From harvey at buskers.org Mon Jul 1 13:54:52 2002
From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:54:52 -0400
Subject: [icecast] about playlist
In-Reply-To: <39162058.B9728BCD@rollmops.com.br>
Message-ID: <20020701095452.A19431@buskers.org>
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:03:05AM +0000, Brito wrote:
>
> I have the icecast with some ices working perfectly in a Linux server,
> mp3
> files are reproduced with no problems, I'm quite satisfied with it but I
>
> have a little doubt!
>
> When users click the link at the HTML page, their default player (like
> xmms,
> winamp... etc) doesn't load.
>
> That's how I've made the link:
>
>
Almost right. The playlist.m3u is a audio/x-mpegurl file that you web
server serves, it is a text file that contains the link for your stream.
So in you apache config put a line like so:
AddType audio/x-mpegurl .m3u
then make a m3u file with a text editor which that conatins one line
that points to your streams like so:
http://my.server:8000/mountpoint
obviously using the real names for you icecast server and mountpoint. Then on the webpage make the a href tag point to the m3u file like so:
(assuming you called your
m3u file playlist.m3u)
That should get you going.
Harvey
>
> How can I configure ices for it can execute the XMMS automatically on
> client's machine?
>
> Thanks in advance for your attention
>
> Patricia Brito
>
>
>
>
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From lemmingsml at nerim.fr Tue Jul 2 22:16:04 2002
From: lemmingsml at nerim.fr (EISELE Pascal)
Date: 03 Jul 2002 00:16:04 +0200
Subject: [icecast] quelques questions à propos d'icecast et autres outils associés...
In-Reply-To: <3D0DEC8F0031CE79@mail.libertysurf.net>
Message-ID: <1025648165.716.4.camel@badamiga>
Bonjour,
Je ne veux pas te d?courager mais sache qu'il te faudra ?norement de
bande passante si tu veux pouvoir diffuser ta radio a un grand nombre de
personne. Pour te donner un petite id?e, avec ma connection ADSL
"normal", je ne peux accueillir qu'une seule personne (et encore quand
tout va bien !) en haute qualit? (128 kbit) et 4 personnes (en
simultan?e) en tres basse qualit? (28 kbit).
Je profite de l'ocasion pour te dire que si par hasard ton projet
consiste a monter une radio en ligne diffusant de la techno, je suis
d?j? sur le coup mais je n'ai rien contre un coup de main. J'ai un
budget pour la bande passante car je fais ca pour le compte d'une
discotheque. Le site provisoir de la radio est http://radio.nwolf.org
(la radio est desactive pour le moment car c'est sur ma connection
personnnel). C'est juste un d?but mais ca va avancer...
Le sam 29/06/2002 ? 22:25, zazemo@ a ?crit :
> bonjour, hello, buenas dias,
>
> ?a ne fait pas longtemps que je suis sur cette mailing list, J'?sp?re que
> quelqu'un parle le fran?ais car techniquement je suis pas dou? ni en anglais
> ni en d'autres langues...
> it isn't a long time i 'm on the mailing list, i hope someone is speaking
> french, because i don't write very well others languages about technical
> probl?ms...
> no hace ademas tiempo que soy en la mailing list, espero que alguien hablas
> frances porque las problemas technicas en otras lengua me da muchas
> dificultas...
>
> Je suis un newbie en tout ce qui est serveur radio sur internet. J'ai un
> projet
> personnel qui est de pouvoir maitriser cette technique qui permet de cr?er sa
> propre radio afin de pouvoir creer une ou des radios associatives voire des
> radios libres sur le net (une fois que je maitriserai cette technique je
> cr?erai un groupe ou forum afin qu'il puisse y avoir association avec des
> gens int?r?ss?s par de la radio libre et la cr?ation d'?missions), mais je
> n'ai pas encore cette technique... j'ai pourtant ?ssay? de configurer
> icecast,
> ices, liveice et notlame, mais je ne sais vraiment pas par o? commencer et
> surtout comment le configurer, disons que je n'ai pas le mode d'emploi...
> j'ai ?t? voir sur diff?rents site qui expliquent comment faire, mais m?me
> avec ?a je n'y suis pas arriv?...
> si une personne pouvait m'expliquer ce qui sert ? quoi et comment configurer,
> s'en servir et autre infos de base, car je ne suis pas un technicien
> informatique et je ne connais pas les petits trucs ? savoir...
> Je crois que je dois d'abord encoder ce que je veux mettre ? l'?coute (avec
> notlame je crois) puis cr?er mon propre serveur sur ma machine afin de le
> tester si il fonctionne(je crois que icecast fait le serveur, et je dois
> verifier sur http://localhost:8000 ) puis une fois v?rifi? et qu'il
> fonctionne, je dois faire une liaison sur le serveur http://www.icecast.org/
> plutot qu'en local... pour le moment je n'arrive pas ? encoder avec notlame
> je comprend pas trop les options, quand je lance liveice il m'indique:
> "2954:Error: Line In mode *and* no soundcard??????? Eeejit!", et donc
> logiquement le reste ne suit pas non plus...
> peut etre qu'un mail pr?cedent r?pond ? mes questions...
> ou peut ?tre qu'un site autre que http://www.erreur404.org/shoutcast/ ou bien
> http://www.icecast.org/getstarted.html me permettra de me debrouiller...
> Je pr?cise que je suis sur linux...
> J'attend toutes r?ponses...
>
> merci pour ceux qui auront un moment pour r?pondre ? un ignorant...
>
> zazemoa
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From ab60602002 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 00:26:34 2002
From: ab60602002 at yahoo.com (DR. MRS. MARYAM ABACHA)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:26:34 +1100
Subject: [icecast] SAVE MY SOUL
Message-ID: <20020703102539.4F65718D0B5@motherfish.xiph.org>
ATTN: CHAIRMAN/CEO
DEAR SIR,
HOW ARE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY? HOPE FINE. HOW IS YOUR
BUSINESS? HOPE EVERYTHING IS VERY GOOD.
I AM MRS MARIAM ABACHA, THE WIDOW OF THE LATE GEN.
SANI ABACHA WHO WAS THE FORMER NIGERIAN PRESIDENT AND
WHO DIED RECENTLY IN OFFICE AS A RESULT OF CARDIAC
ARREST.
SINCE THE DEATH OF MY HUSBAND MY FAMILY HAS BEEN UNDER
RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT AND OUR BANK ACCOUNTS BOTH
LOCAL AND FOREIGN HAS BEEN FROZEN BY THIS PRESENT
NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT. ALSO SOME MONEY IN BOTH FOREIGN
AND LOCAL CURRENCIES ABOUT $700MILLION UNITED STATES
DOLLARS AND DUTCH 450 MILLION DUTCH MARK ALL IN CASH
WERE RECOVERED FROM OUR APARTMENT.
WHEN MY LATE HUSBAND (LATE PRESIDENT SANI ABACHA) WAS
IN REGIME, WITH THE HELP OF SOME BUSINESSMEN, HE WAS ABLE TO MOVE SOME SUIT CASES CONTAINING FOREIGN CURRENCY TOTALING US$60 MILLION UNITED STATES
DOLLARS WITH A SECURITY COMPANY IN NIGERIA FOR SAFE KEEPING.
I, PERSONALLY APPEAL TO YOU SIR, WITH THE MERCIES OF
GOD TO ASSIST US IN TAKING AWAY THIS MONEY FROM THE
SECURITY COMPANY IN NIGERIA TO A SAFE BANK ACCOUNT FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSE, SINCE I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING NOW THAT I AM UNDER HOUSE ARREST.
I, AND MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY HAVE AGREED TO LET YOU
HAVE 20% OF THE TOTAL FUNDS FOR WHATEVER ASSISTANCEYOU HAVE DECIDED TO RENDER .
PLEASE BE PREPARED TO ASSIST IN CLAMING THIS FUND AS WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT YOU AS THE BENEFICIARY OF THESE BOXES WITH THE DOCUMENTS IN OUR HANDS.
PLEASE CONTACT MY FAMILY LAWYER BARR, TABANSI DASUKI. ON THE ABOVE TELEPHONE NUMBER 234-8033-275-941,EMAIL dasuki77 at justice.com TO DISCUSS THE MODALITIES OF THIS TRANSACTION.
HOWEVER,PLEASE TREAT THIS AS A TOP SECRET AND BE PREPARED TO DO MORE LUCRATIVE BUSINESS WITH US. SIR I AM GIVING YOU 100% ASSURANCE THAT THERE IS NO RISK INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION. PLEASE TRUST US AS WE HAVE ALREADY TRUSTED YOU.
SIR YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WILL, HELP ME AND MY FAMILY.
AWAITING YOUR URGENT AND FAVOURABLE RESPONSE.
BEST REGARDS.
MRS. MARIAM ABACHA
PLEASE TREAT WITH CARE AND TOP SECRET. GOD BLESS YOU.
__________________________________________________
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From amakaego at mailcity.com Wed Jul 3 01:14:22 2002
From: amakaego at mailcity.com (DR. MRS. MARYAM ABACHA)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:14:22 +1100
Subject: [icecast] A FRIEND IN NEED
Message-ID: <20020703111322.E6BF818D0C0@motherfish.xiph.org>
From: Maryam Abacha
c/o Barrister AMAKA EGO
ATTN: THE PRESIDENT/CEO.
I am MRS. MARIAM ABACHA, the window of the late GEN. SANI ABACHA former Nigerian military Head of state who died mysteriously
as a result of Cardiac Arrest. Since after my husband 'death my family is under restriction of movement and that not withstanding.
We are being molested. Policed and our Bank Account both here and abroad are being frozen by the Nigerian Civilian Government.
Furthermore, my elder son is in detention by the Nigerian Civilian interrogation about my husband's asset and some vital documents.
Following the recent discovery of my husband's Bank Account by the Nigerian Government with Swiss bank in which the huge
sum US$700 Million and D M 450 Million Dollars was deposited, this is the reason I have decided to move the
sum of US$40.5 Million Dollars which was secretly deposited and is sealed in three metal Boxes for security reason.
I therefore personally,
appeal to you seriously and religiously for urgent assistance to move this money into your country where I believe it will be
safe since I cannot leave the country due to the restriction of movement imposed on the members of my family by the Nigerian
Government. You can contact me through my family lawyer/ Attorney on his e-mail amakaego at lycos.com and my lawyer shall
arrange with you for a face to face meeting outside Nigeria in order to liaise with you toward effective
completion of this transactions. However, arrangement have been put in place to move this money out of the country either
Europe,Asia or Africa in a secret vault through a security company here in Nigeria. who have affiliate offices in
Europe,Asia and Africa and as soon as you indicate your interest my Lawyer shall send you the Deposit Certificate of
the Luggage and other related documents so that you can help to claim the Luggage. Conclusively,
we have agreed to offer you 20% of the total sum 70% is to be held on trust by you until we can decide on a suitable
business investment in your company and 10% for all incid ental expenses .Subsequent to our free movement by the
Nigerian Government. Please reply urgently and treat with absolute confidentiality and sincerity through the above E-mail address.
You should note that even if you are not interested you should not let out this proposal to anybody
whatever. You should urgently get across to my Attorney so that he can give you the necessary advice on the procedure
and requirements for this transaction.
Best Regards,
DR. MRS. MARIAM ABACHA
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From steve at steem.com Thu Jul 4 03:42:26 2002
From: steve at steem.com (Steve Grecni)
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:42:26 -0400
Subject: [icecast] icecast2/darkice
Message-ID: <3D23C422.6020600@steem.com>
Ok, I'm using icecast2 (latest cvs as of maybe 3 hours ago) and darkice
.9.1 all compiled under debian/sid with gcc 2.95.4. Everything works
ok, as long as I'm using ogg123 to listen to my stream.
using xmms (1.27 in in debian sid) it'll buffer up to 50% and then start
over again seemingly indefinitely. with winamp 2.80 in winxp, I get
nothing but silence, I'd normally thing I was getting nothing, but I can
see a steady stream of data on my network graph, the winamp title shows
HTTP 200/OK.
Does anyone have any insight into what's going on? Or know how to get
more feed back to figure out this prob? It seems that winamp and xmms
have exactly squat for a debug mode for normal users.
Is anyone else using this setup with success?
--- begin icecast.xml ---
-- end icecast.xml --
-- begin darkice.cfg --
[general]
duration = 0 # duration of encoding, in seconds. 0 means
forever
bufferSecs = 4 # size of internal slip buffer, in seconds
# this section describes the audio input that will be streamed
[input]
device = /dev/dsp # OSS DSP soundcard device for the audio input
sampleRate = 44100 # sample rate in Hz. try 11025, 22050 or 44100
bitsPerSample = 16 # bits per sample. try 16
channel = 2 # channels. 1 = mono, 2 = stereo
[icecast2-0]
format = vorbis # format of the stream: ogg vorbis
bitrate = 64 # bitrate of the stream sent to the server
server = pimpbot.qooqle.com
# host name of the server
port = 8000 # port of the IceCast2 server, usually 8000
password = thepass # source password to the IceCast2 server
mountPoint = roomjuice # mount point of this stream on the IceCast2
server
name = Room Juice
# name of the stream
description = gid's Room Juice
# description of the stream
url = http://pimpbot.qooqle.com/roomjuice/
# URL related to the stream
genre = Techno,Electronic,Jungle,Trance,Rock # genre of the
stream
public = no # advertise this stream?
lowpass = -1
highpass = 0
-- end darkice.cfg --
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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Jul 4 04:00:38 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 14:00:38 +1000
Subject: [icecast] icecast2/darkice
In-Reply-To: <3D23C422.6020600@steem.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020704140038.4124cbd0@mail.labyrinth.net.au>
At 11:42 PM 7/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Ok, I'm using icecast2 (latest cvs as of maybe 3 hours ago) and darkice
>.9.1 all compiled under debian/sid with gcc 2.95.4. Everything works
>ok, as long as I'm using ogg123 to listen to my stream.
>
>using xmms (1.27 in in debian sid) it'll buffer up to 50% and then start
>over again seemingly indefinitely. with winamp 2.80 in winxp, I get
>nothing but silence, I'd normally thing I was getting nothing, but I can
>see a steady stream of data on my network graph, the winamp title shows
>HTTP 200/OK.
You're hitting a (common) bug that a lot of clients have.
Make sure your mountpoint ends with .ogg to avoid the bug. (ices2 issues
a warning if it isn't, because this is a common problem)
Michael
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From adamsibru at eudoramail.com Thu Jul 4 10:48:28 2002
From: adamsibru at eudoramail.com (DR.ADAMS IBRU)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:48:28 +0100
Subject: [icecast] URGENT BUSINESS
Message-ID: <20020704104619.153A618D0D6@motherfish.xiph.org>
Attn: PRESIDENT/CEO.
REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP
First, I must solicit your confidence in this transaction; this is by
virtue of its nature as being utterly CONFIDENTIAL. I am Dr.ADAMS IBRU,the
assistant Director (Banking and Treasury Operations) with the
UNION BANK OF NIGEIRA PLC, (UBN) Lagos, Nigeria.
I came to know of you in my private search for a reliable and reputable
person to handle this confidential transaction, which involves the
transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign Bank Account.
THE PROPOSAL
A foreigner, Late Engr. Johnson Creek, an Oil Merchant/Contractor with
the Federal Government of Nigeria, until his death five years ago in an
air crash aboard the ill fated ADC airline, operated various accounts with
us here at the UNION BANK OF NIGERIA PLC, Lagos, and he also had a deposit
cash call account to the tune of US$26M(TWENTY SIX MILLION, UNITED STATES
DOLLARS). Since his tragic death the bank has been expecting his next of
kin to come and claim this money to no success. Naturally when a situation
as this comes up in the bank, the money will be reconverted and
transferred into the suspense account of the bank for further protocols.
It is on the premise of this money being converted and some directors in
the management sharing this money among themselves, I have decided to
solicit for your permission to have you stand as next-of-kin to Late Engr.
Johnson Creek so that this money is paid into your account abroad. The
deposit account has US$26M in it.
All documents and proofs to enable you get this money out will be
procured by us and as such, we are assuring you of a 100% risk free
involvement. For competently receiving this money for us you will be
given 20% of the entire sum, while 75% will be for my partners and me and
the balance of 5% has been mapped out to use in repaying any expenses
incurred by both parties in the course of this business.
We want to assure you that all necessary modalities have been taken care
of to see this business wrapped up within 21working days from date claim
commencement.
If this proposal is OK by you and you do not wish to take undue advantage
of the trust bestowed on you/Company, then kindly get to me immediately
furnishing me with your confidential telephone, fax numbers.
Be informed to provide a virile and trusted accounts were this money
would be transferred into, in order wards, you should be sole signatory to
this account. You are advised to provide free accounts (short of cash) so
that you don't get biased about our intent for obvious reasons.
Thank you in advance for your anticipated co-operation.
Yours faithfully,
Dr.ADAMS IBRU
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From steve at steem.com Thu Jul 4 15:24:28 2002
From: steve at steem.com (Steve Grecni)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 11:24:28 -0400
Subject: [icecast] icecast2/darkice
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020704140038.4124cbd0@mail.labyrinth.net.au>
Message-ID: <3D2468AC.5010904@steem.com>
Michael Smith wrote:
> At 11:42 PM 7/3/02 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Ok, I'm using icecast2 (latest cvs as of maybe 3 hours ago) and darkice
>>.9.1 all compiled under debian/sid with gcc 2.95.4. Everything works
>>ok, as long as I'm using ogg123 to listen to my stream.
>>
>>using xmms (1.27 in in debian sid) it'll buffer up to 50% and then start
>>over again seemingly indefinitely. with winamp 2.80 in winxp, I get
>>nothing but silence, I'd normally thing I was getting nothing, but I can
>>see a steady stream of data on my network graph, the winamp title shows
>>HTTP 200/OK.
>
>
> You're hitting a (common) bug that a lot of clients have.
> Make sure your mountpoint ends with .ogg to avoid the bug. (ices2 issues
> a warning if it isn't, because this is a common problem)
Doh, I looked for a good hour or two trying to track that down. Glad I
just asked and didn't needlessly spend longer than I had to. It works
great now, thanks!
I guess I'll have to take to look at xmms.org and winamp.com now to see
if they're aware of the problem, I did a bit of digging at bugs.xmms.org
before my initial email, but didn't find anything.
Thanks again.
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From: info at loquequierasya.com.com (LoQueQuierasYA.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:57:32 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Solo para ti!!
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From den at altern.org Fri Jul 5 21:26:10 2002
From: den at altern.org (Denis)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:26:10 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast problem
Message-ID: vacarme:/home/denis# shout collectifs.org -P ********* -p testplaylist
1.4.0 - www.icecast.org
ERROR connecting to [collectifs.org:8000]
connect:: Connection refused
My config is the basic at the execption of this changes:
-In the icecast.conf
location Just west of Mars
rp_email den at altern.org
server_url http://collectifs.org
use_meta_data 0
streamurllock 0
streamtitletemplate %s
streamurl http://collectifs.org
nametemplate %s
desctemplate %s
encoder_password ********
admin_password ********
oper_password ********
-->>In the south.conf
erver_name localhost
port 8000
password ********
mount default
url http://collectifs.org
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From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Jul 6 00:33:32 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 10:33:32 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Icecast problem
In-Reply-To:
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From eric.gianquinto at easynet.be Sat Jul 6 13:03:21 2002
From: eric.gianquinto at easynet.be (Eric Gianquinto)
Date: 06 Jul 2002 15:03:21 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast problem
In-Reply-To:
--
PGP public key on public key servers
http://www.pgpi.org/services/keys/keyservers/
PGP-fingerprint B82A 5A2C 9104 A8FE A08D 2B5F E4E2 318E AE46 7D81
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From ma_ab at writeme.com Sun Jul 7 01:39:13 2002
From: ma_ab at writeme.com (MARYAM ABACHA)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 03:39:13 +0200
Subject: [icecast] correspond
Message-ID: <20020707023802.12E6618D066@motherfish.xiph.org>
DEAR SIR.
I am HAJIYA MARYAM ABACHA, wife of the late Nigeria
Head of
State,General Sanni Abacha who died on the 8th of
June, 1998 while still on active
duty. l am contacting you in view of the fact that we
will be of great
assistance to each other likeness developing a cordial
relationship.
I currently have within my reach the sum of FIFTY TWO
MILLION US
Dollars (US$52,000,000.00) cash which l intend to use
for investment, like
Real Estate Development or import/export business
specifically in your
country. This money came as a payback contract deal
between my late
husband and a Russian Firm on our countries
multi-billion dollars Ajaokuta
Steel Plant Project.
The Russian Partners returned my husband's share of
USD$52,000,000.00
after the death of my husband and lodged in my
husband's security
company of which l am director right now, the new
Civilian Government have
intensified their probe on my husband's financial and
oil company. In
view of these, l acted fast to
withdraw the US$52,000,000.00 from the company's vault
and deposited in
another private security company vault within the
country.
I have since declared the Security Company bankrupt.
No record ever
existed concerning the money traceable by the
government because there is
no documentation showing that we received the money
from the Russian.
Due to the current situation in the country concerning
government
attitude towards my family, it has become quite
impossible for me to make
use of this money within. Let me refer you to the
front page of This Day
Newspapers of 10th March 2001. You can check it
through their website :
www.thisdayonline.com , click on archives,8th. june,
2001) The present
government in Nigeria had frozen and seized all my
bank accounts both
here in Nigeria and abroad. Thus consent l shall
expect you to contact
me urgently to enable us discuss in detail about this
transaction.
Bearing in mind that your assistance is needed to
transfer this fund, l
proposed a percentage of 17% of the total sum to you
for the expected
service and assistance, 10% for offsetting minor
expenses incurred in
the course of this transaction.
Your urgent response is highly needed as to stop
further contacts. All
correspondence must be by the email address above. l
must use this
opportunity to implore you to exercise the utmost
indulgence to keep this
matter extraordinarily confidential whatever your
decision while await your prompt response.
NB: Because of the security being mounted on the
members of my family,
l have decided that this transaction be kept in
utmost secrecy,
remember to include your private Telephone or fax
number for easy
communication.
Best Regards.
DR. (HAJIYA) MARYAM ABACHA.
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From guido at spaanbroek.nl Sun Jul 7 03:16:26 2002
From: guido at spaanbroek.nl (Guido)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 05:16:26 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <1025960601.1890.16.camel@wks-lap1>
Message-ID: <000001c22564$ae9c4770$6401a8c0@AC3101337>
Hi people,
The last days I was hacking on my linux box. I must say it is a
clarkconnectbox, which I find pretty cool, a lot of work I don't have to do
myself!!!
I got icecast and ices working (check out http://213.84.15.154:8000, but I
don't really offer broadband) Some day I'll getliveice working but for now
you there's only a small collection of mp3's, I'll different styles)
But I write this mail because I'm more interesting in streaming video. A
friend does it all with macs and with the good old video recorder (and a
mixer). But what are the initiatives for streaming and mixing video for
linux/unix (basic solutions)? I have a hard time to find out, no real result
yet. Does anybody of you have any good hints?
All the best to you,
GuidoS
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From robeb at keepthevibe.com Sun Jul 7 03:42:16 2002
From: robeb at keepthevibe.com (Rob Burris)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 21:42:16 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure of the
exact link, but here's a starting point
http://www.realnetworks.com/
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> Hi people,
>
> The last days I was hacking on my linux box. I must say it is a
> clarkconnectbox, which I find pretty cool, a lot of work I don't have to
do
> myself!!!
> I got icecast and ices working (check out http://213.84.15.154:8000, but I
> don't really offer broadband) Some day I'll getliveice working but for now
> you there's only a small collection of mp3's, I'll different styles)
>
> But I write this mail because I'm more interesting in streaming video. A
> friend does it all with macs and with the good old video recorder (and a
> mixer). But what are the initiatives for streaming and mixing video for
> linux/unix (basic solutions)? I have a hard time to find out, no real
result
> yet. Does anybody of you have any good hints?
>
> All the best to you,
>
> GuidoS
>
>
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From Webmaster at chat-radio.de Sun Jul 7 05:26:28 2002
From: Webmaster at chat-radio.de (Webmaster at chat-radio.de)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 07:26:28 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <000701c22568$4a14d160$3301a8c0@robeb>
Message-ID: <001901c22576$de02f6a0$ac4bfea9@front>
Real Server is *not* an free product!
It takes more than 500 Euro for a 50 Connections a time / Licence.
Stefan Jacobi
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> Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure of
the
> exact link, but here's a starting point
>
> http://www.realnetworks.com/
>
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From robeb at keepthevibe.com Sun Jul 7 05:30:43 2002
From: robeb at keepthevibe.com (Rob Burris)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:30:43 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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http://licensekey.realnetworks.com/rnforms/products/servers/eval/?ulf=bas
it's free for one year ;)
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> Real Server is *not* an free product!
> It takes more than 500 Euro for a 50 Connections a time / Licence.
>
> Stefan Jacobi
>
>
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From bowserj at unbc.ca Sun Jul 7 05:50:57 2002
From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser)
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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From gtgbr at gmx.net Sun Jul 7 08:14:01 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 10:14:01 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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Rob Burris wrote:
> Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure of the
> exact link, but here's a starting point
That is definitely not free, it's not even zero cost after that
evaluation year. There don't even exist any players for it except from
Real ... i can't think of anything less free than that. :|
I suggest ditching all that crap and to wait for Ogg Theora (give it a
year or so).
Moritz
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From robeb at keepthevibe.com Sun Jul 7 08:26:25 2002
From: robeb at keepthevibe.com (Rob Burris)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 02:26:25 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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I use real server to broadcast live video streams from my studio ( using
icecast to broadcast the audio ) to clients using real player ( of which
there also is a free version of ) and I don't pay a dime. I don't know how
much more free something can get. But, you sir, can believe whatever you'd
like to...
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> Rob Burris wrote:
> > Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure of
the
> > exact link, but here's a starting point
>
> That is definitely not free, it's not even zero cost after that
> evaluation year. There don't even exist any players for it except from
> Real ... i can't think of anything less free than that. :|
>
> I suggest ditching all that crap and to wait for Ogg Theora (give it a
> year or so).
>
>
> Moritz
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From demirt at boun.edu.tr Sun Jul 7 08:37:47 2002
From: demirt at boun.edu.tr (Tamer Demir)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 11:37:47 +0300
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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Hello,
I suggest Darwin Steraming Server. Apple's Darwin Streaming Video Server is
pretty good and open source...(It uses RTSP protocol and supports
Linux,Mac,Windows)
RealServer is not free(there is connection and year limitations....) but
powerfull..(uses RTSP, supports Linux, Windows[memory eater :)) ])
Also there is Windows Media(uses HTTP(performance is very bad), supports
only Windows, easy to use also supports live video capturing....)
There are other open source streaming video servers like TV streaming.
Good Luck,
Tamer
At 11:14 07.07.2002, you wrote:
>Rob Burris wrote:
> > Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure
> of the
> > exact link, but here's a starting point
>
>That is definitely not free, it's not even zero cost after that
>evaluation year. There don't even exist any players for it except from
>Real ... i can't think of anything less free than that. :|
>
>I suggest ditching all that crap and to wait for Ogg Theora (give it a
>year or so).
>
>
>Moritz
>
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From rem at entropik.com Sun Jul 7 08:52:05 2002
From: rem at entropik.com (rem cmiral)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 01:52:05 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <003c01c2258f$fbd6bae0$3301a8c0@robeb>
Message-ID: <01fe01c22593$a5e650b0$1b914e18@sanctuary>
just cause you don't pay $$ for it, don't mean that you (or even we) aren't
paying for it other ways.
but don't think this is the place for rants or debates of this nature.
real software is an option for some, and not for others...
rem
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> I use real server to broadcast live video streams from my studio ( using
> icecast to broadcast the audio ) to clients using real player ( of which
> there also is a free version of ) and I don't pay a dime. I don't know how
> much more free something can get. But, you sir, can believe whatever you'd
> like to...
>
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From gtgbr at gmx.net Sun Jul 7 10:34:54 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 12:34:54 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <003c01c2258f$fbd6bae0$3301a8c0@robeb>
Message-ID: <3D28194E.B0FEED83@gmx.net>
Rob Burris wrote:
> I use real server to broadcast live video streams from my studio ( using
> icecast to broadcast the audio ) to clients using real player ( of which
> there also is a free version of ) and I don't pay a dime. I don't know how
> much more free something can get. But, you sir, can believe whatever you'd
> like to...
Free means that you may use for any purpose, redistribute, modify and
redistribute the modified version of a program. It's not about cost.
Real is so closed that only Real themselves can make a player. Their
player is very intrusive into the system it's installed to, and clueless
users get tricked into subscribing to newsletter AKA spam by Real and if
they don't reconfigure the client, they also send statistical data to
Real that should stay private. I'm talking about free as in freedom, not
as in "free beer". Apart from that, Real's software is a nuisance to
use. It DOES perform well technically, e.g. in terms of quality at low
bitrates (44kbps sounds almost as good as Vorbis' 48kbps ABR), but it's
ressource hungry and not trustworthy, too. I wouldn't install and run
any server that I (and everyone else) don't know about what it actually
does, for both security and privacy reasons. I don't trust Real just
like I don't trust Microsoft. You seem to be happy with blindly trusting
proprietary software and companies making them, I don't. That's why I
don't recommend it to anyone and tell my concerns instead.
Moritz
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From Webmaster at chat-radio.de Sun Jul 7 12:42:12 2002
From: Webmaster at chat-radio.de (Webmaster at chat-radio.de)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:42:12 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <3D28194E.B0FEED83@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <000901c225b3$bbc32fa0$0200a8c0@front>
> > I use real server to broadcast live video streams from my studio ( using
> > icecast to broadcast the audio ) to clients using real player ( of which
> > there also is a free version of ) and I don't pay a dime. I don't know
how
> > much more free something can get. But, you sir, can believe whatever
you'd
> > like to...
>
> Free means that you may use for any purpose, redistribute, modify and
> redistribute the modified version of a program. It's not about cost.
> Real is so closed that only Real themselves can make a player. Their
> player is very intrusive into the system it's installed to, and clueless
> users get tricked into subscribing to newsletter AKA spam by Real and if
> they don't reconfigure the client, they also send statistical data to
> Real that should stay private. I'm talking about free as in freedom, not
> as in "free beer". Apart from that, Real's software is a nuisance to
> use. It DOES perform well technically, e.g. in terms of quality at low
> bitrates (44kbps sounds almost as good as Vorbis' 48kbps ABR), but it's
> ressource hungry and not trustworthy, too. I wouldn't install and run
> any server that I (and everyone else) don't know about what it actually
> does, for both security and privacy reasons. I don't trust Real just
> like I don't trust Microsoft. You seem to be happy with blindly trusting
> proprietary software and companies making them, I don't. That's why I
> don't recommend it to anyone and tell my concerns instead.
>
>
> Moritz
Real wants to get the user's data wherever the can.. The players are bad for
all
systems i know and the most users are not verry happy if they have to use
Real Prducts..
BUT there is one thing, icecast/MP3 can not give us: Real Audio 8 has a ver
high compression at
a very good quality, an 24k Stream in Stereo!! sounds like an MP3 Audio
Stream @ 40k Mono..
Real Server is only free for 30 days.
Greets,
Pandur2000
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From gtgbr at gmx.net Sun Jul 7 17:26:58 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 19:26:58 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
In-Reply-To: <000901c225b3$bbc32fa0$0200a8c0@front>
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"Webmaster at chat-radio.de" wrote:
> Real Prducts..
> BUT there is one thing, icecast/MP3 can not give us: Real Audio 8 has a ver
> high compression at
> a very good quality, an 24k Stream in Stereo!! sounds like an MP3 Audio
> Stream @ 40k Mono..
I made some tests lately and compared all I could find with the new low
bitrate modes of Ogg Vorbis RC4 (in CVS). Real is competive in that area
indeed - although it achieves that quality by heavily compressing the
sound, mangling it quite a bit. It's relatively free from "traditional"
artifacts, though. Currently, Vorbis in CVS doesn't go much lower than
35-45 kbps (this is likely to change before the release of RC4), so
below that, low bitrate codecs like Real's sound better. However, at
equal bitrates Vorbis sounds better to me.
My tests showed me that it's not really worth talking about MP3 in that
area. Vorbis, Real and even WMA sound better.
Oh, while I'm at it, CVS' 64kbps mode sounds better than MP3pro. :)
Basicly, they sound pretty equal, but MP3pro comes with drop-outs and
distortions in the high frequency area - seems like their guessing
engine doesn't do a very good job.
What MP3* can't give you, Vorbis can. :) Everyone should check it out
for streaming as soon as RC4 gets released (or earlier if you like to
fiddle around with CVS). Marketing departments of big companies would
sell Vorbis' new ~48kbps mode as "near CD quality". Hooray for Vorbis,
guess that's enough advocating for today. :)
Moritz
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From robeb at keepthevibe.com Sun Jul 7 18:59:40 2002
From: robeb at keepthevibe.com (Rob Burris)
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:59:40 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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what type of broadcasting software is out there to use with Darwin?
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> Hello,
>
> I suggest Darwin Steraming Server. Apple's Darwin Streaming Video Server
is
> pretty good and open source...(It uses RTSP protocol and supports
> Linux,Mac,Windows)
> RealServer is not free(there is connection and year limitations....) but
> powerfull..(uses RTSP, supports Linux, Windows[memory eater :)) ])
> Also there is Windows Media(uses HTTP(performance is very bad), supports
> only Windows, easy to use also supports live video capturing....)
> There are other open source streaming video servers like TV streaming.
>
> Good Luck,
> Tamer
>
> At 11:14 07.07.2002, you wrote:
> >Rob Burris wrote:
> > > Real Networks offers a free streamer called Real Server. I'm not sure
> > of the
> > > exact link, but here's a starting point
> >
> >That is definitely not free, it's not even zero cost after that
> >evaluation year. There don't even exist any players for it except from
> >Real ... i can't think of anything less free than that. :|
> >
> >I suggest ditching all that crap and to wait for Ogg Theora (give it a
> >year or so).
> >
> >
> >Moritz
> >
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From Dar at Dar-Klajid.de Sun Jul 7 22:50:03 2002
From: Dar at Dar-Klajid.de (Dar-Klajid)
Date: 08 Jul 2002 00:50:03 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Icecast is cool, but how about video?
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Just to understand what you'd call "free":
Is the client that you use free as well? =)
Imho not, and it's quite annoying to see this trial-reminder...
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> it's free for one year ;)
>
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From geezer at freesounds.net Mon Jul 8 01:45:25 2002
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Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 18:45:25 -0700
Subject: [icecast] multiple streams
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From geezer at freesounds.net Mon Jul 8 02:07:43 2002
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Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 19:07:43 -0700
Subject: [icecast] about playlist
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