cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot -z 9 co icecast >(or ogg or ices) > >cd icecast (or ogg or ices) >./autogen.sh > >./configure >make >make install ># use gmake on *BSD > > > > > >On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0800 >Raymond wrote: > > > >>Hello: >> >>I went to the archives of xiph and searched for ogg. I read through >>about a hundred messages that are archived and still can't tell >>whether icecast will stream ogg. Does anyone know what streaming >>server I should set up to stream ogg/vorbis format (on a Linux OS)? >> >>Raymond >> >>--- >8 ---- >>List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in >>the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the >>list will be ignored/filtered. >> >> >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > >

Michael Smith wrote: >At 02:13 AM 10/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >>I get the following message: >>configure: error: xslt-config could not be found >> >> > >You need the development package for libxslt. > > > >>When I did the cvs it stopped at: >>U timing/timing.h >> >> > >You're using a buggy version of cvs. Either upgrade, or don't use -z. > > > >>Should I have waited for a like really long time for something to update >>during the cvs download? >> >>Also I assume: >> >>cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs at xiph.org:/usr/local/cvsroot -z 9 co icecast >> >>is the icecast2 server? >> >> > >That's correct. > >Michael > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > >

Ben Timby Kopie: Gesendet von: Thema: Re: [icecast] icecast + liveice won't play nicely owner-icecast @xiph.org 11.09.02 06:59 PM Bitte antworten an icecast

Michael, I think you are right. However, I cannot successfully download and install icecast from icecast.org. When I do so, gzip complains: -- bash-2.05a$ tar fxz icecast-1.3.12.tar.gz gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: child returned status 1 -- Is the distro corrupt? or am I missing something? Is there a way to generate the crypted passwords? I could not get makepasswd.c to compile as it needs libs from the distro. Help! Ben Timby.

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Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Tue Nov 12 10:37:22 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:37:22 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Re [ogg] In-Reply-To: <3DD0CB24.8030906@lpbn.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021112213722.42700a00@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 01:34 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: >The default config file for icecast2 contains no mountpoints. What does >the xml code look like to create a mountpoint? A source client creates a mountpoint at the path specified in a SOURCE request. So the mountpoints are defined by the source, not by icecast (which just managed them and sends the data to the clients) Michael

Just came in this morning and it is sitting there using 98.5% cpu and 47.6% memory. So yes - memory usage goes up as well. My playlist is 'clean' of mp3's now, so it's something else.. Strange thing though - I'm using 2 instances in my config file (2 different bitrates, same playlist), and it's only one mountpoint that has gone - there other is still running fine. > It's a very nasty bug, but only occurs if the connection to icecast > terminates unexpectedly, eg ctrl-C icecast or if the time on the ices > machine changes significantly. Try the attached patches if that's > the issue. Well, Icecast is still running, and my clock is on time - how significant a change do you mean? Thanks for the help - I'll try those patches anyway! Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at pts.tele2.co.uk Tue Nov 12 12:28:30 2002 From: karl at pts.tele2.co.uk (Karl Heyes) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:28:30 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Freedomaudio player In-Reply-To: <3DD0EB7C.80304@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20021112122830.GI806@bogus.hackers.club> On 2002.11.12 11:52 Leo Currie wrote: > Karl Heyes wrote: > Just came in this morning and it is sitting there using 98.5% cpu and > 47.6% memory. So yes - memory usage goes up as well. My playlist is > 'clean' of mp3's now, so it's something else.. Yes, it's a case of normal running is fine, but on some network error one or more threads go into busy loop not emptying it's queue. > Strange thing though - I'm using 2 instances in my config file (2 > different bitrates, same playlist), and it's only one mountpoint that has > gone - there other is still running fine. That can happen, usually there is some fluctuation and depending on the tollerance that can stuff the just one or even all the streams. A lower bandwidth stream won't sent as much data for instance. >> It's a very nasty bug, but only occurs if the connection to icecast >> terminates unexpectedly, eg ctrl-C icecast or if the time on the ices >> machine changes significantly. Try the attached patches if that's >> the issue. > > Well, Icecast is still running, and my clock is on time - how significant > a change do you mean? Well assuming a pure clock change, a change of 10 secs could cause an extended sleep period in which icecast could drop the connection. In this case increasing the source-timeout is not the right solution as a 10 second gap in audio streaming is really bad! A simple log message could help track those type of problems. If the sleep is over say 2 seconds then show warning. hmmm patch brewing!!. > Thanks for the help - I'll try those patches anyway! The send_raw one fixes the busy loop problem, and the ices patch prevents excessive memory usage and few seg vaults that had shown up. karl. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Tue Nov 12 13:46:56 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:46:56 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Freedomaudio player In-Reply-To: <3DCF97B1.7010901@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Leo Currie wrote: > Has anyone tried making Liveice feed output to Ices2 for Ogg encoding? > Or is there an easier way of doing it? There's an easier way of doing it. Check the ices-live.xml file in the conf dir of the ices source tree. Geoff.

Michael Smith wrote: >At 12:35 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >>I have ices2 working. >> >>How about creating a link on a webpage and then having a person go to it >>with their browser and clicking on the link and then having the player >>automatically open the file at the beginning...is this possible? >> >> > >icecast2 will automatically generate a playlist for you containing >a single entry (pointing at your stream), if you want. >If your stream has mountpoint /stream.ogg, then go to > http://localhost:8000/stream.ogg.m3u >(obviously, replace localhost with your actual hostname, and change the >port if required). >In a webpage, you can give that URL as a link, your web browser will >then launch the player and the player will play the stream. > >Michael > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > >

On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:42, Raymond wrote: > Ok the link works. I have a thousand files. Do I have to create a > thousand mount points or is there a better way? > > > Michael Smith wrote: > > >At 12:35 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > >>I have ices2 working. > >> > >>How about creating a link on a webpage and then having a person go to it > >>with their browser and clicking on the link and then having the player > >>automatically open the file at the beginning...is this possible? > >> > >> > > > >icecast2 will automatically generate a playlist for you containing > >a single entry (pointing at your stream), if you want. > >If your stream has mountpoint /stream.ogg, then go to > > http://localhost:8000/stream.ogg.m3u > >(obviously, replace localhost with your actual hostname, and change the > >port if required). > >In a webpage, you can give that URL as a link, your web browser will > >then launch the player and the player will play the stream. > > > >Michael > > > > > >--- >8 ---- > >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

> Hi: > > If you're just wanting to serve static files then the fileserve function of > icecast will probably serve you better. But yes, you would have to make a > thousand files. Probably better to write some kind of script to push a > .m3u or .pls file generated from the filename passed as a parameter. At > least then you wouldn't have lots of tiny m3u files all over the place. > > Geoff. > > > -- > Geoff Shang > ICQ number 43634701 > > Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! > http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at xiph.org Wed Nov 13 00:39:08 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:39:08 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Re [ogg] In-Reply-To: <3DD12F8A.8000706@tecwise.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021113113908.426037c0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 08:42 AM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Ok the link works. I have a thousand files. Do I have to create a >thousand mount points or is there a better way? > If you just want to make static files available for playing individually, you should use a web server such as apache instead. Michael

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On Wednesday 13 November 2002 02:26 am, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi: > > AFAIK, there are no unix docs for icecast2. You know the drill - code it > first, document it later. Remember, this is still in pre-release state. > Having said that, the icecast.xml file shows all available tags (I think). > > Geoff. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

Sorry this is such a newbie question but i'm not sure if I applied the patch correctly: Suppose my current directory is where i put the files from cvs, so i have a sub-directory called ices, and one called libshout. I also have those patches in this directory. Do i just do: 'patch -p4 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at pts.tele2.co.uk Wed Nov 13 20:46:36 2002 From: karl at pts.tele2.co.uk (Karl Heyes) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:46:36 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Freedomaudio player In-Reply-To: <3DD2B357.2080904@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20021113204636.GC1222@bogus.hackers.club> On 2002.11.13 20:17 Leo Currie wrote: > Hmm. Well, it ran fine again for 14+ hours, but then - blammo. > I got nothing from my ices log (stupid stupid me had loglevel set to only > 3..) > but icecast said: "Disconnecting source due to socket read error: Broken > pipe" > I have put debug logging on, so I'll wait and see. broken pipe messages are typical of the other end closing the connection. As to whats happening in this case it's hard to say at the moment. If icecast is reporting this, check the ices.log as well. I've attached a patch that will log a warning if the sleep is over 2 secs which indicates something is really wrong. It doesn't change any functionality but will help identification in certain cases. > Sorry this is such a newbie question but i'm not sure if I applied the > patch correctly: > Suppose my current directory is where i put the files from cvs, so i have > a sub-directory called ices, and one called libshout. I also have those > patches in this directory. > Do i just do: 'patch -p4 From msmith at xiph.org Thu Nov 14 01:10:18 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:10:18 +1100 Subject: [icecast] installing ices2 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20021113084508.C28923-100000@typhoon.enabled.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021114121018.431f9aa0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 08:45 AM 13/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Any ideas please. I want to get this installed! > >I have the Latest CVS download! > >okay I am having some difficulty getting ices2 installed on freebsd > >this happens during execution of autogen.sh > >--- snip --- > >checking whether ln -s works... yes >loading cache /dev/null within ltconfig >ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify' >Try `ltconfig --help' for more information. >configure: error: libtool configure failed You'll have to ask an autoconf/libtool expert, I don't think there are any on the list. Patches are welcome. Michael

Michael Smith wrote: >At 10:35 PM 12/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >>Thanks that is what I was thinking I would do. And judging from Michaels >>reply there likely is no static file function built into icecast2 yet. >> >> > >There is. > Could you tell me how to use it? >But only because people complained. I personally don't use it, >other than when testing it - I use a web server when web serving is what >I want to do. > >Michael > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > >

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Fri Nov 15 14:30:41 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 00:30:41 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Re [ogg] In-Reply-To: <3DD4CB24.793FCA6C@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Moritz Grimm wrote: > And yes, Icecast's 'stream' is also just a > 'download'. Even when you connect to an ices2-served mountpoint, it's > nothing else than a slow, theoretically unlimited download by your > player that instantly plays what it gets. It's never been different. The only difference is that ices takes care to keep the stream at a constant rate, more or less. > What did Icecast1 do different? I think icecast1 allowed you to get it to generate the pls or m3u file itself rather than you doing it yourself. I think that's all though. Geoff.

Thanks for your time. Brandon

All I did so far was ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Manley" To: Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] buffer size from source to ice/shoutcast

> Brandon wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I've built my own source for ICE/SHOUTcast, and it works pretty well > > except for one thing. After tuning into the server and listening for > > an 60-90 minutes you may hear a song skip ahead 30-90 seconds. I think > > I know why this is happening but I'mnot sure how to fix it. > > > > I think this is happening because my source is sending a little bit > > too much data to ICE/SHOUTcast. My formula for sending data is pretty > > simple and goes like this: > > > > buffersize = bitrate * 1024 / 8 > > send buffer > > wait 1 second > > repeat > > > > So..broadcasting at 128kbs means I send a buffer of 16384 bytes per > > second. > > > > Well you have to realise the kilobit definition used with mp3 is 1kbit = > 1000bits/sec (Microsoft uses 1kbit=1024bits for it's media formats > incidently). > > But your algorithm will suffer because sending the data will take a > non-negligible time - > better algorithm is > > start = time(); > sent = 0; > while(1){ > sent += send_chunk(); > delta = time() - start; > my_bitrate = sent *8 / delta; > if(my_bitrate> target_bitrate){ > sleep(1); /* (or any short time)*/ > } > } > > you maybe want to reset the sent/start parameters periodicly. > > Scott Manley > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at Sat Nov 16 19:59:21 2002 From: lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at (Lukas �sterreicher) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:59:21 +0100 Subject: [icecast] compiling under redhat Message-ID: Hi there. I have tried to compile icecast 2 by following the instructions on http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/2870.html After I upgrated my cvs version i was able to check out the source just as in the above mentioned inscrution, but when doing a ./autogen.sh it gave me the following errors: I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. Generating configuration files for icecast, please wait.... aclocal -I /usr/share/aclocal/ libtoolize --automake automake --add-missing /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL autoconf creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for Cygwin environment... no checking for mingw32 environment... no checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all checking for object suffix... o checking for executable suffix... no checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking for objdir... .libs checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no creating libtool checking for library containing inet_pton... none required checking for library containing getipnodebyname... no checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for pwd.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking for working const... yes checking for xslt-config... no configure: error: xslt-config could not be found this was already after I added ACLOCAL_FLAGS=-I /usr/share/aclocal/ to the environment for fixing the "macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library" error. I read another mail with the same error and it told there that it might be needed to downgrade automake or other tools as 1.6 is not compatible anymore. I have a Redhat 7.2 system with the following versions of the tools/libarys I read were needed to compile: automake-1.4p5-2 autoconf-2.13-14 libtool-1.4-8 libxml-1.8.14-2 libxml2-2.4.2-1 libogg-1.0rc2-1 Could you tell me what to do to get icecast 2 compiled? Thank you in advance, Lukas ?sterreicher

Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at Sat Nov 16 21:55:14 2002 From: lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at (Lukas �sterreicher) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:55:14 +0100 Subject: [icecast] compiling under redhat In-Reply-To: <[icecast] compiling under redhat> Message-ID: Hi again. With your help I managed to get the configure run through - i installed or updated the various librarys. it is unsure though if the errors seen are not in the end fatal. when i now run make it tells me this: Making all in src make[1]: Wechsel in das Verzeichnis Verzeichnis ?/root/icecast/icecast/src? Makefile:220: *** Fehlendes Trennzeichen.. Schluss. make[1]: Verlassen des Verzeichnisses Verzeichnis ?/root/icecast/icecast/src? make: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1 for your better understanding i'll translate a bit: Wechsel in das Verzeichnis Verzeichnis=changing into directory Fehlendes Trennzeichen.. Schluss.=missing seperator character. quit. Verlassen des Verzeichnisses Verzeichnis=leaving directory Fehler=error Can you tell me how to fix that error? Thanx.

>Lukas ?sterreicher wrote: >> automake-1.4p5-2 >> autoconf-2.13-14 >> libtool-1.4-8 >> libxml-1.8.14-2 >> libxml2-2.4.2-1 >> libogg-1.0rc2-1 >> >> Could you tell me what to do to get icecast 2 compiled? > >The libraries you're missing are libxslt and libvorbis. Your libogg is >also stoneage (more than 1 year old), get the 1.0 releases of both >libogg and libvorbis. You might also have to install the respective >-devel packages for those libs. Ogg Vorbis related stuff can be found at >http://www.vorbis.com/ . I don't get those AM_CONDITIONAL errors on my >OpenBSD 3.2 box with automake 1.4p6, autoconf 2.13 and libtool 1.3.5 ... >maybe they are non-critical, otherwise I suppose your installation of >automake is a bit b0rk3d. > > >Moritz >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >

Thanks, Steve Smaldone -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1660 bytes Desc: winmail.dat URL: From jesper.johnson at welho.com Mon Nov 18 17:34:23 2002 From: jesper.johnson at welho.com (Jesper Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:34:23 +0200 Subject: [icecast] WinAmp3 & Icecast2 compatibility? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20021118193423.0093ad18@mail-hub.welho.com> Hello folks I'm having trouble playing ogg streams with WinAmp3. I run Icecast2 & Ices2 (both compiled from CVS about two weeks ago) on a Linux box, the files being streamed were encoded with oggenc (from oggutils1.0, managed 80kbitrate...) The problem is that WinAmp3 won't actually play the .ogg stream. When I give it the URL (http://myserver:8000/mount.ogg) it says "connecting" then "prebuffering done" and finally it'll display the mountpoint filename plus the correct bitrate info -- but no audio! WinAmp3 plays the same ogg files fine from a local hard drive. Also, I tried Zinf for Windows, it can play the stream correctly -- but stops after each song, leaving lines like "DBUG source/source_main Client had recoverable error 11" accompanied by a "DBUG source/source_main Client had recoverable error 11" in the icecast error log. The only players I've managed to get to work perfectly with the stream were ogg123 and XMMS on Linux. But I need a player for Windows, so this is kinda bugging me. Does anyone have a clue how to get WinAmp3 to work --- or should it work out-of-the-box without the hassle I've got myself into? What've I missed? ;-) Thanks in advance! I'm eagerly waiting for the full docs on ice(s)/cast2 :-P

Leo >Thanks in advance! I'm eagerly waiting for the full docs on ice(s)/cast2 :-P > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >

_______________________________________________________ Vizzavi Mail powered by Vodafone - http://www.vizzavi.pt Virus protected by TrendMicro - http://www.antivirus.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Mon Nov 18 21:47:25 2002 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:47:25 -0600 Subject: [icecast] WinAmp3 & Icecast2 compatibility? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] WinAmp3 & Icecast2 compatibility?> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021118154719.02fbecb0@oddsock.org> At 05:57 PM 11/18/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Jesper Johnson wrote: > >>Hello folks >> >>I'm having trouble playing ogg streams with WinAmp3. I run Icecast2 & > >>Ices2 >>(both compiled from CVS about two weeks ago) on a Linux box, the files >>being streamed were encoded with oggenc (from oggutils1.0, managed >>80kbitrate...) The problem is that WinAmp3 won't actually play the .ogg >>stream. When I give it the URL (http://myserver:8000/mount.ogg) it says >>"connecting" then "prebuffering done" and finally it'll display the >>mountpoint filename plus the correct bitrate info -- but no audio! WinAmp3 >>plays the same ogg files fine from a local hard drive. >> >Weird. I've stuck with Winamp2 because it works! :) >I bet Oddsock knows whats wrong.... yep, vorbis streams are majorly broken with the current Winamp3....playing files works, just not streaming... http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=0c12e6a54362367805354c77d43bd58a&threadid=110730

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BOFH excuse #356: the daemons! the daemons! the terrible daemons! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at arkena.com Tue Nov 19 10:46:40 2002 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:46:40 +0100 Subject: [icecast] advanced relaying questions In-Reply-To: <20021119103039.GA32337@thomas.arkena.com> Message-ID: <20021119104640.GC32337@thomas.arkena.com> Hey there! On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:30:40AM +0100, Thomas Kirk wrote: > 2) Bug in icecast 1.3.10 adding more than one realy in the alias list > in icecast.conf will make icecast realying the first source in > aliaslist correctly the rest is wrong because icecast somehow > replace the source with its own localadresse? Let me give an > example : The way that i solved this issue right now is by logging into icecast manually and adding the relays through the command alias. This works correctly? The only trouble with this solution is that everytime icecast is restart either with a rehash in icecastprompt or by sending -SIGHUP and thereby forced to reread the icecast.conf it fucks all my relays? Im still interrested in knowing why this happens? -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk ARKENA thomas(at)arkena(dot)com http://www.arkena.com

BOFH excuse #101: Collapsed Backbone --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From str at strgt.cjb.net Tue Nov 19 08:17:48 2002 From: str at strgt.cjb.net (Stuardo Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:17:48 +0000 Subject: [icecast] icecast to rebound streaming radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200211190817.48240.str@strgt.cjb.net> On Monday 18 November 2002 23:23, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Stuardo Rodriguez wrote: > > What we want to do is this: to stream the local radio from Guatemala to > > USA, this means that the local machine will only have 1 client. Then we > > want that the server in USA "rebounds" what it recives from Guatemala. > > Then, the server in USA could have many clients.. > > is it posible with icecast? how do i do it? > As for how, this depends on whether you're wanting to use icecast 1.x or > icecast 2. Let us know and one of us will be able to walk you through it. > > Geoff. I don't really care if it is icecast 1 or 2 ... -- StR - http://strgt.cjb.net - --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From str at strgt.cjb.net Tue Nov 19 08:21:26 2002 From: str at strgt.cjb.net (Stuardo Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:21:26 +0000 Subject: [icecast] icecast to rebound streaming radio In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20021119130350.425452b0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: <200211190821.26823.str@strgt.cjb.net> On Tuesday 19 November 2002 02:03, Michael Smith wrote: > >is it posible with icecast? how do i do it? > > Yes. See the relaying documentation. Could U give me the URL for this? -- StR - http://strgt.cjb.net - --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mjs at blitztechnology.net Tue Nov 19 20:31:03 2002 From: mjs at blitztechnology.net (Mitchell Smith) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:31:03 +1100 Subject: [icecast] ices.pm Message-ID: <000501c2900a$9518d320$0301a8c0@blitztechnology.net> Hi list, I am just about to write my own playlist generator for my icecast stream and was just looking at the docs that come with the ices source. They refer to an ices.pm file which apparently provides a skeleton to work from, except I can't find it anywhere in the ices-0.2.3 tarball. Can anyone please direct me to a location where I could track down this elusive code template? Thanks From marc at mainetech.net Tue Nov 19 21:54:44 2002 From: marc at mainetech.net (Marc Thomas) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:54:44 -0500 Subject: [icecast] ices.pm In-Reply-To: <000501c2900a$9518d320$0301a8c0@blitztechnology.net> Message-ID: In mine it's in the ./ices-0.2.3/conf directory. If you can't fin dit, let me know.

Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Mitchell Smith > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:31 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] ices.pm > > > Hi list, > > I am just about to write my own playlist generator for my icecast > stream and > was just looking at the docs that come with the ices source. > > They refer to an ices.pm file which apparently provides a skeleton to work > from, except I can't find it anywhere in the ices-0.2.3 tarball. > > Can anyone please direct me to a location where I could track down this > elusive code template? > > Thanks > > From Mitchell > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at Tue Nov 19 21:55:15 2002 From: lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at (Lukas �sterreicher) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:55:15 +0100 Subject: [icecast] automake problem Message-ID: Hi again. Which version of automake is used for the sources of icecast (& co)? Which versions of automake will be able to work with the files on cvs? I'd also like to ask you if some of you got to build the icecast 2 sources correctly with redhat 7.2, 7.3 or 8.0. I am getting the following error doing an ./autogen.sh: I am going to run ./configure with no arguments - if you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the ./autogen.sh command line. Generating configuration files for icecast, please wait.... aclocal aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library libtoolize --automake automake --add-missing /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL /usr/local/share/automake/am/lang-compile.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL autoconf loading cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for working aclocal... found checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... found checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... (cached) gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes ./ltconfig: ./ltconfig: No such file or directory configure: error: libtool configure failed The latest error with ltconfig just came up after messing up with different automake versions, as it told somewhere this came from incompatibilites between automake 1.4 and 1.5. It known redhat messes around with all those make things, and others, using old versions and putting patches in them - which gets very confusing. Maybe this is the case here too? Also, can someone tell me how to clear up messes after fooling around with rpm doing up and downgrades also using --nodeps? I really hope you can help me or i'm up for setting up my linux router all again. Thanx in advance, Lukas

> I have installed the icecast server on my Debian Linux 2.2. I modified the > distributed icecast.conf (as far as thought was necessary), and I set up the > shout.conf... > Both server and shout are started from root and are set up to localhost. > > I could start the server, but when I started shout, it did find the server, > but it was blocked with the message "BAD PASSWORD[encoder]" even if the > password matched exactly. > So, I changed the icecast server encoder_password with "set encoder_password > now" to "now" and the server affirmed the change. > Then I started shout with the option "-P now", but still the message "BAD > PASSWORD[encoder]". > I don't know what I did wrong, but probably the error is somewhere totally > else than I have been looking for. > > I have attached the config files I changed, so if I made a mistake setting > up those > config files, please mail the changes which have to be done. > > -- > +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ > NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f?r 1 ct/ Min. surfen!

Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at Wed Nov 20 15:49:13 2002 From: lukas.oesterreicher at inode.at (Lukas �sterreicher) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:49:13 +0100 Subject: [icecast] automake problem In-Reply-To: <[icecast] automake problem> Message-ID: >Redhat 8.0 works for me - > From a regular install, you'll need to make sure that /etc/ld.so.conf >contains '/usr/local/lib' >and that you install libxslt-devel (i think...) Thank you very much. That's just what I needed to hear, was thinking about installing rh 8 but was unsure if i'd make it even more unlikely to get it compiled. My system needs a clean install again. Will report if it worked or not... Lukas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From djsnm at djsnm.com Wed Nov 20 16:02:57 2002 From: djsnm at djsnm.com (Scott Manley) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:02:57 -0800 Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database In-Reply-To: <3DDB7A13.1000405@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002901c290ae$4b7c45e0$677ba8c0@minisnm> This doesn't exist, some commercial entities have discussed setting this up but right now it's not there.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo Currie" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:03 AM Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database

> Sorry this isn't really icecast related, but > I'm looking for an online music database that will let me search by > artist+track and retrieve the likely record label / music publisher that > owns the copyright. > I want to do this from within a script as well :) > Hoping somebody might know of one off the top of their head... > > Cheers > > Leo > > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From maria at mariaworld.com Wed Nov 20 15:50:45 2002 From: maria at mariaworld.com (Maria Wright) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:50:45 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Otto Message-ID: <002001c290ac$96a55ef0$4f8fe5d8@pdc.forward.net> Im interested in thoughts about Otto. It looks great. I want to use it as a frontend for Icecast. Thanks! Maria --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk Wed Nov 20 16:13:30 2002 From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:13:30 +0000 Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database In-Reply-To: <002901c290ae$4b7c45e0$677ba8c0@minisnm> Message-ID: <3DDBB4AA.9010102@strath.ac.uk> Scott Manley wrote: > This doesn't exist, some commercial entities have discussed setting this up > but right now it's not there. I was hoping you _weren't_ going to say that :( Thanks anyway !! Leo

> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leo Currie" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:03 AM > Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database > > > >>Sorry this isn't really icecast related, but >>I'm looking for an online music database that will let me search by >>artist+track and retrieve the likely record label / music publisher that >>owns the copyright. >>I want to do this from within a script as well :) >>Hoping somebody might know of one off the top of their head... >> >>Cheers >> >>Leo >> >> >> > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

> The Debian Icecast server is compiled with password crypt support, which > means you can't put the password in in cleartext. You will have to > > apt-get install makepasswd > > and do something like > > echo "password" > passwd.tmp > makepassword --crypt --clearfrom=passwd.tmp > > and paste the encrypted password in to your icecast.conf file. > > Hope this helps. > > >From Mitchell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lukas Bulwahn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:38 PM > Subject: [icecast] NEWBIE QUESTION - ERROR [BAD PASSWORD] > > > > I have installed the icecast server on my Debian Linux 2.2. I modified > the > > distributed icecast.conf (as far as thought was necessary), and I set up > the > > shout.conf... > > Both server and shout are started from root and are set up to localhost. > > > > I could start the server, but when I started shout, it did find the > server, > > but it was blocked with the message "BAD PASSWORD[encoder]" even if the > > password matched exactly. > > So, I changed the icecast server encoder_password with "set > encoder_password > > now" to "now" and the server affirmed the change. > > Then I started shout with the option "-P now", but still the message > "BAD > > PASSWORD[encoder]". > > I don't know what I did wrong, but probably the error is somewhere > totally > > else than I have been looking for. > > > > I have attached the config files I changed, so if I made a mistake > setting > > up those > > config files, please mail the changes which have to be done. > > > > -- > > +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ > > NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f?r 1 ct/ Min. surfen! > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f?r 1 ct/ Min. surfen! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From toni_guga at lycos.it Thu Nov 21 12:47:17 2002 From: toni_guga at lycos.it (toni guga) Date: 21 Nov 2002 13:47:17 +0100 Subject: [icecast] my radio have some problems Message-ID: <1037882837.12453.59.camel@stream.itg.com> Hi to everyone I need some help with icecast and shout. im using icecast 1.2.12(wich i compiled it by my self) and shout 0.8.0 ( compiled by me), i tried to use ices but it gives me some broblems during ./configure with XML and other lib's... The radio stations are working OK and people connect to them with no problem but after some min the radio stops playing by it's self and the error msg is [21/Nov/2002:11:36:23] [6:Source Thread] Kicking client 175 [62.123.125.30] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 4 minutes and 57 seconds, 4481507 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected and another error is: * [Host: 62.123.125.30] [Mountpoint /123] [Id: 243] [Connected for: 1 minutes and 41 seconds] [Source Id: 2] [Bytes written: 1611857] [Errors: 1] [User agent: xmms/1.2.7] [Type: listener] End of client listing * [Host: 62.123.125.30] [Mountpoint /123] [Id: 243] [Connected for: 2 minutes and 37 seconds] [Source Id: 2] [Bytes written: 2482593] [Errors: 3] [User agent: xmms/1.2.7] [Type: listener] End of client listing and after some min the radio stops playing I don't understat why... Please help me

tha P.S Sorry for mine unusual english -- Toni Guga System Administrator toni_guga at lycos.it Internet Television Group s.r.l Corso Regio Parco 2 Torino cap 10153 (IT) tel: 011/5216498 fax:011/5216501 mail: itg at itgtv.tv web site: http://www.madeinitaly.tv/ forum site: http://www.madeinitaly.tv/phpBB2/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Scott.Prive at storigen.com Thu Nov 21 16:41:35 2002 From: Scott.Prive at storigen.com (Scott Prive) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:41:35 -0500 Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database In-Reply-To: <[icecast] [OT] Online music database> Message-ID: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5AC1E4BC@xchangeserver2.storigen.com> (Already noting the posts that say this is not available) Are you willing to deal with "non authoritative" answers in your query? If so, you can write some scripts that talk CGI to a commercial music vendor. I use a (no longer available) MP3 tagger called "MP3 Internet Renamer". It would go out and request a web page from the "All Music Guide" ( http://www.allmusic.com/ ). The application will then parse out information for the tags. The tagger is no longer available (and was closed source anyways) so you'll need to write your own regular expressions/parser, but this is very doable using a lightweight web browser such as "links" (or lynx, w3m, etc). This method breaks if the music vendor has incorrect information, or if they change page formatting sufficently that your text search no longer finds the data. -Scott

> -----Original Message----- > From: Leo Currie [mailto:leo.currie at strath.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:04 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database > > > Sorry this isn't really icecast related, but > I'm looking for an online music database that will let me search by > artist+track and retrieve the likely record label / music > publisher that > owns the copyright. > I want to do this from within a script as well :) > Hoping somebody might know of one off the top of their head... > > Cheers > > Leo > > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk Thu Nov 21 17:04:11 2002 From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:04:11 +0000 Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database In-Reply-To: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5AC1E4BC@xchangeserver2.storigen.com> Message-ID: <3DDD120B.6070406@strath.ac.uk> Scott Prive wrote: > (Already noting the posts that say this is not available) > > Are you willing to deal with "non authoritative" answers in your query? Yep. Basically, we're running a student 'radio' station (online, mainly music, multiple streams), most of which will be playlisted. At the moment I'm cobbling together a script to let folk upload .ogg files to the database. It presents them with a form containing all the tag's off the file, and a few other details we need (including the publisher) for them to confirm / edit before it's stored. The publisher details are required for our returns to the music licensing people (who will no doubt double check everything!) So it would be nice for the script to at least _guess_ at which label the track was licensed by. > If so, you can write some scripts that talk CGI to a commercial music vendor. I use a (no longer available) MP3 tagger called "MP3 Internet Renamer". It would go out and request a web page from the "All Music Guide" ( http://www.allmusic.com/ ). Sounds good. My skills aren't up to it, but there is only one way to learn... > The application will then parse out information for the tags. The tagger is no longer available (and was closed source anyways) so you'll need to write your own regular expressions/parser, but this is very doable using a lightweight web browser such as "links" (or lynx, w3m, etc). wonder if I could do it using libwww-perl? > This method breaks if the music vendor has incorrect information, or if they change page formatting sufficently that your text search no longer finds the data. I'll give it a shot! I guess it's just a case of taking a close look at the html results from a bunch of queries, and working out a strategy for extracting the right info. Thanks for the link! I'll let you know how I get on... Leo

> > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Leo Currie [mailto:leo.currie at strath.ac.uk] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:04 AM >>To: icecast at xiph.org >>Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database >> >> >>Sorry this isn't really icecast related, but >>I'm looking for an online music database that will let me search by >>artist+track and retrieve the likely record label / music >>publisher that >>owns the copyright. >>I want to do this from within a script as well :) >>Hoping somebody might know of one off the top of their head... >> >>Cheers >> >>Leo >> >> >> > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

> -----Original Message----- > From: Leo Currie [mailto:leo.currie at strath.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:04 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] [OT] Online music database > > > Scott Prive wrote: > > (Already noting the posts that say this is not available) > > > > Are you willing to deal with "non authoritative" answers in > your query? > > Yep. Basically, we're running a student 'radio' station > (online, mainly > music, multiple streams), most of which will be playlisted. At the > moment I'm cobbling together a script to let folk upload .ogg > files to > the database. It presents them with a form containing all the > tag's off > the file, and a few other details we need (including the > publisher) for > them to confirm / edit before it's stored. > The publisher details are required for our returns to the music > licensing people (who will no doubt double check everything!) > So it would be nice for the script to at least _guess_ at which label > the track was licensed by. > > > If so, you can write some scripts that talk CGI to a > commercial music vendor. I use a (no longer available) MP3 > tagger called "MP3 Internet Renamer". It would go out and > request a web page from the "All Music Guide" ( > http://www.allmusic.com/ ). > > Sounds good. My skills aren't up to it, but there is only one way to > learn... > > > The application will then parse out information for the > tags. The tagger is no longer available (and was closed > source anyways) so you'll need to write your own regular > expressions/parser, but this is very doable using a > lightweight web browser such as "links" (or lynx, w3m, etc). > > wonder if I could do it using libwww-perl? > > > This method breaks if the music vendor has incorrect > information, or if they change page formatting sufficently > that your text search no longer finds the data. > > I'll give it a shot! I guess it's just a case of taking a > close look at > the html results from a bunch of queries, and working out a > strategy for > extracting the right info. > Thanks for the link! I'll let you know how I get on... > > Leo > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Leo Currie [mailto:leo.currie at strath.ac.uk] > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:04 AM > >>To: icecast at xiph.org > >>Subject: [icecast] [OT] Online music database > >> > >> > >>Sorry this isn't really icecast related, but > >>I'm looking for an online music database that will let me search by > >>artist+track and retrieve the likely record label / music > >>publisher that > >>owns the copyright. > >>I want to do this from within a script as well :) > >>Hoping somebody might know of one off the top of their head... > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >>Leo > >> > >> > >> > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mrakotom at wanadoo.fr Thu Nov 21 19:26:41 2002 From: mrakotom at wanadoo.fr (Rakotomandimby Mihamina) Date: 21 Nov 2002 20:26:41 +0100 Subject: [icecast] directory servers Message-ID: <1037906802.23881.4.camel@rktmb> Hi all i use icecast and my server seems to touch many directory servers .. but when i visit for example http://yp.icecast.org , my server i not listed . I remember it was listed four or five weeks ago ... why that ?

> Hi all i use icecast and my server seems to touch many directory servers > .. but when i visit for example http://yp.icecast.org , > my server i not listed . > I remember it was listed four or five weeks ago ... why that ? > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or yp.icecast.org didnt like > | mozilla 1.1 > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step up and maintain > icecast.org. > > /dale > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >

On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or yp.icecast.org didnt > | like mozilla 1.1 > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step up and maintain > icecast.org. > > /dale > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers >=20 >=20 > We're in the process of updating web pages. >=20 > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast=20 > 1.x releases.=20 > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2=20 > and Ices2, for=20 > Ogg Vorbis streaming, and thus, the new page will be updating=20 > accordingly. >=20 >=20 > ml >=20 >=20 > On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or=20 > yp.icecast.org didnt > > | like mozilla 1.1 > > > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step=20 > up and maintain > > icecast.org. > > > > /dale > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to=20 > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No=20 > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com >=20 >=20 > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to=20 > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No=20 > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >=20 >=20 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asmadi.ali at kustem.edu.my Thu Nov 21 23:04:00 2002 From: asmadi.ali at kustem.edu.my (Asmadi Bin Ali) Date: Thu Nov 21 23:04:00 2002 Subject: [icecast] Please confirm your message In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Please confirm your message> Message-ID: On 22 Nov 2002 07:41 MYT you wrote: > > > Hello, this is the mailing list anti-spam filter at Xiph.Org. > We need you to confirm your e-mail message with the subject of > "RE: [icecast] directory servers". > > Please send a message to the following address, or simply use your > mailer's "Reply" feature. > > icecast confirm 1037921402.17606.bab310 at xiph.org > > Rather than allow only list subscribers to post to Xiph.Org mailing > lists, we've set up a whitelist system by which anyone can post, but > the first message from an unknown email address must be confirmed to > verify that's it's not email from a spam robot. Your confirmation > reply will add this email address to our whitelist, and allow you to > post freely to Xiph.Org mailing lists from the confirmed address. > > [ This notice was generated by TMDA/0.58 (http://tmda.sf.net/), > an automated junk-mail reduction system. ] > > --- Enclosed is a copy of your message. > > >From scottprive at earthlink.net Thu Nov 21 18:30:01 2002 > Return-Path: > Delivered-To: icecast at xiph.org > Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) > by motherfish-II.xiph.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A524532A5E > for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:30:01 -0500 (EST) > Received: from thecount.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.42] helo=thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net) > by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) > id 18F0lg-0007Ne-00 > for icecast at xiph.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:56 -0800 > Received: (from nobody at localhost) > by thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.6 Sun/8.10.2) id gALNTsP28863 > for icecast at xiph.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:54 -0800 (PST) > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:54 -0800 > From: "Scott Prive" > To: icecast at xiph.org > Reply-To: scottprive at earthlink.net > Subject: RE: [icecast] directory servers > Sender: scottprive at earthlink.net > Message-ID: > X-Originating-IP: 65.193.106.66 > > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > 1.x releases. > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > and Ices2, for > > Are you serious??? > > The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has *nothing* to do with the > web site. Not from a user perspective anyways. > > What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. you're justifying > NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. > > LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people who simply hit > "Back" on their webbrowser will you? > > I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you were in dire need of > volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, but that's not > what you're saying. > > Here are some constructive suggestions: > 1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is there has been no > decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one wants to FIX it. If > the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then consider running > an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is not yet ready.. > then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it? > > 2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? > > 3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are > newsworthy? > > 4) How about links to other applications that have dependencies on Icecast? > You know.. "community" stuff. > > 5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. Every few months a > web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be informative, since it > indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) > > If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the state of the website > being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. > > Seriously... if you need help, put up a "Help Wanted" webpage with a list of > many small TODO items people could claim. > > It's good to hear there is work on updated web pages. Looking forward to it. > :-) > > Peace, > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net] > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers > > > > > > We're in the process of updating web pages. > > > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > 1.x releases. > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > and Ices2, for > > Ogg Vorbis streaming, and thus, the new page will be updating > > accordingly. > > > > > > ml > > > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or > > yp.icecast.org didnt > > > | like mozilla 1.1 > > > > > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > > > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > > > > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > > > > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step > > up and maintain > > > icecast.org. > > > > > > /dale > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From msmith at xiph.org Fri Nov 22 09:01:36 2002 From: msmith at xiph.org (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:01:36 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Please confirm your message In-Reply-To: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5AC1E4C0@xchangeserver2.stor igen.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20021122200136.4333c880@mail.labyrinth.net.au> >Are you serious??? > >The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has *nothing* to do with the >web site. Not from a user perspective anyways. > >What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. you're justifying >NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. That's a complete and utter lie. We've been going to quite a lot of effort to solicit volunteers to develop and maintain various things, including the website. Volunteers HAVE come forward, and we ARE working on major updates to the website. Yes, the website as it stands is horribly out of date, to the point where minor changes are not sufficient. As such, it's being replaced entirely. > >LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people who simply hit >"Back" on their webbrowser will you? > >I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you were in dire need of >volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, but that's not >what you're saying. Bullshit. > >Here are some constructive suggestions: >1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is there has been no >decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one wants to FIX it. If >the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then consider running >an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is not yet ready.. >then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it? > None of the current developers are interested in running the directory server, and nobody else has volunteered to help out. Indeed, nobody has said anything at all about the directory server other than to note that it isn't running. We're ALL VOLUNTEERS, so this means that if something isn't running, and nobody is willing to help, it gets abandoned. That's a fact of life in volunteer projects - if you want it, either join in and do it yourself, ask POLITELY for someone else to volunteer their time, or pay one of the developers to do it. >2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? There are lots. That's why we're writing one. > >3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are >newsworthy? There are. A series of problems mean we haven't yet put them up on the website. The latest release is currently at http://www.xiph.org/~msmith/ > >4) How about links to other applications that have dependencies on Icecast? >You know.. "community" stuff. > >5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. Every few months a >web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be informative, since it >indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) We didn't know the password, which is one of the reasons the site was dead for months. > >If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the state of the website >being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. You do. You've spent half a page bitching about various things, and saying that we should get other people to help out if we can't do everything, but you haven't volunteered to do anything youself, you've just demanded various things. Michael

On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:29 pm, Scott Prive wrote: > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > 1.x releases. > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > and Ices2, for > > Are you serious??? > > The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has *nothing* to do with > the web site. Not from a user perspective anyways. > > What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. you're justifying > NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. > > LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people who simply hit > "Back" on their webbrowser will you? > > I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you were in dire need > of volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, but that's > not what you're saying. > > Here are some constructive suggestions: > 1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is there has been no > decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one wants to FIX it. > If the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then consider > running an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is not > yet ready.. then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it? > > 2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? > > 3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are > newsworthy? > > 4) How about links to other applications that have dependencies on Icecast? > You know.. "community" stuff. > > 5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. Every few months a > web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be informative, since it > indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) > > If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the state of the > website being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. > > Seriously... if you need help, put up a "Help Wanted" webpage with a list > of many small TODO items people could claim. > > It's good to hear there is work on updated web pages. Looking forward to > it. > > :-) > > Peace, > > Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net] > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers > > > > > > We're in the process of updating web pages. > > > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > 1.x releases. > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > and Ices2, for > > Ogg Vorbis streaming, and thus, the new page will be updating > > accordingly. > > > > > > ml > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or > > > > yp.icecast.org didnt > > > > > | like mozilla 1.1 > > > > > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > > > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > > > > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > > > > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step > > > > up and maintain > > > > > icecast.org. > > > > > > /dale > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > > > > subject is needed. > > > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > -- > > > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

> > Volunteers HAVE come forward, and we ARE working on major updates > to the website. Yes, the website as it stands is horribly out of > date, to the point where minor changes are not sufficient. As such, > it's being replaced entirely. An overhaul sounds *great*. I agree... nothing can band-aid the current site into being relevant. However, UNTIL this next-generation website is put into place, every visitor (who is NOT on the mailing list) is going to get a false impression on the state of things. Do you agree? > > > > >LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people > who simply hit > >"Back" on their webbrowser will you? > > > >I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you > were in dire need of > >volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, > but that's not > >what you're saying. > > Bullshit. See above. > > > > >Here are some constructive suggestions: > >1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is > there has been no > >decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one > wants to FIX it. If > >the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then > consider running > >an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is > not yet ready.. > >then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it? > > > > None of the current developers are interested in running the directory > server, and nobody else has volunteered to help out. Indeed, > nobody has > said anything at all about the directory server other than to > note that > it isn't running. SO I would present this situation to EVERYONE on the team as: "We don't have the tools/experience/documentation to support this issue ourselves. Until this changes we have no choice but to shut this non-working feature down.". Further down, I see the passwd was a problem, so when this started you could not put up an explanatory webpage why this is down. But you have the password now, right? I have no clue why the directory server is dead. Given what I know, would you like me to whip up a webpage stating it's out of order, and volunteers to fix this are welcome, and perhaps this page will be up again when 2.0 is released?

> We're ALL VOLUNTEERS, so this means that if > something > isn't running, and nobody is willing to help, it gets > abandoned. Trust me; I understand... It sucks when you're trying to get something done, and you don't have the information you need. I've been doing Software QA for the last 11 years... when things are not documented, you spend a LOT of time trying to compensate (and that time wasted is *disproportionate* to what it would take using a document-as-you-go strategy). My suggestion here is to replace the page with an Out Of Order sign, and when you expect it will be back up (v2.0 release maybe? I don't know). Maybe link in some relevent thread from this list (I've only been on for 4 months or so... I don't know why or how it broke, or how to fix it).

>That's > a fact of life in volunteer projects - if you want it, either join in > and do it yourself, ask POLITELY for someone else to volunteer their > time, or pay one of the developers to do it. Gnome.org had a great idea for their website: they had a "Help Wanted" page with available tasks, and you could sort tasks by "technical complexity" and time-effort. One could design a list of tasks, and then people could just submit something. The key point of this suggestion is volunteers do not need to completely stay on top of all the happenings. You assume some management overhead. Hopefully, people will express interest in the things which appeal to them. I don't have a clue what you guys need, and if I mentally stayed on top of everything I would probably consume whatever time I had.. > > >2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? > > There are lots. That's why we're writing one. Great. If you have a short list now, upload what you have and don't worry about appearances. It could even contain just ONE item to start: "Don't download Icecast1". I just talked to a guy on the BLU mailing list who's tried out Icecast... and he's just downloaded Ices1. He's knows `now' that I told him.. get the v2 product. This message does not seem to get enough visibility. If you're working on a nice *automated* or interactive FAQ that's self-maintaining... something fancy like that... cool. But for now, even hardcoded HTML will save people from doing the wrong thing. > > > > >3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are > >newsworthy? > > There are. A series of problems mean we haven't yet put them up on > the website. The latest release is currently at > http://www.xiph.org/~msmith/ Ah! See next response... > > > > >4) How about links to other applications that have > dependencies on Icecast? > >You know.. "community" stuff. > > > >5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. > Every few months a > >web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be > informative, since it > >indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) > > We didn't know the password, which is one of the reasons the site > was dead for months. WOW. That blows. I wasn't being serious when I stated that.. sorry to hear that's actually true. Given the positive activity here, and with the Ogg group, one had to wonder what the heck was going on... Is it a bad idea to put on the homepage at the top, under "latest news": "Friday, November 22 2002 12:18 EST - Sorry there have been no updates in a while. We had some severe website problems which prevented us from updating the website during that time. We ARE still here, and a new website *is* in the works. This means we will not be making major changes to the curent website, which is obsolete. We anticipate the new website will be around somewhere around the second week of . Thank you for your patience, and as always.. the latest Icecast2 news can be found on the mailing list " If you fill in the blanks, I can even mail this as a diff. > > > > >If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the > state of the website > >being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. > > You do. You've spent half a page bitching about various things, and > saying that we should get other people to help out if we can't do > everything, but you haven't volunteered to do anything youself, you've > just demanded various things. Fair enough. Any and all bitching expressed here is a side-effect of excitement and appreciation for the product. I know I have some time tomorrow... tell me what would you like worked on? :-) Since I don't know what you want (hint... we need a Help Wanted page :-) I'll just state I am an all-around UNIX guy with very good software testing skills, and some knowledge of scripting. I have a few hours a week available for your disposal. I am not current on web standards. Scott > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Scott.Prive at storigen.com Fri Nov 22 17:35:50 2002 From: Scott.Prive at storigen.com (Scott Prive) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:35:50 -0500 Subject: [icecast] directory servers In-Reply-To: <[icecast] directory servers> Message-ID: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5AC1E4C7@xchangeserver2.storigen.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:29 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers > > > I never said that the information would be deleted. Rather, > the new page will > concentrate on icecast2 and related vorbis projects. The > information for the > older releases (as well as all the content from the Icecast1 > page) will just > be a click away. > > I'm not justifying anything. Read back to a few days ago, > maybe a week or so. > I asked for help documenting Icecast2 and Ices2. You just not > reading. Also, > you might not be aware that there are things on irc, personal > email, and > other private communications that you just don't know. You are correct. I don't know. I spend an hour or so a week reading posts here, but I can't *actively* follow everything, especially IRC. My suggestion here is, for someone who IS involved, post a Weekly Status. Even a small one.

> > Just because you don't see us doing anything doesn't mean > that it won't happen > or that it is not going to happen. We have several people > working on new > pages. When they're done, they will be uploaded and posted. > > As Mike said, this is a volunteer project. Read his message > again. Other than > an email address @xiph.org, I haven't received any money. We > do what we can. > > I invite you to help then, instead of wasting your energy > here. Accepted. :-) Not sure what to do. At my current level of involvement I would prefer to choose a job from a list. I only have a few hours to offer at a time (working at a startup and all..). I'm sure you > have useful skills that would make Xiph.org (and it's > NEGLECTED pages) a > better project for all. Thank you (and Michael) for explaining the situation, and past problems which caused the website to become neglected. I know some shell and Perl, and am a good software tester. My understanding of webpage languages is all circa-1996 stuff (want hardcoded HTML diffs against the outdated webpages?) > > Thank you, > > Manuel Lora > Project Manager > Xiph.org Foundation > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:29 pm, Scott Prive wrote: > > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > > 1.x releases. > > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > > and Ices2, for > > > > Are you serious??? > > > > The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has > *nothing* to do with > > the web site. Not from a user perspective anyways. > > > > What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. > you're justifying > > NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. > > > > LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people > who simply hit > > "Back" on their webbrowser will you? > > > > I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you > were in dire need > > of volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in > mind, but that's > > not what you're saying. > > > > Here are some constructive suggestions: > > 1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is > there has been no > > decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one > wants to FIX it. > > If the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, > then consider > > running an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 > directory code is not > > yet ready.. then it's probably premature to declare > Icecast1 dead isn't it? > > > > 2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? > > > > 3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are > > newsworthy? > > > > 4) How about links to other applications that have > dependencies on Icecast? > > You know.. "community" stuff. > > > > 5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. > Every few months a > > web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be > informative, since it > > indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) > > > > If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the > state of the > > website being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. > > > > Seriously... if you need help, put up a "Help Wanted" > webpage with a list > > of many small TODO items people could claim. > > > > It's good to hear there is work on updated web pages. > Looking forward to > > it. > > > > :-) > > > > Peace, > > > > Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Manuel Lora [mailto:vanguardist at cox.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM > > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > > Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers > > > > > > > > > We're in the process of updating web pages. > > > > > > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > > > 1.x releases. > > > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > > > and Ices2, for > > > Ogg Vorbis streaming, and thus, the new page will be updating > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > > ml > > > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:42 pm, Dale Ghent wrote: > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Blackwell wrote: > > > > | i remember a while ago when nothing was listed- or > > > > > > yp.icecast.org didnt > > > > > > > | like mozilla 1.1 > > > > > > > > yp.icecast.org has been broken for some time, and the icecast > > > > "maintainers" do not seem to care. > > > > > > > > It's a orphaned site, for all intents and purposes, it seems. > > > > > > > > Unless "they" (xiph.org? vorbis.com?) want someone to step > > > > > > up and maintain > > > > > > > icecast.org. > > > > > > > > /dale > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > > > > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > > > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > > > > > > subject is needed. > > > > > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > > > subject is needed. > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > > Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dstjohn at mediacast1.com Fri Nov 22 22:33:07 2002 From: dstjohn at mediacast1.com (Dave St John) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:33:07 -0700 Subject: [icecast] directory servers In-Reply-To: <200211221029.00860.vanguardist@cox.net> Message-ID: <002a01c29277$24a7b790$6501a8c0@anaconda> Id definatly be interested in helping with the ices2 icecast2 directory protocol. Just take a look at wp.casterclub.com. Is there a list of TODO pages anywhere??? Best Regards Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration (720) 641-7586 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manuel Lora" To: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers

I never said that the information would be deleted. Rather, the new page will concentrate on icecast2 and related vorbis projects. The information for the older releases (as well as all the content from the Icecast1 page) will just be a click away. I'm not justifying anything. Read back to a few days ago, maybe a week or so. I asked for help documenting Icecast2 and Ices2. You just not reading. Also, you might not be aware that there are things on irc, personal email, and other private communications that you just don't know. Just because you don't see us doing anything doesn't mean that it won't happen or that it is not going to happen. We have several people working on new pages. When they're done, they will be uploaded and posted. As Mike said, this is a volunteer project. Read his message again. Other than an email address @xiph.org, I haven't received any money. We do what we can. I invite you to help then, instead of wasting your energy here. I'm sure you have useful skills that would make Xiph.org (and it's NEGLECTED pages) a better project for all. Thank you, Manuel Lora Project Manager Xiph.org Foundation

Best Regards Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration (720) 641-7586 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Smith" To: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] directory servers

> At 03:33 PM 22/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Id definatly be interested in helping with the ices2 icecast2 directory > >protocol. > > I was discussing this with oddsock yesterday, and we have a solid > basic outline of how we're going to approach the problem. The next > step (which we haven't done) is to actually define the protocol > fully. > > >Just take a look at wp.casterclub.com. > > Do you know if there's a spec for the protocol used here? > > >Is there a list of TODO pages anywhere??? > > > > In cvs, but it's not always up to date, and it's mostly detailed > code issues. > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Nov 23 01:45:36 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:45:36 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Problems with Directory servers In-Reply-To: <200211222206.17649.juanfer@juanfer.com.ar> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Pardo Juan Fernando wrote: > P.D.: where can i download Icecast 2 ? Best place to get it from is the xiph CVS. Michael just added a bunch of bugfixes last night. See http://www.xiph.org/cvs.html for details on accessing the repository. Geoff.

-------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: test64.xml URL: From karl at pts.tele2.co.uk Sat Nov 23 16:51:45 2002 From: karl at pts.tele2.co.uk (Karl Heyes) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:51:45 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Ices issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021123165145.GA811@bogus.hackers.club> On 2002.11.23 15:41 Geoff Shang wrote: > My main concern is that it looks like ices was leaking memory. I heard my > noisy removable hard drive (which has the swap and root FS on it) start to > be accessed more than usual, which clued me into this. Here's the > situation after the broadcast had been going for about 2 hours: > > root 9247 0.1 66.3 45476 20168 pts/0 S 14:53 0:11 [ices] > root 9248 0.0 66.3 45476 20168 pts/0 S 14:53 0:00 [ices] > root 9249 0.0 66.3 45476 20168 pts/0 S 14:53 0:00 [ices] > root 9250 22.1 66.3 45476 20168 pts/0 R 14:53 26:42 [ices] > root 9251 77.0 66.3 45476 20168 pts/0 R 14:53 92:44 [ices] > > I'm not real concerned about the CPU usage, as it is a P2/266. However, > the RAM looks high. The system load was around 1.5 or 1.6 at this stage. If you are maxing the CPU then the queues for the instance threads will back up, and I know you've already seen that effect :) You could try the queue length limit patch to limit the memory usage but I suspect the core problem is that the CPU isn't able to get through it all, so ices queues up the work taking memory. > I don't know whether this problem occurs if I remove one of the 3 > activities going on here, it might take longer to show up in such cases. > I have to watch my bandwidth for the next week till the end of the month, > but then I can go again and see how it manages with a simpler setup. It depends on how far behind it gets and whether the work reduction is enough, see if there is a increased memory usage when running just test64 and savefile (when bandwidth issues allow) > The other thing I noticed was the last 2 or so minutes are not present in > the saved stream file. Ogginfo also says: > > Warning: EOS not set on stream 1 > > I don't know if this is related to the other issue or not. It won't be, but I'm not surprised it occurs. karl. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk Sun Nov 24 01:10:01 2002 From: djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk (Martin Blackwell) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:10:01 -0000 Subject: [icecast] peelable streaming Message-ID: <00ad01c29356$378615c0$27894c51@p1r8t3> question: would it be possible to mess around with icecast2s' relay ability to kind of cheat a peelable streaming thing? eg: client needs a bitrate lower than what is available, client tells server this, server relays to itself, or other available server, at a required bitrate, server forwards new stream info to client and so on.

Best Regards Dave St John Mediacast1 Administration (720) 641-7586 ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Blackwell To: icecast at xiph.org Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: [icecast] peelable streaming

question: would it be possible to mess around with icecast2s' relay ability to kind of cheat a peelable streaming thing? eg: client needs a bitrate lower than what is available, client tells server this, server relays to itself, or other available server, at a required bitrate, server forwards new stream info to client and so on. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rok.ruzic at telemach.net Sun Nov 24 17:56:49 2002 From: rok.ruzic at telemach.net (Rox de Gabba) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:56:49 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Streaming radio docs In-Reply-To: <006501c29360$0f937260$6501a8c0@anaconda> Message-ID: <3DE112E1.4040303@telemach.net> I'm trying to make a ices/icecast streaming radio with encoding from soundcard. I did a lot of googling and couldn't find any docs other then icecast/ices docs, that are included in the source packages. Are there any other docs that i should read? Is there a howto outthere somewhere?

On Monday 25 November 2002 05:48 pm, Tyler Knott wrote: > I'm new to this and I want to know what tools I will need and how to > compile Icecast2. I have tried OddSock's port of the server but it > appears to be out of date and it crashes my computer. The documentation > included with the Alpha-1 release of Icecast2 says it will compile on > Win32 but doesn't say how. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Vorbis: Open, Free Audio :: http://www.vorbis.com

>Michael > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.

4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -ldl -lc -L/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lsocket -lnsl -lm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -R/usr/lib Undefined first referenced symbol in file inet_aton ../libshout/.libs/libices.al(sock.lo) ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to ices collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [ices] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

>Delivered-To: icecast-outgoing at xiph.org >Delivered-To: icecast-majordomo at xiph.org >Delivered-To: icecast at xiph.org >Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:39:31 -0800 (PST) >From: David M Dennis >X-X-Sender: dmd at grace.speakeasy.net >To: icecast at xiph.org >Subject: [icecast] compiling ices on solaris 9 / sparc >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2002 23:39:49.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B1C4810:01C28849] > >Hello, > >Perhaps foolishly I am trying to migrate my icecast 1.3.12 / ices 0.2.3 / >LAME-3.92 from linux to solaris on sparc. icecast and LAME compiled, but >when I tried to get ices to build the following occurred. I tried to >confirm all needed libs, but must have not found something. >Any help appreciated! Thanks... error follows. -Dave D > >$ make >make all-recursive >Making all in libshout >make all-recursive >Making all in doc >Making all in src >Making all in playlist >/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o ices ices.o log.o setup.o >stream.o util.o mp3.o cue.o metadata.o id3.o signals.o reencode.o ices_config.o >playlist/libplaylist.a ../libshout/libices.la -lnsl -lmp3lame -R >/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE >/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a >-L/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -lsocket -lnsl -ldl -lm >-lc -L/usr/lib -R/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lm -lsocket -lnsl -lm >gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o ices ices.o log.o setup.o stream.o util.o mp3.o cue.o >metadata.o id3.o signals.o reencode.o ices_config.o playlist/libplaylist.a >../libshout/.libs/libices.al /usr/local/lib/libmp3lame.so >/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a >-L/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -ldl -lc -L/usr/lib -lxml2 >-lz -lsocket -lnsl -lm -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib >-R/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE -R/usr/lib >Undefined first referenced > symbol in file >inet_aton ../libshout/.libs/libices.al(sock.lo) >ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to ices >collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >*** Error code 1 >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ices' >Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3/src >*** Error code 1 >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' >Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3/src >*** Error code 1 >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' >Current working directory /home/dmd/src/ices-0.2.3 >*** Error code 1 >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive-am' > > >+------------------------- >+ Dave Dennis >+ Seattle, WA >+ dmd at speakeasy.org >+ http://www.dmdennis.com >+------------------------- > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at pts.tele2.co.uk Tue Nov 26 17:19:49 2002 From: karl at pts.tele2.co.uk (Karl Heyes) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:19:49 +0000 Subject: [icecast] compiling ices on solaris 9 / sparc In-Reply-To: <200211261558.gAQFw2X6018346@ecook.akibia.com> Message-ID: <20021126171949.GC868@bogus.hackers.club> On 2002.11.26 15:58 Edward Cook wrote: > Hello, > > I am also trying to get ices working on Solaris. > > thanks in advance > > ED > > > 4-solaris-64int/CORE -lperl -ldl -lc -L/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lsocket -lnsl > -lm > -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib > -R/usr/perl5/5.6.1/lib/sun4-solaris-64int/CORE > > -R/usr/lib > Undefined first referenced > symbol in file > inet_aton ../libshout/.libs/libices.al(sock.lo) > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to ices > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[3]: *** [ices] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3/src' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/export/home/ecook/ices-0.2.3' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 You need a #define for solaris for this. in ices-0.2.3/libshout/sock.h try adding the following lines #ifdef __solaris #define inet_aton(a,b) inet_pton(AF_INET, (a), (b)) #endif Check that __solaris is correct it might be __solaris__ for instance A configure check should be done for this but it should be sufficient for you. karl. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mr_radar at charter.net Tue Nov 26 21:58:42 2002 From: mr_radar at charter.net (Tyler Knott) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:58:42 -0600 Subject: [icecast] How to complie Icecast2 on Win32 In-Reply-To: <3DE2D128.2080803@charter.net> Message-ID: <3DE3EE92.5040304@charter.net> I just have one more thing, how do I get my Vorbis stream listed on yp.icecast.org? The configuration file for the server has that as the yellow-pages server and I checked the 'List on YP' box in the Oddcast config dialog. Also, is it possible to list a Vorbis stream on yp.shoutcast.com? And if so, will it work? Because it looks like the guys over at Nullsoft are planning to add native Vorbis support to their Winamp DSP. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Wed Nov 27 00:05:26 2002 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:05:26 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] How to complie Icecast2 on Win32 In-Reply-To: <3DE3EE92.5040304@charter.net> Message-ID: Hi: AFAIK, the directory stuff is not yet implemented. -- Geoff Shang ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Hello, this is the mailing list anti-spam filter at Xiph.Org. We need you to confirm your e-mail message with the subject of "RE: [icecast] directory servers". Please send a message to the following address, or simply use your mailer's "Reply" feature. icecast+confirm+1037921402.17606.bab310 at xiph.org Rather than allow only list subscribers to post to Xiph.Org mailing lists, we've set up a whitelist system by which anyone can post, but the first message from an unknown email address must be confirmed to verify that's it's not email from a spam robot. Your confirmation reply will add this email address to our whitelist, and allow you to post freely to Xiph.Org mailing lists from the confirmed address. [ This notice was generated by TMDA/0.58 (http://tmda.sf.net/), an automated junk-mail reduction system. ] --- Enclosed is a copy of your message. From scottprive at earthlink.net Thu Nov 21 23:29:54 2002 From: scottprive at earthlink.net (Scott Prive) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:29:54 -0800 Subject: [icecast] directory servers In-Reply-To: <[icecast] directory servers> Message-ID: > www.icecast.org contains information regarding the icecast > 1.x releases. > Development on that series has stopped in favor of Icecast2 > and Ices2, for Are you serious??? The development state of "Icecast 1" vs. Icecast2 has *nothing* to do with the web site. Not from a user perspective anyways. What's infuriating is you're not even ASKING for help.. you're justifying NEGLECT. The *.icecast.org web family is ABANDONED. LISTEN to your users; you won't hear a PEEP from the people who simply hit "Back" on their webbrowser will you? I'd have more sympathy for your position if you said you were in dire need of volunteers to impliment some improvements you have in mind, but that's not what you're saying. Here are some constructive suggestions: 1) Fix the directory server, or TAKE IT DOWN. My guess is there has been no decision to take it down, and for whatevr reason, no one wants to FIX it. If the directory server protocol has changed in Icecast2, then consider running an Ices2 directory server. If the Icecast2 directory code is not yet ready.. then it's probably premature to declare Icecast1 dead isn't it? 2) Are there NO Icecast2 issues worthy of a FAQ? 3) Are there NO Icecast2 Development milestones & success which are newsworthy? 4) How about links to other applications that have dependencies on Icecast? You know.. "community" stuff. 5) If nothing happens for a very long time, just say so. Every few months a web note of "Hello... we're still here..." will be informative, since it indicates someone cares (and shows you still know tha password) If I sound unfairly harsh, it's because of justifying the state of the website being due to the Icecast1 to Icecast2 transition. Seriously... if you need help, put up a "Help Wanted" webpage with a list of many small TODO items people could claim. It's good to hear there is work on updated web pages. Looking forward to it. :-) Peace, Scott

live until 2:00 broadcast mp3 file instead of live until 3:00 broadcast live and capture 1 hour of it for tomorrows 2:00 to 3:00 spot eems to be a couple of products that will do this but I cant find one that I can do this from a cron job I am currently using darkice, shout ( yes I want to use ices but it doesn't like the dump files from icecast ) and wget

--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From zazemoa at libertysurf.fr Thu Nov 28 14:35:31 2002 From: zazemoa at libertysurf.fr (Zazemoa) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:35:31 +0100 Subject: [icecast] NEWBIE QUESTION - ERROR [BAD PASSWORD] In-Reply-To: <000001c290a2$0d9893c0$0301a8c0@blitztechnology.net> Message-ID: <3DE4AFF70002BCEA@mail10.pds.libertysurf.fr> hello, i have the same problem than Lukas Bulwahn Le Mercredi 20 Novembre 2002 15:30, "Mitchell Smith" a ?crit : > The Debian Icecast server is compiled with password crypt support, which > means you can't put the password in in cleartext. You will have to > > apt-get install makepasswd > > and do something like > > echo "password" > passwd.tmp > makepassword --crypt --clearfrom=passwd.tmp omeone would know the right command!?... i tryed with mkpasswd but it didn't give me a password , i have an error (mkpasswd: option non reconnue ?--crypt)? can i make my password just like that: mkpassword mypassword that gives me something like that: 4LjU5LpF45... is it that i have to paste on my icecast.conf > > and paste the encrypted password in to your icecast.conf file. > > Hope this helps. > yes that help me... > From Mitchell > thanks for help, you would give me... patrice --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lynx at sanity.luchs.at Thu Nov 28 18:27:28 2002 From: lynx at sanity.luchs.at (Rene Pfeiffer) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:27:28 +0100 Subject: [icecast] NEWBIE QUESTION - ERROR [BAD PASSWORD] In-Reply-To: <3DE4AFF70002BCEA@mail10.pds.libertysurf.fr> Message-ID: <20021128182728.GO9399@anubis.luchs.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2002 at 1535 +0100, Zazemoa appeared and said: > Le Mercredi 20 Novembre 2002 15:30, "Mitchell Smith" a ?crit : > > The Debian Icecast server is compiled with password crypt support, which > > means you can't put the password in in cleartext. You will have to > > > > apt-get install makepasswd > > > > and do something like > > > > echo "password" > passwd.tmp > > makepassword --crypt --clearfrom=passwd.tmp > > someone would know the right command!?... i tryed with mkpasswd but it didn't > give me a password , i have an error (mkpasswd: option non reconnue ?--crypt)? Try generating a password with Apache's htpasswd command. It should create usable crypt()ed password strings. Cheers, Lynx - -- GNU/Linux Manages! - Linux Solution Provider RP551296-NICAT - Free Software for Open Minds -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE95mAOeMu5lRpXJ7kRAjFNAKCut2HBe1C9DnkSQNAadh8xPJ3odgCg0Uvg iedxjVZcpvDo0dJORngJyy0= =GXVQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk Fri Nov 29 16:21:39 2002 From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:21:39 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Transcoding Ogg streams? Message-ID: <3DE79413.5090503@strath.ac.uk> Hi. I'm confused about one of the statements on http://www.vorbis.com/faq.psp#unique I have a server using Ices2 as the source. I provide it with Ogg's encoded at quality 5, and I get it to provide lower bitrate streams like so: ices.xml --snip-- --snip-- 44100 2 0 --snip-- --snip-- 22000 1 1 20000 etc etc... And it works fine. My question is this: From the link above, it says: "Vorbis has bitrate scaling - a feature that lets you adjust the bitrate of a Vorbis file or stream without reencoding" Does this mean that Ices is _not_ re-encoding the vorbis stream, but actually just magically adjusting it's bitrate? Or is it just doing ogg->pcm->ogg like I thought it would? If that is the case, is there a less-processor intensive way of 'transcoding' and ogg stream? Ices seems to use a lot of processor doing what I have above. Thanks Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From karl at pts.tele2.co.uk Fri Nov 29 16:39:50 2002 From: karl at pts.tele2.co.uk (Karl Heyes) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:39:50 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Transcoding Ogg streams? In-Reply-To: <3DE79413.5090503@strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20021129163950.GE848@bogus.hackers.club> On 2002.11.29 16:21 Leo Currie wrote: > Hi. > > I'm confused about one of the statements on > http://www.vorbis.com/faq.psp#unique .... > My question is this: > From the link above, it says: > "Vorbis has bitrate scaling - a feature that lets you adjust the bitrate > of a Vorbis file or stream without reencoding" > Does this mean that Ices is _not_ re-encoding the vorbis stream, but > actually just magically adjusting it's bitrate? No, ices is reencoding. Bitrate peeling needs more work on it to get it right. The theory is that your current files (post some rc release) will be capable of being peeled. > Or is it just doing ogg->pcm->ogg like I thought it would? yep. > If that is the case, is there a less-processor intensive way of > 'transcoding' and ogg stream? Ices seems to use a lot of processor doing > what I have above. bitrate peeling should help a great deal but until it's sorted then decode-encode has to be done, which as you have mentioned is fairly processor intensive. karl. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From leo.currie at strath.ac.uk Fri Nov 29 17:28:30 2002 From: leo.currie at strath.ac.uk (Leo Currie) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 17:28:30 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Transcoding Ogg streams? In-Reply-To: <20021129163950.GE848@bogus.hackers.club> Message-ID: <3DE7A3BE.4030005@strath.ac.uk> Ahh.. Thanks !! :) Leo

Karl Heyes wrote: > On 2002.11.29 16:21 Leo Currie wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I'm confused about one of the statements on >> http://www.vorbis.com/faq.psp#unique > > .... > >> My question is this: >> From the link above, it says: >> "Vorbis has bitrate scaling - a feature that lets you adjust the >> bitrate of a Vorbis file or stream without reencoding" >> Does this mean that Ices is _not_ re-encoding the vorbis stream, but >> actually just magically adjusting it's bitrate? > > > No, ices is reencoding. Bitrate peeling needs more work on it to get it > right. The theory is that your current files (post some rc release) will > be capable of being peeled. > >> Or is it just doing ogg->pcm->ogg like I thought it would? > > > yep. > >> If that is the case, is there a less-processor intensive way of >> 'transcoding' and ogg stream? Ices seems to use a lot of processor >> doing what I have above. > > > bitrate peeling should help a great deal but until it's sorted then > decode-encode has to be done, which as you have mentioned is fairly > processor intensive. > > karl. > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.