From route66 at machineandsoul.com Thu Mar 1 04:16:13 2001 From: route66 at machineandsoul.com (dj66) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:16:13 -0600 Subject: [icecast] live365 Message-ID: <001101c0a206$5afe69a0$0200a8c0@darklight> Another, but more recent problem, I am having is Live365. I haven't done much work with it, but can you relay to Live365 properly? They give me an ip and it works, but I don't show up in their listings, and the song title doesn't show up in the client's mp3player. (whereas if someone listens to the local broadcast they do get the song titles). Using latest, from CVS, Icecast and Streamcast (libshout streamer). ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Death has long been considered humanity's number one concern. Responsible for 100 percent of all recorded fatalities worldwide, the condition has no cure." mailto:rookd at msoe.edu http://dj66.machineandsoul.com internet/college radio - http://www.machineandsoul.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Thu Mar 1 11:30:24 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:30:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: [icecast] some more log info for my problem Message-ID: I've managed to get some more debug info in the logs. I cleared the log, changed the log debug level to 4 and started icecast, shout and a client. Here are some relevant lines from the log : CLIENT CONNECTION : [01/Mar/2001:11:36:58] [6:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2 from ... This client connection ends up as source thread 5. The first error is mentioned after about 20 minutes. [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err [11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err [11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 1 errors -2 chunks behind source [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err [11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err [11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 1 errors -2 chunks behind source [01/Mar/2001:11:57:46] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err [11] Now here's an interesting thing - there's some kind of 6 bit overflow in the chunks behind source... the line "40 errors -41 chunks behind source" turns to "41 errors 22 behind source". This happens after about ten seconds after the first mention of an error. [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 40 errors -41 chunks behind source [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 41 errors 22 chunks behind source [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_write_bytes_or_kick: -1 err[11] [01/Mar/2001:11:57:57] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 41 errors 22 chunks behind source The number of errors keeps increasing to 63 and the chunks decreasing to 0 : (this is after 7 more seconds) [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: client 2 tried 2 times, now has 63 errors 0 chunks behind source After which the client gets kicked : [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] Kicking client 2 [192.168.1.21] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 21 minutes and 6 seconds, 20000221 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: Removing connection 2 of type 0 [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: sock_close: Closing socket 11 [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: Closing fd 11 [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: Removing client 2 (0x8092900) from sourcetree of (0x4017f008) And then a whole lot of cid's (are these chunk id's ???) are cleared. [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] -------add_chunk: Chunk 26 was [4096] bytes [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] DEBUG: Kicking trailing clients [1] on id 27 [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] Clearing cid 27 [01/Mar/2001:11:58:04] [5:Source Thread] -------add_chunk: Chunk 27 was [3728] bytes and so on for each chunk. So, the errors all seem to pile up over about 30 seconds while not having had any errors before that. Is there someone who knows a bit more about the icecast source who could help me find out what these errors might mean and how I can go about solving them ? I'm keeping the debug logs if anyone is interested to take a look at them... thanks, thomas <-*- -*-> No matter how you try you'll never be as cheap as me when people have got no one else they can always sleep with me and no one else could be a better friend to you than me <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tprinty at columbus.rr.com Thu Mar 1 15:15:01 2001 From: tprinty at columbus.rr.com (Tom Printy) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:15:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] live365 In-Reply-To: <001101c0a206$5afe69a0$0200a8c0@darklight> Message-ID: Live 365 requires you to send them the song titles. I am using djiab to stream to live365. Check it out at www.djiab.org Perhaps you can borrow some code from here to update your titles on live365. -Tom Printy www.goonsquadradio.com > Another, but more recent problem, I am having is Live365. I haven't done > much work with it, but can you relay to Live365 properly? They give me an > ip and it works, but I don't show up in their listings, and the song title > doesn't show up in the client's mp3player. (whereas if someone listens to > the local broadcast they do get the song titles). > > Using latest, from CVS, Icecast and Streamcast (libshout streamer). > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > "Death has long been considered humanity's number one > concern. Responsible for 100 percent of all recorded > fatalities worldwide, the condition has no cure." > > mailto:rookd at msoe.edu http://dj66.machineandsoul.com > internet/college radio - http://www.machineandsoul.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From dennisd at best.com Thu Mar 1 18:29:56 2001 From: dennisd at best.com (David Dennis) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] connection problem In-Reply-To: <001501c0a187$fe241b90$a0727118@lithium> Message-ID: fwiw erver icecast 1.3.7 / ices 0.0.1beta5 erver on a dsl line (384kbps) client on a LAN separate to it going through several hops winamp has the drop client problems. And recently another weird problem, it spawns with only one channel balance way over to the right. this can suck if your windows has no balance control for its audio! onique: stays connected for hours and hours xmms/unix . stays connected for days winamp sucks the llamas dick, i like its user interface a lot better than sonique, but sonique is definitely more functional. under winduhs. which unfortunately is my only option from work .... On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Kelly Lee Myers wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:11:41 -0800 > From: Kelly Lee Myers > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem > > I am pretty sure that the integrity of my mp3's is okay. I know that music > match shreds the mp3 data and produces mp3 files that are not ISO compliant. > I always use WaveLab and the radium codec to encode my sets and enable the > ISO compatibility option at all times. This problem only seemed to come > about with winamp 2.7 but if sonique is doing it to, I don't know... > What about relaying? Do streams get dropped in a similar manner in relay > setup? If so then it would be network code or the network itself related. > All of my test were done over the lan or locally on the same box using a > duplicate instance of winamp to tune into the server and produced the same > results. When done over the net served off of cable, to Palo Alto and back > to Vancouver, Canada on my ADSL modem I got the same problem happening > around the same time... If XMMS is not doing it then this leads me to > believe that either the networking code in winamp 2.7 is shot (again) or > it's the new decoder engine over 2.64 cause I never had this kind of problem > with that version and used the same mp3 files for streaming then and now > encoded with ISO compatibility. > > Just trying to eliminate some possibilities here... > > Lithium > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Kirk" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:46 AM > Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem > > > > Hey there again > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:16:12PM +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > > > > > > The tests I've done in-house were with winamp as a client, and the > > > following server/streamer combinations : > > > icecast 1.3.0/shout 0.8.0 > > > icecast 1.3.7/shout 0.8.0 > > > icecast 1.3.8b2/shout 0.8.0 > > > > dont use shout! its buggy use ices or use libshout > > > > > icecast 1.3.8b2/ices 0.0.5 > > > > another thing could be your mp3s? Have you checked their integrity? Its > very > > important that they are 100% right go and fetch mp3check from freshmeat or > > some other tool that will test their quality. Use cdparanoia when you rip > > and lame when you encode. > > > > > > > > -- > > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards > > Thomas Kirk > > thomas at arkena.com > > http://www.arkena.com > > > > > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be > > unhappy. > > -- Groucho Marx > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From asym at rfnj.org Thu Mar 1 18:51:46 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 13:51:46 -0500 Subject: [icecast] connection problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010301134945.00c46e50@64.7.7.83> At 10:29 3/1/2001 -0800, you wrote: >fwiw > >server icecast 1.3.7 / ices 0.0.1beta5 > >server on a dsl line (384kbps) > >client on a LAN separate to it going through several hops > >winamp has the drop client problems. And recently another weird problem, >it spawns with only one channel balance way over to the right. this can >suck if your windows has no balance control for its audio! > >sonique: stays connected for hours and hours > >xmms/unix . stays connected for days > >winamp sucks the llamas dick, i like its user interface a lot better than >sonique, but sonique is definitely more functional. under winduhs. which >unfortunately is my only option from work .... I just say I have to agree here.. :) If sonique could source streams, and didn't have such a "hip" interface, I'd use it. If I had the time, I'd try and come up with a plugin to source streams from one of the other tools like sonique or freeamp.. but there are a lot of things I'd do if I had the time. ;) -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svs at talicom.de Thu Mar 1 20:48:27 2001 From: svs at talicom.de (Sebastian von Swiontek) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:48:27 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Compiling errors by reencode Message-ID: <3A9EB59B.8180684A@talicom.de> Hi there, I hope you can help me: I want to compile the newest ices with reencode and use lame3.70. At the 'configure' he checks successfully for 'lame decode in lmp3lame'. But when I do a 'make', I have the following message: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../resolver -I../thread -I../libshout -I/tmp/Download/lame3.70 -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i586-linux/CORE -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i586-linux/CORE -I/usr/include/gnome-xml -g -O2 -Wall -c reencode.c reencode.c: In function `ices_reencode_initialize': reencode.c:46: void value not ignored as it ought to be reencode.c:60: void value not ignored as it ought to be reencode.c: In function `ices_reencode_reset': reencode.c:97: void value not ignored as it ought to be reencode.c:113: void value not ignored as it ought to be make[3]: *** [reencode.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/icecast/ices-0.0.1.beta5/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/icecast/ices-0.0.1.beta5/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/icecast/ices-0.0.1.beta5' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Please help me: What can it be? Is it the wrong lame version? Or is there antoher problem in my configuration. Thanks in advance, Sepp de Schnepp -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Kind regards Sebastian von Swiontek System Engineering e-mail : svs at talicom.de talicom GmbH Tel. : +49 511 123599-16 Calenberger Esplanade 3 Fax. : +49 511 123599-11 D-30169 Hannover Mobile : +49 172 5185548 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dennisd at best.com Fri Mar 2 20:55:40 2001 From: dennisd at best.com (David Dennis) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:55:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] connection problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What version of linux are you running, and on what platform, and do you run it 'headless' or is it running a desktop. Just for my own curiosity. Also did you run from am rpm of icecast or did you compile it for your platform. On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:09:41 +0100 (CET) > From: Thomas Vander Stichele > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] connection problem > > > Hey there again > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:16:12PM +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > > > > > > The tests I've done in-house were with winamp as a client, and the > > > following server/streamer combinations : > > > icecast 1.3.0/shout 0.8.0 > > > icecast 1.3.7/shout 0.8.0 > > > icecast 1.3.8b2/shout 0.8.0 > > I don't know what it is that causes shout not to work for other people. I > have 12 instances of shout 0.8.0 running for 45 days straight without any > single problem. All the problems I ever have had with icecast seem to > have been on the client side. Anyway, even in this setup there is no > difference between the version with shout or with ices. I can believe > there are people having problems with shout, but for me it works perfect > at the moment. The people that are actually using the streams in > production haven't complained for two months, so ... > > > another thing could be your mp3s? Have you checked their integrity? Its very > > important that they are 100% right go and fetch mp3check from freshmeat or > > some other tool that will test their quality. Use cdparanoia when you rip > > and lame when you encode. > > The mp3's are created from 192 kbit mpeg-layer 2 mixes made by a program > of mine which are then fed to mpg123 to go to the sample domain and then > back to lame. So I'm pretty sure they're ok. > > That's one thing I should have mentioned as well : I'm streaming mp3's > lasting 2 hours. Is it possible that media player can detect this or not > ? > > Thomas > > <-*- -*-> > Follow me down to the bushes dear > No one will know we'll disappear > I'll hold your hand we'll never tell > Our private little trip to hell tonight > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jeanttil at cc.hut.fi Mon Mar 5 08:31:42 2001 From: jeanttil at cc.hut.fi (Janne Anttila) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:31:42 +0200 (EET) Subject: [icecast] yp.shoutcast.com and directory server error #404 Message-ID: I'm having trouble adding my icecast server (1.3.8 beta2) to yp.shoutcast.com. Is there any solution for this? Janne --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Mon Mar 5 09:47:52 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:47:52 +0100 Subject: [icecast] ogg streaming Message-ID: <20010305100501.B3F8018D01D@motherfish.xiph.org> is there anyone who is streaming ogg/vorbis live? is there a icecast 2.0 server which is working and available for testing? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Mon Mar 5 10:22:47 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:22:47 +0100 Subject: [icecast] ogg streaming In-Reply-To: <20010305100501.B3F8018D01D@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: <20010305102158.EE09018D01D@motherfish.xiph.org> On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:47:52 +0100, Sm?rk wrote: >is there anyone who is streaming ogg/vorbis live? > >is there a icecast 2.0 server which is working and available for >testing? I mean one which is online. I compiled icecast 2.0, but it seems not working. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ks_touray at fanafana.com Wed Mar 7 06:51:30 2001 From: ks_touray at fanafana.com (Katim S. Touray) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:51:30 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Icecast installation Message-ID: <3AA5DA72.5B9D391E@fanafana.com> Hi there, Is anyone available to help install an Icecast suite for me? By suite I mean Icecast, Ices (or some other way to stream static files), and Icedir (a directory server). Please e-mail me if you'd like to help (either for "thank you" or pay). Thanks, and best wishes. Sincerely, Katim --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alan at performantsystems.com Wed Mar 7 05:55:59 2001 From: alan at performantsystems.com (Alan Gruskoff) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:59 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Icecast installation, streaming static files In-Reply-To: <3AA5DA72.5B9D391E@fanafana.com> Message-ID: <3AA5CD6F.AF1E4AD2@performantsystems.com> Some documentation, examples and a live working site streaming static files may help. I have developed Dynamic Playlists via PHP scripting. This allows a user to check off a selection of songs they would like to hear and then start an Icecast stream of just those songs. Kind of like an online jukebox, no quarters needed. Dynamic Playlists are now installed on my site: http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/ See the Songs section and click multiple songs (Listen button OR the Checkbox), then hit [ Play my selected songs ] at the page bottom to start the stream. As I have done in the past, I have offered up some documentation as to how this is done, using PHP scripting, see: http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/IcecastStaticHOWTO.html, look for Dynamic Playlists. Even if you don't use PHP scripting, the concepts will be the same. I hope this is of value to music web page designers. Let me know how it goes. -Big Al "Katim S. Touray" wrote: > Hi there, > > Is anyone available to help install an Icecast suite for me? By suite I mean > Icecast, Ices (or some other way to stream static files), and Icedir (a > directory server). Please e-mail me if you'd like to help (either for "thank > you" or pay). > > Thanks, and best wishes. > > Sincerely, > > Katim > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From at $#3Z Wed Mar 7 06:10:22 2001 From: at $#3Z ( at $#3Z) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:10:22 +0000 (zulu) Subject: [icecast] Icecast installation In-Reply-To: <3AA5DA72.5B9D391E@fanafana.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Katim S. Touray wrote: > Is anyone available to help install an Icecast suite for me? By suite I mean > Icecast, Ices (or some other way to stream static files), and Icedir (a > directory server). Please e-mail me if you'd like to help (either for "thank > you" or pay). hire at hackers-for-hire.com Good luck! Anton S. 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From smoerk at gmx.de Thu Mar 8 22:21:22 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:21:22 +0100 Subject: [icecast] docu for ice protocol Message-ID: <20010308222956.076B318D02C@motherfish.xiph.org> hello jack, i'm using a tcl script for streaming mp3. i tried to adapt it for ogg streaming, but think there is something wrong. what has changed from x-audiocast to ice? i changed the header according to shout.cand icecast 2 says it gets a correct header. then i send the ogg file, but i cannot receive it? is there something else which has changed? m?rk --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ryan at tron-thorpe.com Sat Mar 10 04:46:24 2001 From: ryan at tron-thorpe.com (Ryan Sayre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:46:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] liblame vs libmp3lame.... anyways, it don't work. Message-ID: I took the latest installation of lame (both stable and beta) and installed those with the default install variables. The last one I compiled was lame3.87. I then have the ices-0.0.1.beta5 and config'd the sources with ./configure --with-perl --with-lame and installed. Yet, when I run ices -R, it complains with the following line when I run the -R option: Support for reencoding with liblame was not found. You can't reencode this. Yikes! It's right there and I didn't note any documentation regarding this error...so I assume this is new? What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your thoughts. 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From smoerk at web.de Sun Mar 11 03:12:11 2001 From: smoerk at web.de (Oliver Thuns) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:12:11 +0100 Subject: [icecast] live streaming soft (windows) Message-ID: <200103110312.f2B3CAN32050@mailgate3.cinetic.de> http://radiostudio.org/ostream/ostream-ogg.zip imple (and maybe first?) windows software for live streaming (from soundcard). it's far from perferct, but it works. _______________________________________________________________________________ Alles unter einem Dach: Informationen, Fun, E-Mails. Bei WEB.DE: http://web.de Die gro?e Welt der Kommunikation: E-Mail, Fax, SMS, WAP: http://freemail.web.de --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoirand at netcourrier.com Sun Mar 11 17:59:58 2001 From: tgoirand at netcourrier.com (Thomas Goirand) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:59:58 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried to install icecast 2 in beta version on a debian. Installation was ok but when i launch icecast, it shows on output the configuration file in xml and exit with error. Is it a problem with my xml parser (libxml2) or with icecast ? Somebody did ever install icecast ? can he tell me which configuration his got? Thanx -- T o m --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From route66 at machineandsoul.com Sun Mar 11 18:08:04 2001 From: route66 at machineandsoul.com (dj66) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:08:04 -0600 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c0aa56$37f33910$0200a8c0@darklight> > I tried to install icecast 2 in beta version on a debian. > Installation was ok but when i launch icecast, it shows on output the > configuration file in xml and exit with error. > Is it a problem with my xml parser (libxml2) or with icecast ? > Somebody did ever install icecast ? can he tell me which configuration his got? I run a debian system and had the same problem, and I'm positive I have the libxml libraries installed. I probably forgot to compile icecast with libxml, though. You can just use the command prompt. ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Death has long been considered humanity's number one concern. 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From smoerk at gmx.de Sun Mar 11 22:03:56 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:03:56 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010311220536.48E8718D018@motherfish.xiph.org> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:59:58 +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: >I tried to install icecast 2 in beta version on a debian. >Installation was ok but when i launch icecast, it shows on output the >configuration file in xml and exit with error. compiled the sources from yesterday on debian testing. works. what error message do you get? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon Mar 12 03:19:03 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:19:03 -0800 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.9 Message-ID: <20010311191903.E31941@tk421.icecast.org> This took longer than it should have. Icecast 1.3.9 fixes all the known security problems, and also adresses many that weren't reported, thanks to a code audit by John Viega. If you for some reason have problems with 1.3.9 that prevent you from using it, please, please, please make sure you don't run icecast as root, or make sure you have patched the problem areas yourself. Along with icecast 1.3.9, libshout 1.0.5 has been released. There were minor bugfixes, and one possible security fix. These will probably be the last releases of icecast 1.3.x and libshout 1.x. Unless of course, there are other important security fixes that need to be addressed. Icecast 2.0 is shaping up nicely, getting lots of input from early testers. By the time an alpha release of icecast is ready, all the player plugins should support streaming well. Right now there are still a few lingering issues with the winamp plugin, but Freeamp, Xmms, and Sonique seem to be doing great. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alexander at newald.de Mon Mar 12 03:53:52 2001 From: alexander at newald.de (Alexander Newald) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:53:52 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.9 In-Reply-To: <20010311191903.E31941@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <3AAC4850.409A5C89@newald.de> Jack Moffitt wrote: > > This took longer than it should have. > > Icecast 1.3.9 fixes all the known security problems, and also adresses > many that weren't reported, thanks to a code audit by John Viega. I'm happy to hear that but have some problems with it. I'm running a linux box with kernel 2.2.16-raid and most updated libs and so. Compiling went fine, but execution is a problem: trace /opt/icecast-1.3.9/bin/icecast ... time(NULL) = 984369110 rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {0x804ae90, [], SA_RESTART|0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x804aed0, [], SA_RESTART|0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x804aed0, [], SA_RESTART|0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGCHLD, {0x804ae50, [], SA_RESTART|0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_IGN}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 time(NULL) = 984369111 time(NULL) = 984369111 time(NULL) = 984369111 time(NULL) = 984369111 access("/opt/icecast-1.3.9/conf/icecast.conf", R_OK) = 0 time(NULL) = 984369111 open("/opt/icecast-1.3.9/conf/icecast.conf", O_RDONLY) = 3 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ I used the config files of the previos version Some hints... Alexander Newald -- Alexander Newald Internet presentation & Network solution Wunstorfer Stra?e 72 30453 Hannover - Germany Information: http://www.newald.de/isp --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mfaurot at atww.org Mon Mar 12 04:41:35 2001 From: mfaurot at atww.org (Michael Faurot) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:41:35 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.9 In-Reply-To: <[icecast] icecast 1.3.9> Message-ID: <200103120441.f2C4fZ225820@phzzzt.atww.net> Alexander Newald wrote: : Compiling went fine, but execution is a problem: [...] : --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- : +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ [...] : I used the config files of the previos version : Some hints... Same situation here (also used previous configuration file from v1.3.8beta). RedHat v6.X, kernel 2.2.17 (with RedHat's patches). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael | mfaurot | Earth Destroyed by Solar Flare -- film clips at eleven. Faurot | atww.net | --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon Mar 12 06:15:41 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:15:41 -0800 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.9 In-Reply-To: <200103120441.f2C4fZ225820@phzzzt.atww.net> Message-ID: <20010311221541.G31941@tk421.icecast.org> > : Compiling went fine, but execution is a problem: > [...] > : --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- > : +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > [...] > : I used the config files of the previos version > : Some hints... > > Same situation here (also used previous configuration file from > v1.3.8beta). RedHat v6.X, kernel 2.2.17 (with RedHat's patches). A piece of new code which should only get included on older systems was getting compiled in anyway. That's been fixed. new tarballs and rpms are on the site (same version number, but the rpms have -2 now). jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tayers at bridge.com Mon Mar 12 13:53:57 2001 From: tayers at bridge.com (Tim Ayers) Date: 12 Mar 2001 07:53:57 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Crypted Passwords Message-ID: The FAQ for icecast 1.3.7 and 1.3.9 contains the following entry: Q13: What's the story with crypted passwords? A13: Normally, icecast and shoutcast servers keep the passwords uncrypted, either in a configfile, or specified on the command line. This is pretty poor security. Newer versions of icecast provide a configuration option (--with-crypt). With this option, then the passwords in the configuration file (icecast.conf) and the ones specified on the command line, should be crypted. To produce these crypted passwords, use the mkpasswd program distributed with icecast. Be careful in the configuration file not to leave any junk chars after the passwords. But I don't find a "mkpasswd" anywhere? Where do I get it? Thanks. Hope you have a very nice day, :-) Tim Ayers (tayers at bridge.com) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Mon Mar 12 16:26:55 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:26:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok, is this possible: I want to have a 128k and a 24k stream of a particualr audio program, plugged into the line in of my Ensoniq AudioPCI 128 (es1370 chipset) Is there any way to do this with just one soundcard, or do I need two? Thanks Scott W --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Mon Mar 12 16:41:22 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:41:22 -0800 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007b01c0ab13$46090b20$6800000a@billnew> Works just fine - though it might not be documented (seems like this info was dropped from the sample liveice.cfg file in the later distributions). Basically, at the end of liveice.cfg add the line: ENCODER_STREAM_SET 1 then define the values that would be different on the 2nd stream, ie: NAME Scott's 24kb/s stream SERVER xxxx.yyy.com PORT 80xx PASSWORD (if different than 128k) BITRATE 24000 SAMPLE_RATE 16000 MONO For some reason, I've found that it's better to do the higher-bitrate stream in the main config, & add the lower-bitrate stream. I've gotten 3 streams to work, but not often or for very long. If I want to do 3 or 4 streams I use 2 cards. You'll probably also want to come up with some kind of keepalive. A problem with that is that liveice can lose connection with the server, and in fact stop encoding, but still show up as a running process (as will lame). I have a keepalive that polls the Icecast (or Shoutcast) server as to whether *it* thinks the stream is connected and then (important) kills all icecast *and* lame processes and restarts. Seems to work better than anything else I've come up with, though I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. Good Luck! bg --- Bill Goldsmith www.kpig.com www.radioparadise.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Weingartner To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:26 AM Subject: [icecast] liveice Question > Ok, is this possible: I want to have a 128k and a 24k stream of a > particualr audio program, plugged into the line in of my Ensoniq AudioPCI > 128 (es1370 chipset) Is there any way to do this with just one soundcard, > or do I need two? > > Thanks > > Scott W > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Mon Mar 12 17:34:37 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:34:37 -0800 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3AAD08AD.BC303DA1@myplay.com> Scott Weingartner wrote: > > Ok, is this possible: I want to have a 128k and a 24k stream of a > particualr audio program, plugged into the line in of my Ensoniq AudioPCI > 128 (es1370 chipset) Is there any way to do this with just one soundcard, > or do I need two? yep it's relatively easy - just set up one stream in the config file, then use the ENCODER_STREAM_SET 1 directive to configure a second stream and followign that add the extra parameters you want. (i.e. follow the stream definition with commands to set the bitrate, sample rate, stream name etc). -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Mon Mar 12 17:12:00 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:12:00 +0100 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: <[icecast] liveice Question> Message-ID: <20010312171142.6395B18D029@motherfish.xiph.org> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:26:55 -0600 (CST), Scott Weingartner wrote: >Ok, is this possible: I want to have a 128k and a 24k stream of a >particualr audio program, plugged into the line in of my Ensoniq AudioPCI >128 (es1370 chipset) Is there any way to do this with just one soundcard, >or do I need two? I don't understand what you want to do. encoding the line-in input in to different bitrates for broadcasting? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Mon Mar 12 18:16:25 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:16:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: <007b01c0ab13$46090b20$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: Thanks William and Scott, I appreciate the help.. Liveice and Icecast Rock! Ive had one stream running, non stop @ 128k for over 60 hours without a reset, restart, or a reload of anything.. Is this par for the course? And about that keepalive script.. Would you (or someone) be willing to send me a sample so as I change whats needed and implement it? Thanks a bunch! Scott W. On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, William Goldsmith wrote: > Works just fine - though it might not be documented (seems like this info > was dropped from the sample liveice.cfg file in the later distributions). > Basically, at the end of liveice.cfg add the line: > > ENCODER_STREAM_SET 1 > > then define the values that would be different on the 2nd stream, ie: > > NAME Scott's 24kb/s stream > SERVER xxxx.yyy.com > PORT 80xx > PASSWORD (if different than 128k) > BITRATE 24000 > SAMPLE_RATE 16000 > MONO > > For some reason, I've found that it's better to do the higher-bitrate stream > in the main config, & add the lower-bitrate stream. I've gotten 3 streams > to work, but not often or for very long. If I want to do 3 or 4 streams I > use 2 cards. > > You'll probably also want to come up with some kind of keepalive. A problem > with that is that liveice can lose connection with the server, and in fact > stop encoding, but still show up as a running process (as will lame). I > have a keepalive that polls the Icecast (or Shoutcast) server as to whether > *it* thinks the stream is connected and then (important) kills all icecast > *and* lame processes and restarts. Seems to work better than anything else > I've come up with, though I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. > > Good Luck! > bg > --- > Bill Goldsmith > www.kpig.com > www.radioparadise.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at arkena.com Mon Mar 12 18:41:35 2001 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:35 +0100 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010312194135.A2051@wintherstill.capkirk.dk> Hey On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:16:25PM -0600, Scott Weingartner wrote: > > Ive had one stream running, non stop @ 128k for over 60 hours without a > reset, restart, or a reload of anything.. Is this par for the course? Hmm i wonder if liveice would be that unstable if streaming locally to a icecastserver? Scott any thoughts on this? -- Thomas Kirk Thomas at arkena.com http://www.arkena.com WinNT error 002: Out of memory - you have only 536,870,912 bytes of free RAM. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Mon Mar 12 20:11:24 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:11:24 -0800 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: <20010312194135.A2051@wintherstill.capkirk.dk> Message-ID: <3AAD2D6C.81512767@myplay.com> Usually it's much more stable going to a local machine, fewer thigns to break mean fewer breakdowns ;-) I have had the client run for over a week without trouble, so it is possible. -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mfaurot at atww.org Mon Mar 12 19:45:57 2001 From: mfaurot at atww.org (Michael Faurot) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:45:57 -0500 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.9 In-Reply-To: <984385971.31150@phzzzt.atww.org> Message-ID: <200103121945.f2CJjvd21639@phzzzt.atww.net> : A piece of new code which should only get included on older systems was : getting compiled in anyway. That's been fixed. new tarballs and rpms : are on the site (same version number, but the rpms have -2 now). That seems to have done the trick. Thanks. BTW, is CVS the only way to get libshout? I didn't see a link for it at http://www.icecast.org/download.html. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael | mfaurot | Piece of cake! Faurot | atww.net | -- G.S. Koblas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoirand at netcourrier.com Mon Mar 12 21:24:53 2001 From: tgoirand at netcourrier.com (Thomas Goirand) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:24:53 +0100 Subject: [icecast] icecast 2 In-Reply-To: <20010311220536.48E8718D018@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: Sorry i compiled again and it seems to working but it is in a debug level. The config file doesn't work but it must be a probleme with libxml2. How can i do to run icecast in the background ? It's working on linuxppc too, it's bad there's no binary of bitkeeper for this distrib. >On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:59:58 +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >>I tried to install icecast 2 in beta version on a debian. >>Installation was ok but when i launch icecast, it shows on output the >>configuration file in xml and exit with error. > >compiled the sources from yesterday on debian testing. works. what >error message do you get? > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- T o m --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From david at neongoat.com Tue Mar 13 00:17:33 2001 From: david at neongoat.com (David Parker) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:17:33 -0800 Subject: [icecast] liveice Question In-Reply-To: <007b01c0ab13$46090b20$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: <005001c0ab53$008008c0$1276a8c0@ruckus> > You'll probably also want to come up with some kind of keepalive. A problem > with that is that liveice can lose connection with the server, and in fact > stop encoding, but still show up as a running process (as will lame). I > have a keepalive that polls the Icecast (or Shoutcast) server as to whether > *it* thinks the stream is connected and then (important) kills all icecast > *and* lame processes and restarts. Seems to work better than anything else > I've come up with, though I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. I cooked up this little script about a week ago due to sudden network problems (before then, liveice was transmitting to a non-local icecast server without any problem for months at a time). It runs once a minute from cron. Hopefully this will be a helpful example. Once I find the time, probably in a couple weeks, I think I'm going to work on the lightweight liveice2.c posted a while back and make it more fault tolerant and have it support streaming to multiple icecast servers (one for the intranet, one for the internet). David ------- david at neongoat.com www.neongoat.com PGP Key ID/Fingerprint: 0xF90FFFE5 / F362 51F7 6D51 85EB AF68 75B9 D29B 1AFC F90F FFE5 -------
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What I have is: Apache 1.3.12-25 Icecast 1.3.7 IPC-SysV 1.03 MP3-Info 0.91 Proc-ProcessTable 0.29 Storable 1.0.10 Webplay 0.95b Directory structure is: /var/www/cgi-bin webplay's cgis /html webplay.html /usr/local/bin gettrak mkwebplay_dir mkwebplay_id3 repo_cleaner.pl /usr/local/icecast Icecast installation /home/ftp MP3 file library /var/webplay/ webplay_cache id3_cache.db Also under /home/ftp /MUS100 /tpahel MP3's for class I have run the mkwebplay_dir program to create the webplay_cache file, and it does find it. Also the playlist shows in the webplay web interface, but it doesn't play from the the client side. Also Icecast I think is configured correctly as I can stream music through it from WinAmp with Shoutcast plugin. Thanks, Ben --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From xiphmont at xiph.org Tue Mar 13 01:30:00 2001 From: xiphmont at xiph.org (Monty) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:30:00 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Forum Message-ID: <20010312173000.L334@BloopFish.xiph.org> Hi, I had to forward this because a bug in the list antispam filter (my fault) accidentally culled it. ----- Forwarded message from owner-icecast at xiph.org ----- To: IceCast mailinglist Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Why is the Support Forum oh www.icecast.oeg down? ~~ Med v?nliga h?lsningar, Patrik Lindahl mailto:ramzeus at home.se ----- End forwarded message ----- (As an answer, it was an unrelated outage a few hops out on the net) Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From xiphmont at xiph.org Tue Mar 13 01:37:24 2001 From: xiphmont at xiph.org (Monty) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:37:24 -0800 Subject: [icecast] unable to relay push Message-ID: <20010312173724.O334@BloopFish.xiph.org> ----- Forwarded message from owner-icecast at xiph.org ----- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:03:04 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Weingartner To: Icecast List Subject: [icecast] unable to relay push In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Sorry about all the questions, but I am unable to relay push anything.. Whenever i try, icecast coredumps.. I can relay pull fine, but any push's make the server dump core.. What am i doing wrong? Scott ----- End forwarded message ----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From xiphmont at xiph.org Tue Mar 13 01:38:13 2001 From: xiphmont at xiph.org (Monty) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:38:13 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? Message-ID: <20010312173813.P334@BloopFish.xiph.org> ----- Forwarded message from owner-icecast at xiph.org ----- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:46:10 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Weingartner To: Icecast List Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) I know this is the icecast list and all, but in addition to icecast, im also using shoutcast.. Ive got one icecast server set up, and I was HOPEING to relay certain streams off the icecast server with the shoutcast one.. But I cant seem to make it relay diffrent mountpoints on the icecast server.. Does anyone know how to make a shoutcast server relay a stream at (for example) http://ice.stream.com:8000/live128 ??? The only way i can get shoutcast to relay anything is to leave off the mountpoint.. but then I cant relay seperate streams... getting support from nullsoft is like getting blood out of a rock.. ive sent several emails with no response.. Unlike this wonderfull icecast list :) Thanks again! Scott W ----- End forwarded message ----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bhurley at mediaone.net Tue Mar 13 02:01:40 2001 From: bhurley at mediaone.net (Brian Hurley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:01:40 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? In-Reply-To: <20010312173813.P334@BloopFish.xiph.org> Message-ID: <009201c0ab61$8b636be0$32010a0a@pc> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Scott, I run a shoutcast server that uses relays. Shoutcast doesn't do anything with mount points, to my knowledge. You connect using ip:port format only. Feel free to email me off list with any questions you've got. You might also try the shoutcast discussion list, which is where its really supported. The sign up is on the shoutcast page. www.shoutclub.com also has some info. Brian Hurley Detroit Industrial Underground www.detroitindustrial.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monty" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? - ----- Forwarded message from owner-icecast at xiph.org ----- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:46:10 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Weingartner To: Icecast List Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) I know this is the icecast list and all, but in addition to icecast, im also using shoutcast.. Ive got one icecast server set up, and I was HOPEING to relay certain streams off the icecast server with the shoutcast one.. But I cant seem to make it relay diffrent mountpoints on the icecast server.. Does anyone know how to make a shoutcast server relay a stream at (for example) http://ice.stream.com:8000/live128 ??? The only way i can get shoutcast to relay anything is to leave off the mountpoint.. but then I cant relay seperate streams... getting support from nullsoft is like getting blood out of a rock.. ive sent several emails with no response.. Unlike this wonderfull icecast list :) Thanks again! Scott W -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOq1/gipzzEsaoSJHEQId/gCdEl4y95HGevriHd9w/wNvf4ykpcoAoNkG cABCg4bCkFnKkjly7tqgzrwr =N79Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Tue Mar 13 02:03:55 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:03:55 -0500 Subject: [icecast] x-audiocast etc. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010312205726.00c85ee0@216.200.176.7> Hmm.. just switched back to icecast hoping that 1.3.9 would have fixed some of the bugs I was running into, such as icecast gobbling up more and more memory until it would tank around 200M or so (in a box with 256) if left running a few days, and got some general questions for anyone in-the-know. ;) 1. Is there a definitive list of what players on what platforms support the x-audiocast headers? On windows I've tried winamp, freeamp, and sonique.. none of them display the currently playing song title, although icecast is getting it just fine. Sonique even displayes the "Genre" header correctly.. just not the song title. I'm sourcing from winamp 2.72, Shoutcast Source DSP 1.8.0. 2. Is the icy header hack for song titles going to be fixed any time soon, or ever? Virtues of x-audiocast aside, I'd like to see some kind of backwards compatibility.. when sc_serv is the server, it manages to stream the titles to the players fine.. whenever I enable this stuff in icecast, the playback goes totally berserk.. screeching, hissing, popping, and generally going out of sync all over the place. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Tue Mar 13 06:05:12 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:05:12 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line Message-ID: <3AADB898.D2C3FDD2@bright.net> Greetings: I have a streaming Vorbis program on-line now at: http://64.108.112.135:8000/shouter.ogg if anyone would like to test it. I'm using Icecast 2. Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Mar 13 05:52:21 2001 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dean @ Home) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:52:21 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AADB898.D2C3FDD2@bright.net> Message-ID: <000801c0ab81$c5a91fa0$0302a8c0@beerapalooza> Just tried it, crashed WinAmp bad! I just grabbed the Vorbis plugin for WinAmp, it popped up a little banner saying ti was requesting /shouter.ogg, then the CPU started climbing until it pegged at 100%, machine almost froze until I finally was able to kill WinAmp. Not sure why, but that's what happened here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Phillips" To: "Icecast Mail" Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:05 PM Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line > Greetings: > > I have a streaming Vorbis program on-line now at: > > http://64.108.112.135:8000/shouter.ogg > > if anyone would like to test it. I'm using Icecast 2. > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From louisaq at arc.corp.mot.com Tue Mar 13 05:59:18 2001 From: louisaq at arc.corp.mot.com (Louisa Quartermaine) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:59:18 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast and rtp Message-ID: <3AADB736.32D1709@arc.corp.mot.com> I have managed to get icecast streaming to freeamp on another computer, using http, but does icecast support rtp streaming of mp3 files? Is there any online documentation about icecast streaming using rtp? Also, is there any freeamp manual documentation online? Finding this documentation is really difficult!! Thanks Louisa --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Tue Mar 13 06:36:49 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:36:49 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <000801c0ab81$c5a91fa0$0302a8c0@beerapalooza> Message-ID: <3AADC001.78700752@bright.net> Greetings: Ouch, that's not good. I can tap into the stream just fine with 'xmms http://64.108.112.135:8000/shouter.ogg' but not by clicking on the same address as a link. More debugging ahead... ;) Btw, I've restarted the stream. Thanks for the report ! Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net "Dean @ Home" wrote: > > Just tried it, crashed WinAmp bad! I just grabbed the Vorbis plugin for > WinAmp, it popped up a little banner saying ti was requesting /shouter.ogg, > then the CPU started climbing until it pegged at 100%, machine almost froze > until I finally was able to kill WinAmp. Not sure why, but that's what > happened here. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Phillips" > To: "Icecast Mail" > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:05 PM > Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line > > > Greetings: > > > > I have a streaming Vorbis program on-line now at: > > > > http://64.108.112.135:8000/shouter.ogg > > > > if anyone would like to test it. I'm using Icecast 2. > > > > Best regards, > > > > == Dave Phillips > > > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 13 06:25:01 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:25:01 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Icecast and rtp In-Reply-To: <3AADB736.32D1709@arc.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: <20010312222501.W31941@tk421.icecast.org> > I have managed to get icecast streaming to freeamp on another computer, > using http, but does icecast support rtp streaming of mp3 files? > Is there any online documentation about icecast streaming using rtp? > Also, is there any freeamp manual documentation online? > Finding this documentation is really difficult!! Icecast does not currently support rtp streaming. We're planning to at some point, but haven't gotten there yet. We are however defining RTP payloads for Vorbis right now, and working to finalize exactly how it would work. Freeamp documentation, if there is any, will be at www.freeamp.org, or in the freeamp cvs tree. The mp3 payload format they use is I believe the one documented at www.live.com. Otherwise, you should search for the RTP payload format on any site that searches RFC's, and there are several standards (and several drafts) disucssing rtp payloads of mpeg data. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Tue Mar 13 07:06:11 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:06:11 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AADC001.78700752@bright.net> Message-ID: <3AADC6E3.AB33DF9@bright.net> Greetings: Okay, it's up again at http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg. I'm just going to let it run through the playlist one time. Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From reed at reedmedia.net Tue Mar 13 07:17:55 2001 From: reed at reedmedia.net (Jeremy C. Reed) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:17:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [vorbis] Re: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AADC6E3.AB33DF9@bright.net> Message-ID: I listened to your stream. Interesting. It is something I want to learn how to do. The quality sounded good; but then again I didn't understand what I was listening to so maybe it wasn't good. It died with a stream error: rainier:~$ ogg123 -v http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg dlerror: (null) dlerror: (null) HTTP Headers: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: application/x-ogg ice-bitrate: 0 ice-name: no name ice-public: 0 Device: OSS audio driver output Author: Aaron Holtzman Comments: Outputs audio to the Open Sound System driver. Title: The Odi Mix Artist: DLP Description: transformations on an epigram by Catullus and a fragment of a Gregorian chant Genre: electroacoustic Date: 1996 Location: Findlay OH USA Copyright dlpmuzeek Bitstream is 2 channel, 44100Hz Encoded by: Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 W: Stream error Time: 00:09.92 [-2:-20.92] of -2:-11.00, Bitrate: 108.9 Done. *Then my ogg123 crashed: rainier:~$ ogg123 -v http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg dlerror: (null) dlerror: (null) HTTP Headers: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: application/x-ogg ice-bitrate: 0 ice-name: no name ice-public: 0 E: input not an Ogg Vorbis audio stream. Segmentation fault (core dumped) *The third time, it had an error again: HTTP/1.0 200 OK Content-Type: application/x-ogg ice-bitrate: 0 ice-name: no name ice-public: 0 Device: OSS audio driver output Author: Aaron Holtzman Comments: Outputs audio to the Open Sound System driver. Title: The Theory And Practice Artist: DLP Description: transformations on readings from the t'ai chi classics Genre: electroacoustic Date: 1998 Location: Findlay OH USA Copyright dlpmuzeek Bitstream is 2 channel, 44100Hz Encoded by: Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 W: Stream error Time: 00:04.88 [-2:-15.88] of -2:-11.00, Bitrate: 154.3 Done. *The fourth time it had this Stream error, but it continued to play. The music/audio was very choppy -- but maybe this was just this particular music style. (NOTE: the "dlerror:" parts are from my own libao library testing.) Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Tue Mar 13 08:00:15 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:00:15 -0500 Subject: [vorbis] Re: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3AADD38F.38CD45E6@bright.net> "Jeremy C. Reed" wrote: > I listened to your stream. Interesting. It is something I want to learn > how to do. The quality sounded good; but then again I didn't understand > what I was listening to so maybe it wasn't good. I'll make a set of Ogg files from more recognizable material tomorrow, that should help. The stuff I played tonight was a little weird, I admit... > It died with a stream error: > [snip] > W: Stream error > Time: 00:09.92 [-2:-20.92] of -2:-11.00, Bitrate: 108.9 > Done. > > *Then my ogg123 crashed: Jack Moffitt suggested that ogg123 is buggy with Vorbis streams. I've been testing with XMMS, the most recent CVS versions. The OggVorbis plugin is up-to-date with Vorbis 1.0 beta4. > E: input not an Ogg Vorbis audio stream. > Segmentation fault (core dumped) Weird... > *The third time, it had an error again: > [snip] > W: Stream error > Time: 00:04.88 [-2:-15.88] of -2:-11.00, Bitrate: 154.3 > Done. More weirdness...Well, I assume Jack Moffitt is reading this exchange so he'll probably start wondering about all this too... > *The fourth time it had this Stream error, but it continued to play. The > music/audio was very choppy -- but maybe this was just this particular > music style. Might have been the piece. So you logged in four consecutive times, right ? I watched your login, but I didn't have the debug output turned on for the streamer. Thanks for tuning in, Jeremy ! Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vikas98 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 07:44:00 2001 From: vikas98 at hotmail.com (Vikas Gupta) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:44:00 Subject: [icecast] icecast directory, songnames Message-ID: I have setup a stream running icecast 1.3.7 and liveice. I would like lto list my stream in the icecast directory, but I dont want the song being played to show up in the dir listing. How can I suppress this? Thanks, vikas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hhahn at gilman.dhs.org Tue Mar 13 08:15:24 2001 From: hhahn at gilman.dhs.org (Harry Hahn) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:15:24 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, I'm struggling with getting my stream at the various directory services out there. Here are my experiences with icecast up to and including 1.3.9, which I installed today. I've had the same problems with previous versions, dating back to when I begain using icecast last July. My icecast.conf contains the following lines: icydir yp.shoutcast.com directory yp.icecast.org touch_freq 25 * yp.shoutcast.com- from following this list, I get the impression icecast flat-out doesn't work with this directory. Can any one confirm? Here's the log entry from icecast.log: [12/Mar/2001:22:02:23] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_add([yp.shoutcast.com:80]) failed... directory server error #3... (retry in 1402 seconds) * yp.icecast.org: you would think this should work, and the log entry appears to indicate success, but I find my stream is never actually listed! I get something like this every few minutes: [12/Mar/2001:23:51:49] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80 ]) completed...server id = 69 When I go to yp.icecast.org and try to find my stream using the search, I get nothing. The other services listed in icecast.conf.dist also fail, with the same error as with yp.shoutcast.com above. I've spent quite a lot of site building up the site and stream and it's depressing that no one can find it. Can anyone provide me with a clue on why my stream fails to get listed on yp.icecast.org? Are there other directory services out there I could try? Thanks, Harry --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Tue Mar 13 09:45:18 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:45:18 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <000801c0ab81$c5a91fa0$0302a8c0@beerapalooza> Message-ID: <20010313105017.C5D8F18D003@motherfish.xiph.org> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:52:21 -0800, Dean @ Home wrote: >Just tried it, crashed WinAmp bad! I just grabbed the Vorbis plugin for >WinAmp, it popped up a little banner saying ti was requesting /shouter.ogg, >then the CPU started climbing until it pegged at 100%, machine almost froze >until I finally was able to kill WinAmp. Not sure why, but that's what >happened here. Had the same problems and it's a bug in the winamp plugin http streaming code. Don't know if there is a fix for this. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Tue Mar 13 12:38:02 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:38:02 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <000801c0ab81$c5a91fa0$0302a8c0@beerapalooza> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010313233802.422f7910@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 09:52 PM 3/12/01 -0800, you wrote: >Just tried it, crashed WinAmp bad! I just grabbed the Vorbis plugin for >WinAmp, it popped up a little banner saying ti was requesting /shouter.ogg, >then the CPU started climbing until it pegged at 100%, machine almost froze >until I finally was able to kill WinAmp. Not sure why, but that's what >happened here. The winamp vorbis streaming code is known to be extremely buggy and unreliable. Hopefully that'll be fixed in the near future - for now, the only good windows programs for vorbis streaming are freeamp (need current version, the last release had bugs), and apparently sonique (I haven't used it recently though). Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Tue Mar 13 14:53:14 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 06:53:14 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Anyone Know Shoutcast? In-Reply-To: <009201c0ab61$8b636be0$32010a0a@pc> Message-ID: <00cf01c0abcd$552976c0$6800000a@billnew> If you want to relay Icecast streams with a shoutcast server, you'll need to run a separate Icecast instance for each stream (each on its own port, of course). Mount points are an x-audiocast thing, which Shoutcast doesn't understand. -bg > I run a shoutcast server that uses relays. Shoutcast doesn't do > anything with mount points, to my knowledge. You connect using > ip:port format only. Feel free to email me off list with any > questions you've got. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Tue Mar 13 16:50:07 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:50:07 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now Message-ID: <3AAE4FBF.C9B83468@bright.net> Greetings: If you're using the latest XMMS (CVS preferably), FreeAmp, Sonique (?), or ogg123 (maybe), please check out this URL for a Vorbis playlist stream: http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg The playlist is lengthy, and I've set it to repeat three times, so it will be on-line for a while. Please let me know how well or badly the stream was received, thanks. Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sollivierre at enphourell.com Tue Mar 13 18:50:43 2001 From: sollivierre at enphourell.com (Shaun Ollivierre) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:50:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: <3AAE4FBF.C9B83468@bright.net> Message-ID: why am i on this mailing list? - ----- Shaun Ollivierre Dream Developments/EHI shaun at enphourell.com On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Dave Phillips wrote: > Greetings: > > If you're using the latest XMMS (CVS preferably), FreeAmp, Sonique > (?), or ogg123 (maybe), please check out this URL for a Vorbis playlist > stream: > > http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg > > The playlist is lengthy, and I've set it to repeat three times, so it > will be on-line for a while. Please let me know how well or badly the > stream was received, thanks. > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Tue Mar 13 20:18:41 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:18:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1163.209.122.226.89.984514721.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> > why am i on this mailing list? Only you have the answer to that question! L > > - > ----- > Shaun Ollivierre > Dream Developments/EHI >shaun at enphourell.com > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From br1 at subnet.at Tue Mar 13 21:54:36 2001 From: br1 at subnet.at (Bruno Randolf) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:54:36 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: <3AAE4FBF.C9B83468@bright.net> Message-ID: freeamp and sonique both crashed on win2000 hope this is interesting... regards, br1 |- | subnet | network for media, art and experiment |- | http://www.subnet.at/ |- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Dave Phillips > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:50 PM > To: Vorbis Mail; Icecast Mail; Jack Moffitt > Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now > > > Greetings: > > If you're using the latest XMMS (CVS preferably), FreeAmp, Sonique > (?), or ogg123 (maybe), please check out this URL for a Vorbis playlist > stream: > > http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg > > The playlist is lengthy, and I've set it to repeat three times, so it > will be on-line for a while. Please let me know how well or badly the > stream was received, thanks. > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From k_myers at kyxpyx.com Tue Mar 13 22:15:42 2001 From: k_myers at kyxpyx.com (Kelly Lee Myers) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:15:42 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000b01c0ac0b$2519a7f0$a0727118@lithium> So if both freeamp and sonique are both toasting on win32, then what is the status of the winamp plug? Last time I tried it it went kablewy. Lithium... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruno Randolf" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: RE: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now > freeamp and sonique both crashed on win2000 > > hope this is interesting... > > regards, > br1 > > |- > | subnet > | network for media, art and experiment > |- > | http://www.subnet.at/ > |- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > > Dave Phillips > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:50 PM > > To: Vorbis Mail; Icecast Mail; Jack Moffitt > > Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now > > > > > > Greetings: > > > > If you're using the latest XMMS (CVS preferably), FreeAmp, Sonique > > (?), or ogg123 (maybe), please check out this URL for a Vorbis playlist > > stream: > > > > http://64.108.112.34:8000/shouter.ogg > > > > The playlist is lengthy, and I've set it to repeat three times, so it > > will be on-line for a while. Please let me know how well or badly the > > stream was received, thanks. > > > > Best regards, > > > > == Dave Phillips > > > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Wed Mar 14 07:48:11 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:48:11 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010314184811.4210fa10@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 10:54 PM 3/13/01 +0100, you wrote: >freeamp and sonique both crashed on win2000 Update freeamp. There were streaming bugs until last week. Not sure about sonique. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From br1 at subnet.at Wed Mar 14 09:51:39 2001 From: br1 at subnet.at (Bruno Randolf) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:51:39 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010314184811.4210fa10@mail.labyrinth.net.au> Message-ID: i used freeamp v2.1, version of its vorbis and http componentes are 2.1.1.4 and sonique 1.9. is the test stream still up? br1 |- | subnet | network for media, art and experiment |- | http://www.subnet.at/ |- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Michael Smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:48 AM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Vorbis stream up now > > > At 10:54 PM 3/13/01 +0100, you wrote: > >freeamp and sonique both crashed on win2000 > > Update freeamp. There were streaming bugs until last week. > Not sure about sonique. > > Michael > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Wed Mar 14 15:16:50 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:16:50 -0500 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream Message-ID: <3AAF8B62.C0D8E95D@bright.net> Greetings: Yes, I've placed another test stream on-line. Thanks to the feedback from members of this list, I've taken a few extra steps. 1) According to DSLReports, my uplink today is 137 kbps. It may actually be a little faster, they say that Netscape's reporting is skewed (and I use Netscape). 2) Thus, I've prepared a set of Ogg files encoded with -b 24 to fit my available bandwidth. They don't sound very good (compared to the higher-quality defaults), but my uplink bandwidth won't allow much better. 3) And I've limited the number of clients to 4 in conf/icecast.xml. I hope these preparations will help make and maintain some lower-rate connections. The URL is now: http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.ogg Again, please let me know (via this list) how well or badly the stream comes through. The music is just a bunch of blues songs I recorded some years ago, but it's more recognizable as music than what I had up yesterday. :) Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Wed Mar 14 15:23:03 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:23:03 -0500 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream In-Reply-To: <3AAF8B62.C0D8E95D@bright.net> Message-ID: <3AAF8CD7.F7ED75B3@bright.net> Greetings: Rats. The Ogg files are still reading as encoded at between 90 - 110 kbps, which will still effectively limit me to a single connection. 'man oggenc' says the '-b' switch was okay. I set it to -b 24 for the encoding, did I forget to do something else during the process ?? Aha...The Vorbis FAQ says I can't currently go that low...so what's the lower limit on Ogg encoding in beta4 ? Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From maarten.stolte at veronica.nl Wed Mar 14 14:55:09 2001 From: maarten.stolte at veronica.nl (Maarten Stolte) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:55:09 +0100 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream In-Reply-To: <3AAF8B62.C0D8E95D@bright.net> Message-ID: Hi, i tuned in, with freeamp for windows, version 2.1.0 on windows 98se, it buffers, shows it's a 24kbps stream, but doesn't start to play. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > Dave Phillips > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 4:17 PM > To: Icecast Mail; Vorbis Mail > Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream > > > Greetings: > > Yes, I've placed another test stream on-line. Thanks to the feedback > from members of this list, I've taken a few extra steps. > > 1) According to DSLReports, my uplink today is 137 kbps. It may > actually be a little faster, they say that Netscape's reporting is > skewed (and I use Netscape). > > 2) Thus, I've prepared a set of Ogg files encoded with -b 24 to fit > my available bandwidth. They don't sound very good (compared to the > higher-quality defaults), but my uplink bandwidth won't allow much > better. > > 3) And I've limited the number of clients to 4 in conf/icecast.xml. > > I hope these preparations will help make and maintain some lower-rate > connections. The URL is now: > > http://64.108.112.107:8000/shouter.ogg > > Again, please let me know (via this list) how well or badly the stream > comes through. > > The music is just a bunch of blues songs I recorded some years ago, > but it's more recognizable as music than what I had up yesterday. :) > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Wed Mar 14 23:31:07 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:31:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1897.208.37.156.21.984612667.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> I have the same problem below; does anyone know what the problem is with that and how to fix it -- I haven't seen any response to the message below .. Louis > Hello, > > I'm struggling with getting my stream at the various directory services > out there. Here are my experiences with icecast up to and including > 1.3.9, which I installed today. I've had the same problems with > previous versions, dating back to when I begain using icecast last > July. My icecast.conf contains the following lines: > > icydir yp.shoutcast.com > directory yp.icecast.org > touch_freq 25 > > * yp.shoutcast.com- from following this list, I get the impression > icecast flat-out doesn't work with this directory. Can any one confirm? > Here's the log entry from icecast.log: > > [12/Mar/2001:22:02:23] [1:Calendar Thread] > directory_add([yp.shoutcast.com:80]) failed... directory server error > #3... (retry in 1402 seconds) > > * yp.icecast.org: you would think this should work, and the log entry > appears to indicate success, but I find my stream is never actually > listed! I get something like this every few minutes: > > [12/Mar/2001:23:51:49] [1:Calendar Thread] > directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80 ]) completed...server id = 69 > > When I go to yp.icecast.org and try to find my stream using the search, > I get nothing. > > The other services listed in icecast.conf.dist also fail, with the same > error as with yp.shoutcast.com above. > > I've spent quite a lot of site building up the site and stream and it's > depressing that no one can find it. Can anyone provide me with a clue > on why my stream fails to get listed on yp.icecast.org? Are there other > directory services out there I could try? > > Thanks, > Harry > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list > will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Mar 15 00:02:00 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:02:00 +1100 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis test stream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010315110200.425a5240@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 03:55 PM 3/14/01 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >i tuned in, with freeamp for windows, version 2.1.0 on windows 98se, it >buffers, shows it's a 24kbps stream, but doesn't start to play. Once more - if you're using freeamp, and it doesn't work, you need a more recent version of freeamp. 2.1.0 doesn't exist. The latest release is 2.1.0rc6, which is also buggy. There's a link on the front page of freeamp.org to source for freeamp from _after_ the bugs were fixed. Update. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Thu Mar 15 04:31:34 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:31:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <1897.208.37.156.21.984612667.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > I have the same problem below; does anyone know what the problem is with > that and how to fix it -- I haven't seen any response to the message below > .. > > Louis > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm struggling with getting my stream at the various directory services > > out there. Here are my experiences with icecast up to and including > > 1.3.9, which I installed today. I've had the same problems with > > previous versions, dating back to when I begain using icecast last > > July. My icecast.conf contains the following lines: > > > > icydir yp.shoutcast.com > > directory yp.icecast.org > > touch_freq 25 > > > > * yp.shoutcast.com- from following this list, I get the impression > > icecast flat-out doesn't work with this directory. Can any one confirm? > > Here's the log entry from icecast.log: > > > > [12/Mar/2001:22:02:23] [1:Calendar Thread] > > directory_add([yp.shoutcast.com:80]) failed... directory server error > > #3... (retry in 1402 seconds) If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: 3: Your server sent incomplete or inappropriate data. Check your station information for invalid characters (numbers, letters and spaces are the only accepted values for most entries) and reconnect the Source plug-in to try again. once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a SHOUTcast DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as well. It should clear itself up with time > > > > * yp.icecast.org: you would think this should work, and the log entry > > appears to indicate success, but I find my stream is never actually > > listed! I get something like this every few minutes: > > > > [12/Mar/2001:23:51:49] [1:Calendar Thread] > > directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80 ]) completed...server id = 69 > > > > When I go to yp.icecast.org and try to find my stream using the search, > > I get nothing. I have the same problem here. Dont know what the deal is. > > > > The other services listed in icecast.conf.dist also fail, with the same > > error as with yp.shoutcast.com above. > > > > I've spent quite a lot of site building up the site and stream and it's > > depressing that no one can find it. Can anyone provide me with a clue > > on why my stream fails to get listed on yp.icecast.org? Are there other > > directory services out there I could try? > > > > Thanks, > > Harry Good Luck,, Scott W --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bbrunton at intcon.net Thu Mar 15 04:50:49 2001 From: bbrunton at intcon.net (Bill Brunton) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:50:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Trying to get Icecast running Message-ID: I am trying to install Icecast with liveice on a RedHat 7.0 Linux machine. I am having nothing but trouble. Here is what I see: [root at audio /root]# icecast Icecast Version 1.3.10 Initializing... Icecast comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of Icecast under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. Starting thread engine... [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Icecast Version 1.3.10 Starting.. [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Starting Admin Console Thread... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Starting main connection handler... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Listening on host audio.intcon.net... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Listening on port 8000... -> -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Listening on port 8001... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Using 'audio.intcon.net' as servername... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Server limits: 900 clients, 900 clients per source, 10 sources, 5 admins -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] WWW Admin interface accessible at http://audio.intcon.net:8000/admin -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Starting Calender Thread... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Starting UDP handler thread... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] Starting relay connector thread... -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:33] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 0] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 1 seconds] -> [13/Mar/2001:21:55:46] Accepted encoder on mountpoint /liveice from audio.intcon.net. 1 sources connected -> [13/Mar/2001:21:57:33] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 1] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 2 minutes and 1 seconds] -> [13/Mar/2001:21:59:33] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 1] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 4 minutes and 1 seconds] -> [13/Mar/2001:22:01:33] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 1] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 6 minutes and 1 seconds] -> [13/Mar/2001:22:02:45] Didn't receive data from source after 10431 tries, assuming it died... -> [13/Mar/2001:22:02:45] Lost connection to source on mount /liveice, waiting 30 seconds for timeout -> [13/Mar/2001:22:03:15] Kicking source 1 [audio.intcon.net] [Client timeout exceeded, removing source] [encoder], connected for 7 minutes and 29 seconds, 0 bytes transfered. 0 sources connected -> [13/Mar/2001:22:03:15] Kicking all 0 clients for source 1 -> [13/Mar/2001:22:03:33] [Bandwidth: 0.000000MB/s] [Sources: 0] [Clients: 0] [Admins: 1] [Uptime: 8 minutes and 1 seconds] -> After a while, the connection is dropped due to lack of data. And: [root at audio liveice]# ./liveice playlist 0 Initialising Soundcard 16Bit 32000Hz Stereo opening connection to localhost 8001 Attempting to Contact Server connection successful: forking process Liveice does not give the nice screen with the level indicators when I start it with icecast running. And: [root at audio /root]# netstat -t Active Internet connections (w/o servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 audio.intcon.net:8001 audio.intcon.net:1085 ESTABLISHED tcp 8 0 audio.intcon.net:1085 audio.intcon.net:8001 ESTABLISHED I can use lynx, and connect to /admin from the local host, but not from anywhere else. The access list is set to 1 which should allow any connections. Of course, winamp cannot connect to the server. I am at a loss as to where the problem may be. Is it liveice, or icecast that is not functioning correctly? I think I have followed the instructions. Any suggestions? Thank you. Bill bbrunton at intcon.net http://www.brunton.net http://www.intcon.net KA0SEP NNN0HQA/OK ATP CFII BE200 BE300 BE300F BE1900 BE2000 BE2000S CE500 The Internet... The place to be! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From parvez at musicurry.com Thu Mar 15 08:40:20 2001 From: parvez at musicurry.com (Parvez Lanewala) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:10:20 +0530 Subject: [icecast] Newbie with icecast/ices Message-ID: <20010315141020.A19050@musicurry.com> hi guys, I am very new to encoding and streaming mp3s. I have recently installed icecast(1.3.7) with ices(beta 5) in LAN on Linux Redhat 6.2. It works perfectly fine with a bit rate of 128 kbps in LAN but somehow when i change the bit rate of songs to 16 kbps it gets stuck in the middle, all the time 'like someone is scratching the disk'. Earlier i thought it happens because the LAN speed is too fast for a 16kbps streaming, so i tried to put it on the server, wherein i face the same problem. Is it a problem with Ices beta 5 or is it some problem with the encoding technique. Also pls. if u can suggest me which is the best way to encode mp3's for 16kbps or less than that kind of bit rate. Thanks very much in advance. Parvez -- ---------------------------- Parvez Lanewala MUSICURRY http://www.musicurry.com parvez at musicurry.com ---------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Thu Mar 15 16:48:56 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:48:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1067.216.164.222.103.984674936.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Scott, > If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: Where are these codes, in the source or somewhere on shoutcast's website? > once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: > > 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a > SHOUTcast > DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the > SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will > show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as well. > It should clear itself up with time Hmm..that sucks, so there is no way to list on Shoutcast. I guess the only solution (for non-coders) is to relay to a shoutcast server so that it lists the station on shoutcast. Any other ideas? THanks ... Louis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From maximo.monsalvo at guspamar.com.ar Thu Mar 15 21:25:56 2001 From: maximo.monsalvo at guspamar.com.ar (Maximo Monsalvo) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:25:56 -0300 Subject: [icecast] icecast /liveice /radio in live Message-ID: <21788BAC58CFD311ABD300508B2F03CD087332@GUSPAMAR01> Hi i try to transmit radio over internet i have 2 machines one whit linux an icecast server and other whit nt an winamp (plugin shout live) .The nt machine ( source ) sampling line in of soundcard and send to linux icecast server. This work find but on NT :-( Then the install liveice in the linux machine, i try to use liveice the place of winamp but when config an run the client (winamp ) this it is connected and soon one becomes disconnected and it follows by always equal why whit winamp source works and liveice no ??????????????? thanks Maximo Monsalvo Guspamar S.A Responsable Sistemas --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Thu Mar 15 22:07:42 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:07:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <1067.216.164.222.103.984674936.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > Scott, > > > If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: > > Where are these codes, in the source or somewhere on shoutcast's website? In the troubleshooting faq on the shoutcast website > > > once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: > > > > 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a > > SHOUTcast > > DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the > > SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will > > show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as well. > > It should clear itself up with time > > Hmm..that sucks, so there is no way to list on Shoutcast. I guess the only > solution (for non-coders) is to relay to a shoutcast server so that it lists > the station on shoutcast. Any other ideas? THanks ... > > Louis > Thats what i do.. just relay. Scott W --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From k_myers at kyxpyx.com Thu Mar 15 22:37:10 2001 From: k_myers at kyxpyx.com (Kelly Lee Myers) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:37:10 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c0ada0$795d3ca0$a0727118@lithium> Yeah, I got one. How about a universal listing service that has one type of listing setup, and all servers conform to that?? (ie screw yp.shoutcast.com) I am completely open to working with anyone who would like to pursue such a project, and if it is possible I will even personally put money into it. Lithium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Weingartner" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > > > Scott, > > > > > If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: > > > > Where are these codes, in the source or somewhere on shoutcast's website? > > In the troubleshooting faq on the shoutcast website > > > > > > once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: > > > > > > 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a > > > SHOUTcast > > > DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the > > > SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will > > > show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as well. > > > It should clear itself up with time > > > > Hmm..that sucks, so there is no way to list on Shoutcast. I guess the only > > solution (for non-coders) is to relay to a shoutcast server so that it lists > > the station on shoutcast. Any other ideas? THanks ... > > > > Louis > > > > > Thats what i do.. just relay. > > Scott W > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From speedwolf at door.net Fri Mar 16 01:05:19 2001 From: speedwolf at door.net (Bryan Payne) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:19 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <001001c0ada0$795d3ca0$a0727118@lithium> Message-ID: <002001c0adb5$2c485e80$199b4e3f@spacial> Just As Icecast .yp is/was open so is Audiorealm .yp listing for anyone to use. We'd love to blend all Icecast and audiorealm server listings and we are totally open to work with anyone on this to make a more open blended directory.. Thanks Kelly! Bryan Payne Spacial*Audio Solutions 806-749-4100 www.audiorealm.com bryan at audiorealm.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Lee Myers" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > Yeah, I got one. > > How about a universal listing service that has one type of listing setup, > and all servers conform to that?? > (ie screw yp.shoutcast.com) > I am completely open to working with anyone who would like to pursue such a > project, and if it is possible I will even personally put money into it. > > > Lithium > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Weingartner" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: > > > > > > Where are these codes, in the source or somewhere on shoutcast's > website? > > > > In the troubleshooting faq on the shoutcast website > > > > > > > > > once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: > > > > > > > > 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a > > > > SHOUTcast > > > > DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the > > > > SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will > > > > show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as well. > > > > It should clear itself up with time > > > > > > Hmm..that sucks, so there is no way to list on Shoutcast. I guess the > only > > > solution (for non-coders) is to relay to a shoutcast server so that it > lists > > > the station on shoutcast. Any other ideas? THanks ... > > > > > > Louis > > > > > > > > > Thats what i do.. just relay. > > > > Scott W > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Fri Mar 16 02:59:35 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:59:35 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <002001c0adb5$2c485e80$199b4e3f@spacial> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315215640.00ca54d0@64.7.7.83> I saw a post a minute ago and stupidly hit the delete button instead of reply, so no quoted response but.. You don't have to relay to a shoutcast server to get listed on yp.shoutcast.com. You probably have metadata disabled, and they won't list you without it. I know it's "experimental" in the config file, but I haven't had any problems with it since icecast 1.3.9, and my station now shows up on the shoutcast server. What really sucks is that live365 relays don't show up on there.. oh well. -Asym -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From k_myers at kyxpyx.com Fri Mar 16 02:57:51 2001 From: k_myers at kyxpyx.com (Kelly Lee Myers) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:57:51 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <002001c0adb5$2c485e80$199b4e3f@spacial> Message-ID: <001b01c0adc4$e3ff0470$a0727118@lithium> Hey Bryan. Is there a specification or code examples on-line for making this happen?? That would be great...! Kel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Payne" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > Just As Icecast .yp is/was open so is Audiorealm .yp listing for anyone to > use. > We'd love to blend all Icecast and audiorealm server listings and we are > totally open to work with anyone on this to make a more open blended > directory.. > > Thanks Kelly! > > Bryan Payne > Spacial*Audio Solutions > 806-749-4100 > www.audiorealm.com > bryan at audiorealm.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Lee Myers" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:37 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > > > > Yeah, I got one. > > > > How about a universal listing service that has one type of listing setup, > > and all servers conform to that?? > > (ie screw yp.shoutcast.com) > > I am completely open to working with anyone who would like to pursue such > a > > project, and if it is possible I will even personally put money into it. > > > > > > Lithium > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Weingartner" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting Listed > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > > > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > > > If you go look at the result codes for errors, it says this for #3: > > > > > > > > Where are these codes, in the source or somewhere on shoutcast's > > website? > > > > > > In the troubleshooting faq on the shoutcast website > > > > > > > > > > > > once you fix this.. You'll get error #404: > > > > > > > > > > 404: This typically means you're running software that isn't a > > > > > SHOUTcast > > > > > DNAS server. The only supported software for listings in the > > > > > SHOUTcast directory is the SHOUTcast DNAS. Occasionally this will > > > > > show up on servers with very very slow Internet connections as > well. > > > > > It should clear itself up with time > > > > > > > > Hmm..that sucks, so there is no way to list on Shoutcast. I guess the > > only > > > > solution (for non-coders) is to relay to a shoutcast server so that it > > lists > > > > the station on shoutcast. Any other ideas? THanks ... > > > > > > > > Louis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats what i do.. just relay. > > > > > > Scott W > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 04:22:20 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:22:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed on yp.shoutcast.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3302.208.37.156.21.984716540.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Scott, > Thats what i do.. just relay. Exactly how are you doing it, and what software are you using (shoutcast version / icecast version / what streaming software are you using)? I'm running icecast 1.3.10, shoutcast 1.8.0, and irpd 0.16 to stream. When I try to relay from shoutcast to my main icecast server, I get the following: <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [main] dns thread starting <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-name:AniAniAniAni ; icy-genre:Alternative <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:0 ; icy-url:http://hourfollowshour.org <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-irc:N/A ; icy-icq:N/A ; icy-aim:N/A <03/15/01 at 22:38:07> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak) <03/15/01 at 22:38:07> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (3) Now I see that nak 3 thingy there, so I played with the icy-name and other items, leaving many of them blank, etc, nothing seems to get rid of that message. I am pointing this shoutcast server to the icecast server to relay it...is that how you are doing it? I've also tried to stream to icecast using streamcast and I get the same results. Hmph. Louis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 04:25:52 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:25:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315215640.00ca54d0@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <3319.208.37.156.21.984716752.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Asym, What streaming program are you using? I'm using icecast 1.3.10 with meta data turned on and it doesn't want to list on yp.shoutcast.com. Can you e-mail me your icecast.conf and your streaming config file via e-mail? Thanks... Louis > I saw a post a minute ago and stupidly hit the delete button instead of > reply, so no quoted response but.. You don't have to relay to a > shoutcast server to get listed on yp.shoutcast.com. > > You probably have metadata disabled, and they won't list you without > it. I know it's "experimental" in the config file, but I haven't had > any problems with it since icecast 1.3.9, and my station now shows up > on the shoutcast server. > > What really sucks is that live365 relays don't show up on there.. oh > well. > > -Asym > > -------signature file------- > PGP Key Fingerprint: > 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 > > "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." > "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is > quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." > -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. > > http://www.freebsd.org > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve > > http://www.rfnj.org > Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz > > http://namespace.org -- http://name.space > Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list > will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Fri Mar 16 04:08:17 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:08:17 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <3319.208.37.156.21.984716752.squirrel@freakshow.returntona ture.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315230431.00ca55d0@64.7.7.83> At 23:25 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Asym, > >What streaming program are you using? I'm using icecast 1.3.10 with meta >data turned on and it doesn't want to list on yp.shoutcast.com. Can you >e-mail me your icecast.conf and your streaming config file via e-mail? >Thanks... I'm running icecast 1.3.10 on FreeBSD 3.5-Stable, and my source is Winamp 2.72 w/ Shoutcast DSP 1.8.0. If you tune in with winamp, sonique, or some other client that doesn't support x-audiocast, does it show the song titles? I'll send you my icecast config file via email (sans passwords.. ;) ) and you can look through it and see if anything odd is sticking out. -Asym -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Fri Mar 16 04:13:19 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:13:19 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315230431.00ca55d0@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315231229.00ca5d50@64.7.7.83> Instead of emailing I've copied my config up to my webserver and edited out the passwords.. http://rfnj.org/icecast.conf.txt --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 04:41:23 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:41:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315230431.00ca55d0@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <3443.208.37.156.21.984717683.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> > I'm running icecast 1.3.10 on FreeBSD 3.5-Stable, and my source is > Winamp 2.72 w/ Shoutcast DSP 1.8.0. Hmm, that may explain it, I guess the streaming source from windows is streaming the right info to icecast, and the yp.shoutcast.com likes it (after all, your streaming plugin is from the shoutcast people). Hm. I can't (and don't want to use) windows to do the streaming; would be nice if there was a linux solution that would work: linux stream -> icecast -> yp.shoutcast.com > If you tune in with winamp, sonique, or some other client that doesn't > support x-audiocast, does it show the song titles? I'll send you my > icecast config file via email (sans passwords.. ;) ) and you can look > through it and see if anything odd is sticking out. Thanks...I'll see if there is anything that stands out that I might have missed... Louis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 04:45:52 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:45:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315231229.00ca5d50@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <3486.208.37.156.21.984717952.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> "You don't have permission to access /icecast.conf.txt on this server." Hmmm...take a peak see whats the matter .. > Instead of emailing I've copied my config up to my webserver and edited > out the passwords.. > > http://rfnj.org/icecast.conf.txt > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list > will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Fri Mar 16 04:27:10 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:27:10 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <3486.208.37.156.21.984717952.squirrel@freakshow.returntona ture.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315232645.00c95e58@64.7.7.83> At 23:45 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: >"You don't have permission to access /icecast.conf.txt on this server." >Hmmm...take a peak see whats the matter .. Fixed.. sorry. Forgot to change file permissions after copying it. ;) -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 05:08:53 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:08:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315230431.00ca55d0@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <3904.208.37.156.21.984719333.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Asym, FYI - I verified that winamp -> 1.3.10 does in fact work, it lets icecast touch both yp.icecast.org and yp.shoutcast.org; hmm, I guess libshout doesn't emulate whatever shoutcast is using close enough. Arrr. My only windows box is a 233mhz and that doesn't seem to handle re-encoding/streaming very well. Louis > At 23:25 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Asym, >> >>What streaming program are you using? I'm using icecast 1.3.10 with >>meta data turned on and it doesn't want to list on yp.shoutcast.com. >>Can you e-mail me your icecast.conf and your streaming config file via >>e-mail? Thanks... > > I'm running icecast 1.3.10 on FreeBSD 3.5-Stable, and my source is > Winamp 2.72 w/ Shoutcast DSP 1.8.0. > > If you tune in with winamp, sonique, or some other client that doesn't > support x-audiocast, does it show the song titles? I'll send you my > icecast config file via email (sans passwords.. ;) ) and you can look > through it and see if anything odd is sticking out. > > -Asym > > > -------signature file------- > PGP Key Fingerprint: > 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 > > "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." > "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is > quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." > -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. > > http://www.freebsd.org > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve > > http://www.rfnj.org > Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz > > http://namespace.org -- http://name.space > Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list > will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri Mar 16 04:46:25 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:46:25 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <3904.208.37.156.21.984719333.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: <019901c0add4$0ede5e20$6800000a@billnew> I never had any problems getting my liveice-source streams to list on yp.shoutcast.com using Icecast 1.3.5b1 - though they wouldn't list with later versions. Haven't tried anything since 1.3.7 For a variety of reasons, I started using that 'other' server. But the point is that it *can* be done without resorting to using a Windows source box. -bg --- Bill Goldsmith www.kpig.com www.radioparadise.com > Asym, > > FYI - I verified that winamp -> 1.3.10 does in fact work, it lets icecast > touch both yp.icecast.org and yp.shoutcast.org; hmm, I guess libshout > doesn't emulate whatever shoutcast is using close enough. Arrr. My only > windows box is a 233mhz and that doesn't seem to handle > re-encoding/streaming very well. > > Louis > > > At 23:25 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >>Asym, > >> > >>What streaming program are you using? I'm using icecast 1.3.10 with > >>meta data turned on and it doesn't want to list on yp.shoutcast.com. > >>Can you e-mail me your icecast.conf and your streaming config file via > >>e-mail? Thanks... > > > > I'm running icecast 1.3.10 on FreeBSD 3.5-Stable, and my source is > > Winamp 2.72 w/ Shoutcast DSP 1.8.0. > > > > If you tune in with winamp, sonique, or some other client that doesn't > > support x-audiocast, does it show the song titles? I'll send you my > > icecast config file via email (sans passwords.. ;) ) and you can look > > through it and see if anything odd is sticking out. > > > > -Asym > > > > > > -------signature file------- > > PGP Key Fingerprint: > > 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 > > > > "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." > > "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is > > quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." > > -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org > > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve > > > > http://www.rfnj.org > > Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz > > > > http://namespace.org -- http://name.space > > Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in > > the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list > > will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 16 05:30:38 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:30:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <019901c0add4$0ede5e20$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: <4250.208.37.156.21.984720638.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> BG, I do recall it working in older versions, 1.3.5 sounds likely; but there are security problems with all the versions before 1.3.10. Hmm. Strange. I was just testing a stream from winamp -> icecast 1.3.10 on linux, it listed in yp.shoutcast.com; then I changed my stream back to linux (within a minute or so) using irpd, and shoutcast now is hanging onto my listing, and updating my songs. Funky. I wonder if one can trick shoutcast into listing that way (wonder if it will stay up). a couple 'touch'es have run in icecast already and it seems to have gone through successfully. cool. I would love to see a 'real' solution thou. > But the point is that it > *can* be done without resorting to using a Windows source box. So...how can it be done?? :) Louis > I never had any problems getting my liveice-source streams to list on > yp.shoutcast.com using Icecast 1.3.5b1 - though they wouldn't list with > later versions. Haven't tried anything since 1.3.7 For a variety of > reasons, I started using that 'other' server. But the point is that it > *can* be done without resorting to using a Windows source box. > > -bg > --- > Bill Goldsmith > www.kpig.com > www.radioparadise.com > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Fri Mar 16 05:50:19 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:50:19 +1000 (EST) Subject: [icecast] mount points and sourcing from winamp Message-ID: Hi: I know it's possible to listen to a stream mounted on a mountpoint using winamp. I'd like to know if it's possible to make the shoutcast DSP plugin source a stream on a mountpoint? If so, how do you do it? Does the version matter? If you can't, will plugins like oddcast do it? Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Fri Mar 16 07:53:07 2001 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (Oddsock) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:53:07 -0800 Subject: [icecast] mount points and sourcing from winamp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315235144.027a6fd8@oddsock.org> no, you can't do it with the Shoutcast DSP, and currently you can't do it with Oddcast either...but that will change soon...Shoutcast DSP will probably never support Icecast, let alone Icecast2, but Oddcast on the otherhand..... :) oddsock At 09:50 PM 3/15/2001, you wrote: >Hi: > >I know it's possible to listen to a stream mounted on a mountpoint using >winamp. I'd like to know if it's possible to make the shoutcast DSP plugin >source a stream on a mountpoint? If so, how do you do it? Does the >version matter? If you can't, will plugins like oddcast do it? > >Geoff. > > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From speedwolf at door.net Fri Mar 16 08:11:16 2001 From: speedwolf at door.net (Bryan Payne) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:11:16 -0800 Subject: [icecast] mount points and sourcing from winamp In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315235144.027a6fd8@oddsock.org> Message-ID: <009801c0adf0$ad4f8540$2a9b4e3f@spacial> The SAMcast DSP already supports this directly within the plugin, giving you options for either: SHOUTcast & ICEcast compatible servers Full IceCast x-audiocast support. Features a lower CPU usage mode... http://www.spacialaudio.com/index.html?page=plugins Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oddsock" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] mount points and sourcing from winamp > no, you can't do it with the Shoutcast DSP, and currently you can't do it > with Oddcast either...but that will change soon...Shoutcast DSP will > probably never support Icecast, let alone Icecast2, but Oddcast on the > otherhand..... :) > > oddsock > At 09:50 PM 3/15/2001, you wrote: > >Hi: > > > >I know it's possible to listen to a stream mounted on a mountpoint using > >winamp. I'd like to know if it's possible to make the shoutcast DSP plugin > >source a stream on a mountpoint? If so, how do you do it? Does the > >version matter? If you can't, will plugins like oddcast do it? > > > >Geoff. > > > > > > > >--- >8 ---- > >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Philipp at phflesch.de Fri Mar 16 08:14:43 2001 From: Philipp at phflesch.de (Philipp Flesch) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:14:43 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Create MP3-Stream via ICECAST under LINUX Message-ID: <3AB1CB73.8104FA9F@phflesch.de> Hi! Which Encoder can digialize the sound coming in via Line-In on my soundcard and mp3 it as stream via ICECAST? I was looking around a little bit but I only found windows programms creating a stream :-(( Aren't there any Linux programms? ThanX a lot and greetings from Germany! Philipp --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From parvez at musicurry.com Fri Mar 16 08:41:54 2001 From: parvez at musicurry.com (Parvez Lanewala) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:11:54 +0530 Subject: [icecast] i need help...URGENT !!! Message-ID: <20010316141154.A21868@musicurry.com> hi, i have posted earlier a few days back, i apologise for the re-post. my problem is that the moment i start using mp3 files with lesser bit rate (16kbps) it does not stream properly. it keeps getting stuck in the middle. i can stream continuously with 128 kbps files. I'm using icecast(1.3.7) with ices(beta 5) in "LAN" on Linux Redhat 6.2. The same problem occurs also on internet, when i run the same setup on the server. this help is pretty urgently required, thanks in advance. parvez --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at arkena.com Fri Mar 16 08:26:04 2001 From: thomas at arkena.com (Thomas Kirk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:26:04 +0100 Subject: [icecast] i need help...URGENT !!! In-Reply-To: <20010316141154.A21868@musicurry.com> Message-ID: <20010316092604.C678@mmstreaming.dk> Hey On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:11:54PM +0530, Parvez Lanewala wrote: > my problem is that the moment i start using mp3 files with lesser bit rate (16kbps) it does not stream properly. it keeps getting stuck in the middle. i can stream continuously with 128 kbps files. are you playing files with diffrent bitrates in the same playlist? -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk thomas at arkena.com http://www.arkena.com Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Fri Mar 16 08:39:49 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:39:49 -0500 Subject: [icecast] hmm.. metadata question Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010316033706.00c9f220@216.200.176.7> Ok, the config file says you can get chrips in your audio unless "you're careful." I thought this was mostly fixed in 1.3.9 and greater.. I got all kinds of garbage using it in 1.3.7, but have had no problems in 1.3.9 or 1.3.10 until today. Just a few minutes ago my stream started chirping and squealing.. so I had to disconnect the source and client, and reconnect them.. which seems to fix the problem. My question is.. what exactly is meant by "unless you're careful?" What should I do "carefully" to make sure this doesn't happen? FWIW, I'm using winamp 2.72 + Shoutcast DSP 1.8.0 to source from Win2k pro, the server is icecast 1.3.10 on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 375 streams - 96kbps @ 44.1khz http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From parvez at musicurry.com Fri Mar 16 10:27:13 2001 From: parvez at musicurry.com (Parvez Lanewala) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:57:13 +0530 Subject: [icecast] i need help...URGENT !!! In-Reply-To: <20010316092604.C678@mmstreaming.dk> Message-ID: <20010316155713.A19476@musicurry.com> thanks. i'm extremely sorry for the inconvenience, the encoding of files was not done properly. can someone pls. tell me a good windowsd based mp3 encoder for encoding files for bit rates as low as 16 kbps (or less) with 16 khz (or less). parvez And Then Thomas Kirk wrote ............. > Hey > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:11:54PM +0530, Parvez Lanewala wrote: > > > my problem is that the moment i start using mp3 files with lesser bit rate (16kbps) it does not stream properly. it keeps getting stuck in the middle. i can stream continuously with 128 kbps files. > > are you playing files with diffrent bitrates in the same playlist? > > > -- > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards > Thomas Kirk > thomas at arkena.com > http://www.arkena.com > > > Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too > dark to read. > -- Groucho Marx > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- ---------------------------- Parvez Lanewala MUSICURRY http://www.musicurry.com parvez at musicurry.com ---------------------------- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From k_myers at kyxpyx.com Fri Mar 16 10:04:51 2001 From: k_myers at kyxpyx.com (Kelly Lee Myers) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:04:51 -0800 Subject: [icecast] i need help...URGENT !!! In-Reply-To: <20010316155713.A19476@musicurry.com> Message-ID: <000d01c0ae00$8ab27c80$a0727118@lithium> Try wavelab 3.0 with the radium MP3 codec. that our Audio Active Studio Pro (I think that is what its called) whatever you do, don't use musicmatch. Lithium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parvez Lanewala" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] i need help...URGENT !!! > thanks. > > i'm extremely sorry for the inconvenience, the encoding of files was not done properly. can someone pls. tell me a good windowsd based mp3 encoder for encoding files for bit rates as low as 16 kbps (or less) with 16 khz (or less). > > parvez > > > And Then Thomas Kirk wrote ............. > > > Hey > > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:11:54PM +0530, Parvez Lanewala wrote: > > > > > my problem is that the moment i start using mp3 files with lesser bit rate (16kbps) it does not stream properly. it keeps getting stuck in the middle. i can stream continuously with 128 kbps files. > > > > are you playing files with diffrent bitrates in the same playlist? > > > > > > -- > > Venlig hilsen/Kind regards > > Thomas Kirk > > thomas at arkena.com > > http://www.arkena.com > > > > > > Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too > > dark to read. > > -- Groucho Marx > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > ---------------------------- > Parvez Lanewala > MUSICURRY > http://www.musicurry.com > parvez at musicurry.com > ---------------------------- > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Fri Mar 16 10:23:51 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:23:51 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Create MP3-Stream via ICECAST under LINUX In-Reply-To: <3AB1CB73.8104FA9F@phflesch.de> Message-ID: <20010316102305.9F95018D0F5@motherfish.xiph.org> Hallo Philipp >Which Encoder can digialize the sound coming in via Line-In on my soundcard >and mp3 it as stream via ICECAST? the A/D conversion does your soundcard ;) Use liveice for this. There should be a link at icecast.org. >I was looking around a little bit but I only found windows programms >creating a stream komisch, ich hatte nie ein vern?nftiges programm f?r windows gefunden und dann selbst eins geschrieben. naja, jetzt gibt es oddcast. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Fri Mar 16 14:46:43 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smoerk Dundei) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:46:43 +0100 (MET) Subject: [icecast] "live" stream online Message-ID: <17626.984754003@www26.gmx.net> hi, there is a low bitratestream available for testing. it's around 40kbps and it sounds really bad, because it's 11khz stereo :). http://ogg.radiostudio.org:8007/ostream.ogg -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri Mar 16 16:08:47 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:08:47 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed In-Reply-To: <4250.208.37.156.21.984720638.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: <023101c0ae33$61e2ea00$6800000a@billnew> > > But the point is that it > > *can* be done without resorting to using a Windows source box. > > So...how can it be done?? :) > I guess a more accurate statement is "it's worked for me in the past with a *nix source box, so it's probably possible now". :-) -bg --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Fri Mar 16 17:08:02 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:08:02 -0500 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line Message-ID: <3AB24872.9132884D@bright.net> Greetings: Another test. I've re-encoded a batch of mono 22050 Hz WAVs, average bitrate seems to hang around 30-40 kbps. Icecast.xml is set for three connects, and the URL is here: http://64.108.112.145:8000/shouter.ogg IMO, the sound quality is much better now. Again, the stream should be up for about 45 minutes or so. Please let me know how it works for you... Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vickeryj at grinnell.edu Fri Mar 16 16:08:12 2001 From: vickeryj at grinnell.edu (Josh Vickery) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:08:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AB24872.9132884D@bright.net> Message-ID: That sounds quite good, comparing it to a 24 kbp /16 khz mp3 mono mp3 stream the difference is striking. The XMMS plugin is still quite buggy though, I have to disable my MP3 plugin to get it to work right. josh On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Dave Phillips wrote: > Greetings: > > Another test. I've re-encoded a batch of mono 22050 Hz WAVs, average > bitrate seems to hang around 30-40 kbps. Icecast.xml is set for three > connects, and the URL is here: > > http://64.108.112.145:8000/shouter.ogg > > IMO, the sound quality is much better now. Again, the stream should be > up for about 45 minutes or so. Please let me know how it works for > you... > > Best regards, > > == Dave Phillips > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- Joshua Vickery Grinnell College 14-21 Grinnell IA, 50112 vickeryj at grinnell.edu --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Fri Mar 16 17:35:43 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:35:43 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AB24872.9132884D@bright.net> Message-ID: <20010316093543.G8132@tk421.icecast.org> > Another test. I've re-encoded a batch of mono 22050 Hz WAVs, average > bitrate seems to hang around 30-40 kbps. Icecast.xml is set for three > connects, and the URL is here: The connection limits are not currently implemented, but the connection pool size is. I'll be posting some basic protocol ideas soon as I think I've finally figured out how I want to handle stats and future admin functionality. Stay tuned... jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Fri Mar 16 18:07:25 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:07:25 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <20010316093543.G8132@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <3AB2565D.31DA55A1@myplay.com> > I'll be posting some basic protocol ideas soon as I think I've finally > figured out how I want to handle stats and future admin functionality. I've written a mini liveice streamer/encoder built around the vorbis library, I need to know what connection protocol the new server will work around. (I'd get the icecast 2.0 sources, but once again the icecast source control system is gettign in my way) -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri Mar 16 17:44:53 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:44:53 -0800 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <025901c0ae40$cecdaee0$6800000a@billnew> Connected to the stream just fine with the Winamp plugin & listened for about 20 min. A few dropouts & 1 disconnect - but I'm on a flaky DSL circuit this morning, so that's hardly unexpected. Winamp reported bitrates from 26-31 kb/s. The sound quality was very decent, given the bitrate. I noted a few artifacts in the 6-8 kHz range (cymbals & electric-guitar harmonics) on an electric blues cut - similar to mp3 at 32kb/s, perhaps a little better. The codec really shone on the acoustic selections. Very transparent - with markedly fewer human-voice colorations than 32k mp3. The acoustic guitar also lacked the high-end grunge you often get with mp3 compression. Overall, I'm impressed. -bg --- Bill Goldsmith www.kpig.com www.radioparadise.com > > Greetings: > > > > Another test. I've re-encoded a batch of mono 22050 Hz WAVs, average > > bitrate seems to hang around 30-40 kbps. Icecast.xml is set for three > > connects, and the URL is here: > > > > http://64.108.112.145:8000/shouter.ogg > > > > IMO, the sound quality is much better now. Again, the stream should be > > up for about 45 minutes or so. Please let me know how it works for > > you... > > > > Best regards, > > > > == Dave Phillips > > > > The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm > > The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > -- > Joshua Vickery > Grinnell College > 14-21 > Grinnell IA, 50112 > vickeryj at grinnell.edu > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri Mar 16 17:59:30 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:59:30 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AB2565D.31DA55A1@myplay.com> Message-ID: <027b01c0ae42$da512740$6800000a@billnew> Cool. Once you have something stable, I'd be happy to put up a full-time test stream on a nicely connected server. -bg > I've written a mini liveice streamer/encoder built around the vorbis > library, I need to know what connection protocol the new server will > work around. > (I'd get the icecast 2.0 sources, but once again the icecast source > control system is gettign in my way) > > -- > Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) > Streaming Media Hacker > www.myplay.com > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Fri Mar 16 17:57:45 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smoerk Dundei) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:57:45 +0100 (MET) Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AB2565D.31DA55A1@myplay.com> Message-ID: <1520.984765465@www23.gmx.net> > I've written a mini liveice streamer/encoder built around the vorbis > library, I need to know what connection protocol the new server will > work around. > (I'd get the icecast 2.0 sources, but once again the icecast source > control system is gettign in my way) it's very similar to x-audiocast: SOURCE $mountpoint ICE/1.0\n ice-password: $password\n ice-name: $name\n ice-url: $url\n ice-genre: $genre\n ice-bitrate: $bitrate\n ice-public: $public\n ice-description: $description\n\n and then transmit the ogg stream. $xxx are variables moerk -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Fri Mar 16 18:38:11 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:38:11 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <1520.984765465@www23.gmx.net> Message-ID: <3AB25D93.7C4633A4@myplay.com> > SOURCE $mountpoint ICE/1.0\n > ice-password: $password\n > ice-name: $name\n > ice-url: $url\n > ice-genre: $genre\n > ice-bitrate: $bitrate\n > ice-public: $public\n > ice-description: $description\n\n > Cool - I'll code this in right now.... There's no brains to this code right now, it just modifies the encoder example to read from teh soundcard and send to a socket. It's only half an hour's work so far, I'm now trying to get Icecast2.0 compiled - I'm getting a load of messages like this. config.c:265: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Fri Mar 16 19:03:48 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:03:48 -0500 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <025901c0ae40$cecdaee0$6800000a@billnew> Message-ID: <3AB26394.2D82BC31@bright.net> Greetings: Many thanks to everyone who listened in, I appreciate all the reports. I've restarted the stream with some more pieces added to the list, and I've added comments using the Vocoditor software, in case anyone wants to listen in some more (and see who did what on the original CD). The stream will loop for about an hour. Please let me know how it works for you... Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Fri Mar 16 23:17:11 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:17:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Getting Listed on yp.shoutcast.com In-Reply-To: <3302.208.37.156.21.984716540.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: I use liveice. icecast, and shoutcat.. Liveice streams to icecast, shoutcast relay's from icecast. Scott Q On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 lists at returntonature.com wrote: > Scott, > > > Thats what i do.. just relay. > > Exactly how are you doing it, and what software are you using (shoutcast > version / icecast version / what streaming software are you using)? I'm > running icecast 1.3.10, shoutcast 1.8.0, and irpd 0.16 to stream. When I > try to relay from shoutcast to my main icecast server, I get the following: > <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [main] dns thread starting > <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-name:AniAniAniAni ; icy-genre:Alternative > <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-pub:1 ; icy-br:0 ; > icy-url:http://hourfollowshour.org > <03/15/01 at 22:38:06> [source] icy-irc:N/A ; icy-icq:N/A ; icy-aim:N/A > <03/15/01 at 22:38:07> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave error (nak) > <03/15/01 at 22:38:07> [yp_add] yp.shoutcast.com gave extended error (3) > > Now I see that nak 3 thingy there, so I played with the icy-name and other > items, leaving many of them blank, etc, nothing seems to get rid of that > message. I am pointing this shoutcast server to the icecast server to relay > it...is that how you are doing it? I've also tried to stream to icecast > using streamcast and I get the same results. Hmph. > > Louis > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at john.ikansas.com Fri Mar 16 23:27:19 2001 From: scott at john.ikansas.com (Scott Weingartner) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Create MP3-Stream via ICECAST under LINUX In-Reply-To: <3AB1CB73.8104FA9F@phflesch.de> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Philipp Flesch wrote: > Hi! > > Which Encoder can digialize the sound coming in via Line-In on my soundcard > and mp3 it as stream via ICECAST? > I was looking around a little bit but I only found windows programms > creating a stream :-(( Aren't there any Linux programms? > Try LAME, it works great for me. > ThanX a lot and greetings from Germany! > > > Philipp > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlphilp at bright.net Sat Mar 17 00:01:18 2001 From: dlphilp at bright.net (Dave Phillips) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:01:18 -0500 Subject: [icecast] thanks ! Message-ID: <3AB2A94E.17F874D7@bright.net> Greetings: Just a note of thanks to everyone who tested the stream today. I'll experiment a little more tomorrow. Thanks a lot ! Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://sound.condorow.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Sat Mar 17 01:21:40 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:21:40 +1100 Subject: [icecast] Re: [vorbis] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: <3AB25D93.7C4633A4@myplay.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010317122140.41100100@mail.labyrinth.net.au> >It's only half an hour's work so far, I'm now trying to get Icecast2.0 >compiled - I'm getting a load of messages like this. >config.c:265: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' This probably means your libxml is the wrong version. I seem to have 1.8.10 installed, which works fine. Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From austad at marketwatch.com Sun Mar 18 19:22:43 2001 From: austad at marketwatch.com (Austad, Jay) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:22:43 -0600 Subject: [icecast] compiling 2.0 Message-ID: <7402C6826C67B547A7F1870FCB4D5F6F109652@mspexch1.office.mktw.net> How do I get 2.0 to compile? I just pulled it down from CVS, and I could not get it to compile, it was missing some stuff about vsnprintf.c. I have a couple of extra servers floating around and I'd like to start playing with Vorbis streaming. Also, will (or does) icecast support multicast streaming? Jay --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Sun Mar 18 21:23:45 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (Smörk) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:23:45 +0100 Subject: [icecast] compiling 2.0 In-Reply-To: <7402C6826C67B547A7F1870FCB4D5F6F109652@mspexch1.office.mktw.net> Message-ID: <20010318212246.5A41018D011@motherfish.xiph.org> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:22:43 -0600, Austad, Jay wrote: >How do I get 2.0 to compile? I just pulled it down from CVS, and I could >not get it to compile, it was missing some stuff about vsnprintf.c. I think it's outdated. look at http://i.cantcode.com/~jack/icecast.html, but it's offline now. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Mon Mar 19 02:32:59 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:32:59 -0800 Subject: [icecast] compiling 2.0 In-Reply-To: <20010318212246.5A41018D011@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: <20010318183259.A1172@tk421.icecast.org> > >How do I get 2.0 to compile? I just pulled it down from CVS, and I could > >not get it to compile, it was missing some stuff about vsnprintf.c. > > I think it's outdated. look at > http://i.cantcode.com/~jack/icecast.html, but it's offline now. GAR. It's back up. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoodman at sonusnet.com Tue Mar 20 14:21:19 2001 From: tgoodman at sonusnet.com (Todd Goodman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:21:19 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/LiveIce Problems Message-ID: <20010320092119.S4523@skarn.sonusnet.com> I'm having a couple problems trying to get Icecast and LiveIce set up on a Linux 7.0 system. I'm running Icecast 1.3.10 without a config file (using all defaults). I can use shout to stream to it and connect to it from a windows machine running WinAmp. It works OK except winamp stops every few seconds and tells me that it's buffering. It buffers for a few seconds and then plays a few more seconds. Does anyone have any ideas here? My other problem is with LiveIce streaming. What I want to do is use XMMS on a Linux machine play and then have LiveIce stream this. I don't think I can run XMMS and LiveIce on the same machine since they both want to use the soundcard. So what I've done is run icecast on the machine running XMMS and then cable from line out on that sound card to line in on another Linux machine which is running LiveIce. I can plug in speakers on that machine and hear what's playing from the first, but when I try to listen to that stream from winamp all I get is a bunch of clicks (like when you play back a VBR mp3 with a decoder that can't do it). I've tried using both lame and xingmp3enc (with the kernel module). I hope that these are simple config problems and that someone can help out. Thanks, Todd Goodman --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From andmann at andmann.eu.org Tue Mar 20 14:48:20 2001 From: andmann at andmann.eu.org (David S. Geirsson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:48:20 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/LiveIce Problems In-Reply-To: <20010320092119.S4523@skarn.sonusnet.com> Message-ID: <20010320144820.C1007@bong.andmann.eu.org> First of all, please define "Linux 7.0", since the last time I knew linux was only up to 2.4. It annoys me incredibly when people refer to the distribution version xx as "linux version xx". Now, you are correct in saying that they probably can't coexist because of soundcard issues. There is, however, an XMMS IceCast plugin. Also, buffering only means that either you should lower your bitrate, or increase the buffer size in winamp, althought this will take longer to load. On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:21:19AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: > I'm having a couple problems trying to get Icecast and LiveIce set up on > a Linux 7.0 system. > > I'm running Icecast 1.3.10 without a config file (using all defaults). > > I can use shout to stream to it and connect to it from a windows machine > running WinAmp. It works OK except winamp stops every few seconds and > tells me that it's buffering. It buffers for a few seconds and then > plays a few more seconds. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > My other problem is with LiveIce streaming. What I want to do is use > XMMS on a Linux machine play and then have LiveIce stream this. I don't > think I can run XMMS and LiveIce on the same machine since they both > want to use the soundcard. > > So what I've done is run icecast on the machine running XMMS and then > cable from line out on that sound card to line in on another Linux > machine which is running LiveIce. I can plug in speakers on that > machine and hear what's playing from the first, but when I try to listen > to that stream from winamp all I get is a bunch of clicks (like when you > play back a VBR mp3 with a decoder that can't do it). I've tried using > both lame and xingmp3enc (with the kernel module). > > I hope that these are simple config problems and that someone can help > out. > > Thanks, > > Todd Goodman > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Dav?? Steinn Geirsson andmann at andmann.eu.org (354)-8696608 "Support staff hung over, Send aspirin and come back LATER."
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There is, however, an XMMS IceCast plugin. > > Also, buffering only means that either you should lower your bitrate, or > increase the buffer size in winamp, althought this will take longer to load. > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:21:19AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: > > I'm having a couple problems trying to get Icecast and LiveIce set up on > > a Linux 7.0 system. > > > > I'm running Icecast 1.3.10 without a config file (using all defaults). > > > > I can use shout to stream to it and connect to it from a windows machine > > running WinAmp. It works OK except winamp stops every few seconds and > > tells me that it's buffering. It buffers for a few seconds and then > > plays a few more seconds. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > > > My other problem is with LiveIce streaming. What I want to do is use > > XMMS on a Linux machine play and then have LiveIce stream this. I don't > > think I can run XMMS and LiveIce on the same machine since they both > > want to use the soundcard. > > > > So what I've done is run icecast on the machine running XMMS and then > > cable from line out on that sound card to line in on another Linux > > machine which is running LiveIce. I can plug in speakers on that > > machine and hear what's playing from the first, but when I try to listen > > to that stream from winamp all I get is a bunch of clicks (like when you > > play back a VBR mp3 with a decoder that can't do it). I've tried using > > both lame and xingmp3enc (with the kernel module). > > > > I hope that these are simple config problems and that someone can help > > out. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Todd Goodman > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- > Dav?? Steinn Geirsson > andmann at andmann.eu.org > (354)-8696608 > > "Support staff hung over, Send aspirin and come back LATER." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From andmann at andmann.eu.org Tue Mar 20 14:58:12 2001 From: andmann at andmann.eu.org (David S. Geirsson) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:58:12 +0000 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/LiveIce Problems In-Reply-To: <20010320095644.T4523@skarn.sonusnet.com> Message-ID: <20010320145812.E1007@bong.andmann.eu.org> Hmm... coredumps? Which XMMS version? On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:56:44AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: > I'm sorry, I meant RedHat 7.0 of course. That machine is running kernel > 2.2.14-5.0. > > I've tried the XMMS LiveIce plugin and XMMS cores as soon as it's > enabled. > > Thanks for the info on buffering. > > Todd > > * David S. Geirsson [010320 09:49]: > > First of all, please define "Linux 7.0", since the last time I knew linux > > was only up to 2.4. It annoys me incredibly when people refer to the > > distribution version xx as "linux version xx". > > > > Now, you are correct in saying that they probably can't coexist because of > > soundcard issues. There is, however, an XMMS IceCast plugin. > > > > Also, buffering only means that either you should lower your bitrate, or > > increase the buffer size in winamp, althought this will take longer to load. > > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:21:19AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: > > > I'm having a couple problems trying to get Icecast and LiveIce set up on > > > a Linux 7.0 system. > > > > > > I'm running Icecast 1.3.10 without a config file (using all defaults). > > > > > > I can use shout to stream to it and connect to it from a windows machine > > > running WinAmp. It works OK except winamp stops every few seconds and > > > tells me that it's buffering. It buffers for a few seconds and then > > > plays a few more seconds. Does anyone have any ideas here? > > > > > > My other problem is with LiveIce streaming. What I want to do is use > > > XMMS on a Linux machine play and then have LiveIce stream this. I don't > > > think I can run XMMS and LiveIce on the same machine since they both > > > want to use the soundcard. > > > > > > So what I've done is run icecast on the machine running XMMS and then > > > cable from line out on that sound card to line in on another Linux > > > machine which is running LiveIce. I can plug in speakers on that > > > machine and hear what's playing from the first, but when I try to listen > > > to that stream from winamp all I get is a bunch of clicks (like when you > > > play back a VBR mp3 with a decoder that can't do it). I've tried using > > > both lame and xingmp3enc (with the kernel module). > > > > > > I hope that these are simple config problems and that someone can help > > > out. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Todd Goodman > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > -- > > Dav?? Steinn Geirsson > > andmann at andmann.eu.org > > (354)-8696608 > > > > "Support staff hung over, Send aspirin and come back LATER." > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- Dav?? Steinn Geirsson andmann at andmann.eu.org (354)-8696608 "Support staff hung over, Send aspirin and come back LATER." --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoodman at sonusnet.com Tue Mar 20 15:04:09 2001 From: tgoodman at sonusnet.com (Todd Goodman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:04:09 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/LiveIce Problems In-Reply-To: <20010320145812.E1007@bong.andmann.eu.org> Message-ID: <20010320100409.W4523@skarn.sonusnet.com> 1.2.2 * David S. Geirsson [010320 09:59]: > Hmm... coredumps? Which XMMS version? > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:56:44AM -0500, Todd Goodman wrote: > > I'm sorry, I meant RedHat 7.0 of course. That machine is running kernel > > 2.2.14-5.0. > > > > I've tried the XMMS LiveIce plugin and XMMS cores as soon as it's > > enabled. > > > > Thanks for the info on buffering. > > > > Todd > > > > * David S. Geirsson [010320 09:49]: > > > First of all, please define "Linux 7.0", since the last time I knew linux > > > was only up to 2.4. It annoys me incredibly when people refer to the > > > distribution version xx as "linux version xx". > > > > > > Now, you are correct in saying that they probably can't coexist because of > > > soundcard issues. There is, however, an XMMS IceCast plugin. > > > > > > Also, buffering only means that either you should lower your bitrate, or > > > increase the buffer size in winamp, althought this will take longer to load. [SNIP] --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sean at rimboy.com Wed Mar 21 04:34:27 2001 From: sean at rimboy.com (Sean /The RIMBoy/) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:34:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] RIMiRadio 0.4 released Message-ID: RIMiRadio, an icecast server on a linux floppy distro is released (see sig below for details on where to get it). v 0.4 now features Icecast 1.3.10. I also corrected /etc/issue reporting the wrong version of RiR. 0.4's release name is "Enjoy the Silence". There should be a freshmeat posting soon. Likewise, any feedback is appreciated. I had ~300 downloads and no feedback with release 0.3. I'm guessing that is a good thing :) Sincerely, Sean... -- A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish. --Chevy Chase, Caddyshack _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ www.rimboy.com <-- Your source for the crap you know you need. www.rimboy.com/rimdistro/rimiradio <-- Icecast server on a floppy! (i486+) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From xiphmont at xiph.org Thu Mar 22 01:44:53 2001 From: xiphmont at xiph.org (Monty) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:44:53 -0800 Subject: [icecast] another Icecast2/Vorbis stream on-line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010321174453.Q4573@bloopfish.xiph.org> On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 11:08:12AM -0500, Josh Vickery wrote: > That sounds quite good, comparing it to a 24 kbp /16 khz mp3 mono mp3 > stream the difference is striking. The XMMS plugin is still quite buggy > though, I have to disable my MP3 plugin to get it to work right. You need not only an up-to-date Ogg plugin, but also a new mp3 plugin from XMMS CVS. The old mp3 plugin will try to grab anything starting with 'http://'. Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Thu Mar 22 03:08:29 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:08:29 -0500 Subject: [icecast] About Live365.. Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010321220404.00c97530@216.200.176.7> If anyone else is using Live365 and having problems getting their streams to show up.. I found out something interesting today. I've been emailing back and forth asking them why I can listen to my mirror just fine on their service if I use the javascript I ripped out of their site and put into mine to open up their little mini-window, but when I do a search for the station it doesn't show up; also if I add it to my presets on their site and then open the presets, it always shows the station as unavailable.. It turns out that if you're streaming at any rate higher than 56kbps, they don't list you in their directory. The "official" word from support is that they don't support rates over that. I was streaming at 96kbps and although as I said, I could listen just fine if I went through my link, nobody searching for me or getting listings from live365 would be able to even find my streams. Anyway.. I've backed my entire stream off to 56kbps, and it's not half bad for the additional users I can support now.. doesn't sound to terribly bad I guess either. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 447 streams - 56kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 03:51:39 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:51:39 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help Message-ID: I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. I downloaded and installed Icecast 1.3.10, Liveice, mpg123, and Lame. I know the Icecast streamer is working because I can feed it from WinAMP on my PC and listen to the stream somewhere else and it sounds fine. I know liveice is working too because Icecast shows that it connects and is sending audio to it. However when I listen to the stream on my PC with WinAMP it's aweful. It sounds like the audio is really overdriven, very distorted, grinding noise. In fact I can't even hear anything of the stream, just the grinding buzzing, and it is very loud. I'm feeding to the line in on my sound card from a portable radio. I get the same effect though whether the audio is plugged into the sound card or not. I imagine this is a hardware problem with the sound card, but it's a run of the mill Sound Blaster AWE32 I think and I figured it would be the most supported. I recompiled the kernel to get the audio to work, and if I send an audio file directly to the audio device I can hear it just fine. It's only when I start up liveice that I get the distortion. I'm kind of a newbie at this audio streaming so don't hate me if this is a really dumb question. Thanks for any help. Matt matt at techminer.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From vikas98 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 04:27:13 2001 From: vikas98 at hotmail.com (Vikas Gupta) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:27:13 Subject: [icecast] liveice mount points Message-ID: I have been sucessfully streaming with liveice/icecast. Now I want to add a second broadcast with differanct music. I thought I could just create a new dir, plop in a new liveice config file in the dir, with a diff mountpoint in the second config file and be on my way. But when i try this, the the second instance of liveice is kill instantly. Is this the correct way to stream two differant streams? I know that mountpoints in the same config file can be used for diff bitrates of the same stream. I want to have two differant streams. Any help is appreciated!! Vikas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ramzeus at home.se Thu Mar 22 04:34:49 2001 From: ramzeus at home.se (Patrik Lindahl) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:34:49 +0100 Subject: [icecast] About Live365.. In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010321220404.00c97530@216.200.176.7> Message-ID: <4020003262.20010322053449@home.se> I have successfully set up a IceCast server relay at live365. My stream is 64 Kbit/s. I can se my self if the stream list. And I can find my self if I search on the station name. To create a link to the station I copied the link that I got from live365, and put it in a WinAmp .pls file. My station: http://ramzeus.hn.org/radiolegion/ ~~ Patrik Lindahl mailto:ramzeus at home.se Thursday, March 22, 2001, 4:08:29 AM, you wrote: A> If anyone else is using Live365 and having problems getting their streams A> to show up.. I found out something interesting today. A> I've been emailing back and forth asking them why I can listen to my mirror A> just fine on their service if I use the javascript I ripped out of their A> site and put into mine to open up their little mini-window, but when I do a A> search for the station it doesn't show up; also if I add it to my presets A> on their site and then open the presets, it always shows the station as A> unavailable.. A> It turns out that if you're streaming at any rate higher than 56kbps, they A> don't list you in their directory. The "official" word from support is A> that they don't support rates over that. I was streaming at 96kbps and A> although as I said, I could listen just fine if I went through my link, A> nobody searching for me or getting listings from live365 would be able to A> even find my streams. A> Anyway.. I've backed my entire stream off to 56kbps, and it's not half bad A> for the additional users I can support now.. doesn't sound to terribly bad A> I guess either. A> -------signature file------- A> PGP Key Fingerprint: A> 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 A> "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." A> "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite A> unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." A> -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. A> http://www.freebsd.org A> FreeBSD - The Power to Serve A> http://www.rfnj.org A> Radio Free New Jersey - 447 streams - 56kbps @ 22khz Stereo A> http://namespace.org -- http://name.space A> Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >>8 ---- A> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ A> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ A> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' A> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. A> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 04:42:53 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:42:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've used a Sound Blaster AWE32 / Liveice combo before. Sounds like your record volume is set WAY to high or more likely you are recording from the wrong input. Make sure that it's the _line_in_ that's selected for recording in you mixer app. Also If i remember you have to use HALF_DUPLEX mode (in liveice.cfg) at least if you're using MIXER mode... I'm not sure about in SIMPLE mode, expirement. Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. I downloaded and installed Icecast 1.3.10, > Liveice, mpg123, and Lame. I know the Icecast streamer is working because I > can feed it from WinAMP on my PC and listen to the stream somewhere else and > it sounds fine. I know liveice is working too because Icecast shows that it > connects and is sending audio to it. However when I listen to the stream on > my PC with WinAMP it's aweful. It sounds like the audio is really > overdriven, very distorted, grinding noise. In fact I can't even hear > anything of the stream, just the grinding buzzing, and it is very loud. I'm > feeding to the line in on my sound card from a portable radio. I get the > same effect though whether the audio is plugged into the sound card or not. > > I imagine this is a hardware problem with the sound card, but it's a run of > the mill Sound Blaster AWE32 I think and I figured it would be the most > supported. I recompiled the kernel to get the audio to work, and if I send > an audio file directly to the audio device I can hear it just fine. It's > only when I start up liveice that I get the distortion. I'm kind of a > newbie at this audio streaming so don't hate me if this is a really dumb > question. > > Thanks for any help. > > Matt > matt at techminer.net > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 05:01:31 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:01:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] liveice mount points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It sounds like both liveice procs are trying to open the sound card? and the second one fails? I think you can double check that NO_SOUNDCARD is set in the second liveice. If you are just streaming a playlist (no soundcard) with the second liveice you should probably use Ices instead. I've had one broadcasts going with liveice and a second with Ices before. Also done 2 using 2 Ices. I never tried 2 liveice at once. Harvey On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Vikas Gupta wrote: > I have been sucessfully streaming with liveice/icecast. Now I want to add a > second broadcast with differanct music. I thought I could just create a new > dir, plop in a new liveice config file in the dir, with a diff mountpoint in > the second config file and be on my way. > > But when i try this, the the second instance of liveice is kill instantly. > Is this the correct way to stream two differant streams? I know that > mountpoints in the same config file can be used for diff bitrates of the > same stream. I want to have two differant streams. > > > Any help is appreciated!! > > > Vikas > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 05:00:23 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:00:23 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the console, no GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the record volume. Matt -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of harvey smith Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:43 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help I've used a Sound Blaster AWE32 / Liveice combo before. Sounds like your record volume is set WAY to high or more likely you are recording from the wrong input. Make sure that it's the _line_in_ that's selected for recording in you mixer app. Also If i remember you have to use HALF_DUPLEX mode (in liveice.cfg) at least if you're using MIXER mode... I'm not sure about in SIMPLE mode, expirement. Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. I downloaded and installed Icecast 1.3.10, > Liveice, mpg123, and Lame. I know the Icecast streamer is working because I > can feed it from WinAMP on my PC and listen to the stream somewhere else and > it sounds fine. I know liveice is working too because Icecast shows that it > connects and is sending audio to it. However when I listen to the stream on > my PC with WinAMP it's aweful. It sounds like the audio is really > overdriven, very distorted, grinding noise. In fact I can't even hear > anything of the stream, just the grinding buzzing, and it is very loud. I'm > feeding to the line in on my sound card from a portable radio. I get the > same effect though whether the audio is plugged into the sound card or not. > > I imagine this is a hardware problem with the sound card, but it's a run of > the mill Sound Blaster AWE32 I think and I figured it would be the most > supported. I recompiled the kernel to get the audio to work, and if I send > an audio file directly to the audio device I can hear it just fine. It's > only when I start up liveice that I get the distortion. I'm kind of a > newbie at this audio streaming so don't hate me if this is a really dumb > question. > > Thanks for any help. > > Matt > matt at techminer.net > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 05:19:43 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:19:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Your distro probably came with an sound mixer application. I use aumix on the console which i had to go get, but you may already have, see if you have a man page. Else you can search freshmeat.net for it. You will need to make sure _line_in_ is set for recording and set the _rec_ volume at 1/2 to start and adjust by trial and error. NOTE: the _line_in_ Volume adjusts how loud you HEAR the source, but it's the _rec_ Volume that adjusts how loud it's recorded (in this case sent to the Liveice process). Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the console, no > GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the record > volume. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:43 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > I've used a Sound Blaster AWE32 / Liveice combo before. > > Sounds like your record volume is set WAY to high or more likely you are > recording from the wrong input. Make sure that it's the _line_in_ that's > selected for recording in you mixer app. > > Also If i remember you have to use HALF_DUPLEX mode (in liveice.cfg) at > least if you're using MIXER mode... I'm not sure about in SIMPLE mode, > expirement. > > Harvey > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. I downloaded and installed Icecast 1.3.10, > > Liveice, mpg123, and Lame. I know the Icecast streamer is working because > I > > can feed it from WinAMP on my PC and listen to the stream somewhere else > and > > it sounds fine. I know liveice is working too because Icecast shows that > it > > connects and is sending audio to it. However when I listen to the stream > on > > my PC with WinAMP it's aweful. It sounds like the audio is really > > overdriven, very distorted, grinding noise. In fact I can't even hear > > anything of the stream, just the grinding buzzing, and it is very loud. > I'm > > feeding to the line in on my sound card from a portable radio. I get the > > same effect though whether the audio is plugged into the sound card or > not. > > > > I imagine this is a hardware problem with the sound card, but it's a run > of > > the mill Sound Blaster AWE32 I think and I figured it would be the most > > supported. I recompiled the kernel to get the audio to work, and if I > send > > an audio file directly to the audio device I can hear it just fine. It's > > only when I start up liveice that I get the distortion. I'm kind of a > > newbie at this audio streaming so don't hate me if this is a really dumb > > question. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Matt > > matt at techminer.net > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 05:41:23 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:41:23 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you want to hear what it sounds like, take a listen. I'll have it up for another 20 mins or so. 216.89.166.14:8000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of harvey smith Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:20 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help Your distro probably came with an sound mixer application. I use aumix on the console which i had to go get, but you may already have, see if you have a man page. Else you can search freshmeat.net for it. You will need to make sure _line_in_ is set for recording and set the _rec_ volume at 1/2 to start and adjust by trial and error. NOTE: the _line_in_ Volume adjusts how loud you HEAR the source, but it's the _rec_ Volume that adjusts how loud it's recorded (in this case sent to the Liveice process). Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the console, no > GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the record > volume. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:43 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > I've used a Sound Blaster AWE32 / Liveice combo before. > > Sounds like your record volume is set WAY to high or more likely you are > recording from the wrong input. Make sure that it's the _line_in_ that's > selected for recording in you mixer app. > > Also If i remember you have to use HALF_DUPLEX mode (in liveice.cfg) at > least if you're using MIXER mode... I'm not sure about in SIMPLE mode, > expirement. > > Harvey > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.2. I downloaded and installed Icecast 1.3.10, > > Liveice, mpg123, and Lame. I know the Icecast streamer is working because > I > > can feed it from WinAMP on my PC and listen to the stream somewhere else > and > > it sounds fine. I know liveice is working too because Icecast shows that > it > > connects and is sending audio to it. However when I listen to the stream > on > > my PC with WinAMP it's aweful. It sounds like the audio is really > > overdriven, very distorted, grinding noise. In fact I can't even hear > > anything of the stream, just the grinding buzzing, and it is very loud. > I'm > > feeding to the line in on my sound card from a portable radio. I get the > > same effect though whether the audio is plugged into the sound card or > not. > > > > I imagine this is a hardware problem with the sound card, but it's a run > of > > the mill Sound Blaster AWE32 I think and I figured it would be the most > > supported. I recompiled the kernel to get the audio to work, and if I > send > > an audio file directly to the audio device I can hear it just fine. It's > > only when I start up liveice that I get the distortion. I'm kind of a > > newbie at this audio streaming so don't hate me if this is a really dumb > > question. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Matt > > matt at techminer.net > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 05:51:51 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:51:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yesm i hear, and it sounds like you are recording from the wrong input. Have you found a mixer application and adjusted volumes? Are you recording (streaming) from a playlist file or the soundcard (or both)? Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > If you want to hear what it sounds like, take a listen. I'll have it up for > another 20 mins or so. > > 216.89.166.14:8000 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:20 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > Your distro probably came with an sound mixer application. I use aumix on > the console which i had to go get, but you may already have, see if you > have a man page. Else you can search freshmeat.net for it. You will need > to make sure _line_in_ is set for recording and set the _rec_ volume at > 1/2 to start and adjust by trial and error. NOTE: the _line_in_ Volume > adjusts how loud you HEAR the source, but it's the _rec_ Volume that > adjusts how loud it's recorded (in this case sent to the Liveice process). > > Harvey > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the console, > no > > GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the > record > > volume. > > > > Matt > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 05:57:50 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:57:50 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, I downloaded the aumix utility and am using it now. Set line in to %50 then %25 and to record but still the same thing. I'm streaming from the line in on the sound card which is being fed from a portable radio nearby. I get the distortion whether I have the audio fed into 'line in' or not. Matt -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of harvey smith Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:52 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help Yesm i hear, and it sounds like you are recording from the wrong input. Have you found a mixer application and adjusted volumes? Are you recording (streaming) from a playlist file or the soundcard (or both)? Harvey On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > If you want to hear what it sounds like, take a listen. I'll have it up for > another 20 mins or so. > > 216.89.166.14:8000 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:20 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > Your distro probably came with an sound mixer application. I use aumix on > the console which i had to go get, but you may already have, see if you > have a man page. Else you can search freshmeat.net for it. You will need > to make sure _line_in_ is set for recording and set the _rec_ volume at > 1/2 to start and adjust by trial and error. NOTE: the _line_in_ Volume > adjusts how loud you HEAR the source, but it's the _rec_ Volume that > adjusts how loud it's recorded (in this case sent to the Liveice process). > > Harvey > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the console, > no > > GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the > record > > volume. > > > > Matt > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 06:04:39 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:04:39 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My liveice console window is showing the following... Input-Level: ######################################### *clip* Input-Level: ######################################### *clip* Is this the problem? How do I bring these levels down in liveice? -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of harvey smith Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:52 PM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help Yesm i hear, and it sounds like you are recording from the wrong input. Have you found a mixer application and adjusted volumes? Are you recording (streaming) from a playlist file or the soundcard (or both)? Harvey --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Thu Mar 22 06:08:42 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:08:42 -0500 Subject: [icecast] About Live365.. In-Reply-To: <4020003262.20010322053449@home.se> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010322010752.00c5bb08@64.7.7.83> At 05:34 3/22/2001 +0100, you wrote: > I have successfully set up a IceCast server relay at live365. > My stream is 64 Kbit/s. I can se my self if the stream list. And I > can find my self if I search on the station name. > To create a link to the station I copied the link that I got from > live365, and put it in a WinAmp .pls file. Hmm, what is your broadcaster name? I can't find you through the live365 search using "radiolegion" on any field.. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 493 streams - 56kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 06:19:22 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:19:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > Yes, I downloaded the aumix utility and am using it now. Set line in to %50 > then %25 and to record but still the same thing. It doesn't matter what the _line_in_ volume is set at just make sure it is selected to record. then set the _rec_ volume, it's a different thing. I use the interactive curses interface, select _line_in_ to record by selecting it and hitting spacebar. Assuming you have all that you'll need to open the soundcard at a realistice sample rate. that is set in liveice.cfg You can test the sound card end by using a different app (like rec) and record a wav file and see if that works. If you can do that then you problem is on the liveice.cfg end. If you are sure you soundcard is set correct i can take a look at your config file. harvey >I'm streaming from the > line in on the sound card which is being fed from a portable radio nearby. > I get the distortion whether I have the audio fed into 'line in' or not. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:52 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > Yesm i hear, and it sounds like you are recording from the wrong > input. Have you found a mixer application and adjusted volumes? Are you > recording (streaming) from a playlist file or the soundcard (or > both)? > > Harvey > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > If you want to hear what it sounds like, take a listen. I'll have it up > for > > another 20 mins or so. > > > > 216.89.166.14:8000 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > > harvey smith > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:20 PM > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > > > > Your distro probably came with an sound mixer application. I use aumix on > > the console which i had to go get, but you may already have, see if you > > have a man page. Else you can search freshmeat.net for it. You will need > > to make sure _line_in_ is set for recording and set the _rec_ volume at > > 1/2 to start and adjust by trial and error. NOTE: the _line_in_ Volume > > adjusts how loud you HEAR the source, but it's the _rec_ Volume that > > adjusts how loud it's recorded (in this case sent to the Liveice process). > > > > Harvey > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > > > > > How do I change the record volume. I am doing all this from the > console, > > no > > > GUI. I have not seen anything in any of the config files to set the > > record > > > volume. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From harvey at buskers.org Thu Mar 22 06:25:38 2001 From: harvey at buskers.org (harvey smith) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:25:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You adjust this in aumix as i've said. you can adjust them down to zero there if you like. Harvey On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Matthew Mencel wrote: > My liveice console window is showing the following... > > Input-Level: ######################################### *clip* > Input-Level: ######################################### *clip* > > Is this the problem? How do I bring these levels down in liveice? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of > harvey smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:52 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > Yesm i hear, and it sounds like you are recording from the wrong > input. Have you found a mixer application and adjusted volumes? Are you > recording (streaming) from a playlist file or the soundcard (or > both)? > > Harvey > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 06:28:50 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:28:50 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's late here so I'm off to bed. Here's my liveice.cfg file to look at. Thanks for your help tonight Harvey. Matt # liveice configuration file # Use this as a guide to what the options do.... # basic options SERVER localhost PORT 8001 PASSWORD xxxxxxx # Which encoder to use - choose one - you may need to set a suitable # sampling frequency and birate. # # Recommended Encoders # # USE_MP3ENC use fraunhofer's mp3 encoder: money + CPU = best quality # USE_LAME3 Use the currenct versions of lame (www.sulaco.org) # USE_GOGO Hacked/Optomised Lame - Lower quality, higher speed # USE_XING_BETA - actually it's illegal to use this.... # USE_L3ENC - Fraunhofer's original encoder. registerd version only. # # Recommended for kernel hackers only # # USE_XING - uses the XING mp3 encoder - you need a special kernel module to # make it work.... # USE_XING_VBR - Implement VBR streams... no popular # # Not recommended (low quality ISO source...) # USE_SCREAMER uses the version of LAME from Isaac Richard's screamer # USE_AJ_ENCODER Andreas Johannsen's encoder # USE_BLADE *DOESN at T WORK* Don't even think about it # USE_OLD_LAME3 lame311 versions 3.01 to 3.11 # # # If you're having problems - specify the full path to the encoder USE_LAME3 /usr/local/bin/lame # # You can manually set other command line options using this # e.g. manually set high quality mode in lame ENCODER_ARGS -h # SOUNDCARD is enabled by default - use NO_SOUNDCARD with mixer mode # if you don't actually have a soundcard in the computer producing the # mp3 source # NO_SOUNDCARD doesn't work with simple mode. # *Don't* mess around with the clock on the computer - it'll confuse it # I'm not looking into a more complicated solution just yet. #there are no command line equivalents for these SOUNDCARD #NO_SOUNDCARD # lets you specify another device to connect to SOUND_DEVICE /dev/dsp #use full duplex mode on soundcard -f/-h # most drivers dont' support full duplex - dont' complain if it breaks #FULL_DUPLEX HALF_DUPLEX # #audio format # Don't be too greedy - any moron asking for 44100Hz, Stereo at 32kbit # should be shot # SAMPLE_RATE 22050 BITRATE 32000 MONO #STEREO # Encoding Quality - this is a general quality feature which covers various # switches on the encoder - I've scaled things into the range 0-100 # reducing the quality reduces the CPU requiremnets # It relies on me coding command line parameters..... ENCODING_QUALITY 30 # Variable bitrate Quality - only for USE_XING_VBR # approximate data rates (tested agains Annie Nightingale's radio show # 44100Hz 16 bit, mono.) # these are per channel estimates - double them for stereo... # 0 roughly 48Kbit # 50 roughly 70kbit #100 roughly 96kbit # if you reduce the sampling rate to 22050 then the bitrate is reduced also... # e.g. q=0 => 28kbit per channel #VBR_QUALITY 1 # login / connect format # # Icy login == old styl shoutcast == sucky - use only if talking to # a stupid (i.e. shoutcast) server #ICY_LOGIN # # x-audiocast - much better idea - use for icecast servers # specify a mountpoint too. # X_AUDIOCAST_LOGIN MOUNTPOINT live # # Stream metadata # # name# name -n NAME Big Test - Matt's Test Icecast Server # genre -g GENRE experimental # public flag -x PUBLIC 0 # URL -u URL http://216.89.166.14 #password -P PASSWORD xxxxxxx #description - only valid in x-audiocast systems DESCRIPTION Test Icecast server...by Matt # # LiveIce Modes # # No mixer - simple mode uses line-in on soundcard NO_MIXER # esd mode - reads from esdmon #ESDMON_MODE # Shout mode - load the playlist and run in sequence thourgh it #SHOUT_MODE # Mixer mode - complicated mp3 mixer #MIXER # # some modes need a playlist # #PLAYLIST playlist # if you want to decode mp3 you need a version of mpg123 lying around. DECODER_COMMAND mpg123 # # Stream recording # # local file for recording #SAVE_FILE local_filename.mp3 # # request the remote server to record the data #REMOTE_DUMPFILE remote.mp3 # # Sometimes you may want to set a time limit on operation # #DURATION 3600 # # If you want to send metadata (e.g. titles) to the server - set the delay here # the number is in minutes - don't try specifying fractions. UPDATE_DELAY 2 # #if you use the mixer you can record and replay events. # #MIX_CONTROL_MANUAL #MIX_CONTROL_AUTO #MIX_CONTROL_LOGGED #CONTROL_FILE mix_command # # You can log every track played to a file # #TRACK_LOGFILE track.log # and even specify the format #LOGFILE_FORMAT %t %T %f %F %a %n %b %u # # update script can be executed at every track change... # Not well documented - in fact not documented at all #UPDATE_SCRIPT # while this sets the debugging level # set this to 10 if ytouhave problems and send scott the output ;-) VERBOSE 0 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 06:36:18 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matthew Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:36:18 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well I adjusted all levels to zero in aumix and still got the noise. Oh well, thanks again. Matt -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of harvey smith Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:26 AM To: icecast at xiph.org Subject: RE: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help You adjust this in aumix as i've said. you can adjust them down to zero there if you like. Harvey --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From glen at designsolution.co.uk Thu Mar 22 10:30:32 2001 From: glen at designsolution.co.uk (Glen Scott) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:30:32 +0000 Subject: [icecast] content on demand? Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010322102910.00a6ead0@212.78.70.53> Hi, Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to them on a web page. 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In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010322102910.00a6ead0@212.78.70.53> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010322053420.00c540d0@64.7.7.83> At 10:30 3/22/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, > >Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I >have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to >them on a web page. Yes, and the info on how to do that is all in the documentation/readme and the comment blurbs in the config file. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 493 streams - 40kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Jochem at ph2x.darktech.org Thu Mar 22 09:55:15 2001 From: Jochem at ph2x.darktech.org (Jochem Berends) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:55:15 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Stuttering stream after 1 minute In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002601c0b2b6$32613fc0$2564a8c0@fastnet.ph20.nl> After one minute of connection the stream from our icecast 1.3.10 server (debian package 1.3.10-2) starts stuttering. And after some stuttering the client is disconnected by the server. The usual client is a windows winamp. The icecast logs shows that the the client is not receiving data fast enough. A small part out the logs is shown below. That the data is not received fast enough is rediculous because we have a 100mbit LAN here. - - - [19/Mar/2001:22:43:58] [18:Source Thread] Kicking client 17 [...blanked hostname...] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 43 seconds, 585951 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected [19/Mar/2001:22:44:43] [18:Source Thread] Kicking client 18 [...blanked hostname...] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 38 seconds, 520399 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected - - - Anyway... I'm using shout (1.4.0-3) to stream the sourcedata without re-encoding to the server... Could that be a problem? I'm willing to try other packages like ices but not before I'm sure that the source client is the problem.. best regards, Jochem Berends ----- Original Message ----- From: "harvey smith" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] liveice mount points > It sounds like both liveice procs are trying to open the sound card? and > the second one fails? I think you can double check that NO_SOUNDCARD is > set in the second liveice. If you are just streaming a playlist (no > soundcard) with the second liveice you should probably use Ices > instead. I've had one broadcasts going with liveice and a second with Ices > before. Also done 2 using 2 Ices. I never tried 2 liveice at once. > > Harvey > > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Vikas Gupta wrote: > > > I have been sucessfully streaming with liveice/icecast. Now I want to add a > > second broadcast with differanct music. I thought I could just create a new > > dir, plop in a new liveice config file in the dir, with a diff mountpoint in > > the second config file and be on my way. > > > > But when i try this, the the second instance of liveice is kill instantly. > > Is this the correct way to stream two differant streams? I know that > > mountpoints in the same config file can be used for diff bitrates of the > > same stream. I want to have two differant streams. > > > > > > Any help is appreciated!! > > > > > > Vikas > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From scott at myplay.com Thu Mar 22 15:49:55 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:49:55 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3ABA1F23.CB270BCE@myplay.com> One possibility is that Lame is using the wrong endianess for your system try changing NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN to NUMBER_BIG_ENDIAN in liveice.h and rebuilding. The default distribution of Lame uses big endia samples on IO, which means that in raw input mode it needs the -x arg to be set. However - some 'helpful' people have made this the default on some distributions.... so when liveice sets it it puts it into the wrong mode. there's an ENCODER_ARGS option in liveice which lets you set arbitrary commadn line arguments, but -x is enabled always with liveice - and I don't think specifying it twice will turn it off. -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 18:01:15 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matt Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:01:15 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: <3ABA1F23.CB270BCE@myplay.com> Message-ID: <000701c0b2fa$16e13540$8f00a8c0@cmitech.com> Decided to switch to OpenBSD 2.8 as I'm a bit more familiar with it. Everything seems to compile just fine except liveice. I get this error when running make. gcc -g -02 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c -o streams.o streams.c streams.c:39 machine/soundcard.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/liveice (line 42 of Makefile). Now it seems pretty obvious why this failed, but I don't know why that file is not where it is supposed to be. Can anyone help?? Thanks, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Manley" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > One possibility is that Lame is using the wrong endianess for your > system try changing NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN to NUMBER_BIG_ENDIAN in > liveice.h and rebuilding. > > The default distribution of Lame uses big endia samples on IO, which > means that in raw input mode it needs the -x arg to be set. However - > some 'helpful' people have made this the default on some > distributions.... so when liveice sets it it puts it into the wrong > mode. > > there's an ENCODER_ARGS option in liveice which lets you set arbitrary > commadn line arguments, but -x is enabled always with liveice - and I > don't think specifying it twice will turn it off. > > > -- > Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) > Streaming Media Hacker > www.myplay.com > > Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years > http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From music at performantsystems.com Thu Mar 22 18:16:15 2001 From: music at performantsystems.com (Big Al) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:16:15 -0800 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010322053420.00c540d0@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <3ABA416F.53D2BE9E@performantsystems.com> A tutorial on successful use of Icecast Static streaming (on demand) is available here: http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/IcecastStaticHOWTO.html Asymmetric wrote: > At 10:30 3/22/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I > >have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to > >them on a web page. > > Yes, and the info on how to do that is all in the documentation/readme and > the comment blurbs in the config file. > > -------signature file------- > PGP Key Fingerprint: > 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 > > "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." > "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite > unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." > -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. > > http://www.freebsd.org > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve > > http://www.rfnj.org > Radio Free New Jersey - 493 streams - 40kbps @ 22khz Stereo > > http://namespace.org -- http://name.space > Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 18:32:56 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matt Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:32:56 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help In-Reply-To: <000701c0b2fa$16e13540$8f00a8c0@cmitech.com> Message-ID: <000d01c0b2fe$838458e0$8f00a8c0@cmitech.com> Fixed...just pulled the machine/ out of that statement and it compiled. Now however I'm getting the __oss_ioctl problem referenced in this thread... http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0007/msg00232.html How do I add "-lossaudio" to the linker flags like this person says in the post??? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mencel" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > Decided to switch to OpenBSD 2.8 as I'm a bit more familiar with it. > Everything seems to compile just fine except liveice. I get this error when > running make. > > gcc -g -02 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c -o streams.o streams.c > streams.c:39 machine/soundcard.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/liveice (line 42 of Makefile). > > Now it seems pretty obvious why this failed, but I don't know why that file > is not where it is supposed to be. > > Can anyone help?? > Thanks, > Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Manley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [icecast] Liveice & Icecast...help > > > > One possibility is that Lame is using the wrong endianess for your > > system try changing NUMBER_LITTLE_ENDIAN to NUMBER_BIG_ENDIAN in > > liveice.h and rebuilding. > > > > The default distribution of Lame uses big endia samples on IO, which > > means that in raw input mode it needs the -x arg to be set. However - > > some 'helpful' people have made this the default on some > > distributions.... so when liveice sets it it puts it into the wrong > > mode. > > > > there's an ENCODER_ARGS option in liveice which lets you set arbitrary > > commadn line arguments, but -x is enabled always with liveice - and I > > don't think specifying it twice will turn it off. > > > > > > -- > > Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) > > Streaming Media Hacker > > www.myplay.com > > > > Listening to..... Floorgasm II - The Hard House Years > > http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?plid=381576&start=1 > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From mark at knm.org Thu Mar 22 20:05:03 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:05:03 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Stuttering stream after 1 minute In-Reply-To: <002601c0b2b6$32613fc0$2564a8c0@fastnet.ph20.nl> Message-ID: <200103222005.NAA08266@home.knm.org> > After one minute of connection the stream from our icecast 1.3.10 > server (debian package 1.3.10-2) starts stuttering. And after some > stuttering the client is disconnected by the server. The usual > client is a windows winamp. This is a well-known problem. I have a patch that works, but isn't quite acceptable for systems with tons of listeners... if you are like me and only have a few listeners, you'll want it. Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. 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From un at king.dom.de Thu Mar 22 20:29:26 2001 From: un at king.dom.de (un) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:29:26 +0100 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <3ABA416F.53D2BE9E@performantsystems.com> Message-ID: <20010322212926.A9586@king.dom.de> Big Al: > > A tutorial on successful use of Icecast Static streaming (on demand) is > available here: > > http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/IcecastStaticHOWTO.html > maybe silly question, but where's the difference in pointing directly to the mp3-file instead to a *.m3u ? besides, my netscape/linux seems to have problems with the suffix .m3u, mime-type is set, but rather nothing happens. m3u is handled by plugger3.2 any idea? thx, uno > > Asymmetric wrote: > > > At 10:30 3/22/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I > > >have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to > > >them on a web page. > > > > Yes, and the info on how to do that is all in the documentation/readme and > > the comment blurbs in the config file. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at techminer.net Thu Mar 22 23:16:40 2001 From: matt at techminer.net (Matt Mencel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:16:40 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Core dumps... Message-ID: <007e01c0b326$269b1240$8f00a8c0@cmitech.com> Hey I got it working!! OpenBSD 2.8, Icecast 1.3.10, Lame 3, mpg123, liveice, and aumix 2.7 to control the line-in level. I'm feeding the stream from a portable radio into the line-in on my sound card. It sounds pretty darn good. Thanks to those of you who've helped me out in the last day or so. Now if I could keep it from core dumping. Icecast will core dump within 2 seconds the first time I start it. The second time it lasts a bit longer. After that it will stay up for 5-10 minutes before dumping. After doing this several more times it will finally stay up for I don't know how long. I had it up for 3 hours earlier today after I restarted Icecast about 4 times. Matt Mencel --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tposton1 at swbell.net Thu Mar 22 23:28:04 2001 From: tposton1 at swbell.net (Todd Poston) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:28:04 -0600 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <20010322212926.A9586@king.dom.de> Message-ID: <002601c0b327$be7e0440$0400005a@suppity.com> if you point most clients to an mp3 file the entire file must be downloaded before it can start playing. The .m3u and .pls files tell an mp3 client to start downloading and buffer the mp3 so that it can play it while it is downloading. The biggest issue with streaming this way is that if the file is encoded at a bitrate that is higher than can be downloaded by (or served to) the client due to bandwidth limits, the file will sound like crap if it plays at all...or the buffer has to be increased so much that you might as well just download the mp3. I have 128kbs upload limit so if I stream files this way I can just barely listen to it without it clicking and breaking off..it also means that only 1 person can listen at a time for 128kbs mp3's. The other problem with this is that you cannot control how many people are downloading this way.. which means that your bandwidth could just dry up and noone would be able to listen. To really address this issue you could write a script (php, perl, asp) that reads the binary file (mp3) from disk, and then streams it thru the http connection. This is commonly done to serve secure images or other documents (such as pdf's) individually where you can have the script check user permissions before serving the file, and in this case, inform listeners that the server is full. The other benefit of playlist files (.m3u, .pls, etc) is that you can specify a list of songs to be played this way instead of just one file at a time..you can also use these to point to your stream. This allows you to include a "welcome" mp3 message if you want :) hope that helps explain it ~Jackstraw ----- Original Message ----- From: "un" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available > Big Al: > > > > A tutorial on successful use of Icecast Static streaming (on demand) is > > available here: > > > > http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/IcecastStaticHOWTO.html > > > > maybe silly question, but where's the difference in pointing > directly to the mp3-file instead to a *.m3u ? > besides, my netscape/linux seems to have problems with the suffix .m3u, > mime-type is set, but rather nothing happens. m3u is handled by plugger3.2 > any idea? > thx, uno > > > > > > > Asymmetric wrote: > > > > > At 10:30 3/22/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I > > > >have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to > > > >them on a web page. > > > > > > Yes, and the info on how to do that is all in the documentation/readme and > > > the comment blurbs in the config file. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ramzeus at home.se Thu Mar 22 23:55:38 2001 From: ramzeus at home.se (Patrik Lindahl) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:55:38 +0100 Subject: [icecast] 64 Kbit -> 24 Kbit Message-ID: <8047220956.20010323005538@home.se> Hello! I want to set up a rely server for a stream. The original stream is 64 Kbit/s, and I want the relay to be 24 Kbit/s. Can anybody tell me how to do that? Should I use Lame and mpg123? And in that case how do I do that? I don't have a soundcard... ~~ Patrik Lindahl mailto:ramzeus at home.se --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From un at king.dom.de Fri Mar 23 00:33:57 2001 From: un at king.dom.de (un) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:33:57 +0100 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <002601c0b327$be7e0440$0400005a@suppity.com> Message-ID: <20010323013357.A13603@king.dom.de> Todd Poston: > if you point most clients to an mp3 file the entire file must be downloaded > before it can start playing. i see. haven't seen this behavior before, but i'm only on linux, so this doesn't mean much. so, would it also be 'safer' to use a dummy m3u-file for a stream-url, instead of pointing directly to some http://server:port/mountpoint ? (in sense of compatibility for various clients) and does the suffix (*.pls, *.m3u) make any difference? i checked with xmms & freeamp, both seem to do the same thing, means playing the stream or file. mpg123 doesn't like it... > hope that helps explain it yes, thanks. i haven't spent much thoughts on playing static files, but a m3u/pls seems pretty useful ;) perfect for creating playlists out of a database etc. is there some format description for these playlist files? thx, uno --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tposton1 at swbell.net Fri Mar 23 02:18:45 2001 From: tposton1 at swbell.net (Todd Poston) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:18:45 -0600 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <20010323013357.A13603@king.dom.de> Message-ID: <003901c0b33f$968cdf20$0400005a@suppity.com> > Todd Poston: > > if you point most clients to an mp3 file the entire file must be downloaded > > before it can start playing. > > i see. haven't seen this behavior before, but i'm only on linux, so this well i should have said before i'm a win32 user and really just use winamp for my client so I really can't say anything about linux mp3 clients :| >would it also be 'safer' to use a dummy m3u-file > for a stream-url, instead of pointing directly to some > http://server:port/mountpoint ? (in sense of compatibility for various > clients) Some say pointing to the stream directly isn't good practice, but I think all the mp3 players that support streaming accept that kind of link so it's really up to you. But you would also be alright by using a playlist file to point to the stream. > and does the suffix (*.pls, *.m3u) make any difference? i checked with > xmms & freeamp, both seem to do the same thing, means playing the stream or > file. mpg123 doesn't like it... > is there some format description for these playlist files? As I understand it .pls is more generic "playlist" file format, while m3u is typically mp3. Here is a good resource for .pls files. I use .pls files personally... winamp, realplayer, and media player all support it, as I believe all the linux ones do as well (please correct me if i'm wrong). http://www.shoutclub.com/help/linking.php3 :) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From chowda at chowda.net Fri Mar 23 03:07:15 2001 From: chowda at chowda.net (Dan Bachelder) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:07:15 -0500 Subject: [icecast] content on demand? In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010322102910.00a6ead0@212.78.70.53> Message-ID: <003001c0b346$5df517c0$0200000a@suscommaine.net> I am using JRev with a MySQL backend.. i have it set up to get the row out of my "playtable" with the highest "orderColumn" value and play the song in the "fileLocation" column then remove the row.... I am working on a web interface... i know this doesn't help you much, but it sure is fun to set up... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Scott" To: Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: [icecast] content on demand? > Hi, > > Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I have > some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to them on a > web page. > > Thanks, > > Glen > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Design Solution Limited > t: +44 (0)1502 513008 > f: +44 (0)1502 588622 > e: info at designsolution.co.uk > w: http://www.designsolution.co.uk > Nouvotech House, Harbour Road, > Oulton Broad, Suffolk, NR32 3LZ, UK > ----------------------------------------------------- > Graphic Design - Web development - Hosting > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From music at performantsystems.com Fri Mar 23 03:06:06 2001 From: music at performantsystems.com (Big Al) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:06:06 -0800 Subject: [icecast] content on demand HOWTO available In-Reply-To: <20010322212926.A9586@king.dom.de> Message-ID: <3ABABD9E.92699FCD@performantsystems.com> >maybe silly question, but where's the difference in pointing >directly to the mp3-file instead to a *.m3u ? Valid question. The .m3u file is known to the browser and player as a playlist file, a text file of about a hundred bytes containing the address of the actual .mp3 file to stream, ex: #EXTM3U #EXTINF:-1,song.mp3 http://www.modernamericanmusic.com:8000/file/song.mp3 You could type in this whole URL as above, but the .m3u file handles this automatically. Usually, sending the .mp3 file causes the browser / player to download the whole 3-5 Meg file, when we really want to start a stream. >besides, my netscape/linux seems to have problems with the suffix .m3u, >mime-type is set, but rather nothing happens. m3u is handled by plugger3.2 Yes, you may have to educate your browser to politely handle .m3u or even .mp3 files I wrote up a little tutorial on this at: http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/techtips.html -Big Al un wrote: > Big Al: > > > > A tutorial on successful use of Icecast Static streaming (on demand) is > > available here: > > > > http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/IcecastStaticHOWTO.html > > > > maybe silly question, but where's the difference in pointing > directly to the mp3-file instead to a *.m3u ? > besides, my netscape/linux seems to have problems with the suffix .m3u, > mime-type is set, but rather nothing happens. m3u is handled by plugger3.2 > any idea? > thx, uno > > > > > Asymmetric wrote: > > > > > At 10:30 3/22/2001 +0000, you wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >Does Icecast support streaming on demand as Shoutcast does? i.e. if I > > > >have some MP3 files in a directory, can these be streamed if I link to > > > >them on a web page. > > > > > > Yes, and the info on how to do that is all in the documentation/readme and > > > the comment blurbs in the config file. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoodman at sonusnet.com Fri Mar 23 13:06:58 2001 From: tgoodman at sonusnet.com (Todd Goodman) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:06:58 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Icecast and LiveIce-XMMS Working! Message-ID: <20010323080658.Q4523@skarn.sonusnet.com> Previously I mentioned some problems I was having getting LiveIce and Icecast working. Everything is working so I wanted to get the archives updated with the solutions. The first was just my player I was streaming to needed a much larger buffer configured (stupid, but I'm just starting up with streaming). The problem I had with LiveIce streams being unlistenable was due to the wrong input stream being selected on the LiveIce box (again, stupid). Finally, what I really wanted was to run LiveIce-XMMS since I have a jukebox app that plays via XMMS. It used to be that as soon as I enabled LiveIce-XMMS that XMMS would core. Happily after upgrading to the latest CVS for LiveIce-XMMS and 1.2.4 for XMMS everything is copacetic. It works great! Now, if I can just get title streaming working without getting out of sync (and getting clicks on the listeners unless they stop and restart the stream) then everything would be awesome. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for the help, Todd --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Sun Mar 25 17:55:36 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:55:36 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Keeps Dying Message-ID: I just upgraded to 1.3.10 and I'm using it with Ices from CVS. The server only stays alive for about 12 hours before it dies. You start seeing this: [24/Mar/2001:17:51:50] [6:Source Thread] Lost connection to source on mount /mediofi, waiting 30 seconds for timeout [24/Mar/2001:17:51:50] [5:Source Thread] Lost connection to source on mount /lofi, waiting 30 seconds for timeout [24/Mar/2001:17:51:50] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... Looks like maybe Ices is giving up... Is is possible that Ices is setup not to repeat it's playlist (i.e. loop it forever)? Any help is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From seppo at sormunen.com Sun Mar 25 17:52:15 2001 From: seppo at sormunen.com (Seppo Sormunen) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:52:15 +0300 Subject: [icecast] Latest Windows version ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010325205030.009e3410@myrealbox.com> What is the latest Win32s version ? Where can it be found ? I noticed that there aren't anymore win32 version in icecast.org download page. -LazyJeff- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hunter at lastonepicked.com Sun Mar 25 21:00:56 2001 From: hunter at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:00:56 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Ices Looping Message-ID: I'm wondering if Ices (CVS) loops it's playlist automatically or if I have to add something to the configuration. I looked through all the docs and found no reference to looping... Hunter -- Hunter Hillegas hunter at lastonepicked.com Who is Sharky Towers? What is BroTools? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Sun Mar 25 20:18:39 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:18:39 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Ices Looping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010325221839.F148@dyne.org> On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 01:00:56PM -0800, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > I'm wondering if Ices (CVS) loops it's playlist automatically or if I have > to add something to the configuration. > > I looked through all the docs and found no reference to looping... i guess you should be looking into the code if you find nothing in the docu. it's not such a dirty job after all, c'mon. if you *need* a reliable solution pay someone or do-it-yourself afaik that's the deal > User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 mmm, this sounds bad you know ;-> -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From un at king.dom.de Sun Mar 25 21:13:36 2001 From: un at king.dom.de (un) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:13:36 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Ices Looping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010325231336.B12217@king.dom.de> Hunter Hillegas: > I'm wondering if Ices (CVS) loops it's playlist automatically or if I have > to add something to the configuration. > > I looked through all the docs and found no reference to looping... > well, it loops, out of the box, i recognized. (at least the tarball from icecast.org, didn't try cvs) check it with a mini playlist of one song... uno --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Sun Mar 25 21:22:09 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:22:09 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Ices Looping In-Reply-To: <20010325221839.F148@dyne.org> Message-ID: Yeah, I'm not a big C guy so looking through the code isn't as easy as asking a simple question on the list. Other mailing lists I'm on are usually happy to share information like, especially if it's not in the docs. Not sure why you have to cop such an attitude. As far as MS Entourage goes, how much do you know about MS' MacOS X products? Show me an open-source MacOS X mail client that can handle POP and IMAP accounts, iCalendar over the Net, sync contacts with the Palm and maintain a cohesive database that links all mail items together intelligently and I will switch. Thanks for your help. Hunter > From: jaromil > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:18:39 +0200 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Ices Looping > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 01:00:56PM -0800, Hunter Hillegas wrote: >> I'm wondering if Ices (CVS) loops it's playlist automatically or if I have >> to add something to the configuration. >> >> I looked through all the docs and found no reference to looping... > > i guess you should be looking into the code if you find nothing in the > docu. it's not such a dirty job after all, c'mon. > > if you *need* a reliable solution pay someone or do-it-yourself > afaik that's the deal > >> User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 > > mmm, this sounds bad you know ;-> --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Sun Mar 25 21:23:12 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:23:12 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Ices Looping In-Reply-To: <20010325231336.B12217@king.dom.de> Message-ID: Yeah, I just switched to Ices from Shout, which needs a loop parameter in it's conf... Ices quit sending data to Icecast so I figured maybe it just wasn't set to loop properly... I guess I need to do some more tests. Thanks for your help. Hunter > From: un > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:13:36 +0200 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Ices Looping > > Hunter Hillegas: >> I'm wondering if Ices (CVS) loops it's playlist automatically or if I have >> to add something to the configuration. >> >> I looked through all the docs and found no reference to looping... >> > > well, it loops, out of the box, i recognized. (at least the tarball from > icecast.org, didn't try cvs) check it with a mini playlist of one song... > uno > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From hunter at lastonepicked.com Mon Mar 26 06:13:43 2001 From: hunter at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:13:43 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Problems with 1.3.10 and Ices (CVS) Message-ID: I'm having problems with this combination. I thought it was problems with Ices but I'm not so sure... I start Icecast and Ices and send them to the background. Usually about 10-12 hours later, they are dead. The icecast.log file shows this: [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] ERROR: Could not create new thread, retrying [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] System won't let me create more threads, giving up [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Cleanly shutting down... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Closing all listening sockets... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Telling threads to die... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Closing sockets for admins that keep hanging around... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Closing sockets for sources that keep hanging around... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [0:Main Thread] Closing all remaining sockets... [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [5:Source Thread] Kicking all 18 clients for source 1 [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [5:Source Thread] Kicking client 14 [somewhere.com] [Stream ended] [listener], connected for 6 hours, 40 minutes an d 42 seconds, 71997585 bytes transfered. 24 clients connected [25/Mar/2001:16:09:41] [5:Source Thread] Kicking client 1239 [somewhere] [Stream ended] [listener], connected for 2 hours, 56 minutes an d 40 seconds, 83369105 bytes transfered. 24 clients connected Why would it be unable to create new threads? The server is a Red Hat Linux box. Intel. 2.2.12 kernel... Any ideas? Thanks, Hunter -- Hunter Hillegas hunter at lastonepicked.com Who is Sharky Towers? What is BroTools? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From oddsock at oddsock.org Mon Mar 26 18:09:41 2001 From: oddsock at oddsock.org (Oddsock) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:09:41 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Winamp DSP and Icecast Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010326100549.02c63b58@oddsock.org> in case anyone is interested, I have encorporated Icecast support into the Winamp DSP plugin that I have written. It supports mountpoints and the x-audiocast headers for song title updates and can also be DSP stacked thus allowing you to send multiple bitrates to the same Icecast server (via different mountpoints)...oh, and it's free too.... http://www.oddsock.org/tools/dsp_oddcast oddsock --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ronanoc at parthus.com Tue Mar 27 10:30:49 2001 From: ronanoc at parthus.com (Ronan O'Ciosoig) Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:30:49 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Creating a client Message-ID: <3AC06BD9.B176C8E2@parthus.com> Hi all. Slightly off topic here but I was wondering if anyone here can give me some info on creating a client for an Icecast server. Some months ago I made a simple client (in Java) but was not able to get a reliable glitch free stream and it would only play for a minute or two before the Icecast server would dump the stream with the 'too many errors' complaint. Are there guidelines (suggestions) for buffer sizes in relation to bit rates etc.? All suggestions welcome... BTW: The aim here is to create a hardware client on a dsp for icecast. Thanks in advance. -- _________________________________ Ronan O'Ciosoig Parthus Technologies plc. 32-34 Harcourt St. Dublin 2, Ireland. T: +353 1 402-2503 M: +353 (0)87 22 33 424 E: ronan.ociosoig at parthus.com I: www.parthus.com Parthus - Powering the Mobile-Internet _________________________________ I tell it like it is. _________________________________ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From crosser at online.ru Tue Mar 27 11:06:37 2001 From: crosser at online.ru (Eugene Crosser) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:06:37 +0400 (MSD) Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.10 problems In-Reply-To: <3AC06BD9.B176C8E2@parthus.com> Message-ID: First, src/vsnprintf.[ch] where not added to cvs, version checked out off CVS does not build. Second, src/main.c *still* does not build on Linux 2.4.x based systems - it is necessary to #include somewhere. Eugene --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From asym at rfnj.org Tue Mar 27 11:36:07 2001 From: asym at rfnj.org (Asymmetric) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:36:07 -0500 Subject: [icecast] metadata idea for coders Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010327063014.00c44028@216.200.176.7> I haven't looked at the code so forgive me if this is already what it's doing.. Considering the problems with the current metadata implementation.. couldn't it be changed to just cache the data that comes from the source in order to update it if it changes, and then just send it down to the listening clients then in the form of an ID3V2 tag when they first connect, and then only when it changes? I'm not entirely sure if they would show the data, but I think they would.. and if they don't, it won't hurt anything, since they don't contain a valid sync sequence. I don't use X on any of my freebsd boxes and thus don't have a half-decent gui to try this on myself.. but I may try and compile it under windows with BC5 which I do have on my windows box. If it works without too much hassle, I'll try and come up with a patch if none of the project coders are willing to do it. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 445 streams - 40kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Tue Mar 27 16:02:57 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:02:57 -0800 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.10 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can you detail what's needed to build on 2.4.x if you know? I have to do that later this week. Anyone had any good/bad experiences with Icecast on 2.4 or 2.4 in general? Hunter > From: Eugene Crosser > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:06:37 +0400 (MSD) > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.10 problems > > First, src/vsnprintf.[ch] where not added to cvs, version checked out > off CVS does not build. > > Second, src/main.c *still* does not build on Linux 2.4.x based systems - > it is necessary to #include somewhere. > > Eugene > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arvid at playrec.dk Tue Mar 27 16:23:48 2001 From: arvid at playrec.dk (Arvid Gregersen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:23:48 +0200 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem Message-ID: <00a101c0b6da$4e3cb120$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Hi, I use liveice/icecast on a linux box redhat 6 (2.2.18) and my problem is that the streamed audio gets chopped -on the LAN!!! The audio is encoded in 32kbps and I have a 512kbps/512kbps connection, so it should be enough to stream several connections at once. It sounds just like when a cd gets dirty or scracthed on the back. Anyway, it seems to go away if you can endure the terrible sound for a while, or you restart winamp. F. ex. suddenly it would work on 1 client and then I try another client which then has the same problem. Irritating. What can I do to make it work from the beginning? Sincerely Arvid www.playrec.dk -for all kinds of good music ICQ# 724069 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 27 17:18:46 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:18:46 -0800 Subject: [icecast] Creating a client In-Reply-To: <3AC06BD9.B176C8E2@parthus.com> Message-ID: <20010327091846.J3141@tk421.icecast.org> > Some months ago I made a simple client (in Java) but was not able to get a reliable glitch free > stream and it would only play for a minute or two before the Icecast server would dump the stream > with the 'too many errors' complaint. It's entirely possible that java wasn't fast enough and you weren't in fact able to keep up with the stream. You might want to try with a lower bitrate or a different JIT. > Are there guidelines (suggestions) for buffer sizes in relation to bit rates etc.? I think most people have a default 64k buffer size, and they prebuffer from 25% to 50% of it. Each client is probably slightly different. The more prebuffer you have, the more resilient you are going to be when there are data flow problems, but of course, you'll have to wait longer for the stream to start. > BTW: The aim here is to create a hardware client on a dsp for icecast. That would be interesting to see :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 27 17:21:48 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:21:48 -0800 Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.10 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010327092148.K3141@tk421.icecast.org> > First, src/vsnprintf.[ch] where not added to cvs, version checked out > off CVS does not build. You're right. I forgot to cvs add them. They are now in the repository. > Second, src/main.c *still* does not build on Linux 2.4.x based systems - > it is necessary to #include somewhere. I could have sworn that I have the 2.4 headers installed on this machine, and it builds fine here. Do you know what specific piece of resource.h is needed? What are we using from there? jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 27 17:26:42 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:26:42 -0800 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <00a101c0b6da$4e3cb120$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20010327092642.L3141@tk421.icecast.org> Does this happen at the beginning, or always after 30 seconds, or what? Are you using shout? Are these VBR files? Do you have use_metadata turned on in the icecast config? jack. > I use liveice/icecast on a linux box redhat 6 (2.2.18) and my problem is that the streamed audio gets chopped -on the LAN!!! The audio is encoded in 32kbps and I have a 512kbps/512kbps connection, so it should be enough to stream several connections at once. It sounds just like when a cd gets dirty or scracthed on the back. Anyway, it seems to go away if you can endure the terrible sound for a while, or you restart winamp. F. ex. suddenly it would work on 1 client and then I try another client which then has the same problem. Irritating. What can I do to make it work from the beginning? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arvid at playrec.dk Tue Mar 27 16:41:33 2001 From: arvid at playrec.dk (Arvid Gregersen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:41:33 +0200 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <20010327092642.L3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <00b101c0b6dc$c8c52ec0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> I do use metadate since i need people to see the titles. I use livecast in mixer mode. The chopping starts right away I don't use VBR (I commented it out at least). The mp3's are made with XING audiocatalyst (for windows) so I don't really know. Sorry. Arvid ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Moffitt To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] chopped audio problem > Does this happen at the beginning, or always after 30 seconds, or what? > Are you using shout? Are these VBR files? Do you have use_metadata > turned on in the icecast config? > > jack. > > > I use liveice/icecast on a linux box redhat 6 (2.2.18) and my problem is that the streamed audio gets chopped -on the LAN!!! The audio is encoded in 32kbps and I have a 512kbps/512kbps connection, so it should be enough to stream several connections at once. It sounds just like when a cd gets dirty or scracthed on the back. Anyway, it seems to go away if you can endure the terrible sound for a while, or you restart winamp. F. ex. suddenly it would work on 1 client and then I try another client which then has the same problem. Irritating. What can I do to make it work from the beginning? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 27 17:37:58 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:37:58 -0800 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <00b101c0b6dc$c8c52ec0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20010327093758.M3141@tk421.icecast.org> Turn off metadata and see if the problem goes away. Just for grins. metadata should work fine. I tested jwz's 1.3.10 server yesterday. jack. > I do use metadate since i need people to see the titles. > I use livecast in mixer mode. > The chopping starts right away > I don't use VBR (I commented it out at least). The mp3's are made with XING audiocatalyst (for windows) so I don't really know. Sorry. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Tue Mar 27 16:44:19 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:44:19 -0500 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <20010327093758.M3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010327114244.00c75d88@64.7.7.83> At 09:37 3/27/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Turn off metadata and see if the problem goes away. Just for grins. > >metadata should work fine. I tested jwz's 1.3.10 server yesterday. metadata doesn't work fine.. it works for longer periods than it did before.. but if I have it on, it invariably starts goofing up the stream and I get a sound somewhat like a train wreck out of my speakers. I had to switch back to sc because of this.. email complaints about not having song titles show up in players, and then.. well.. you can imagine the complaints about the out of sync noises. So far it hasn't worked right with me in 1.3.{7,9,10} -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 445 streams - 40kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Tue Mar 27 17:53:27 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:53:27 -0800 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010327114244.00c75d88@64.7.7.83> Message-ID: <20010327095327.P3141@tk421.icecast.org> > metadata doesn't work fine.. it works for longer periods than it did > before.. but if I have it on, it invariably starts goofing up the stream > and I get a sound somewhat like a train wreck out of my speakers. I had to > switch back to sc because of this.. email complaints about not having song > titles show up in players, and then.. well.. you can imagine the complaints > about the out of sync noises. > > So far it hasn't worked right with me in 1.3.{7,9,10} How long does it take to fail? I definately saw it working for 30-40 minutes on jwz's server. I didn't stay connected for much longer than that at a time. What client are you using? Xmms seems to have a bug in it somewhere that causes it to get out of whack on the first song change. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Tue Mar 27 16:59:08 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:59:08 -0500 Subject: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <20010327095327.P3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010327115642.00c83fc8@64.7.7.83> At 09:53 3/27/2001 -0800, you wrote: >How long does it take to fail? I definately saw it working for 30-40 >minutes on jwz's server. I didn't stay connected for much longer than >that at a time. Hmm.. sometimes it won't fail for a few hours... sometimes it happens right away, within 30-40 seconds or so. >What client are you using? Xmms seems to have a bug in it somewhere >that causes it to get out of whack on the first song change. I source from winamp 2.73 with the 1.8.0 dsp.. I tried winamp, sonique and freeamp all as clients... they all exhibited it after a while. I'm most concerned with winamp though, probably 95% + of the clients that connect to my stream are running winamp. -------signature file------- PGP Key Fingerprint: 446B 7718 B219 9F1E 43DD 8E4A 6BE9 D739 CCC5 7FD7 "I don't think [Linux] will be very successful in the long run." "My experience and some of my friends' experience is that Linux is quite unreliable. Microsoft is really unreliable but Linux is worse." -Ken Thompson, Interview May 1999. http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.rfnj.org Radio Free New Jersey - 445 streams - 40kbps @ 22khz Stereo http://namespace.org -- http://name.space Resist the ICANN! Support name.space! --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arvid at playrec.dk Tue Mar 27 17:07:29 2001 From: arvid at playrec.dk (Arvid Gregersen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:07:29 +0200 Subject: Sv: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <20010327093758.M3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <00cb01c0b6e0$68c45240$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> I just found out something weird about this. In realplayer it doesn't chop as much, but is does shut the entire stream off all the time (every 45 seconds or so). Weird. I tried disabling metadata and everything got REALLY messed up. Chopped audio to a point where a song 4.5 minutes long takes 1.5 minutes. What to do? Arvid ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Moffitt To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] chopped audio problem > Turn off metadata and see if the problem goes away. Just for grins. > > metadata should work fine. I tested jwz's 1.3.10 server yesterday. > > jack. > > > I do use metadate since i need people to see the titles. > > I use livecast in mixer mode. > > The chopping starts right away > > I don't use VBR (I commented it out at least). The mp3's are made with XING audiocatalyst (for windows) so I don't really know. Sorry. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arvid at playrec.dk Tue Mar 27 17:17:53 2001 From: arvid at playrec.dk (Arvid Gregersen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:17:53 +0200 Subject: Sv: [icecast] chopped audio problem In-Reply-To: <20010327093758.M3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: <00d701c0b6e1$dc60c480$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> great I changed it back and now the problem persists. Now the stream is totally wasted. This is getting on my nerves! Does anyone have icecast.conf (perhaps also a liveice.cfg) that works for them streaming mp3's with a playlist? I would like to see them and compare to mine that have just gone to hell... Arvid ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Moffitt To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] chopped audio problem > Turn off metadata and see if the problem goes away. Just for grins. > > metadata should work fine. I tested jwz's 1.3.10 server yesterday. > > jack. > > > I do use metadate since i need people to see the titles. > > I use livecast in mixer mode. > > The chopping starts right away > > I don't use VBR (I commented it out at least). The mp3's are made with XING audiocatalyst (for windows) so I don't really know. Sorry. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From crosser at online.ru Tue Mar 27 17:34:02 2001 From: crosser at online.ru (Eugene Crosser) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:34:02 +0400 (MSD) Subject: [icecast] icecast 1.3.10 problems In-Reply-To: <20010327092148.K3141@tk421.icecast.org> Message-ID: On 27-Mar-01 at 20:22, Jack Moffitt (jack at icecast.org) wrote: > > Second, src/main.c *still* does not build on Linux 2.4.x based systems - > > it is necessary to #include somewhere. > > I could have sworn that I have the 2.4 headers installed on this > machine, and it builds fine here. Do you know what specific piece of > resource.h is needed? What are we using from there? gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -D_REENTRANT -g -O2 -Wall -c main.c main.c: In function `increase_maximum_number_of_open_files': main.c:193: storage size of `before' isn't known main.c:193: storage size of `after' isn't known main.c:195: warning: implicit declaration of function `getrlimit' main.c:195: `RLIMIT_NOFILE' undeclared (first use in this function) main.c:195: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once main.c:195: for each function it appears in.) main.c:206: warning: implicit declaration of function `setrlimit' main.c:193: warning: unused variable `after' main.c:193: warning: unused variable `before' main.c: In function `clean_shutdown': main.c:547: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `main_shutting_down' make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 My setup maybe somewhat abnormal: it is an oldish Slackware that was selectively upgraded over time. It has /usr/include/{linux,asm} symlinked into kernel source tree (which is discouraged these days). Anyway, above is the error output... Eugene --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mmatt at freew3.com Tue Mar 27 23:02:26 2001 From: mmatt at freew3.com (Matt Mencel) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:02:26 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Socket error... Message-ID: <000d01c0b711$fdca6240$8f00a8c0@cmitech.com> Has anyone else seen this? I'm running Redhat 7.0 now with Icecast 1.3.10, mpg123, lame3.88, and liveice. Icecast runs great and is receiving the audio from liveice no problem. The problem comes when I try to connect to Icecast from Winamp on another PC. Icecast shows it accepts the client but Winamp never starts playing or buffering. About 15 seconds later Icecast reports that it is kicking the client and that there was a socket error on that connection. Help??? Matt --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From alexander at newald.de Wed Mar 28 14:57:37 2001 From: alexander at newald.de (Alexander Newald) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:57:37 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Logging problem Message-ID: <3AC1FBE1.459CD8B6@newald.de> Hello, I've got installed icecast 1.3.10 and it worked great since the release of it. But today I noticed that it stopped logging. I can see that it is touching the logfiles (accesstime is changing, lsof shows it) but nothing is appended to them. Also a restart dosn't help. Running linux with 2.2.16 kernel Alexander Newald -- Alexander Newald Internet presentation & Network solution Wunstorfer Stra?e 72 30453 Hannover - Germany Information: http://www.hannover-internet.de --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jabhice at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:18:43 2001 From: jabhice at hotmail.com (Abhijit Joshi) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:18:43 -0000 Subject: [icecast] Little Liveice Help Message-ID: Hi, I have one question, which is really stupid, but I should probably go ahead and ask. I am trying to take a live feed and stream it. The problem is, it works when I plug it into the 'Mic' input of my soundcard, but It doesnt work when I plug it into the 'Line-In' input of the soundcard. I mean the liveice doesnt stream anything in that case. I am usin 'NO_MIXER" mode and just using the soundcard. Is there any setting which will make it work when I plug feed into the line-in?I tried 'aumix' to adjust the various levels of the input but it didnt work. There is a newest version o icecast come now (icecast1.10) does this liveice work with that one? --Abhi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoodman at sonusnet.com Thu Mar 29 19:30:44 2001 From: tgoodman at sonusnet.com (Todd Goodman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:30:44 -0500 Subject: [icecast] Little Liveice Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010329143044.T923@skarn.sonusnet.com> Make sure you select line-in as the record source with aumix. This is different from the record levels. Todd * Abhijit Joshi [010329 13:19]: > Hi, > I have one question, which is really stupid, but I should probably go ahead > and ask. I am trying to take a live feed and stream it. The problem is, it > works when I plug it into the 'Mic' input of my soundcard, but It doesnt > work when I plug it into the 'Line-In' input of the soundcard. I mean the > liveice doesnt stream anything in that case. I am usin 'NO_MIXER" mode and > just using the soundcard. Is there any setting which will make it work > when I plug feed into the line-in?I tried 'aumix' to adjust the various > levels of the input but it didnt work. > There is a newest version o icecast come now (icecast1.10) does this > liveice work with that one? > --Abhi > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From maximo.monsalvo at guspamar.com.ar Fri Mar 30 15:04:06 2001 From: maximo.monsalvo at guspamar.com.ar (Maximo Monsalvo) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:04:06 -0300 Subject: [icecast] Little Liveice Help In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Little Liveice Help> Message-ID: <21788BAC58CFD311ABD300508B2F03CD087346@GUSPAMAR01> Set in to aumix rec from lin in Saludos -----Mensaje original----- De: Todd Goodman [mailto:tgoodman at sonusnet.com] Enviado el: jueves 29 de marzo de 2001 16:31 Para: icecast at xiph.org Asunto: Re: [icecast] Little Liveice Help Make sure you select line-in as the record source with aumix. This is different from the record levels. Todd * Abhijit Joshi [010329 13:19]: > Hi, > I have one question, which is really stupid, but I should probably go ahead > and ask. I am trying to take a live feed and stream it. The problem is, it > works when I plug it into the 'Mic' input of my soundcard, but It doesnt > work when I plug it into the 'Line-In' input of the soundcard. I mean the > liveice doesnt stream anything in that case. I am usin 'NO_MIXER" mode and > just using the soundcard. Is there any setting which will make it work > when I plug feed into the line-in?I tried 'aumix' to adjust the various > levels of the input but it didnt work. > There is a newest version o icecast come now (icecast1.10) does this > liveice work with that one? > --Abhi > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 30 16:59:32 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Walls) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:59:32 -0600 Subject: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct streams to a mount point? Message-ID: Is there a way to direct icecast to associate a stream from a particular source to a designated mount point? I've got two different streams I'm encoding that I'd like to make available on the same server. Currently, I have one going to /icy_0 and the other to /icy_1. That's okay for the moment, but if either the server or the two encoders reboot, the streams might reconnect in the other order. Bummer. So I'd like to tell icecast to always name the stream from one IP one thing, they other the other. Is there any way, either simple or tricky, to do this? -- Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (256)544-3311voice,544-7128fax http://science.nasa.gov http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From daleg at elemental.org Fri Mar 30 17:05:52 2001 From: daleg at elemental.org (Dale Ghent) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:05:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct streams to a mount point? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Bryan Walls wrote: | Is there a way to direct icecast to associate a stream from a | particular source to a designated mount point? | | I've got two different streams I'm encoding that I'd like to make | available on the same server. Currently, I have one going to /icy_0 | and the other to /icy_1. That's okay for the moment, but if either | the server or the two encoders reboot, the streams might reconnect in | the other order. Bummer. | | So I'd like to tell icecast to always name the stream from one IP one | thing, they other the other. Is there any way, either simple or | tricky, to do this? Why couldnt you have the stream specify it's own mount point name? Does your streaming software not support this? But to answer your question... no, icecast does/can not name a mount point in relation to it's source IP. /dale --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 30 17:21:17 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Walls) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:21:17 -0600 Subject: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct streamstoa mount point? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Bryan Walls wrote: > >| Is there a way to direct icecast to associate a stream from a >| particular source to a designated mount point? >| >| I've got two different streams I'm encoding that I'd like to make >| available on the same server. Currently, I have one going to /icy_0 >| and the other to /icy_1. That's okay for the moment, but if either >| the server or the two encoders reboot, the streams might reconnect in >| the other order. Bummer. >| >| So I'd like to tell icecast to always name the stream from one IP one >| thing, they other the other. Is there any way, either simple or >| tricky, to do this? > >Why couldnt you have the stream specify it's own mount point name? Does >your streaming software not support this? > >But to answer your question... no, icecast does/can not name a mount point >in relation to it's source IP. > >/dale > What streaming software does support naming the mount point? I'm familiar with WinAmp, and have been using MacAmp most recently, both with broadcast modules designed with Shoutcast in mind. It lets you specify: Address: Port: Password: Name: Genre: URL: IRC: ICQ: AIM: I tried using an address like -- Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (256)544-3311voice,544-7128fax http://science.nasa.gov http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov Fri Mar 30 17:28:16 2001 From: Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (Bryan Walls) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:28:16 -0600 Subject: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct streamstoamount point? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> >What streaming software does support naming the mount point? I'm >familiar with WinAmp, and have been using MacAmp most recently, both >with broadcast modules designed with Shoutcast in mind. MacAmp lets >you specify: >Address: >Port: >Password: >Name: >Genre: >URL: >IRC: >ICQ: >AIM: > >I tried using an address like http://qt.msfc.nasa.gov:8000/test/ to specify a stream, and that didn't work. Is there some trick to specifying a name? Sorry about that last message -- it went out prematurely! -- Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (256)544-3311voice,544-7128fax http://science.nasa.gov http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arvid at playrec.dk Fri Mar 30 17:55:59 2001 From: arvid at playrec.dk (Arvid Gregersen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:55:59 +0200 Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... Message-ID: <003e01c0b942$ae9a45e0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> and tell me that it is possible to make icecast broadcast titles or id3 tags. I refuse to believe that you all can talk so fondly of a program that gives you the ability to make a radiostation but not tell its listeners what is on the air.. That is just too weird.. So what do YOU do to tell people what they are listening to? Arvid www.playrec.dk -for all kinds of good music ICQ# 724069 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at icecast.org Fri Mar 30 18:23:10 2001 From: jack at icecast.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:23:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... In-Reply-To: <003e01c0b942$ae9a45e0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Message-ID: There are other ways to get that information to your listeners besides making them read it from a tiny window in their media player. Take a look at some of the other broadcasting apps for icecast. With a little work, you can give them titles, and all kinds of other information. We used to do it with the Green Witch Remote, and our users always wrote us about how they liked it. We never got one comment that we should put the title information into any of hte media players. Search freshmeant and/or sourceforge for 'icecast' or 'libshout' and see what you come up with. jack. On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Arvid Gregersen wrote: > and tell me that it is possible to make icecast broadcast titles or id3 tags. I refuse to believe that you all can talk so fondly of a program that gives you the ability to make a radiostation but not tell its listeners what is on the air.. That is just too weird.. So what do YOU do to tell people what they are listening to? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Fri Mar 30 18:36:39 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:36:39 +0200 Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... In-Reply-To: <003e01c0b942$ae9a45e0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20010330203639.D541@dyne.org> On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 07:55:59PM +0200, Arvid Gregersen wrote: > and tell me that it is possible to make icecast broadcast titles or id3 > tags. I refuse to believe that you all can talk so fondly of a program > that gives you the ability to make a radiostation but not tell its > listeners what is on the air.. That is just too weird.. So what do YOU > do to tell people what they are listening to? if you stream with MuSE (actually at the 0.6.1) you can easily specify metatags as title, url and description from confortable input fields embedded in the gui ( http://muse.dyne.org ). MuSE is GPL'ed software. as long one icecast server can eventually serve more than one radiostation i think there's really no point in complaining about a "missing feature". but maybe you're still dreaming ;) -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Fri Mar 30 18:38:28 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:38:28 -0700 Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... In-Reply-To: <003e01c0b942$ae9a45e0$0301a8c0@domain.cxm> Message-ID: <200103301838.LAA11778@home.knm.org> > and tell me that it is possible to make icecast broadcast titles or > id3 tags. I refuse to believe that you all can talk so fondly of a > program that gives you the ability to make a radiostation but not > tell its listeners what is on the air.. That is just too weird.. So > what do YOU do to tell people what they are listening to? There are three ways I know of - one is to make a cgi page that displays the current track. I store mine in a database and let the users see the past 10 tracks, and select choices to play next. Two, make sure you put id3v2 tags at the beginning of each mp3 file. Many players (but not all) will display this. XMMS will, Freeamp and mpg123 won't. Three, isn't there already a way to view metadata, through some kind of out-of-band connection? Freeamp always shows the title when it connects to the stream source (though this doesn't work if you're using an alias). Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at returntonature.com Fri Mar 30 19:15:04 2001 From: lists at returntonature.com (lists at returntonature.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... In-Reply-To: <20010330203639.D541@dyne.org> Message-ID: <1233.209.122.225.38.985979704.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> > if you stream with MuSE (actually at the 0.6.1) you can easily specify > metatags as title, url and description from confortable input fields > embedded in the gui ( http://muse.dyne.org ). MuSE is GPL'ed software. Is that title dynamic (ie: does it change per song to list the song name)? Or is it a one time static thing? Louis --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Fri Mar 30 19:59:04 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:59:04 +0200 Subject: [icecast] someone wake me up... In-Reply-To: <1233.209.122.225.38.985979704.squirrel@freakshow.returntonature.com> Message-ID: <20010330215904.E541@dyne.org> On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 02:15:04PM -0500, lists at returntonature.com wrote: > > if you stream with MuSE (actually at the 0.6.1) you can easily specify > > metatags as title, url and description from confortable input fields > > embedded in the gui ( http://muse.dyne.org ). MuSE is GPL'ed software. > > Is that title dynamic (ie: does it change per song to list the song name)? > Or is it a one time static thing? it's a one time static thing. id3v2 tags can do the job you're asking for, as mark said, but you have to check out if they're supported by players. -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ngorchilov at orbitel.bg Fri Mar 30 21:10:59 2001 From: ngorchilov at orbitel.bg (Nikolai Gorchilov) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:10:59 +0300 Subject: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct streamstoamount point? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hiya, There is another plugin which supports mounpoins AFAIK. http://www.oddsock.org/tools/dsp_oddcast/ Try it. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On > Behalf Of Bryan Walls > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:28 PM > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] newby question: Is there a way to direct > streamstoamount point? > > > >> > >What streaming software does support naming the mount point? I'm > >familiar with WinAmp, and have been using MacAmp most recently, both > >with broadcast modules designed with Shoutcast in mind. MacAmp lets > >you specify: > >Address: > >Port: > >Password: > >Name: > >Genre: > >URL: > >IRC: > >ICQ: > >AIM: > > > >I tried using an address like > http://qt.msfc.nasa.gov:8000/test/ to specify a stream, and that > didn't work. Is there some trick to specifying a name? > > Sorry about that last message -- it went out prematurely! > -- > Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. > Bryan.Walls at msfc.nasa.gov (256)544-3311voice,544-7128fax > http://science.nasa.gov http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov > http://kids.msfc.nasa.gov > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sean at rimboy.com Sat Mar 31 23:33:55 2001 From: sean at rimboy.com (Sean /The RIMBoy/) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:33:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: [icecast] Keeping icecast from kicking clients Message-ID: I'm trying to setup Icecast so that clients can stay connected indefinately. Basically sources will connect on occasion, but may disconnect until they get instructions to connect again (think about a jukebox that does not play music until something is selected. Now add in distrubuted, thin clients and you realize why this is an important feature). According to the icecast authors, it is possible to do this. However, I have yet to make it or see it work. Clients are immediately kicked by Icecast (1.3.10) and get a 404 not found. I saw this same response in 1.3.7. Anyway, here are the iterations of icecast.conf files that I've tried: Attempt 1 location Uranus rp_email you at your.com server_url www.your.com hostname 192.168.1.147 port 8000 port 8001 server_name 192.168.1.147 acl_policy 0 deny all * allow all 192.168.1.* max_clients 10 max_clients_per_source 10 max_sources 5 max_admins 5 throttle 10 console_mode 0 reverse_lookups 0 Attempt 2 location Uranus rp_email you at your.com server_url www.your.com hostname 192.168.1.147 port 8000 port 8001 server_name 192.168.1.147 client_timeout -1 acl_policy 0 deny all * allow all 192.168.1.* max_clients 10 max_clients_per_source 10 max_sources 5 max_admins 5 throttle 10 console_mode 0 reverse_lookups 0 Attempt 3 location Uranus rp_email you at your.com server_url www.your.com hostname 192.168.1.147 port 8000 port 8001 server_name 192.168.1.147 client_timeout -1 kick_clients 0 mount_fallback 1 acl_policy 0 deny all * allow all 192.168.1.* max_clients 10 max_clients_per_source 10 max_sources 5 max_admins 5 throttle 10 console_mode 0 reverse_lookups 0 Sean... -- A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish. --Chevy Chase, Caddyshack _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ www.rimboy.com <-- Your source for the crap you know you need. www.rimboy.com/rimdistro/rimiradio <-- Icecast server on a floppy! (i486+) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.