From jra at febo.com  Mon Apr  1 19:42:09 2002
From: jra at febo.com (John Ackermann N8UR)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 14:42:09 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Simple streamer help
Message-ID: <24569218.1017672129@WUSJA129861-8HP>



Hi --

I am trying to add limited streaming capability to an existing mp3 setup 
I'm running for internal use at my house.

I'm using the "mp3sb" package with a php-based web front-end to pipe music 
to my stereo; now I want to extend that so I can use the same web interface 
to stream to computers in the house.  I don't want to run shout or another 
streaming front-end (unless it can be invisible) as I already have a user 
interface that provides database functions, playlists, etc. and I'm quite 
happy with it.  All I want to do is hack the mp3sb server script to pass 
the user-selected mp3 file to icecast rather than to mpg123.

So, what I'm looking for is guidance on the simplest way to stream an mp3 
file into an icecast server.  What do I need to feed it, and how?  I'll be 
working with a perl script that can provide the song's title, file 
location, genre, etc., and I'm sure I can hack it to pass the actual mp3 
bitstream to icecast if that's needed.

I hope this description makes sense.  Can anyone guide me in how to 
accomplish this?

Thanks,

John Ackermann
jra at febo.com


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From jra at febo.com  Mon Apr  1 20:20:59 2002
From: jra at febo.com (John Ackermann N8UR)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 15:20:59 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Re: Simple streamer help
In-Reply-To: <24569218.1017672129@WUSJA129861-8HP>
Message-ID: <26898598.1017674458@WUSJA129861-8HP>



Following up on myself because I just realized I may be barking up the 
wrong tree; if so I apologize for the bandwidth, but would still love it if 
someone could point me in the right direction.

After reading through the mailing list archives, I think that icecast may 
not be the solution I'm looking for, because I'm hoping to somehow play the 
mp3s on demand from the web browser, not via a separate mp3-playing 
program.  My goal is to have the user select a song or a playlist from my 
existing web interface, and have the brownser "render" the songs (I suppose 
that may require a browser plug-in of some sort?).  Can this be done?

Sorry to be dense about all this; if it's not obvious already, I know 
nothing about putting audio on the Internet.

Thanks,

John

--On Monday, April 01, 2002 2:42 PM -0500 John Ackermann N8UR 
<jra at febo.com> wrote:

> Hi --
>
> I am trying to add limited streaming capability to an existing mp3 setup
> I'm running for internal use at my house.
>
> I'm using the "mp3sb" package with a php-based web front-end to pipe
> music to my stereo; now I want to extend that so I can use the same web
> interface to stream to computers in the house.  I don't want to run shout
> or another streaming front-end (unless it can be invisible) as I already
> have a user interface that provides database functions, playlists, etc.
> and I'm quite happy with it.  All I want to do is hack the mp3sb server
> script to pass the user-selected mp3 file to icecast rather than to
> mpg123.
>
> So, what I'm looking for is guidance on the simplest way to stream an mp3
> file into an icecast server.  What do I need to feed it, and how?  I'll
> be working with a perl script that can provide the song's title, file
> location, genre, etc., and I'm sure I can hack it to pass the actual mp3
> bitstream to icecast if that's needed.
>
> I hope this description makes sense.  Can anyone guide me in how to
> accomplish this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Ackermann
> jra at febo.com
>
> ----
> John Ackermann    N8UR         jra at febo.com     http://www.febo.com
> President, TAPR                n8ur at tapr.org    http://www.tapr.org

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From bryan at audiorealm.com  Mon Apr  1 20:25:38 2002
From: bryan at audiorealm.com (Bryan Payne)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:25:38 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Re: Simple streamer help
In-Reply-To: <26898598.1017674458@WUSJA129861-8HP>
Message-ID: <013601c1d9bb$770c6fa0$3ca0623f@digitalwolf>



John,

Have a look at www.radiotoolbox.com - they may have just what your looking
for

Bryan - N5MDR

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From: "John Ackermann N8UR" <jra at febo.com>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: [icecast] Re: Simple streamer help

<p>> Following up on myself because I just realized I may be barking up the
> wrong tree; if so I apologize for the bandwidth, but would still love it
if
> someone could point me in the right direction.
>
> After reading through the mailing list archives, I think that icecast may
> not be the solution I'm looking for, because I'm hoping to somehow play
the
> mp3s on demand from the web browser, not via a separate mp3-playing
> program.  My goal is to have the user select a song or a playlist from my
> existing web interface, and have the brownser "render" the songs (I
suppose
> that may require a browser plug-in of some sort?).  Can this be done?
>
> Sorry to be dense about all this; if it's not obvious already, I know
> nothing about putting audio on the Internet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> --On Monday, April 01, 2002 2:42 PM -0500 John Ackermann N8UR
> <jra at febo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi --
> >
> > I am trying to add limited streaming capability to an existing mp3 setup
> > I'm running for internal use at my house.
> >
> > I'm using the "mp3sb" package with a php-based web front-end to pipe
> > music to my stereo; now I want to extend that so I can use the same web
> > interface to stream to computers in the house.  I don't want to run
shout
> > or another streaming front-end (unless it can be invisible) as I already
> > have a user interface that provides database functions, playlists, etc.
> > and I'm quite happy with it.  All I want to do is hack the mp3sb server
> > script to pass the user-selected mp3 file to icecast rather than to
> > mpg123.
> >
> > So, what I'm looking for is guidance on the simplest way to stream an
mp3
> > file into an icecast server.  What do I need to feed it, and how?  I'll
> > be working with a perl script that can provide the song's title, file
> > location, genre, etc., and I'm sure I can hack it to pass the actual mp3
> > bitstream to icecast if that's needed.
> >
> > I hope this description makes sense.  Can anyone guide me in how to
> > accomplish this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Ackermann
> > jra at febo.com
> >
> > ----
> > John Ackermann    N8UR         jra at febo.com     http://www.febo.com
> > President, TAPR                n8ur at tapr.org    http://www.tapr.org
>
>
>
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From mmarquez at cernet.com.mx  Mon Apr  1 20:53:05 2002
From: mmarquez at cernet.com.mx (Mario Marquez)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 14:53:05 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Re: Simple streamer help
In-Reply-To: <26898598.1017674458@WUSJA129861-8HP>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020401144951.00a75e80@10.1.1.1>



John

"Static files (http support)
There is support in icecast for streaming files directory from the server 
to the client. This is usually handled much more nicely by a real http 
server, but if you don't want to go through the hassle of setting up apache 
or roxen or whatever, then this might be what you're looking for.
All files must end in .mp3, and they must all be in the file tree rooted at 
a directory specified with the static_dir variable. This directory 
corresponds to the virtual directory http://server:port/file/. So a file 
named stream.mp3 in the static_dir directory can be accessed through a http 
request (in a browser or mp3 player or whatever) with the url 
http://server:port/file/stream.mp3. "

...from ICECAST Documentation.

Check my server

http://anicast.com.mx:9000/file/

<p>BEst REgards,

Mario

<p><p><p><p>At 03:20 p.m. 01/04/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Following up on myself because I just realized I may be barking up the 
>wrong tree; if so I apologize for the bandwidth, but would still love it 
>if someone could point me in the right direction.
>
>After reading through the mailing list archives, I think that icecast may 
>not be the solution I'm looking for, because I'm hoping to somehow play 
>the mp3s on demand from the web browser, not via a separate mp3-playing 
>program.  My goal is to have the user select a song or a playlist from my 
>existing web interface, and have the brownser "render" the songs (I 
>suppose that may require a browser plug-in of some sort?).  Can this be done?
>
>Sorry to be dense about all this; if it's not obvious already, I know 
>nothing about putting audio on the Internet.
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
>--On Monday, April 01, 2002 2:42 PM -0500 John Ackermann N8UR 
><jra at febo.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi --
>>
>>I am trying to add limited streaming capability to an existing mp3 setup
>>I'm running for internal use at my house.
>>
>>I'm using the "mp3sb" package with a php-based web front-end to pipe
>>music to my stereo; now I want to extend that so I can use the same web
>>interface to stream to computers in the house.  I don't want to run shout
>>or another streaming front-end (unless it can be invisible) as I already
>>have a user interface that provides database functions, playlists, etc.
>>and I'm quite happy with it.  All I want to do is hack the mp3sb server
>>script to pass the user-selected mp3 file to icecast rather than to
>>mpg123.
>>
>>So, what I'm looking for is guidance on the simplest way to stream an mp3
>>file into an icecast server.  What do I need to feed it, and how?  I'll
>>be working with a perl script that can provide the song's title, file
>>location, genre, etc., and I'm sure I can hack it to pass the actual mp3
>>bitstream to icecast if that's needed.
>>
>>I hope this description makes sense.  Can anyone guide me in how to
>>accomplish this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>John Ackermann
>>jra at febo.com
>>
>>----
>>John Ackermann    N8UR         jra at febo.com     http://www.febo.com
>>President, TAPR                n8ur at tapr.org    http://www.tapr.org
>
>
>
>----
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>President, TAPR                n8ur at tapr.org    http://www.tapr.org
>
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From jra at febo.com  Mon Apr  1 21:21:51 2002
From: jra at febo.com (John Ackermann N8UR)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 16:21:51 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Re: Simple streamer help
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20020401144951.00a75e80@10.1.1.1>
Message-ID: <30550849.1017678111@WUSJA129861-8HP>



Hi Mario --

Thanks for the reply.  Actually, I have an apache server available.  My 
problem is how to get from the user selecting a song or series of songs via 
the web interface, to having the music magically start playing out of the 
user's speakers...

The part I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is getting the browser 
to play not a single file that's sitting in some static location (that much 
I have working), but instead a continuing sequence of songs (e.g., a 
playlist generated by the front-end software).  That's why I was thinking 
of streaming; my current program could pass either the mp3 bitstream, or 
the filesystem location of the song that's playing, to icecast if that 
would work.  But I don't know if that's the best answer, and in any event I 
don't know how to interface to icecast in this way.

(By the way -- this is all running inside my house, so there would at most 
be two or three streams going at any given time, and it's all on an 
ethernet, so bandwidth isn't an issue; nor is CPU since the music system is 
on a dedicated box.)

John

<p>--On Monday, April 01, 2002 2:53 PM -0600 Mario Marquez 
<mmarquez at cernet.com.mx> wrote:

>
> John
>
> "Static files (http support)
> There is support in icecast for streaming files directory from the server
> to the client. This is usually handled much more nicely by a real http
> server, but if you don't want to go through the hassle of setting up
> apache or roxen or whatever, then this might be what you're looking for.
> All files must end in .mp3, and they must all be in the file tree rooted
> at a directory specified with the static_dir variable. This directory
> corresponds to the virtual directory http://server:port/file/. So a file
> named stream.mp3 in the static_dir directory can be accessed through a
> http request (in a browser or mp3 player or whatever) with the url
> http://server:port/file/stream.mp3. "
>
> ...from ICECAST Documentation.
>
> Check my server
>
> http://anicast.com.mx:9000/file/
>
>
> BEst REgards,
>
> Mario
>
>
>
>
>
> At 03:20 p.m. 01/04/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> Following up on myself because I just realized I may be barking up the
>> wrong tree; if so I apologize for the bandwidth, but would still love it
>> if someone could point me in the right direction.
>>
>> After reading through the mailing list archives, I think that icecast
>> may  not be the solution I'm looking for, because I'm hoping to somehow
>> play  the mp3s on demand from the web browser, not via a separate
>> mp3-playing  program.  My goal is to have the user select a song or a
>> playlist from my  existing web interface, and have the brownser "render"
>> the songs (I  suppose that may require a browser plug-in of some sort?).
>> Can this be done?
>>
>> Sorry to be dense about all this; if it's not obvious already, I know
>> nothing about putting audio on the Internet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>> --On Monday, April 01, 2002 2:42 PM -0500 John Ackermann N8UR
>> <jra at febo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi --
>>>
>>> I am trying to add limited streaming capability to an existing mp3 setup
>>> I'm running for internal use at my house.
>>>
>>> I'm using the "mp3sb" package with a php-based web front-end to pipe
>>> music to my stereo; now I want to extend that so I can use the same web
>>> interface to stream to computers in the house.  I don't want to run
>>> shout or another streaming front-end (unless it can be invisible) as I
>>> already have a user interface that provides database functions,
>>> playlists, etc. and I'm quite happy with it.  All I want to do is hack
>>> the mp3sb server script to pass the user-selected mp3 file to icecast
>>> rather than to mpg123.
>>>
>>> So, what I'm looking for is guidance on the simplest way to stream an
>>> mp3 file into an icecast server.  What do I need to feed it, and how?
>>> I'll be working with a perl script that can provide the song's title,
>>> file location, genre, etc., and I'm sure I can hack it to pass the
>>> actual mp3 bitstream to icecast if that's needed.
>>>
>>> I hope this description makes sense.  Can anyone guide me in how to
>>> accomplish this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Ackermann
>>> jra at febo.com
>>>
>>> ----
>>> John Ackermann    N8UR         jra at febo.com     http://www.febo.com
>>> President, TAPR                n8ur at tapr.org    http://www.tapr.org
>>
>>
>>
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From trelane at dungeonfyre.com  Tue Apr  2 01:20:47 2002
From: trelane at dungeonfyre.com (Andrew D Kirch)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:20:47 -0500
Subject: [icecast] ices debug output
Message-ID: <20020401202047.45f97190.trelane@dungeonfyre.com>


I'm running icecast2/ices with the ices-live.xml config (modified to taste)

the server appears to run smoothly
[root at Mandrake82 bin]# ./icecast -c icecast.xml
connection added....
DEBUG: source logging in

but at that point clients cannot connect to the stream recieving a source not found output.

connection added....
DEBUG: client coming in...
DEBUG: source not found for client

after looking through the log and conf for icecast and everything seeming normal I took a look at the logfile for ices which has this error

[2002-04-01  20:04:06] INFO ices-core/main ices started...
[2002-04-01  20:04:06] INFO input-oss/oss_open_module Opened audio device /dev/dsp at 2 channel(s), 22050 Hz
[2002-04-01  20:04:06] INFO input-oss/oss_open_module Started metadata update thread
[2002-04-01  20:04:06] INFO encode/encode_initialise Encoder initialising at 2 channels, 22050 Hz, quality 2.000000
[2002-04-01  20:04:06] INFO stream/ices_instance_stream Connected to server: 127.0.0.1:8000/wopn.ogg
[2002-04-01  20:04:08] DBUG encode/encode_dataout Forcing flush: Too many samples in current page (49152)

repeating the last line exactly every 2 seconds. 

<p>DEBUG: client coming in...
DEBUG: source found for client
DEBUG: sending ice-bitrate: 0
DEBUG: sending ice-description: A short description of your stream
DEBUG: sending ice-genre: WOPN Radio Music
DEBUG: sending ice-name: WOPN Radio Network
DEBUG: sending ice-public: 0
SOURCE: client had unrecoverable error 32 with new data (-1/115)
DEBUG: Client dropped...

There is approximately a 5 minute time elapse before the winamp trying to log in gets anything to buffer.
I'm stuck at this point and don't really know where to go from here.


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From trelane at dungeonfyre.com  Tue Apr  2 02:15:09 2002
From: trelane at dungeonfyre.com (Andrew D Kirch)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:15:09 -0500
Subject: [icecast] addendum to previous request
Message-ID: <20020401211509.00ea5309.trelane@dungeonfyre.com>



all software running is -rc3 or cvs from today, winamp plugin is -rc3, and current winamp .79 I think.


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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Tue Apr  2 08:51:37 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:51:37 +1000
Subject: [icecast] ices debug output
In-Reply-To: <20020401202047.45f97190.trelane@dungeonfyre.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020402185137.41088d10@mail.labyrinth.net.au>



At 08:20 PM 4/1/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm running icecast2/ices with the ices-live.xml config (modified to taste)
>

Yeah, I think there's a bug in ices2 when flushing the data stream. 
I haven't had time to track it down exactly. This, as you've probably seen,
only happens when you get this "Too many samples in current page" debug
message - and THAT should only happen if you're feeding digital silence
to ices2. It's a problem case, but the code is MEANT to deal with it. 

Obviously, you can avoid this by actually providing audio to ices2, but
this is hardly an ideal solution. I'll try and fix it this weekend.

Please report this bug at http://bugs.xiph.org, that'll remind me
to actually DO this.

Michael

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From jack at xiph.org  Tue Apr  2 13:16:18 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 06:16:18 -0700
Subject: [icecast] [dizznutt@my.security.nl: icecast 1.3.11 remote shell/root exploit - #temp]
Message-ID: <20020402131618.GL16749@babyjesus.cantcode.com>



Contrary to the report, this only affect 1.3.x version of icecast, not
_all_ versions.

But this is a serious problem and I do hope you all took my advice last
time and aren't running icecast as root.

I'll try to have a patch today.

jack.

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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:51:55 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
From: dizznutt at my.security.nl
To: bugtraq at securityfocus.com
Cc: team at icecast.org
Subject: icecast 1.3.11 remote shell/root exploit - #temp
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=10.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.11

Ola,

I'm feeling rather homicidal today so I'm killing a bug. I hope it has a 
nice funeral. It has been a good friend to all of us. May it rest in peace.

There is a remotely exploitable buffer overflow in all versions of the Icecast 
mp3 streaming server (www.icecast.org). All means that yes, the current 
version (1.3.11) is vulnerable. Apparently alot of people can't be bothered 
to set the perms on the icecast log dirs right and just run it as root. 
Hence the designation remote shell/root. If not running with uid 0 it will 
yield a shell with the uid/gid of the icecast user.

The vendor has been notified via a cc of this mail. Fixing is easy so I 
expect they will release patches shortly. 

See the attached exploit (icx.c) for further details.

diz -- #temp

eww..so that's what full disclosure feels like...

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From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Apr  3 18:14:36 2002
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 12:14:36 -0600
Subject: [icecast] security issue
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I know how to get the passwords from a typical install of icecast.  anyone have any ideas on what I should do with this info?
Should I just post it here in the public?  I think the worst that will happen is someone can highack a server and cut off the
current stream and fed a new stream.

Carl

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From jack at xiph.org  Wed Apr  3 18:49:37 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:49:37 -0700
Subject: [icecast] security issue
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> I know how to get the passwords from a typical install of icecast.  anyone have any ideas on what I should do with this info?
> Should I just post it here in the public?  I think the worst that will happen is someone can highack a server and cut off the
> current stream and fed a new stream.

Why don't you send it to me first :)

That way I can begin work on a fix regardless of when you publish the
info.

jack.

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From simensen at halogen.org  Wed Apr  3 20:30:39 2002
From: simensen at halogen.org (Beau D. Simensen)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 12:30:39 -0800
Subject: [icecast] Different passwords for each mountpoint
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Something I'd be interested in setting up is specific passwords for each
moutpoint. Maybe this functionality exists somewhere already and I just
haven't found out how to activate it yet. All I've seen is one encoder
password per icecast server instead of one password per moutpoint.

If I've missed something, please point me in the right direction. If I
haven't, may I ask if this type of functionality will be included in
icecast2?

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From johnwatson at Mysticglow.com  Thu Apr  4 00:25:06 2002
From: johnwatson at Mysticglow.com (John Watson)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 18:25:06 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Icecast2
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Do we, yet, have an eta (or an update) on when icecast2 will work with the listing website?

Thanks.

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From doug at world-mail.org  Thu Apr  4 00:26:51 2002
From: doug at world-mail.org (Doug Curtis)
Date: Wed,  3 Apr 2002 19:26:51 -0500
Subject: [icecast] A couple of questions involving Ices and Icecast
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I tried searching the archives but couldn't find anything on this.

1.  I am using Ices and Icecast with Linux.  When I connect with Winamp from 
another machine on the same network, the red light goes on and off indicating 
that it's reading from the buffer.  Being that I am only client connected, why 
would it read from the buffer?  The bandwdith isn't maxed out and the server 
isn't doing anything but run Icecast.

2.  I wanted to try the Shoutcast temporarily to see if it does it then but 
when Ices tries to connect, I get a Bad password error.  I know that password 
is right in the config file.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Doug

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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Apr  4 00:51:30 2002
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:51:30 -0600
Subject: [icecast] how to direct the sreams to mount points
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Not sure where the right place to post this is, so I figure here is as good as any...

How do I tell the ShoutCast plugin for Winamp which icecast mount point to stream to?

What I would really like is to have my local mp3 list randomly play 24/7, and when a lecture is going on, stream the voice an have
that be the default stream.  I don't really care if the music keeps playing, I just want something there all the time so people can
test their connections ahead of time.

Also, any ideas on how to stream live video?  especially 800x600 screen capture.  I am broadcasting our developers group meetings,
and it would be tres cool to get the presentations broadcast.

Carl

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From eric.gianquinto at easynet.be  Thu Apr  4 10:04:40 2002
From: eric.gianquinto at easynet.be (Eric Gianquinto)
Date: 04 Apr 2002 12:04:40 +0200
Subject: [icecast] liveice daemon ...
Message-ID: <1017914689.2049.0.camel@knob-lap1>



Hello all, 

Is there any possibility to execute liveice as a daemon ... ??? or
something like that ... 

Thanks 

eric 

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From marcelo at gulin.com.ar  Thu Apr  4 12:32:48 2002
From: marcelo at gulin.com.ar (Marcelo Gulin)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:32:48 -0300
Subject: [icecast] Getting started
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Hi guys!

  I'm new here and need some help.

  I need to broadcast (live) a FM radio signal to the internet.
  Where should I start reading to learn how?

Thanks in advance
-marcelo

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From pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com  Thu Apr  4 13:07:43 2002
From: pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com (Pierre Amadio)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:07:43 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Getting started
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hi there.

What about the documentation that goes with the sources ?

And the web faq.

All you need to make your web radio is :

- one box with icecast 
- one box that get the radio signal and feed it to icecast
- the radio permission to broadcast it on the net.

The 2 box can be the same box.

Set icecast so it accept stream from the box that get the radio, 
stream the radio using liveice and here you are. You can get the 
radio signal either with a radio card or with a classic radio that 
will be pluged in the line in jack of your sound card.

Have a nice day (and dont forget to read the doc :) )

Pierre Amadio

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:32:48AM -0300, Marcelo Gulin wrote:
> Hi guys!
> 
>   I'm new here and need some help.
> 
>   I need to broadcast (live) a FM radio signal to the internet.
>   Where should I start reading to learn how?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> -marcelo

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From doug.curtis at world-mail.org  Thu Apr  4 13:21:43 2002
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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:21:43 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Getting started
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First off, you need some sort of streaming server (preferably 
icecast).  Configuring icecast is pretty easy.  Now you need a streamer 
that will take the line in from your soundcard (I'm assuming you are using 
the line in of your soundcard to get the FM broadcast onto your computer) 
and encode it to mp3.  I've found that Darkice does a pretty good job at 
this.  Also, Liveice will complete the task.

I won't go into the details of configuration, but it's fairly simple.  That 
should get you started.

Hope it helps,

Doug

At 09:32 AM 4/4/2002 -0300, you wrote:
>Hi guys!
>
>   I'm new here and need some help.
>
>   I need to broadcast (live) a FM radio signal to the internet.
>   Where should I start reading to learn how?
>
>Thanks in advance
>-marcelo

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Thu Apr  4 13:34:28 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:34:28 +1000
Subject: [icecast] how to direct the sreams to mount points
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Carl Karsten wrote:

> How do I tell the ShoutCast plugin for Winamp which icecast mount point
> to stream to?

You don't.  The shoutcast plugin doesn't speak mountpoints.  I recommend
the oddcast DSP plugin <http://www.oddsock.org/> which will let you do
this.

Geoff.

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From alfredo at nexus.org  Thu Apr  4 13:52:36 2002
From: alfredo at nexus.org (Alfredo E. Cotroneo)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:52:36 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Fwd: Icecast temp patch (OR: Patches?  We DO need stinkin' patches!!@$!)
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Hi There,

re. the recently reported buffer overflow in icecast, is there any 
"official" security patch against 1.3.11 ? I am reluctant to take any 
un-official patch like this one ;-)

There is nothing on www.icecast.org/releases, maybe it's somewhere else ?

Thanks.

Alfredo

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>This addresses the client_login() Icecast issue:
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>For those who have a burning need to 'patch < patch', or just don't
>want to type three lines into client.c, I've attached a small
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From alfredo at nexus.org  Thu Apr  4 14:00:03 2002
From: alfredo at nexus.org (Alfredo E. Cotroneo)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:00:03 +0200
Subject: [icecast] live feed volume checking
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When feeding icecast with live audio (i.e. using darkice) I usually adjust 
the recording volume "by hear".

Anybody knows of any tool to monitor the audio volume of a soundcard, 
preferably using a console terminal (I have no X installed)? Most of 
console mixer controls allow "setting" the volume, what I would like to see 
is the level of audio being sampled during recording and playback.

Liveice has a nice control bar, but I found out that there may be 
considerable distortion even if the level shows no clipping.

Any experience to share ?

Thanks.

Alfredo

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Thu Apr  4 14:01:04 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:01:04 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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Hi:

I want to stream audio from my soundcard, but I'd like to apply some
dynamic compression to it first (ala winamp's audiostocker plus shoutmuxer
thingy).  I heard rumours of compression in liveice, but Iv'e been told
that this only works when it plays from prerecorded MP3, not the live
input.  I'd like to do this with darkice, but can't see how it could be
done.  I guess I'd either need to use ecasound or something to get the
sound from the card, process it and then somehow pipe it into a streamer.
But neither liveice or darkice would seem to accept audio via a pipe.  I
guess the other alternative would be to hack darkice to be able to insert
LADSPA plugins, which would be a neat thing, but then there'd be the issue
of configuring them which would be an interesting UI issue.

any ideas?

Geoff.

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Thu Apr  4 14:08:30 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:08:30 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I want to stream audio from my soundcard, but I'd like to apply some
> dynamic compression to it first (ala winamp's audiostocker plus shoutmuxer
> thingy).  I heard rumours of compression in liveice, but Iv'e been told
> that this only works when it plays from prerecorded MP3, not the live
> input.  I'd like to do this with darkice, but can't see how it could be
> done.  I guess I'd either need to use ecasound or something to get the
> sound from the card, process it and then somehow pipe it into a streamer.
> But neither liveice or darkice would seem to accept audio via a pipe.  I
> guess the other alternative would be to hack darkice to be able to insert
> LADSPA plugins, which would be a neat thing, but then there'd be the issue
> of configuring them which would be an interesting UI issue.
> 
> any ideas?

interesting indeed.

can you tell me more about these LADSPA plugins? Also, the OSALP project 
is aiming for something similar.

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From alfredo at nexus.org  Thu Apr  4 14:09:05 2002
From: alfredo at nexus.org (Alfredo E. Cotroneo)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:09:05 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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At 00:01 05/04/2002 +1000, Geoff Shang <gshang at uq.net.au> wrote:

>I want to stream audio from my soundcard, but I'd like to apply some
>dynamic compression to it first (ala winamp's audiostocker plus shoutmuxer
>thingy).

It's not exactly what you ask, but these guys have tremendous sound 
processors, and quite cheap :

http://www.behringer.com/

Check i.e. ULTRA-DYNE? PRO DSP9024. We have a number of them for different 
applications (streaming audio, studio, broadcasting), and work quite well.

Hope it helps.

Alfredo

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From jack at xiph.org  Thu Apr  4 14:13:45 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:13:45 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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> I want to stream audio from my soundcard, but I'd like to apply some
> dynamic compression to it first (ala winamp's audiostocker plus shoutmuxer
> thingy).  I heard rumours of compression in liveice, but Iv'e been told
> that this only works when it plays from prerecorded MP3, not the live
> input.  I'd like to do this with darkice, but can't see how it could be
> done.  I guess I'd either need to use ecasound or something to get the
> sound from the card, process it and then somehow pipe it into a streamer.
> But neither liveice or darkice would seem to accept audio via a pipe.  I
> guess the other alternative would be to hack darkice to be able to insert
> LADSPA plugins, which would be a neat thing, but then there'd be the issue
> of configuring them which would be an interesting UI issue.

While dynamic compression makes the transmission 'smaller' on FM radio,
it makes music harder to compress by psychoacoustic codecs, and therefor
you might have somewhat of a quality hit, although I haven't tested
this.

jack.

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Thu Apr  4 14:18:29 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:18:29 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Alfredo E. Cotroneo wrote:

> It's not exactly what you ask, but these guys have tremendous sound
> processors, and quite cheap :
>
> http://www.behringer.com/

ah.  I forgot to say ... I don't have any money to spare on this. <grin>
I'd like to have some hardware compressors one day, but I don't have the
cash and anyway, since there's compression code already out there, I
thought there should surely be a way to use it for this.  I'd like to be
able to switch over from using windows to using linux and this is basically
all that's stopping me.

Geoff.

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Thu Apr  4 14:45:23 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:45:23 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Jack Moffitt wrote:

> While dynamic compression makes the transmission 'smaller' on FM radio,
> it makes music harder to compress by psychoacoustic codecs, and therefor
> you might have somewhat of a quality hit, although I haven't tested
> this.

Quite possible, though I'm only using 56kbps 22khz stereo anyway so that's
not such a big deal.  I really need it to even out levels, however, which
is more important to me.

Geoff.


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From telmnstr at 757.org  Thu Apr  4 15:31:46 2002
From: telmnstr at 757.org (Ethan)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:31:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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> Check i.e. ULTRA-DYNE? PRO DSP9024. We have a number of them for different 
> applications (streaming audio, studio, broadcasting), and work quite well.
> Hope it helps.
> Alfredo

MARS Music has a sale on the Composer Pro (MDX-2100) at $99
I run one for one of my streams, and am going to buy a 2nd one for two
others. Great units. Used to use it for the Pirate FM broadcast
station. After the FCC smacked my hand my MDX-2100 found a 2nd life for
our streaming audio.

                                -- Ethan

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From telmnstr at 757.org  Thu Apr  4 15:34:23 2002
From: telmnstr at 757.org (Ethan)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:34:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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> While dynamic compression makes the transmission 'smaller' on FM radio,
> it makes music harder to compress by psychoacoustic codecs, and therefor
> you might have somewhat of a quality hit, although I haven't tested
> this.
> jack.

It took alot of tweaking to get ours sounding okay. We are running at a
really low streaming rate (11khz, 22kbps) so that 28800 dialup users can
hear the audio. It was hard to get the audio loud with no popping sounds,
and still have some dynamics to it (where it isn't too flat). Most of what
we are streaming is voice -- things go really downhill when music kicks
in.

                                                -- Ethan

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From pozar at lns.com  Thu Apr  4 15:37:21 2002
From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:37:21 -0800
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:13:45AM -0700, Jack Moffitt wrote:
> While dynamic compression makes the transmission 'smaller' on FM radio,
> it makes music harder to compress by psychoacoustic codecs, and therefor
> you might have somewhat of a quality hit, although I haven't tested
> this.

I have tested this to a limited extent.

Jack is correct that the addition of compression and limiting will
cause the codecs to work harder.  Any audio processing will generate
distortion in additional spectral energy as second and third harmonics
that the codecs will need to try to figure out how to compress.
You will start to hear more artifacts in the stream the more you
compress, limit and clip.

But this isn't to say you shouldn't do some processing.  There are
two reasons to audio process for streams; to prevent digital clipping
and to reduce the dynamic range so the audio can be hear in noisy
environments.  Sometimes folks will process the audio as they like
the "sound".

Ideally, you would want to use a soft knee limiter to prevent
clipping and perhaps slow automatic gain control (AGC) to help
reduce the dynamic range.  The Behringer (http://www.behringer.com)
Composer Pro MDX2200 is about the cheapest bang for the buck (~$150)
processor out there.  I found that it takes a lot of tweaking to
make it sound okay.  You can't use the use it too much as it sounds
pretty bad if you push it.

If folks have a couple extra bucks, I would suggest looking at the
Aphex (http://www.aphex.com) gear as it sounds much better but you
can expect to pay about $250 for a used "Compellor" (AGC) and
$400-$500 for a "Dominator" (limiter) on Ebay.

Tim

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Thu Apr  4 15:51:18 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 01:51:18 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Akos Maroy wrote:

> can you tell me more about these LADSPA plugins?

LADSPA stands for Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API (see
http://www.ladspa.org/).  Basically, it was pointed out on the linux audio
dev (LAD) mailing list that numerous programs were using plugin
architectures and all were different.  So they fleshed out a plugin API
and the rest, as they say, is history.

Right now, only things like compressors, expanders and limiters would
probably be useful to insert into a stream, but if someone wrote an
equaliser or a gate or something, that could well be useful too.

Geoff.

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From marcelo at gulin.com.ar  Thu Apr  4 16:00:46 2002
From: marcelo at gulin.com.ar (Marcelo Gulin)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:00:46 -0300
Subject: [icecast] Getting started
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Thanks Doug and Pierre for your advises.
I'll try right now.

-marcelo

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Of Doug Curtis
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Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting started

<p>First off, you need some sort of streaming server (preferably 
icecast).  Configuring icecast is pretty easy.  Now you need a streamer 
that will take the line in from your soundcard (I'm assuming you are
using 
the line in of your soundcard to get the FM broadcast onto your
computer) 
and encode it to mp3.  I've found that Darkice does a pretty good job at

this.  Also, Liveice will complete the task.

I won't go into the details of configuration, but it's fairly simple.
That 
should get you started.

Hope it helps,

Doug

At 09:32 AM 4/4/2002 -0300, you wrote:
>Hi guys!
>
>   I'm new here and need some help.
>
>   I need to broadcast (live) a FM radio signal to the internet.
>   Where should I start reading to learn how?
>
>Thanks in advance
>-marcelo

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From Matt at cmitech.com  Thu Apr  4 16:07:52 2002
From: Matt at cmitech.com (Matthew Mencel)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 10:07:52 -0600
Subject: [icecast] liveice daemon ...
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Yes...

Something like the following in your rc.local or other startup file should do the trick.  Modify the paths to suit your installation.

/usr/local/icecast/bin/liveice -F /usr/local/icecast/bin/liveice.cfg >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &

<p><p>>>> eric.gianquinto at easynet.be 4/4/02 4:04:40 AM >>>
Hello all, 

Is there any possibility to execute liveice as a daemon ... ??? or
something like that ... 

Thanks 

eric 

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From chr1701 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  4 16:14:52 2002
From: chr1701 at yahoo.com (Christoph Rupp)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [icecast] another patch (ping command)
Message-ID: <20020404161452.76713.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com>



Hi folks,

this is my first patch to an open source project ever,
so please be kind ;)

when i enter "ping" without arguments icecast crashes
(Version 1.3.11), the patch was generated with "diff
-u ...", i hope this is ok.

cu
Chris

--- commands.c~	Fri Jun 22 20:59:45 2001
+++ commands.c	Thu Apr  4 17:07:23 2002
@@ -2883,8 +2883,10 @@
         int s, port = info.port[0];
         time_t before = 0;
 
-	if (!arg || !arg[0])
+	if (!arg || !arg[0]) {
                 admin_write_line (req,
ADMIN_SHOW_PING_INVALID_SYNTAX, PING_SYNTAX);
+		return 1;
+        }
         
         host[0] = '\0';

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From rem at entropik.com  Thu Apr  4 16:29:39 2002
From: rem at entropik.com (rem cmiral)
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:29:39 -0800
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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hmm, cheap compressor
hmm

recording tape deck ?
vcr as last means ?

these 2 items i'm sure almost anyone has, and it should get you decent enuff
compression for voice signal
just run it inline between your source and your sound card.

behringer and alesis compressors are generally regarded as a bad investment.
if you can find a pair of RNC compressors probably in the same price range;
better buy, and resell value.

<p>rem

i would like to extend many thanx to the people responsible for icecast et
all. :)

<p>Subject: Re: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio

<p>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Akos Maroy wrote:
>
> > can you tell me more about these LADSPA plugins?
>
> LADSPA stands for Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API (see
> http://www.ladspa.org/).  Basically, it was pointed out on the linux audio
> dev (LAD) mailing list that numerous programs were using plugin
> architectures and all were different.  So they fleshed out a plugin API
> and the rest, as they say, is history.
>
> Right now, only things like compressors, expanders and limiters would
> probably be useful to insert into a stream, but if someone wrote an
> equaliser or a gate or something, that could well be useful too.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
> --
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>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
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>
>
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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Apr  5 14:39:24 2002
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:39:24 -0600
Subject: [icecast] new icecast2 win32 binary...
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for anyone interested, I have a new win32 binary for icecast2 which fixes 
(finally) the last known problem (server crashing when start/stopping the 
server)....keep in mind that icecast2 is still not officially released yet, 
and I hope that soon this version will be put in cvs, but until that time, 
you'll have to get it here -> http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2   beta5 is 
the latest version.

oddsock

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From eric.gianquinto at easynet.be  Fri Apr  5 19:01:45 2002
From: eric.gianquinto at easynet.be (Eric Gianquinto)
Date: 05 Apr 2002 21:01:45 +0200
Subject: [icecast] liveice daemon ...
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It work .. thanks ;-) 

On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 18:07, Matthew Mencel wrote: 
> Yes...
> 
> Something like the following in your rc.local or other startup file should do the trick.  Modify the paths to suit your installation.
> 
> /usr/local/icecast/bin/liveice -F /usr/local/icecast/bin/liveice.cfg >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
> 
> 
> 
> >>> eric.gianquinto at easynet.be 4/4/02 4:04:40 AM >>>
> Hello all, 
> 
> Is there any possibility to execute liveice as a daemon ... ??? or
> something like that ... 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> eric 
> 
> 
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From david at gof.se  Fri Apr  5 19:29:47 2002
From: david at gof.se (David)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:29:47 +0200
Subject: [icecast] LiveIce Plugin for XMMS and OS X
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Dear gurus,

Icecast and XMMS is up and running on my Mac running OS X. Sweet!
My problem is that I'm unable to compile the LiveIce XMMS plug-in.
Do we have anyone out there running the plug on OS X?

Blue Skies,
 /David

 

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From durrell at innocence.com  Sat Apr  6 06:44:26 2002
From: durrell at innocence.com (Bryant Durrell)
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:44:26 -0800
Subject: [icecast] ices 0.2.2 and Mac OS X 10.1?
Message-ID: <20020405224425.A5675@innocence.com>



I've having trouble getting ices to compile under MacOS X.  Mac OS has a
somewhat novel threads implementation (I'm being polite, here) and it
doesn't get along well with the threads in ices -- has anyone gotten it
to compile under MacOS X?

Initial errors:

Making all in thread
cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../avl -I../log  -g -pipe -pipe -fno-common -no-cpp-precomp -flat_namespace -DHAS_TELLDIR_PROTOTYPE -fno-strict-aliasing  -I/System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE  -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/local/include/libxml2  -g -O2 -Wall -c thread.c
In file included from thread.c:40:
thread.h:48: conflicting types for `thread_t'
/usr/include/mach/mach_types.h:98: previous declaration of `thread_t'
thread.c: In function `_block_signals':
thread.c:184: warning: implicit declaration of function `pthread_sigmask'
thread.c: At top level:
thread.c:70: warning: `_next_mutex_id' defined but not used
make[2]: *** [thread.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

I dug in and renamed thread_t in the ices code, and added:

#define pthread_sigmask(A,B,C) sigprocmask((A),(B),(C))

to thread/thread.h on the advice of some notes on one of the Darwin lists.
It'll compile now, but dumps core right after startup:

[justice:/usr/local/icecast] root# bin/ices -c etc/ices.conf
DEBUG: Sending following information to libshout:
DEBUG: Stream: 0
DEBUG: Host: localhost  Port: 8000
DEBUG: Password: notreallymypasswordsorry Icy Compat: 0
DEBUG: Name: Cool ices default name from XML    URL: Cool ices URL from XML
DEBUG: Genre: Cool ices genre from XML  Desc: Cool ices description from XML
DEBUG: Bitrate: 128     Public: 1
DEBUG: Mount: default   Dumpfile: (null)
Logfile opened
DEBUG: Initializing playlist handler...
DEBUG: Initializing builting playlist handler...
Mounted on http://127.0.0.1:8000/default
DEBUG: Builtin playlist handler serving: /MP3s/Albums/Big Star/Live At Missouri University 4:25:93/01 In The Street.mp3
DEBUG: ID3v2 tag size is 2183 bytes
DEBUG: Skipping to MP3 data
DEBUG: Layer: III               Version: MPEG-1 Frequency: 44100
DEBUG: Bitrate: 128 kbit/s      Padding: 1      Mode: j-stereo
DEBUG: Ext: 0   Mode_Ext: 0     Copyright: 0    Original: 0
DEBUG: Error Protection: 0      Emphasis: 0     Stereo: 2
Playing /MP3s/Albums/Big Star/Live At Missouri University 4:25:93/01 In The Street.mp3
DEBUG: Initially delaying metadata update...
Bus error

(The icecast logs show icecast accepting the connection, and then the
connection times out, so it's clearly an ices issue.)


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From dizznutt at my.security.nl  Sat Apr  6 10:24:38 2002
From: dizznutt at my.security.nl (dizznutt at my.security.nl)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 10:24:38 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: [icecast] Full analysis of the remotely exploitable icecast 1.3.x bugs
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Hello Icecast folks,

Attached is an analysis I slapped together detailing the exact specifics 
of the bug that is exploited with the icecast exploit I disclosed earlier 
this week. Furthermore it details another remotely exploitable bug. I sent 
this to team at icecast.org and to Jack Moffit, but have not received a response 
as of yet. So if people, like I noticed in the icecast at xiph.org list, are 
weary off applying the temporary greater than 8000 bytes string check patch 
to client.c (which makes sure you have a 192 byte buffer left for your server 
hostname and stream port..and would thus catch pretty much all possible 
attacks using said bugs) They can have a look at this analysis and apply 
temporary fixes themselfs. Untill the Icecast dev team sees it fit to release 
official patches. 

Oh and in response to the "I know how to get passwords on a default install". 
Isn't that just doable by going to http://example.icecast.server:8000/admin 
right after a default install?

If this list does not allow attachments you can also find said analysis 
at:

http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/265719

Oh and if people want to test their local systems against this bug..you 
can aquire the exploit at:
(it should be noted that this version of the exploit is just meant for linux 
x86 targets. This does not mean this bug is not exploitable on other platforms)

http://www.packetstormsecurity.nl/filedesc/icx.c.html

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From: kathy_smith at network888.com (kathy_smith at network888.com)
Date: Sat Apr  6 14:43:25 2002
Subject: [icecast] Hello
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From gluis at alsuites.com  Mon Apr  8 03:34:10 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:34:10 -0400
Subject: [icecast] [Q] Web Admin Setting
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Hi everybody. I set up a streaming server with Icecast 1.3.11, and
everything has been ok until now, except for one thing: when I try to
set a variable from the Icecast Web Interface (/admin=set page) I get
the next message:

"You must supply a variable to be changed"

The link that Icecast generates is something like this:

http://www.theserver:8000/admin?mode=change&argument=

Obviously at the end of the link left the variable's name. 

I can only change the variable's value (encoder_password in this case)
if I write directly the next line in the  browser:

http://www.theserver:8000/admin?mode=change&argument=encoder_password

<p>Does someone know how to fix this behaviour?

I looked for information on the FAQ (icecast home page) and there is
nothing about technical stuff. I searched through the net but I got
nothing. I looked for on the mail listing archives and it seems like
this problem hasn't been reported.

I hope someone can help me. Thanks in advanced.

Luis Gallardo.

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Mon Apr  8 11:26:13 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristj醤 Gu餹i Bjarnason)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:26:13 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHIEDJCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>



After babysitting liveice for few months I decided to move to Darkice. First
I tried installing Darkice on Redhat7.1 but soon gave up after endless
broken dependencies. Upgraded to Redhat7.2 and the rpms were accepted right
away.  I installed:

lame-3.91-1.i686.rpm
libogg-1.0rc3-1.i386.rpm
libvorbis-1.0rc3-1.i386.rpm
darkice-0.9-1.i386.rpm

Darkice runs but it eats up memory like hell.  I tried compiling from src
and its still leaking.  I still want to spend more time on getting Darkice
to work because believe its more stable than liveice.  Can anyone help?

Cheers,
Kristjan

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Mon Apr  8 14:34:12 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:34:12 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHIEDJCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>
Message-ID: <3CB1AA64.600@tyrell.hu>



Kristjan,

> After babysitting liveice for few months I decided to move to Darkice. First
> I tried installing Darkice on Redhat7.1 but soon gave up after endless
> broken dependencies. Upgraded to Redhat7.2 and the rpms were accepted right
> away.  I installed:
> 
> lame-3.91-1.i686.rpm
> libogg-1.0rc3-1.i386.rpm
> libvorbis-1.0rc3-1.i386.rpm
> darkice-0.9-1.i386.rpm
> 
> Darkice runs but it eats up memory like hell.  I tried compiling from src
> and its still leaking.  I still want to spend more time on getting Darkice
> to work because believe its more stable than liveice.  Can anyone help?

Hmm. Very strange. I've been using darkice 24 hours a day for over 1.5 
years now. Though it only runs 4 hours each time, but I would see a 
memory leak in such a timespan as well.

What is the rate is leaks memory? Can you send me your config file?

<p>Akos

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Mon Apr  8 15:20:11 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:20:11 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB1AA64.600@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHMEDLCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>


More info.

From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Mon Apr  8 15:37:06 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:37:06 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHMEDLCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>
Message-ID: <3CB1B922.7000603@tyrell.hu>



Kristjan,

>>From Top I can see the leak is about 120 kbytes every update (5 sec).  Most
> of the time its 120 kbytes but every 3-4 time its 120 or 116 kbytes.

What do you mean by 'update'?

> The config file is attached.  As you can see I am starting two icecast
> streams, one 128 kbits and one 64.  It also leaks with just one stream.

Very very strange. What system are you using? How do you measure the 
memory leak?

<p>Akos

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Mon Apr  8 17:20:48 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:20:48 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB1B922.7000603@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHOEDMCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>



ups, sorry for fuzzy description.  I use "top" to watch the running
processes.  It updates every 5 seconds.

I am running RedHat 7.2, download from one of Redhats mirros.  Haven't
installed any updates of Redhat 7.2.   The box is a fresh PC with Amd Athlon
1700XP, 128MB, two SoundBlaster 16 PCI using OSS drivers.

Any info missing?

Kristjan

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Subject: Re: [icecast] Darkice memory leak

<p>Kristjan,

>>From Top I can see the leak is about 120 kbytes every update (5 sec).
Most
> of the time its 120 kbytes but every 3-4 time its 120 or 116 kbytes.

What do you mean by 'update'?

> The config file is attached.  As you can see I am starting two icecast
> streams, one 128 kbits and one 64.  It also leaks with just one stream.

Very very strange. What system are you using? How do you measure the
memory leak?

<p>Akos

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Mon Apr  8 17:53:05 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:53:05 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHOEDMCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>
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Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> ups, sorry for fuzzy description.  I use "top" to watch the running
> processes.  It updates every 5 seconds.

I see, thanks.

> I am running RedHat 7.2, download from one of Redhats mirros.  Haven't
> installed any updates of Redhat 7.2.   The box is a fresh PC with Amd Athlon
> 1700XP, 128MB, two SoundBlaster 16 PCI using OSS drivers.

I have about the same box at home, and have no such problems.

> Any info missing?

How did you compile lame? Or are you using a binary?

<p>Akos

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Mon Apr  8 18:02:32 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:02:32 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB1D901.4010708@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHMEDNCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>



Tried both the binary and compiling the src.  Both leaking.

It the setting suggested in "INSTALL.lame" didn't work and so I suspected
the compiliation settings so I tried various settings.  The compiler version
is the one coming with RedHat 7.2 gcc3-3.0.1-3.

Kristjan

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Subject: Re: [icecast] Darkice memory leak

<p>Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> ups, sorry for fuzzy description.  I use "top" to watch the running
> processes.  It updates every 5 seconds.

I see, thanks.

> I am running RedHat 7.2, download from one of Redhats mirros.  Haven't
> installed any updates of Redhat 7.2.   The box is a fresh PC with Amd
Athlon
> 1700XP, 128MB, two SoundBlaster 16 PCI using OSS drivers.

I have about the same box at home, and have no such problems.

> Any info missing?

How did you compile lame? Or are you using a binary?

<p>Akos

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From brendan at icecast.org  Mon Apr  8 19:24:06 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:24:06 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices 0.2.2 and Mac OS X 10.1?
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On Friday, 05 April 2002 at 22:44, Bryant Durrell wrote:
> I've having trouble getting ices to compile under MacOS X.  Mac OS has a
> somewhat novel threads implementation (I'm being polite, here) and it
> doesn't get along well with the threads in ices -- has anyone gotten it
> to compile under MacOS X?

I haven't done it, but you might give the latest CVS a try - someone
recently contributed a patch for the log module which might cause this
crash.

IIRC there's no good reason for ices to use threads for metadata anyway.
If I get time I'll likely replace this with a simple fork.

BTW I think ices is technically in the wrong declaring thread_t. I
believe all types ending in _t are reserved...

-b

<p>> Initial errors:
> 
> Making all in thread
> cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../avl -I../log  -g -pipe -pipe -fno-common -no-cpp-precomp -flat_namespace -DHAS_TELLDIR_PROTOTYPE -fno-strict-aliasing  -I/System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE  -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/local/include/libxml2  -g -O2 -Wall -c thread.c
> In file included from thread.c:40:
> thread.h:48: conflicting types for `thread_t'
> /usr/include/mach/mach_types.h:98: previous declaration of `thread_t'
> thread.c: In function `_block_signals':
> thread.c:184: warning: implicit declaration of function `pthread_sigmask'
> thread.c: At top level:
> thread.c:70: warning: `_next_mutex_id' defined but not used
> make[2]: *** [thread.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> 
> I dug in and renamed thread_t in the ices code, and added:
> 
> #define pthread_sigmask(A,B,C) sigprocmask((A),(B),(C))
> 
> to thread/thread.h on the advice of some notes on one of the Darwin lists.
> It'll compile now, but dumps core right after startup:
> 
> [justice:/usr/local/icecast] root# bin/ices -c etc/ices.conf
> DEBUG: Sending following information to libshout:
> DEBUG: Stream: 0
> DEBUG: Host: localhost  Port: 8000
> DEBUG: Password: notreallymypasswordsorry Icy Compat: 0
> DEBUG: Name: Cool ices default name from XML    URL: Cool ices URL from XML
> DEBUG: Genre: Cool ices genre from XML  Desc: Cool ices description from XML
> DEBUG: Bitrate: 128     Public: 1
> DEBUG: Mount: default   Dumpfile: (null)
> Logfile opened
> DEBUG: Initializing playlist handler...
> DEBUG: Initializing builting playlist handler...
> Mounted on http://127.0.0.1:8000/default
> DEBUG: Builtin playlist handler serving: /MP3s/Albums/Big Star/Live At Missouri University 4:25:93/01 In The Street.mp3
> DEBUG: ID3v2 tag size is 2183 bytes
> DEBUG: Skipping to MP3 data
> DEBUG: Layer: III               Version: MPEG-1 Frequency: 44100
> DEBUG: Bitrate: 128 kbit/s      Padding: 1      Mode: j-stereo
> DEBUG: Ext: 0   Mode_Ext: 0     Copyright: 0    Original: 0
> DEBUG: Error Protection: 0      Emphasis: 0     Stereo: 2
> Playing /MP3s/Albums/Big Star/Live At Missouri University 4:25:93/01 In The Street.mp3
> DEBUG: Initially delaying metadata update...
> Bus error
> 
> (The icecast logs show icecast accepting the connection, and then the
> connection times out, so it's clearly an ices issue.)

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From npavel at ituner.com  Mon Apr  8 21:18:39 2002
From: npavel at ituner.com (Nicu Pavel)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 00:18:39 +0300
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHMEDNCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>
Message-ID: <3CB2092F.3020207@ituner.com>



Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> Tried both the binary and compiling the src.  Both leaking.
> 
> It the setting suggested in "INSTALL.lame" didn't work and so I suspected
> the compiliation settings so I tried various settings.  The compiler version
> is the one coming with RedHat 7.2 gcc3-3.0.1-3.
> 
> Kristjan

        I don't think it's a memory leak ... of course the memory decreasing it's 
just buffering ... (change kernel params in /proc
if you want other behaviour).
I didn't see to start swapping and memory comes back when other programm 
needs it.
Just let some vmstat 1 running and see if will eat up all your memory.
Try running without swap.
Nicu.

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From carl at personnelware.com  Tue Apr  9 01:00:20 2002
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:00:20 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Full analysis of the remotely exploitable icecast 1.3.x bugs
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> Oh and in response to the "I know how to get passwords on a default install".
> Isn't that just doable by going to http://example.icecast.server:8000/admin
> right after a default install?

Correct.  I tried it on one other server, got the list of sets, reported it, and have yet to find a 3rd server.  after about the 5th
attempt, I gave up trying.

Carl

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From jack at xiph.org  Tue Apr  9 01:08:44 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 19:08:44 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Full analysis of the remotely exploitable icecast 1.3.x bugs
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> > Isn't that just doable by going to http://example.icecast.server:8000/admin
> > right after a default install?
> 
> Correct.  I tried it on one other server, got the list of sets, reported it, and have yet to find a 3rd server.  after about the 5th
> attempt, I gave up trying.

I can't reproduce this, but have gotten several reports.  So I'm
confused.

jack.

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From bluhmcc at auburn.edu  Tue Apr  9 04:28:42 2002
From: bluhmcc at auburn.edu (Clayton Bluhm)
Date: 09 Apr 2002 00:28:42 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Badpassword Icecast
Message-ID: <1018326522.870.70.camel@bossk>



Hey guys.  Let me give you a run down on specs before I go into my
problem:

<p>    Computer 1 (zuckuss)
        Linux 2.2.19
        icecast 1.3.11 - compiled from source
        
        lineused to start: /usr/local/icecast/bin/icecast

        in icecast.conf ... changed:

        location 
        rp_email
        server_url
        encoder_password mypassword
        admin_password mypassword
        oper_password mypassword

        port 8010
        server_name zuckuss

<p>         the only thing it whines about is cant figure out who zuckuss
is.  (Its a local computer 192.168.10.1)

        Computer 2 (bossk)
        Linux 2.4.17
        shout 0.80 compiled from source
        line used: /usr/local/icecast/bin/shout zuckuss -P mypassword -e
8010

With my playlist all setup.  OK now when I try to connect to my running
icecast server I get:

        Kicking source 1 [bossk] [Bad Password] [encoder], connected for
0 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. -1 sources connected

Now before you go off saying run set and see what it gives me: set

             encoder_password:	mypassword 
          client_password:	prettyplease
           admin_password:	mypassword 

and shout is sending the correct password as well... opening a packet
sniffer I get:
                   SOURCE mypassword /default

howing the password go out.  This is frustrating me.  What am I doing
wrong here?  Sorry this is so long.  Thanks for your help.


-- 
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Computer Engineering Student             http://www.auburn.edu/~bluhmcc/

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Tue Apr  9 06:53:53 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:53:53 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB2092F.3020207@ituner.com>
Message-ID: <3CB29001.806@tyrell.hu>



Unfortunately I can't reproduce your memory leak reports. For example, 
here is the line about my production darkice instance from top:

   PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
27516 root      20   0  3564 3564  1340 S    95.6  1.3  47:06 darkice

<p>this as after approx 50 minutes from start, but the memory load doesn't 
change for the whole 4 hours it runs.

What's even more strange, is that darkice does not allocate memory 
itself after initialization. I can only guess that the only place memory 
can leak is in the libraries darkice uses.

Kristjan or Nicu, can you send me the exact libraries that you'r using?

<p>Akos

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Tue Apr  9 10:11:40 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:11:40 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
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Nicu, maybe you are right but what got me started watching the memory was
this log in /var/log/messages after darkice went down.

Apr  8 00:16:54 nitro kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1997 (bash).
Apr  8 00:16:59 nitro login(pam_unix)[1996]: session closed for user kgb
Apr  8 00:17:01 nitro kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2025 (bash).
Apr  8 00:17:15 nitro kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2112 (darkice).
Apr  8 00:17:16 nitro login(pam_unix)[2024]: session closed for user kgb

vmstat 1 tells me that somebody is allocating 24 kb/s because the free (idle
memory keeps decreasing).  The buffer size stays almost constant.  I watched
the memory usage for a while. Free memory went down to approx 2800 kbytes
(24 kb/s) but then it stopped and the buffersize started to decrease by the
same amount.  During both free memory and buffer decrease the swap memory
stayed almost constant.  Once the buffermemory was down to approx 400 kb the
swap memory started to decrease.  I haven't change the kernel params but I
guess that won't change anything.

Kristjan

<p>-----Original Message-----
From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of
Nicu Pavel
Sent: 8. april 2002 21:19
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] Darkice memory leak

<p>Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> Tried both the binary and compiling the src.  Both leaking.
>
> It the setting suggested in "INSTALL.lame" didn't work and so I suspected
> the compiliation settings so I tried various settings.  The compiler
version
> is the one coming with RedHat 7.2 gcc3-3.0.1-3.
>
> Kristjan

        I don't think it's a memory leak ... of course the memory decreasing it's
just buffering ... (change kernel params in /proc
if you want other behaviour).
I didn't see to start swapping and memory comes back when other programm
needs it.
Just let some vmstat 1 running and see if will eat up all your memory.
Try running without swap.
Nicu.

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Tue Apr  9 12:44:39 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:44:39 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB29001.806@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHKEEFCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>



I was looking more closely on the source for Darkice.  I found the code for
calulating the buffersize somewhat strange.  Your is snapshot taken from the
init function in CastSink.cpp :

    int       bufferSize = bitRate ? (bitRate * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration
                                   : (128 * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration;
    bufferedSink = socket ?  new BufferedSink( socket,
                                     (bufferSize * 1024 / 8) *
bufferDuration)
                          : 0;

In my case the bufferDuration is 10 and bitrate 128.  Why is the do we
multiply by 'bufferSize*1024/8*bufferDuration twice?
The constructor for BufferedSink allocates the buffer with the 2nd param as
the buffersize.  In my case the 'chunkSize' is 1 which gives bufferSize =
209.715.200 bytes.  I am wrong?  Is this healty?

Kristjan

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From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of
Akos Maroy
Sent: 9. april 2002 06:54
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] Darkice memory leak

<p>Unfortunately I can't reproduce your memory leak reports. For example,
here is the line about my production darkice instance from top:

   PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
27516 root      20   0  3564 3564  1340 S    95.6  1.3  47:06 darkice

<p>this as after approx 50 minutes from start, but the memory load doesn't
change for the whole 4 hours it runs.

What's even more strange, is that darkice does not allocate memory
itself after initialization. I can only guess that the only place memory
can leak is in the libraries darkice uses.

Kristjan or Nicu, can you send me the exact libraries that you'r using?

<p>Akos

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Tue Apr  9 12:56:18 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:56:18 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHKEEFCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>
Message-ID: <3CB2E4F2.9030605@tyrell.hu>



Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> I was looking more closely on the source for Darkice.  I found the code for
> calulating the buffersize somewhat strange.  Your is snapshot taken from the
> init function in CastSink.cpp :
> 
>     int       bufferSize = bitRate ? (bitRate * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration
>                                    : (128 * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration;
>     bufferedSink = socket ?  new BufferedSink( socket,
>                                      (bufferSize * 1024 / 8) *
> bufferDuration)
>                           : 0;
> 
> In my case the bufferDuration is 10 and bitrate 128.  Why is the do we
> multiply by 'bufferSize*1024/8*bufferDuration twice?
> The constructor for BufferedSink allocates the buffer with the 2nd param as
> the buffersize.  In my case the 'chunkSize' is 1 which gives bufferSize =
> 209.715.200 bytes.  I am wrong?  Is this healty?

Not, not healthy :)

This was a last minute change before I released 0.9. Appearantly you 
pinpointed the problem. I'll issue a 0.9.1 release shortly...

Thanks for looking into the problem and pinpointing it.

<p>Akos

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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Tue Apr  9 13:22:46 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:22:46 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB2E4F2.9030605@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020409232246.41208570@mail.labyrinth.net.au>



>Not, not healthy :)
>
>This was a last minute change before I released 0.9. Appearantly you 
>pinpointed the problem. I'll issue a 0.9.1 release shortly...
>
>Thanks for looking into the problem and pinpointing it.

It's worth noting (this presumably won't cause any real problems, but in
the interests of correctness) that in network protocols, 1 kbps == 1000 
bits per second, not 1024.

Michael

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From kgb at gangverk.is  Tue Apr  9 13:39:07 2002
From: kgb at gangverk.is (Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:39:07 -0000
Subject: [icecast] Darkice memory leak
In-Reply-To: <3CB2E4F2.9030605@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <BOEILHPIFKHLMNLGOGGHGEEHCIAA.kgb@gangverk.is>



My pleasure.  Finally I managed to return something to the open source
society.

Kristjan

<p>-----Original Message-----
From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of
Akos Maroy
Sent: 9. april 2002 12:56
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] Darkice memory leak

<p>Kristjan Gu?ni Bjarnason wrote:
> I was looking more closely on the source for Darkice.  I found the code
for
> calulating the buffersize somewhat strange.  Your is snapshot taken from
the
> init function in CastSink.cpp :
>
>     int       bufferSize = bitRate ? (bitRate * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration
>                                    : (128 * 1024 / 8) * bufferDuration;
>     bufferedSink = socket ?  new BufferedSink( socket,
>                                      (bufferSize * 1024 / 8) *
> bufferDuration)
>                           : 0;
>
> In my case the bufferDuration is 10 and bitrate 128.  Why is the do we
> multiply by 'bufferSize*1024/8*bufferDuration twice?
> The constructor for BufferedSink allocates the buffer with the 2nd param
as
> the buffersize.  In my case the 'chunkSize' is 1 which gives bufferSize =
> 209.715.200 bytes.  I am wrong?  Is this healty?

Not, not healthy :)

This was a last minute change before I released 0.9. Appearantly you
pinpointed the problem. I'll issue a 0.9.1 release shortly...

Thanks for looking into the problem and pinpointing it.

<p>Akos

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From jack at xiph.org  Tue Apr  9 14:07:12 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 08:07:12 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Badpassword Icecast
In-Reply-To: <1018326522.870.70.camel@bossk>
Message-ID: <20020409140712.GI505@babyjesus.cantcode.com>



> Now before you go off saying run set and see what it gives me: set
> 
>              encoder_password:	mypassword 
>           client_password:	prettyplease
>            admin_password:	mypassword 

Ok.  Make sure there aren't extra spaces in the config file.  It's
fairly sensitive to that.  Spaces are weird characters probably choke it
too in the password.  Try something stupid like 'asdf' and see if that
helps.

<p>As for zuckus not resolving, that's a dns issue.  Does 'host zuckus'
bring up anything?  

jack.

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From un at dom.de  Tue Apr  9 14:29:01 2002
From: un at dom.de (un at dom.de)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:29:01 +0200
Subject: [icecast] [dizznutt@my.security.nl: [Secure] Full analysis of multiple remotely exploitable bugs in Icecast 1.3.11]
Message-ID: <20020409162901.A2064@aporee.org>


hi,

don't know whether this is already covered in the list,
sorry if it's old news...
is there any 1.3.11 bugfix release out there? can't find things
on icecast.org

attached the email from bugtraq.

best, uno

<p>

<strong>attached mail follows:</strong><hr noshade>



Hello,

Attached is a full analysis to accompany the earlier disclosed remote root/shell 
exploit for the Icecast mp3 streaming server. It also details some other 
exploitable bugs besides the one that is exploited with the supplied exploit 
and thus I believe has posting value. This write-up was mainly meant to 
aid the icecast developers in locating and eliminating the exact problems,
 but I can imagine it would be of some value to other interested parties 
as well.

ltr,
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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Tue Apr  9 18:02:38 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:02:38 +0200
Subject: [icecast] MacOS X help needed
Message-ID: <3CB32CBE.6020003@tyrell.hu>



Any MacOS X developers around? I'd like to port darkice to MacOS X, but 
I don't have a Mac around, so I'd need some help...

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From marcelo at gulin.com.ar  Tue Apr  9 21:44:39 2002
From: marcelo at gulin.com.ar (Marcelo Gulin)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:44:39 -0300
Subject: [icecast] &quot;No Encoder&quot;?
Message-ID: <003001c1e00f$c1062060$0a01a8c0@w2k>


Hi guys!

  Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but
I?m still having problems:

  My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an
OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:

Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
                      |                               |
                      +                               +
              [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
box]

<p>  NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from internet.
However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream HTTP/1.O"
command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape. 

  When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I try
to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error. (I
known that the stream exists).

  Looking at icecast.log I can see:

  [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82
[199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.

<p>   So, What's the "No Encoder" mean? 
   Or, Where the F* problem is?

Thanks in advance!
Marcelo Gulin

<p><p>  

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From kurt at kujo.de  Wed Apr 10 09:43:22 2002
From: kurt at kujo.de (Kurt J. Dreistadt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:43:22 +0200
Subject: [icecast] &quot;No Encoder&quot;?
In-Reply-To: <003001c1e00f$c1062060$0a01a8c0@w2k>
Message-ID: <004101c1e074$318c7000$859ffea9@r6q9e7>



Hi,

the answer can you find in the manual.

Set the port of your WinAMP client to 7999.

There is the manual part:

2. Configuration file (icecast.conf)
-port

This is the port the icecast server uses for all connections. Admins,
clients, and sources, they all connect to this port. The old behavior,
having the clients on 8000 and the encoder on 8001, is too ugly and creates
some problems with firewalls and so. The new behavior might confuse
streamers such as winamp. WinAMP is stupid enough to connect to the
specified port + 1. So if you set the port (in WinAMP) to 8000, it will
connect to 8001. Setting it to 7999 will work though.
You can now use multiple ports, just add another port line.
port 8000
port 8001
The above will make icecast listen on 8000 and 8001.

<p>Kurt J. Dreistadt

<p>----- Original Message -----
From: Marcelo Gulin <marcelo at gulin.com.ar>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: [icecast] "No Encoder"?

<p>Hi guys!

  Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but
I?m still having problems:

  My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an
OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:

Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
                      |                               |
                      +                               +
              [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
box]

<p>  NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from internet.
However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream HTTP/1.O"
command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape.

  When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I try
to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error. (I
known that the stream exists).

  Looking at icecast.log I can see:

  [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82
[199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.

<p>   So, What's the "No Encoder" mean?
   Or, Where the F* problem is?

Thanks in advance!
Marcelo Gulin

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From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be  Wed Apr 10 09:44:48 2002
From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:44:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204050038300.492-100000@data.home>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204101138390.25233-100000@urgent.rug.ac.be>



> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Jack Moffitt wrote:
> 
> > While dynamic compression makes the transmission 'smaller' on FM radio,
> > it makes music harder to compress by psychoacoustic codecs, and therefor
> > you might have somewhat of a quality hit, although I haven't tested
> > this.
> 
> Quite possible, though I'm only using 56kbps 22khz stereo anyway so that's
> not such a big deal.  I really need it to even out levels, however, which
> is more important to me.

Here's my two cents on it.

First of all, like Jack says, it's mostly useful do to compression for FM 
radio.  The noise floor being pretty high and all that, it makes sense.

For digital music, I tend to avoid it as much as possible.  There is one 
thing you should do, though.  Most people have all of their music 
normalized, which basically means "make sure that the loudest sample is 
really close to the maximum".  It doesn't say *anything* at all about the 
average level or even the perceived level.

A very good start is to actually calculate the RMS in your songs, and 
scale your songs accordingly while playing them back.

For example, if a Destiny's Child song has an average RMS of 8000 and a 
Celine Dion song ends up at 3000 (examples are taken for broad 
applicability and are not necessarily related to my taste in music ;) ) 
you should scale down the DC song to match the RMS of the Celine Dion 
song.

In practice you take a low enough value and target all your songs to this 
value by scaling them down (don't scale up unless you KNOW you won't 
distort digitally).

I have written some small stuff that calculates this sort of thing and 
using these values it works out really well for me.

On another note, I have started to help out a lot on GStreamer 
(http://gstreamer.net/) and I think this is where the future of media on 
linux lies.  So I'll be applying my ideas there (GStreamer already has a 
libshout plugin) and start writing a decent mixer there, as well as 
probably adding support for icecast to rhythmbox 
(http://rhythmbox.sourceforge.net).

Any comments are welcomed ;)

Thomas

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Wed Apr 10 13:09:31 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:09:31 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Applying dynamic compression to live audio
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Hi:

Dynamic compression really *is* what I want.  As I stated before, we're not
pushing super quality here anyway.   I see what you're saying about RMS,
but the truth of the matter is that I'm playing from CD's not audio files
so this isn't really relevant.  As the subject says, I want dynamic
compression for live audio coming in through the soundcard, and I
unfortunately can't afford a hardware compressor.  I know that ecasound and
other ladspa aware aps can make use of existing compression/limiting code,
it's just that I can't see any way of using this.

Geoff.

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From marcelo at gulin.com.ar  Wed Apr 10 13:21:50 2002
From: marcelo at gulin.com.ar (Marcelo Gulin)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:21:50 -0300
Subject: [icecast] &quot;No Encoder&quot;?
In-Reply-To: <004101c1e074$318c7000$859ffea9@r6q9e7>
Message-ID: <000401c1e092$ad7f9070$0a01a8c0@w2k>


Hi!

   Sorry! I forget to mention that port 8001 it's open at the firewall
too. So winamp should work fine with this configuration.

Thanks anyway Kurt!

Any other ideas?
Marcelo Gulin

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From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Kurt J. Dreistadt
Sent: Mi?rcoles, 10 de Abril de 2002 06:43 a.m.
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] "No Encoder"?

<p>Hi,

the answer can you find in the manual.

Set the port of your WinAMP client to 7999.

There is the manual part:

2. Configuration file (icecast.conf)
-port

This is the port the icecast server uses for all connections. Admins,
clients, and sources, they all connect to this port. The old behavior,
having the clients on 8000 and the encoder on 8001, is too ugly and
creates some problems with firewalls and so. The new behavior might
confuse streamers such as winamp. WinAMP is stupid enough to connect to
the specified port + 1. So if you set the port (in WinAMP) to 8000, it
will connect to 8001. Setting it to 7999 will work though. You can now
use multiple ports, just add another port line. port 8000 port 8001 The
above will make icecast listen on 8000 and 8001.

<p>Kurt J. Dreistadt

<p>----- Original Message -----
From: Marcelo Gulin <marcelo at gulin.com.ar>
To: <icecast at xiph.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: [icecast] "No Encoder"?

<p>Hi guys!

  Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but
I?m still having problems:

  My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an
OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:

Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
                      |                               |
                      +                               +
              [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
box]

<p>  NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from internet.
However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream HTTP/1.O"
command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape.

  When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I try
to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error. (I
known that the stream exists).

  Looking at icecast.log I can see:

  [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82
[199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.

<p>   So, What's the "No Encoder" mean?
   Or, Where the F* problem is?

Thanks in advance!
Marcelo Gulin

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From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu  Wed Apr 10 13:53:41 2002
From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:53:41 -0400
Subject: [icecast] &quot;No Encoder&quot;?
In-Reply-To: <000401c1e092$ad7f9070$0a01a8c0@w2k>
Message-ID: <3CB443E5.181008F2@gactr.uga.edu>



What's happening in IPF ? Got any log info there?

<p>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcelo Gulin <marcelo at gulin.com.ar>
> To: <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:44 PM
> Subject: [icecast] "No Encoder"?
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
>   Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but
> I?m still having problems:
> 
>   My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an
> OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:
> 
> Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
>                       |                               |
>                       +                               +
>               [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
> box]
> 
>   NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from internet.
> However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream HTTP/1.O"
> command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape.
> 
>   When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I try
> to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error. (I
> known that the stream exists).
> 
>   Looking at icecast.log I can see:
> 
>   [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82
> [199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.
> 
>    So, What's the "No Encoder" mean?
>    Or, Where the F* problem is?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Marcelo Gulin


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From jimshep at mindspring.com  Wed Apr 10 14:18:06 2002
From: jimshep at mindspring.com (Jim Shepherd)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:18:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [icecast] 'No Encoder'?
In-Reply-To: <000401c1e092$ad7f9070$0a01a8c0@w2k>
Message-ID: <28508.64.133.97.147.1018448286.squirrel@66.149.8.8>



I had similar problems with some streams I was serving from my home LAN.  I
have a DSL connection to the internet.  My understanding now is that DSL
uses an MTU setting of ~1490, while the MTU settings on my DSL router and
PCs was 1500.  By changing the MTU settings on my DSL router and PCs to
1450, everything worked fine.

Jim Shepherd

Marcelo Gulin said:
> Hi!
>
>   Sorry! I forget to mention that port 8001 it's open at the firewall
> too. So winamp should work fine with this configuration.
>
> Thanks anyway Kurt!
>
> Any other ideas?
> Marcelo Gulin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf
> Of Kurt J. Dreistadt
> Sent: Mi?rcoles, 10 de Abril de 2002 06:43 a.m.
> To: icecast at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [icecast] "No Encoder"?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the answer can you find in the manual.
>
> Set the port of your WinAMP client to 7999.
>
> There is the manual part:
>
> 2. Configuration file (icecast.conf)
> -port
>
> This is the port the icecast server uses for all connections. Admins,
> clients, and sources, they all connect to this port. The old behavior,
> having the clients on 8000 and the encoder on 8001, is too ugly and
> creates some problems with firewalls and so. The new behavior might
> confuse streamers such as winamp. WinAMP is stupid enough to connect to
> the specified port + 1. So if you set the port (in WinAMP) to 8000, it
> will connect to 8001. Setting it to 7999 will work though. You can now
> use multiple ports, just add another port line. port 8000 port 8001 The
> above will make icecast listen on 8000 and 8001.
>
>
> Kurt J. Dreistadt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcelo Gulin <marcelo at gulin.com.ar>
> To: <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:44 PM
> Subject: [icecast] "No Encoder"?
>
>
> Hi guys!
>
>  Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but
> I?m still having problems:
>
>  My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an
> OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:
>
> Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
>                      |                               |
>                      +                               +
>              [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
> box]
>
>
>  NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from internet.
> However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream HTTP/1.O"
> command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape.
>
>  When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I try
> to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error. (I
> known that the stream exists).
>
>  Looking at icecast.log I can see:
>
>  [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82
> [199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.
>
>
>   So, What's the "No Encoder" mean?
>   Or, Where the F* problem is?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Marcelo Gulin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From gluis at alsuites.com  Wed Apr 10 14:33:18 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:33:18 -0400
Subject: [icecast] [Q] Web Admin Setting
Message-ID: <3CB44D2E.D36611BA@alsuites.com>



Hi everybody. I don't know if this message was received before. Sorry if
it was.

I set up a streaming server with Icecast 1.3.11, and
everything has been ok until now, except for one thing: when I try to
set a variable from the Icecast Web Interface (/admin=set page) I get
the next message:

"You must supply a variable to be changed"

The link that Icecast generates is something like this:

http://www.theserver:8000/admin?mode=change&argument=

Obviously at the end of the link left the variable's name. 

I can only change the variable's value (encoder_password in this case)
if I write directly the next line in the  browser:

http://www.theserver:8000/admin?mode=change&argument=encoder_password

<p>Does someone know how to fix this behaviour?

I looked for information on the FAQ (icecast home page) and there is
nothing about technical stuff. I searched through the net but I got
nothing. I looked for on the mail listing archives and it seems like
this problem hasn't been reported.

I hope someone can help me. Thanks in advanced.

Luis Gallardo.

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From jack at xiph.org  Wed Apr 10 21:49:27 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:49:27 -0600
Subject: [icecast] URGENT: security exploit fix
Message-ID: <20020410214927.GQ505@babyjesus.cantcode.com>



To all users:

The recently exploits announced at bugtraq can be fixed by the following
patch.  This patch should fix a few other potential holes as well, and I
will post a followup patch soon that is even more thorough.

Note: this exploit would give the attacker priviledges of the user
running icecast.  If you are running icecast as a normal user account or
as root, this would be a good time to run it as nobody or some other
unpriveledged account.

Anyone running icecast as root better upgrade fast and do a search for
rootkits or other odd behaviors on their systems.

Regards,
jack.

----- Forwarded message from Jack Moffitt <jack at shredder.sneakyninja.com> -----

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: jack at shredder.sneakyninja.com (Jack Moffitt)
To: cvs at icecast.org
Subject: cvs commit: icecast/src avl_functions.c source.c
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=10.0 tests=UNIFIED_PATCH,NO_MX_FOR_FROM version=2.11

jack        02/04/10 14:36:27

  Modified:    src      avl_functions.c source.c
  Log:
  Fix security exploit (icx.c) that exploited a buffer overflow in the alias
  logic.

Revision  Changes    Path
1.9       +4 -4      icecast/src/avl_functions.c

Index: avl_functions.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/icecast/src/avl_functions.c,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -r1.8 -r1.9
--- avl_functions.c	26 May 2000 15:47:55 -0000	1.8
+++ avl_functions.c	10 Apr 2002 21:36:27 -0000	1.9
@@ -156,8 +156,8 @@
                 write_log (LOG_DEFAULT, "WARNING: compare_relays() called with NULL pointers!");
         }
 
-	sprintf (cfirst, "%s:%d%s", r1->req.host, r1->req.port, r1->req.path);
-	sprintf (csecond, "%s:%d%s", r2->req.host, r2->req.port, r2->req.path);
+	snprintf (cfirst, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d%s", r1->req.host, r1->req.port, r1->req.path);
+	snprintf (csecond, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d%s", r2->req.host, r2->req.port, r2->req.path);
         return ice_strcmp (cfirst, csecond);
 }
 
@@ -188,8 +188,8 @@
                 return -1;
         }
         
-	sprintf (full, "%s:%d%s", a1->name->host, a1->name->port, a1->name->path);
-	sprintf (full2, "%s:%d%s", a2->name->host, a2->name->port, a2->name->path);
+	snprintf (full, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d%s", a1->name->host, a1->name->port, a1->name->path);
+	snprintf (full2, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d%s", a2->name->host, a2->name->port, a2->name->path);
 
         return ice_strcmp (full, full2);
 }

<p><p>1.35      +1 -1      icecast/src/source.c

Index: source.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/icecast/src/source.c,v
retrieving revision 1.34
retrieving revision 1.35
diff -u -r1.34 -r1.35
--- source.c	7 Aug 2001 19:16:14 -0000	1.34
+++ source.c	10 Apr 2002 21:36:27 -0000	1.35
@@ -608,7 +608,7 @@
 
         xa_debug (1, "DEBUG: Search local mount points");
 
-	sprintf(pathbuf, "%s:%d%s", req->host[0] ? req->host : "localhost", req->port, req->path);
+	snprintf(pathbuf, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d%s", req->host[0] ? req->host : "localhost", req->port, req->path);
 
         while ((con = avl_traverse(info.sources, &trav)) != NULL) 
         {

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From jack at xiph.org  Wed Apr 10 23:05:50 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:05:50 -0600
Subject: [icecast] URGENT: icecast 1.3.12 released
Message-ID: <20020410230550.GT505@babyjesus.cantcode.com>



Icecast 1.3.12 fixes the current known exploit for icecast as well as
closing many other potential holes.

Thanks to diz for the original report and analysis and to dave from
jetcafe.org for a comprehensive prophylatic patch.

<p>Again, I warn:  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS ROOT.  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS A
PRIVELEDGED USER.

<p>If you have been running icecast as root, there is an exploit in the
wild.  Please take appropriate measures to ensure you weren't affected.

jack.

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From marcelo at gulin.com.ar  Thu Apr 11 02:41:48 2002
From: marcelo at gulin.com.ar (Marcelo Gulin)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:41:48 -0300
Subject: [icecast] &quot;No Encoder&quot;?
In-Reply-To: <3CB443E5.181008F2@gactr.uga.edu>
Message-ID: <000401c1e102$6e3cd830$0a01a8c0@w2k>


Hi!

  Thanks Robin but my problem was mount_fallback set to 0 in
icecast.conf. my fault!

Thanks anyway to all!

Cheers
Marcelo Guiln

<p>-----Original Message-----
From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org] On Behalf
Of Robin P. Blanchard
Sent: Mi?rcoles, 10 de Abril de 2002 10:54 a.m.
To: icecast at xiph.org; marcelo at gulin.com.ar
Subject: Re: [icecast] "No Encoder"?

<p>What's happening in IPF ? Got any log info there?

<p>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcelo Gulin <marcelo at gulin.com.ar>
> To: <icecast at xiph.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:44 PM
> Subject: [icecast] "No Encoder"?
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
>   Thanks to your help I've my IceCast/LiveIce server up & running but 
> I?m still having problems:
> 
>   My IceCast server is on the internal LAN and it's NAT'ed behind an 
> OpenBSD IPF firewall. Here's my network setup:
> 
> Internet ---- [OpenBSD firewall] ---- hub ---- [IceCast server]
>                       |                               |
>                       +                               +
>               [port 8000 redirected]           [NAT'ed 192.168.100.x
> box]
> 
>   NAT is working fine because I can connect to port 8000 from 
> internet. However, when I telnet to IceCast port and send "GET /stream

> HTTP/1.O" command, I can't get the stream from winamp nor IE/Netscape.
> 
>   When I connect from an internal machine all works fine but when I 
> try to connect from internet I've get an "404 Stream Not Found" Error.

> (I known that the stream exists).
> 
>   Looking at icecast.log I can see:
> 
>   [09/Apr/2002:14:00:36] [86:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 82 
> [199.6.98.xxx] [No encoder], connected for 2 seconds.
> 
>    So, What's the "No Encoder" mean?
>    Or, Where the F* problem is?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Marcelo Gulin


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From roy at lamrim.com  Thu Apr 11 08:48:10 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:48:10 -0700
Subject: [icecast] URGENT: icecast 1.3.12 released
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Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020411013341.00aa5360@mail.lamrim.com>



Dear Jack --

On behalf of Icecasters everywhere, thanks for the ultra-fast update!!!

I'm also now running safely as non-root, thanks to your advice.

Roy

At 05:05 PM 04/10/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Icecast 1.3.12 fixes the current known exploit for icecast as well as
>closing many other potential holes.
>
>Thanks to diz for the original report and analysis and to dave from
>jetcafe.org for a comprehensive prophylatic patch.
>
>
>Again, I warn:  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS ROOT.  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS A
>PRIVELEDGED USER.
>
>
>If you have been running icecast as root, there is an exploit in the
>wild.  Please take appropriate measures to ensure you weren't affected.
>
>jack.
>
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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Thu Apr 11 09:20:36 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:20:36 +0200
Subject: [icecast] user feedback in icecast2
Message-ID: <3CB55564.8070703@tyrell.hu>



A question to icecast2 developers: is there a possibility to have some 
sort of user feedback in icecast2? I'm thinking of having a client that 
would send some info back though the same socket it receives the stream. 
If no such feature currently exist, where should I start to implement it?

Thanks,

<p>Akos

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From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be  Thu Apr 11 13:21:33 2002
From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:21:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] URGENT: icecast 1.3.12 released
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020411013341.00aa5360@mail.lamrim.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204111521010.20005-100000@urgent.rug.ac.be>



I updated my spec file and RPM's to use the new release, if you want them 
they're available at
http://urgent.rug.ac.be/thomas/icecast/

Feedback is welcomed of course.

Thomas

> Dear Jack --
> 
> On behalf of Icecasters everywhere, thanks for the ultra-fast update!!!
> 
> I'm also now running safely as non-root, thanks to your advice.
> 
> Roy
> 
> At 05:05 PM 04/10/02 -0600, you wrote:
> >Icecast 1.3.12 fixes the current known exploit for icecast as well as
> >closing many other potential holes.
> >
> >Thanks to diz for the original report and analysis and to dave from
> >jetcafe.org for a comprehensive prophylatic patch.
> >
> >
> >Again, I warn:  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS ROOT.  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS A
> >PRIVELEDGED USER.
> >
> >
> >If you have been running icecast as root, there is an exploit in the
> >wild.  Please take appropriate measures to ensure you weren't affected.
> >
> >jack.
> >
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From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be  Thu Apr 11 13:25:26 2002
From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:25:26 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] URGENT: icecast 1.3.12 released
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204111521010.20005-100000@urgent.rug.ac.be>
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Oh yeah, don't forget to backup your config file first, or adapt it if 
it's a new install.

Thomas

<p>> I updated my spec file and RPM's to use the new release, if you want them 
> they're available at
> http://urgent.rug.ac.be/thomas/icecast/
> 
> Feedback is welcomed of course.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> > Dear Jack --
> > 
> > On behalf of Icecasters everywhere, thanks for the ultra-fast update!!!
> > 
> > I'm also now running safely as non-root, thanks to your advice.
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > At 05:05 PM 04/10/02 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Icecast 1.3.12 fixes the current known exploit for icecast as well as
> > >closing many other potential holes.
> > >
> > >Thanks to diz for the original report and analysis and to dave from
> > >jetcafe.org for a comprehensive prophylatic patch.
> > >
> > >
> > >Again, I warn:  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS ROOT.  DO NOT RUN ICECAST AS A
> > >PRIVELEDGED USER.
> > >
> > >
> > >If you have been running icecast as root, there is an exploit in the
> > >wild.  Please take appropriate measures to ensure you weren't affected.
> > >
> > >jack.
> > >
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From jack at xiph.org  Thu Apr 11 15:41:00 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:41:00 -0600
Subject: [icecast] user feedback in icecast2
In-Reply-To: <3CB55564.8070703@tyrell.hu>
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> A question to icecast2 developers: is there a possibility to have some 
> sort of user feedback in icecast2? I'm thinking of having a client that 
> would send some info back though the same socket it receives the stream. 
> If no such feature currently exist, where should I start to implement it?

As in feedback on quality of the stream?  I think we will probably
experiement with stuff like this, but ti will probably be after we
actually do a few releases of icecast2 code.

jack.

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From kerry.cox at ksl.com  Thu Apr 11 16:48:12 2002
From: kerry.cox at ksl.com (Kerry Cox)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:48:12 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Simple broadcasting of radio stream
Message-ID: <3CB5BE4C.CEF902DE@ksl.com>



Howdy, been using icecast for a couple years now, and am wanting to move
to the latest icecast and ices. I downloaded and compiled icecast-1.3.12
and ices-0.2.2 and they installed nicely. I got icecast to work alright
with liveice, but I would like to test ices. I have been mucking about
with the config file, but it keeps asking for a playlist. I simply want
to re-encode the radio audio stream being piped into the box's sound
card and encode it using the latest lame. Liveice works fine this way.
Any suggestions for configuring ices to simply re-distribute the audio
stream in MP3 format? Thanks. I can include a copy of my ices config,
but it's just like the sample one provided. I only want it to be
broadcast at 16 kbps and 16khz since it is just talk radio.
You cna listen to the current stream at http://icecast.ksl.com:8000/ on
XMMS. Just looking to make things better and more secure.
Thanks.
Kerry

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From simensen at halogen.org  Thu Apr 11 16:48:25 2002
From: simensen at halogen.org (Beau D. Simensen)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:48:25 -0700
Subject: [icecast] alternatives to liveice and darkice
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are there any decent alternatives to live audio streaming [via. soundcard]
to darkice or liveice? after a few days fighting with darkice, i finally
managed to bring it up only to see that it takes 55% of my cpu just to
encode one 128kbps stream using libmp3lame. a similar 128kbps stream only
takes up 36% cpu using liveice. maybe i have something configured wrong, but
i was sortof expecting darkice to be a little less resource intensive than
liveice...

maybe i have something configured incorrectly with darkice?

in any event, if there are some great alternatives to liveice or darkice out
there, i'd be happy to look into them. i was extremely happy to have found
ices a few months ago. it had been there all along, just not described or
explained very well. i'm guessing there is something else out there i just
didn't notice yet waiting to be used. =)

thanks!

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From npavel at ituner.com  Thu Apr 11 17:01:07 2002
From: npavel at ituner.com (Nicu Pavel)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:01:07 +0300
Subject: [icecast] alternatives to liveice and darkice
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> are there any decent alternatives to live audio streaming [via. soundcard]
> to darkice or liveice? after a few days fighting with darkice, i finally
> managed to bring it up only to see that it takes 55% of my cpu just to
> encode one 128kbps stream using libmp3lame. a similar 128kbps stream only
> takes up 36% cpu using liveice. maybe i have something configured wrong, but
> i was sortof expecting darkice to be a little less resource intensive than
> liveice...
> 
> maybe i have something configured incorrectly with darkice?

By default darkice set quality for mp3 encoding to 2 which is a high 
quality setting you can modify the sources to set quality to something 
like 7 and this will reduce cpu usage a lot.
There is a patch thats adds quality and vbr,abr mode to be configured by
config file but I am not sure Akos had included yet :).

Nicu.

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From dom at earth.li  Thu Apr 11 16:58:44 2002
From: dom at earth.li (Dominic Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:58:44 +0100
Subject: [icecast] aliasing in icecast2
Message-ID: <20020411175843.F14267@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk>



Hi,

I've been investigating setting up an icecast2 proxy to proxy an ogg 
stream. In icecast 1, I would use the "alias" configuration entry to set 
up the proxying. In icecast 2, I haven't been able to find any mention of 
this functionality. Does it exist? 

The message http://www.xiph.org/archives/icecast/1546.html implies that it 
is possible, but I've not found out how.

If not, are there any obvious alternatives for setting up an ogg streaming
proxy?

Thanks,

Dom.


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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Thu Apr 11 17:05:19 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:05:19 +0200
Subject: [icecast] user feedback in icecast2
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Jack Moffitt wrote:
> As in feedback on quality of the stream?  I think we will probably
> experiement with stuff like this, but ti will probably be after we
> actually do a few releases of icecast2 code.

That's one possibility. But the user may send feedback himself, like "I 
like what I'm hearing now" or "I don't like what I'm hearing now"

I guess on the technical level, this all would go the same way.

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From bowserj at unbc.ca  Thu Apr 11 17:07:08 2002
From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:07:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] alternatives to liveice and darkice
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Beau D. Simensen wrote:

> in any event, if there are some great alternatives to liveice or darkice out
> there, i'd be happy to look into them. i was extremely happy to have found
> ices a few months ago. it had been there all along, just not described or
> explained very well. i'm guessing there is something else out there i just
> didn't notice yet waiting to be used. =)
> 

Well, I like the muse project for mp3 streaming.  I haven't look at it 
recently, but I think it's still at http://muse.dyne.org.  It's a bit more 
resource intensive than liveice, but it has a nice interface, and is more 
feature rich than the others.

Of course, I think that when it comes to icecast2, I'd use ices for all my 
OggVorbis streaming.  (I tried darkice a while ago, but I wasn't too 
impressed with it as an Mp3 streamer, however it's an OK Ogg streamer.)


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From alex at x3ja.co.uk  Thu Apr 11 19:42:09 2002
From: alex at x3ja.co.uk (Alex Walker)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:42:09 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Aliases and re-encoding
Message-ID: <20020411204209.K29565@x3ja.co.uk>



I only just joined this list, I did search the archives for relevant
stuff, but didn't find anything.  Sorry if I ask some FAQs.

I have a couple of questions now that I have got icecast/ices/libshout
and relevant libraries all installed and running...

<p>i)	Is there anywhere that all the XML tags in the config files are
        specified?  Or are all of them contained in the samples?
ii)	The aliases feature that is in v1.  Is that available in v2?  I
        want to basically proxy an incoming Ogg stream to people on my
        network to save external bandwidth usage.  if using an icecast
        server here isn't the best idea - please suggest alternatives.
iii)	I am currently streaming some local Ogg files.  My processor is
        running at 50% all the time whilst doing so, so I assume they
        are being decoded and encoded and then sent.  Is there a way I
        can stop this happening?  So they are transmitted as encoded.
        I tried setting the nominal-bitrate to the same as the nominal
        bitrate at which my Oggs were encoded, but this doesn't seem to
        affect behaviour.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Alex


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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Thu Apr 11 23:38:36 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:38:36 +1000
Subject: [icecast] aliasing in icecast2
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At 05:58 PM 4/11/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've been investigating setting up an icecast2 proxy to proxy an ogg 
>stream. In icecast 1, I would use the "alias" configuration entry to set 
>up the proxying. In icecast 2, I haven't been able to find any mention of 
>this functionality. Does it exist? 

It isn't currently implemented. I guess that's something that'll be
added at some point in the future.

Michael

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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Thu Apr 11 23:40:39 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:40:39 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Aliases and re-encoding
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At 08:42 PM 4/11/02 +0100, you wrote:
>I only just joined this list, I did search the archives for relevant
>stuff, but didn't find anything.  Sorry if I ask some FAQs.
>
>I have a couple of questions now that I have got icecast/ices/libshout
>and relevant libraries all installed and running...
>
>
>i)	Is there anywhere that all the XML tags in the config files are
>	specified?  Or are all of them contained in the samples?

I think they're all in the examples at the moment. Full documentation
will follow at some point.

>ii)	The aliases feature that is in v1.  Is that available in v2?  I
>	want to basically proxy an incoming Ogg stream to people on my
>	network to save external bandwidth usage.  if using an icecast
>	server here isn't the best idea - please suggest alternatives.

Not in version 2 yet. I don't know of any alternatives at the moment.

>iii)	I am currently streaming some local Ogg files.  My processor is
>	running at 50% all the time whilst doing so, so I assume they
>	are being decoded and encoded and then sent.  Is there a way I
>	can stop this happening?  So they are transmitted as encoded.
>	I tried setting the nominal-bitrate to the same as the nominal
>	bitrate at which my Oggs were encoded, but this doesn't seem to
>	affect behaviour.

Are you using ices2? If so, turn reencoding off. One of the sample
config files turns it on for one of the two streams it sends - DO
NOT use the config files without significant modifications, they're
examples, not ready-to-use configs.

Michael

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From dominic.hargreaves at magdalen.oxford.ac.uk  Thu Apr 11 23:49:16 2002
From: dominic.hargreaves at magdalen.oxford.ac.uk (Dominic Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:49:16 +0100
Subject: [icecast] aliasing in icecast2
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:38:36AM +1000, Michael Smith wrote:
> At 05:58 PM 4/11/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've been investigating setting up an icecast2 proxy to proxy an ogg 
> >stream. In icecast 1, I would use the "alias" configuration entry to set 
> >up the proxying. In icecast 2, I haven't been able to find any mention of 
> >this functionality. Does it exist? 
> 
> It isn't currently implemented. I guess that's something that'll be
> added at some point in the future.

Ok, thanks.

In case any list members are interested, I found something that fits the 
bill for the time being:

http://www.jcraft.com/jroar/

Cheers,

Dom.


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From jacol at vlo.ids.gda.pl  Fri Apr 12 00:10:13 2002
From: jacol at vlo.ids.gda.pl (Jacek Jedrzejczak)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:10:13 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.33.0204120207231.5136-100000@zeus.vlo.ids.gda.pl>



Hello,

Recently, I've been testing icecast-1.3.12 and shoutcast-1.8.9 and I've
noticed strange regularity. No mater which client i use - xmms(1.2.6) or
winmap(2.79), pre-buffering faze on client's side takes much more time on
stream served by icecast.

I'm willing to say, that speed of pre-buffering process on icecast is
limited to stream's bit-rate, but I'm not sure about that.

Is it true ? And if it is, is there any way to change that behavior ?

Thank you in advance,

        Jack.

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From doctorj at softhome.net  Fri Apr 12 01:54:44 2002
From: doctorj at softhome.net (Josh Hansen)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:54:44 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Aliases and re-encoding
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Message-ID: <200204111954.44076.doctorj@softhome.net>



To broadcast without re-encoding, just comment out everything inside the 
<encode> tag - that worked for me anyway. It will just transmit at the rate 
the original files are encoded in.

- Josh

On Thursday, April 11, 2002 01:42 pm, Alex Walker wrote:
> I only just joined this list, I did search the archives for relevant
> stuff, but didn't find anything.  Sorry if I ask some FAQs.
>
> I have a couple of questions now that I have got icecast/ices/libshout
> and relevant libraries all installed and running...
>
>
> i)	Is there anywhere that all the XML tags in the config files are
> 	specified?  Or are all of them contained in the samples?
> ii)	The aliases feature that is in v1.  Is that available in v2?  I
> 	want to basically proxy an incoming Ogg stream to people on my
> 	network to save external bandwidth usage.  if using an icecast
> 	server here isn't the best idea - please suggest alternatives.
> iii)	I am currently streaming some local Ogg files.  My processor is
> 	running at 50% all the time whilst doing so, so I assume they
> 	are being decoded and encoded and then sent.  Is there a way I
> 	can stop this happening?  So they are transmitted as encoded.
> 	I tried setting the nominal-bitrate to the same as the nominal
> 	bitrate at which my Oggs were encoded, but this doesn't seem to
> 	affect behaviour.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Alex

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Apr 12 02:04:13 2002
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 21:04:13 -0500
Subject: [icecast] alternatives to liveice and darkice
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At 10:07 AM 4/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Beau D. Simensen wrote:
>
> > in any event, if there are some great alternatives to liveice or 
> darkice out
> > there, i'd be happy to look into them. i was extremely happy to have found
> > ices a few months ago. it had been there all along, just not described or
> > explained very well. i'm guessing there is something else out there i just
> > didn't notice yet waiting to be used. =)
> >
I'll take this opportunity to push my own product....

http://www.oddsock.org/tools/dsp_oddcast/xmms

now with line-in recording ! It slices, it dices, it shoutcasts, it 
icecasts, it icecast2s, it oggs, it vorbis', it mp3s, you get the idea.

oddsock

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From jack at xiph.org  Fri Apr 12 02:03:30 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:03:30 -0600
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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> Is it true ? And if it is, is there any way to change that behavior ?

Yes.  Icecast always sends data at the data rate.  This behavior will
not change in the 1.3.x branch.  We will however try and make
prebuffering as fast as possible in 2.x (it's currently done the same
way, but we plan to add this feature).

jack.

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Fri Apr 12 04:39:10 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:39:10 +1000
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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Hi:

the reason why streams served by shoutcast start more quickly than ones
served by icecast is that shoutcast servers have a stream buffer (1mb I
think it is) which it pushes out to clients as quickly as it can upon
connection.  This has a couple of side effects, the most noticable being
that there is always an appreciable delay on streams served by shoutcast
between the time audio is encoded and the time it is heard.  At 16kbps,
this can be several minutes.

Geoff.

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From jack at xiph.org  Fri Apr 12 04:52:47 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:52:47 -0600
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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> the reason why streams served by shoutcast start more quickly than ones
> served by icecast is that shoutcast servers have a stream buffer (1mb I
> think it is) which it pushes out to clients as quickly as it can upon
> connection.  This has a couple of side effects, the most noticable being
> that there is always an appreciable delay on streams served by shoutcast
> between the time audio is encoded and the time it is heard.  At 16kbps,
> this can be several minutes.

So it's probably a good idea for this feature to be configurable :)

jack.

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From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Apr 12 05:14:30 2002
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:14:30 -0500
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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> > Is it true ? And if it is, is there any way to change that behavior ?
>
> Yes.  Icecast always sends data at the data rate.  This behavior will
> not change in the 1.3.x branch.  We will however try and make
> prebuffering as fast as possible in 2.x (it's currently done the same
> way, but we plan to add this feature).

Doesn't icecast send the data out as fast as it gets it from the source?  I am not sure how it could send  it out any faster.  It is
the client that figures out how much it wants to buffer before it starts playing.  right?

Carl Karsten

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Fri Apr 12 05:40:00 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:40:00 +1000
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Jack Moffitt wrote:

> So it's probably a good idea for this feature to be configurable :)

Oh yeah.  I haven't looked at shoutcast recently, but last time I did, this
wasn't and the E-mails we sent them went unanswered.

Geoff.

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Apr 12 13:54:47 2002
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:54:47 -0500
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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At 12:14 AM 4/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > Is it true ? And if it is, is there any way to change that behavior ?
> >
> > Yes.  Icecast always sends data at the data rate.  This behavior will
> > not change in the 1.3.x branch.  We will however try and make
> > prebuffering as fast as possible in 2.x (it's currently done the same
> > way, but we plan to add this feature).
how about if you add the ability to send out a static file when the client 
first connects....something on the order
of "You are listening to blah blah blah..."...When a client connects you 
could fill up (depending on the length of the
file) most of the client buffer (on the icecast2 side) with the static 
file, and might eliminate the prebuffering....

it might be easier (and more desirable) to implement then server-side 
buffering...

ure, you'd still have to wait to get to the actual stream, but you would 
get *something* quickly...

does this make sense ?

oddsock

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Fri Apr 12 16:55:55 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 12:55:55 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Web Admin Settings
Message-ID: <3CB7119B.72742587@alsuites.com>



Hi everybody. I'm still trying to solve the problem with link in the set
mode page (web admin interface). I have seen in the source  file
(item.c) that it is suppose to return and string, but it's returning
nothing. It's ware it can't build the link correctly, because only left
the argument value, and each value is printed previously. I'm going to
keep hacking to try to resolve the problem.

I found an php tool, but I wouldn't use it, because I think that the Web
Interface that comes with Icecast works, and one little problem is not
an excuse to use another tool.

I'm really interested in that the icecast web interface works, because
the server where it is installed has strict access policies and I can't
access to the admin console.

I would thanks to anybody that can help me.

Luis Gallardo.
Caracas - Venezuela.

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From daniel at electricrain.com  Fri Apr 12 17:43:46 2002
From: daniel at electricrain.com (Dan Sully)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:43:46 -0700
Subject: [icecast] ices resync problem
Message-ID: <20020412174346.GG3755@electricrain.com>



Has anyone had this problem when using ices?

It's linked against lame 3.91 MMX

mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 55 bits!
bitstream problem: resyncing...

command line is
ices -R -c /etc/icecast/ices.conf

reencode is on to a 96 resample bitrate.

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From carl at personnelware.com  Fri Apr 12 18:20:27 2002
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:20:27 -0500
Subject: [icecast] telnet to admin Was Web Admin Settings
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> I'm really interested in that the icecast web interface works, because
> the server where it is installed has strict access policies and I can't
> access to the admin console.

If you can access the stream, you should be able to access the admin console. 

I have had some problems though:  
If I use Win2000's telnet, I can get an admin console.
C:\>telnet 192.168.1.1 8000
screen clears, I blindly (no echo) type: "ADMIN password<enter><enter>" and see:
OK
-> [12/Apr/2002:13:19:05] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 1] [Clients: 2] [A
dmins: 2] [Uptime: 19 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes and 2 seconds]
->

I get no echo when I enter commands, but the commands do work.

If I use Putty, I get:

HTTP/1.0 306 Grow up
Server: icecast/1.3.11
Connection: close
... 306 Request all messed up....

Soo... Anyone know how to get echo on W2k's telnet, or how to get Putty do work at all?

Carl Karsten

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Fri Apr 12 19:42:27 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:42:27 -0400
Subject: [icecast] telnet to admin Was Web Admin Settings
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Carl Karsten wrote:
> 
> > I'm really interested in that the icecast web interface works, because
> > the server where it is installed has strict access policies and I can't
> > access to the admin console.
> 
> If you can access the stream, you should be able to access the admin console.

Thanks, you're right. But now I would like to resolve the problem,
because I'm no the only administrator and a web interface is more
friendly (special for Win users). In fact, I'm traslanting all the
Icecast Web Interface to spanish.

> Carl Karsten
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From jacol at ids.gda.pl  Fri Apr 12 21:58:00 2002
From: jacol at ids.gda.pl (Jacek Jedrzejczak)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 23:58:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] admin console problem on FreeBSD
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Hello,

There is a problem with icecast-1.3.12 on FreeBSD, here's what happens:

test> tar -zxvf icecast-1.3.12.tar.gz
test> cd icecast-1.3.12/
test> ./configure; make
test> cd conf
test> vi icecast.conf.dist
console_mode 3
test> ../src/icecast -c icecast.conf.dist

test> telnet localhost 8000
ADMIN hackme

OK
-> quit
Uh, ok, bye!
Connection closed by foreign host.

test> telnet localhost 8000
ADMIN hackme

... and it done ! No other sources or admins can connect. No further
authorization is possible.

I believe it's a problem with threads.

        Jack.

P.S. This problem doesn't exist on Linux (checked on slack 8.1 running
kernel 2.4.17).

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From roy at lamrim.com  Sat Apr 13 04:21:44 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:21:44 -0700
Subject: [icecast] pre-buffering
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I second the request!  Please.

Roy

At 08:54 AM 04/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
>how about if you add the ability to send out a static file when the client 
>first connects....something on the order
>of "You are listening to blah blah blah..."...When a client connects you 
>could fill up (depending on the length of the
>file) most of the client buffer (on the icecast2 side) with the static 
>file, and might eliminate the prebuffering....
>
>it might be easier (and more desirable) to implement then server-side 
>buffering...
>
>sure, you'd still have to wait to get to the actual stream, but you would 
>get *something* quickly...
>
>does this make sense ?

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Tue Apr 16 02:38:49 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:38:49 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Hi,

I'm the newbiest of newbies but recently converted over to linux from
WinNT...woohoo!

All is going well EXCEPT for replacing my Shoutcast server.

I'm able to compile icecast but am unable to compile ices due to some
missing libraries?

Can someone send me to a BEGINNER "HOW TO" that would describe the steps for
compiling and installing ices on my Mandrake 8.2 server?  I think I could
figure the rest out on my own.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Wade

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From gshang at uq.net.au  Tue Apr 16 02:48:39 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:48:39 +1000
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Hi:

Well, you'll definitely need libshout.  We can't really help you much
further unless you tell us the error message you're getting.

Geoff.

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Tue Apr 16 10:50:47 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:50:47 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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thanks Geoff.  I was going to spare everyone the details and continue my
search but I sincerely appreciate the help.

Here's the output from 'configure', 'make', and 'make install', as best I
could capture it.

I'm not editing any of the make files or using any flags.

This is the latest version if ices that is on icecast.org.  It appears that
libshout came with the tar file.

Again, icecast itself seems to be working properly as the configure, make,
make install resulted in binaries.  I'm using mandrake 8.2.

Wade

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<p>Hi:

Well, you'll definitely need libshout.  We can't really help you much
further unless you tell us the error message you're getting.

Geoff.

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Tue Apr 16 05:22:39 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:22:39 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Wade Carroll wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>
> All is going well EXCEPT for replacing my Shoutcast server.
> 
> I'm able to compile icecast but am unable to compile ices due to some
> missing libraries?
> 
>

Try this: depending on what icecast reports as a missing library, search
it in the mandrake's cd (1, 2, 3,...) and install the rpm. If you don't
have the cd's you can search the libraries (rpms) in http://rpmfind.net.
Install the devel libraries (development) too, because they are needed
to compile Icecast.

You can use this "method" for others installations.

I hope it can help you.

 Thanks in advance for the assistance.
> 
> Wade

<p>Luis Gallardo.
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From gshang at uq.net.au  Tue Apr 16 13:02:45 2002
From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:02:45 +1000
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Hi:

OK, first, disclaimer. Iv'e never used or compiled ices 0.2.2.
Accordingly, any or all of what I'm about to say may be incorrect.
However, I'm sure I'll be corrected if any of it's wrong.

I looked at the output of ./configure and make.  Assuming there were no
actual errors in the make process (none were printed, but errors go to
stderr), I think your problem is that not all the build instructions are
being executed.  If you look at the make out put, you'll see make enter a
number of directories and do nothing.  The reason for this is probably to
be found near the top of ./configure:

checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing

aclocal and automake are part of the automake package, and autoconf and
autoheader are in the autoconf package.  I presume these are needed to
compile ices.  Even if they're not, many many programs need these 2
packages, so it's a good idea to install them.  I don't appear to have
makeinfo either, so I can't tell you what package that's in.

While looking over the ./configure output, I also noticed these:

checking for lame/lame.h... (cached) no
checking for lame.h... (cached) no
Could not find a valid LAME library, reencoding disabled
Vorbis is disabled because LAME is not enabled
checking for perl_construct... (cached) yes
checking for Python.h... (cached) no
Could not find the python library, python scripting disabled
checking for xml2-config... no
checking for xml-config... no
Compiling without libxml support - no configfiles

this would indicate that even if you could get ices to build, it would be
very limited in some of its functionality.  You will want LAME installed if
you want to re-encode to other bitrates.  You will also want LAME
installed, along withe the ogg and Vorbis libraries, if you want to be able
to use Ogg Vorbis files to source your stream.  The XML lib is presumably
used for parsing XML configuration files.  The python library is only an
issue if you wish to script in python.

Note that if you wish to use RPM's of these packages that ices is looking
for, you will need the devel packages installed.

One more thing.  After you sort all this out and are ready to compile, I
highly recommend doing the following from the ices directory:

make clean
rm config.cache

Then go on to do ./configure as before.  This will ensure that bits of your
previous compiles aren't lying around.

Hope this helps.

Geoff.

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From brendan at icecast.org  Tue Apr 16 15:37:05 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:37:05 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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On Tuesday, 16 April 2002 at 06:50, Wade Carroll wrote:
> thanks Geoff.  I was going to spare everyone the details and continue my
> search but I sincerely appreciate the help.
> 
> Here's the output from 'configure', 'make', and 'make install', as best I
> could capture it.
> 
> I'm not editing any of the make files or using any flags.

It's hard to tell what went wrong from the make output (many lines seem
to be missing), but my guess is you don't have the perl dev files
installed. If you don't need perl scripting, configure --without-perl.
Otherwise, you'll have to pick up the perl dev package.

-b

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From gtgbr at gmx.net  Tue Apr 16 16:22:46 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:22:46 +0200
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Wade Carroll wrote:
> Here's the output from 'configure', 'make', and 'make install', as best I
> could capture it.

What errors do you get? To redirect make's stderr output into a file, do
something like
gmake 2> mkerr.out

Doing this without the '2' redirects only stdout, which is not where
error messages go.

<p>Moritz

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Wed Apr 17 01:58:38 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:58:38 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Thanks...this seems to have gotten me over the compiling "hump".

I get this when I run the ices binary:

./ices: error while loading shared libraries: libshout.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

Are there some path settings that I need ?

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<p>On Tuesday, 16 April 2002 at 06:50, Wade Carroll wrote:
> thanks Geoff.  I was going to spare everyone the details and continue my
> search but I sincerely appreciate the help.
>
> Here's the output from 'configure', 'make', and 'make install', as best I
> could capture it.
>
> I'm not editing any of the make files or using any flags.

It's hard to tell what went wrong from the make output (many lines seem
to be missing), but my guess is you don't have the perl dev files
installed. If you don't need perl scripting, configure --without-perl.
Otherwise, you'll have to pick up the perl dev package.

-b

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From brendan at icecast.org  Wed Apr 17 02:22:58 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:22:58 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
In-Reply-To: <LCEPICPGGJPDFBFLGLGOGEDGCEAA.wcarroll@carolina.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20020417022258.GB1592@xanadu.kublai.com>



On Tuesday, 16 April 2002 at 21:58, Wade Carroll wrote:
> Thanks...this seems to have gotten me over the compiling "hump".
> 
> I get this when I run the ices binary:
> 
> ./ices: error while loading shared libraries: libshout.so.1: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Are there some path settings that I need ?

You need to run ldconfig. Make sure /usr/local/lib is in the ld.so.conf
file first.

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From bikepunx at bellatlantic.net  Wed Apr 17 03:14:54 2002
From: bikepunx at bellatlantic.net (jim)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:14:54 -0400
Subject: [icecast] live encoding
Message-ID: <a05101500b8e2986bce88@[129.25.14.235]>



is there any advice anyone can give me in relation to running a 
icecast server thats encoding on the fly for a live radio feed?  its 
run off freeBSD 4.5 icecast 1.3.12 and darkice .8.  the machine is 
PII 400mhz with  448MB RAM and we are having major quality issues 
right now......

any help would be appreciated...

-jim
www.wkdu.org

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Wed Apr 17 07:30:42 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:30:42 +0200
Subject: [icecast] live encoding
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jim wrote:
> is there any advice anyone can give me in relation to running a icecast 
> server thats encoding on the fly for a live radio feed?  its run off 
> freeBSD 4.5 icecast 1.3.12 and darkice .8.  the machine is PII 400mhz 
> with  448MB RAM and we are having major quality issues right now......

What kind of quality issues do you have?

You might want to experiment with the CVS version of darkice, which 
includes quality setting capalibities.

<p>Akos

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Wed Apr 17 11:57:31 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:57:31 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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Thanks.  That's got it.

Now I'm getting "bad password" errors.  "hackme" is the default password in
icecast and i'm running ices with the -P hackme flag.

Sorry to be such a drain...

Wade

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<p>On Tuesday, 16 April 2002 at 21:58, Wade Carroll wrote:
> Thanks...this seems to have gotten me over the compiling "hump".
>
> I get this when I run the ices binary:
>
> ./ices: error while loading shared libraries: libshout.so.1: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Are there some path settings that I need ?

You need to run ldconfig. Make sure /usr/local/lib is in the ld.so.conf
file first.

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From clayno at mail.w4cl.net  Wed Apr 17 12:38:49 2002
From: clayno at mail.w4cl.net (Charles Layno)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:38:49 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Oddsock mulit stream
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Is there a way to run multiple streams off of one Oddsock DSP with a single 
input as you can with the Shoutcast DSP or do you have to relay and have 
multiple copies of WinAMP with the DSP running multiple times?

Charles Layno

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From alex at x3ja.co.uk  Wed Apr 17 17:12:56 2002
From: alex at x3ja.co.uk (Alex Walker)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:12:56 +0100
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:57:31AM -0400, Wade Carroll wrote:
> Now I'm getting "bad password" errors.  "hackme" is the default
> password in icecast and i'm running ices with the -P hackme flag.

I had issues with passwords and various things - it turned out that
crypt support was enabled, so it thought that "hackme" was the result of
encrypting some string.  So try doing "mkpasswd hackme" and putting that
in your icecast config (but keep it as hackme in your ices config).

I could be completely wrong... I usually am.

Alex.


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From gluis at alsuites.com  Wed Apr 17 22:10:37 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis Gallardo)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:10:37 -0400
Subject: [icecast] reconnecting liveice
Message-ID: <3CBDF2DD.E55FF757@alsuites.com>



Hi everybody. 

Is there a way to set up liveice so it reconnects to Icecast
automatically when the connection is lost?.

I tried to automate this process by using a crontab and a perl script,
but when liveice is run with the -@ 2 option It seams It doesn't realize
that the connection has been broken and continues "running". If I do ps
ax, I can see liveice is "running", but I know It's not, because Icecast
reports that there aren't connected sources.

I hope you can help me.

Thanks.

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Wed Apr 17 23:14:07 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis Gallardo)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:14:07 -0400
Subject: [icecast] reconnecting liveice
In-Reply-To: <3CBDF2DD.E55FF757@alsuites.com>
Message-ID: <3CBE01BF.1DA8B045@alsuites.com>



I just fix it.  I realized when there is a connection to the Icecast
sever the output of ps ax | grep liveice is :

20566 ?        S      0:05 /home/lgallard/liveice/liveice -@ 2 -F
/home/lgallard
20568 ?        S      0:00 /home/lgallard/liveice/liveice -@ 2 -F
/home/lgallard
20569 ?        S      4:22 notlame -m j -s 44.100000 -b 32 -r -x
.liveice_temp_f
20676 pts/19   S      0:00 grep live

And when there isn't a connection to the server:

20566 ?        S      0:06 /home/lgallard/liveice/liveice -@ 2 -F
/home/lgallard
20569 ?        S      4:41 notlame -m j -s 44.100000 -b 32 -r -x
.liveice_temp_f
20731 pts/19   S      0:00 grep live

So, I did a script that counts the number of lines and reconnects
liveice to Icecast if it is needed.

Here you  the perl script:

###################################

#!/usr/bin/perl

$_= `ps ax | grep live | wc -l  `;

print $_;

if(m/5/){
        print `echo "LiveIce is already running"`;
        `echo "It's up" > radio.status`;
}
else{

        $_= `ps axr`;

        #print $_;

        if(!m/live/){

                print `echo "Starting LiveIce"`;

                `echo "It was NOT running" > radio.status`;
                `/usr/bin/killall liveice`;
                `/home/user/liveice/liveice -@ 2 -F /home/user/liveice/liveice.cfg`;

                print `echo "[OK]\n"`;
        }
} 

# End of the script
####################################

<p>Don't ask me why 5 instead of 4, because I don't know either.

<p>Luis Gallardo wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody.
> 
> Is there a way to set up liveice so it reconnects to Icecast
> automatically when the connection is lost?.
> 
> I tried to automate this process by using a crontab and a perl script,
> but when liveice is run with the -@ 2 option It seams It doesn't realize
> that the connection has been broken and continues "running". If I do ps
> ax, I can see liveice is "running", but I know It's not, because Icecast
> reports that there aren't connected sources.
> 
> I hope you can help me.
> 
> Thanks.
> 


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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Thu Apr 18 11:08:45 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:08:45 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - unable to compile
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That wasn't it but I've been able to make it work without any password so
I'm ok for now.

Thanks EVERYONE for their help.  I've been able to get basic streaming up
and running!

Wade

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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [icecast] ices - unable to compile

<p>On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:57:31AM -0400, Wade Carroll wrote:
> Now I'm getting "bad password" errors.  "hackme" is the default
> password in icecast and i'm running ices with the -P hackme flag.

I had issues with passwords and various things - it turned out that
crypt support was enabled, so it thought that "hackme" was the result of
encrypting some string.  So try doing "mkpasswd hackme" and putting that
in your icecast config (but keep it as hackme in your ices config).

I could be completely wrong... I usually am.

Alex.


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From dave at worklife.com  Thu Apr 18 14:15:35 2002
From: dave at worklife.com (Dave Snodgrass)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:15:35 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices - perl/python modules
In-Reply-To: <a05101500b8e2986bce88@[129.25.14.235]>
Message-ID: <000001c1e6e3$825ef370$0c54a7d1@elseif>



Hi there, im wondering if anyone has any guidelines on things such as
max execution times, etc on functions like ices_perl_get_next.

Obviously, you don't want ANY execution time really per se, but, as a
test I had ices go and do an sql call that took ~2 seconds before
returning a track file. Which resulted in a segfault. (output at bottom)

Also - as a side note, for anyone who doesn't realize - any modules you
write must return 1. Not just the functions, but for the module itself.

(example: ices.pm will not work as is. If you add a return 1; to the
bottom, it will return properly, and ices will start. (albeit broken -
you most likely don't have the default mp3 - but it will keep execing
next_track in a loop) If not, it complains about returning a null value
and wont start.)

<p>./dave

Segfault Output:

DEBUG: Done sending
DEBUG: Interpreting [ices_perl_get_next]
DEBUG: perl [ices_perl_get_next] returned 1 values, last
[/usr/local/mp3/Battle Axe Warriors - Swollen Members - Bad
Dreams/Swollen Members -16- Dark Riders (ft Buc Fifty).mp3]
DEBUG: Done interpreting [ices_perl_get_next]
DEBUG: Interpreting [ices_perl_get_current_lineno]
DEBUG: perl [ices_perl_get_current_lineno] returned 1 values, last [475]
DEBUG: Done interpreting [ices_perl_get_current_lineno]
DEBUG: ID3v1 song: Dark Riders (ft Buc Fifty)
DEBUG: ID3v1 artist: Swollen Members
DEBUG: ID3v2 tag size is 1908 bytes
DEBUG: Skipping to MP3 data
DEBUG: Layer: III               Version: MPEG-1 Frequency: 44100
DEBUG: Bitrate: 192 kbit/s      Padding: 1      Mode: j-stereo
DEBUG: Ext: 1   Mode_Ext: 2     Copyright: 0    Original: 1
DEBUG: Error Protection: 0      Emphasis: 0     Stereo: 2
Playing /usr/local/mp3/Battle Axe Warriors - Swollen Members - Bad
Dreams/Swollen Members -16- Dark Riders (ft Buc Fifty).mp3
DEBUG: Updated metadata on /stream1 to: Swollen Members - Dark Riders
(ft Buc Fifty)
Segmentation fault
[dave at linsux usr]#

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From djpandur at charthitzradio.de  Thu Apr 18 16:38:20 2002
From: djpandur at charthitzradio.de (DJ Pandur2000)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:38:20 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Source Reconnect Problem in
Message-ID: <AFEPIPGALECIFFBKDCKNOEFCCAAA.djpandur@charthitzradio.de>



Using Icecast 1.3.12

If the Source Strea gets disconnected from Internet (i.e. OS-Crash or
something)
the Server dows not kick the death source stream automaticly.
I have to do this via admin console then.
Whats the problem?

COnfig file

max_clients 30
max_clients_per_source 30
max_sources 1
max_admins 3
throttle 10.0

use_meta_data 0
streamurllock 0
streamtitletemplate %s
streamurl sth
nametemplate %s
desctemplate %s
mount_fallback 1
client_timeout 0

kick_clients 1

<p>Can u help me??

<p>Stefan Jacobi

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Thu Apr 18 18:06:31 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis Gallardo)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:06:31 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Source Reconnect Problem in
In-Reply-To: <AFEPIPGALECIFFBKDCKNOEFCCAAA.djpandur@charthitzradio.de>
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Check out the client_timeout value. If it's too big Icecast will take
awhile to disconnect the source.

DJ Pandur2000 wrote:
> 
> Using Icecast 1.3.12
> 
> If the Source Strea gets disconnected from Internet (i.e. OS-Crash or
> something)
> the Server dows not kick the death source stream automaticly.
> I have to do this via admin console then.
> Whats the problem?
> 
> COnfig file
> 
> max_clients 30
> max_clients_per_source 30
> max_sources 1
> max_admins 3
> throttle 10.0
> 
> use_meta_data 0
> streamurllock 0
> streamtitletemplate %s
> streamurl sth
> nametemplate %s
> desctemplate %s
> mount_fallback 1
> client_timeout 0
> 
> kick_clients 1
> 
> Can u help me??
> 
> Stefan Jacobi
> 
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From clayno at mail.w4cl.net  Thu Apr 18 23:43:24 2002
From: clayno at mail.w4cl.net (Charles Layno)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:43:24 -0400
Subject: [icecast] Oddsock oddity
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Message-ID: <200204182343.g3INhPS11998@wr4beg.w4cl.net>



I have Oddsock loaded and it will not complete the connecto to the server. I 
have been trying it in MP3 first before I move to Ogg to be sure I am 
understanding all I need to know. And it will connect and the eye candy will 
go let to right and the server will show that there is a connection, but the 
thing never sends data and a media player like WinAMP will will tell me that 
there is no ICY service available. I have loaded lame_enc.dll in the WinAMP 
plugin folder and the Oddsock DSP tells me 0 kbyes Total of 0 8 sent

What else have I missed?

Charles Layno

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From oddsock at oddsock.org  Fri Apr 19 01:50:03 2002
From: oddsock at oddsock.org (oddsock)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 20:50:03 -0500
Subject: [icecast] Oddsock oddity
In-Reply-To: <200204182343.g3INhPS11998@wr4beg.w4cl.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418204542.03a27258@oddsock.org>



At 07:43 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have Oddsock loaded and it will not complete the connecto to the server. I
>have been trying it in MP3 first before I move to Ogg to be sure I am
>understanding all I need to know. And it will connect and the eye candy will
>go let to right and the server will show that there is a connection, but the
>thing never sends data and a media player like WinAMP will will tell me that
>there is no ICY service available. I have loaded lame_enc.dll in the WinAMP
>plugin folder and the Oddsock DSP tells me 0 kbyes Total of 0 8 sent
>
>What else have I missed?
>
>Charles Layno
ummm....if you really want any help, you need to provide more information....

- what server are you using
- what are your configuration options
- what are you playing in winamp
- *are* you playing something in winamp

tuff like that...

oh, and for what it's worth, oddsock is a person, namely me....not a 
tool...although god knows sometimes I feel like a tool...

plus, this stuff is not really apropos to the listserv, so you might want 
to simply email me personally....

oddsock
oddsock at oddsock.org

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Fri Apr 19 16:17:11 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (Wade Carroll)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:17:11 -0400
Subject: [icecast] icecast permissions
Message-ID: <LCEPICPGGJPDFBFLGLGOOEEOCEAA.wcarroll@carolina.rr.com>



I'm told not to run Icecast as root but am unable to run as a normal user
because my log files are owned by root in /var/log/icecast.

even if I change their permissions to 777 it defaults back to 755 and i'm
out of luck.

Can someone tell me the best way to approach running icecast as a user?

Also, is there a way to automatically start icecast?  When I put it in my
startup (webmin-based) it just scrolls "you can run but you can't hide" over
and over and almost hangs my system.

Any help would be appreciated (thanks to all who have helped so far).

Thanks!
Wade

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From jack at xiph.org  Fri Apr 19 16:38:26 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:38:26 -0600
Subject: [icecast] icecast permissions
In-Reply-To: <LCEPICPGGJPDFBFLGLGOOEEOCEAA.wcarroll@carolina.rr.com>
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> I'm told not to run Icecast as root but am unable to run as a normal user
> because my log files are owned by root in /var/log/icecast.
>
> even if I change their permissions to 777 it defaults back to 755 and i'm
> out of luck.

It defaults back?  I don't quite understand that.  You can always put
your log files somewhere else.  chgrp them to the icecast user (or chown
even), etc.

jack.

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Fri Apr 19 17:48:06 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (wcarroll at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:48:06 GMT
Subject: [icecast] icecast permissions
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> It defaults back?  I don't quite understand that.  You 
can always put
> your log files somewhere else.  chgrp them to the icecast 
user (or chown
> even), etc.
> 

Yeah it's very strange.  I'm running latest release 
Mandrake.  Wonder if there's some security something going 
on (trust me...i'm no expert).

I'll see about changing permissions or doing that Safely 
Running Programs As Root idea...

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From wcarroll at carolina.rr.com  Fri Apr 19 18:01:36 2002
From: wcarroll at carolina.rr.com (wcarroll at carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:01:36 GMT
Subject: [icecast] more fun with LAME - error in bitstream?
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Hi folks!  Having trouble with re-encoding to 160Kbps.

I have:
Linux-Mandrake 8.2
Icecast 1.3.12
IceS 0.2.2 source
Lame 3.92
Hardware is: Celeron 533 w/256MB RAM, 40GB Disk

All seems to work at first but after a few songs it craps 
out and give me an ERROR WITH BITSTREAM (or something real 
close...sorry).

ALL of my MP3s are encoded using the --r3mix flag (VBR) 
with LAME 3.91 or 3.89.

All works great if I stream the VBR straight out (works 
days on end with NO problems...just a little bandwidth 
unfriendly).

Any possible causes here?  I'm pretty sure my MP3s are good 
if VBR is OK.

Should I back off to Lame 3.91?  
Could my LOG file permission errors be the root cause 
(different thread)?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Wade

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From rau at campoalto.edu.py  Fri Apr 19 18:29:48 2002
From: rau at campoalto.edu.py (Ra鷏 Guti閞rez Segal閟)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:29:48 -0400 (PYT)
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Hi,

I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..

Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.

Thanks!

Raul Gutierrez S.

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From shade at chemlab.org  Fri Apr 19 19:38:58 2002
From: shade at chemlab.org (steve j. kondik)
Date: 19 Apr 2002 15:38:58 -0400
Subject: [icecast] yp.icecast.org
Message-ID: <1019245138.25271.3.camel@crackrock>


hey can someone fix this so that the shoutcast clusters dont spam up the
listings? :>

-s


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From gluis at alsuites.com  Sat Apr 20 00:43:32 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:43:32 -0400
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Did you try liveice?

I'm using it without problems. I didn't try another one, but I can
suggest you liveice. In my case I'm taking the output from an radio set
which is connected to a sound card.

I hope It help you.

<p>Luis Gallardo
Caracas - Venezuela.

Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> 
> Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Raul Gutierrez S.

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Sat Apr 20 09:44:48 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Maroy Akos)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:44:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> 
> Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.

What were your problems with darkice?

<p>Akos

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From rau at campoalto.edu.py  Sat Apr 20 12:02:00 2002
From: rau at campoalto.edu.py (Ra鷏 Guti閞rez Segal閟)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:02:00 -0400 (PYT)
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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The same as wtih liveice, it stops while trying to open /dev/dsp according to strace.

<p><p>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Maroy Akos wrote:

> Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> >
> > Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.
>
> What were your problems with darkice?
>
>
> Akos
>
>
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From rau at campoalto.edu.py  Sat Apr 20 12:01:12 2002
From: rau at campoalto.edu.py (Ra鷏 Guti閞rez Segal閟)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 08:01:12 -0400 (PYT)
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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What is /dev/dsp ?s function in all of this?

<p><p>On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Luis M. Gallardo D. wrote:

> Did you try liveice?
>
> I'm using it without problems. I didn't try another one, but I can
> suggest you liveice. In my case I'm taking the output from an radio set
> which is connected to a sound card.
>
> I hope It help you.
>
>
> Luis Gallardo
> Caracas - Venezuela.
>
> Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> >
> > Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Raul Gutierrez S.
>
>
>
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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Sat Apr 20 12:13:34 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:13:34 +0200
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
 > The same as wtih liveice, it stops while trying to open /dev/dsp
 > according to strace.

Can you send me your config file?

<p>Akos

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From gluis at alsuites.com  Sat Apr 20 14:11:38 2002
From: gluis at alsuites.com (Luis M. Gallardo D.)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:11:38 -0400
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Check out if there is another application using /dev/dsp. Especially if
you have Mandrake and KDE, because Mandrake set up artd (a sound server
for KDE) by default.

You should also check out the permissions for /dev/dsp. The user who is
trying to run liveice (or whatever) must be allowed to open /dev/dsp.

I hope It Help you.

<p>
---
Luis Gallardo.
Caracas - Venezuela.

Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> 
> The same as wtih liveice, it stops while trying to open /dev/dsp according to strace.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Maroy Akos wrote:
> 
> > Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> > >
> > > Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.
> >
> > What were your problems with darkice?
> >
> >
> > Akos
> >

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From pozar at lns.com  Sat Apr 20 14:16:48 2002
From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 07:16:48 -0700
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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I have seen this behavour with my mixice streaming program too if
the channels are turned down or if the line input is not set for
"record".  Using "aumix" or "mixer" can find out how they are set
and can be used to adjust them.

Tim

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:02:00AM -0400, Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> The same as wtih liveice, it stops while trying to open /dev/dsp according to strace.
> 
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Maroy Akos wrote:
> 
> > Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to stream to an Icecast server (current version) that is up and running and I have tried plenty of streamers and no go..
> > >
> > > Any advices? I want to stream from linein (is that through /dev/dsp???) but had no luck with darkice, shout... no go.
> >
> > What were your problems with darkice?
> >
> >
> > Akos

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Sat Apr 20 14:48:44 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:48:44 +0200
Subject: [icecast] no luck with streamers
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Luis M. Gallardo D. wrote:
> Check out if there is another application using /dev/dsp. Especially if
> you have Mandrake and KDE, because Mandrake set up artd (a sound server
> for KDE) by default.
> 
> You should also check out the permissions for /dev/dsp. The user who is
> trying to run liveice (or whatever) must be allowed to open /dev/dsp.

Yes, you might want to try to record with sox, e.g.:

ox -t ossdsp -w -c 2 -r 44100 /dev/dsp /tmp/sample.wav

and see if this works, and if the recorded .wav file makes sense.

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From malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr  Sat Apr 20 21:43:31 2002
From: malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr (C閐ric Mallet)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:43:31 +0200
Subject: [icecast] MuSe problem
Message-ID: <02042023433100.09203@mallet.via.ecp.fr>



I cannot connect MuSe (using line in) to my icecast server.
I get thoses messages repeting :

Internal buffer inconsistency. flushbits <> ResvSizebit reservoir error: 
l3_side->main_data_begin: 1640 
Resvoir size:             1792 
resv drain (post)         5 
resv drain (pre)          0 
header and sideinfo:      120 
data bits:                679 
total bits:               804 (remainder: 4) 
bitsperframe:             864 

and Muse does not connect.

By the way, I would like to run Muse without its GUI. Is it possible ? Is 
there a conf file where I could set everything ?

Thanx

Ced

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From simensen at halogen.org  Sun Apr 21 00:00:02 2002
From: simensen at halogen.org (Beau D. Simensen)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:00:02 -0700
Subject: [icecast] admin 'rehash' broken in icecast 1.3.12?
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I tried admin rehash for the first time since upgrading to 1.3.12 today. The
rehash took at least 30 seconds [If not longer -- I didn't time it very
closely] and icecast slowly snuck up to 99% CPU usage. I tried issuing the
'alias' command just to try and get a response from the console and that
never responded. [I waited about two minutes]

I had the same experience both of my servers, one RedHat 7.2 and the other
FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. Restarting icecast seemed to fix the problem, but being
able to add aliases to the config and rehash was a really nice feature to
have. Did this break between 1.3.10 and 1.3.12? I had 1.3.11 somewhere in
there as well but I'm not sure I used rehash from the console while I was
running 1.3.11...

Thanks,

bds

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From jaromil at dyne.org  Sun Apr 21 13:18:17 2002
From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 14:18:17 +0100
Subject: [icecast] MuSe problem
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Message-ID: <20020421131817.GA17935@dyne.org>



please note MuSE bugreporting mailinglist is here muse at dyne.org

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 11:43:31PM +0200, C?dric Mallet wrote:
> I cannot connect MuSe (using line in) to my icecast server.
> I get thoses messages repeting :
> 
> Internal buffer inconsistency. flushbits <> ResvSizebit reservoir error: 
> l3_side->main_data_begin: 1640 
> Resvoir size:             1792 
> resv drain (post)         5 
> resv drain (pre)          0 
> header and sideinfo:      120 
> data bits:                679 
> total bits:               804 (remainder: 4) 
> bitsperframe:             864 
> 
> and Muse does not connect.

i see there is a problem in the way i'm handling lame
it does'nt happens very often but i reached to reproduce it once
i'm working on that

> By the way, I would like to run Muse without its GUI. Is it possible ?

yes

> Is there a conf file where I could set everything ?

./muse --help for commandline settings
or look for config files into ~/.muse (defaults created at first run)


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From rau at campoalto.edu.py  Mon Apr 22 12:04:59 2002
From: rau at campoalto.edu.py (Ra鷏 Guti閞rez Segal閟)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:04:59 -0400 (PYT)
Subject: [icecast] where does linein writes to
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I have tried broadcasting from both SuSE Linux and Slackware and with various programs being the last one Tim`s Mixice (which is a perl script that works along with a program called catdsp). Looking at the source I saw that this programs, both of them, try to open /dev/dsp.

Now, my question is if /dev/dsp is the standard device for the line-in of the audio card?

I have tried, as suggested in previous mails, raising the sound level of line in and mic with amixer, alsamixer, aumix, kmix, gmix, etc.

I still can`t get to stream audio from line-in but I got to stream noise to my Icecast Server!

Any ideas??

Raul

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Mon Apr 22 12:25:37 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:25:37 +0200
Subject: [icecast] where does linein writes to
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Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
 > I have tried broadcasting from both SuSE Linux and Slackware and with
 > various programs being the last one Tim`s Mixice (which is a perl
 > script that works along with a program called catdsp). Looking at the
 > source I saw that this programs, both of them, try to open /dev/dsp.
 >
 > Now, my question is if /dev/dsp is the standard device for the
 > line-in of the audio card?
 >
 > I have tried, as suggested in previous mails, raising the sound level
 > of line in and mic with amixer, alsamixer, aumix, kmix, gmix, etc.
 >
 > I still can`t get to stream audio from line-in but I got to stream
 > noise to my Icecast Server!
 >
 > Any ideas??

you also have to set line-in es your recording device.

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From rau at campoalto.edu.py  Mon Apr 22 14:28:13 2002
From: rau at campoalto.edu.py (Ra鷏 Guti閞rez Segal閟)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:28:13 -0400 (PYT)
Subject: [icecast] where does linein writes to
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Akos Maroy wrote:

> Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
>  > I have tried broadcasting from both SuSE Linux and Slackware and with
>  > various programs being the last one Tim`s Mixice (which is a perl
>  > script that works along with a program called catdsp). Looking at the
>  > source I saw that this programs, both of them, try to open /dev/dsp.
>  >
>  > Now, my question is if /dev/dsp is the standard device for the
>  > line-in of the audio card?
>  >
>  > I have tried, as suggested in previous mails, raising the sound level
>  > of line in and mic with amixer, alsamixer, aumix, kmix, gmix, etc.
>  >
>  > I still can`t get to stream audio from line-in but I got to stream
>  > noise to my Icecast Server!
>  >
>  > Any ideas??
>
> you also have to set line-in es your recording device.

With a mixer??? (aumix, alsamixer, kmix, etc.)

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Mon Apr 22 14:57:53 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:57:53 +0200
Subject: [icecast] where does linein writes to
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Ra?l Guti?rrez Segal?s wrote:
> With a mixer??? (aumix, alsamixer, kmix, etc.)

yes. The sound card can record from various inputs, including 
microphone, line-in, CD, etc. This actually depends on the sound card. 
You have to select which input you recrod from with a mixer.

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From dave at jetcafe.org  Mon Apr 22 17:25:43 2002
From: dave at jetcafe.org (Dave Hayes)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:25:43 -0700
Subject: [icecast] admin 'rehash' broken in icecast 1.3.12?
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] admin 'rehash' broken in icecast 1.3.12?>
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Beau D Simensen <simensen at halogen.org> writes:
> I tried admin rehash for the first time since upgrading to 1.3.12 today. The
> rehash took at least 30 seconds [If not longer -- I didn't time it very
> closely] and icecast slowly snuck up to 99% CPU usage. I tried issuing the
> 'alias' command just to try and get a response from the console and that
> never responded. [I waited about two minutes]

I don't know if this will help, but you can try it. It certainly won't
hurt. =)

*** avl_functions.c     2002/04/11 06:22:04     1.1
--- avl_functions.c     2002/04/11 06:23:35
***************
*** 307,313 ****
        }
  
        snprintf(s1, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d", dir1->host, dir1->port);
!       snprintf(s2, "%s:%d", dir2->host, dir2->port);
  
        return compare_strings (s1, s2, param);
  }
--- 307,313 ----
        }
  
        snprintf(s1, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d", dir1->host, dir1->port);
!       snprintf(s2, BUFSIZE, "%s:%d", dir2->host, dir2->port);
  
        return compare_strings (s1, s2, param);

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From rsteding at tecwise.com  Wed Apr 24 07:42:36 2002
From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:42:36 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Auto Archiving function for Icecast.
Message-ID: <3CC661EC.6B88B90B@tecwise.com>



Hello:

Does anyone know how to set up auto-archiving with icecast. I have an
encoder coming in with a radio station. I want to create hourly mp3
archives of their streams that are coming to my icecast server. Got any
ideas?

Raymond

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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Wed Apr 24 08:03:08 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:03:08 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Auto Archiving function for Icecast.
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Raymond,

> Does anyone know how to set up auto-archiving with icecast. I have an
> encoder coming in with a radio station. I want to create hourly mp3
> archives of their streams that are coming to my icecast server. Got any
> ideas?

I have a set of scripts that do this for me. The idea basically is:

- encode in 4 hour sessions, that is 6 sessions per day (use 4 hour-long 
darkice recording sessions, and cron to start the new recording every 4 
hours)

<p>- use the remote dump feature of icecast to dump the streams in the
server, each session under a different name. The result is something like:

/path/to/mp3/dump/session1.mp3
/path/to/mp3/dump/session2.mp3
...
/path/to/mp3/dump/session6.mp3

<p>- have a script, that at a given time cuts out the last half hour of the 
current stream dump, and call this script from cron every half hour.

Here the idea is, that from the time point, you can calculate:

- what is the current dump file called
- what is the last half hour (e.g. at 10:32 it is 10:00 - 10:30)
- where is this last half hour in the current dump (e.g. 10:00 - 10:30 
am is in the 3rd session, at offset 2:00 - 2:30, since session 3 is from 
8:00 - 12:00)

As you know the bitrate of the stream, you can calculate the byte offset 
and amount of bytes to cut from the dump file (e.g. 128 kb/s stream is 
((128 / 8) * 60) kB/minute, a half hour section is ((128 / 8) * 60 * 
1000 * 30) bytes)

- use dd to cut the desired mp3 data from the current dump, e.g.:

dd if=session3.mp3 of=1000.mp3 bs=BYTES_PER_HALF_HOUR skip=4 count=1

where skip=4 tells dd to skip the first 4 half-hour segments

You can cut with dd if you take care to cut by the mp3 frame boundaries. 
Of course, this only works with fixed bitrate encoding. Also, some mp3 
experts would argue that there will be some mess at the boundries of the 
cut, as mp3 can spread information across several frames.

Nevertheless, I didn't find a convenient command line mp3 cutting tool 
(didn't look much either, after found this solution with dd)

Of course, you can simply adjust this pattern to your needs (hour-long 
cuts, different number of recording sessions, etc.)

<p>Akos

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From bikepunx at bellatlantic.net  Tue Apr 23 05:16:34 2002
From: bikepunx at bellatlantic.net (jim)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 01:16:34 -0400
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
Message-ID: <a05111700b8ea9da2c7eb@[129.25.14.235]>



here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our 
problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live 
card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we 
plug a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and 
when we plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the 
question i ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely 
boggled.  we are using the latest version of iceccast along with 
darkice.7.....if this wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that 
has made my head hurt on top of this......

thanx in advance for any help
-jim

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From rsteding at tecwise.com  Wed Apr 24 14:25:20 2002
From: rsteding at tecwise.com (Raymond)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:25:20 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Auto Archiving function for Icecast.
In-Reply-To: <3CC666BC.8080908@tyrell.hu>
Message-ID: <3CC6C050.378177B1@tecwise.com>



A remote dump feature of icecast.

Ok I'll see if I can find any info on the dump feature.

Very clear description. Thanks.

Raymond

Akos Maroy wrote:

> Raymond,
>
> > Does anyone know how to set up auto-archiving with icecast. I have an
> > encoder coming in with a radio station. I want to create hourly mp3
> > archives of their streams that are coming to my icecast server. Got any
> > ideas?
>
> I have a set of scripts that do this for me. The idea basically is:
>
> - encode in 4 hour sessions, that is 6 sessions per day (use 4 hour-long
> darkice recording sessions, and cron to start the new recording every 4
> hours)
>
> - use the remote dump feature of icecast to dump the streams in the
> server, each session under a different name. The result is something like:
>
> /path/to/mp3/dump/session1.mp3
> /path/to/mp3/dump/session2.mp3
> ...
> /path/to/mp3/dump/session6.mp3
>
> - have a script, that at a given time cuts out the last half hour of the
> current stream dump, and call this script from cron every half hour.
>
> Here the idea is, that from the time point, you can calculate:
>
> - what is the current dump file called
> - what is the last half hour (e.g. at 10:32 it is 10:00 - 10:30)
> - where is this last half hour in the current dump (e.g. 10:00 - 10:30
> am is in the 3rd session, at offset 2:00 - 2:30, since session 3 is from
> 8:00 - 12:00)
>
> As you know the bitrate of the stream, you can calculate the byte offset
> and amount of bytes to cut from the dump file (e.g. 128 kb/s stream is
> ((128 / 8) * 60) kB/minute, a half hour section is ((128 / 8) * 60 *
> 1000 * 30) bytes)
>
> - use dd to cut the desired mp3 data from the current dump, e.g.:
>
> dd if=session3.mp3 of=1000.mp3 bs=BYTES_PER_HALF_HOUR skip=4 count=1
>
> where skip=4 tells dd to skip the first 4 half-hour segments
>
> You can cut with dd if you take care to cut by the mp3 frame boundaries.
> Of course, this only works with fixed bitrate encoding. Also, some mp3
> experts would argue that there will be some mess at the boundries of the
> cut, as mp3 can spread information across several frames.
>
> Nevertheless, I didn't find a convenient command line mp3 cutting tool
> (didn't look much either, after found this solution with dd)
>
> Of course, you can simply adjust this pattern to your needs (hour-long
> cuts, different number of recording sessions, etc.)
>
> Akos
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From darkeye at tyrell.hu  Wed Apr 24 15:44:06 2002
From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Akos Maroy)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:44:06 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Auto Archiving function for Icecast.
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Raymond wrote:
> A remote dump feature of icecast.
> 
> Ok I'll see if I can find any info on the dump feature.

You can configure this with your streaming tool. You have options for 
this in both liveice and darkice.

> Very clear description. Thanks.

Hope it helps.

<p>Akos

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From alex at x3ja.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 17:14:27 2002
From: alex at x3ja.co.uk (Alex Walker)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:14:27 +0100
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
In-Reply-To: <a05111700b8ea9da2c7eb@[129.25.14.235]>
Message-ID: <20020424181427.L23497@x3ja.co.uk>



On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
> here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
> problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
> card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
> a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
> plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
> ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
> using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
> wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
> on top of this......

Are you using ALSA?  I had a weird problem with ALSA and hum on my SB
Live.  I finally figured out I had to unmute the last emu10k1 channel in
alsamixer.  Try muting/unmuting some of them if you are indeed using
ALSA.

HTH

Alex.


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From hathaway at munkynet.org  Wed Apr 24 19:09:54 2002
From: hathaway at munkynet.org (Samuel Hathaway)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:09:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Alex Walker wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
> > here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
> > problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
> > card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
> > a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
> > plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
> > ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
> > using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
> > wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
> > on top of this......

Hmm, since no other audio sources produce a hum, I'd suspect the line from
your board or something, not a computer problem. We at WRUR (wrur.org)
have a really long run from the front of the studio to the room with the
servers, and there's a hum.
-samuel

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From hathaway at munkynet.org  Wed Apr 24 19:16:09 2002
From: hathaway at munkynet.org (Samuel Hathaway)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:16:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Samuel Hathaway wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Alex Walker wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
> > > here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
> > > problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
> > > card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
> > > a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
> > > plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
> > > ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
> > > using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
> > > wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
> > > on top of this......
>
> Hmm, since no other audio sources produce a hum, I'd suspect the line from
> your board or something, not a computer problem. We at WRUR (wrur.org)
> have a really long run from the front of the studio to the room with the
> servers, and there's a hum.
> -samuel

Hmm, I may have read your post wrong. Are you saying that when you plug
the line from the studio into another amp (or something) you don't get the
hum? If so, it might be a grounding issue in the sound card. If you have a
mixer lying around, plug the line from the studio into it and then run the
output from the mixer to the sound card.
-samuel

by the way, my friend dennis's friend kelly is a dj there i think. heh.

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From John.Benninghoff at Rbcdain.com  Wed Apr 24 19:27:50 2002
From: John.Benninghoff at Rbcdain.com (Benninghoff, John)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:27:50 -0500
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
In-Reply-To: <[icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason>
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This does sound like a grounding problem. My (limited) understanding is that when you have 2 audio components plugged in to different outlets, there can be a voltage differential between the ground on the 2 devices, which will create an electrical flow between the 2 components, which is the source of the hum. I have had this problem before and solved with a ground loop isolator, (from Radio Shack) which somehow blocks the flow, and is cheaper than a mixer. I would guess that a mixer has something like this built in.

There are other possible causes for this, but I would also suspect that it is not a computer problem, but a physical problem.

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From: Samuel Hathaway [mailto:hathaway at munkynet.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:16 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason

<p>On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Samuel Hathaway wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Alex Walker wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
> > > here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
> > > problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
> > > card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
> > > a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
> > > plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
> > > ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
> > > using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
> > > wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
> > > on top of this......
>
> Hmm, since no other audio sources produce a hum, I'd suspect the line from
> your board or something, not a computer problem. We at WRUR (wrur.org)
> have a really long run from the front of the studio to the room with the
> servers, and there's a hum.
> -samuel

Hmm, I may have read your post wrong. Are you saying that when you plug
the line from the studio into another amp (or something) you don't get the
hum? If so, it might be a grounding issue in the sound card. If you have a
mixer lying around, plug the line from the studio into it and then run the
output from the mixer to the sound card.
-samuel

by the way, my friend dennis's friend kelly is a dj there i think. heh.

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From John.Benninghoff at Rbcdain.com  Wed Apr 24 19:29:19 2002
From: John.Benninghoff at Rbcdain.com (Benninghoff, John)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:29:19 -0500
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
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Sorry, here is a link to more information.

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/index.html

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To: 'icecast at xiph.org'
Subject: RE: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason

<p>This does sound like a grounding problem. My (limited) understanding is that when you have 2 audio components plugged in to different outlets, there can be a voltage differential between the ground on the 2 devices, which will create an electrical flow between the 2 components, which is the source of the hum. I have had this problem before and solved with a ground loop isolator, (from Radio Shack) which somehow blocks the flow, and is cheaper than a mixer. I would guess that a mixer has something like this built in.

There are other possible causes for this, but I would also suspect that it is not a computer problem, but a physical problem.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:16 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason

<p>On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Samuel Hathaway wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Alex Walker wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
> > > here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
> > > problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
> > > card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
> > > a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
> > > plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
> > > ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
> > > using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
> > > wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
> > > on top of this......
>
> Hmm, since no other audio sources produce a hum, I'd suspect the line from
> your board or something, not a computer problem. We at WRUR (wrur.org)
> have a really long run from the front of the studio to the room with the
> servers, and there's a hum.
> -samuel

Hmm, I may have read your post wrong. Are you saying that when you plug
the line from the studio into another amp (or something) you don't get the
hum? If so, it might be a grounding issue in the sound card. If you have a
mixer lying around, plug the line from the studio into it and then run the
output from the mixer to the sound card.
-samuel

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From bikepunx at bellatlantic.net  Wed Apr 24 18:50:03 2002
From: bikepunx at bellatlantic.net (jim)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:50:03 -0400
Subject: [icecast] stream sounds like poo for no apparent reason
In-Reply-To: <20020424181427.L23497@x3ja.co.uk>
Message-ID: <a05111700b8ecaebfaea2@[192.168.1.101]>



nope no ALSA drivers, everything is supported in the freeBSD kernel..........

<p><p>>On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:16:34AM -0400, jim wrote:
>>  here at wkdu.org our minds are blown trying to figure out what our
>>  problem is, we are using a dell optiplex gx1 with a soundblaster live
>>  card. we are getting a nasty hum on the line in.  the thing is we plug
>>  a cd player directly into the soundcard the hum goes away and when we
>>  plug the line in into anything else there is no hum, so the question i
>>  ask where is the hum coming from?  we are completely boggled.  we are
>>  using the latest version of iceccast along with darkice.7.....if this
>>  wasnt enough i have a a lit paper due tomm that has made my head hurt
>>  on top of this......
>
>Are you using ALSA?  I had a weird problem with ALSA and hum on my SB
>Live.  I finally figured out I had to unmute the last emu10k1 channel in
>alsamixer.  Try muting/unmuting some of them if you are indeed using
>ALSA.
>
>HTH
>
>Alex.
>
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From simensen at halogen.org  Wed Apr 24 20:17:29 2002
From: simensen at halogen.org (Beau D. Simensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:17:29 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Another 1.3.12 &quot;bug&quot;...
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This might have been something else that changed since I've upgraded. Or
maybe I simply never noticed before.

If one of my sources die, the clients will eventually get bumped over to
another source that hasn't died yet. I'm not sure what functionality this is
called or how [or if] this can be disabled. I turned off mountpoint
fallback, which I would have thought would have taken care of this problem.

I'd rather this not happen as listeners might be confused if they get
switche dover toa  different stream and don't notice. They might decide they
don't like the stream anymore and go away when they were infact listening to
a completely seperate station.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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From webmaster at chat-radio.de  Wed Apr 24 20:33:32 2002
From: webmaster at chat-radio.de (webmaster at chat-radio.de)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:33:32 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Another 1.3.12 &quot;bug&quot;...
In-Reply-To: <02e901c1ebcd$12326480$c904a8c0@vaiolaptop>
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If my source dies
the server dows not kick listeners / death stream...

<p>Pandur

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<p>This might have been something else that changed since I've upgraded. Or
maybe I simply never noticed before.

If one of my sources die, the clients will eventually get bumped over to
another source that hasn't died yet. I'm not sure what functionality this is
called or how [or if] this can be disabled. I turned off mountpoint
fallback, which I would have thought would have taken care of this problem.

I'd rather this not happen as listeners might be confused if they get
switche dover toa  different stream and don't notice. They might decide they
don't like the stream anymore and go away when they were infact listening to
a completely seperate station.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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From mmrmedia at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 24 21:56:59 2002
From: mmrmedia at yahoo.com (maart b)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [icecast] warnings compiling icecast-1.3.12
Message-ID: <20020424215659.62398.qmail@web14909.mail.yahoo.com>



Hi

I have some warnings compiling icecast and i would
like to know if they are serious problems
it seem to work fine i think
i am not a programmer so the warnings say nothing to
me

ystem slackware 8 i386
these are the warnings

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT  -g -O2
-Wall -c main.c
main.c: In function `clean_shutdown':
main.c:547: warning: type defaults to `int'
declaration of `main_shutting_down'

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT  -g -O2
-Wall -c client.c
client.c:93: warning: `client_send_fake_file' declared
`static' but never defined

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT  -g -O2
-Wall -c avl_functions.c
avl_functions.c: In function `compare_directories':
avl_functions.c:310: warning: passing arg 2 of
`snprintf' makes integer from pointer without a cast

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT  -g -O2
-Wall -c static.c
static.c: In function `send_file_to_socket':
static.c:237: warning: unused variable `suffix'
static.c:235: warning: unused variable `buf'

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT  -g -O2
-Wall -c ice_string.c
ice_string.c: In function `safe_strcat':
ice_string.c:337: warning: unused variable `size'

thanks in advance

Mario

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From gtgbr at gmx.net  Wed Apr 24 23:04:16 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 01:04:16 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD 3.1
Message-ID: <3CC739F0.D3BA476@gmx.net>



Hi,

<p>Finally, I succeeded in compiling Icecast2 under OpenBSD. It neither
worked for me on OBSD 3.0 nor my old 2.8, but the new 3.1 appears to
come with more icecast-friendly (p)threads.

OpenBSD 3.1 isn't officially released, yet, but installing a current
snapshot and getting the sources via CVS (module OPENBSD_3_1_BASE,
patient people also can already upgrade from scratch only with the
sources) worked for me.

Compiling libshout failed because src/mp3.c included <stdint.h> which
appears to be missing on OBSD3.1. Using a friend's stdint.h and seeing
it fail again showed that machine/types.h equals stdint.h here. `ln -s
/usr/include/machine/types.h /usr/include/stdint.h` fixed that. I have
no clue why stdint.h wasn't there in the first place - either this is a
bug in my snapshot or it's some competing GNU vs BSD philosophies or
something.

The final linking of icecast2 failed with "ld: -lpthread: no match".
Making it use -pthread instead fixed it. This problem could be avoided
by autogen.sh/configure checking this, just like it does for the
ogg/vorbis libraries. Happy Ogg streaming through OpenBSD servers! :)

Some comments about ices2:

It is currently impossible to compile it under *BSD, at least afaik.
src/im_sun.c includes stropts.h, which doesn't come with OpenBSD. After
feeding one .h file after another from a linux box, it finally wanted
gnu/stubs.h. There will never be GNU stuff in *BSD, so that must be
solved differently.

I found that it needs it at least in line 211 while doing `ioctl(s->fd,
I_FLUSH, FLUSHR);' which means that at least I_FLUSH and FLUSHR need to
be defined seperately (or maybe you know what the *BSD equivalent to
stropts.h is?). I didn't get any further information out of my
experiments, so there might be more problems waiting.

<p><p>Moritz

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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Thu Apr 25 01:37:23 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:37:23 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD 3.1
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>
>Some comments about ices2:
>
>It is currently impossible to compile it under *BSD, at least afaik.
>src/im_sun.c includes stropts.h, which doesn't come with OpenBSD. After
>feeding one .h file after another from a linux box, it finally wanted
>gnu/stubs.h. There will never be GNU stuff in *BSD, so that must be
>solved differently.

Why on earth are you trying to compile im_sun.c on a non-solaris machine?
That file is Sun audio device support. Is the autoconf/automake magic
magically screwed there? Anyway, just don't compile that file at all -
it's used only on machines with sun audio devices (which as far as I know
means solaris only). im_oss.c serves the same purpose for OSS audio, which
is probably what openbsd uses (this is needed if you want to do live
audio encoding/streaming, from line-in or something like that)

Michael

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From jack at xiph.org  Thu Apr 25 01:48:53 2002
From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:48:53 -0600
Subject: [icecast] Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD 3.1
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> Finally, I succeeded in compiling Icecast2 under OpenBSD. It neither
> worked for me on OBSD 3.0 nor my old 2.8, but the new 3.1 appears to
> come with more icecast-friendly (p)threads.

Good to know :)

> Compiling libshout failed because src/mp3.c included <stdint.h> which
> appears to be missing on OBSD3.1. Using a friend's stdint.h and seeing
> it fail again showed that machine/types.h equals stdint.h here. `ln -s
> /usr/include/machine/types.h /usr/include/stdint.h` fixed that. I have
> no clue why stdint.h wasn't there in the first place - either this is a
> bug in my snapshot or it's some competing GNU vs BSD philosophies or
> something.

tdint.h is C99.  It's not a question of bsd vs. gnu.

> The final linking of icecast2 failed with "ld: -lpthread: no match".
> Making it use -pthread instead fixed it. This problem could be avoided
> by autogen.sh/configure checking this, just like it does for the
> ogg/vorbis libraries. Happy Ogg streaming through OpenBSD servers! :)

This will get fixed before the first release.

jack.

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From roy at lamrim.com  Thu Apr 25 06:29:59 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:29:59 -0700
Subject: [icecast] ices compile problems (again...)
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020424232236.032b61d8@mail.lamrim.com>



Okay, I did this right months ago, but somehow lost the recipe.  I have 
libxml and libxml2 installed:

[root at atisha ices-0.2.2]# ls /usr/local/lib
libshout.a         libxml2.a         libxml.a          pkgconfig
libshout.la        libxml2.la        libxml.la         xml2Conf.sh
libshout.so        libxml2.so        libxml.so         xmlConf.sh
libshout.so.1      libxml2.so.2      libxml.so.1
libshout.so.1.0.0  libxml2.so.2.4.2  libxml.so.1.8.14

<p>I must be doing the configure wrong?!

./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so

.
.
.
Features:
   libshout: system
   LAME    : no
   Vorbis  : no
   Perl    : yes
   Python  : no
   XML     : yes
Configuration complete. Now run 'gmake'.

Making all in playlist
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2/src/playlist'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2/src/playlist'
gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2/src'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DICES_ETCDIR=\"/usr/local/icecast/etc\" 
-DICES_MODULEDIR=\"/usr/local/icecast/etc/modules\"   -I../resolver 
-I../thread   -fno-strict-aliasing 
-I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux/CORE    -g -O2 
-Wall -c ices_config.c
ices_config.c:24:20: parser.h: No such file or directory
ices_config.c:25:23: xmlmemory.h: No such file or directory
gmake[3]: *** [ices_config.o] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2/src'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2/src'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/icecast/ices-0.2.2'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

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From gtgbr at gmx.net  Thu Apr 25 10:30:04 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:30:04 +0200
Subject: [icecast] Compiling ices2 under OBSD3.1 (was: Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD  3.1)
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020425113723.41961690@mail.labyrinth.net.au>
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Michael Smith wrote:
> >It is currently impossible to compile it under *BSD, at least afaik.
> >src/im_sun.c includes stropts.h, which doesn't come with OpenBSD. After
> >feeding one .h file after another from a linux box, it finally wanted
> >gnu/stubs.h. There will never be GNU stuff in *BSD, so that must be
> >solved differently.
> Why on earth are you trying to compile im_sun.c on a non-solaris machine?

The only reason why I was doing so is because autogen.sh/configure
decided to do so. ;P I also read in im_sun.c what this file was all
about and couldn't see why I need it, but apparently I always compiled
it so far during my experiments under Linux, too...? It *SHOULD* compile
on every GNU/Linux system, no matter whether Solaris or not. I'm still
learning *BSD, so I might get a lot of stuff wrong here either.

But I *do* have /dev/audio as the default
throw-stuff-at-me-and-i'll-play-it-device, and it might be that OBSD
uses a modified SUN driver on all platforms...? So, compiling the
solaris thingie might make sense after all ...

> magically screwed there? Anyway, just don't compile that file at all -

What's the elegant method to do this? So far, when I poked at code that
didn't work, I screwed around in the Makefiles manually until it
eventually works (or doesn't). That's more like random guessing .. ;)

> means solaris only). im_oss.c serves the same purpose for OSS audio, which
> is probably what openbsd uses (this is needed if you want to do live

I haven't seen OSS on any OpenBSD so far, I have the choice between
aRts, ESD or the Sun Audio driver. Those are for the outputs at least, I
don't know about the other way, since I never tried that yet. I have no
/dev/dsp, which means that there really is no OSS, I suppose.

Oh ... I just noticed even more weirdnesses. I now can offer your two
coredumps in ogg123. Unfortunately, I don't have the time at the moment
to dig any deeper, but I will hand in anything you and others might need
later, either on IRC or via mail.

<p><p>Moritz

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From msmith at labyrinth.net.au  Thu Apr 25 13:53:28 2002
From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:53:28 +1000
Subject: [icecast] Compiling ices2 under OBSD3.1 (was: Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD  3.1)
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At 12:30 PM 4/25/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Michael Smith wrote:
>> >It is currently impossible to compile it under *BSD, at least afaik.
>> >src/im_sun.c includes stropts.h, which doesn't come with OpenBSD. After
>> >feeding one .h file after another from a linux box, it finally wanted
>> >gnu/stubs.h. There will never be GNU stuff in *BSD, so that must be
>> >solved differently.
>> Why on earth are you trying to compile im_sun.c on a non-solaris machine?
>
>The only reason why I was doing so is because autogen.sh/configure
>decided to do so. ;P I also read in im_sun.c what this file was all
>about and couldn't see why I need it, but apparently I always compiled
>it so far during my experiments under Linux, too...? It *SHOULD* compile
>on every GNU/Linux system, no matter whether Solaris or not. I'm still
>learning *BSD, so I might get a lot of stuff wrong here either.

im_sun definately doesn't get compiled on linux. If I tried to compile it,
I'd be _really_ surprised if it succeeded :-)

<p>>
>But I *do* have /dev/audio as the default
>throw-stuff-at-me-and-i'll-play-it-device, and it might be that OBSD
>uses a modified SUN driver on all platforms...? So, compiling the
>solaris thingie might make sense after all ...

Hmm... ok - well, if that device is actuall sun-audio-device compatible,
I guess that's the way to go (if you want live input, that is. If not,
then you can just get rid of it entirely using autoconf/automake, I
think).

I don't have any systems with sun audio support (I didn't write im_sun.c),
so I can't do much with it - but if you can supply a patch to make it
work better at some point, it'd be gladly received.

>
>> magically screwed there? Anyway, just don't compile that file at all -
>
>What's the elegant method to do this? So far, when I poked at code that
>didn't work, I screwed around in the Makefiles manually until it
>eventually works (or doesn't). That's more like random guessing .. ;)

autoconf/automake are _all about_ random guessing. I've never found a
better reliable way, anyway.

<p>>Oh ... I just noticed even more weirdnesses. I now can offer your two
>coredumps in ogg123. Unfortunately, I don't have the time at the moment
>to dig any deeper, but I will hand in anything you and others might need
>later, either on IRC or via mail.

Can you report this on on bugs.xiph.org (with a stacktrace, if possible)?
I don't know ogg123 very well, but others will look at ogg123 bugs.

Michael

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From nick at ivision.co.uk  Thu Apr 25 17:13:34 2002
From: nick at ivision.co.uk (Nick Ludlam)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:13:34 +0100
Subject: [icecast] Compiling icecast2 under OpenBSD 3.1
In-Reply-To: <20020425014853.GB1103@babyjesus.cantcode.com>
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On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 02:48  am, Jack Moffitt wrote:

>> Compiling libshout failed because src/mp3.c included <stdint.h> which
>> appears to be missing on OBSD3.1. Using a friend's stdint.h and seeing
>> it fail again showed that machine/types.h equals stdint.h here. `ln -s
>> /usr/include/machine/types.h /usr/include/stdint.h` fixed that. I have
>> no clue why stdint.h wasn't there in the first place - either this is a
>> bug in my snapshot or it's some competing GNU vs BSD philosophies or
>> something.
>
> stdint.h is C99.  It's not a question of bsd vs. gnu.

autoconf seems to cope wih this by the following test during 
./configure :

#include <sys/types.h>
#ifdef HAVE_STDINT_H
#  include <stdint.h>
#elif defined (HAVE_INTTYPES_H)
#  include <inttypes.h>
#endif

I originally thought stdint.h was a linux/gnu ism, and added it to the 
bug list.
http://bugs.xiph.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185

Nick

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From brendan at icecast.org  Thu Apr 25 17:47:37 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:47:37 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices compile problems (again...)
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020424232236.032b61d8@mail.lamrim.com>
Message-ID: <20020425174737.GC657@xanadu.kublai.com>



On Wednesday, 24 April 2002 at 23:29, Roy Harvey wrote:
> Okay, I did this right months ago, but somehow lost the recipe.  I have 
> libxml and libxml2 installed:
> 
> [root at atisha ices-0.2.2]# ls /usr/local/lib
> libshout.a         libxml2.a         libxml.a          pkgconfig
> libshout.la        libxml2.la        libxml.la         xml2Conf.sh
> libshout.so        libxml2.so        libxml.so         xmlConf.sh
> libshout.so.1      libxml2.so.2      libxml.so.1
> libshout.so.1.0.0  libxml2.so.2.4.2  libxml.so.1.8.14
> 
> 
> I must be doing the configure wrong?!
> 
> ./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so

this is wrong. This option specifies a path to the program xml2-config
(or xml-config), which is run to produce the C and ld flags needed to
link libxml2. Since you have the library installed in /usr/local you
shouldn't need the argument at all, but if you use it make sure it
points to the xml2-config program.

I should tighten up the autoconf test of course...

-b

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From gtgbr at gmx.net  Thu Apr 25 18:16:19 2002
From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:16:19 +0200
Subject: [icecast] ices compile problems (again...)
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020424232236.032b61d8@mail.lamrim.com>
Message-ID: <3CC847F3.7890F5B8@gmx.net>



Roy Harvey wrote:
> ./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so

try something like

./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/bin/xml-config

<p>Moritz

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From 500CEO at 163.C0M  Sat Apr 27 17:58:38 2002
From: 500CEO at 163.C0M (500CEO at 163.C0M)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 01:58:38 +0800
Subject: [icecast] 中国北京国际科技博览会暨中国北京高新技术产业国际周
Message-ID: <1267586-220024627175838787@211.100.15.55>



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From roy at lamrim.com  Fri Apr 26 01:32:08 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:32:08 -0700
Subject: [icecast] ices compile problems (again...)
In-Reply-To: <3CC847F3.7890F5B8@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020425183103.00b037d0@mail.lamrim.com>



Thanks Brendan and Moritz!

Reminds me a bit of LOTR "Speak Friend and Enter..."

All better now...

Roy

At 08:16 PM 04/25/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Roy Harvey wrote:
> > ./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so
>
>try something like
>
>./configure --with-xml-config=/usr/local/bin/xml-config
>
>
>Moritz

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From roy at lamrim.com  Fri Apr 26 08:14:12 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 01:14:12 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Killing relay pulls?
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020425183103.00b037d0@mail.lamrim.com>
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All --

Via icecast I can do a nice relay pull in the command line.  But I can't 
seem to kind a way to permanently "un-relay".  I've tried kicking the 
sourceID, but it keeps coming back (due to the auto reconnect).

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Roy

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From mr_happymac at mac.com  Fri Apr 26 12:34:33 2002
From: mr_happymac at mac.com (peter mears)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:34:33 +0200
Subject: [icecast] icses
Message-ID: <F6604054-5911-11D6-820D-000393632E12@mac.com>



HI
I just wanted to know if anybody has successfully or attempted to 
install ices om Mac OsX ?
I have tried over the last few days, but no success, it would be good to 
know firstly if it is compatible before I spew my term output here and 
cause un-necessary spam
I have icecast-1.3.12 up and running with Shout,  a fink 
(fink.sourceforge.net) port but I see from the home page this is not 
recommended.
Any infos would be great

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From roy at lamrim.com  Sat Apr 27 17:41:19 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:41:19 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Archive Dump Failure / Error Codes?
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Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020427103902.00b0ace0@mail.lamrim.com>



All --

Any idea why a stream dump would fail?

 > dump 123 test.mp3
Failed opening dumpfile [test.mp3] for source 123 [4]

Are the error codes listed somewhere?

Thanks!

Roy

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From brendan at icecast.org  Tue Apr 30 03:40:19 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:40:19 -0400
Subject: [icecast] ices on OS X
In-Reply-To: <F6604054-5911-11D6-820D-000393632E12@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20020430034019.GC1824@xanadu.kublai.com>



On Friday, 26 April 2002 at 14:34, peter mears wrote:
> HI 
> I just wanted to know if anybody has successfully or attempted to 
> install ices om Mac OsX ? 
> I have tried over the last few days, but no success, it would be good 
> to know firstly if it is compatible before I spew my term output here 
> and cause un-necessary spam 
> I have icecast-1.3.12 up and running with Shout,  a fink 
> (fink.sourceforge.net) port but I see from the home page this is not 
> recommended. 
> Any infos would be great 

Well, I just now tested out the latest CVS on OS X and it seems to work
fine (although I didn't try building with lame or python). But using CVS
ices on OS X might be problematic if you're using fink, since it doesn't
seem to be ready for autoconf 2.5. I expect to release ices 0.2.3 in a
few days, so I'd recommend just waiting a bit for it...

-b

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From 500CEO at 163.C0M  Sun Apr 28 01:06:56 2002
From: 500CEO at 163.C0M (500CEO at 163.C0M)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 09:06:56 +0800
Subject: [icecast] 中国北京国际科技博览会暨中国北京高新技术产业国际周
Message-ID: <1837648-2200240281656353@211.100.15.79>



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 ??????????????????Mr. Scott McGregor
 
????????????????  ??????
 ?????????????????? Mr. Jong Yong Yun
 
AABB?????????????? Mr. Jorgrn Centerman
 ?????????????????????????? Mr. Kurt Hellstrom 
 
????????????????  ??????????
 ????????????CEO  Mr. Ken Lewis
 
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???????????????? ????????????                     Email?? Lim at public.bta.net

?????????????? www.hightechbj.com    

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 5????/

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 8000??

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?? ????????????????????????????????????(????) 
 3800??
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From malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr  Tue Apr 30 22:55:45 2002
From: malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr (C閐ric Mallet)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:55:45 +0200
Subject: [icecast] IceS compiling problems
Message-ID: <02050100554500.00930@mallet.via.ecp.fr>


I have serious problems to compile IceS on a debian (woody), kernel 2.4.18.
I have to say the configure script does not find anything...

- I installed libshout and libshout-dev downloaded drom the icecast site. I 
have shout.h :
0:33 root at radiopi2 /usr/include/shout# ls
shout.h

Yet configure gives me this :
~/sources/ices-0.2.2% ./configure --with-libshout=/usr/include
checking for shout/shout.h... (cached) no
configure: error: Could not find an installed shout library

- Lame is not found neither. I have (lame and lame-dev 3.91 from deb 
packages):
lame in /usr/bin
lame.h in /usr/include/lame
lib files in /usr/lib :
/usr/lib# ls -l libmp3lame* 
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       364104 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.a
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          668 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.la
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so -> 
libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so.0 -> 
libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       319696 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.so.0.0.0

And with that :
./configure --with-lame=/usr/bin --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame 
--with-lame-libraries=/usr/lib
[...]
checking for lame/lame.h... (cached) no
checking for lame.h... (cached) no
configure: error: Could not find a valid LAME library installation

This seems to mean that lame files are found but not valid, or unusable...

I think the problem is global and is not only about lame.
I put the whole configuration output attached ; this is rather urgent, any 
help is really welcome...

Thanks in advance.

Ced

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From brendan at icecast.org  Tue Apr 30 23:11:33 2002
From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:11:33 -0400
Subject: [icecast] IceS compiling problems
In-Reply-To: <02050100554500.00930@mallet.via.ecp.fr>
Message-ID: <20020430231133.GC1255@xanadu.kublai.com>



On Wednesday, 01 May 2002 at 00:55, C?dric Mallet wrote:
> I have serious problems to compile IceS on a debian (woody), kernel 2.4.18.
> I have to say the configure script does not find anything...
> 
> - I installed libshout and libshout-dev downloaded drom the icecast site. I 
> have shout.h :
> 0:33 root at radiopi2 /usr/include/shout# ls
> shout.h
> 
> Yet configure gives me this :
> ~/sources/ices-0.2.2% ./configure --with-libshout=/usr/include
> checking for shout/shout.h... (cached) no
> configure: error: Could not find an installed shout library

First, make sure you remove config.cache
Second, don't bother with the --with-libshout option at all - ices
should find it automatically.
Third, you want --with-libshout=/usr

--with-x options that take an argument usually expect the same thing you
would use as --prefix when building it. This is standard autoconf
convention.

So when you say --with-libshout=/usr/include, the configure script
searches /usr/include/include/shout/shout.h and
/usr/include/lib/libshout.so

Fourth, you don't need libshout at all, ices comes with it.

> - Lame is not found neither. I have (lame and lame-dev 3.91 from deb 
> packages):
> lame in /usr/bin
> lame.h in /usr/include/lame
> lib files in /usr/lib :
> /usr/lib# ls -l libmp3lame* 
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       364104 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.a
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          668 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.la
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so -> 
> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so.0 -> 
> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       319696 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> 
> And with that :
> ./configure --with-lame=/usr/bin --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame 
> --with-lame-libraries=/usr/lib

Same thing.
First, don't specify any argument.
Second, try only --with-lame
Third, if you really want to be precise, use --with-lame=/usr
Those other options (-includes, -libraries) are usually not needed
except in unusual installations.

> I think the problem is global and is not only about lame.
> I put the whole configuration output attached ; this is rather urgent, any 
> help is really welcome...

I think you just need a little more experience building from source.
Unfortunately there is no deb package for ices. I've been hoping to make
the linked in libraries loadable at runtime (dlopen'd) if I get the time
- this might make ices suitable for packaging with debian...

-b

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From malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr  Tue Apr 30 23:24:48 2002
From: malletc3 at cti.ecp.fr (C閐ric Mallet)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:24:48 +0200
Subject: [icecast] IceS compiling problems
In-Reply-To: <20020430231133.GC1255@xanadu.kublai.com>
Message-ID: <02050101244801.00930@mallet.via.ecp.fr>



On Wednesday 01 May 2002 01:11, you wrote:

You were right, removing config.cache worked.
Thank you very much for your explanations.

Ced

> On Wednesday, 01 May 2002 at 00:55, C?dric Mallet wrote:
> > I have serious problems to compile IceS on a debian (woody), kernel
> > 2.4.18. I have to say the configure script does not find anything...
> >
> > - I installed libshout and libshout-dev downloaded drom the icecast site.
> > I have shout.h :
> > 0:33 root at radiopi2 /usr/include/shout# ls
> > shout.h
> >
> > Yet configure gives me this :
> > ~/sources/ices-0.2.2% ./configure --with-libshout=/usr/include
> > checking for shout/shout.h... (cached) no
> > configure: error: Could not find an installed shout library
>
> First, make sure you remove config.cache
> Second, don't bother with the --with-libshout option at all - ices
> should find it automatically.
> Third, you want --with-libshout=/usr
>
> --with-x options that take an argument usually expect the same thing you
> would use as --prefix when building it. This is standard autoconf
> convention.
>
> So when you say --with-libshout=/usr/include, the configure script
> searches /usr/include/include/shout/shout.h and
> /usr/include/lib/libshout.so
>
> Fourth, you don't need libshout at all, ices comes with it.
>
> > - Lame is not found neither. I have (lame and lame-dev 3.91 from deb
> > packages):
> > lame in /usr/bin
> > lame.h in /usr/include/lame
> > lib files in /usr/lib :
> > /usr/lib# ls -l libmp3lame*
> > -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       364104 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.a
> > -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          668 f?v  1 17:49 libmp3lame.la
> > lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so ->
> > libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> > lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           19 mai  1 00:43 libmp3lame.so.0
> > -> libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> > -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       319696 f?v  1 17:49
> > libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
> >
> > And with that :
> > ./configure --with-lame=/usr/bin --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame
> > --with-lame-libraries=/usr/lib
>
> Same thing.
> First, don't specify any argument.
> Second, try only --with-lame
> Third, if you really want to be precise, use --with-lame=/usr
> Those other options (-includes, -libraries) are usually not needed
> except in unusual installations.
>
> > I think the problem is global and is not only about lame.
> > I put the whole configuration output attached ; this is rather urgent,
> > any help is really welcome...
>
> I think you just need a little more experience building from source.
> Unfortunately there is no deb package for ices. I've been hoping to make
> the linked in libraries loadable at runtime (dlopen'd) if I get the time
> - this might make ices suitable for packaging with debian...
>
> -b
>
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From roy at lamrim.com  Tue Apr 30 23:52:12 2002
From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:52:12 -0700
Subject: [icecast] Archive Dump Failure / Error Codes?
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20020427103902.00b0ace0@mail.lamrim.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20020430165042.032ff2e0@mail.lamrim.com>



All --

The solution turned out to be a file privileges problem.  The solution 
seemed to be pointing the dump file to /tmp (ex: dump 123 /tmp/test.mp3).

Roy

At 10:41 AM 04/27/02 -0700, you wrote:
>All --
>
>Any idea why a stream dump would fail?
>
> > dump 123 test.mp3
>Failed opening dumpfile [test.mp3] for source 123 [4]
>
>Are the error codes listed somewhere?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Roy
>
>
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