From aschiffler at home.com Tue May 1 11:50:52 2001 From: aschiffler at home.com (Andreas Schiffler) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 07:50:52 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Protocol Message-ID: <3AEEA31C.204A0BED@home.com> Hi all, wanted to ask again if someone has some online documentation on the icecast (or shoutcast) protocol at the socket/data level. I'd like to write my own reader routine that can feed data to the mp3 decoder. I've gotten as far as getting the actual stream after the GET request, but lack the documentation to use the headers that are returned and seperate the mp3 data from the meta data. Thanks. Andreas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Tue May 1 15:02:34 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:02:34 -0100 Subject: [icecast] Protocol In-Reply-To: <3AEEA31C.204A0BED@home.com> Message-ID: <20010501140234.B244@dyne.org> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:50:52AM -0400, Andreas Schiffler wrote: > Hi all, > > wanted to ask again if someone has some online documentation on the > icecast (or shoutcast) protocol at the socket/data level. > > I'd like to write my own reader routine that can feed data to the mp3 > decoder. I've gotten as far as getting the actual stream after the GET > request, but lack the documentation to use the headers that are returned > and seperate the mp3 data from the meta data. > > Thanks. > Andreas hi Andreas! have a look into MuSE/libmpeg/httpinput.cc (http://muse.dyne.org) i hope that code can help you figuring out i also suggest you to use use libmpeg by Woo-jae Jung as a mp3 decoder library, it's LGPL and for me worked really fine with few modifications (misses just buffering which would be good to implement) btw congratulations for your libbgrab, i enjoy your code :) cheers -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ballen at mail.serve.com Tue May 1 14:16:05 2001 From: ballen at mail.serve.com (ballen at mail.serve.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:16:05 -0400 Subject: [icecast] liblame In-Reply-To: <20010428063803.63513.qmail@web13801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010501101605.A1374@china.ballenhome> On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:38:03PM +1200, ?????? wrote: > I have compiled lame3.70 and installed but IceS still says it can't > find liblame. Is it not included in lame3.70 tar file? If not, where > can I get it? I may be wrong in my recollection, but it seems that I had to hand copy liblame to /usr/local/lib. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 2 14:41:12 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:41:12 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Directories Message-ID: <200105021441.IAA15654@home.knm.org> I just started experimenting with the directories yesterday - I am showing up in the yp.icecast.org but none of the ones that use icydir. It has been about 12 hours since I enabled the directories. I can see messages in the logfile for the xaudiocast directory servers, but not for the icy directory servers. Will it take awhile to show up or is there a problem? Thanks, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 2 18:55:57 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:55:57 -0600 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions Message-ID: <200105021855.MAA18153@home.knm.org> I'm learning more, it looks like shoutcast is never going to work without using some closed source software, but the other directories give me a "directory server error #0". Are these errors documented anywhere? Thanks, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Wed May 2 19:05:06 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:05:06 -0700 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <200105021855.MAA18153@home.knm.org> Message-ID: <20010502120506.C9305@tk421.cantcode.com> > I'm learning more, it looks like shoutcast is never going to work > without using some closed source software, but the other directories > give me a "directory server error #0". Are these errors documented > anywhere? With the changes in cvs icecast i made just recently (CVS icecast is the latest release on the website + these changes I'm discussing) you should be able to use yp.shoutcast.com correctly. You should be able to use yp.icecast.org correctly in either icy or normal directory mode. For any other server, you'll have to inquire with them, as a few of them aren't well maintained or have been abandoned. What are the directory alternatives these days anyway? And this seems as good a time as any to start talking about the new icecast2 directory stuff. You can find my current rough thoughts in the 'newdir' CVS module. I'll probably write htem up more nicely in a few days and post them on the list as well. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at arkena.com Wed May 2 18:33:48 2001 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:33:48 +0200 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <20010502120506.C9305@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <20010502203348.A20451@mmstreaming.dk> On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:05:06PM -0700, Jack Moffitt wrote: > And this seems as good a time as any to start talking about the new > icecast2 directory stuff. You can find my current rough thoughts in the > 'newdir' CVS module. I'll probably write htem up more nicely in a few > days and post them on the list as well. It should be fully mirroable for sure! Then we would run one on our fat pipe! :) -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk thomas at arkena.com http://www.arkena.com Where humor is concerned there are no standards -- no one can say what is good or bad, although you can be sure that everyone will. -- John Kenneth Galbraith --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 2 19:43:27 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:43:27 -0600 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <20010502120506.C9305@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <200105021943.NAA21099@home.knm.org> > I'm learning more, it looks like shoutcast is never going to work > without using some closed source software, but the other directories > give me a "directory server error #0". Are these errors documented > anywhere? With the changes in cvs icecast i made just recently (CVS icecast is the latest release on the website + these changes I'm discussing) you should be able to use yp.shoutcast.com correctly. You should be able to use yp.icecast.org correctly in either icy or normal directory mode. directory mode gave a -1, but icy mode works!! Thanks. The next question I have (there's always one more isn't there 8-): I have metadata enabled, and I am doing a relay from my home dsl system to the t-1 system, which is doing the yp updates. However, my shoutcast entry doesn't have the longer description or the "now playing" option - should metadata take care of this, and will metadata survive through a relay? Thanks again, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Wed May 2 19:49:06 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:49:06 -0700 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <200105021943.NAA21099@home.knm.org> Message-ID: <20010502124906.D9305@tk421.cantcode.com> > I have metadata enabled, and I am doing a relay from my home dsl > system to the t-1 system, which is doing the yp updates. However, my > shoutcast entry doesn't have the longer description or the "now > playing" option - should metadata take care of this, and will metadata > survive through a relay? Now playing only works with title streaming. this won't work through a relay in icecast. We never got to it. What's the 'longer description" is that the icecast description field? If so, shoutcast never supported those anyway. and yp.icecast.org doesn't list them on the front page. I had a yp.icecast.org at oen time that used them, but never finished it. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 2 20:00:02 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:00:02 -0600 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <20010502124906.D9305@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <200105022000.OAA21285@home.knm.org> > I have metadata enabled, and I am doing a relay from my home dsl > system to the t-1 system, which is doing the yp updates. However, my > shoutcast entry doesn't have the longer description or the "now > playing" option - should metadata take care of this, and will metadata > survive through a relay? Now playing only works with title streaming. this won't work through a relay in icecast. We never got to it. I see. Is it difficult to implement? What's the 'longer description" is that the icecast description field? If so, shoutcast never supported those anyway. and yp.icecast.org doesn't list them on the front page. I had a yp.icecast.org at oen time that used them, but never finished it. Apparently this is the -d command line option in ices. Perhaps I could hack ices to read the title from each file and update this; would that work? Is this already possible in the perl extensions? Thanks, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Wed May 2 20:51:10 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:51:10 -0700 Subject: [icecast] more directory questions In-Reply-To: <200105022000.OAA21285@home.knm.org> Message-ID: <20010502135110.F9305@tk421.cantcode.com> > Now playing only works with title streaming. this won't work through a > relay in icecast. We never got to it. > > I see. Is it difficult to implement? It's non-trivial, but not super hard. Since i'm the only one writing server code, it's not likely to ever get done, as most of my efforts are on icecast2. > What's the 'longer description" is that the icecast description field? > If so, shoutcast never supported those anyway. and yp.icecast.org > doesn't list them on the front page. I had a yp.icecast.org at oen time > that used them, but never finished it. > > Apparently this is the -d command line option in ices. Perhaps I > could hack ices to read the title from each file and update this; > would that work? Is this already possible in the perl extensions? Ices already supports updating all the information. For instance, if you used it with a shoutcast server, it would work with songtitles. It will even work in icecast without a relay. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 2 23:38:47 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:38:47 -0600 Subject: [icecast] perhaps dump re-encoding question Message-ID: <200105022338.RAA22332@home.knm.org> Hello. I am trying to have one stream at 128k, and one at 56k, but with the same contents. Is this possible with ices? From a careful reading of the options, it looks like reencoding will only generate one stream, at the re-encoded rate. Thanks, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at kublai.com Thu May 3 00:05:27 2001 From: brendan at kublai.com (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:05:27 -0400 Subject: [icecast] perhaps dump re-encoding question In-Reply-To: <200105022338.RAA22332@home.knm.org> Message-ID: <20010502200527.A607@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 02 May 2001 at 17:38, Mark Lehrer wrote: > > Hello. I am trying to have one stream at 128k, and one at 56k, but > with the same contents. Is this possible with ices? From a careful > reading of the options, it looks like reencoding will only generate > one stream, at the re-encoded rate. I have no answer, but I would like to reiterate (posted the same question Friday, I think) that I would love to be be able to do this too. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 3 00:10:00 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:10:00 -0700 Subject: [icecast] perhaps dump re-encoding question In-Reply-To: <20010502200527.A607@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <20010502171000.H9305@tk421.cantcode.com> > > Hello. I am trying to have one stream at 128k, and one at 56k, but > > with the same contents. Is this possible with ices? From a careful > > reading of the options, it looks like reencoding will only generate > > one stream, at the re-encoded rate. > > I have no answer, but I would like to reiterate (posted the same > question Friday, I think) that I would love to be be able to do this > too. It was the intent that ices do this, when I told alex what I wanted built. I don't think he quite got that far. This will be supported in ices2, however, you'll be using Vorbis instead of mp3 ;) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Thu May 3 01:38:17 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:38:17 -0700 Subject: [icecast] perhaps dump re-encoding question In-Reply-To: <20010502171000.H9305@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <00a301c0d371$baac67c0$6800000a@billnew> Does anyone have any Icecast2 test streams up yet? I'm particularly interested in hearing how well Vorbis/Icecast2 handle live encoding. thanks -bg > This will be supported in ices2, however, you'll be using Vorbis instead > of mp3 ;) > > jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From austad at marketwatch.com Thu May 3 04:38:26 2001 From: austad at marketwatch.com (Austad, Jay) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:38:26 -0500 Subject: [icecast] vorbis headers Message-ID: <7402C6826C67B547A7F1870FCB4D5F6F1098F3@mspexch1.office.mktw.net> Does anyone have a dump of what the icecast server sends to winamp or xmms when accessing a Vorbis stream? Or at least the format of the headers before it starts sending RTP stuff? Thanks. Jay --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 3 07:55:17 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:55:17 -0700 Subject: [icecast] perhaps dump re-encoding question In-Reply-To: <00a301c0d371$baac67c0$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: <20010503005517.N9305@tk421.cantcode.com> There's about 4-5 people that have been testing it. So far there's been no major problems found other than build system issues. Ices2 is now also in a usable state, so I will probably start running a regular test stream. I'll post here once I put something up. jack. On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 06:38:17PM -0700, William Goldsmith wrote: > Does anyone have any Icecast2 test streams up yet? I'm particularly > interested in hearing how well Vorbis/Icecast2 handle live encoding. > > thanks > -bg > > > This will be supported in ices2, however, you'll be using Vorbis instead > > of mp3 ;) > > > > jack. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Thu May 3 09:16:46 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:16:46 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s Message-ID: <20010503111646.D8603@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Hi, does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU (P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. can anybody please enlight me? regards Martin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de - mailto: `echo maNrtOin at hSiePrlAinMg.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ramzeus at home.se Thu May 3 12:29:08 2001 From: ramzeus at home.se (Patrik Lindahl) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:29:08 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <20010503111646.D8603@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <3471728089.20010503142908@home.se> I also have problems with streams over 160 Kb/s. I use pre encoded mp3 files and ices. I think IceCast sends the mp3 data to slow to the clients. ~~ Med v?nliga h?lsningar, Patrik Lindahl mailto:ramzeus at home.se Thursday, May 03, 2001, 11:16:46 AM, you wrote: MH> Hi, MH> does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? MH> I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters MH> very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU MH> (P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times MH> faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. MH> can anybody please enlight me? MH> regards Martin -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From aschiffler at home.com Thu May 3 13:33:18 2001 From: aschiffler at home.com (Andreas Schiffler) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:33:18 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Protocol In-Reply-To: <20010501140234.B244@dyne.org> Message-ID: <3AF15E1E.4D282D5E@home.com> jaromil, > > > > wanted to ask again if someone has some online documentation on the > > icecast (or shoutcast) protocol at the socket/data level. > > have a look into MuSE/libmpeg/httpinput.cc (http://muse.dyne.org) > i hope that code can help you figuring out > No actually not. It just makes the connection to the shoutcast/icecast server. I've gotten this far. > i also suggest you to use use libmpeg by Woo-jae Jung as a mp3 decoder library, it's LGPL and for > me worked really fine with few modifications (misses just buffering which would be good to > implement) I am using xaudio. > > btw congratulations for your libbgrab, i enjoy your code :) Thanks. I haven't worked on it for a while due to lack of time ... Ciao Andreas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Thu May 3 13:37:39 2001 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (Oddsock) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:37:39 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Protocol In-Reply-To: <3AF15E1E.4D282D5E@home.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010503083423.02b3f238@oddsock.org> Here is my code which shows the ICY protocol in action...please, no comments on the code, I know it's ugly (and it's win32)... :) key thing to note is for Shoutcast, there are 2 socket connections needed, but only 1 for Icecast. also, I can use this same logic to connect to a Icecast2 server (gOggFlag) as well.... oddsock int connectToServer() { int s_socket = 0; char buffer[1024] = ""; char contentString[1024] = ""; int PubServ = 0; if (!strcmp(gPubServ, "TRUE")) { PubServ = 1; } char brate[25] = ""; if (!strcmp(gOggFlag, "1")) { sprintf(brate, "%s", gOggBitrateSplit); } else { sprintf(brate, "%d", gLAMEOptions.brate); } gSCFlag = 0; dataChannel.initWinsockLib(); SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Connecting..."); if ((!strcmp(gOggFlag, "1")) || (gIcecastFlag)) { gSCSocket = dataChannel.DoSocketConnect(gServer, atoi(gPort)); } else { gSCSocket = dataChannel.DoSocketConnect(gServer, atoi(gPort)+1); } if (gSCSocket == -1) { // MessageBox(NULL, "Cannot connect to server", "Error", MB_OK); SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_CONNECT, "Connect"); SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Connect Failed..."); return -1; } int pswdok = 1; SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Connected..."); if ((!strcmp(gOggFlag, "1")) || (gIcecastFlag)) { if (!strcmp(gOggFlag, "1")) { sprintf(contentString, "SOURCE %s ICE/1.0\nice-password: %s\nice-name: %s\nice-url: %s\nice-genre: %s\nice-bitrate: %s\nice-public: %d\nice-description: %s\n\n", gMountpoint, gPassword, gServDesc, gServURL, gServGenre, brate, PubServ, gServDesc); } if (gIcecastFlag) { sprintf(contentString, "SOURCE %s %s\nx-audiocast-name: %s\nx-audiocast-url: %s\nx-audiocast-genre: %s\nx-audiocast-bitrate: %s\nx-audiocast-public: %d\nx-audiocast-description: %s\n\n", gPassword,gMountpoint, gServDesc, gServURL, gServGenre, brate, PubServ, gServDesc); } } else { send(gSCSocket, gPassword, strlen(gPassword), NULL); send(gSCSocket, "\r\n", strlen("\r\n"), NULL); recv(gSCSocket, buffer, sizeof(buffer), NULL); if (!strncmp(buffer, "OK", strlen("OK"))) { if (!strncmp(buffer, "OK2", strlen("OK2"))) { gSCFlag = 1; } else { gSCFlag = 0; } SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Password OK..."); } else { SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Password Failed..."); closesocket(gSCSocket); return -1; } sprintf(contentString, "icy-name:%s\r\nicy-genre:%s\r\nicy-url:%s\r\nicy-pub: %d\r\nicy-br:%s\r\n\r\n", gServDesc,gServGenre,gServURL, PubServ,brate); } send(gSCSocket, contentString, strlen(contentString), NULL); if (gIcecastFlag) { recv(gSCSocket, buffer, sizeof(buffer), NULL); if (!strncmp(buffer, "OK", strlen("OK"))) { if (!strncmp(buffer, "OK2", strlen("OK2"))) { gSCFlag = 1; } else { gSCFlag = 0; } SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Password OK..."); } else { SetDlgItemText(gHwnd, IDC_STATUS, "Password Failed..."); closesocket(gSCSocket); return -1; } } if (gSCFlag) { sprintf(contentString, "GET /index.html HTTP/1.0\r\nUser-Agent: (Mozilla Compatible)\r\n\r\n"); gSCSocketControl = controlChannel.DoSocketConnect(gServer, atoi(gPort)); if (gSCSocketControl != -1) { send(gSCSocketControl, contentString, strlen(contentString), NULL); closesocket(gSCSocketControl); updateSongTitle(); } else { // MessageBox(NULL, "Cannot connect to server", "Error", MB_OK); } } } At 08:33 AM 5/3/2001, you wrote: >jaromil, > > > > > > > wanted to ask again if someone has some online documentation on the > > > icecast (or shoutcast) protocol at the socket/data level. > > > > have a look into MuSE/libmpeg/httpinput.cc (http://muse.dyne.org) > > i hope that code can help you figuring out > > > >No actually not. It just makes the connection to the shoutcast/icecast >server. I've gotten this far. > > > i also suggest you to use use libmpeg by Woo-jae Jung as a mp3 decoder > library, it's LGPL and for > > me worked really fine with few modifications (misses just buffering > which would be good to > > implement) > >I am using xaudio. > > > > > btw congratulations for your libbgrab, i enjoy your code :) > >Thanks. I haven't worked on it for a while due to lack of time ... > >Ciao >Andreas > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Thu May 3 13:47:15 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:47:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <20010503111646.D8603@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: > Hi, > > does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? > I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters > very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU > (P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times > faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. > > can anybody please enlight me? I have Icecast streaming 192 kbit/sec, layer II though. It's at http://cleo.rug.ac.be:8000/mix it streams out of a FIFO, and apart from the fact that the backend programming sometimes makes shout crash for that, other than that it plays fine. thomas <-*- -*-> Ik zei dat ik voor haar wou sterven en dat vond zij niet fijn Zij hield van dieren en van mensen die in leven wilden zijn <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu May 3 14:33:03 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 00:33:03 +1000 Subject: [icecast] vorbis headers In-Reply-To: <7402C6826C67B547A7F1870FCB4D5F6F1098F3@mspexch1.office.mkt w.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010504003303.420ec100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 11:38 PM 5/2/01 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have a dump of what the icecast server sends to winamp or xmms >when accessing a Vorbis stream? Or at least the format of the headers >before it starts sending RTP stuff? icecast doesn't use RTP at all, and won't until (at least) version 3. As for what HTTP headers it sends when it does (over HTTP, since that's all that's supported), I'm not entirely sure. I think others have answered this. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Thu May 3 19:54:57 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:54:57 -0100 Subject: [icecast] Protocol In-Reply-To: <3AF15E1E.4D282D5E@home.com> Message-ID: <20010503185457.C28475@dyne.org> On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:33:18AM -0400, Andreas Schiffler wrote: > jaromil, > > > > > > > wanted to ask again if someone has some online documentation on the > > > icecast (or shoutcast) protocol at the socket/data level. > > > > have a look into MuSE/libmpeg/httpinput.cc (http://muse.dyne.org) > > i hope that code can help you figuring out > > > > No actually not. It just makes the connection to the shoutcast/icecast > server. I've gotten this far. orry then i don't understand what you need: that code is connecting, reading out data and playing the stream from the server socket (it's not all in that file btw). alltough i understand your need for plain documentation instead of peeking around into code. > > > i also suggest you to use use libmpeg by Woo-jae Jung as a mp3 decoder library, it's LGPL and for > > me worked really fine with few modifications (misses just buffering which would be good to > > implement) > > I am using xaudio. i used it too on older versions of muse, take it just as an advice: libmpeg code is faster, reliable, threadsafe and last but not least LGPL. i signed the xaudio license and sended the fax and never received something back (6 months passed). if you don't have that license approved back allready i guess it's not a good move to develop on it cause you get problems in not being able to distribute. > > btw congratulations for your libbgrab, i enjoy your code :) > > Thanks. I haven't worked on it for a while due to lack of time ... (OT) i'm working out something using your effects, first release planned within the month. hope you will appreciate. -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Thu May 3 18:29:40 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 11:29:40 -0700 Subject: [icecast] mod_mp3 Message-ID: Anyone here every tried mod_mp3 for Apache? How does it compare to ices+icecast? Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 3 18:43:26 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:43:26 -0700 Subject: [icecast] mod_mp3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010503114326.S9305@tk421.cantcode.com> The author has started hanging out in #icecast and #vorbis irc. It does basically the same job, but in a much more limited scope. If all you want to do is put a playlist or a random playlist up, it will do the job. Much more than that, and you're out of it's domain. It's not likely to scale very far, as it's got the weight of apache on it, and it's got one process per client (i think, but this is the stadnard way apache 1.3 works). Which means, if you have 200 clients, you have 200 apaches. jack. On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:29:40AM -0700, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > Anyone here every tried mod_mp3 for Apache? > > How does it compare to ices+icecast? > > Hunter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 3 22:04:57 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:04:57 -0700 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream Message-ID: <20010503150457.A14139@tk421.cantcode.com> Icecast 2.0 and Ices 2.0 are both fairly usable now. I have set up a semi-permanent test stream for people to bang on at: http://i.cantcode.com:8888/ices.ogg Please report any problems you have. I say semi-permanent, because it will probably crash now and then, and I will be developing and putting up the new versions on a regular basis. If it stops working for more than an hour, somethings wrong. I'm also moving in two weeks, so it will probably cease to exist about that time. CLIENT ISSUES ----------------- ogg123 - mostly broken in regards to streaming. the "W: stream error" message (or whatever similar message) is normal. ogg123's streaming is likely to be rewritten at some point, definately before the next major vorbis release. xmms - works great. no known issues. BUT you need the at least the beta4 vorbis plugin (cvs if you can get it) AND (and this is extremely important) the CVS version of the mpg123 input plugin. Symptoms of not upgrading your mpg123 plugin include constant rebuffering. If you report this error without upgrading the mpg123 plugin, I will probably slap you :) freeamp - vakor has been working with the freeamp guys. You'll need whatever the latest version is, possibly the latest beta version. afaik, there are no known issues with freeamp streaming. winamp - the beta4 plugin includes streaming, but it's horribly bad, just like ogg123. The entire winamp plugin is scheduled for a rewrite, or at the very least a severe gutting. Winamp streaming _does_ work, but your mileage may vary. Ok guys, test away. The stream is a 128kbps vorbis stream. It's vbr, but shouldn't vary too much. And it should sound absolutely excellent :) All songs are encoded with beta4. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 3 22:06:49 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:06:49 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <20010503111646.D8603@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <20010503150649.B14139@tk421.cantcode.com> > does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? > I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters > very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU > (P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times > faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. > > can anybody please enlight me? Icecast can handle high bitrate streams. So can libshout. Your mileage on ices, shout, and liveice may vary, but if you write code around libshout, it will work, as I tested libshout with 192kbps files for days. if you are using liveice, your problems might be related to processor usage. And if you're on a slow machine (read, sub-pentium-2) that might also be the case with any of the tools. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tposton1 at swbell.net Thu May 3 23:03:31 2001 From: tposton1 at swbell.net (Todd Poston) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:03:31 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream In-Reply-To: <20010503150457.A14139@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <001801c0d425$45d46600$0400005a@suppity.com> Jack, Thanks for the test stream (*in addition to everything else!* ;) you wrote: winamp - the beta4 plugin includes streaming, but it's horribly bad, just like ogg123. The entire winamp plugin is scheduled for a rewrite, or at the very least a severe gutting. Winamp streaming _does_ work, but your mileage may vary. Well, FWIW, I just downloaded the winamp plugin from: http://vorbis.com/files/beta4/windows/winamp-vorbis-1.0beta4.zip and hit up on your stream. It pulled the title info (Bjork - New World) but then locks up.. no sounds at all and I have to kill winamp. (winamp v2.74). Then after starting winamp back up and connecting to my icecast server streaming regular ol' mp3 data i get "Server Error: 306 Grow up" at which point winamp continues to buffer and then will start playing the stream and the error msg goes away. Not sure what is going on here but it wasn't doing that til i added the latest vorbis winamp plugin. you wrote: "Please report any problems you have." well there ya go, Sorry to report non-success. :( thanks again, Todd ps - i'm still looking for any info on requirements for compiling icecast on win32 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From stevew at matrixInteractive.net Thu May 3 23:04:30 2001 From: stevew at matrixInteractive.net (Steve Wilder) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:04:30 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Dropping clients between songs Message-ID: Hello all. I'm using Icecast version 1.3.10 and Shout version 0.8.0. I can start them up, and connect using a Winamp client on the LAN. But, in between songs my client loses connection, and I need to hit "Play" again to reconnect. Also, the speed is just not what it should be. The server and the client are sitting on the same LAN. Any suggestions? Thank you, Steve Wilder Matrix Interactive, Inc. http://www.matrixinteractive.net/ Desk: 248.814.8235 Cell: 248.894.3128 Fax : 248.814.8236 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From szoth at ubertechnique.com Thu May 3 23:48:10 2001 From: szoth at ubertechnique.com (Seth de l'Isle) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:48:10 -0700 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream In-Reply-To: <20010503150457.A14139@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <20010503164810.A16340@maize.2720.net> On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:04:57PM -0700, Jack Moffitt wrote: > Icecast 2.0 and Ices 2.0 are both fairly usable now. > > I have set up a semi-permanent test stream for people to bang on at: > > http://i.cantcode.com:8888/ices.ogg > > Please report any problems you have. I tested the stream using xmms fresh out of cvs; it sounds great! I had some trouble connecting where the buffer would fill but not all the way and in the middle of buffering xmms would start the buffer filling over again. Sometimes it would stop and show "CONNECTING" as the status. Sometimes "CONNECTED, waiting for reply." The larger I set the buffer for the mpg123 plug-in the more serious the problem. If you'd like to compare this with the content of your logs I'm coming from: csb3049461-a.snbrn1.sfba.home.com 65.12.14.28 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From stevew at matrixInteractive.net Thu May 3 23:52:40 2001 From: stevew at matrixInteractive.net (Steve Wilder) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:52:40 -0400 Subject: FW: [icecast] Dropping clients between songs In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Dropping clients between songs> Message-ID: Actually, it was a coincidence that it was between songs... after trying again, my Winamp list the stream, and I looked in the icecast.log file and saw this: [03/May/2001:19:34:43] [8:Source Thread] Kicking client 11 [192.168.1.4] [Too ma ny errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 2 m inutes and 9 seconds, 1866136 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected Is this a processor/memory issue? The server is a Pentium 200 MMX. Thanks, again. Steve Wilder Matrix Interactive, Inc. http://www.matrixinteractive.net/ Desk: 248.814.8235 Cell: 248.894.3128 Fax : 248.814.8236 -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of Steve Wilder Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:05 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: [icecast] Dropping clients between songs Hello all. I'm using Icecast version 1.3.10 and Shout version 0.8.0. I can start them up, and connect using a Winamp client on the LAN. But, in between songs my client loses connection, and I need to hit "Play" again to reconnect. Also, the speed is just not what it should be. The server and the client are sitting on the same LAN. Any suggestions? Thank you, Steve Wilder Matrix Interactive, Inc. http://www.matrixinteractive.net/ Desk: 248.814.8235 Cell: 248.894.3128 Fax : 248.814.8236 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
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Quality of the stream is awesome compared to my MP3 station at 128k, or even some local 196k files! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Dean at Home Fri May 4 03:36:06 2001 From: Dean at Home (Dean at Home) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:36:06 -0700 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream In-Reply-To: <20010503164810.A16340@maize.2720.net> Message-ID: <009801c0d44b$5a54b370$0302a8c0@thor> Have suceeded on not having the connection drop, but it seems to lose audio in the transition between songs. The title updates to the new song, but no audio. It now streams through an entire song, but audio dies and has to be restarted to get audio back. Other than that, awesome! :) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Fri May 4 04:39:39 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 21:39:39 -0700 Subject: [icecast] linuxfund.org - funding for open source projects Message-ID: <20010503213939.G14176@tk421.cantcode.com> Xiph.org is up this round for funding from linuxfund.org. If you've never used linuxfund.org, go sign up :) basically, you vote with 'pesos' on which projects you'd like to see funded, and at the end of teh cycle, 5 projects are funded. Hopefully we'll be one of those projects :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Fri May 4 09:29:37 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:29:37 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010504112937.A6755@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Hello. > > very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU > > (P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times > > faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. > > > > can anybody please enlight me? > > I have Icecast streaming 192 kbit/sec, layer II though. > It's at http://cleo.rug.ac.be:8000/mix Could you please tell me something about you setup. The streaming server, version of icecast, any specials, version of os? Shout, on the same maschine or serving over network? Version of shout? Files encoded with lame? thanks for you help Martin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de - mailto: `echo maNrtOin at hSiePrlAinMg.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mindjiver at swipnet.se Fri May 4 10:12:01 2001 From: mindjiver at swipnet.se (Peter Jönsson) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:12:01 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <20010503111646.D8603@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20010504120254.00ce3660@gaia.swip.net> At 11:16 2001-05-03 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? >I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters >very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU >(P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times >faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. Have you tried to change the sleep_ratio value in the icecast.conf file to 0? I hade to change that to stop the stuttering when streaming 320Kbit/s mp3 over my local 10Mbit LAN. Im using ices-0.0.1.beta5 and icecast Version 1.3.8.beta2. This is running on a P2 266 with 64MB RAM under Debian 2.2. One question also... Do someone have crossfading working with ices/icecast or is that only possible if you use a plugin to xmms/winamp/whatever and use that as a source for icecast? // peter j?nsson --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Fri May 4 10:34:14 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:34:14 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20010504120254.00ce3660@gaia.swip.net> Message-ID: <20010504123414.B6755@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Hello, > At 11:16 2001-05-03 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >does anybody set up an icecast server delivering streams > 160KBit/s ? > >I tried that with liveice and shout but in both cases the stream stutters > >very much. So, I have eliminated the Net (stream to localhost), the CPU > >(P3/800 should be fast enough), and lame (can encode 320kBit/s 3 times > >faster then the wav has secs). So the Problem should be icecast. > > Have you tried to change the sleep_ratio value in the icecast.conf file to 0? > I hade to change that to stop the stuttering when streaming 320Kbit/s mp3 > over my local 10Mbit LAN. That was it. Thankx. I compiled the icecast on my Sun and that works without that. But my Linux box needs the sleep_ratio. gruss Martin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de - mailto: `echo maNrtOin at hSiePrlAinMg.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Fri May 4 10:38:08 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:38:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] Problem with Streams > 160KBit/s In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20010504120254.00ce3660@gaia.swip.net> Message-ID: > One question also... Do someone have crossfading working with ices/icecast > or is that only possible if you use a plugin to xmms/winamp/whatever and use > that as a source for icecast? Hi, we have a crossfading system based on a thesis I wrote doing mpegaudio mixing. I'm currently in the process of converting it to the gstreamer system (If you don't know that, check out what it does, it's at gstreamer.net and it even has icecast plugins) and make it more general to handle all types of audio data (though with the normal loss of speed in doing a full decode/mix/encode). thomas <-*- -*-> ik kon liegen ik kon jou bedriegen mezelf verraden zonder spijt <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From music at performantsystems.com Fri May 4 21:39:58 2001 From: music at performantsystems.com (Big Al) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:39:58 -0700 Subject: [icecast] linuxfund.org - funding for open source projects In-Reply-To: <20010503213939.G14176@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <3AF321AE.1EA6FB1B@performantsystems.com> I posted the max allowed 1500 Penguin Pesos and though it didn't cost me anything, it seemed like the right thing to do. Keep up the good work over there. -Big Al Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Xiph.org is up this round for funding from linuxfund.org. > > If you've never used linuxfund.org, go sign up :) > > basically, you vote with 'pesos' on which projects you'd like to see > funded, and at the end of teh cycle, 5 projects are funded. > > Hopefully we'll be one of those projects :) > > jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From un at king.dom.de Fri May 4 22:36:03 2001 From: un at king.dom.de (un) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:36:03 +0200 Subject: [icecast] off topic: info on mp3 files Message-ID: <20010505003603.A2879@king.dom.de> hi, this is way off topic, but maybe someone can help... i'm looking for a script or prog that gives me info on a mp3-file, like what mpg123 shows when starting up plus some tech details like size, time, frequency etc. i've tried perl-MP3-Info, but it doesn't know about album, title, artist etc. i want to use it for fetching as much info as possible from a file into a database. any other suggestion how to do it is also appreciated, thanks i.a., uno --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri May 4 22:59:54 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:59:54 -0700 Subject: [icecast] off topic: info on mp3 files In-Reply-To: <20010505003603.A2879@king.dom.de> Message-ID: <007601c0d4ed$eee1ffa0$6800000a@billnew> The perl MP3-Info module will give you anything you want from the id3 tag, including artist, title, etc. If you're not a perl programmer, you might want to look for a script called 'mpi' that makes a nice command-line frontend to the module. Hope this helps -bg --- Bill Goldsmith www.kpig.com www.radioparadise.com > > hi, > > this is way off topic, but maybe someone can help... > i'm looking for a script or prog that gives me info > on a mp3-file, like what mpg123 shows when starting up > plus some tech details like size, time, frequency etc. > i've tried perl-MP3-Info, but it doesn't know about > album, title, artist etc. > i want to use it for fetching as much info as possible > from a file into a database. any other suggestion how > to do it is also appreciated, > > thanks i.a., uno > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From un at king.dom.de Fri May 4 23:02:57 2001 From: un at king.dom.de (un) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 01:02:57 +0200 Subject: [icecast] off topic: info on mp3 files In-Reply-To: <007601c0d4ed$eee1ffa0$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: <20010505010257.B2879@king.dom.de> William Goldsmith: > The perl MP3-Info module will give you anything you want from the id3 tag, > including artist, title, etc. If you're not a perl programmer, you might > want to look for a script called 'mpi' that makes a nice command-line > frontend to the module. > > Hope this helps yes. i've just seen that everything is described in the MP3-Info-README, sorry for the noise. thanks! u. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ks_touray at fanafana.com Mon May 7 06:40:32 2001 From: ks_touray at fanafana.com (Katim S. Touray) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 23:40:32 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server Message-ID: <3AF64360.8CD70312@fanafana.com> Hi all, I would like information on how best to implement a system with one Icecast server, and many sources. I know LiveIce allows you to specify different mount points for different streams, but I have not been able to figure out how you can achieve the same functionality using Shoutcast DSP Plugin. Please let me know if you've been able to have many sources stream to one icecast server using Shoutcast, rather than LiveIce. Thanks in advance for your help, and best wishes. Katim ks_touray at fanafana.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon May 7 05:04:29 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:04:29 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server In-Reply-To: <3AF64360.8CD70312@fanafana.com> Message-ID: <20010506220429.K22816@tk421.cantcode.com> > points for different streams, but I have not been able to figure out how you can > achieve the same functionality using Shoutcast DSP Plugin. The short answer is the Shoutcast DSP doesn't work that way. If you run two dsp plugins on _different_ boxes with _different_ ip addresses, you could get it to work. Our tools are compatible with shoutcast for hte most part. Nullsoft's tools aren't compatbile with our stuff. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Mon May 7 05:09:48 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan.Walls) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:09:48 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server In-Reply-To: <3AF64360.8CD70312@fanafana.com> Message-ID: My experience says no, you can't do this using Shoutcast DSP plugins, at least not directly. You could have a separate Shoutcast server for each stream, and then alias them all from the Icecast server -- but that's almost certainly not what you want. However, you can use oddsock's (http://www.oddsock.org/) Oddcast DSP plugin in WinAmp to do exactly what you want -- specify a mountpoint for each stream. They call it beta, but the latest seems to be just as stable as the Shoutcast plugins for me. At 11:40 PM -0700 on 5/6/01, Katim S. Touray wrote: >Hi all, > >I would like information on how best to implement a system with one Icecast >server, and many sources. I know LiveIce allows you to specify >different mount >points for different streams, but I have not been able to figure out >how you can >achieve the same functionality using Shoutcast DSP Plugin. > >Please let me know if you've been able to have many sources stream to one >icecast server using Shoutcast, rather than LiveIce. Thanks in >advance for your >help, and best wishes. > >Katim >ks_touray at fanafana.com > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Bryan Walls bwalls at pobox.com Check out my web site at http://www.bwalls.com/ And my work website (I'm curator) at http://science.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Mon May 7 05:12:12 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan.Walls) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:12:12 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server In-Reply-To: <20010506220429.K22816@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: At 10:04 PM -0700 on 5/6/01, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > points for different streams, but I have not been able to figure >out how you can >> achieve the same functionality using Shoutcast DSP Plugin. > >The short answer is the Shoutcast DSP doesn't work that way. > >If you run two dsp plugins on _different_ boxes with _different_ ip >addresses, you could get it to work. How could you get it to work? That is, is there a way to set things up so the different machines always stream to specific mount points determined by the ip addresses? I need that. >Our tools are compatible with shoutcast for hte most part. Nullsoft's >tools aren't compatbile with our stuff. > >jack. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Bryan Walls bwalls at pobox.com Check out my web site at http://www.bwalls.com/ And my work website (I'm curator) at http://science.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon May 7 05:19:25 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:19:25 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010506221925.L22816@tk421.cantcode.com> > How could you get it to work? That is, is there a way to set things > up so the different machines always stream to specific mount points > determined by the ip addresses? I need that. icecast can identify the shoutcast dsp plugin. So it automatically gets a mountpoint. icy mountpoints always looke like /icy_0 or /icy_1 Each new icy source gets a new mountpoint. What icecast _can't_ do is tell apart two icy sources from the same ip address. It has no way to know if it's hte same source reconnecting or not. So an icy source from the same ip would probably get kicked. > From two different ips, icecast will know they are separate sources, and they will get assigned mountpoints. The problem, really, is that you don't have any control of what htose mountpoint are. You don't know if it will by icy_0 or icy_1. There are probably tricks you can do to be reasonably sure, like start them in the same order, etc. We did the best we could. I think multiple sources on a server is an important feature. Just like multiple files on a webserver. It's a pity that Nullsoft hasn't at least modified their tools the tiny amount they'd need to for this. But that's why there's people like Oddsock filling in the gaps :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hologram007 at hotmail.com Mon May 7 05:39:28 2001 From: hologram007 at hotmail.com (Bryan Miles) Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 22:39:28 -0700 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream In-Reply-To: <[icecast] icecast 2.0 semi-permanent test stream> Message-ID: I have sonique 1.808 and the stream works fine. Sounds great too. I even have title streaming. Getting Album-Artist-tracknumber-title. My winamp locks up everytime I try to play the stream with the beta plugin. Hope the info helps. hologram _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Mon May 7 09:06:25 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:06:25 +0200 Subject: [icecast] error in ice_resolve on libc5 system Message-ID: <20010507110625.A22544@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> HI, I got an Error while compiling the icecast Server on SuSE 5.3. ice_resolv.c: In function inux_gethostbyname_r': ice_resolv.c:170: warning: passing arg 5 of ethostbyname_r' from incompatible pointer type ice_resolv.c:170: too many arguments to function ethostbyname_r' ice_resolv.c: In function inux_gethostbyaddr_r': ice_resolv.c:181: warning: passing arg 7 of ethostbyaddr_r' from incompatible pointer type ice_resolv.c:181: too many arguments to function ethostbyaddr_r' make[3]: *** [ice_resolv.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Configure with no errors, gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release), libc.so.5.4.46, kernel 2.0.35 . I want to compile it on such an old System to copy it on a mini Linux Boot Disk. All the other tools (lame, liveice, mixer) are done. Only icecast make some Problems. Thanks for your help. regards Martin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ngorchilov at orbitel.bg Mon May 7 11:55:07 2001 From: ngorchilov at orbitel.bg (Nikolai Gorchilov) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:55:07 +0300 Subject: [icecast] Multiple sources on one Icecast server In-Reply-To: <20010506221925.L22816@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: > The problem, really, is that you don't have any control of what htose > mountpoint are. You don't know if it will by icy_0 or icy_1. There are > probably tricks you can do to be reasonably sure, like start them in the > same order, etc. > > We did the best we could. IMHO it'll be good if you add ip-address->mountpoint icecast.conf translation options. I.e. icymount ip_address mount_point Then running different streamers from different ip addresses at different time will work for sure. Regards, Niki --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Mon May 7 14:38:52 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:38:52 -0600 Subject: [icecast] off topic: info on mp3 files In-Reply-To: <20010505003603.A2879@king.dom.de> Message-ID: <200105071438.IAA20154@home.knm.org> this is way off topic, but maybe someone can help... i'm looking for a script or prog that gives me info on a mp3-file, like what mpg123 shows when starting up plus some tech details like size, time, frequency etc. There is a program called mp3info that does this; I thought it was included with some Linuxes. Use the -F option for different formats, some of them have a ridiculous amount of info, e.g.: root at home:icecast>mp3info -F 1 /mp3/napster/phish/ph1991-11-01-destiny.mp3 Destiny Unbound|Phish|11-1-1991|1991||Rock|0|2|III|0|128|22050|j-stereo|0|1|5|35|335|/mp3/napster/phish/ph1991-11-01-destiny.mp3|5361391 Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon May 7 17:04:30 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:04:30 -0700 Subject: [icecast] error in ice_resolve on libc5 system In-Reply-To: <20010507110625.A22544@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <20010507100430.B23834@tk421.cantcode.com> What I'd do is change config.h to say HAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME_R to undef instead of define. Apparently you're old libs are different from what's current. jack. On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:06:25AM +0200, Martin Hierling wrote: > HI, > > I got an Error while compiling the icecast Server on SuSE 5.3. > > ice_resolv.c: In function inux_gethostbyname_r': > ice_resolv.c:170: warning: passing arg 5 of ethostbyname_r' from > incompatible pointer type > ice_resolv.c:170: too many arguments to function ethostbyname_r' > ice_resolv.c: In function inux_gethostbyaddr_r': > ice_resolv.c:181: warning: passing arg 7 of ethostbyaddr_r' from > incompatible pointer type > ice_resolv.c:181: too many arguments to function ethostbyaddr_r' > make[3]: *** [ice_resolv.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10/src' > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10/src' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory /home/martin/icecast-1.3.10' > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > > Configure with no errors, gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release), > libc.so.5.4.46, kernel 2.0.35 . I want to compile it on such an old System > to copy it on a mini Linux Boot Disk. All the other tools (lame, liveice, > mixer) are done. Only icecast make some Problems. > Thanks for your help. > > regards Martin > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > /"\ > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML Mail > / \ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Mon May 7 19:20:45 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:20:45 -0700 Subject: FW: [icecast] Dropping clients between songs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010507122045.A19662@lns.com> Was there a studdering fix for 1.3.10? I still seem to have it. Tim On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 07:52:40PM -0400, Steve Wilder wrote: > > Actually, it was a coincidence that it was between songs... after trying > again, my Winamp list the stream, and I looked in the icecast.log file and > saw this: > > [03/May/2001:19:34:43] [8:Source Thread] Kicking client 11 [192.168.1.4] > [Too ma > ny errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for > 2 m > inutes and 9 seconds, 1866136 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected > > Is this a processor/memory issue? The server is a Pentium 200 MMX. > > Thanks, again. > > Steve Wilder > Matrix Interactive, Inc. > http://www.matrixinteractive.net/ > Desk: 248.814.8235 > Cell: 248.894.3128 > Fax : 248.814.8236 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Steve Wilder > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:05 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] Dropping clients between songs > > > > Hello all. > > I'm using Icecast version 1.3.10 and Shout version 0.8.0. I can start > them up, and connect using a Winamp client on the LAN. But, in between > songs my client loses connection, and I need to hit "Play" again to > reconnect. > > Also, the speed is just not what it should be. The server and the client > are sitting on the same LAN. > > Any suggestions? > > Thank you, > > Steve Wilder > Matrix Interactive, Inc. > http://www.matrixinteractive.net/ > Desk: 248.814.8235 > Cell: 248.894.3128 > Fax : 248.814.8236 > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From david at neongoat.com Mon May 7 23:15:53 2001 From: david at neongoat.com (David Parker) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:15:53 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] just a reminder In-Reply-To: <20010507100302.A23834@tk421.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <007801c0d74b$ab2324a0$1276a8c0@ruckus> > In addition to the stats.xml, there's a realtime sttas display. You > connect with STATS /all HTTP/1.0 instead of GET, and it will give you a > stats events as they happen. People should be able to do some > intersting stuff with that. Sounds very very cool. It would be interesting to have the STATS syntax report full client info (IP, speed, client, unique ID, etc) so that you can analyze listening trends with minimal hassle. David ------- david at neongoat.com www.neongoat.com PGP Key ID/Fingerprint: 0xF90FFFE5 / F362 51F7 6D51 85EB AF68 75B9 D29B 1AFC F90F FFE5 ------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com Wed May 9 10:37:34 2001 From: pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com (Pierre Amadio) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:37:34 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Using php as an administrative tools. Message-ID: <20010509123734.A24146@fr.alcove.com> Hi there. I m really impressed by the icecast tools and have been spending some times playing with it. Friends of mine use the server but as they are not really at ease with telneting for administrative purpose i had a try creating some php pages that will act as an administrative tools for icecast. Unfortunateley i didn t found any library that may help me communicate with the icecast server. Libshout looks ok for streaming data but not for other commands. So i started playing with sockets handled by php, and here troubles begins. As i have no clue about when the output of my command will be over, i try to use this kind of algorithm: connect to server send ADMIN passwd send untail send status off send oper passwd take whatever was send on the socket, and forget it. while we didnt get 2 uptime output: send uptime. send requested command. send uptime. get whatever was sent from the socket. return what has been send in the buffer. Then i read whatever has come from icecast and try to parse data between the two uptime commands. I did that beacause i had no other idea on how to have output surrounded by tags. Things seems to work ok when i request 'sources' or 'listeners' but problems arise sometimes with 'select' or 'kick' sentences. The apache connection to the icecast server doesnt stops by itself (as it shall do when encoutering the 2nd uptime output). I would like to know if any of you knows about working code (php or perl greatly appr?ciated :) ) that may help me understanding how this kind of connection may be properly done. Knowing how to customize the data generated by icecast so that output would be surronded by things would also be helpfull. Have a nice day. -- Pierre Amadio --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Dean at Home Wed May 9 23:50:09 2001 From: Dean at Home (Dean at Home) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:50:09 -0700 Subject: [icecast] RP #2: Dual "semi" random playlists? Message-ID: <002701c0d8e2$c7f059c0$0302a8c0@thor> Let's hope this makes it through without being bounced for HTML, I _think_ it's turned off! :) Greetings all, I run a non-public radio station at work, using a single Linux box running icecast and ices as a testbed right now. Eventually, it will be on a much larger box, with gobs of space, and each user will be able to FTP their own MP3's to the server and build dynamic playlists, from their own and the other MP3's. I'm leaning towards using something like Andromeda to allow the listeners to choose their own music, or something to allow them to build their own streams, but also want a "default" stream if you will, which is a random selection from all available MP3's. I've got a friend of mine, who is an ex-radio DJ, to make some 10-15 second ID's and promos for the station, and I'd like to be able to have them played every 5-6 selections, but randomize them as well. So, is they're a way to randomize a few thousand MP3's, but every 5 or 6, randomly play an MP3 from another selection of 12-15 MP3's? I hope so, the clips are awesome, and will add a lot to the station methinks. If I could only talk the PTB into letting me take it public now :) Thanks in advance! Dean at Home --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alfredo at nexus.org Thu May 10 05:44:37 2001 From: alfredo at nexus.org (Alfredo E. Cotroneo) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:44:37 +0200 Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010510072656.03a08450@mail2.nexus.org> Hi There, I have just ported to Linux a program that I wrote years ago in Prolog under DOS to automate our Shortwave radio station. Back in 1990 the original program used ADPCM coded audio files and a special board. Now I can use MP3 files and a Soundblaster compatible card ;-) under Linux, and it runs from a console without any fancy interface. I absolutely need to fade-in and fade-out audio, and now I use the mixer capability of the SoundBlaster, so a simple MP3 file scheduler is not enough for me. I am now trying to feed the output of this program (actually the output of the Sound card) to an icecast server. The easiest way would be to have another sound card and connect line-out (1st card) to line-in (2nd card) and use liveice to feed icecast. Either use two sound cards on the same PC (I did not mange yet) or even two Linux servers ;-)) I wonder if there is another easier way to do it without two soundcards. I MUST have fade-in/fade-out capabilities, and I currently use the card mixer to do that. I tried i.e. feeding Line-out and line-in of the same (duplex) Soundcard, but looks like the opensound audio driver cannot be open simultaneosly by two applications (liveice should only read, mpg123 should only write to the sound driver). Any idea or suggestion to avoid having two sound cards to do what I need to do ? Or how to fade in / fade out without using the card' mixer, while playing i.e. using mpg123 ? Thanks. Alfredo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Thu May 10 09:12:51 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:12:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010510072656.03a08450@mail2.nexus.org> Message-ID: > Any idea or suggestion to avoid having two sound cards to do what I need to > do ? > > Or how to fade in / fade out without using the card' mixer, while playing > i.e. using mpg123 ? Depends on how much you want to program. Basically, the easiest would probably be to use OSS software mixing; if you buy the commercial OSS drivers, you can have several programs writing to /dev/dsp and it will automatically mix. Then you need an mp3 playing program capable of software volume level. This isn't really what xmms seems to do; xmms seems to control the hardware audio level. In any case, you could write this yourself; changing the volume is merely a matter of reading in the sample values and multiplying them by a factor; 1.0 for no change, < 1.0 for quieter, > 1.0 for louder (but don't do this because you'll get distortion). You could write this as a standard program reading from stdin and writing to stdout and thus create a pipeline : mpg123 to stdout | volume from stdin to stdout > /dev/dsp do this for every file you want to play. Anyway, I'm currently writing something like this based on the gstreamer platform (gstreamer.net); it should do all of this and a bit more, since gstreamer can have various types of input (you could basically mix an mp3 with an ogg and an MPEG-2-video audio stream) and types of output (icecast, disk, sound out, ...). thomas <-*- -*-> There's a world outside And I know cause I've heard talk In my sweetest dreams I would go out for a walk <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Thu May 10 12:26:58 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:26:58 -0100 Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010510072656.03a08450@mail2.nexus.org> Message-ID: <20010510112658.A243@dyne.org> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:44:37AM +0200, Alfredo E. Cotroneo wrote: > Hi There, > > I have just ported to Linux a program that I wrote years ago in Prolog > under DOS to automate our Shortwave radio station. Back in 1990 the > original program used ADPCM coded audio files and a special board. Now I > can use MP3 files and a Soundblaster compatible card ;-) under Linux, and > it runs from a console without any fancy interface. I absolutely need to > fade-in and fade-out audio, and now I use the mixer capability of the > SoundBlaster, so a simple MP3 file scheduler is not enough for me. is it released somewhere or any release of that sourcecode is planned? -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Thu May 10 13:24:43 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:24:43 -0700 Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010510072656.03a08450@mail2.nexus.org> Message-ID: <3AFA969B.B305A30B@myplay.com> Liveice has a built in mixer that mixes the pcm streams before sendin them to the card, th drawback is that automation with crossfading would be hard.... you'd definately need to hack code to get it to work -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Thu May 10 14:26:50 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:26:50 -0700 Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010510072656.03a08450@mail2.nexus.org> Message-ID: <20010510072649.B42545@lns.com> I did something like this for KKSF where they wanted to mix between a wave file and a the over the air signal to insert different spot in the outgoing MP3 stream. I put two sound cards in a machine as they are cheap (~$20) played the wave on one sound card and mixed between them with other sound card. I wrote a program that looked at a line on the serial port and if it went high it would run "mixer" to crank down the live station feed, play the wave file and then run "mixer" to turn up the live audio again. One would either have a 30 or 60 second wave file to insert or a long cut and wait for the line to toggle back to go back to the live audio. The scheme works for those folks running into the AFTRA problem. Drop me a note if you want details or code. Tim On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:44:37AM +0200, Alfredo E. Cotroneo wrote: > Hi There, > > I have just ported to Linux a program that I wrote years ago in Prolog > under DOS to automate our Shortwave radio station. Back in 1990 the > original program used ADPCM coded audio files and a special board. Now I > can use MP3 files and a Soundblaster compatible card ;-) under Linux, and > it runs from a console without any fancy interface. I absolutely need to > fade-in and fade-out audio, and now I use the mixer capability of the > SoundBlaster, so a simple MP3 file scheduler is not enough for me. > > I am now trying to feed the output of this program (actually the output of > the Sound card) to an icecast server. The easiest way would be to have > another sound card and connect line-out (1st card) to line-in (2nd card) > and use liveice to feed icecast. Either use two sound cards on the same PC > (I did not mange yet) or even two Linux servers ;-)) > > I wonder if there is another easier way to do it without two soundcards. I > MUST have fade-in/fade-out capabilities, and I currently use the card mixer > to do that. I tried i.e. feeding Line-out and line-in of the same (duplex) > Soundcard, but looks like the opensound audio driver cannot be open > simultaneosly by two applications (liveice should only read, mpg123 should > only write to the sound driver). > > Any idea or suggestion to avoid having two sound cards to do what I need to > do ? > > Or how to fade in / fade out without using the card' mixer, while playing > i.e. using mpg123 ? > > Thanks. > > Alfredo > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Thu May 10 15:07:38 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:07:38 -0700 Subject: [icecast] MP3 decoding, fading and streaming at the same time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c0d962$f4fe41e0$6c07e4d8@laptop> Do a search for 'ecasound'. It does everything you need & more. You'll probably still want the OSS pro drivers, too. -bg ----- Bill Goldsmith www.radioparadise.com www.kpig.com > > Any idea or suggestion to avoid having two sound cards to do what I need to > > do ? > > > > Or how to fade in / fade out without using the card' mixer, while playing > > i.e. using mpg123 ? > > Depends on how much you want to program. > > Basically, the easiest would probably be to use OSS software mixing; if > you buy the commercial OSS drivers, you can have several programs writing > to /dev/dsp and it will automatically mix. > > Then you need an mp3 playing program capable of software volume level. > This isn't really what xmms seems to do; xmms seems to control the > hardware audio level. In any case, you could write this yourself; > changing the volume is merely a matter of reading in the sample values and > multiplying them by a factor; 1.0 for no change, < 1.0 for quieter, > 1.0 > for louder (but don't do this because you'll get distortion). > > You could write this as a standard program reading from stdin and writing > to stdout and thus create a pipeline : > > mpg123 to stdout | volume from stdin to stdout > /dev/dsp > > do this for every file you want to play. > > Anyway, I'm currently writing something like this based on the gstreamer > platform (gstreamer.net); it should do all of this and a bit more, since > gstreamer can have various types of input (you could basically mix an mp3 > with an ogg and an MPEG-2-video audio stream) and types of output > (icecast, disk, sound out, ...). > > thomas > > <-*- -*-> > There's a world outside > And I know cause I've heard talk > In my sweetest dreams > I would go out for a walk > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jase at rmit.edu.au Fri May 11 04:26:12 2001 From: jase at rmit.edu.au (Jason Parlevliet) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:26:12 +1000 Subject: [icecast] I can run??? Message-ID: Hello I'm using icecast 1.3.10, and streamcast-0.8 I started it with nohup icecast & and it was happy for a while then the stream dropped out. I looked in nohup.out, and there was about 500 lines that just said "You can run, but you can't hide!" After I changed my underwear, I looked through the source to verify that the message was coming out of Icecast and not the RIAA or something - but I couldn't glean any more information than that. Can anyone tell me why I got this message? TIA Jase --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From plastic at m-net.arbornet.org Fri May 11 17:30:33 2001 From: plastic at m-net.arbornet.org (john) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:30:33 -0400 Subject: [icecast] I can run??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010511132942.02014630@pop.oh.verio.com> At 02:26 PM 5/11/01 +1000, you wrote: >Hello > >I'm using icecast 1.3.10, and streamcast-0.8 > >I started it with nohup icecast & and it was happy for a while then the >stream dropped out. I looked in nohup.out, and there was about 500 lines >that just said "You can run, but you can't hide!" > >After I changed my underwear, I looked through the source to verify that >the message was coming out of Icecast and not the RIAA or something - but >I couldn't glean any more information than that. Can anyone tell me why I >got this message? Who knows. Have you tried running icecast and using lsof to see what files that it has open.. perhaps that will lend some more information as to what is going on here. ja. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ks_touray at fanafana.com Fri May 11 20:42:50 2001 From: ks_touray at fanafana.com (Katim S. Touray) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:42:50 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Thanks! Message-ID: <3AFC4ECA.BD852F29@fanafana.com> Hi there, I just wanted to say "Thanks" to all of you for your suggestions and answers in response to my posting about having multiple sources on one Icecast server. Frankly, I was rather flabbergasted by how helpful you were! Again, thanks a lot, and best wishes. Katim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jase at rmit.edu.au Tue May 15 05:41:40 2001 From: jase at rmit.edu.au (Jason Parlevliet) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:41:40 +1000 Subject: [icecast] you can run error Message-ID: Hi Again I never worked out why I was getting that "You can run" error, but I set streamcast to reencode everything (previously it was playing songs at whatever bitrate they came at) and it's played for a day and a half now without an error. It's a workaround, but it worked Jase --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hologram007 at hotmail.com Wed May 16 04:34:54 2001 From: hologram007 at hotmail.com (Bryan Miles) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:34:54 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices Message-ID: Has anyone gotten lame and Ices to compile and run on redhat7.1? Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kevin at kevinsearle.com Wed May 16 10:48:45 2001 From: kevin at kevinsearle.com (Kevin Searle) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:48:45 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01051605484500.05449@tanelorn> Yes - flawlessly. What's happening? On Tuesday 15 May 2001 11:34 pm, you wrote: > Has anyone gotten lame and Ices to compile and run on redhat7.1? > > Bryan > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gabriel at star.co.za Wed May 16 21:16:59 2001 From: gabriel at star.co.za (Gabriel Fortuna) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:16:59 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Question about shout Message-ID: <0105161716590A.15916@coldblood.argus.co.za> Hi All New to icecast, shout, and the list. Is it possible to get shout to play to the soundcards output AND broadcast to an icecast server? -- Gabriel Fortuna Independent Newspapers Information Technology - Projects & Networking Division T - +27 11 633 2833 F - +27 11 838 2528 IN MY OPINION anyone interested in improving himself should not rule out becoming pure energy. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ricard at libertysurf.fr Wed May 16 15:43:01 2001 From: ricard at libertysurf.fr (ricard at libertysurf.fr) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:43:01 +0100 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio Message-ID: Hi. I want to broadcast FM radio. Can i pass data directly from my radio card to livecast and finally to my server, or must i pass data in the sound card after the radio card and before liveice? Thanks in advance, Bertrand. -------------- Jusqu'? 60 heures gratuites pour toute souscription ? l'un des nouveaux Forfaits Liberty Surf http://register.libertysurf.fr/subscribe_fr/signup.php3 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Wed May 16 15:55:46 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:55:46 -0700 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010516085546.E4984@lns.com> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:43:01PM +0100, ricard at libertysurf.fr wrote: > I want to broadcast FM radio. > Can i pass data directly from my radio card to livecast > and finally to my server, or must i pass data in the sound > card after the radio card and before liveice? I guess I don't understand what you are trying to do. Are you trying to stream an existing FM station over shoutcast? Assuming you are running a UNIX-like OS like *BSD or Linux, that is pretty easy with an FM card like the Hauppauge TV/FM card driving the analog input of a sound card like a Sound Blaster. At that point taking the /dev/dsp PCM audio and shoving it into something like my MIXICE perl script (http://www.lns.com/papers/mixice) or Liveice (http://star.arm.ac.uk/~spm/software/liveice.html) program will do the trick. If you want to FM broadcast a stream, then get your self a FM transmitter kit like the Ramsey (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com) FM10A transmitter kit and have the audio card drive it. Tim -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Wed May 16 16:18:39 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:18:39 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. Message-ID: <200105161629.f4GGTEl17351@alternic.org> It looks like we have things running and just have a few questions: 1- What MIME type and extentsion do we need to open a player through Apache, currently what happens is that it attempts to download the entire folder containing the mp3's instead of opening up the player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to be heard before they pick up the broadcast. 3- Everything had a password of "hackme" and we found one that says "prettyplease." What is this for? OS is Red Hat 7.0 Icecast 1.3.10 Ices 0.0.1.beta5 Any help would be great!! Thanks! AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kevin at kevinsearle.com Wed May 16 16:29:21 2001 From: kevin at kevinsearle.com (Kevin Searle) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:29:21 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <200105161629.f4GGTEl17351@alternic.org> Message-ID: <01051611292100.04953@localhost.localdomain> > 3- Everything had a password of "hackme" and > we found one that says "prettyplease." What > is this for? This means that you should change them. They're just the default passwords - and like any default password, they should be changed ASAP. Kevin --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Wed May 16 16:36:55 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:36:55 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Tweaking Questions.> Message-ID: <200105161647.f4GGlVl17413@alternic.org> 5/16/01 12:29 PM kevin at kevinsearle.com Kevin: >This means that you should change them. They're just the default passwords - >and like any default password, they should be changed ASAP. The reason for asking is that everything else had "hackme" as a pw and "prettyplease" raised a question because we thought it may be a part of something else (ie. ices) and curious if we missed something in the setting up process. Passwords have been changed, of course. AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kevin at kevinsearle.com Wed May 16 16:45:08 2001 From: kevin at kevinsearle.com (Kevin Searle) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:45:08 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <200105161647.f4GGlVl17413@alternic.org> Message-ID: <01051611450801.04953@asteroids.peranet.com> > The reason for asking is that everything else had "hackme" as a pw > and "prettyplease" raised a question because we thought it may be > a part of something else (ie. ices) and curious if we missed something > in the setting up process. There are three different passwords - one for the admin, one for the oper, and one for the source. I think (going by memory) that 'hackme' was the default admin and 'prettyplease' was the default oper passwords. Kevin --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Wed May 16 09:40:34 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 01:40:54 +0100 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio In-Reply-To: <20010516085546.E4984@lns.com> Message-ID: <19560828014054.A1416@dyne.org> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:55:46AM -0700, Tim Pozar wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:43:01PM +0100, ricard at libertysurf.fr wrote: > > I want to broadcast FM radio. > > Can i pass data directly from my radio card to livecast > > and finally to my server, or must i pass data in the sound > > card after the radio card and before liveice? > > I guess I don't understand what you are trying to do. Are you > trying to stream an existing FM station over shoutcast? Assuming > you are running a UNIX-like OS like *BSD or Linux, that is pretty > easy with an FM card like the Hauppauge TV/FM card driving the > analog input of a sound card like a Sound Blaster. At that point > taking the /dev/dsp PCM audio and shoving it into something like > my MIXICE perl script (http://www.lns.com/papers/mixice) or Liveice > (http://star.arm.ac.uk/~spm/software/liveice.html) program will do > the trick. i guess he wanted to ask if it's really needed to use a cable to bring the fm-card audio into the soundcard linein, or it can be done internally thru buffers. if that was the question the answer is you can do it internally, theoretically: there are two different dsp devices for the fm-tuner audio and for the souncard, you could move the sound internally while keeping free the line-in of your soundcard (and eventually mix something from it). i said theoretically because there's no software that does it, alltough a slick code would do the job. btw i find it a nice feature, i guess i'll include it in future into MuSE (http://muse.dyne.org), which you can also use in the way Tim described, just like liveice and mixice. > If you want to FM broadcast a stream, then get your self a FM > transmitter kit like the Ramsey (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com) > FM10A transmitter kit and have the audio card drive it. well, just to add some interesting link to the discussion, there's a nice experiment done with a shortwave receivers, have a look on http://www.radio.rai.it/webradio (it uses realaudio but the guy told me it's going to switch to icecast soon) greets -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Wed May 16 11:16:13 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:16:13 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010516041613.B11679@tk421> > Has anyone gotten lame and Ices to compile and run on redhat7.1? This is a question that comes up about once every two weeks. Please search the list archives (http://www.xiph.org/archive/) before you ask questions (note, this is a friendly reminder to all). The latest beta versions of lame are incompatible with ices. If you use the last official release, or anything up to about 3.77beta I think you'll get it to work pretty well. Anything newer is likely not to work, although if you know a bit of C, the changes needed to make it work are probably trivial. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Wed May 16 19:34:04 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:34:04 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Tweaking Questions.> Message-ID: <200105161944.f4GJiel18277@alternic.org> 5/16/01 12:45 PM kevin at kevinsearle.com Kevin: >> The reason for asking is that everything else had "hackme" as a pw >> and "prettyplease" raised a question because we thought it may be >> a part of something else (ie. ices) and curious if we missed something >> in the setting up process. > >There are three different passwords - one for the admin, one for the oper, >and one for the source. I think (going by memory) that 'hackme' was the >default admin and 'prettyplease' was the default oper passwords. Thanks for the clarification on that. Any idea on my 2 other questions? 1- What MIME type and extentsion do we need to open a player through Apache, currently what happens is that it attempts to download the entire folder containing the mp3's instead of opening up the player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to be heard before they pick up the broadcast. Server info: OS is Red Hat 7.0 Icecast 1.3.10 Ices 0.0.1.beta5 Thanks again! AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hologram007 at hotmail.com Wed May 16 19:40:58 2001 From: hologram007 at hotmail.com (Bryan Miles) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:40:58 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Lame and ices> Message-ID: Well I have the following rpms installed lame-3.88-beta-1 lame-devel-3.88-beta-1 lame.h has been put in /usr/includes libmp3lame is in /usr/lib/ when I got to configure ices 0.5 with lame and setting the directories above It say it can't find decode_lame and doesn't add support for it. I have also tried to compikle lame from source with libsndfile and it complains about finding that. libsndfile is there. You wouldn't happened to have a rpm for lame that works on 7.1 woudl you? Thank you Bryan >From: Kevin Searle >Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org >To: icecast at xiph.org >Subject: Re: [icecast] Lame and ices >Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:48:45 -0500 > >Yes - flawlessly. What's happening? > >On Tuesday 15 May 2001 11:34 pm, you wrote: > > Has anyone gotten lame and Ices to compile and run on redhat7.1? > > > > Bryan > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kevin at kevinsearle.com Wed May 16 19:49:58 2001 From: kevin at kevinsearle.com (Kevin Searle) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:49:58 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <200105161944.f4GJiel18277@alternic.org> Message-ID: <01051614495800.05431@asteroids.peranet.com> On Wednesday 16 May 2001 14:34, you wrote: > 1- What MIME type and extentsion do we need to > open a player through Apache, currently what happens > is that it attempts to download the entire folder > containing the mp3's instead of opening up the > player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). Instead of having link to http://www.xxx.com:8000, you need to have a link to a file on the webserver such as: http://www.xxx.com/playlist.m3u In the playlist.m3u file, place the text http://www.xxx.com:8000 > 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it > just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to > be heard before they pick up the broadcast. Create a file on the icecast/ices server - call it anything like playlist.txt or something. In the command-line for ices, use the -F switch to specifiy the location relative to where the command is excuted. Alternatively, this can also be specified in the ices configuration file. Look for the element . Rewrite it as playlist.txt. Hope this helps. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Wed May 16 20:05:04 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <01051614495800.05431@asteroids.peranet.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Kevin Searle wrote: > On Wednesday 16 May 2001 14:34, you wrote: > > 1- What MIME type and extentsion do we need to > > open a player through Apache, currently what happens > > is that it attempts to download the entire folder > > containing the mp3's instead of opening up the > > player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). > > Instead of having link to http://www.xxx.com:8000, you need to have a link to > a file on the webserver such as: http://www.xxx.com/playlist.m3u Then in Apache have an AddType directive audio/x-mpegurl .m3u which have Apache send out the proper mime type. > > In the playlist.m3u file, place the text http://www.xxx.com:8000 > > > 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it > > just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to > > be heard before they pick up the broadcast. > > Create a file on the icecast/ices server - call it anything like playlist.txt > or something. In the command-line for ices, use the -F switch to specifiy > the location relative to where the command is excuted. Alternatively, this > can also be specified in the ices configuration file. Look for the element > . Rewrite it as playlist.txt. Another way is to place a static-file promo as the first file in the .m3u file too. So that your .m3u file will look something like this: http://www.xxx.com/promos/MyPromo.mp3 http://www.xxx.com:8000/MyStreamMountpoint There is some discussion in the list archive too I think. Search for .pls and .m3u (.pls are simular to .m3u's) good luck Harvey > > Hope this helps. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Wed May 16 20:09:07 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. correction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Opps, it should be like so: Then in Apache have an AddType directive AddType audio/x-mpegurl .m3u which have Apache send out the proper mime type. Harvey --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hologram007 at hotmail.com Thu May 17 00:47:07 2001 From: hologram007 at hotmail.com (Bryan Miles) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:47:07 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Lame and ices> Message-ID: I apologize, I didn't get to the message about the archive. While on the archive, I don't think the search function works. I entered lame and checked use whole word. It gave a blank for the number of messages search and said 0 found. I did a manual search and found my answers I think. I must have compiled lame 3.7 on the old machine before I did the upgrade. The 3.88 rpms were in my download director I archived so I thought I had used them. When I get my system back online I'll give it a try with 3.7 Thanx Bryan >From: "Bryan Miles" >Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org >To: icecast at xiph.org >Subject: Re: [icecast] Lame and ices >Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:40:58 -0700 > > >Well I have the following rpms installed >lame-3.88-beta-1 >lame-devel-3.88-beta-1 >lame.h has been put in /usr/includes >libmp3lame is in /usr/lib/ >when I got to configure ices 0.5 with lame and setting the directories >above >It say it can't find decode_lame and doesn't add support for it. >I have also tried to compikle lame from source with libsndfile and it >complains about finding that. libsndfile is there. >You wouldn't happened to have a rpm for lame that works on 7.1 woudl you? >Thank you > >Bryan > >>From: Kevin Searle >>Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org >>To: icecast at xiph.org >>Subject: Re: [icecast] Lame and ices >>Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:48:45 -0500 >> >>Yes - flawlessly. What's happening? >> >>On Tuesday 15 May 2001 11:34 pm, you wrote: >> > Has anyone gotten lame and Ices to compile and run on redhat7.1? >> > >> > Bryan >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >> > >> > --- >8 ---- >> > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is >>needed. >> > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >> >>--- >8 ---- >>List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >>icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>'icecast-request at xiph.org' >>containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >>Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu May 17 03:07:28 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:07:28 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: <200105161944.f4GJiel18277@alternic.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 May 2001, AJones! wrote: > 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it > just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to > be heard before they pick up the broadcast. So what you want is a file or files to play before the listener connects to the stream from the icecast server? I don't think that icecast does this internally like the shoutcast server can do, however it's easy to do in the same way as mentioned with the M3U file. Before the http://www.xxx.com:8000 line, put in a URL giving the location of the file or files you wish to play (e.g.: http://www.xxx.com/promospromo1.mp3 http://www.xxx.com/promos/promo2.mp3 http://www.xxx.com:8000 This will have the player play the 2 static files first, then connect to the server. Note that the promo file(s) MUST be in the exact same data format as the stream coming from the icecast server otherwise the player will choke on the new audio format. There may be other ways to do this. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu May 17 03:00:38 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:00:38 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Lame and ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi: IIRC, it's only LAME 3.88 that causes problems - 3.87 is OK. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From john at capmon.com Thu May 17 16:14:57 2001 From: john at capmon.com (John Griffiths) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:14:57 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Tweaking Questions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010517161457.00e35780@mailhost.capmon.com> > >> 2- How can you create a playlist? Currently it >> just plays the mp3's and we'd like for promos to >> be heard before they pick up the broadcast. why not put the promo's in as mp3's? as for making playlist ls *.mp3 > playlist.txt will make a playlist of all the mp's in a directory on a unix box --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ricard at libertysurf.fr Thu May 17 08:46:35 2001 From: ricard at libertysurf.fr (ricard at libertysurf.fr) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:46:35 +0100 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio In-Reply-To: <[icecast] broadcast FM radio> Message-ID: Thanks for your answers Tim and Jaromil, there were useful for my work. But you don't understand what i really mean (sorry for my english). Here is exactly what i want to do: I want to install on my PC (OS Linux) 2 or more FM-tuners. These tuners will get existing FM stations programs. Then, i want to broadcast these programs at the same time on internet with 2 or more softwares' combination liveice/icecast or liveice/shoutcast. In my opinion, the only solution to do that is to take the dsp devices of the FM-tuners and shoving them into liveice directly (no use of the dsp device of the soundcard). Is it possible? And if it is, could you help me to do that? Thanks, Bertrand. -------------- Jusqu'? 60 heures gratuites pour toute souscription ? l'un des nouveaux Forfaits Liberty Surf http://register.libertysurf.fr/subscribe_fr/signup.php3 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From graemec at telstra.net Thu May 17 09:29:21 2001 From: graemec at telstra.net (Graeme Christie) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:29:21 +0800 Subject: [icecast] Transparent Proxy -Does it work ? Message-ID: <3B0399F1.4050309@telstra.net> I've been trying to get the transparent proxying facility of icecast to work so I can listen to multiple copies of stream on my local network, while only receiving a single stream over my WAN link (Like DUH! thats what the proxy is for ... I know, stay with me). I have mpt been been able to get this feature to work, and it looks like there may be a bug in the icecast server as everytime I try to connect to icecast as a proxy it becomes really unstable and locks up whenever I try to execute alot of commannds from the console (like sources, listeners) or shutdown. Whenever I try to connect with winamp configured with my icecast server as proxy - the first time the proxy -> goes of and gets the stream eg. -> [17/May/2001:20:02:15] Accepted encoder on mountpoint 205.188.234.34:8002/ from lsac1-0-s02.shoutcast.net. 1 sources connecte But the stream doesn't get transferred to winamp. if I try to connect again icecast keeps spawning more connection handler threads but I can get no streams from it and it becomes unstable as descibed above, eg here the output of threads after attempting 5 connections to the icecast proxy from Winamp. > threads Listing threads (might take a short while) 0 Type: [ Main Thread] Started [File: main.c Line: 144] Stuck: no Started: 17/May/2001:19:41:38 1 Type: [ Admin Console Thread] Started [File: admin.c Line: 424] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:19:41:38 2 Type: [ Calendar Thread] Started [File: main.c Line: 641] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:19:41:38 3 Type: [ UDP Handler Thread] Started [File: main.c Line: 653] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:19:41:38 4 Type: [ Relay Connector Thread] Started [File: main.c Line: 658] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:19:41:38 11 Type: [ Connection Handler] Started [File: main.c Line: 667] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:20:02:11 12 Type: [ Connection Handler] Started [File: main.c Line: 667] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:20:02:32 13 Type: [ Connection Handler] Started [File: main.c Line: 667] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:20:02:41 14 Type: [ Connection Handler] Started [File: main.c Line: 667] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:20:02:47 15 Type: [ Connection Handler] Started [File: main.c Line: 667] Stuck: yes Started: 17/May/2001:20:02:50 End of threads listing (10 listed) I have tested this on my Redhat linux (i386) 7.0 server with 2.4.x kernel at home, and my Redhat linux 7.0 with standard 2.2.16-22 kernal at work with the same problems. I beleive I have setup the configuration file correctly, setting transparent_proxy to 1 and configuring the server_name directive to a valid DNS hostname on my home machine, and a valid static IP on my work machine. I am using icecast 1.3.10, have tried both the rpm's, compiling from the source distribution and compiling the latest cvs code with the same results. I use Winamp for windows (latest 2.x ver) to test the proxy functionality. I have tried Freeamp for linux for testing, but can't get icecast to respond at all when using the proxy feature. I can't find any proxy setting on xmms to use that for testing. If anyone has got the transparent proxy feature work, I would love to know about it, and if you could send your configuration file to me (and maybe the plaform/setup info) at graeme at gloptum.com I would greatly appreciate it. Otherwise any other info would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Graeme -- Graeme Christie Internetworking Specialist Telstra Big Pond Direct 1800 066 594 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Thu May 17 13:39:51 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:39:51 -0400 Subject: [icecast] log analyzers Message-ID: <3B03D4A7.3D25179E@gactr.uga.edu> could someone please point me to a good icecast log analysis tool? i'm looking for something that generates html based on client IPs and their connect times. thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alfredo at nexus.org Thu May 17 13:49:09 2001 From: alfredo at nexus.org (Alfredo E. Cotroneo) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:09 +0200 Subject: [icecast] log analyzers In-Reply-To: <3B03D4A7.3D25179E@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010517154352.034f9c30@mail2.nexus.org> At 09:39 17/05/2001 -0400, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: >could someone please point me to a good icecast log >analysis tool? i'm looking for something that generates >html based on client IPs and their connect times. Webalizer http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ works fine also for icecast's logs. Alfredo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Fri May 18 23:05:28 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:05:28 -0400 Subject: [icecast] A Few More Tweaking Question. Message-ID: <200105182316.f4INGUl26291@alternic.org> 1- What MIME type and extension do we need to open a player, currently what happens is that it attempts to download the entire folder containing the mp3's instead of opening up the player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). Originally I asked about how to do this on an Apache server but our SA didn't hook it up to the Apache and it is running as just Icecast. Right now if you drop http://www.xxx.com:8000 into WinAmp, SoundJam and RealPlayer it plays great! 2- How can you hide the web pages that IceCast creates from the public? Right now when you put in http://www.xxx.com:8000/admin it gives access to anyone. Any thoughts? If anyone could shed light on the above, that would be great! AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tygris at cablespeed.com Fri May 18 23:41:55 2001 From: tygris at cablespeed.com (Kelly `STrRedWolf` Price) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:41:55 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Question about shout In-Reply-To: <0105161716590A.15916@coldblood.argus.co.za> Message-ID: <3B05B343.C8714BE0@cablespeed.com> Gabriel Fortuna wrote: > New to icecast, shout, and the list. > > Is it possible to get shout to play to the soundcards output AND broadcast > to an icecast server? > I doubt it, but here's what I do to get close. I'm rebroadcasting Wolfox Radio while downsampling and listening. Just so I don't overflow my bandwidth, I run icecast locally and relay the Live365 server. From there, I have XMMS pull from local, and from there, I run the script from here: http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=66521 Someone want a shouter written in Perl? -- " .' .' ";# Kelly "STrRedWolf" Price -- WolfSkunk Designs ' xX xX .' ; # http://stalag99.keenspace.com ' "X "X X .' ; # tygris at cablespeed dot com ' _____. X" X ';# NO UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL ACCEPTED ' XXXXXXXx. X" .' && 0; '"XXXXXX| X '&& 0; "XXX| X" && 0; 'XX' && 0; # This perl .sig under construction... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Sat May 19 12:02:55 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (smoerk at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 14:02:55 +0200 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010519110609.2773118D004@motherfish.xiph.org> On Thu, 17 May 2001 09:46:35 +0100, ricard at libertysurf.fr wrote: >In my opinion, the only solution to do that is to take the >dsp devices of the FM-tuners and shoving them into liveice >directly (no use of the dsp device of the soundcard). >Is it possible? are you sure that your radio card has a dsp? fm radio is analog, all the cards i know have only a analog audio (and video) output which could be connected with the soundcard's input. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jase at rmit.edu.au Sat May 19 13:07:24 2001 From: jase at rmit.edu.au (Jason Parlevliet) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:07:24 +1000 Subject: [icecast] A Few More Tweaking Question. In-Reply-To: <200105182316.f4INGUl26291@alternic.org> Message-ID: <3B06700C.BE000102@rmit.edu.au> Hi AJ I don't have the docs handy, but if I recall correctly, you can set up user and password authentication using the mounts.aut and groups.aut files, and allow certain permissions to certain groups - just restrict access to the /admin and /oper mounts. If that doesn't work, you can restrict by domain name in the icecast.conf file, right at the bottom - make sure you have a 'deny admin *' rule to stop anyone else, then have a rule to 'allow admin your.domain.name' This stuff is in either the README/INSTALL files, or in the comment lines of the appropriate files HTH Jase "AJones!" wrote: > > 1- What MIME type and extension do we need to > open a player, currently what happens > is that it attempts to download the entire folder > containing the mp3's instead of opening up the > player (this happens at http://www.xxx.com:8000). > > Originally I asked about how to do this on an Apache server > but our SA didn't hook it up to the Apache and it is > running as just Icecast. > > Right now if you drop http://www.xxx.com:8000 into > WinAmp, SoundJam and RealPlayer it plays great! > > 2- How can you hide the web pages that IceCast creates > from the public? Right now when you put in > http://www.xxx.com:8000/admin it gives > access to anyone. Any thoughts? > > If anyone could shed light on the above, that would be great! > > AJ > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Sat May 19 16:02:22 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:02:22 -0700 Subject: [icecast] broadcast FM radio In-Reply-To: <20010519110609.2773118D004@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: <01a801c0e07d$16c02980$6800000a@billnew> The radio cards are indeed analog devices. The audio never exists in digital form on the card, so there's no way to do this other than to connect the card's output to the input of a sound card. --- Bill Goldsmith www.kpig.com www.radioparadise.com > >In my opinion, the only solution to do that is to take the > >dsp devices of the FM-tuners and shoving them into liveice > >directly (no use of the dsp device of the soundcard). > >Is it possible? > > are you sure that your radio card has a dsp? fm radio is analog, all > the cards i know have only a analog audio (and video) output which > could be connected with the soundcard's input. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Mon May 21 19:48:04 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Walls) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:48:04 -0500 Subject: [icecast] specify mountpoint by source IP? In-Reply-To: <000f01c0c610$54ca62e0$1276a8c0@ruckus> Message-ID: I have several Macs encoding streams using MacAmp. I'd like to stream them all to my icecast server, but if I do that they are all assigned mountpoints depending on the order that they connect (ie. /icy_0, /icy_1, /icy_2). This means that if power glitches and my systems reboot, they streams will all reconnect in a more or less random manner. Is there any way to trick icecast into assigning a particular mountpoint to a stream from a particular IP address? Currently I'm running a shoutcast server for each stream, and then aliasing the shoutcast stream from icecast. Obviously a hassle. I don't know of any streaming client for the Mac that will allow me to specify the mountpoint. -- Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (256)544-3311voice,544-7128fax http://science.nasa.gov http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk Wed May 23 14:27:44 2001 From: matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk (toad) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:27:44 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN Message-ID: <20010523152744.B23372@cableinet.co.uk> I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? -- Always hardwire the explosives -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at arkena.com Wed May 23 18:56:14 2001 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:56:14 +0200 Subject: [icecast] problems with icecast2 Message-ID: <20010523205614.A19962@mmstreaming.dk> Hey Jack Vakor I dont know if this is a icecast or ices releated probelm. For the past couple of days ive been streaming Ogg Vorbis on our internal network. Today i tried to move the icecast2 server to one of our external servers and it went up find (after i installed the proper libs ;-) Anyway i pointed ices towards the server and got the following error every time it tried to connect to the server : [2001-05-23 18:40:38] INFO ices-core/main ices started... [2001-05-23 18:40:38] INFO playlist-builtin/playlist_read Currently playing /mnt/home1/users/albums/dj_dave_seaman_renaissance_desire_cd1/track03.cdda.ogg [2001-05-23 18:40:38] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial connect to 193.162.142.181:8000 (Couldn't connect) [2001-05-23 18:40:38] DBUG input/input_loop An instance died, removing it [2001-05-23 18:40:38] DBUG input/input_flush_queue Input queue flush requested [2001-05-23 18:40:39] DBUG input/input_loop All instances removed, shutting down control thread. [2001-05-23 18:40:39] INFO ices-core/main Shutdown complete I cant telnet to port 8000 on the server either so i dont know what can be wrong? Please help since i would like to stream Ogg Vorbis to my friend scott ;-) -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk ARKENA thomas at arkena.com http://www.arkena.com Some of you ... may have decided that, this year, you're going to celebrate it the old-fashioned way, with your family sitting around stringing cranberries and exchanging humble, handmade gifts, like on "The Waltons". Well, you can forget it. If everybody pulled that kind of subversive stunt, the economy would collapse overnight. The government would have to intervene: it would form a cabinet-level Department of Holiday Gift-Giving, which would spend billions and billions of tax dollars to buy Barbie dolls and electronic games, which it would drop on the populace from Air Force jets, killing and maiming thousands. So, for the good of the nation, you should go along with the Holiday Program. This means you should get a large sum of money and go to a mall. -- Dave Barry, "Christmas Shopping: A Survivor's Guide" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu May 24 01:52:04 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:52:04 +1000 Subject: [icecast] problems with icecast2 In-Reply-To: <20010523205614.A19962@mmstreaming.dk> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010524115204.4279e2e0@mail.labyrinth.net.au> >[2001-05-23 18:40:38] EROR stream/ices_instance_stream Failed initial connect to 193.162.142.181:8000 (Couldn't connect) >I cant telnet to port 8000 on the server either so i dont know what >can be wrong? Please help since i would like to stream Ogg Vorbis to >my friend scott ;-) This just means that you cannot connect to the server. There's probably some sort of firewall in the way. It's not a problem with ices or icecast. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tygris at cablespeed.com Fri May 25 02:55:38 2001 From: tygris at cablespeed.com (Kelly `STrRedWolf` Price) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:55:38 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <20010523152744.B23372@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3B0DC9AA.112A4B91@cablespeed.com> toad wrote: > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? You're probably hitting up against a limitation of the OS with that big of a file that fast. Drop down the kbps (190kbps should be more than enough), and it should stream ok. -- " .' .' ";# Kelly "STrRedWolf" Price -- WolfSkunk Designs ' xX xX .' ; # http://stalag99.keenspace.com ' "X "X X .' ; # tygris at cablespeed dot com ' _____. X" X ';# NO UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL ACCEPTED ' XXXXXXXx. X" .' && 0; '"XXXXXX| X '&& 0; "XXX| X" && 0; 'XX' && 0; # This perl .sig under construction... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Fri May 25 08:43:33 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:43:33 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <20010523152744.B23372@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010525104333.B8677@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> HI, ounds like my problem discussed her two or three weeks ago. Add "sleep_ratio 0" to your icecast.conf. regards Martin -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:27:44PM +0100, toad wrote: > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? > -- > Always hardwire the explosives > -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk Fri May 25 20:31:09 2001 From: matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk (toad) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:31:09 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <3B0DC9AA.112A4B91@cablespeed.com> Message-ID: <20010525213109.A21661@cableinet.co.uk> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:55:38PM -0400, Kelly `STrRedWolf` Price wrote: > toad wrote: > > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? > > You're probably hitting up against a limitation of the OS with that big > of a file that fast. Drop down the kbps (190kbps should be more than > enough), and it should stream ok. Single client. They play fine locally. And linux's network performance is *not* that bad. > > -- > " .' .' ";# Kelly "STrRedWolf" Price -- WolfSkunk Designs > ' xX xX .' ; # http://stalag99.keenspace.com > ' "X "X X .' ; # tygris at cablespeed dot com > ' _____. X" X ';# NO UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL ACCEPTED > ' XXXXXXXx. X" .' && 0; > '"XXXXXX| X '&& 0; > "XXX| X" && 0; > 'XX' && 0; # This perl .sig under construction... > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Always hardwire the explosives -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk Fri May 25 20:44:28 2001 From: matthew at toseland.f9.co.uk (toad) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:44:28 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <20010525104333.B8677@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <20010525214428.A22241@cableinet.co.uk> On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:43:33AM +0200, Martin Hierling wrote: > HI, > > sounds like my problem discussed her two or three weeks ago. > Add "sleep_ratio 0" to your icecast.conf. > > regards Martin Thank you very muchly. It works now. Any idea how to synchronize 2 players on the same stream? End up with ~ 1 s phase difference. NAS might be more appropriate... (don't say "use a friggin wire", please, I have thought of that :). > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > /"\ > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML Mail > / \ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de > - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:27:44PM +0100, toad wrote: > > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? -- Always hardwire the explosives -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mad at cc.fh-lippe.de Mon May 28 07:37:00 2001 From: mad at cc.fh-lippe.de (Martin Hierling) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:37:00 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <20010525214428.A22241@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010528093700.A10713@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Hi, On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:44:28PM +0100, toad wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:43:33AM +0200, Martin Hierling wrote: > > HI, > > > > sounds like my problem discussed her two or three weeks ago. > > Add "sleep_ratio 0" to your icecast.conf. > > > > regards Martin > Thank you very muchly. It works now. Any idea how to synchronize 2 players on > the same stream? End up with ~ 1 s phase difference. NAS might be more > appropriate... (don't say "use a friggin wire", please, I have thought of that No way. I read a discussion about that a while ago, with the result that it is not possible. Because of buffering, no time sync between clients etc. greetings Martin > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > /"\ > > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > > X Against HTML Mail > > / \ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de > > - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:27:44PM +0100, toad wrote: > > > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > > > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > > > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > > > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? > -- > Always hardwire the explosives > -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From k_myers at kyxpyx.com Mon May 28 09:36:43 2001 From: k_myers at kyxpyx.com (Kelly Lee Myers) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:36:43 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN In-Reply-To: <20010528093700.A10713@sulu.cc.fh-lippe.de> Message-ID: <000701c0e759$b4fa44e0$a0727118@lithium> Actually, there may be a way to do it. try this. fire up icecast, and then connect your clients. Then, once the clients are connected, start streaming data to the server using ices or shout or whatever. Once data comes into the buffer of the server, it should start feeding any clients connected to it starting from the first data chunk the server gets from the source. It is not going to be "dead on" but it will come close to maybe under 3 seconds difference depending on where the clients are connecting from (if its over a LAN this may work nicely) but if it is separate network connections, well, you are going to have to take your chances. Now if there was timecode (SMTPE) embedded into the metadata of the stream, you could probably get something going client side to match things up. Thoughts?? Lithium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Hierling" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] Problems streaming high bitrate over a LAN > Hi, > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:44:28PM +0100, toad wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:43:33AM +0200, Martin Hierling wrote: > > > HI, > > > > > > sounds like my problem discussed her two or three weeks ago. > > > Add "sleep_ratio 0" to your icecast.conf. > > > > > > regards Martin > > Thank you very muchly. It works now. Any idea how to synchronize 2 players on > > the same stream? End up with ~ 1 s phase difference. NAS might be more > > appropriate... (don't say "use a friggin wire", please, I have thought of that > > No way. I read a discussion about that a while ago, with the result that it > is not possible. Because of buffering, no time sync between clients etc. > > greetings Martin > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > /"\ > > > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > > > X Against HTML Mail > > > / \ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de > > > - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:27:44PM +0100, toad wrote: > > > > I am trying to stream various 320kbps MP3s across my 10Mbps LAN. Either locally > > > > or across the network, freeamp and xmms prefetch a chunk, then play it, then > > > > fetch another chunk etc. No continuous streaming. shout gets a lot of !s between > > > > its "."s when sending the file to icecast. Any ideas? > > -- > > Always hardwire the explosives > > -- Fiona Dexter quoting Monkey, J. Gregory Keyes, Dark Genesis > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > /"\ > \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML Mail > / \ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - Martin Hierling - www.hierling.de > - mailto: `echo maNdO at ccS.fh-PlipApeM.de | sed 's/[NOSPAM]//g'` > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From scott at john.ikansas.com Tue May 29 11:09:03 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (scott at john.ikansas.com) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:09:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] INCREDIBLE MEGA EXPERIENCE! In-Reply-To: <20010528124234.9B28918D041@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: Nice, Statistics show that 3 out of the 4 lists I am subscribed to, 50% of them suffer from spam. 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No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jase at rmit.edu.au Tue May 29 13:15:00 2001 From: jase at rmit.edu.au (Jason Parlevliet) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:15:00 +1000 Subject: [icecast] INCREDIBLE MEGA EXPERIENCE! In-Reply-To: <[icecast] INCREDIBLE MEGA EXPERIENCE!> Message-ID: Hehe, yeah, and the pr0n wasn't even that good :) I'm on one mailing list that has died and has no traffic except spam. Problem is it's not majordomo and I can'r get a response from anyone human to unsubscribe me :( Jase >>> scott at john.ikansas.com 05/29/01 21:10 PM >>> Nice, Statistics show that 3 out of the 4 lists I am subscribed to, 50% of them suffer from spam. Scott On Mon, 28 May 2001, POWERWEB-TV wrote: > Ladies & Gentlemen, > > Are you ready to the experience of a lifetime ? > > As affiliates of the CIL group, we offer you to PLUGIN to the largest SEX-SERVER on the WEB, in order to get more than 3000 MegaBytes of the best and most sensational SEX on the entire Web! > > Why on earth do you think that thousands of people from 13 countries daily choose to visit 2 particular WebSites ? > > Very EASY answer! > > - The largest and most incredible content of LIVE SEX is offered! > - State-of-the-art LIVE SHOWS with the wildest and most horny amateurs and pornstars in the world! > - Hardcore LIVE SEX that hasn*t crossed your imagination! > - Incredible & amazing themes from soft sex to the most bizarre sex! > - Beautiful Girls & wild studs from almost every country, allowing you to watch, see & chat with awsome amateurs & pornstars who are blond, who are black, who are Scandinavian, who are Asian, who have BIG tits, who are shaved, who are pregnant who are .... you just name it ! > - The best ever made SPY-CAMS, WATCH-CAMS, POOL-CAMS, SHOWER-CAMS, AMATEUR-CAMS ... etc! > - Several high quality Interactive Cams & LIVE SEX Chat, where you are in controle ! > - Much much more ... too much to mention ! > > EVERYTHING is offered 100% ANONOMOUSLY & you don*t need to sign-up or have a creditcard ... How simple s that ? > > PLUGIN now to our MEGA SEX-SERVER through any of the 2 AwardWinning Sites listed below, and get instantly access to more than 3000 MegaBytes of State-of-the-art WebSex! > > RIGHT HERE AT: > > http://siam.to/affiliate93 > > > Or this one, if you just love true LESBIAN SEX, CHAT and MORE from Sunny Ibiza in Spain: > > http://siam.to/affiliate69 > > > Enjoy your trip to paradise! > > > > Yours sincerely, > POWERWEB-TV > World Affiliates of CIL Group > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Wed May 30 04:03:20 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:03:20 -0700 Subject: [icecast] INCREDIBLE MEGA EXPERIENCE! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010529210320.G71631@lns.com> Easy solution... restrict postings to only those that subscribe to the list. Tim On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:15:00PM +1000, Jason Parlevliet wrote: > Hehe, yeah, and the pr0n wasn't even that good :) > > I'm on one mailing list that has died and has no traffic except spam. Problem is it's not majordomo and I can'r get a response from anyone human to unsubscribe me :( > > Jase > > >>> scott at john.ikansas.com 05/29/01 21:10 PM >>> > Nice, > > Statistics show that 3 out of the 4 lists I am subscribed to, 50% of them > suffer from spam. > > Scott > > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, POWERWEB-TV wrote: > > > Ladies & Gentlemen, > > > > Are you ready to the experience of a lifetime ? > > [...] --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From joly at dti.net Wed May 30 08:31:12 2001 From: joly at dti.net (WWWhatsup) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 04:31:12 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Stallman @ NYU Message-ID: <3B14AFD0.F615A2F9@dti.net> I did manage to dv-tape this from the front row, and thus got pretty fair audio, but a slightly awkward camera angle. NYU Media Lab had a tripod set up at the back, and were apparently intending to webcast the results via real. They were a little taken aback when I mentioned Richard's aversion to propietary formats, and thanked me profusely for pointing it out, and saving them grief. Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/ I do wish there was an 'free' SMIL player and a good low bitrate audio codec that would allow me to do the modem speed slideshow (sigh) I'll be happy to burn and mail cd's to any isoc/istf members that are interested. mailto:joly at dti.net?subject=stallman If you want video I'd have to clear it with gnu.org One appeal that Stallman did make, which strikes me as reasonable, is that in normal use when referring to the OS rather than just the kernel - one use the designation GNU/Linux .. to give full credit to the GPL community. "Still less syllables than Windows2000." GNU Press Release http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html CNET: Open-source guru to rebut Microsoft http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-6077553.html eweek: Stallman strikes back at Microsoft http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2766341,00.html ogg-vorbis info http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html -- **************cut when replying***************** ___________________________________________ WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com ___________________________________________ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jan at hundert6.de Wed May 30 13:59:48 2001 From: jan at hundert6.de (jan at hundert6.de) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:59:48 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general Message-ID: Hello everyone, I am very tempted to try and use icecast as the weapon of choice to realize a live audio stream for the radio station I work for. Now, the last time I tried the FreeBSD port of Icecast, it immediately consumed something like 95% CPU time, even without any client connected. I think someone else reported that problem, but I somehow lost track of the issue - has this been clarified?? The other question would be: Has anyone gotten liveice to actually run under FreeBSD? Thought I'd ask before I start. Bye and TIA, Jan -- Radio HUNDERT,6 Medien GmbH Berlin - EDV - j.muenther at radio.hundert6.de --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed May 30 14:24:30 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:24:30 -0400 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B15029E.35364CFE@gactr.uga.edu> i run the latest CVS versions of: icecast / liveice / lame without problem on freebsd-4.3. > I am very tempted to try and use icecast as the weapon of choice > to realize a live audio stream for the radio station I work for. > > Now, the last time I tried the FreeBSD port of Icecast, it > immediately consumed something like 95% CPU time, even without > any client connected. I think someone else reported that > problem, but I somehow lost track of the issue - has this been > clarified?? > > The other question would be: > > Has anyone gotten liveice to actually run under FreeBSD? > > Thought I'd ask before I start. > -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jan at hundert6.de Wed May 30 14:29:30 2001 From: jan at hundert6.de (jan at hundert6.de) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:29:30 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: <3B15029E.35364CFE@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: Hi, > icecast / liveice / lame > > without problem on freebsd-4.3. thanks a lot. How about OSS then, no troubles? What sound card do you use for A/D-changing? -- Radio HUNDERT,6 Medien GmbH Berlin - EDV - j.muenther at radio.hundert6.de --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed May 30 14:44:55 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:44:55 -0400 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B150767.22BD7A39@gactr.uga.edu> jan at hundert6.de wrote: > > i run the latest CVS versions of:> > > icecast / liveice / lame > > > > without problem on freebsd-4.3. > > thanks a lot. How about OSS then, no troubles? > What sound card do you use for A/D-changing? i use a very basic, tried-and-true ensoniq 1370. i've been using this combo for a while now. it is responsible for the internet broadcast of a local national public radio affiliate (http://www.wuga.org). -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From boersma at genomica.com Wed May 30 15:17:26 2001 From: boersma at genomica.com (Matt Boersma) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:17:26 -0600 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01053009172600.05086@buzz.genomica.com> On Wednesday 30 May 2001 07:59 am, you wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am very tempted to try and use icecast as the weapon of choice > to realize a live audio stream for the radio station I work for. > > Now, the last time I tried the FreeBSD port of Icecast, it > immediately consumed something like 95% CPU time, even without > any client connected. I think someone else reported that > problem, but I somehow lost track of the issue - has this been > clarified?? I'm using icecast1.3.10 (latest cvs), liveice and lame 3.88 on a FreeBSD 4.3 box. It's only a Pentium II-233, but it keeps up with encoding a low-bandwidth radio stream (anywhere from 16 to 64 kbits) just fine. Icecast is trivial in terms of CPU and memory usage: from 0.8 - 2 % CPU time and about 4MB of resident memory. I even "renice -10" it at the suggestion of someone else on this list. Lame (or another encoder) will be by far the biggest CPU consumer. One of the downsides of FreeBSD is that Fraunhofer's l3enc and mp3enc encoders are not supported on it (although you could probably run the Linux binary in compatibility mode). So lame is really your only choice for an encoder, as far as I can tell. Which isn't bad--the quality sounds as good to my ear at the low bitrates we use (and often better at CD-quality); it's just nice to have choices. FreeBSD doesn't have any audio drivers in the default kernel, so the first thing is to recompile the kernel, adding the proper driver (probably "pcm"). If you don't have the newer sock.c (from CVS, not in the 1.3.10.tgz distribution), you will likely hear "looping" problems, so make sure to get it. Some things that seemed to improve network performance and help crappy players like RealAudio not rebuffer: in src/icetypes.h, change the default values (8192 and 64) to these: #define BUFSIZE 16384 #define CHUNKLEN 128 And in /etc/rc.local (or another script run by root), add this: # Max out some network parameters for potential throughput improvement /sbin/sysctl -w kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=1048576 /sbin/sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768 /sbin/sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768 These made an obvious difference for our tests, YMMV. It's been rock solid and we're very happy with it, and the combo of FreeBSD + icecast + liveice + lame + donated old hardware = good value for a non-profit, community radio station. Plus, with the call letters KGNU, open source just makes sense. :-) There are several other radio stations doing this, and I've contacted many of them to try to find their "best practices." You're in good company. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jan at hundert6.de Wed May 30 15:50:25 2001 From: jan at hundert6.de (jan at hundert6.de) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:50:25 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: <01053009172600.05086@buzz.genomica.com> Message-ID: Hi, > I'm using icecast1.3.10 (latest cvs), liveice and lame 3.88 on > a FreeBSD 4.3 > box. It's only a Pentium II-233, but it keeps up with > encoding a > low-bandwidth radio stream (anywhere from 16 to 64 kbits) just > fine. Icecast > is trivial in terms of CPU and memory usage: from 0.8 - 2 % > CPU time and > about 4MB of resident memory. that's good news. It was clear to me the high load was kind of bogus, since the whole system overall stayed pretty reactive. But it was confusing nonetheless. > FreeBSD doesn't have any audio drivers in the default kernel, > so the first > thing is to recompile the kernel, adding the proper driver > (probably "pcm"). Thanks, but I know that, I've been using FreeBSD for a while ;o)) > If you don't have the newer sock.c (from CVS, not in the > 1.3.10.tgz > distribution), you will likely hear "looping" problems, so > make sure to get > it. Aah, alright. Thanks for the hint. > Some things that seemed to improve network performance and > help crappy > players like RealAudio not rebuffer: Thanks for these hints as well. You probably saved me a lot of painful testing. > > It's been rock solid and we're very happy with it, and the > combo of FreeBSD + > icecast + liveice + lame + donated old hardware = good value > for a > non-profit, community radio station. Well, the combination appeared to make sense to me, but after the last try I was a bit uncertain. You certainly clarified that ;o)) > Plus, with the call > letters KGNU, open > source just makes sense. :-) Hm... Hundert,6 doesn't really have any connotations, does it ;o)) > > There are several other radio stations doing this, and I've > contacted many of > them to try to find their "best practices." You're in good > company. Very well. Good to know that. Cheers, Jan -- Radio HUNDERT,6 Medien GmbH Berlin - EDV - j.muenther at radio.hundert6.de --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From seth at voyetra.com Wed May 30 15:56:41 2001 From: seth at voyetra.com (seth at voyetra.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:56:41 -0400 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: <[icecast] FreeBSD in general> Message-ID: <11EE7B923FA7D3118D74005004E221A0712196@exch-1> Hi there guys... I've been watching the list for a while, had a quick question. I work for a company (Turtle Beach) that makes a product that takes MP3 files that reside on your PC or Network Attached Storage, and lets you play them anywhere else in your home. (From your stereo for example.) Anyway, we've added basic MP3 streaming support (and have now gone to external beta) that supports the Icecast format. In my searches, I haven't really come across a lot of stations that are running regularly (and that could handle 25-30 listeners at a time regularly.) Any thoughts on where I should be looking? Thanks, Seth P.S. if you want to see the product I'm talking about, take a gander at www.audiotron.net or www.turtle-radio.com which is the portal people can use to setup their stations. ******************************************** J. Seth Dotterer Director of Marketing Voyetra / Turtle Beach seth at voyetra.com seth at tbeach.com www.voyetra.com www.tbeach.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: jan at hundert6.de [mailto:jan at hundert6.de] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:00 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general > > > Hello everyone, > > I am very tempted to try and use icecast as the weapon of choice > to realize a live audio stream for the radio station I work for. > > Now, the last time I tried the FreeBSD port of Icecast, it > immediately consumed something like 95% CPU time, even without > any client connected. I think someone else reported that > problem, but I somehow lost track of the issue - has this been > clarified?? > > The other question would be: > > Has anyone gotten liveice to actually run under FreeBSD? > > Thought I'd ask before I start. > > Bye and TIA, > > Jan > -- > Radio HUNDERT,6 Medien GmbH Berlin > - EDV - > j.muenther at radio.hundert6.de > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From susan at compumentor.org Wed May 30 17:12:31 2001 From: susan at compumentor.org (Susan Tenby) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:12:31 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Re: [isoc-ny] Stallman @ NYU In-Reply-To: <3B14AFD0.F615A2F9@dti.net> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010530100544.05909b90@167.160.244.65> On a similar note, TechSoup.org, the nonprofit technology portal at which I work, is currently having an Open Source online discussion event. It will only be happening for two more days. I would love to hear some of you Open Source geeks in the discussion. See you online, Susan. Please feel free to forward this announce to your friend and colleages: **************************************************************************** ******************** TECHSOUP.ORG AND HELPING.ORG INVITE YOU TO AN ONLINE FORUM ON OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS TechSoup.org and Helping.org invite you to participate in a national online event this week, "Open Source Software Solutions." Join us for a four day event May 29-June 1st in TechSoup's Community at: What is Open Source software? How difficult is it to use? What is the long term reliability of Open Source software? Is Open Source software better used on a server or a desktop? Does open source mean free? Which version of Linux should I use? This discussion with technology experts and nonprofit colleagues will help you determine when and if it makes sense for your organization to use Open Source software, and to dispel the myths around it. Pose your questions to tech experts, share your own experiences and find out, for example, how other nonprofits are using open source software in their organizations. Be avant-garde. Be revolutionary. Be part of the Open Source movement. This event at will be co-managed by the Benton Foundation (editors of Helping.org) and TechSoup.org. It will be facilitated by Open Source experts, Mark Jaronsky of Debian.org and Marnie Webb of Compumentor.org . Following the four day-long event, TechSoup will also host and archive the ongoing discussion on its message boards. This event will launch the new forum in the TechSoup Community, Open Source Solutions. This is the fourth in a series of nonprofit technology events, co-sponsored by TechSoup.org and Helping.org. **************************************************************************** ************** At 01:31 AM 5/30/01 -0700, WWWhatsup wrote: >I did manage to dv-tape this from the front row, and thus >got pretty fair audio, but a slightly awkward camera angle. > >NYU Media Lab had a tripod set up at the back, and were >apparently intending to webcast the results via real. They >were a little taken aback when I mentioned Richard's aversion >to propietary formats, and thanked me profusely for pointing >it out, and saving them grief. > >Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, >but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are >huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there >plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/ > >I do wish there was an 'free' SMIL player and a good low bitrate audio >codec that would allow me to do the modem speed slideshow (sigh) > >I'll be happy to burn and mail cd's to any isoc/istf members >that are interested. mailto:joly at dti.net?subject=stallman >If you want video I'd have to clear it with gnu.org > >One appeal that Stallman did make, which strikes me as reasonable, is >that in normal use when referring to the OS rather than just >the kernel - one use the designation GNU/Linux .. to give full >credit to the GPL community. "Still less syllables than Windows2000." > >GNU Press Release >http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html > >CNET: Open-source guru to rebut Microsoft >http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-6077553.html > >eweek: Stallman strikes back at Microsoft >http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2766341,00.html > >ogg-vorbis info >http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html >-- >**************cut when replying***************** >___________________________________________ > WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com > http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com >___________________________________________ > >---------------------------------------------- >http://isoc-ny.org >http://www.egroups.com/group/isoc-ny >"The Internet is for Everyone!" -- Vint Cerf >---------------------------------------------- > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Susan Tenby, Community Producer, TechSoup.org. 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From thomas at arkena.com Wed May 30 17:19:37 2001 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:19:37 +0200 Subject: [icecast] FreeBSD in general In-Reply-To: <11EE7B923FA7D3118D74005004E221A0712196@exch-1> Message-ID: <20010530191937.D25345@mmstreaming.dk> Hey There On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:56:41AM -0400, seth at voyetra.com wrote: > Anyway, we've added basic MP3 streaming support (and have now gone to > external beta) that supports the Icecast format. In my searches, I haven't > really come across a lot of stations that are running regularly (and that > could handle 25-30 listeners at a time regularly.) Im from a danish webcasting firm and we run 5 diffrent channels in 3 diffrent birates for a big danish website. You can check out http://netradio.opasia.dk Beware its in danish! :) And it only exist on the net! > > Any thoughts on where I should be looking? We are serving upto hundreds of listeners at one time and we got lots of bandwidth. Right now we are having some difficulties (some hardware are broken But we expect this problem to be fixed tommorw jahuu got new servers for our setup! -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk ARKENA thomas at arkena.com http://www.arkena.com The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep. -- W. C. Fields --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Wed May 30 17:47:14 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:47:14 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Stallman @ NYU In-Reply-To: <3B14AFD0.F615A2F9@dti.net> Message-ID: <20010530104714.A3023@i.cantcode.com> > > Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, > but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are > huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there > plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/ Use sox to take them to mono and 22kHz, then specify -b1 for the bitrate, and they will encode well below 128. These features will make it into a future version of oggenc, but for now, manual processing with sox is necessary. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From moz at w3.com.mx Wed May 30 19:27:19 2001 From: moz at w3.com.mx (Mario Marquez) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:27:19 -0500 Subject: [icecast] 90% ??? Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010530142549.0297ac70@10.1.1.1> Guys, I've installed Icecast 1.3.10 in a Linux Box, it's consuming 90% of the processor Why? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MoZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ M a r i o M ? r q ue z - Coordinador de ANICAST " La mejor estaci?n de M?sica ANIME " http://anicast.com.mx ICQ 13446118 AOL : MrMoZ moz at anicast.com.mx --- " Si hay la posibilidad de que varias cosas salgan mal, la que cause m?s da?o ser? la que salga peor" - Tercer Corolario de la Ley de Murphy --- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed May 30 19:57:46 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:57:46 -0600 Subject: [icecast] 90% ??? In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010530142549.0297ac70@10.1.1.1> Message-ID: <200105301957.NAA25475@home.knm.org> Are you re-encoding? That would do it. I've installed Icecast 1.3.10 in a Linux Box, it's consuming 90% of the processor --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From moz at w3.com.mx Wed May 30 20:56:29 2001 From: moz at w3.com.mx (Mario Marquez) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:56:29 -0500 Subject: [icecast] 90% ??? and... ALIAS In-Reply-To: <200105301957.NAA25475@home.knm.org> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010530155205.02146090@w3.com.mx> Sorry, I must give more information. I'm using shout like encoder. All mp3 files are 20 kbps, so I dont' think the problem is that. mmmm, I'd like to approach this message The SHOUT is encoding to http://anicast.com.mx:9000 when I send streamm with winamp, Icecast automatically enable http://anicast.com.mx:9000/icy_0 but I want to have http://anicast.com.mx:9000/envivo I read the documentaci?n, "alias" is the command I need I put in icecast.conf. bla, bla, bla . . . alias /icy_0 /envivo . . . Is it right? because it is not working =( I'd appreciate any help. At 01:57 p.m. 30/05/01 -0600, you wrote: >Are you re-encoding? That would do it. > > > I've installed Icecast 1.3.10 in a Linux Box, it's consuming 90% of the > processor > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From joly at dti.net Thu May 31 02:33:26 2001 From: joly at dti.net (WWWhatsup) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:33:26 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Stallman @ NYU In-Reply-To: <20010530104714.A3023@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <3B15AD76.BA684518@dti.net> um, where is sox? is there any lind of user guide, list of switches/methods for oggenc for CLI-challenged? I gave it a try last night and it refused my source - was that cos it's mono? (44khz 16bit wav) anyway I fedexed the wavs up to gnu.org on a couple of cd's with their vhs.. they are on the case now. I have re-recorded the audio as stereo for CD and am going to give oggenc another try tho, looking to fit it on a CD-rom with a couple of mpeg-1's.. > Use sox to take them to mono and 22kHz, then specify -b1 for the > bitrate, and they will encode well below 128. These features will make > it into a future version of oggenc, but for now, manual processing with > sox is necessary. > > jack. > -- **************cut when replying***************** ___________________________________________ WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com ___________________________________________ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From denis_getman at freemail.ru Thu May 31 04:49:49 2001 From: denis_getman at freemail.ru (Denis) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:49:49 +0400 Subject: [icecast] Time Limit In-Reply-To: <3B15AD76.BA684518@dti.net> Message-ID: <40917659.20010531084949@freemail.ru> Hi, all! Is there any method to limit connection to icecast server for any listener? I want my static mp3s to be limited for 30 seconds to listen. Is it possible? -- Best regards, Denis mailto:denis_getman at freemail.ru --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 31 05:13:47 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:13:47 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Time Limit In-Reply-To: <40917659.20010531084949@freemail.ru> Message-ID: <20010530221347.K3023@i.cantcode.com> > Is there any method to limit connection to icecast server for any > listener? > I want my static mp3s to be limited for 30 seconds to listen. Is it possible? Why don't you just make them 30 second mp3s? :) There's no feature in icecast like you described. There are plenty of other ways to do it though. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From denis_getman at freemail.ru Thu May 31 08:09:09 2001 From: denis_getman at freemail.ru (Denis) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:09:09 +0400 Subject: [icecast] Time Limit In-Reply-To: <20010530221347.K3023@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <1963855714.20010531120909@freemail.ru> Hello Jack, Thursday, May 31, 2001, 9:13:47 AM, you wrote: >> Is there any method to limit connection to icecast server for any >> listener? >> I want my static mp3s to be limited for 30 seconds to listen. Is it possible? JM> Why don't you just make them 30 second mp3s? :) It's too difficult to limit 120 GB's of mp3s. And there 'll be uploads and changes. Of course, I don't need to permanently limit mp3s - it must be a free examples of full tracks. JM> There's no feature in icecast like you described. There are plenty of JM> other ways to do it though. Like what? I 've thought about changing sources of icecast, but I have no time for that. -- Best regards, Denis mailto:denis_getman at freemail.ru --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arr at gweep.net Thu May 31 17:31:40 2001 From: arr at gweep.net (arr at gweep.net) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:31:40 -0400 Subject: [icecast] different play lists on different ports? Message-ID: <15126.32764.966964.337224@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> I'm running icecast 3.1.10 (from the ports collection) on a freebsd 4.3 machine with a hacked version of iceplay doing the encoding. With older version of icecast you could start multiple instances and tell iceplay to broadcast to each one of those instances with a different playlist. This version of icecast seems to only run one instance, even if I try to start more than one. So, I've tried using multiple ports in the icecast.conf file, but every port plays the same playlist. Is this a "feature" or should I actually be able to point different encoding processes with different play lists at each port I define in icecast.conf? Thanks... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 31 17:40:59 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:40:59 -0700 Subject: [icecast] different play lists on different ports? In-Reply-To: <15126.32764.966964.337224@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Message-ID: <20010531104059.S3023@i.cantcode.com> > I'm running icecast 3.1.10 (from the ports collection) on a freebsd 4.3 First of all, I hope you meant 1.3.10. If there's an icecast 3.1.10 floating around, there are bigger problems. > machine with a hacked version of iceplay doing the encoding. With older > version of icecast you could start multiple instances and tell iceplay to > broadcast to each one of those instances with a different playlist. This > version of icecast seems to only run one instance, even if I try to start more > than one. 1.3.10 definately works with multiple mounts (what you called instances) without problems. You likely are using the wrong option to iceplay (god knows why you are using that really outdated and inadequate tool). At the console in icecast, you can see what mountpoints the sources try to grab. Type sources will also show you this. > So, I've tried using multiple ports in the icecast.conf file, but every port > plays the same playlist. Is this a "feature" or should I actually be able to > point different encoding processes with different play lists at each port I > define in icecast.conf? The ports all do the exact same thing. Each port is just a copy, their only real use is Shoutcast compatibility since they do everything on different ports. We do everything on one port, but you can specify multiple ports. Each port is the saem as the others. However, requestings different mountpoints on the any port should get you the different streams. Here are a few other random idea: you playlist files are either the same, or are getting mixed together? you aren't requesting mountpoints, but always the default mount? jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Thu May 31 19:21:03 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:21:03 -0600 Subject: [icecast] [fred@vonlohmann.com: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back...] Message-ID: <20010531132103.D9932@i.cantcode.com> This is a mail in response to streamripper being threatened by legal action from Live365. The DMCA strikes again. jack. ----- Forwarded message from Fred von Lohmann ----- Delivered-To: jack at localhost.cantcode.com Delivered-To: jack at icecast.org X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.onehouse.com: majordomo set sender to owner-pho at onehouse.com using -f X-Sent: 31 May 2001 19:05:59 GMT Reply-To: "Fred von Lohmann" From: "Fred von Lohmann" To: "Jack Moffitt" , Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:18:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Precedence: bulk 1. I agree with Jack's sentiment -- Americans who tape the radio don't think they are breaking the law, and the same goes for those who save streams. 2. Now what the law *actually* has to say about taping from the radio is a complicated subject, as it happens. If you do it with an analog cassette deck or MD player, it's legal (17 USC 1008). If you do it with a computer, well, who knows? AFAIK, a court has never addressed the fair use argument in this context (partly b/c the RIAA has no incentive to litigate in this case, which it would likely lose). 3. But, after the passage of DMCA's section 1201, a court may NEVER reach the fair use question for digital streams. According to at least one court, all you have to do is embed a "no copy" bit in your stream (even if the stream itself is unencrypted and in the clear), and anyone who builds software that ignores the bit is liable for unlawful circumvention, *even if the recording would otherwise have been fair use.* See Real Networks v. Streambox, 2000 WL 127311 (W.D.Wash. Jan.18, 2000). Anyone want to venture a guess on whether Live365's sophisticated <\smirk> anti-copying measure, detailed below, qualifies as a "technological protection measure" under 1201? >Live365 put a large string in one of there HTML files >that reads: > >// DEFINITION clegg n - large swift fly the female of >which sucks blood of various animals [syn horsefly, >cleg, horse fly] > >repeated about 100 times. they did this to over run a >buffer in my html parsing code, thats why streamripper >crashes. If Real's "no copy" flag qualifies, I don't see why Live365's html wouldn't. Ah, how I hate DMCA section 1201! Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Moffitt" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... > > I think it's unfair and inflammatory to call the copying of a digital stream > > analgous to the analog taping of analog broadcast radio. > > I think it's also unfair and inflammatory to misuse 'digital'. > > For streaming applications, and for most practical storage, digital > copies are not exact copies of the original, but lossily compressed > ones. > > Sure they can be infinitely recopied without loss, but they still aren't > as good as the CD. > > And even if they were, or if radio broadcasted sending raw audio > digitally, I WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO MAKE COPIES. > > Streamripper and similar tools are perfectly legitimate tools that have > perfectly legitimate purposes. I find these things most often used by > the broadcasters themselves to make archives of their broadcasts, since > a lot of the broadcasting tools out there don't do this for you. > > > The intent behind using streamripper to save a stream you like, and > taping a broadcast from radio, is the same. And both _should_ be > protected by fair use, to hell with what the DMCA says I can or cannot > do. > > jack. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. > > To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. > To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your > request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). > To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put > "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. ----- End forwarded message ----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mstolte at dds.nl Wed May 30 20:12:46 2001 From: mstolte at dds.nl (Maarten Stolte) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:12:46 +0200 Subject: [icecast] [fred@vonlohmann.com: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back...] In-Reply-To: <20010531132103.D9932@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <000501c0e944$e48d7e60$0301a8c0@maarten> k' then. now our problem... We have (in the netherlands) a site which has the top 100 singles in Real. We have the copy bit on, still Warner wants us to only stream 30 seconds of each song. Even worse, our on demand 'radio station', which has thousands of songs on request is threatened too. Any idea how we stand? Maarten ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Moffitt" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:21 PM Subject: [icecast] [fred at vonlohmann.com: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back...] > This is a mail in response to streamripper being threatened by legal > action from Live365. The DMCA strikes again. > > jack. > > ----- Forwarded message from Fred von Lohmann ----- > > Delivered-To: jack at localhost.cantcode.com > Delivered-To: jack at icecast.org > X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.onehouse.com: majordomo set sender to owner-pho at onehouse.com using -f > X-Sent: 31 May 2001 19:05:59 GMT > Reply-To: "Fred von Lohmann" > From: "Fred von Lohmann" > To: "Jack Moffitt" , > Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:18:39 -0700 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 > X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > Precedence: bulk > > 1. I agree with Jack's sentiment -- Americans who tape the radio don't think > they are breaking the law, and the same goes for those who save streams. > > 2. Now what the law *actually* has to say about taping from the radio is a > complicated subject, as it happens. If you do it with an analog cassette > deck or MD player, it's legal (17 USC 1008). If you do it with a computer, > well, who knows? AFAIK, a court has never addressed the fair use argument in > this context (partly b/c the RIAA has no incentive to litigate in this case, > which it would likely lose). > > 3. But, after the passage of DMCA's section 1201, a court may NEVER reach > the fair use question for digital streams. According to at least one court, > all you have to do is embed a "no copy" bit in your stream (even if the > stream itself is unencrypted and in the clear), and anyone who builds > software that ignores the bit is liable for unlawful circumvention, *even if > the recording would otherwise have been fair use.* See Real Networks v. > Streambox, 2000 WL 127311 (W.D.Wash. Jan.18, 2000). > > Anyone want to venture a guess on whether Live365's sophisticated > <\smirk> anti-copying measure, detailed below, qualifies as a "technological > protection measure" under 1201? > > >Live365 put a large string in one of there HTML files > >that reads: > > > >// DEFINITION clegg n - large swift fly the female of > >which sucks blood of various animals [syn horsefly, > >cleg, horse fly] > > > >repeated about 100 times. they did this to over run a > >buffer in my html parsing code, thats why streamripper > >crashes. > > If Real's "no copy" flag qualifies, I don't see why Live365's html wouldn't. > Ah, how I hate DMCA section 1201! > > Fred > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Moffitt" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... > > > > > I think it's unfair and inflammatory to call the copying of a digital > stream > > > analgous to the analog taping of analog broadcast radio. > > > > I think it's also unfair and inflammatory to misuse 'digital'. > > > > For streaming applications, and for most practical storage, digital > > copies are not exact copies of the original, but lossily compressed > > ones. > > > > Sure they can be infinitely recopied without loss, but they still aren't > > as good as the CD. > > > > And even if they were, or if radio broadcasted sending raw audio > > digitally, I WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO MAKE COPIES. > > > > Streamripper and similar tools are perfectly legitimate tools that have > > perfectly legitimate purposes. I find these things most often used by > > the broadcasters themselves to make archives of their broadcasts, since > > a lot of the broadcasting tools out there don't do this for you. > > > > > > The intent behind using streamripper to save a stream you like, and > > taping a broadcast from radio, is the same. And both _should_ be > > protected by fair use, to hell with what the DMCA says I can or cannot > > do. > > > > jack. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. > > > > To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. > > To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your > > request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). > > To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put > > "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. > > To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. > To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your > request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). > To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put > "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jeff at taveren.ne.mediaone.net Thu May 31 10:41:46 2001 From: jeff at taveren.ne.mediaone.net (Jeffrey Noll) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:41:46 -0400 Subject: [icecast] reencode scripts if anyone is interested Message-ID: <001001c0e9be$50ad0bf0$0201a8c0@dreamtime> I decided to make a few shell scripts that can be used to connect to icecast, decode/reencode a stream, and then send the result back to icecast. I guess this can be done with liveice, but this seemed like a simpler solution for my needs. I have it triggered by a cgi script that i click on when at work and want to listen to my tunes at a lower, more reliable bitrate. There are basically three scripts: reencode.sh: main start/stop script. ala rc.d style receive.sh: connects to icecast server stream, pipes to lame, and pipes to fifo file send.sh: reads data from fifo and sends back to icecast server The only dependencies are a fairly new version of lame (with mpg123 lib decode ability) and nc (netcat). I've only been using this a day or so, so its probably not perfect, but it very easy to get running and turn on and off. Cheers.
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Name: send.sh Type: application/octet-stream Size: 865 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jack at icecast.org Thu May 31 22:42:34 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:42:34 -0600 Subject: [icecast] [fred@vonlohmann.com: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back...] In-Reply-To: <000501c0e944$e48d7e60$0301a8c0@maarten> Message-ID: <20010531164234.G9932@i.cantcode.com> > Even worse, our on demand 'radio station', which has thousands of songs on > request is threatened too. > Any idea how we stand? Threatened? I don't believe it. It's mine, and every consumers right to copy things as we see fit for personal use. You are not threatened by this. The DMCA is an abomination of a law. It will be stricken from the books in due time. Warner can say nothing about streaming audio. They are required to provide you a statuatory license if you meet the requirements, and streaming in .wav format can still meet the requirements. As for on demand stuff, you're in nebulous territory anyway. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Thu May 31 22:53:06 2001 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (Oddsock) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:53:06 -0500 Subject: [icecast] [fred@vonlohmann.com: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back...] In-Reply-To: <20010531132103.D9932@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010531173651.02a8f828@oddsock.org> from what I understand, and I have a bit of personal experience on the matter :) , Live was not as concerned about the "streamripping" as they were about the unauthorized interaction with their website. Streamripper had to do this in order to get the song titles, and they didn't like the idea of someone circumventing their "playlist window" which from what I understand was one of their money makers.... now don't get me wrong, this does not mean that they were all too happy about the actual saving off of the streams, I'm just saying their "legal" description of the suit (as far as I could tell) was more concerned about the behind the back website interaction... o a more interesting question is who owns the actual broadcast...I'd say there are many people who use 3rd party bandwidth to stream their station, do these parties have a right to prevent access to the broadcast because they are doing something they find offensive ? and is it wrong for someone to save off a stream to listen at a later time ? I think not, otherwise there would be a lot of unhappy TiVo users out there... also, I do not necessarily believe that Live was really the ones behind this "legal action", although being paranoid about these thing is not good kharma... oddsock At 02:21 PM 5/31/2001, you wrote: >This is a mail in response to streamripper being threatened by legal >action from Live365. The DMCA strikes again. > >jack. > >----- Forwarded message from Fred von Lohmann ----- > >Delivered-To: jack at localhost.cantcode.com >Delivered-To: jack at icecast.org >X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.onehouse.com: majordomo set sender to >owner-pho at onehouse.com using -f >X-Sent: 31 May 2001 19:05:59 GMT >Reply-To: "Fred von Lohmann" >From: "Fred von Lohmann" >To: "Jack Moffitt" , >Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:18:39 -0700 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 >Precedence: bulk > >1. I agree with Jack's sentiment -- Americans who tape the radio don't think >they are breaking the law, and the same goes for those who save streams. > >2. Now what the law *actually* has to say about taping from the radio is a >complicated subject, as it happens. If you do it with an analog cassette >deck or MD player, it's legal (17 USC 1008). If you do it with a computer, >well, who knows? AFAIK, a court has never addressed the fair use argument in >this context (partly b/c the RIAA has no incentive to litigate in this case, >which it would likely lose). > >3. But, after the passage of DMCA's section 1201, a court may NEVER reach >the fair use question for digital streams. According to at least one court, >all you have to do is embed a "no copy" bit in your stream (even if the >stream itself is unencrypted and in the clear), and anyone who builds >software that ignores the bit is liable for unlawful circumvention, *even if >the recording would otherwise have been fair use.* See Real Networks v. >Streambox, 2000 WL 127311 (W.D.Wash. Jan.18, 2000). > >Anyone want to venture a guess on whether Live365's sophisticated ><\smirk> anti-copying measure, detailed below, qualifies as a "technological >protection measure" under 1201? > > >Live365 put a large string in one of there HTML files > >that reads: > > > >// DEFINITION clegg n - large swift fly the female of > >which sucks blood of various animals [syn horsefly, > >cleg, horse fly] > > > >repeated about 100 times. they did this to over run a > >buffer in my html parsing code, thats why streamripper > >crashes. > >If Real's "no copy" flag qualifies, I don't see why Live365's html wouldn't. >Ah, how I hate DMCA section 1201! > >Fred > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jack Moffitt" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:07 AM >Subject: Re: pho: How Live365 fights back... > > > > > I think it's unfair and inflammatory to call the copying of a digital >stream > > > analgous to the analog taping of analog broadcast radio. > > > > I think it's also unfair and inflammatory to misuse 'digital'. > > > > For streaming applications, and for most practical storage, digital > > copies are not exact copies of the original, but lossily compressed > > ones. > > > > Sure they can be infinitely recopied without loss, but they still aren't > > as good as the CD. > > > > And even if they were, or if radio broadcasted sending raw audio > > digitally, I WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO MAKE COPIES. > > > > Streamripper and similar tools are perfectly legitimate tools that have > > perfectly legitimate purposes. I find these things most often used by > > the broadcasters themselves to make archives of their broadcasts, since > > a lot of the broadcasting tools out there don't do this for you. > > > > > > The intent behind using streamripper to save a stream you like, and > > taping a broadcast from radio, is the same. And both _should_ be > > protected by fair use, to hell with what the DMCA says I can or cannot > > do. > > > > jack. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- > > This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. > > > > To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. > > To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your > > request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). > > To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put > > "unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the pho mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.4. > >To send a message to the list, email pho at onehouse.com. >To send a request to majordomo, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put your >request in the body of the message (use request "help" for help). >To unsubscribe from the list, email majordomo at onehouse.com and put >"unsubscribe pho" in the body of the message. > >----- End forwarded message ----- > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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