From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 1 04:39:50 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:39:50 -0400 Subject: [icecast] IceS 0.2.2 released Message-ID: <20010801003950.A3641@xanadu.kublai.com> I've just packaged up ices 0.2.2. You may find it at http://www.icecast.org/download.html. This release supports different hosts per mount. This requires you to update your config files, since the Server node has been moved inside the Stream tab. See the bundled config file for an example. The other gotcha is that it finally loads the perl module as a module, which means that you have to make sure your module returns a positive value at the end. Previously you could get away with omitting this. Playlist scripts are a bit friendlier now, in that you only have to define ices_get_next. The other functions are optional. There have also been more bug fixes (ok, mostly some buffer sizes have been doubled :)) which make ices more stable on other platforms or when reencoding odd or VBR mp3 files. > From the changelog: - 0.2.2 2001-08-01 - You can now specify the host and port for each mount point separately. In fact, you have to. - MP3 encoding output buffer size increased, seems to handle VBRs better, don't know why this is necessary at the moment. - Thread stack size increased again. - Write to stdout directly for usage/-V info, so it doesn't get swallowed if ices is configured to run in the background. - Include system configuration info in ices -V output. - Use setsid() to detach from tty, not setpgid(). - Load perl module as a proper module. This means you'd better return 1 at the end of your module. - Set PYTHONPATH reliably (not using an automatic variable), and removed the arbitrary length limit. - Log file no longer appends PID. In general I think this is a silly practice. I would have removed it from the cue file too, but a) I don't use the cue file, and b) it at least cleans up after itself on exit. - Build dependency bugs fixed. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed Aug 1 18:37:09 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:37:09 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? Message-ID: <3B684C55.7CAABA48@gactr.uga.edu> hello alexander... you may or may not be acquainted with the program otto; it is a web-based jukebox solution. it has the ability to play both locally as well as to an icecast server via ices. however, as there is not a static playlist, ices needs to to exit after streaming an individual song. the author of otto had the following suggestion for stream.c per ices-0.0.1.beta5: --- i modified the stream.c file in the src/ directory. here are my diffs: 65,66c65 < /* no i don't. -jon */ < /*while (1)*/ { --- > while (1) { 116c115 < /*continue;*/ return; --- > continue; 130d128 < /* now it is. -jon */ basically i just commented out the while loop and changed the continue to a return. --- how would i accomplish this using the latest CVS of ices? your help is greatly appreciated. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 1 16:52:22 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:52:22 -0600 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B684C55.7CAABA48@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801105222.H30159@i.cantcode.com> > hello alexander... This is not a helpful answer to your question, but.. Alex hasn't been very active in the last year, so I've handed maintainership of ices to Brendan Cully, who's doing a damn fine job. I'm sure he can figure out a satisfactory solution for this problem. I don't think that removing that while loop verbatim is safe. There probably needs to be a loop parameter which you can control. Also, if otto is starting up and shutting down ices each time (which is what it seems to be doing from your description), then it's broken. That is _not_ correct. There are two scripting language interfaces, plus the playlist interface for otto to use to select tracks, etc. Shutting down ices between songs is just wrong, and seeing that we've provided multiple ways to plug in required functionality, it just seems weird that otto isn't using it. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 1 18:46:48 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:46:48 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B684C55.7CAABA48@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801144648.D506@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 01 August 2001 at 14:37, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > you may or may not be acquainted with the program otto; it is > a web-based jukebox solution. it has the ability to play both > locally as well as to an icecast server via ices. however, as > there is not a static playlist, ices needs to to exit after > streaming an individual song. the author of otto had the following > suggestion for stream.c per ices-0.0.1.beta5: Well, someone else asked for this. I may add this option later. But really, it doesn't seem like the best way to do things. You don't want to set up and tear down your connection to the icecast server every track. Ices will reload the playlist file if it changes on disk. So if the file changes every track, everything will be fine. Alternatively you could write your MP3 to a FIFO, which ices could pipe to your icecast server. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darrellb at hhcl.com Wed Aug 1 18:56:34 2001 From: darrellb at hhcl.com (darrellb at hhcl.com) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:56:34 +0100 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <20010801144648.D506@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B6850E2.8E207401@hhcl.com> i have the same need, via otto Brendan Cully wrote: [snip] > Ices will reload the playlist file if it changes on disk. So if the > file changes every track, everything will be fine. Alternatively you > could write your MP3 to a FIFO, which ices could pipe to your icecast > server. that looks like an interesting alternative, tho i have no clue how to do that, and particularly in the context of otto (which, BTW is brilliant!) any examples? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed Aug 1 19:12:42 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:12:42 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B6850E2.8E207401@hhcl.com> Message-ID: <3B6854AA.39760EA4@gactr.uga.edu> > > Ices will reload the playlist file if it changes on disk. So if the > > file changes every track, everything will be fine. Alternatively you > > could write your MP3 to a FIFO, which ices could pipe to your icecast > > server. > > that looks like an interesting alternative, tho i have no clue how to do > that, and particularly in the context of otto (which, BTW is brilliant!) > any examples? You're right in that it sounds like a great solution/alternative... But the problem is that the playlist would need to modified after each song. And how do we know when the song is finished? ices knows when this happens, thus it would be fairly simple to have ices exit (rather than infintely loop) after it plays. Hence I am asking for advice on how to patch the ices client to exit after playing instead of looping, regardless of whether it is 'advisable' or not. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 1 17:28:54 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:28:54 -0600 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B6854AA.39760EA4@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801112854.K30159@i.cantcode.com> > You're right in that it sounds like a great solution/alternative... > But the problem is that the playlist would need to modified > after each song. And how do we know when the song is finished? > ices knows when this happens, thus it would be fairly simple to > have ices exit (rather than infintely loop) after it plays. You know what song is playing, where it's at, and how long is left to go, as well as other bits of info by reading the cue file. You're trying to do something that is not advisable and probably won't work consistently across server implementations, versions, etc. There's a reason we're trying to get you to do this the right way: 1) the wrong way is wrong 2) the right way is _easier_ 3) you'll report it as a bug when your hack-around stop working, even though we told you this would happen If you refuse to use the tools as they were designed, then you're free to write your own or modify them. As far as I can tell the end functionality that you require is built in quite nicely: You can modify the playlist externally using the cue file for guidance. You can write your own python or perl based playlist manager that accesses the database directly, etc. You can write your own C based playlist plugin. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 1 19:28:09 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:28:09 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B6854AA.39760EA4@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801152809.E506@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 01 August 2001 at 15:12, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > > > > Ices will reload the playlist file if it changes on disk. So if the > > > file changes every track, everything will be fine. Alternatively you > > > could write your MP3 to a FIFO, which ices could pipe to your icecast > > > server. > > > > that looks like an interesting alternative, tho i have no clue how to do > > that, and particularly in the context of otto (which, BTW is brilliant!) > > any examples? assuming otto can execute an arbitrary shell command whenever the track plays (I assume it can call whatever mp3 decoder you want), you can a) have a script that does something like echo $1 > /path/to/playlist.txt Then ices will reload the playlist file (size: one entry) at the end of the track. b) do mkfifo ices.fifo echo ices.fifo > playlist.txt run ices, and have otto do cat $1 > ices.fifo instead of calling its mp3 decoder. > You're right in that it sounds like a great solution/alternative... > But the problem is that the playlist would need to modified > after each song. And how do we know when the song is finished? ??? Modify it whenever you want. At the end of the track, ices will reload the playlist. You don't have to have things synchronised at all, except that you should modify the playlist before the next track starts. Alternatively use the (quite powerful) playlist engine. > ices knows when this happens, thus it would be fairly simple to > have ices exit (rather than infintely loop) after it plays. > > Hence I am asking for advice on how to patch the ices client > to exit after playing instead of looping, regardless of whether > it is 'advisable' or not. If you want something broken and stupid, the original patch you posted will probably work ok. Change 'while (1) {' to just '{'. Being young and naive, I am still surprised when people are willing to work twice as hard to do things the wrong way, just because they heard about that way first. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed Aug 1 20:24:21 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:24:21 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <20010801152809.E506@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B686575.AAF04E37@gactr.uga.edu> > If you want something broken and stupid, the original patch you posted > will probably work ok. Change 'while (1) {' to just '{'. > > Being young and naive, I am still surprised when people are willing to > work twice as hard to do things the wrong way, just because they heard > about that way first. > being old and lazy i'm willing to take the easy way out when its simply for me any my coworkers to listen to tunes... i'm not trying to argue that what i want to do is "right"; i just know that it will be easier to have ices not loop, than to rewrite otto. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 1 18:34:16 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:34:16 -0600 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B686575.AAF04E37@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801123416.P30159@i.cantcode.com> > i'm not trying to argue that what i want to do is "right"; i just > know that it will be easier to have ices not loop, than to rewrite otto. No one asked you to rewrite otto. But maybe getting the maintainer to do it correctly would be nice. This isn't our bug to fix :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed Aug 1 20:31:05 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:31:05 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <20010801123416.P30159@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <3B686709.42E21694@gactr.uga.edu> > > i'm not trying to argue that what i want to do is "right"; i just > > know that it will be easier to have ices not loop, than to rewrite otto. > > No one asked you to rewrite otto. But maybe getting the maintainer to > do it correctly would be nice. This isn't our bug to fix :) Nor did I ever claim that this was a bug. Perhaps I should have prefaced this entire discussion with: "I would like to know the optimal way to break your code so as to accomplish..." :) -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Wed Aug 1 20:37:25 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 16:37:25 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <20010801152809.E506@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B686885.EEE7ACD3@gactr.uga.edu> > assuming otto can execute an arbitrary shell command whenever the > track plays (I assume it can call whatever mp3 decoder you want), you > can > a) have a script that does something like > echo $1 > /path/to/playlist.txt > Then ices will reload the playlist file (size: one entry) at the end > of the track. > > b) do > mkfifo ices.fifo > echo ices.fifo > playlist.txt > run ices, > and have otto do > cat $1 > ices.fifo > instead of calling its mp3 decoder. *otto*'s (not ices) :) problem is that the playlist is dynamic and is written after a track is played. while a track is playing you users can submit/delete requests or it's little daemon will randomly select things. once a track is completed the top entry of that dynamic playlist is written as a file. otto only knows when a track has finished playing by it's spawned app (in this case, ices) exiting. hence all of this debate. believe me, i am working with it's maintainer on cleaning up his code. in the meantime, i would like to know the optimal way to force ices to exit, per-track. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 1 20:39:52 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:39:52 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B686885.EEE7ACD3@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010801163952.G506@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 01 August 2001 at 16:37, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > > assuming otto can execute an arbitrary shell command whenever the > > track plays (I assume it can call whatever mp3 decoder you want), you > > can > > a) have a script that does something like > > echo $1 > /path/to/playlist.txt > > Then ices will reload the playlist file (size: one entry) at the end > > of the track. > > > > b) do > > mkfifo ices.fifo > > echo ices.fifo > playlist.txt > > run ices, > > and have otto do > > cat $1 > ices.fifo > > instead of calling its mp3 decoder. > > > *otto*'s (not ices) :) problem is that the playlist is dynamic and is > written after a track is played. while a track is playing you users > can submit/delete requests or it's little daemon will randomly select things. > once a track is completed the top entry of that dynamic playlist is written > as a file. otto only knows when a track has finished playing by it's spawned > app (in this case, ices) exiting. hence all of this debate. In that case option b should work fine. otto can call cat $1 > ices.fifo which will exit when the track has finished. Then ices will close and reopen ices.fifo and wait for the next track. Problem solved? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From nick at ivision.co.uk Thu Aug 2 14:04:02 2001 From: nick at ivision.co.uk (Nick Ludlam) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:04:02 +0100 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/IceS irc? Message-ID: <019e01c11b5b$fbebe800$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision.co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> Just wonderin', is there an IRC channel that icecast developers log into at all? Nick --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Thu Aug 2 13:11:17 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:11:17 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/IceS irc? In-Reply-To: <019e01c11b5b$fbebe800$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision.co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> Message-ID: <20010802071117.T30159@i.cantcode.com> > Just wonderin', is there an IRC channel that icecast developers log into at all? We use the OpenProjects network at irc.openprojects.net and hang out in #icecast and #vorbis jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From msmith at labyrinth.net.au Thu Aug 2 14:09:49 2001 From: msmith at labyrinth.net.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 00:09:49 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Icecast/IceS irc? In-Reply-To: <019e01c11b5b$fbebe800$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision .co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010803000949.412cb750@mail.labyrinth.net.au> At 03:04 PM 8/2/01 +0100, you wrote: >Just wonderin', is there an IRC channel that icecast developers log into at all? irc.openprojects.net We're usually in #icecast and/or #vorbis. At least if you're there at the right time of day :-) Michael --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Craig.Latta at NetJam.ORG Fri Aug 3 02:07:19 2001 From: Craig.Latta at NetJam.ORG (Craig Latta) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:07:19 -0700 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box Message-ID: <3B6A0757.8B76E598@NetJam.ORG> Hi-- I've installed icecast2 and ices2 on an OpenBSD box. It all seems sane from the server side, but when I try to listen to my stream from winamp 2.76 with Peter Pawlowski's vorbis plugin (1.12), from a win98se box, nothing plays. Nothing is appended to the ices2 log, and the following is appended to the icescast2 log (when I terminate icecast2): *** [2001-08-02 22:05:16] INFO main/main icecast server started connection added.... DEBUG: source logging in connection added.... DEBUG: client coming in... DEBUG: source found for client DEBUG: sending ice-bitrate: 0 DEBUG: sending ice-description: A short description of your stream DEBUG: sending ice-genre: Example genre DEBUG: sending ice-name: Example stream name DEBUG: sending ice-public: 0 Client added SOURCE: recoverable error 35 SOURCE: client had unrecoverable error 32 with new data (-1/4203) DEBUG: Client dropped... DEBUG: got 0 bytes reading data, the source must have disconnected... DEBUG: we're going down... DEBUG: souce_main() is now exiting... [2001-08-02 22:11:31] INFO sighandler/_sig_die Caught signal 15, shutting down... [2001-08-02 22:11:31] INFO main/main Shutting down *** (I believe the "recoverable error" occured when I hit stop on winamp.) What should I do next? If you like, please try to listen to my stream, http://netjam.org:7777/example1.ogg; I'll leave it running. Also, how do I get icecast2 to append to the log immediately, instead of buffering messages and writing them all upon exit? thanks, -C -- Craig Latta composer and computer scientist craig.latta at netjam.org www.netjam.org crl at watson.ibm.com Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From smoerk at gmx.de Fri Aug 3 14:45:20 2001 From: smoerk at gmx.de (smoerk at gmx.de) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 16:45:20 +0200 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box In-Reply-To: <3B6A0757.8B76E598@NetJam.ORG> Message-ID: <20010803134441.1600918D02C@motherfish.xiph.org> On Thu, 02 Aug 2001 19:07:19 -0700, Craig Latta wrote: > >Hi-- > > I've installed icecast2 and ices2 on an OpenBSD box. It all >seems sane from the server side, but when I try to listen to my stream >>from winamp 2.76 with Peter Pawlowski's vorbis plugin (1.12), from a >win98se box, nothing plays. try the newest plugin and/or jorbis. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From nick at ivision.co.uk Fri Aug 3 15:29:55 2001 From: nick at ivision.co.uk (Nick Ludlam) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:29:55 +0100 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box In-Reply-To: <3B6A0757.8B76E598@NetJam.ORG> Message-ID: <009701c11c31$25bb6d60$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision.co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> From: "Craig Latta" > > Hi-- > > I've installed icecast2 and ices2 on an OpenBSD box. It all > seems sane from the server side, but when I try to listen to my stream > from winamp 2.76 with Peter Pawlowski's vorbis plugin (1.12), from a > win98se box, nothing plays. Nothing is appended to the ices2 log, and > the following is appended to the icescast2 log (when I terminate > icecast2): Not really related to your problem, but how smooth was the process of getting libogg and libvorbis installed? I've had all kinds of maddening autoconf related problems with include paths. Nick --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Fri Aug 3 13:40:33 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:40:33 -0600 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box In-Reply-To: <009701c11c31$25bb6d60$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision.co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> Message-ID: <20010803074033.R30159@i.cantcode.com> > Not really related to your problem, but how smooth was the process > of getting libogg and libvorbis installed? I've had all kinds of maddening > autoconf related problems with include paths. Should be braindead simple since it's in the ports tree. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From nick at ivision.co.uk Fri Aug 3 15:44:11 2001 From: nick at ivision.co.uk (Nick Ludlam) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:44:11 +0100 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box In-Reply-To: <20010803074033.R30159@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <00a901c11c33$242997e0$29e119d4@office.ivision.co.ukivision.co.ukinstantweb.co.ukinstantweb.net> From: "Jack Moffitt" > > Not really related to your problem, but how smooth was the process > > of getting libogg and libvorbis installed? I've had all kinds of maddening > > autoconf related problems with include paths. > > Should be braindead simple since it's in the ports tree. Heh, silly me. Having a braindead friday afternoon. Nick --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rickf at transpect.net Fri Aug 3 16:16:21 2001 From: rickf at transpect.net (Rick Franchuk) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:16:21 -0300 (ADT) Subject: [icecast] Fwd: Denial of Service in SHOUTcast Server 1.8.2 Linux/w32/? (fwd) Message-ID: Hey guys, Maybe a little OT, but I thought some of you might like to see this (originally on bugtraq)... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Vendor : Nullsoft Product : SHOUTcast Server 1.8.2 Linux/win32/? Date : 01/08/2001 CONTENTS 1. Overview 2. Details 3. Systems. 4. Denial of Service 5. Vendor Response 1. Overview: SHOUTcast Server is a streaming audio server. A "bad" client request can crash the server. 2. Details Server crash when get, seven times ( aprox ), a very long buffer (4KB) in fields: User-Agent and Host, in the client HTTP request. 3. Systems - SHOUTcast Server 1.8.2 ( Linux ) - SHOUTcast Server 1.8.2 ( Win32 ) - SHOUTcast Server 1.8.2 ( Others ) ( No test ) 4. DoS The DoS in C format is attached. 5. Vendor Response 31/08/01: Sent problem to tom at nullsoft.com 03/08/01: No response from tom at nullsoft.com Sent problem to bugtraq at securityfocus.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Craig.Latta at NetJam.ORG Sat Aug 4 01:34:59 2001 From: Craig.Latta at NetJam.ORG (Craig Latta) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 18:34:59 -0700 Subject: [icecast] streaming vorbis files from an openbsd box In-Reply-To: <20010803134441.1600918D02C@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: <3B6B5143.16815294@NetJam.ORG> > > I've installed icecast2 and ices2 on an OpenBSD box. It all > > seems sane from the server side, but when I try to listen to my > > stream from winamp 2.76 with Peter Pawlowski's vorbis plugin > > (1.12), from a win98se box, nothing plays. > > try the newest plugin and/or jorbis. It turned out the audio files I had grabbed from the Net for testing were encoded with an overly-aged encoder. I encoded something else, with Pawlowski's latest winamp vorbis encoder plug-in, and everything worked. So all I had to do was take im_oss out of the Makefile (at the suggestion of Michael Smith, after oss_ioctl wasn't found during linking), and use -pthread instead of -lpthread (a peculiarity of OpenBSD, I think). thanks, -C -- Craig Latta composer and computer scientist craig.latta at netjam.org www.netjam.org crl at watson.ibm.com Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From suzerain at suzerain.com Sat Aug 4 04:21:28 2001 From: suzerain at suzerain.com (s u z e r a i n) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:21:28 -0400 Subject: [icecast] ices compile issue: sys/poll.h? In-Reply-To: <3B6B5143.16815294@NetJam.ORG> Message-ID: Hi there. I'm attempting to compile ices on a Mac OS X box, but it's complaining it can't find the sys/poll.h file. i can't find this file anywhere on my system. is this something that should be on my box or that should come with the distribution? any insights? cheers, -- Marc Antony Vose http://www.suzerain.com/ If you don't have something nice to say, say it anyway. -- Unknown --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From the_Arioch at nm.ru Sat Aug 4 08:02:38 2001 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 12:02:38 +0400 Subject: [icecast] Broadcasting w/o server Message-ID: <20010804080238.32047.qmail@grif0.newmail.ru> Ok, there are cool complex products such as SHOUTcast and icecast, but is there some simplier solution? What i need is simple plugin, allowing other guys in home LAN listen the same thing that i do? I do not want to download/install/setup one more program such as server. I do not need complex things. Just one and very simple - share my current winamp sound. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rickf at transpect.net Sat Aug 4 11:10:57 2001 From: rickf at transpect.net (Rick Franchuk) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:10:57 -0300 (ADT) Subject: [icecast] Whoops... Message-ID: Sorry about that. Getting a new MTA installed here and it's engaging in a little silliness. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Aug 5 02:05:34 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:05:34 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Broadcasting w/o server In-Reply-To: <20010804080238.32047.qmail@grif0.newmail.ru> Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Arioch /BDV/ wrote: > Ok, there are cool complex products such as SHOUTcast and > icecast, but is there some simplier solution? > What i need is simple plugin, allowing other guys in home > LAN listen the same thing that i do? I do not want to > download/install/setup one more program such as server. I > do not need complex things. Just one and very simple - > share my current winamp sound. Well, you could run some audio cables, or get a low-power FM transmitter. But if you want to share it via the network then I'm pretty sure you'll need a server. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sun Aug 5 02:14:39 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:14:39 +1000 Subject: [icecast] My vorbis/icecast2 stream now working properly again Message-ID: Hi all: I noticed earlier this week that, at least for me, my vorbis test stream at http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca:9000/test.ogg was not working properly. It would send some data and then stop. Most times it would make it through the HTTP headers and the icecast headers, but then it would just sit there, sucking its thumb. I did try restarting it, but to no avail. anyway, the machine got upgraded yesterday with extra RAM and is now running kernel 2.4.7. I restarted everything and it now seems to be working fine. So if you've been having trouble with it, try again, it should be right now. I restarted it about 24 hours ago, but this is the first chance I've had to write about it. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Sun Aug 5 02:28:45 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:28:45 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Broadcasting w/o server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010804192845.A12901@lns.com> On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 12:05:34PM +1000, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Arioch /BDV/ wrote: > > > Ok, there are cool complex products such as SHOUTcast and > > icecast, but is there some simplier solution? > > What i need is simple plugin, allowing other guys in home > > LAN listen the same thing that i do? I do not want to > > download/install/setup one more program such as server. I > > do not need complex things. Just one and very simple - > > share my current winamp sound. > > Well, you could run some audio cables, or get a low-power FM transmitter. > But if you want to share it via the network then I'm pretty sure you'll > need a server. How about multicasting the audio? This should work without a server. I don't think Winamp will support this unless there is some Windows gatway from unicast to multicast packets. I seem to remember someone was doing that for UNIX. Else you can check out "rat" for Windows... http://www.free.net/ftp/packages/multicast/rat/ Tim -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Sun Aug 5 06:59:30 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:59:30 -0600 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot Message-ID: <003101c11d7c$2cea7e40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> > hey ya all, > > I need some direction , as i have seem to hit stupid row. > I have IceCast running, and streaming, all works excellent. > > What i would like to do is : add the link to my website and when it is > clicked on, it opens the stream in winamp > Does anyone have information on how i go about doing this ? > > Thank you in advance. > Rick - colly at undernetlinux.com > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From roy at lamrim.com Mon Aug 6 03:27:43 2001 From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:27:43 -0700 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot In-Reply-To: <003101c11d7c$2cea7e40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010805202743.0136e560@lamrim.com>
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Also, you can use m3u files which just have one line: http://64.81.69.19:8000 I tend to prefer those. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From russ at essentialmix.ca Sun Aug 5 15:53:30 2001 From: russ at essentialmix.ca (Russ) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough Message-ID: Hey group, I am getting this error from the icecast log whenever I try to connect to my server to listen: Kicking client 4 [xxx.blah.com] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 1 seconds, 8192 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected I am not sure what is causing this, ices or icecast? I have tried re-compiling Icecast and Ices to not avail. I am running RedHat 7.1, Icecast 1.3.10, Ices 0.2.2. I am running off a 100 MB NIC that is connected to dual OC3s, so bandwidth is definitely not a problem. This happens whether my client is connecting to the local LAN of the server, or somewhere else on the internet. Any ideas? -- -Russ Essentialmix.ca --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 6 02:00:27 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:00:27 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010805200026.G1141@i.cantcode.com> Try the CVS version of icecast, which is really the 1.3.11 release. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From roy at lamrim.com Mon Aug 6 03:54:12 2001 From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:54:12 -0700 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot In-Reply-To: <20010805193920.F1141@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010805205412.007e0450@lamrim.com> Seems I'm an idiot as well. ;-) At 07:39 PM 8/5/01 -0600, you wrote: >> [playlist] >> NumberOfEntries=6 >> File1=http://64.81.69.19:8000 >> Title1=Lam Rim Radio NOW LOADING >> Length1=-1 >> Version=2 > >That seems wrong. All you need is: > >[playlist] >NumberOfEntries=1 >File1=http://64.81.69.19:8000 > >You can add a title, but I thought the NumberOfEntries referred to the >number of FileX entries, not the total number of parameters (in either >case your example is wrong). > >Also, you can use m3u files which just have one line: > >http://64.81.69.19:8000 > >I tend to prefer those. > >jack. > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From russ at essentialmix.ca Sun Aug 5 16:26:26 2001 From: russ at essentialmix.ca (Russ) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: <20010805200026.G1141@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: Jack, tried the CVS version still getting: -> [05/Aug/2001:12:25:01] Kicking client 4 [cr7890-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 0 seconds, 26010 bytes transfered. 0 clients connected Any idea what it means? Is it a mis-configuration? Sometime to do w/ LAME? I have no clue where to start -Russ On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Jack Moffitt wrote: > Try the CVS version of icecast, which is really the 1.3.11 release. > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- -Russ Essentialmix.ca --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 6 02:38:29 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:38:29 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010805203829.I1141@i.cantcode.com> > -> [05/Aug/2001:12:25:01] Kicking client 4 > [cr7890-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com] [Too many errors (client not receiving > data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 0 seconds, 26010 bytes > transfered. 0 clients connected > > Any idea what it means? Is it a mis-configuration? Sometime to do w/ > LAME? I have no clue where to start Almost always this means that data is being sent to fast. Ie, you're player must play at a certain rate, probably 44.1k samples per second. If icecast sends you data too fast, eventually you're buffer will fill up, causing the socket to block, causing errors. They look the same as if the bandwidth between you and the server isn't good enough to maintain the connection, and in a sense, that's the case. But instead of the network introducing blockage, your client is introducing it. You're only getting 26k of data, so I have to assume that this is not the problem. 26k of data isn't even enough to fill up your streaming buffer, unless you've gone off and set it at 0 bytes or something. What client are you using? It might be that it's networking code is totally hosed. jack. ps. is essentialmix.ca connected with the essential mix cd's in stores? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From russ at essentialmix.ca Sun Aug 5 16:40:48 2001 From: russ at essentialmix.ca (Russ) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: <20010805203829.I1141@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: Hmmm, I am using Winamp for my client, will upgrade it, but it works for other shoutcast/icecast streams. There has to be something buggered up in my config somewhere. It sounds as if Ices is sending data too quickly to icecast(?), will blow it away and re-complie it and see what happens. Thanks for the help so far. yeah, essentialmix.ca is directly related to the Essential mix broadcasts off Radio1, I am running an FTP server with all the 2001, most of 2000 and some 1999 essential mixes. I am tired of trying to find them online, so I figured I would setup a site :) The idea with the icecast was to continuously stream all the mixes that are on the ftp site. -Russ On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Almost always this means that data is being sent to fast. Ie, you're > player must play at a certain rate, probably 44.1k samples per second. > If icecast sends you data too fast, eventually you're buffer will fill > up, causing the socket to block, causing errors. They look the same as > if the bandwidth between you and the server isn't good enough to > maintain the connection, and in a sense, that's the case. But instead > of the network introducing blockage, your client is introducing it. > > You're only getting 26k of data, so I have to assume that this is not > the problem. 26k of data isn't even enough to fill up your streaming > buffer, unless you've gone off and set it at 0 bytes or something. > > What client are you using? It might be that it's networking code is > totally hosed. > > jack. > > ps. is essentialmix.ca connected with the essential mix cd's in stores? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- -Russ Essentialmix.ca --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 6 02:50:26 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:50:26 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010805205026.J1141@i.cantcode.com> > Hmmm, I am using Winamp for my client, will upgrade it, but it works for > other shoutcast/icecast streams. There has to be something buggered up in > my config somewhere. It sounds as if Ices is sending data too quickly to > icecast(?), will blow it away and re-complie it and see what happens. > Thanks for the help so far. This shouldn't be a problem with winamp I hope. Worth a try. Check you buffer settings in winamp as well and see if those give you any ideas. I'm wondering if lame could be the culprit. Can you try broadcasting without reencoding? > yeah, essentialmix.ca is directly related to the Essential mix broadcasts > off Radio1, I am running an FTP server with all the 2001, most of > 2000 and some 1999 essential mixes. I am tired of trying to find them > online, so I figured I would setup a site :) Super cool ! :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Mon Aug 6 05:57:20 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:57:20 -0600 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot In-Reply-To: <003101c11d7c$2cea7e40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <002c01c11e3c$a7faff40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Heh , Thank you to everyone that answered my requests, it is appreciated, I am going to shout one more question out in the air, is it LiveICE i use to let ICECAST stream mp3's from a file ? Thank you once again all , it is very much appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Wilson To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot > > > > hey ya all, > > > > I need some direction , as i have seem to hit stupid row. > > I have IceCast running, and streaming, all works excellent. > > > > What i would like to do is : add the link to my website and when it is > > clicked on, it opens the stream in winamp > > Does anyone have information on how i go about doing this ? > > > > Thank you in advance. > > Rick - colly at undernetlinux.com > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 6 03:50:03 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:50:03 -0600 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot In-Reply-To: <002c01c11e3c$a7faff40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <20010805215003.D2274@i.cantcode.com> > I am going to shout one more question out in the air, is it LiveICE i use to > let ICECAST stream mp3's from a file ? Nothing let's icecast stream mp3s from a file. Icecast always(1) gets it's input from a socket, generally via some 'source' program like ices, liveice, shout, etc. Now, as for which source you want, that depends on how you are streaming. If you are streaming from playlists or files, ices i swhat you want. Grab 0.2.2 and lame(2), and you're all set. Liveice is primarily for live encoding applications, for instance, broadcasting a concert in realtime. It's not the easiest tool to use either, so I suggest sticking with ices unless you absolutely need live encoding. Hope this helps, jack. (1) unless of course you are doing on-demand streaming with icecast's built in /file/ stuff. this is probably not what you meant though :) (2) you need lame only if you're reencoding files on the fly. otherwise just ices will do. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Mon Aug 6 06:30:59 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:30:59 -0700 Subject: [icecast] I am a Idiot In-Reply-To: <20010805215003.D2274@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <20010805233059.A82373@lns.com> On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 09:50:03PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > I am going to shout one more question out in the air, is it LiveICE i use to > > let ICECAST stream mp3's from a file ? > > Nothing let's icecast stream mp3s from a file. Icecast always(1) gets > it's input from a socket, generally via some 'source' program like ices, > liveice, shout, etc. > > Now, as for which source you want, that depends on how you are > streaming. If you are streaming from playlists or files, ices i swhat > you want. Grab 0.2.2 and lame(2), and you're all set. > > Liveice is primarily for live encoding applications, for instance, > broadcasting a concert in realtime. It's not the easiest tool to use > either, so I suggest sticking with ices unless you absolutely need live > encoding. There is also mixice which is a perl script that will do live encoding. :-) Currently in use at a number of commercial and non-comm stations. http://www.lns.com/papers/mixice/ Tim -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical_Essays" --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Mon Aug 6 11:51:22 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:51:22 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Well here i go again :) In-Reply-To: <20010805233059.A82373@lns.com> Message-ID: <000a01c11e6e$1d86e4a0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Alright , once again, thank you for all the help , it has been interesting. I got ices to work successfully , except for using lame.h , i for the life of me , can not get it to include it , no matter what version ( i have tried from 3.66 to 3.70 ) and can not get it to include it. ( heh i started using 2.* series and have not figured out it is not included :P. The other issue i find i hear about liblame , hense i can not find it anywhere. when ./configure --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame , the lame.h is there as with most of the versions above 3.66 hense it will not include it if it life depends on it ( or mine ) I tried streaming with out lame and it is choppy as all hell, so i am guessing that lame is more then required to get a nice clear stream. Any help from the excellent guru's that have already been so kind , would be much appreciated. Pointers to the correct lame and ices would be pretty sweet too :P Thanks once again. Peace - Rick Wilson ~ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Mon Aug 6 16:50:13 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:50:13 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Well here i go again :) In-Reply-To: <000a01c11e6e$1d86e4a0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <20010806125013.C475@xanadu.kublai.com> On Monday, 06 August 2001 at 05:51, Rick Wilson wrote: > Alright , once again, thank you for all the help , it has been interesting. > I got ices to work successfully , except for using lame.h , i for the life > of me , can not get it > to include it , no matter what version ( i have tried from 3.66 to 3.70 ) > and can not get it to include it. ( heh i started using 2.* series and have > not figured out it is not included :P. I believe the documentation mentions that you need at least lame 3.88. :) > The other issue i find i hear about liblame , hense i can not find it > anywhere. > > when ./configure --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame , the lame.h is > there as with most of the versions above 3.66 > hense it will not include it if it life depends on it ( or mine ) it's libmp3lame. See if building lame 3.88+ helps. > I tried streaming with out lame and it is choppy as all hell, so i am > guessing that lame is more then required to get a > nice clear stream. icecast currently has some trouble with high bitrate streams. You can work around it by lowering sleep_ratio. > Any help from the excellent guru's that have already been so kind , would be > much appreciated. > > Pointers to the correct lame and ices would be pretty sweet too :P ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/lame3.89beta.tar.gz http://www.icecast.org/releases/ices-0.2.2.tar.gz -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Mon Aug 6 16:56:08 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:56:08 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010806125608.D475@xanadu.kublai.com> On Sunday, 05 August 2001 at 12:40, Russ wrote: > > Hmmm, I am using Winamp for my client, will upgrade it, but it works for > other shoutcast/icecast streams. There has to be something buggered up in > my config somewhere. It sounds as if Ices is sending data too quickly to > icecast(?), will blow it away and re-complie it and see what happens. > Thanks for the help so far. It's fairly straightforward to figure out whether ices is having a timing problem. Put an MP3 of a certain length into a playlist, fire up ices and see if it takes that amount of time for ices to play the track. If ices plays a 3-minute track in 90 seconds, ices is the culprit. It's also possible you aren't actually reencoding. You may be advertising your stream as 128kbit but sending at 256 or something. Which version of ices are you using? Also set Verbose to 1 in ices.conf and watch the logs... -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Mon Aug 6 20:37:13 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:37:13 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <20010801163952.G506@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B6EFFF9.606DC310@gactr.uga.edu> despite all the discussion last week on how to "appropriate" accomplish what i was wanting to do in terms of the otto + ices combination, i just hacked the ices code and made it return instead of looping... i'm listening to tunes now. that's all i really care about. in my icecast.conf i have: client_timeout -1 but when icecast loses it's ices souce, the clients get dropped. how do i make icecast keep its clients even when it's lost its source? -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tgoodman at sonusnet.com Mon Aug 6 20:40:47 2001 From: tgoodman at sonusnet.com (Todd Goodman) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:40:47 -0400 Subject: [icecast] how to modify ices source? In-Reply-To: <3B6EFFF9.606DC310@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20010806164047.L22791@skarn.sonusnet.com> * Robin P. Blanchard [010806 16:39]: > client_timeout -1 > > but when icecast loses it's ices souce, the clients get dropped. > how do i make icecast keep its clients even when it's lost its source? I always set client_timeout to the largest value (so that ices reconnects before it times out). Todd --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From russ at essentialmix.ca Mon Aug 6 14:31:42 2001 From: russ at essentialmix.ca (Russ) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Yet another LAME re-encoding question Message-ID: Yes, I have checked the archives :) I am running Ices 0.2.2 with icecast 1.3.10 and LAME 3.87. I have compiled Ices without any problems, it found lame.h and the libraries, my problem is that when I run ices, it doesn't re-encode the files. This is the command line I am using to play around with: ./ices -b 64 -H 64 -F playlist -h localhost -p 8000 -P letmein -r -v The log shows nothing about re-encoding, my source files range from 128-192 kbps. Am I missing something? -- -Russ Essentialmix.ca --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Tue Aug 7 02:58:50 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:58:50 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Yet another LAME re-encoding question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010806225850.A775@xanadu.kublai.com> On Monday, 06 August 2001 at 10:31, Russ wrote: > Yes, I have checked the archives :) > > I am running Ices 0.2.2 with icecast 1.3.10 and LAME 3.87. I have Hmm, I didn't think it worked with 3.87. But if ices -V lists LAME as a feature, then I guess it does. I'd recommend upgrading anyway, there were some bugs in the library which ices exercised. > compiled Ices without any problems, it found lame.h and the libraries, my > problem is that when I run ices, it doesn't re-encode the files. This is > the command line I am using to play around with: > > ./ices -b 64 -H 64 -F playlist -h localhost -p 8000 -P letmein -r -v > > The log shows nothing about re-encoding, my source files range from > 128-192 kbps. Am I missing something? -r means make a random playlist. You want -R, which means reencode. Also your sample rate (-H 64) will probably upset lame. Why don't you just omit that parameter? -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From russ at essentialmix.ca Mon Aug 6 15:09:10 2001 From: russ at essentialmix.ca (Russ) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [icecast] Yet another LAME re-encoding question In-Reply-To: <20010806225850.A775@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: I thought the -H was the switch to re-encode... should have paid more attention to the ices --help :) Everything is running smoooooooth now :) Thanks for your help -Russ On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Brendan Cully wrote: > > -r means make a random playlist. > > You want -R, which means reencode. > > Also your sample rate (-H 64) will probably upset lame. Why don't you > just omit that parameter? > > -Brendan > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > -- -Russ Essentialmix.ca --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Tue Aug 7 06:54:51 2001 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Maroy Akos) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:54:51 +0300 Subject: [icecast] Well here i go again :) In-Reply-To: <000a01c11e6e$1d86e4a0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <3B6F90BB.2F521B80@tyrell.hu> Rick Wilson wrote: > > Alright , once again, thank you for all the help , it has been interesting. > I got ices to work successfully , except for using lame.h , i for the life > of me , can not get it > to include it , no matter what version ( i have tried from 3.66 to 3.70 ) > and can not get it to include it. ( heh i started using 2.* series and have > not figured out it is not included :P. use should use: #include --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Tue Aug 7 13:13:35 2001 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 07 Aug 2001 09:13:35 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: <20010806125608.D475@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: Actually, I have seen this problem quite a bit as you all will remember. It isn't ices (I don't think) rather it seems to be something wrong in icecast. More specifically with the yp server section of code. The more yp directories you have listed the higher the chance of getting the not streaming fast enough error. I have trimmed all my directory servers back to just yp.icecast.org and for the most part the problem has vanished. Now there is one odd caveat, last week at some point our internal network was disconnected from the outside world. I could still stream internally. I had removed all of the yp directory server entries so icecast shouldn't have been trying to leave the internal network. I could not stay connected for more than 50-80 seconds. The error was always the same not streaming fast enough error but obviously it has nothing to do with the client at all. So as far as that goes it is a very misleading error message and probably one of the reasons we haven't been able to hunt it down. So there is some food for thought. Jack Brendan got any ideas? I've been taking the long term approach to hunting this one down. I have set the debug level up to four but the problem code seems to sneak between the debug code bits. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 8 03:50:57 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:50:57 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast 1.3.11 released Message-ID: <20010807235057.E541@xanadu.kublai.com> Hi, Icecast 1.3.11 has been released. As usual you can find it at http://www.icecast.org/releases/icecast-1.3.11.tar.gz This release contains some minor security updates, and also includes Mark Lehrer's fix for stuttering problems when the network is congested. If you've been having problems with recent releases of icecast 1.3, give this one a try. This release also handles high-bitrate streams better. sleep_ratio is no longer needed. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Wed Aug 8 22:15:02 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 15:15:02 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Logging Message-ID: I have some questions about Icecast logging... How close is Icecast logging to the Apache logging format? Can you customize the output options like Apache? We've used several tools to process our Icecast logs in the past, including Webalizer and Urchin. Urchin seems to report some slightly erroneous data. What have others used for processing Icecast's access.log file? Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 8 20:30:24 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:30:24 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Logging In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010808143024.X4305@i.cantcode.com> > How close is Icecast logging to the Apache logging format? Can you customize > the output options like Apache? It's combined log format + one variable on the end. It's not customizable. All parsers I'ved worked with ignore extra variables, so that last variable is skipped by www log parsers, but can be used by a custom icecast parser. Also certain parsers probably have the ability to do custom fields. But i've never used one. > We've used several tools to process our Icecast logs in the past, including > Webalizer and Urchin. Urchin seems to report some slightly erroneous data. > > What have others used for processing Icecast's access.log file? Webalizers always been my favorite. it's likely that I will eventually write something custom for icecast, especially in teh interest of making BMI and ASCAP reports easier to do. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From muysexy at flashmail.com Sat Aug 11 04:33:08 2001 From: muysexy at flashmail.com (aaaiiiii) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 06:33:08 +0200 Subject: [icecast] llamame. Message-ID: <20010809033319.A6E2418D01F@motherfish.xiph.org> Hola Aaaiiiii, somos dos chicas muy muy calientes. Tenemos muchas ganas de hablar contigo. ?Ll?manos al 90 62 99 416 y d?jate sorprender! ? Te atreves ? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sean at rimboy.com Thu Aug 9 05:11:14 2001 From: sean at rimboy.com (Sean /The RIMBoy/) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] llamame. In-Reply-To: <20010809033319.A6E2418D01F@motherfish.xiph.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, aaaiiiii wrote: > Hola > Aaaiiiii, somos dos chicas muy muy calientes. > Tenemos muchas ganas de hablar contigo. > ?Ll?manos al 90 62 99 416 y d?jate sorprender! > ? Te atreves ? No, I don't dare. Sean... -- WWJD? JWRTFM. -ASO/. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ KG4NRC www.rimboy.com <-- Your source for the crap you know you need. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu Aug 9 02:14:42 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:14:42 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 (was Re: [vorbis] Who'll Be Using Ogg Vorbis Instead Of MP3? @ /.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jack Moffitt wrote: > It works, but hasn't been released. I will be making nightly snapshots > available of the repositories in the next day or so, and that should > help get more people testing it. So far it's help up quite well, and > the tools are _nice_ courtesy of Oddsock and Vakor :) Can you provide any more info on this? Are the snapshots up yet and, if so, where? can I just do an update with bitkeeper? I'm running 2-month-old code which I'm certain must be outdated now, but I've never gotten an answer on how best to update this. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Fri Aug 10 15:06:43 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] Icecast2 (was Re: [vorbis] Who'll Be Using Ogg Vorbis Instead Of MP3? @ /.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Geoff Shang wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > > It works, but hasn't been released. I will be making nightly snapshots > > available of the repositories in the next day or so, and that should > > help get more people testing it. So far it's help up quite well, and > > the tools are _nice_ courtesy of Oddsock and Vakor :) > > Can you provide any more info on this? Are the snapshots up yet and, if > so, where? can I just do an update with bitkeeper? I found a couple of snapshots in Jack's i.cantcode.com web directory (http://i.cantcode.com/~jack/) and I think the last one there was from August 7th. (I'd use bitkeeper, but I don't have a reliable connection until I get back to school in the fall.) > I'm running > 2-month-old code which I'm certain must be outdated now, but I've never > gotten an answer on how best to update this. I'm guessing bitkeeper. That should be the latest if its used. -- ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society ----------------------------------------------- http://web.unbc.ca/~bowserj/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at ikansas.com Fri Aug 10 15:32:56 2001 From: scott at ikansas.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Non-problem, just a Ogg/Vorbis question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I must be living under a rock, im on the icecast mailing list, but yet do not quite understand exactly what Ogg/Vorbis is.. What information I think I know is this.. People behind proxy's like it, and its not exactly Mp3... hehe, anyone care to help clarify? Thanks Scott W. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From salvadorsosa at yahoo.com Fri Aug 10 16:09:26 2001 From: salvadorsosa at yahoo.com (Salvador Sosa) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:09:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Non-problem, just a Ogg/Vorbis question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010810160926.57813.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Extract from: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/ "Ogg Vorbis is a fully Open, non-proprietary, patent-and-royalty-free, general-purpose compressed audio format for high quality (44.1-48.0kHz, 16+ bit, polyphonic) audio and music at fixed and variable bitrates from 16 to 128 kbps/channel. This places Vorbis in the same class as audio representations including MPEG-1 audio layer 3, MPEG-4 audio (AAC and TwinVQ), and PAC" Have a lot of fun... Salvador --- Scott escribi?: > I must be living under a rock, im on the icecast > mailing list, but yet do > not quite understand exactly what Ogg/Vorbis is.. > What information I think > I know is this.. People behind proxy's like it, and > its not exactly > Mp3... hehe, anyone care to help clarify? > > Thanks > > Scott W. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. > No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su direcci?n de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From salvadorsosa at yahoo.com Fri Aug 10 16:17:11 2001 From: salvadorsosa at yahoo.com (Salvador Sosa) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:17:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Squid for better streaming MP3? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010810161711.32319.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> A question.... How much the streaming will be better using Squid as HTTP accelerator for the streaming? The users will connect against Squid instead directly to Icecast. Squid will connect to Icecast. This must permit more users at the same time by using the cache of Squid. Anyone has installed this? I?m studing this but if someone has another idea or a reason to not do this, please say to me.... Thanks Salvador _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su direcci?n de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From roy at lamrim.com Fri Aug 10 21:12:30 2001 From: roy at lamrim.com (Roy Harvey) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:12:30 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Ices Disconnects? In-Reply-To: <20010810161711.32319.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010810141230.01248ad0@lamrim.com> All -- Things are mostly stable, but recently I've noted disconnects after a few hours with the following output: Error during send: Libshout reported send error, disconnecting: Libshout socket error. Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:8000//ices, error: Could not login on server. Server message: ERROR - Mount Point Taken or Invalid Not sure this is useful to help you debug, but if someone points me to the right file or settings, I'd be happy to providing any additional information required to identify the problem. Thanks, Roy --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Sat Aug 11 01:28:38 2001 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 10 Aug 2001 21:28:38 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Ices Disconnects? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010810141230.01248ad0@lamrim.com> Message-ID: No, you are absolutely correct. It was totally gone about a week ago but somehow in the last batch of changes Brendan made the problem snuck back in. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu Sat Aug 11 05:30:16 2001 From: ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu (Ombra Rossa) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 02:30:16 -0300 (ART) Subject: [icecast] Stupid question Message-ID: <200108110530.CAA04772@OmBrA.mine.nu> Hi, I've recently download some software for "streaming"; I've try to run ices, but when i start it the first line is: XML Parser: Document of invalid type, no ices namespace found I realy don't undestand what's means. Please give me an idea! Tnx. Ombra. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Sat Aug 11 13:18:20 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 06:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] Stupid question In-Reply-To: <200108110530.CAA04772@OmBrA.mine.nu> Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Ombra Rossa wrote: > Hi, I've recently download some software for "streaming"; > I've try to run ices, but when i start it the first line is: > XML Parser: Document of invalid type, no ices namespace found > I realy don't undestand what's means. Please give me an idea! It means that you are using a broken XML parser and you should delete the comment before the namespace is defined near the top of the config file. Comments are the tags that look like (in case you didn't know) That should fix the problem. -- ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society ----------------------------------------------- http://web.unbc.ca/~bowserj/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu Sat Aug 11 13:38:03 2001 From: ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu (Ombra Rossa) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:38:03 -0300 (ART) Subject: [icecast] Stupid question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200108111338.KAA05873@OmBrA.mine.nu> > It means that you are using a broken XML parser and you should delete the > comment before the namespace is defined near the top of the config file. > > Comments are the tags that look like (in case you didn't > know) > > That should fix the problem. > -- Tnx, now the XML parse error don't appare. But...yes, there's a but: Unknown playlist keyword: text (4 times) Unknown Server keyword: text (4 times) Unknown Execution keyword: text (4 times) Unknown Stream keyword: text (4 times) .... :(( I'v only del the connent in the second line: what can I do now? Tnx. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From cybermage at utah-inter.net Sat Aug 11 15:39:42 2001 From: cybermage at utah-inter.net (CyberMage) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:39:42 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Well here i go again :) In-Reply-To: <20010806125013.C475@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <002101c1227b$e961b120$a0807ad8@lightrealm.com> I ran into a problem with libmp3lame as well. Turns out, I just needed to add "/usr/local/lib" to my "/etc/ld.so.conf" (run /bin/ldconfig after adding it). This fixed it right up. Also, I couldn't get 3.88 to build correctly. 3.89 works great though. Hope this helps! Don Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Cully" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] Well here i go again :) > On Monday, 06 August 2001 at 05:51, Rick Wilson wrote: > > Alright , once again, thank you for all the help , it has been interesting. > > I got ices to work successfully , except for using lame.h , i for the life > > of me , can not get it > > to include it , no matter what version ( i have tried from 3.66 to 3.70 ) > > and can not get it to include it. ( heh i started using 2.* series and have > > not figured out it is not included :P. > > I believe the documentation mentions that you need at least lame > 3.88. :) > > > The other issue i find i hear about liblame , hense i can not find it > > anywhere. > > > > when ./configure --with-lame-includes=/usr/include/lame , the lame.h is > > there as with most of the versions above 3.66 > > hense it will not include it if it life depends on it ( or mine ) > > it's libmp3lame. See if building lame 3.88+ helps. > > > I tried streaming with out lame and it is choppy as all hell, so i am > > guessing that lame is more then required to get a > > nice clear stream. > > icecast currently has some trouble with high bitrate streams. You can > work around it by lowering sleep_ratio. > > > Any help from the excellent guru's that have already been so kind , would be > > much appreciated. > > > > Pointers to the correct lame and ices would be pretty sweet too :P > > ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/lame3.89beta.tar.gz > http://www.icecast.org/releases/ices-0.2.2.tar.gz > > -Brendan > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Sat Aug 11 20:53:35 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:53:35 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Metadata, again.. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010811164728.00c17050@rfnj.org> Hmm two questions.. First, a while back someone emailed me with a patch against the icecast source that seemed to allow metadata to be enabled without all the goofed up skipping and so on that happens by default. Can someone contact me with this again? I've lost the patch.. Second, to the icecast guys.. what exactly is the problem with metadata currently? Would it be terribly hard to just stream out an ID3 tag when the song changes and when a new user connects, at the beginning of their data? I don't see any reason to send it at a particular interval, just on-change from the source is enough I would think. AFAIK an ID3 tag is simply an invalid frame in the stream that is skipped by any respectable decoder, and making the frame invalid is trivially simple.. I'm having a hard time understanding why this doesn't work. It's a real kick in the nuts to have to use shoutcast and all it's BS problems to just be able to show the song titles in winamp, which is undoubtedly the most widely used player. -Asym http://rfnj.org --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Sat Aug 11 21:05:06 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:05:06 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Metadata, again.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010811164728.00c17050@rfnj.org> Message-ID: <20010811170506.F471@xanadu.kublai.com> On Saturday, 11 August 2001 at 16:53, Asymmetric wrote: > Hmm two questions.. > > Second, to the icecast guys.. what exactly is the problem with metadata > currently? Would it be terribly hard to just stream out an ID3 tag when you tell me. Works alright here, except in xmms which has a bug in its shoutcast metadata handler. I've submitted a patch at bugs.xmms.org for it. > the song changes and when a new user connects, at the beginning of their > data? probably not, but nothing would read it. > I don't see any reason to send it at a particular interval, just on-change > from the source is enough I would think. AFAIK an ID3 tag is simply an not necessarily. > invalid frame in the stream that is skipped by any respectable decoder, and > making the frame invalid is trivially simple.. I'm having a hard time > understanding why this doesn't work. because the clients skip the "invalid frame"? > It's a real kick in the nuts to have to use shoutcast and all it's BS > problems to just be able to show the song titles in winamp, which is > undoubtedly the most widely used player. The protocol you're talking about is exactly how shoutcast does it. I've had no problems using shoutcast-style metadata to feed a current winamp from a current icecast. Please give icecast 1.3.11 a try, it should handle a general skipping problem (not related to metadata) better than the last couple versions. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Sun Aug 12 08:33:35 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:33:35 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Metadata, again.. In-Reply-To: <20010811170506.F471@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010812042146.00c17928@rfnj.org> At 17:05 8/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: >you tell me. Works alright here, except in xmms which has a bug in its >shoutcast metadata handler. I've submitted a patch at bugs.xmms.org >for it. Hmm.. well with the current version of winamp and the previous two it would and does skip if I have metadata enabled.. it'll start anywhere from ten minutes to an hour into the stream and then just get terrible. If the listening client is restarted, it goes away for an indeterminate amount of time, then happens again.. > > the song changes and when a new user connects, at the beginning of their > > data? > >probably not, but nothing would read it. How do you figure? > > I don't see any reason to send it at a particular interval, just on-change > > from the source is enough I would think. AFAIK an ID3 tag is simply an > >not necessarily. When would it not be enough? What I'm suggesting here is that the icecast server interpret the metadata it gets from the source (which it obviously can do or it wouldn't know the song titles, etc) and then instead of sending them out in this same format, it sends them out as an ID3 tag. >because the clients skip the "invalid frame"? Clients skip "playback" of the invalid frame, but they do parse it for a valid ID3 header.. this is how ID3 works. The first characters of the frame are ID3 which both simultaneously identifies the frame as ID3, while invalidating it as an mp3 frame for playback (Valid frames are all bits on). >The protocol you're talking about is exactly how shoutcast does >it. I've had no problems using shoutcast-style metadata to feed a >current winamp from a current icecast. I understand that is how shoutcast does it, I'm trying to find out why icecast doesn't do it the same way. I've used 1.3.11 and it still has the same problem.. If icecast were doing it the same way as shoutcast, then I think it would work better.. and not have that glaring warning in the config file about using metadata at all.. something to the effect of "this doesn't work quite right and probably never will." I'll give it another whirl and see how it goes just for the sake of doing it.. but if anyone remembers that patch they sent me, I'd love to have it again. It was very simple and worked like a charm. -Asym http://rfnj.org --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Sun Aug 12 15:13:35 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:13:35 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Stupid question In-Reply-To: <200108111338.KAA05873@OmBrA.mine.nu> Message-ID: <20010812111335.A470@xanadu.kublai.com> On Saturday, 11 August 2001 at 10:38, Ombra Rossa wrote: > > It means that you are using a broken XML parser and you should delete the > > comment before the namespace is defined near the top of the config file. > > > > Comments are the tags that look like (in case you didn't > > know) > > > > That should fix the problem. > Tnx, now the XML parse error don't appare. But...yes, there's a but: > Unknown playlist keyword: text (4 times) > Unknown Server keyword: text (4 times) > Unknown Execution keyword: text (4 times) > Unknown Stream keyword: text (4 times) > .... :(( > I'v only del the connent in the second line: > > > what can I do now? You can delete all the other comments, or upgrade to a newer version of ices which is smarter about comments. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Sun Aug 12 17:00:27 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:00:27 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Metadata, again.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010812042146.00c17928@rfnj.org> Message-ID: <20010812130027.B470@xanadu.kublai.com> On Sunday, 12 August 2001 at 04:33, Asymmetric wrote: > At 17:05 8/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > > >you tell me. Works alright here, except in xmms which has a bug in its > >shoutcast metadata handler. I've submitted a patch at bugs.xmms.org > >for it. > > Hmm.. well with the current version of winamp and the previous two it would > and does skip if I have metadata enabled.. it'll start anywhere from ten > minutes to an hour into the stream and then just get terrible. If the > listening client is restarted, it goes away for an indeterminate amount of > time, then happens again.. I haven't had this problem, but I will experiment some more. If someone has posted a patch which fixes this, I'd of course like to see it too. > >> the song changes and when a new user connects, at the beginning of their > >> data? > > > >probably not, but nothing would read it. > > How do you figure? ID3s are supposed to be the last 128 bytes of the file. So I would expect most MP3 players just jump to the end of the file and grab the ID3, rather than parsing any interframe garbage they run across to see if it might be an ID3 tag. Streams of course have no end of file. I haven't actually tried to embed ID3 tags between frames in a stream - you are welcome to prove me wrong. > >> I don't see any reason to send it at a particular interval, just > >on-change > >> from the source is enough I would think. AFAIK an ID3 tag is simply an > > > >not necessarily. > > When would it not be enough? What I'm suggesting here is that the icecast > server interpret the metadata it gets from the source (which it obviously > can do or it wouldn't know the song titles, etc) and then instead of > sending them out in this same format, it sends them out as an ID3 tag. alright yes, I misunderstood. This scheme is as effective as the current scheme. But it's probably a moot point, see above. > >because the clients skip the "invalid frame"? > > Clients skip "playback" of the invalid frame, but they do parse it for a > valid ID3 header.. this is how ID3 works. The first characters of the > frame are ID3 which both simultaneously identifies the frame as ID3, while > invalidating it as an mp3 frame for playback (Valid frames are all bits on). try it out and let me know. Personally I think the way ID3 works is by being the last 128 bytes of the file. > I understand that is how shoutcast does it, I'm trying to find out why > icecast doesn't do it the same way. I've used 1.3.11 and it still has the > same problem.. If icecast were doing it the same way as shoutcast, then I one difference I know about is the interval, which is I believe 4096 in icecast but tends to be larger in shoutcast. Also what client are you using to send data to icecast? You may get into trouble if you send MP3 data with garbage in it. > think it would work better.. and not have that glaring warning in the > config file about using metadata at all.. something to the effect of "this > doesn't work quite right and probably never will." that comment probably has more to do with the fact that nullsoft has provided no documentation for their metadata protocol. > I'll give it another whirl and see how it goes just for the sake of doing > it.. but if anyone remembers that patch they sent me, I'd love to have it > again. It was very simple and worked like a charm. I'd like to see it too. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From all at biosys.net Sun Aug 12 17:44:38 2001 From: all at biosys.net (Asymmetric) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:44:38 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Metadata, again.. In-Reply-To: <20010812130027.B470@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010812133918.00c198c0@rfnj.org> At 13:00 8/12/2001 -0400, you wrote: >ID3s are supposed to be the last 128 bytes of the file. So I would >expect most MP3 players just jump to the end of the file and grab the >ID3, rather than parsing any interframe garbage they run across to see >if it might be an ID3 tag. Streams of course have no end of file. ID3 v1 and v1.1 (hardly worthy of it's own version number) is typically the last 128 bytes of a file. ID3 v2 is typically at the start of the file and uses a method they call "synchsafe" to keep it from being interpreted as a valid mp3 frame. >I haven't actually tried to embed ID3 tags between frames in a stream >- you are welcome to prove me wrong. Nor have I.. I'll give it a whirl sometime. >one difference I know about is the interval, which is I believe 4096 >in icecast but tends to be larger in shoutcast. 8192 in shoutcast I believe. >Also what client are you using to send data to icecast? You may get >into trouble if you send MP3 data with garbage in it. I'm sending from winamp with the FHG codec. >that comment probably has more to do with the fact that nullsoft has >provided no documentation for their metadata protocol. Yeah that's a huge pain in the ass too.. as I said, nullsoft has never impressed me. ;) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu Sun Aug 12 18:13:15 2001 From: ombra at OmBrA.mine.nu (Ombra Rossa) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:13:15 -0300 (ART) Subject: [icecast] Stupid question In-Reply-To: <20010812111335.A470@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <200108121813.PAA01440@OmBrA.mine.nu> Many tnx guys, to all! :) Ombra. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Mon Aug 13 05:56:48 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] Stupid question In-Reply-To: <20010812111335.A470@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Brendan Cully wrote: > On Saturday, 11 August 2001 at 10:38, Ombra Rossa wrote: > > > > what can I do now? > > You can delete all the other comments, or upgrade to a newer version > of ices which is smarter about comments. Hmm, so does ices use libxml, or does it do its own parsing? -- ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society ----------------------------------------------- http://web.unbc.ca/~bowserj/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Mon Aug 13 14:25:02 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:25:02 -0400 Subject: [icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player Message-ID: <200108131434.f7DEYbw09840@alternic.org> Don't know if this has been covered or even asked, but how can you allow access to the streams to those on WebTV and those using Windows Media Player. We're using Icecast and Ices. Thanks in advance! AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Mon Aug 13 15:32:58 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: <200108131434.f7DEYbw09840@alternic.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, AJones! wrote: > Don't know if this has been covered or even asked, > but how can you allow access to the streams to those > on WebTV and those using Windows Media Player. I don't think you can for WMP. Windows Media Player seems to just connect to the Icecast server and not send any request (hell, even a line feed should be able to get Icecast to send data) I think the same thing happens with versions of Quicktime. -- ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society ----------------------------------------------- http://web.unbc.ca/~bowserj/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Mon Aug 13 19:23:36 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:23:36 -0600 Subject: [icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: <200108131434.f7DEYbw09840@alternic.org> Message-ID: <000d01c1242d$7622b980$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Well there is one way , http://www.plrradio.com , uses a Windows Media WEB Front End that would work for WebTV users. Now i just need to get ahold of the guy that did it. it will work on any stream ( icecast/shoutcast). I will get ahold of him and find out what you need to do. Peace colly at undernetlinux.com ----- Original Message ----- From: AJones! To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: [icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player > Don't know if this has been covered or even asked, > but how can you allow access to the streams to those > on WebTV and those using Windows Media Player. > > We're using Icecast and Ices. > > Thanks in advance! > > AJ > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From ajones at alternic.org Tue Aug 14 00:11:58 2001 From: ajones at alternic.org (AJones!) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:11:58 -0400 Subject: [icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player In-Reply-To: <[icecast] WebTV/ Windows Media Player> Message-ID: <200108140040.f7E0eFC02066@alternic.org> 8/13/01 3:23 PM colly at undernetlinux.com Dear Colly: >Well there is one way , http://www.plrradio.com , uses a Windows Media WEB >Front End that would work for >WebTV users. Now i just need to get ahold of the guy that did it. it will >work on any stream ( icecast/shoutcast). > >I will get ahold of him and find out what you need to do. That's great of you! Thanks!! AJ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tim at nvhs.nl Tue Aug 14 06:37:00 2001 From: tim at nvhs.nl (tim) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:37:00 +0200 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com Message-ID: <20010814083659.A5066@xs4all.nl> hello, liveice just won't work for me anymore, it crashes and thus I won't waste my time on it anymore. thus, what's the url with the install instructions for iceS. If I'm not mistaken, it was somewhere hidden on i.cantcode.com? thanks, t. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Wed Aug 15 03:21:39 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:21:39 -0600 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com In-Reply-To: <20010814083659.A5066@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <001201c12539$66ac0e40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Hey ya all , I am just wondering , if anyone knows of WebSite scripts for ICECAST < that controls DJ's sorta speak , hense the fact , if 1 person is streaming to the server , and another wants to take over the broadcast , i am looking for a way for DJ's to switch , take over , or even get on the same stream and talk at the same time. Hense doing a show together, if anyone has more info on this , please let me know . ----- Original Message ----- From: tim To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:37 AM Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > > hello, > > liveice just won't work for me anymore, it crashes and thus I won't waste my > time on it anymore. > > thus, what's the url with the install instructions for iceS. If I'm not > mistaken, it was somewhere hidden on i.cantcode.com? > > thanks, > > t. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From speedwolf at door.net Wed Aug 15 05:23:44 2001 From: speedwolf at door.net (Bryan Payne) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:23:44 -0700 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com In-Reply-To: <001201c12539$66ac0e40$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <000501c1254a$749c6a20$999b4e3f@spacial> www.spacialaudio.com - take a look at SAM.. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > > Hey ya all , > > I am just wondering , if anyone knows of WebSite scripts for ICECAST < that > controls DJ's sorta speak , > hense the fact , if 1 person is streaming to the server , and another wants > to take over the broadcast , i am looking for a way for DJ's to switch , > take over , or even get on the same stream and talk at the same time. > > Hense doing a show together, if anyone has more info on this , please let me > know . > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tim > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:37 AM > Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > > > > > > hello, > > > > liveice just won't work for me anymore, it crashes and thus I won't waste > my > > time on it anymore. > > > > thus, what's the url with the install instructions for iceS. If I'm not > > mistaken, it was somewhere hidden on i.cantcode.com? > > > > thanks, > > > > t. > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pozar at lns.com Wed Aug 15 05:06:20 2001 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:06:20 -0700 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com In-Reply-To: <20010814083659.A5066@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010814220620.C46271@lns.com> You may want to try my MIXICE perl script at... http://www.lns.com/papers/mixice/ I have it running on 5 commercial and non-commercial stations right now. Tim On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 08:37:00AM +0200, tim wrote: > > hello, > > liveice just won't work for me anymore, it crashes and thus I won't waste my > time on it anymore. > > thus, what's the url with the install instructions for iceS. If I'm not > mistaken, it was somewhere hidden on i.cantcode.com? > > thanks, > > t. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From colly at undernetlinux.com Wed Aug 15 06:12:43 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:12:43 -0600 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com In-Reply-To: <000501c1254a$749c6a20$999b4e3f@spacial> Message-ID: <001501c12551$4c6bdac0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> I apprecate the input , i am using SAM as we speak , the problem i am having is getting 2 DJ's on the Stream at the same time "hense they can speak together over the air waves " heh this is the effect i am trying to obtain , as well as switching DJ's betweens songs with out loosing the feed. Thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Payne To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > www.spacialaudio.com - take a look at SAM.. > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Wilson" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > > > > > > Hey ya all , > > > > I am just wondering , if anyone knows of WebSite scripts for ICECAST < > that > > controls DJ's sorta speak , > > hense the fact , if 1 person is streaming to the server , and another > wants > > to take over the broadcast , i am looking for a way for DJ's to switch , > > take over , or even get on the same stream and talk at the same time. > > > > Hense doing a show together, if anyone has more info on this , please let > me > > know . > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: tim > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:37 AM > > Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > liveice just won't work for me anymore, it crashes and thus I won't > waste > > my > > > time on it anymore. > > > > > > thus, what's the url with the install instructions for iceS. If I'm not > > > mistaken, it was somewhere hidden on i.cantcode.com? > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > t. > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is > needed. > > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jaromil at dyne.org Wed Aug 15 08:09:20 2001 From: jaromil at dyne.org (jaromil) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:09:20 +0200 Subject: [icecast] install instructions for iceS on i.cantcode.com In-Reply-To: <001501c12551$4c6bdac0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Message-ID: <20010815100920.A270@dyne.org> On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 12:12:43AM -0600, Rick Wilson wrote: > I apprecate the input , i am using SAM as we speak , the problem i am having > is getting > 2 DJ's on the Stream at the same time "hense they can speak together over > the air waves " heh > this is the effect i am trying to obtain , as well as switching DJ's > betweens songs with out loosing the feed. just in case you prefer to use GNU/Linux and Free Software, you can do this with MuSE too, http://muse.dyne.org: since the 0.6.1 release it's mixing mp3 files as well mp3 network streams without problems. -- jrml ..//korova.dyne.org 6EEE 4FB2 2555 7ACD 8496 AB99 E2A2 93B4 6C62 4800 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From cybermage at utah-inter.net Wed Aug 15 18:54:56 2001 From: cybermage at utah-inter.net (Donald Preston) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:54:56 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Looking for Old Ices.0.8 beta.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone have this release available? I need to test something. Thanks, Don Preston --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From music at performantsystems.com Wed Aug 15 21:24:48 2001 From: music at performantsystems.com (Big Al) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:24:48 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Where can I get Icecast 2.0? Message-ID: <3B7AE8A0.1799F733@performantsystems.com> I have Icecast 1.3.11 working just fine. Now I want to try to migrate to the Ogg Vorbis thing, for purposes of static file streaming. With 1.3.11 as a default install on RedHat 7.1, would I install v2.0 as a new product or overlay / delete the v1.3.11 install? Thanks --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Wed Aug 15 21:57:41 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] Where can I get Icecast 2.0? In-Reply-To: <3B7AE8A0.1799F733@performantsystems.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Big Al wrote: > I have Icecast 1.3.11 working just fine. Now I want to try to migrate > to the Ogg Vorbis thing, for purposes of static file streaming. > > With 1.3.11 as a default install on RedHat 7.1, would I install v2.0 > as a new product or overlay / delete the v1.3.11 install? Well, you could compile from source and install icecast2 somewhere else. To get a bitkeeper snapshot of Icecast 2.0, you can go to http://i.cantcode.com/~jack/ and download it from there. It also contains instructions on using bitkeeper to get updates to the system. ices 2.0 is used to stream to the Icecast 2.0 server. It probably wouldn't hurt to get the new Vorbis RC2 packages from vorbis.com as well. I'm sure there are other sources out there, and I'm not sure how to set up static streaming for Icecast 2.0 (does it support Static Streaming?) - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7evBXKYefN4RFrdoRAjA+AKDntS+ls5JDk6p8ThA5KicQAzvF/gCgnGYp 3l/tQq6B0caFBdyd8sh4j9o= =cEdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From cybermage at utah-inter.net Thu Aug 16 13:07:23 2001 From: cybermage at utah-inter.net (CyberMage) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 06:07:23 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Looking for Old Ices.0.8 beta.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c12654$644f1fe0$a0807ad8@lightrealm.com> Okay, so what I was reeeally looking to was ices-0.0.1.beta5. Sorry for the confusion. I have found it. Thanks Jack! -Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Preston" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: [icecast] Looking for Old Ices.0.8 beta.. > Anyone have this release available? I need to test something. > > Thanks, > > Don Preston > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dlawlor at roadrunner.nf.net Thu Aug 16 21:26:52 2001 From: dlawlor at roadrunner.nf.net (Doug Lawlor) Date: Thu Aug 16 21:26:52 2001 Subject: [icecast] icecast and configuration files? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010817025011.00a24b90@pop-server.roadrunner.nf.net> Hello list, Where are the configuration files, such as icecast.conf, mounts.aut, and groups.aut, supposed to be placed? I put them in '/etc/icecast' but icecast doesn't seem to find them. Any help on this would be appreciated. Doug --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at resonance.org Fri Aug 17 16:51:21 2001 From: thomas at resonance.org (Thomas Spellman) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 09:51:21 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Where can I get Icecast 2.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm using ices 2.0 and icecast 2.0 for live streaming, but they do statice streaming too. -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast at xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast at xiph.org]On Behalf Of Joe Bowser Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:58 PM To: Icecast Mail List Subject: Re: [icecast] Where can I get Icecast 2.0? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Big Al wrote: > I have Icecast 1.3.11 working just fine. Now I want to try to migrate > to the Ogg Vorbis thing, for purposes of static file streaming. > > With 1.3.11 as a default install on RedHat 7.1, would I install v2.0 > as a new product or overlay / delete the v1.3.11 install? Well, you could compile from source and install icecast2 somewhere else. To get a bitkeeper snapshot of Icecast 2.0, you can go to http://i.cantcode.com/~jack/ and download it from there. It also contains instructions on using bitkeeper to get updates to the system. ices 2.0 is used to stream to the Icecast 2.0 server. It probably wouldn't hurt to get the new Vorbis RC2 packages from vorbis.com as well. I'm sure there are other sources out there, and I'm not sure how to set up static streaming for Icecast 2.0 (does it support Static Streaming?) - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7evBXKYefN4RFrdoRAjA+AKDntS+ls5JDk6p8ThA5KicQAzvF/gCgnGYp 3l/tQq6B0caFBdyd8sh4j9o= =cEdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Buelent.Caliskan at 7d.net Fri Aug 17 20:24:27 2001 From: Buelent.Caliskan at 7d.net (Buelent Caliskan) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 22:24:27 +0200 Subject: [icecast] icecast - it is what i search Message-ID: <20010817222427.K18453@farout.7d.net> Hi! I want to realize a realtime DJ Battle where some DJs enter in a virtual cypher and start a HipHop Battle. For example, there are 5 DJs an 5 listener in the Jury. Only one DJ my play at present and the others can only listen. After 2 minutes and a little break another DJ is on the turn and so on. Is icecast what i want? Can i realize it with icecast? thanks, buelent -- buelent caliskan | 7d ag - hamburg | fon: +49-40-43207-821 systemadministration | oberstrasse 14 | fax: +49-40-43207-799 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Fri Aug 17 20:58:41 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] icecast - it is what i search In-Reply-To: <20010817222427.K18453@farout.7d.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Buelent Caliskan wrote: > Hi! > > I want to realize a realtime DJ Battle where some DJs enter > in a virtual cypher and start a HipHop Battle. > I'm not sure what you mean by virtual cypher > > For example, there are 5 DJs an 5 listener in the Jury. > Only one DJ my play at present and the others can only listen. > After 2 minutes and a little break another DJ is on the turn > and so on. > > Is icecast what i want? Can i realize it with icecast? I think Icecast can be what you want if the DJs each had their own clients. However, I think that you would have to write a small script that changes the password after each DJ's 2 minute set and sends the new one to the next DJ so that no two DJs could connect at the same time to different mount points. I don't think you could change the password on the fly (maybe you can in the Operator Shell, but I never had to.) - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7fYWFKYefN4RFrdoRAlooAKCk9Odg6A6r5Y7RIScyeVj4jVFIzwCfcqRd kwFQtkzUzP43m70O3IeeTRw= =+FEA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sean at rimboy.com Mon Aug 20 03:57:46 2001 From: sean at rimboy.com (Sean /The RIMBoy/) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:57:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Non-problem, just a Ogg/Vorbis question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Scott wrote: > I must be living under a rock, im on the icecast mailing list, but yet do > not quite understand exactly what Ogg/Vorbis is.. What information I think > I know is this.. People behind proxy's like it, and its not exactly > Mp3... hehe, anyone care to help clarify? Ogg Vorbis is going to be the open source replacement for mp3. It benefits from being open and not tied to any (evil) company. However, best to read thru here: http://www.vorbis.com/faq.psp Should clear up most of your questions. Sean... -- WWJD? JWRTFM. -ASO/. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ KG4NRC www.rimboy.com <-- Your source for the crap you know you need. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rocaelh at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 05:13:18 2001 From: rocaelh at yahoo.com (Rocael Hernandez) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice Message-ID: <20010820051318.38362.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> Hi! I'm running icecast 1.3.11 and liveice under Mandrake 7.2 Right now I don't have a sound card, but I will. Also I need to reencode the MP3s that I'm sending to the icecast server. I followed the instructions but it doesn't seem to work, when I first run icecast and after liveice I got this: from icecast Accepted encoder on mountpoint /icy_0 from localhost.localdomain. 1 sources connected and from liveice playlist 1 opening connection to localhost 8000 Attempting to Contact Server connection successful: forking process but nothing happens (I have tried running the icecast server in the same box and in other box with the same results) If I just try liveice (without running first icecast), liveice seems to work but the icecast server doesn't report any source connection, I got in the screen this "###" running and if I do ps ax I see mpg123 -sq /mnt/windows/yss/portillo.mp3 (something that I don't see if I run first icecast and then liveice) What am I doing wrong? please help me! Thank you, Rocael. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Mon Aug 20 15:03:29 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice In-Reply-To: <20010820051318.38362.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Rocael Hernandez wrote: > Hi! I'm running icecast 1.3.11 and liveice under > Mandrake 7.2 > Right now I don't have a sound card, but I will. Also > I need to reencode the MP3s that I'm sending to the > icecast server. OK, you should use the latest version of ices and set it up to re-encode with libmp3lame. liveice is no longer supported by anyone (AFAIK). > I followed the instructions but it doesn't seem to > work, when I first run icecast and after liveice I got > this: > from icecast > > Accepted encoder on mountpoint /icy_0 from > localhost.localdomain. 1 sources connected > > > and from liveice > > playlist > 1 > opening connection to localhost 8000 > Attempting to Contact Server > connection successful: forking process Do you have your encoder setup? I remember having this problem way back when I first started using Icecast..(Wow, that was a while ago) > but nothing happens (I have tried running the icecast > server in the same box and in other box with the same > results) The server is probably working fine. Try first reinstalling liveice, make sure you have your encoder set up correctly (preferrably lame in this case) and make sure that you have it setup for CD mode. However, if you are not sending in Live Input (even if you were, there are better programs for Live Streaming) you should be using ices. It's also available for download from http://www.icecast.org/ - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7gSbEKYefN4RFrdoRAndaAKCRqs6Qs48Co0Q/tKaAxhX42UHw8wCfUbRl nu75EbrnrjAQ0iKPxwf7e+o= =CD+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rocaelh at yahoo.com Tue Aug 21 00:00:21 2001 From: rocaelh at yahoo.com (Rocael Hernandez) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010821000022.88785.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> I have installed lame, and its working well, How to choose CD mode in liveice? I have just seen with or without live input (soundcard). Well, I will need to stream live input, from a radio, what should I use instead of liveice? what do you recomend me? Thank you, Rocael. --- Joe Bowser wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Rocael Hernandez wrote: > > > Hi! I'm running icecast 1.3.11 and liveice under > > Mandrake 7.2 > > Right now I don't have a sound card, but I will. > Also > > I need to reencode the MP3s that I'm sending to > the > > icecast server. > > OK, you should use the latest version of ices and > set it up to re-encode > with libmp3lame. liveice is no longer supported by > anyone (AFAIK). > > > I followed the instructions but it doesn't seem to > > work, when I first run icecast and after liveice I > got > > this: > > from icecast > > > > Accepted encoder on mountpoint /icy_0 from > > localhost.localdomain. 1 sources connected > > > > > > and from liveice > > > > playlist > > 1 > > opening connection to localhost 8000 > > Attempting to Contact Server > > connection successful: forking process > > Do you have your encoder setup? I remember having > this problem way back > when I first started using Icecast..(Wow, that was a > while ago) > > > but nothing happens (I have tried running the > icecast > > server in the same box and in other box with the > same > > results) > > The server is probably working fine. Try first > reinstalling liveice, make > sure you have your encoder set up correctly > (preferrably lame in this > case) and make sure that you have it setup for CD > mode. > > However, if you are not sending in Live Input (even > if you were, there are > better programs for Live Streaming) you should be > using ices. It's also > available for download from http://www.icecast.org/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com Tue Aug 21 08:23:26 2001 From: pierre.amadio at fr.alcove.com (Pierre Amadio) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:23:26 +0200 Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice In-Reply-To: <20010821000022.88785.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010821102326.A23474@fr.alcove.com> Hi there. > Well, I will need to stream live input, from a radio, > what should I use instead of liveice? > what do you recomend me? You can use liveice: just plug a radio in your soundcard line-in jack. Then use a mixer (aumix works fine) to select the recording entry as line in. Have a nice day. -- Pierre Amadio --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Tue Aug 21 15:39:47 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice In-Reply-To: <20010821000022.88785.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Rocael Hernandez wrote: > I have installed lame, and its working well, > How to choose CD mode in liveice? I have just seen > with or without live input (soundcard). > > Well, I will need to stream live input, from a radio, > what should I use instead of liveice? > what do you recomend me? I recommend jaromil's MuSE software. (muse.dyne.org) It has support for Mp3 mixing with Live Input, and it also has some OggVorbis support as well. I've has mostly good expereinces with the software. You can use Liveice, but I recommend finding as many patches as you can. Liveice is quite tempermental, and if you were just using it to re-encode plain mp3s, then just use ices. There have been other tools on this list mentioned that I haven't tried yet. Try checking those out as well. - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Student Director Education Alternative Radio Society - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7goDGKYefN4RFrdoRAgbhAJ9Br0TJ2qzvHu/aSnQ+knEUh0zJMACgmPxJ BqG/ByZJO/K96LPZhcoM+1Y= =4m4p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at myplay.com Tue Aug 21 18:53:47 2001 From: scott at myplay.com (Scott Manley) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:53:47 -0700 Subject: [icecast] problems with liveice In-Reply-To: <20010821000022.88785.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B82AE3B.ABA6A4F6@myplay.com> Rocael Hernandez wrote: > > I have installed lame, and its working well, > How to choose CD mode in liveice? I have just seen > with or without live input (soundcard). > > Well, I will need to stream live input, from a radio, > what should I use instead of liveice? > what do you recomend me? When you're recording from teh soundcard you can mix in the CD using a standard CD player application and adjusting you mixer settings using something like xmixer - that's how I used to do it - An external CD player going into the line in while my CDROM was recordable by setting the CD record level. The only thing is some soundcards don't work properly and only let you record one source at a time... -- Scott Manley (AKA Szyzyg) Streaming Media Hacker www.myplay.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From megashows at sexjunkie.net Tue Aug 21 22:10:15 2001 From: megashows at sexjunkie.net (MEGASHOWS) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:10:15 +0100 Subject: [icecast] WORLDS BEST LIVESHOWS .. MEGA! Message-ID: <20010821200952.623FC18D076@motherfish.xiph.org> Dear Ladies & Gentlemen, Welcome to the GREATEST SEX SHOW on the ENTIRE NET ! We now offer you to ENTER the world?s No.1 voted SEX-SERVER on the WEB ! By far the largest and most incredible content of LIVE SEX is now served to users WORLDWIDE! 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From dpatrick at config.com Wed Aug 22 14:57:24 2001 From: dpatrick at config.com (D. Anthony Patrick) Date: 22 Aug 2001 10:57:24 EDT Subject: [icecast] Error when comiling ices-2.0 Message-ID: <200108221517.f7MFHCC78629@walnut.config.com> When compiling ices-2.0, I got the following error: In file included from config.h:4, from input.c:15: stream.h:16:25: shout/shout.h: No such file or directory Has anyone encountered this problem before? It appears that these headers are missing...does anyone know where they may be located? Any insight is much appreciated. dap -- -- D. Anthony Patrick [ dpatrick at config.com | http://home.config.com/~dpatrick/ ] -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 22 15:19:18 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:19:18 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Error when comiling ices-2.0 In-Reply-To: <200108221517.f7MFHCC78629@walnut.config.com> Message-ID: <20010822091918.P19355@i.cantcode.com> > Has anyone encountered this problem before? It appears that these headers are > missing...does anyone know where they may be located? Any insight is much > appreciated. Anyone who hasn't installed libshout2 will have this problem :) jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dpatrick at config.com Wed Aug 22 15:05:50 2001 From: dpatrick at config.com (D. Anthony Patrick) Date: 22 Aug 2001 11:05:50 EDT Subject: [icecast] Error when comiling ices-2.0 In-Reply-To: <20010822091918.P19355@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <200108221525.f7MFPaC79697@walnut.config.com> Thanks. I just read icecast.html in your home directory and noticed the section on libshout. Cheers. dap On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:19:18 -0600, Jack Moffitt said: > > Has anyone encountered this problem before? It appears that these headers are > > missing...does anyone know where they may be located? Any insight is much > > appreciated. > > Anyone who hasn't installed libshout2 will have this problem :) > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > -- -- D. Anthony Patrick [ dpatrick at config.com | http://home.config.com/~dpatrick/ ] -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From dpatrick at config.com Wed Aug 22 15:29:32 2001 From: dpatrick at config.com (D. Anthony Patrick) Date: 22 Aug 2001 11:29:32 EDT Subject: [icecast] Where is icecast.xml for icecast-2.0? In-Reply-To: <20010822091918.P19355@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <200108221549.f7MFnLC82711@walnut.config.com> Anyone know where might I find icecast.xml for icecast-2.0? I just compiled everything, but ther is no conf/icecast.xml in the src directory in the build tree? I go the source from Jack's home direcory at cantcode.com. dap -- D. Anthony Patrick [ dpatrick at config.com | http://home.config.com/~dpatrick/ ] -- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Wed Aug 22 19:59:55 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:59:55 -0400 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <3B840F3B.8D069F56@dsli.com> auth 57b5848b subscribe icecast svetter at dsli.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Wed Aug 22 20:08:19 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:08:19 -0400 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <3B841133.6EF9C91B@dsli.com> auth 57b5848b subscribe icecast svetter at dsli.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From scott at ikansas.com Wed Aug 22 20:45:45 2001 From: scott at ikansas.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:45:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [icecast] Re: SCOTT VETTER In-Reply-To: <3B841133.6EF9C91B@dsli.com> Message-ID: You're like subscribed dude. On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Scott Vetter wrote: > auth 57b5848b subscribe icecast svetter at dsli.com > > -- Scott Weingartner ------------------ Network Operations Internet Kansas 1.877.263.4667 www.ikansas.com ------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Wed Aug 22 21:40:43 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:40:43 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Ices Message-ID: I notice two versions on the Web site, 0.2.2 being shown as developmental. I'm building a new server that will run Icecast 1.3.11 and I'm wondering how stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? Thanks, Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From un at aporee.org Wed Aug 22 21:50:04 2001 From: un at aporee.org (udo noll) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:50:04 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010822235004.A30176@aporee.org> Hunter Hillegas: > I notice two versions on the Web site, 0.2.2 being shown as developmental. > > I'm building a new server that will run Icecast 1.3.11 and I'm wondering how > stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? yes. it runs fine. also with re-encoding (lame 3.89) best, u. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Wed Aug 22 21:53:23 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:53:23 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? Message-ID: <3B8429D2.12A996A7@dsli.com> Hello: This is the first time I've used icecast and ices. I've got SuSE Linux 6.3, and downloaded icecast 1.3.11 and ices 0.1.0. For icecast I've done some configuring on it and am running it. I've pointed it to yp.icecast.org and the admin console says it's server id = 69. ices is not running now (see next paragraph) should I see my icecast server on yp.icecast.org? If it should I don't. Is this a problem? Now for ices, I've gotten through the "./configure" and get several error messages: parse.c:45 parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' parse.c:45 parse error before 'cur' Unfortunately I cannot scroll back to see what the first error might be. And just getting to learn C/C++. Any idea on what is wrong? As for my other questions: Has anyone built a newer version of icecast for OS/2? Is there a program which will take sound input from a microphone and put it through icecast in real time? Thanks, Scott --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 22 21:53:38 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:53:38 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010822155338.E19355@i.cantcode.com> > I'm building a new server that will run Icecast 1.3.11 and I'm wondering how > stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? I wouldn't run anything but the current code. Brendan is pretty good about fixing bugs if you run into any. A few people have been using 0.2.2 for a while. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 22 21:59:39 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:59:39 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B8429D2.12A996A7@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010822175933.C809@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 22 August 2001 at 17:53, Scott Vetter wrote: > Now for ices, I've gotten through the "./configure" and get several > error messages: > parse.c:45 parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' > parse.c:45 parse error before 'cur' > > Unfortunately I cannot scroll back to see what the first error might > be. And just getting to learn C/C++. Any idea on what is wrong? Probably you need to install the libxml2-dev package. I don't have the source in front of me but most likely you are missing some header files. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mark at knm.org Wed Aug 22 22:16:41 2001 From: mark at knm.org (Mark Lehrer) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:16:41 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Ices In-Reply-To: <20010822155338.E19355@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <200108222216.f7MMGfSW032042@knm.org> >> stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? > > I wouldn't run anything but the current code. Brendan is pretty > good about fixing bugs if you run into any. A few people have been > using 0.2.2 for a while. Does ices 0.2.2 show the album name in the meta information, or just the artist & songname? Thanks, Mark --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Wed Aug 22 22:28:52 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:28:52 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <20010822175933.C809@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B843223.E9DFC018@dsli.com> Mr. Cully: Thanks for replying. Any idea where I can find such for a SuSE 6.3 system? I've looked at Yast's installable features and there is no such thing... Thanks, Scott ----- Brendan Cully wrote: > On Wednesday, 22 August 2001 at 17:53, Scott Vetter wrote: > > Now for ices, I've gotten through the "./configure" and get several > > error messages: > > parse.c:45 parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' > > parse.c:45 parse error before 'cur' > > > > Unfortunately I cannot scroll back to see what the first error might > > be. And just getting to learn C/C++. Any idea on what is wrong? > > Probably you need to install the libxml2-dev package. I don't have the > source in front of me but most likely you are missing some header > files. > > -Brendan > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Wed Aug 22 22:41:15 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:41:15 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B843223.E9DFC018@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010822164115.D3802@i.cantcode.com> > Thanks for replying. Any idea where I can find such for a SuSE 6.3 > system? I've looked at Yast's installable features and there is no such > thing... RPM based distos (i think suse is rpm based) generally call them -devel. Look for libxml-devel, full name will be something like libxml-devel-1.8.14-1.i386.rpm or something like that. Sometimes the gui tools will call it libxml SDK or libxml development tools, or something. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 22 23:03:52 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:03:52 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <20010822164115.D3802@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <20010822190350.B919@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 22 August 2001 at 16:41, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Thanks for replying. Any idea where I can find such for a SuSE 6.3 > > system? I've looked at Yast's installable features and there is no such > > thing... > > RPM based distos (i think suse is rpm based) generally call them -devel. > > Look for libxml-devel, full name will be something like > libxml-devel-1.8.14-1.i386.rpm or something like that. > > Sometimes the gui tools will call it libxml SDK or libxml development > tools, or something. one thing - I would recommend getting libxml2 instead of libxml 1. I don't use version 1 in development, and there may be some minor but surprising differences in behaviour. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Wed Aug 22 23:05:26 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:05:26 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Ices In-Reply-To: <200108222216.f7MMGfSW032042@knm.org> Message-ID: <20010822190525.C919@xanadu.kublai.com> On Wednesday, 22 August 2001 at 16:16, Mark Lehrer wrote: > > >> stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? > > > > I wouldn't run anything but the current code. Brendan is pretty > > good about fixing bugs if you run into any. A few people have been > > using 0.2.2 for a while. > > Does ices 0.2.2 show the album name in the meta information, or just > the artist & songname? Ices 0.2.2 provides a script hook that lets you put any info you want into the metadata. At some point I'd like to support a format string for ices to use on the ID3 tag, but it's not a super high priority. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Wed Aug 22 23:19:38 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:19:38 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <20010822164115.D3802@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <3B843E0A.85C7CE91@dsli.com> OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. That appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without problem. However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this directory? IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process or scroll back to find the first error? Scott Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Thanks for replying. Any idea where I can find such for a SuSE 6.3 > > system? I've looked at Yast's installable features and there is no such > > thing... > > RPM based distos (i think suse is rpm based) generally call them -devel. > > Look for libxml-devel, full name will be something like > libxml-devel-1.8.14-1.i386.rpm or something like that. > > Sometimes the gui tools will call it libxml SDK or libxml development > tools, or something. > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Thu Aug 23 01:19:20 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:19:20 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Where is icecast.xml for icecast-2.0? In-Reply-To: <200108221549.f7MFnLC82711@walnut.config.com> Message-ID: On 22 Aug 2001, D. Anthony Patrick wrote: > Anyone know where might I find icecast.xml for icecast-2.0? I just compiled > everything, but ther is no conf/icecast.xml in the src directory in the build > tree? I go the source from Jack's home direcory at cantcode.com. Yeah, I noticed this too. I initially got icecast2 from the bitkeeper repository nearly 3 months ago and it was there then. You can either try bitkeeper directly (probably more hassle than it's worth), or grab it from the ancient CVS repository on icecast.org. there is a web interface to it there. Alternately, find my icecast.xml attached. Note that this is circa 3 months ago and there might be more options now. but it does work with that August 7 source, that's what I'm running now. Geoff.
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Name: icecast.xml Type: application/octet-stream Size: 814 bytes Desc: not available URL: From colly at undernetlinux.com Thu Aug 23 01:44:31 2001 From: colly at undernetlinux.com (Rick Wilson) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:44:31 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Ices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c12b75$2772fda0$8fa373d1@undernetlinux.com> Normally i would not run a devel package , but in this case with ices, yes, they solved alot of compatability issues , etc. when using ices 0.0.1 i was getting segmentation faults, or stream errors and it would die after 2 hours, with ices 0.2.2 , i have yet to see a error , OS : i am running Slackware/2.2.19 , been running my stream now for over 30 days , problem free, Peace ----- Original Message ----- From: Hunter Hillegas To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: [icecast] Ices > I notice two versions on the Web site, 0.2.2 being shown as developmental. > > I'm building a new server that will run Icecast 1.3.11 and I'm wondering how > stable Ices 0.2.2 is? Are there enough fixes in it that it's worth using it? > > Thanks, > Hunter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Thu Aug 23 06:58:13 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:58:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B843E0A.85C7CE91@dsli.com> Message-ID: > OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. That > appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either > replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without problem. > However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a > directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this directory? > > IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process or > scroll back to find the first error? Hi, I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header file in the right place. In your case, lame.h is in the dir you mentioned (root/lame3.70) because that's where you unpacked the source ;) If 3.87 does not install the header file in the usual location (which would probably be /usr/local/include, or (slightly less likely) /usr/local/include/lame, both in case for a source install), you can copy it there manually, because that's where it should end up anyway - only the lame people have historically been better at writing code than packaging. If you don't want to do that, copying that lame.h to your ices source dir will work as well. Thomas <-*- -*-> I looked up at Anna She turned back to look at me It's best to kill the ones that matter Render blind the ones that see <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From berbiela at retelcom.es Thu Aug 23 16:51:48 2001 From: berbiela at retelcom.es (ANGEL BERBIELA) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:51:48 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <016801c12bf3$e6d2b360$6600a8c0@retelcom.es> ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Vander Stichele To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? > > OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. That > > appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either > > replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without problem. > > However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a > > directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this directory? > > > > IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process or > > scroll back to find the first error? > > Hi, > > I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame > library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header > file in the right place. > > In your case, lame.h is in the dir you mentioned (root/lame3.70) because > that's where you unpacked the source ;) > > If 3.87 does not install the header file in the usual location > (which would probably be /usr/local/include, or (slightly less likely) > /usr/local/include/lame, both in case for a source install), you can copy > it there manually, because that's where it should end up anyway - only the > lame people have historically been better at writing code than packaging. > > If you don't want to do that, copying that lame.h to your ices source dir > will work as well. > > Thomas > > <-*- -*-> > I looked up at Anna > She turned back to look at me > It's best to kill the ones that matter > Render blind the ones that see > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tim at nvhs.nl Thu Aug 23 23:38:28 2001 From: tim at nvhs.nl (tim) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 01:38:28 +0200 Subject: [icecast] updating to libshout 1.0.7 with ices 0.2.2? Message-ID: <20010824013828.A29127@xs4all.nl> hello, I've now got ices-0.2.2 running nicely, after installing the required libs. I had libshout-1.0.5, however, is the performace better with libshout-1.0.7? erver url - http://sandow.xs4all.nl:8000/pr0n t. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Thu Aug 23 23:43:45 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:43:45 -0600 Subject: [icecast] updating to libshout 1.0.7 with ices 0.2.2? In-Reply-To: <20010824013828.A29127@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010823174345.W3802@i.cantcode.com> > I had libshout-1.0.5, however, is the performace better with > libshout-1.0.7? There weren't any performance enhancements. Just some bugfixes and some shoutcast compatibility fixes. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Fri Aug 24 00:36:14 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:36:14 -0400 Subject: [icecast] A thought... Message-ID: <3B85A17D.6F237EC@dsli.com> Just had a thought... Under Linux can you have one user session run icecast and in another user session run ices? I don't see why not, but thought I would ask... Scott --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Fri Aug 24 00:48:22 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:48:22 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <016801c12bf3$e6d2b360$6600a8c0@retelcom.es> Message-ID: <3B85A456.39CA1B91@dsli.com> I tried the 3.70 rpm and received an error that rpm couldn't handle the version of whatever packaged it. So I had to do things by getting the source and compiling. The same was true with lame. Also I copied all the lame headers to the /usr/local/include directory, did the ./configure which seemed to work and then did the make, which didn't. Any other ideas? Thanks, Scott ANGEL BERBIELA wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Vander Stichele > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? > > > > OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. > That > > > appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either > > > replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without > problem. > > > However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a > > > directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this > directory? > > > > > > IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process > or > > > scroll back to find the first error? > > > > Hi, > > > > I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame > > library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header > > file in the right place. > > > > In your case, lame.h is in the dir you mentioned (root/lame3.70) because > > that's where you unpacked the source ;) > > > > If 3.87 does not install the header file in the usual location > > (which would probably be /usr/local/include, or (slightly less likely) > > /usr/local/include/lame, both in case for a source install), you can copy > > it there manually, because that's where it should end up anyway - only the > > lame people have historically been better at writing code than packaging. > > > > If you don't want to do that, copying that lame.h to your ices source dir > > will work as well. > > > > Thomas > > > > <-*- -*-> > > I looked up at Anna > > She turned back to look at me > > It's best to kill the ones that matter > > Render blind the ones that see > > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Fri Aug 24 00:56:51 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:56:51 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B85A456.39CA1B91@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010823205649.B1873@xanadu.kublai.com> On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 20:48, Scott Vetter wrote: > I tried the 3.70 rpm and received an error that rpm couldn't handle the > version of whatever packaged it. So I had to do things by getting the source > and compiling. The same was true with lame. > > Also I copied all the lame headers to the /usr/local/include directory, did > the ./configure which seemed to work and then did the make, which didn't. Which source? if configure succeeded I imagine you got 3.89 though... What was the error from make? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Fri Aug 24 00:57:09 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:57:09 -0400 Subject: [icecast] A thought... In-Reply-To: <3B85A17D.6F237EC@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010823205708.C1873@xanadu.kublai.com> On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 20:36, Scott Vetter wrote: > Just had a thought... Under Linux can you have one user session run > icecast and in another user session run ices? I don't see why not, but > thought I would ask... Sure, this is no problem. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Fri Aug 24 01:16:23 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:16:23 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <20010823205649.B1873@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B85AAE7.A5967ABD@dsli.com> The source is for ices-0.1.0. The errors occurs at the compile within the make for parse.c. The errors are: parse.c:41 parse error before 'doc' (same for 42 and 43) parse.c:44: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_root_element' parse.c:45: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' parse.c:45: parse error before 'cur' and the rest are warnings. Scott ------- Brendan Cully wrote: > On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 20:48, Scott Vetter wrote: > > I tried the 3.70 rpm and received an error that rpm couldn't handle the > > version of whatever packaged it. So I had to do things by getting the source > > and compiling. The same was true with lame. > > > > Also I copied all the lame headers to the /usr/local/include directory, did > > the ./configure which seemed to work and then did the make, which didn't. > > Which source? if configure succeeded I imagine you got 3.89 though... > What was the error from make? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Fri Aug 24 01:19:53 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:19:53 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B85AAE7.A5967ABD@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010823211951.E1873@xanadu.kublai.com> On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 21:16, Scott Vetter wrote: > The source is for ices-0.1.0. The errors occurs at the compile within the make for > parse.c. > > The errors are: > parse.c:41 parse error before 'doc' (same for 42 and 43) > parse.c:44: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_root_element' > parse.c:45: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' > parse.c:45: parse error before 'cur' > and the rest are warnings. Ah, the old error. That is not a lame problem. You need the full libxml2 package, including header files. You may wish to download and compile it yourself, as you did with lame. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Fri Aug 24 01:29:30 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:29:30 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <20010823211951.E1873@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <3B85ADF9.E7D92803@dsli.com> Mr. Cully: OK, where can I find the libxm12 package? Thanks for your help! Scott ---- Brendan Cully wrote: > On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 21:16, Scott Vetter wrote: > > The source is for ices-0.1.0. The errors occurs at the compile within the make for > > parse.c. > > > > The errors are: > > parse.c:41 parse error before 'doc' (same for 42 and 43) > > parse.c:44: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_root_element' > > parse.c:45: parse error before 'ices_xml_get_children_node' > > parse.c:45: parse error before 'cur' > > and the rest are warnings. > > Ah, the old error. That is not a lame problem. You need the full > libxml2 package, including header files. You may wish to download and > compile it yourself, as you did with lame. > > -Brendan > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Fri Aug 24 01:34:19 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:34:19 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B85ADF9.E7D92803@dsli.com> Message-ID: <20010823213417.F1873@xanadu.kublai.com> On Thursday, 23 August 2001 at 21:29, Scott Vetter wrote: > OK, where can I find the libxm12 package? from ftp://ftp.xmlsoft.org/ I notice they have rpms, including libxml2-devel rpms, too. You might start with those. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From j.arman at gte.net Fri Aug 24 06:37:43 2001 From: j.arman at gte.net (j) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:37:43 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Directory listings In-Reply-To: <20010823205708.C1873@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: <01082323374300.01668@linux> I apologize if this has already been covered, i tried searching the archives with no results (no results for any search in fact). I am getting listed on shoutcast now after update to 1.3.11, but only one of two streams is listed. I'm still not getting listed on icecast. I tried the others in the config file, didn't work. Anyone know other directories to touch? Thanks, Jeff Armantrout KUCR 88.3 University of California Riverside kucr.org --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Fri Aug 24 07:04:45 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 01:04:45 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Directory listings In-Reply-To: <01082323374300.01668@linux> Message-ID: <20010824010445.C1475@i.cantcode.com> > I am getting listed on shoutcast now after update to 1.3.11, but only one of > two streams is listed. I'm still not getting listed on icecast. I tried the > others in the config file, didn't work. You can only list one station (the primary mount) per server on yp.shoutcast.com due to limitations in their service. yp.icecast.org should list all of them. I'll double check that everything is running smoothly. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From rocaelh at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 14:44:52 2001 From: rocaelh at yahoo.com (Rocael Hernandez) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] more than one sound card In-Reply-To: <01082323374300.01668@linux> Message-ID: <20010824144452.27615.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm planning to stream to radios audios, and I want to know if is possible to have two sound cards in the same linux box, so I can run, for example to liveice or MuSE process, each one taking real time input from a different sound card and stream it to icecast? Have somebody done this? Do I need to do a specific configuration? I will use Linux Mandrake 8, what kind of sound card do you recomend me (something that works great for radio input and easy to setup in linux). Thank you! Rocael. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Fri Aug 24 14:53:54 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:53:54 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the client Message-ID: I'm curious what method y'all are using for getting your streams going on the client. We've been using a hyperlink to the stream like this: http://www.fatfreeradio.net:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/hifi&file=dummy.pls It works okay but people get prompted to save or open the file. It would be better if it just opened their streaming player each time, without the dialog. Anyone know any way to do that? Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tim at nvhs.nl Fri Aug 24 14:59:11 2001 From: tim at nvhs.nl (tim) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:59:11 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010824165911.A2047@xs4all.nl> you need to set netscape for that. your netscape is not yet set to send .pls/m3u files to your mp3 player. t. * Hunter Hillegas [010824 16:53]: > I'm curious what method y'all are using for getting your streams going on > the client. > > We've been using a hyperlink to the stream like this: > http://www.fatfreeradio.net:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/hifi&file=dummy.pls > > It works okay but people get prompted to save or open the file. It would be > better if it just opened their streaming player each time, without the > dialog. > > Anyone know any way to do that? > > Hunter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From wildbill at kpig.com Fri Aug 24 15:23:57 2001 From: wildbill at kpig.com (William Goldsmith) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:23:57 -0700 Subject: [icecast] more than one sound card In-Reply-To: <20010824144452.27615.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007801c12cb0$cb7abf50$6a00000a@laptop> That's easy enough to do with a decent sound driver like OSS or ALSA. I use the pro version of OSS (www.opensound.com) & run 2, 3, or 4 cards w/ no problem. -bg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocael Hernandez" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: [icecast] more than one sound card > Hi, I'm planning to stream to radios audios, and I > want to know if is possible to have two sound cards in > the same linux box, so I can run, for example to > liveice or MuSE process, each one taking real time > input from a different sound card and stream it to > icecast? > > Have somebody done this? > > Do I need to do a specific configuration? > > > I will use Linux Mandrake 8, what kind of sound card > do you recomend me (something that works great for > radio input and easy to setup in linux). > > Thank you! > Rocael. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Fri Aug 24 15:08:27 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:08:27 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the client In-Reply-To: <20010824165911.A2047@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hmmm... Maybe I wasn't clear. This is a public Web site. Some people are using Netscape, most using IE... All different kinds of media players, mostly WinAmp, Real, WMP, and iTunes. What I'm looking for is a way for the media player to be launched automatically. If I choose "Open from this location" from the link, WinAmp DOES open. .pls files *are* mapped to WinAmp, I'd just like to be able to skip this step if I can. Or make it easier in some way. What I don't really want is people saving the link to the stream on their desktop and never coming back to the Web site. I'd like them to have a reason to come back and visit the site. Does that make sense? Hunter > From: tim > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:59:11 +0200 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the > client > > > you need to set netscape for that. your netscape is not yet set > to send .pls/m3u files to your mp3 player. > > t. > > * Hunter Hillegas [010824 16:53]: >> I'm curious what method y'all are using for getting your streams going on >> the client. >> >> We've been using a hyperlink to the stream like this: >> http://www.fatfreeradio.net:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/hifi&file=dummy.pls >> >> It works okay but people get prompted to save or open the file. It would be >> better if it just opened their streaming player each time, without the >> dialog. >> >> Anyone know any way to do that? >> >> Hunter >> >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From music at performantsystems.com Fri Aug 24 20:32:41 2001 From: music at performantsystems.com (Big Al) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:32:41 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B86B9E9.DF8BBB14@performantsystems.com> I put together a little tutorial after having the same problem. You need to enlighten the client browser, here are some clues: http://www.modernamericanmusic.com/techtips.html Hunter Hillegas wrote: > > Hmmm... Maybe I wasn't clear. > > This is a public Web site. Some people are using Netscape, most using IE... > All different kinds of media players, mostly WinAmp, Real, WMP, and iTunes. > > What I'm looking for is a way for the media player to be launched > automatically. > > If I choose "Open from this location" from the link, WinAmp DOES open. .pls > files *are* mapped to WinAmp, I'd just like to be able to skip this step if > I can. Or make it easier in some way. > > What I don't really want is people saving the link to the stream on their > desktop and never coming back to the Web site. I'd like them to have a > reason to come back and visit the site. > > Does that make sense? > > Hunter > > > From: tim > > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:59:11 +0200 > > To: icecast at xiph.org > > Subject: Re: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the > > client > > > > > > you need to set netscape for that. your netscape is not yet set > > to send .pls/m3u files to your mp3 player. > > > > t. > > > > * Hunter Hillegas [010824 16:53]: > >> I'm curious what method y'all are using for getting your streams going on > >> the client. > >> > >> We've been using a hyperlink to the stream like this: > >> http://www.fatfreeradio.net:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/hifi&file=dummy.pls > >> > >> It works okay but people get prompted to save or open the file. It would be > >> better if it just opened their streaming player each time, without the > >> dialog. > >> > >> Anyone know any way to do that? > >> > >> Hunter > >> > >> > >> --- >8 ---- > >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gshang at uq.net.au Sat Aug 25 00:06:03 2001 From: gshang at uq.net.au (Geoff Shang) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:06:03 +1000 Subject: [icecast] Getting the Stream to "Just Start Playing" on the client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > Hmmm... Maybe I wasn't clear. > > This is a public Web site. Some people are using Netscape, most using IE... > All different kinds of media players, mostly WinAmp, Real, WMP, and iTunes. OK, you will hit trouble using this approach if you want to cater to all those players. WMP and real don't respect pls. You could either have different links for each type of player or just use an M3U file which should launch their designated MP3 player. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From justin at shaggydawg.com Sat Aug 25 03:25:33 2001 From: justin at shaggydawg.com (Justin Zipperle) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:25:33 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey all, I've been having the same "Client not receiving data fast enough" errors. I've got icecast configured so as not to send info to ANY yp directories. Even on a quiet 100MB connection between client and server, I can stay connected for only about 5 minutes at a shot if I'm lucky. I'm using Icecast 1.3.11, and Shout 0.8.0. The files I'm streaming are all 22kHz, 64kbps, mono. A 6 minute file will go through Shout in roughly 5 minutes and 15 seconds. If I watch the stats in WinAMP, I can see that the buffer is just being filled up and maintained between 95-100% until the stream drops. If I request a file through Icecast without calling on Shout to broadcast it (i.e., http://server:8000/file/filename.mp3), I have no problems, even with a 75 minute file. So it seems to me that the problem is somewhere either in Shout's stream, or Icecast's handling of that stream - one is pushing too fast, or the other is pulling too fast. I'm not sure if any of this is helpful, but I figure it doesn't hurt to bring it up. -Justin ---------- > Actually, I have seen this problem quite a bit as you all will > remember. It isn't ices (I don't think) rather it seems to be > something wrong in icecast. More specifically with the yp server > section of code. The more yp directories you have listed the higher > the chance of getting the not streaming fast enough error. I have > trimmed all my directory servers back to just yp.icecast.org and for > the most part the problem has vanished. Now there is one odd caveat, > last week at some point our internal network was disconnected from the > outside world. I could still stream internally. I had removed all of > the yp directory server entries so icecast shouldn't have been trying > to leave the internal network. I could not stay connected for more > than 50-80 seconds. The error was always the same not streaming fast > enough error but obviously it has nothing to do with the client at > all. So as far as that goes it is a very misleading error message and > probably one of the reasons we haven't been able to hunt it down. So > there is some food for thought. Jack Brendan got any ideas? I've > been taking the long term approach to hunting this one down. I have > set the debug level up to four but the problem code seems to sneak > between the debug code bits. > > > Kirk > > > > -- > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Sat Aug 25 05:13:28 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:13:28 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010824231328.L1475@i.cantcode.com> > Icecast 1.3.11, and Shout 0.8.0. The files I'm streaming are all 22kHz, And if you did even a cursory search of the archives, you'd find that ices 0.2.2 is what you should be using and that shout is the root of all evil. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tim at nvhs.nl Sat Aug 25 08:01:18 2001 From: tim at nvhs.nl (tim) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:01:18 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: <20010824231328.L1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <20010825100118.A18619@xs4all.nl> indeed, ices 0.2.2 is most stable. it's the third source i've used and the most stable. hmm, why is it still called "development"? t. (stream -- http://sandow.xs4all.nl:8000/pr0n) * Jack Moffitt [010825 07:13]: > > Icecast 1.3.11, and Shout 0.8.0. The files I'm streaming are all 22kHz, > > And if you did even a cursory search of the archives, you'd find that > ices 0.2.2 is what you should be using and that shout is the root of all > evil. > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Sat Aug 25 14:15:09 2001 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 25 Aug 2001 10:15:09 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Error: Client not receiving data fast enough In-Reply-To: <20010824231328.L1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: Jack Moffitt writes: > And if you did even a cursory search of the archives, you'd find that > ices 0.2.2 is what you should be using and that shout is the root of all > evil. Well, the root of all evil with respect to this error is icecast and has nothing to do with ices or shout. The problem has to do with icecast not being able to update directory servers and keep streaming to a client. On-the-other-hand, it has some to do with linux networking as well because under 2.4.9 with brain dead vm icecast kills pretty well all clients after a few seconds. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Sun Aug 26 23:33:14 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:33:14 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Problems with 1.3.11 and Ices 0.22 Message-ID: We just built a new server to run Icecast 1.3.11 and Ices 0.22. It's a Dual PIII running RH7.1. We put it online last night and Icecast ran fine for 20 hours. Then it started throwing some errors.. That's when Ices died. Ices reported a libshout error. Part of the Icecast log is included. What can I do about this? Hunter [26/Aug/2001:16:05:01] [32:Connection Handler] Accepted client 28 from [209.245.202.133] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 8 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:05:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:05:11] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 23 [209.226.122.117] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 39 seconds, 110573 bytes transfered. 7 clients connected 209.226.122.117 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:11 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 110573 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 39 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:17] [34:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 30 [64.228.105.106] [Generated playlist], connected for 2 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:20] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 27 [205.162.218.192] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 22 seconds, 57273 bytes transfered. 6 clients connected 205.162.218.192 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:20 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 57273 "-" "Xaudio/1.0" 22 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:21] [35:Connection Handler] Accepted client 31 from [64.228.105.106] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 7 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:05:26] [36:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 32 [207.71.250.180] [Displayed mountlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:28] [37:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 33 [209.226.122.117] [Generated playlist], connected for 1 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:33] [38:Connection Handler] Accepted client 34 from [209.226.122.117] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 8 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:05:36] [39:Static File Thread] Kicking unknown 35 [207.71.250.180] [Displayed directory list], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:41] [40:Connection Handler] Accepted client 36 from [207.71.250.180] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 9 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:05:43] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 36 [207.71.250.180] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 seconds, 4026 bytes transfered. 8 clients connected 207.71.250.180 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:43 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 4026 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.12; Mac_PowerPC)" 2 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:45] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 31 [64.228.105.106] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 24 seconds, 65487 bytes transfered. 7 clients connected 64.228.105.106 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:45 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 65487 "-" "RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)" 24 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:46] [41:Connection Handler] Accepted client 37 from [209.226.122.117] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 8 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:05:46] [42:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 38 [207.71.250.180] [Displayed mountlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:47] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 28 [209.245.202.133] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 47 seconds, 131043 bytes transfered. 7 clients connected 209.245.202.133 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:47 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 131043 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 47 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:47] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 34 [209.226.122.117] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 14 seconds, 36846 bytes transfered. 7 clients connected 209.226.122.117 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:05:47 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 36846 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 14 [26/Aug/2001:16:05:57] [43:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 39 [64.228.105.106] [Generated playlist], connected for 1 seconds [26/Aug/2001:16:05:58] [44:Connection Handler] Accepted client 40 from [64.228.105.106] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 7 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:16:06:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:16:06:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:16:06:04] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_add([yp.breakfree.com:80]) failed... directory server error #0... (retry in 37 seconds) [26/Aug/2001:16:06:05] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.breakfree.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:06:05] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_add([yp.musicseek.net:80]) failed... directory server error #0... (retry in 36 seconds) [26/Aug/2001:16:06:05] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.musicseek.net]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:06:05] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_add([yp.radiostation.de:80]) failed... directory server error #0... (retry in 36 seconds) [26/Aug/2001:16:06:15] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.radiostation.de]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:06:15] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:06:16] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_add([yp.van-pelt.com:80]) failed... directory server error #0... (retry in 25 seconds) [26/Aug/2001:16:06:16] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.van-pelt.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:16:06:37] [5:Source Thread] Kicking client 16 [24.247.140.117] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 minutes and 55 seconds, 1392458 bytes transfered. 6 cli ents connected 24.247.140.117 - - [26/Aug/2001:16:06:37 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 1392458 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 175 [root at greedo icecast]# tail -n 300 access.log | more [26/Aug/2001:14:09:50] [2787:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2783 from [62.224.208.69] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 34 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:10:10] [2788:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2784 from [217.82.106.23] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 35 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:10:17] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:10:17] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:10:17] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:10:22] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 2776 [216.220.170.70] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 3 minutes and 5 s econds, 289363 bytes transfered. 34 clients connected 216.220.170.70 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:10:22 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 289363 "-" "iTunes/1.1 (Macintosh; N; PPC)" 185 [26/Aug/2001:14:10:36] [2790:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2786 [62.83.210.135] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:10:52] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 2784 [217.82.106.23] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 42 seconds, 122248 bytes transfered. 33 clients connecte d 217.82.106.23 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:10:52 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 122248 "-" "Audion/2.0.0" 42 [26/Aug/2001:14:10:57] [2791:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2787 [62.224.208.69] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:10:58] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 2783 [62.224.208.69] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 1 minutes and 8 seconds, 195997 bytes transfered. 32 cli ents connected 62.224.208.69 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:10:58 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 195997 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 68 [26/Aug/2001:14:10:58] [2792:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2788 from [62.224.208.69] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 33 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:11:09] [2793:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2789 from [62.83.210.135] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 34 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:11:16] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:11:16] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:11:16] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:11:42] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2752 [200.63.16.220] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 10 minutes and 50 seconds, 5188920 bytes transfered. 3 3 clients connected 200.63.16.220 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:11:42 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 5188920 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 650 [26/Aug/2001:14:11:42] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:11:42] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:11:43] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:11:52] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2621 [24.89.12.220] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 39 minutes and 43 seconds, 19063299 bytes transfered. 3 2 clients connected 24.89.12.220 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:11:52 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 19063299 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 2383 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:02] [2795:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2791 [24.201.210.54] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:12:03] [2796:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2792 from [24.201.210.54] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 33 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:12:11] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2788 [62.224.208.69] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 1 minutes and 13 seconds, 374941 bytes transfered. 32 clients connected 62.224.208.69 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:12:11 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 374941 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 73 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:23] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2792 [24.201.210.54] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 20 seconds, 155527 bytes transfered. 31 clients connec ted 24.201.210.54 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:12:23 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 155527 "-" "iTunes/1.1 (Macintosh; N; PPC)" 20 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:26] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:27] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:27] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:12:33] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2047 [12.28.37.238] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 hours, 43 minutes and 30 seconds, 78474918 bytes tran sfered. 30 clients connected 12.28.37.238 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:12:33 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 78474918 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 9810 [26/Aug/2001:14:12:39] [2798:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2794 from [62.7.56.22] on mountpoint [/lofi]. 31 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:13:04] [2799:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2795 from [200.213.216.54] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 32 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:13:06] [4:Source Thread] Kicking client 2794 [62.7.56.22] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 27 seconds, 73723 bytes transfered. 31 clients connected 62.7.56.22 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:13:06 -0700] "GET /lofi HTTP/1.0" 200 73723 "-" "FreeAmp/2.1.0" 27 [26/Aug/2001:14:13:26] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:13:26] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:13:26] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:13:37] [2800:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2796 from [24.43.206.49] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 32 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:13:43] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2796 [24.43.206.49] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 6 seconds, 40856 bytes transfered. 31 clients connected 24.43.206.49 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:13:43 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 40856 "-" "xmms/1.2.5" 6 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:24] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:24] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:25] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:14:43] [2802:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2798 from [212.239.183.124] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 32 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:14:51] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2014 [155.198.67.96] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 hours, 54 minutes and 46 seconds, 83770261 bytes tra nsfered. 31 clients connected 155.198.67.96 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:14:51 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 83770261 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.6" 10486 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:59] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:59] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:14:59] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:15:26] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2668 [147.9.169.88] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 32 minutes and 29 seconds, 15578691 bytes transfered. 3 0 clients connected 147.9.169.88 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:15:26 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 15578691 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 1949 [26/Aug/2001:14:15:26] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2795 [200.213.216.54] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 minutes and 22 seconds, 1072343 bytes transfered. 2 9 clients connected 200.213.216.54 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:15:26 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 1072343 "-" "xmms/1.2.5" 142 [26/Aug/2001:14:15:28] [2804:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2800 from [200.213.216.54] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 30 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:15:29] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:15:30] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:15:30] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:15:57] [2806:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2802 [128.192.197.17] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:16:00] [2807:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2803 from [128.192.197.17] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 31 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:16:09] [2808:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2804 [142.166.108.26] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:16:11] [2810:Connection Handler] Socket error on connection 2806 [26/Aug/2001:14:16:11] [2810:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2806 [217.110.121.70] [Socket error], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:16:11] [2809:Connection Handler] Socket error on connection 2805 [26/Aug/2001:14:16:11] [2809:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2805 [217.110.121.70] [Socket error], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:16:15] [2811:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2807 from [142.166.108.26] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 32 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:16:29] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:16:29] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:16:29] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:16:37] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2803 [128.192.197.17] [Too many errors (client not receiving data fast enough)] [listener], connected for 37 seconds, 335 80 bytes transfered. 31 clients connected 128.192.197.17 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:16:37 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 33580 "-" "RMA/1.0 (compatible; RealMedia)" 37 [26/Aug/2001:14:16:57] [2812:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2808 [205.188.200.38] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:16:59] [2813:Connection Handler] Accepted client 2809 from [128.192.197.17] on mountpoint [/mediofi]. 32 clients connected [26/Aug/2001:14:17:14] [2814:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2810 [62.106.8.131] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:15] [158:Source Thread] Kicking client 2798 [212.239.183.124] [Client signed off] [listener], connected for 2 minutes and 32 seconds, 1200099 bytes transfered. 31 clients connected 212.239.183.124 - - [26/Aug/2001:14:17:15 -0700] "GET /mediofi HTTP/1.0" 200 1200099 "-" "WinampMPEG/2.7" 152 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:23] [2815:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2811 [192.25.139.153] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:26] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:29] [2817:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2813 [192.25.139.153] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:32] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:32] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch([yp.shoutcast.com]) completed... [26/Aug/2001:14:17:36] [2819:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2815 [192.25.139.153] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:36] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.icecast.org:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:36] [2820:Connection Handler] Socket error on connection 2816 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:36] [2820:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2816 [62.106.8.131] [Socket error], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:37] [1:Calendar Thread] directory_touch_xa([yp.mp3.de:80]) completed...server id = 69 [26/Aug/2001:14:17:39] [2821:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2817 [65.11.15.11] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:45] [2824:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2820 [62.106.8.131] [Generated playlist], connected for 1 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:17:55] [2825:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2821 [192.25.139.153] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:17] [2832:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2828 [66.50.96.90] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:30] [2838:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2834 [24.64.85.24] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:38] [2840:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2836 [128.192.197.17] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:46] [2844:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2840 [62.131.124.179] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:48] [2845:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2841 [62.83.210.135] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:54] [2848:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2844 [128.192.197.17] [Generated playlist], connected for 3 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:18:59] [2852:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2848 [142.165.142.105] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:19:10] [2857:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2853 [66.50.96.90] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:19:26] [2864:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2860 [24.64.85.24] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:19:57] [2870:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2866 [24.64.85.24] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds [26/Aug/2001:14:20:04] [2874:Connection Handler] Kicking unknown 2870 [62.131.124.179] [Generated playlist], connected for 0 seconds --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Mon Aug 27 00:28:52 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:28:52 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B899444.B9831823@dsli.com> Where can I find the 3.87 version of LAME? I've seen nothing later than 3.80 and this was just for documentation. The place I'm looking is lame.sourceforge.net. Perhaps you know a site that has the latest and greatest... Scott -------- Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. That > > appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either > > replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without problem. > > However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a > > directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this directory? > > > > IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process or > > scroll back to find the first error? > > Hi, > > I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame > library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header > file in the right place. > > In your case, lame.h is in the dir you mentioned (root/lame3.70) because > that's where you unpacked the source ;) > > If 3.87 does not install the header file in the usual location > (which would probably be /usr/local/include, or (slightly less likely) > /usr/local/include/lame, both in case for a source install), you can copy > it there manually, because that's where it should end up anyway - only the > lame people have historically been better at writing code than packaging. > > If you don't want to do that, copying that lame.h to your ices source dir > will work as well. > > Thomas > > <-*- -*-> > I looked up at Anna > She turned back to look at me > It's best to kill the ones that matter > Render blind the ones that see > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From svetter at dsli.com Mon Aug 27 00:53:43 2001 From: svetter at dsli.com (Scott Vetter) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:53:43 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3B899A16.90872DC4@dsli.com> Never mind I found the latest version of LAME and got the 3.87 version as you mentioned. When I did the gmake (interesting that it is no longer make) it still got the same errors. I copied the lame.h file to the directories /usr/local/include, /usr/local/include/lame, and even to the same directory as ices and still got the same error! Any ideas what to try next? Thanks, Scott ----- Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > OK, I found LAME's web site and installed it using the source for it. That > > appears to work. I also found a couple of libxml... packages and either > > replaced the existing ones and added a few others. That went without problem. > > However the same problem exists. I found that the lame.h file is in a > > directory of /root/lame3.70 Perhaps the make can't find it at this directory? > > > > IS there anyway during the make process that I can pause the process or > > scroll back to find the first error? > > Hi, > > I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame > library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header > file in the right place. > > In your case, lame.h is in the dir you mentioned (root/lame3.70) because > that's where you unpacked the source ;) > > If 3.87 does not install the header file in the usual location > (which would probably be /usr/local/include, or (slightly less likely) > /usr/local/include/lame, both in case for a source install), you can copy > it there manually, because that's where it should end up anyway - only the > lame people have historically been better at writing code than packaging. > > If you don't want to do that, copying that lame.h to your ices source dir > will work as well. > > Thomas > > <-*- -*-> > I looked up at Anna > She turned back to look at me > It's best to kill the ones that matter > Render blind the ones that see > <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> > URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From gtgbr at gmx.net Mon Aug 27 05:05:36 2001 From: gtgbr at gmx.net (Moritz Grimm) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:05:36 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B899A16.90872DC4@dsli.com> Message-ID: <3B89D520.305A5F6C@gmx.net> Scott Vetter wrote: > Never mind I found the latest version of LAME and got the 3.87 version as you > mentioned. When I did the gmake (interesting that it is no longer make) it still > > I would first of all recommend getting at least lame 3.87; it makes a lame > > library for you, and if I recall correctly, it also installs the header > > file in the right place. D'oh... :) "Last is not least" or something, the latest lame is 3.89. Get it from ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/lame3.89beta.tar.gz . icecast.org --> *click* on LAME Project --> dl sources --> "Click here ..." is how I found the link. Moritz --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Mon Aug 27 06:08:43 2001 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Maroy Akos) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] IceCast 2 developer documentation Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to extend the features of my DarkIce program, so that it can work with IceCast 2. Is there any developer documentation available, like how to connect a source to IceCast 2, what are the differences with regards to IceCast 1? Also, what is the situation at the moment: does IceCast 2 still only support Ogg Vorbis, or does it support mp3 as well already? Thanks, Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From darkeye at tyrell.hu Mon Aug 27 06:10:11 2001 From: darkeye at tyrell.hu (Maroy Akos) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:10:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B899444.B9831823@dsli.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Scott Vetter wrote: > Where can I find the 3.87 version of LAME? I've seen nothing later than 3.80 and > this was just for documentation. The place I'm looking is lame.sourceforge.net. > Perhaps you know a site that has the latest and greatest... Try ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/ Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be Mon Aug 27 13:26:49 2001 From: thomas at urgent.rug.ac.be (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [icecast] Newbe: OK so far? In-Reply-To: <3B899A16.90872DC4@dsli.com> Message-ID: Hi, now you've lost me a bit ... You say : > Never mind I found the latest version of LAME and got the 3.87 version as you > mentioned. When I did the gmake (interesting that it is no longer make) it still > got the same errors. I suppose you ran gmake in the lame source dir, judging from what you mailed ? I don't remember having to use gmake for lame, and I suppose it doesn't matter anyway if you use make or gmake. But the errors you had before where not while compiling lame, where they ? So I think you've missed a few steps here. Could you say exactly what you did do in setting up and compiling lame and ices and say where the errors are ? > Anyway, before I copied the lame.h file to the directories > /usr/local/include, /usr/local/include/lame, and even to the same directory as ices > and still got the same error! Also here: before what ? You should be able to get it up and running, and I'm willing to help as far as I can if you tell me where the problem is exactly. I can't go back to your first post because I've deleted it and the archive is a bit fickly ;) (Does the search work for anyone, and if so, can someone give me a search query that returns a result ???) Thomas <-*- -*-> But you never lost your beauty Although you lost your hope And you made no mistake you couldn't wash away with liar's tears pouring down your face <-*- thomas at apestaart.org -*-> URGent, the best radio on the Internet - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.rug.ac.be/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 15:35:31 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:35:31 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse Message-ID: The Icecast problems I mentioned yesterday on our new server are getting worse. This time the server only stayed up for about 30 minutes before dying (no more music - process is still running). Obviously this won't fly. Again, ices reports: Error during send: Libshout reported send error, disconnecting: Libshout socket error That's when everything stops. What can we do? Thanks, Hunter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From tim at nvhs.nl Mon Aug 27 15:57:07 2001 From: tim at nvhs.nl (tim) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:57:07 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827175706.A16461@xs4all.nl> which libshout are you using? t. * Hunter Hillegas [010827 17:35]: > The Icecast problems I mentioned yesterday on our new server are getting > worse. > > This time the server only stayed up for about 30 minutes before dying (no > more music - process is still running). Obviously this won't fly. > > Again, ices reports: > > Error during send: Libshout reported send error, disconnecting: Libshout > socket error > > That's when everything stops. > > What can we do? > > Thanks, > Hunter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 16:05:31 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:05:31 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827175706.A16461@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: I'm using whatever comes with Icecast 1.3.11 and Ices 0.22. Just grabbed both tarballs from Icecast.org. Is there a way to find out the libshout version? I can't really tell from the Ices source... Hunter > From: tim > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:57:07 +0200 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > > which libshout are you using? > > t. > > * Hunter Hillegas [010827 17:35]: >> The Icecast problems I mentioned yesterday on our new server are getting >> worse. >> >> This time the server only stayed up for about 30 minutes before dying (no >> more music - process is still running). Obviously this won't fly. >> >> Again, ices reports: >> >> Error during send: Libshout reported send error, disconnecting: Libshout >> socket error >> >> That's when everything stops. >> >> What can we do? >> >> Thanks, >> Hunter >> >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' >> containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >> Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at m-centric.com Mon Aug 27 16:12:34 2001 From: matt at m-centric.com (matt mcConnell) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:12:34 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? Message-ID: <053301c12f13$1531bdb0$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> Hi, I was just playing around with Icecast and wanted to see if I could get it to work under cygwin (without spending a lot of time on it). I got it to compile by undefining _WIN32 in the CFLAGS make variable (-U_WIN32), but it seems like the issue is a little deeper than this simplistic hack - when I start up the server I get the message WARNING: No mt while outputting [WARNING: Nonexistant thread alive...][27/Aug/2001:17:47:52] WARNING: Nonexistant thread alive... Has anyone gotten Icecast to run under cygwin? If you have a couple of minutes, send me some pointers. But don't spend much time on it - like I said, I'm just playing around. matt --- The real problem is entropy. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 27 16:27:06 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:27:06 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827102706.A1475@i.cantcode.com> > I'm using whatever comes with Icecast 1.3.11 and Ices 0.22. > > Just grabbed both tarballs from Icecast.org. > > Is there a way to find out the libshout version? I can't really tell from > the Ices source... Hunter, You can look in ices/src/libshout/configure.in at the top I think. Icecast doesn't have SMP issues that I know of, as we ran it on SMP systems for a long time. So let's go through all the obvious things: What kind of LAN is this on? Has it been recently reconfigured (possible problem: duplexes might not be consistent, etc) Does icecast 0.1 behave differently? (possible problem: bug in ices 0.2.2) Let's try and narrow the scope a bit. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 27 16:28:33 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:28:33 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? In-Reply-To: <053301c12f13$1531bdb0$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> Message-ID: <20010827102833.B1475@i.cantcode.com> > Has anyone gotten Icecast to run under cygwin? If you have a couple of > minutes, send me some pointers. But don't spend much time on it - like I > said, I'm just playing around. Cygwin had too many thread issues back when I was doing the windows port, so I did a true port. It builds great under MSVC6. There are a few windows specific issues that arne't worked out in the current codebase, but icecast2 will get extensive win32 testing from the beginning. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From arey at dsdial.net Mon Aug 27 16:31:05 2001 From: arey at dsdial.net (Arey, Peter) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:31:05 -0400 Subject: [icecast] can't unsubscribe - host unknown (for a week now) sorry to put on list In-Reply-To: <20010827102833.B1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <001b01c12f15$ac2af680$94fdb5d8@primusdsl.net> The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <'icecast-request at xiph.org'> (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Moffitt" To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? > > Has anyone gotten Icecast to run under cygwin? If you have a couple of > > minutes, send me some pointers. But don't spend much time on it - like I > > said, I'm just playing around. > > Cygwin had too many thread issues back when I was doing the windows > port, so I did a true port. It builds great under MSVC6. > > There are a few windows specific issues that arne't worked out in the > current codebase, but icecast2 will get extensive win32 testing from the > beginning. > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 16:36:25 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:36:25 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827102706.A1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: See below... > From: Jack Moffitt > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:27:06 -0600 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > Hunter, > > You can look in ices/src/libshout/configure.in at the top I think. libshout 1.0.6 > > Icecast doesn't have SMP issues that I know of, as we ran it on SMP > systems for a long time. So let's go through all the obvious things: > > What kind of LAN is this on? Has it been recently reconfigured > (possible problem: duplexes might not be consistent, etc) It's a FastEthernet LAN. All ports are full duplex running through a Catalyst 2900. Both Icecast and Ices are running on the same machine. No errors on the ports, etc... > > Does icecast 0.1 behave differently? (possible problem: bug in ices > 0.2.2) Nope, Ices 0.1 does the same thing. > > Let's try and narrow the scope a bit. Great. Let me know what other info you need. > > jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 27 16:43:53 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:43:53 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827104353.C1475@i.cantcode.com> > libshout 1.0.6 That's fine.. there were no streaming changes to libshout sincie 0.3 or so i think. Mostly just fixes in protocol or in icy compatibility mode. > It's a FastEthernet LAN. All ports are full duplex running through a > Catalyst 2900. Both Icecast and Ices are running on the same machine. No > errors on the ports, etc... We used 2900s as well, and they are horrid at autodetection. Be sure to set that stuff manually and make sure to get it right on both ends. Note: since you're running ices and icecase on the same box, this probably isn't the issue. > Nope, Ices 0.1 does the same thing. What about running ices 0.2.2 on a different host? Does the same problem exist? jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Mon Aug 27 16:56:58 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:56:58 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827125651.C3747@xanadu.kublai.com> On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 09:36, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > > Does icecast 0.1 behave differently? (possible problem: bug in ices > > 0.2.2) > > Nope, Ices 0.1 does the same thing. > > > > > Let's try and narrow the scope a bit. > > Great. Let me know what other info you need. I believe you are using some yp servers. Try turning them off and see if you get more stability. A last resort (strictly for debugging purposes, of course :) is to run ices against shoutcast on an otherwise identical setup. That should help in determining whether the bug is in icecast, your network, or ices. -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From kirk at braille.uwo.ca Mon Aug 27 16:58:03 2001 From: kirk at braille.uwo.ca (Kirk Reiser) Date: 27 Aug 2001 12:58:03 -0400 Subject: [icecast] cvs icecast seems to have gotten very flakey. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Folks: I upgraded a week or so ago to the most recent cvs icecast and clients can not stay connected for more than about 30 to 50 seconds. I was acusing the kernel of being the culprit but it would appear not. I went back to an earlier version of the kernel and the problem still exists. In fact, shoutcast and freecast are running on the box as well and they're doing just fine. It is the age old error about client not receiving data fast enough. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? Just when I thought I finally had it all straightened out! Oh well. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 17:45:27 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:45:27 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827104353.C1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: Haven't tried this... Right now, that's the only box we have in the co-lo... > From: Jack Moffitt > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:43:53 -0600 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > > What about running ices 0.2.2 on a different host? Does the same > problem exist? > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 17:46:32 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:46:32 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827125651.C3747@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the suggestions. I put ices in verbose mode. So far it's been up for almost 2 hours. If it dies again hopefully ices will give some more feedback. Hunter > From: Brendan Cully > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:56:58 -0400 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > I believe you are using some yp servers. Try turning them off and see if > you get more stability. A last resort (strictly for debugging purposes, > of course :) is to run ices against shoutcast on an otherwise identical > setup. That should help in determining whether the bug is in icecast, > your network, or ices. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at m-centric.com Mon Aug 27 17:54:21 2001 From: matt at m-centric.com (matt mcConnell) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:54:21 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? Solaris? In-Reply-To: <20010827102833.B1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <058c01c12f21$4d2c7530$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> Hi, Thanks for the fast info. I had thought it might be a Cygwin specific thing. Oh well. I found some space on a Solaris server to install. Icecast built fine and seems to work, but now shout (0.8.0) doesn't compile, with this error: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -ansi -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o shout shout.c rand.o mpeg.o confi gfile.o sock.o util.o -lresolv -lnsl -lsocket -lrt ld: fatal: file sock.o: wrong machine type ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to shout collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [shout] Error 1 (I'm running shout from... cygwin to get Icecast working) It looks like shout may be obsolete, but I'm not sure what the replacement is. Is there any documentation on shout or its replacement? matt --- The real problem is entropy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Moffitt" To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? > > Has anyone gotten Icecast to run under cygwin? If you have a couple of > > minutes, send me some pointers. But don't spend much time on it - like I > > said, I'm just playing around. > > Cygwin had too many thread issues back when I was doing the windows > port, so I did a true port. It builds great under MSVC6. > > There are a few windows specific issues that arne't worked out in the > current codebase, but icecast2 will get extensive win32 testing from the > beginning. > > jack. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. > --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at m-centric.com Mon Aug 27 18:18:57 2001 From: matt at m-centric.com (matt mcConnell) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:18:57 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Icecast under cygwin? Solaris? In-Reply-To: <[icecast] Icecast under cygwin? Solaris?> Message-ID: <05c001c12f24$bd1395b0$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> > I found some space on a Solaris server to install. Icecast built fine > and seems to work, but now shout (0.8.0) doesn't compile, with this error: > > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -ansi -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o shout shout.c rand.o mpeg.o > confi > gfile.o sock.o util.o -lresolv -lnsl -lsocket -lrt > ld: fatal: file sock.o: wrong machine type > ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to shout > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [shout] Error 1 Hmm, strange, I removed only the sock.o file and rebuilt with no problem. But if I do a make clean, I will have the same error every time. I guess I need to examine the build process better. matt --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 20:03:55 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:03:55 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827125651.C3747@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: Okay. It died again after about 4 hours. I will turn off the yp servers and see if that helps. Any other ideas? Same thing, BTW, ices reported a libshout error. Hunter > From: Brendan Cully > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:56:58 -0400 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > I believe you are using some yp servers. Try turning them off and see if > you get more stability. A last resort (strictly for debugging purposes, > of course :) is to run ices against shoutcast on an otherwise identical > setup. That should help in determining whether the bug is in icecast, > your network, or ices. > > -Brendan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From brendan at icecast.org Mon Aug 27 20:06:31 2001 From: brendan at icecast.org (Brendan Cully) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:06:31 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827160625.H3747@xanadu.kublai.com> On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 13:03, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > Okay. It died again after about 4 hours. > > I will turn off the yp servers and see if that helps. > > Any other ideas? Same thing, BTW, ices reported a libshout error. What did you change for this last test, if you didn't turn off yp? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 20:15:00 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:15:00 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827160625.H3747@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: Some of the ices config files were pointing at localhost for the host name, even though the Icecast server is specifically told which IP to listen on. I changed them to make sure they matched. Here's some more info on our configuration: We launch three instances of Icecast, each with it's own configuration file that listen on different IPs and different ports (8000, 8001, 8002). Ices is then launched (each Icecast server gets two instances of Ices, there are high-fi and low-fi streams). We were hitting directory servers but now we are not. Ices and Icecast are running on the same machine. There is no re-encoding going on. Everything hums along for awhile until that libshout error in Ices. Hunter > From: Brendan Cully > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:06:31 -0400 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 13:03, Hunter Hillegas wrote: >> Okay. It died again after about 4 hours. >> >> I will turn off the yp servers and see if that helps. >> >> Any other ideas? Same thing, BTW, ices reported a libshout error. > > What did you change for this last test, if you didn't turn off yp? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From lists at lastonepicked.com Mon Aug 27 20:33:53 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:33:53 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827160625.H3747@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: I should add that when it stops working, Icecast and Ices are still running, it just seems that after that libshout error, Ices decides to stop streaming to Icecast. > From: Brendan Cully > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:06:31 -0400 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 13:03, Hunter Hillegas wrote: >> Okay. It died again after about 4 hours. >> >> I will turn off the yp servers and see if that helps. >> >> Any other ideas? Same thing, BTW, ices reported a libshout error. > > What did you change for this last test, if you didn't turn off yp? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From zzxcvv at yahoo.com Mon Aug 27 23:13:10 2001 From: zzxcvv at yahoo.com (j) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] listing 2 streams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010827231310.56238.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> I have 2 streams running from liveice to icecast 1.3.11, i'd like to have both listed on directory servers if possible. If i have two instances of icecast and liveice (possible?) one for each bitrate, would they both be listed? Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Mon Aug 27 21:31:38 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:31:38 -0600 Subject: [icecast] listing 2 streams In-Reply-To: <20010827231310.56238.qmail@web11407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010827153138.B2739@i.cantcode.com> > If i have two instances of icecast and liveice > (possible?) one for each bitrate, would they both be > listed? They will both be listed even if there's only one icecast server, at least on yp.icecast.org. icy directories like yp.shoutcast.com only allow one stream per ip/port pair, so you'll need multiple servers. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From j.arman at gte.net Tue Aug 28 06:48:12 2001 From: j.arman at gte.net (j) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:48:12 -0700 Subject: [icecast] listing 2 streams In-Reply-To: <20010827153138.B2739@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <01082723481203.02622@linux> On Monday 27 August 2001 14:31, you wrote: > > If i have two instances of icecast and liveice > > (possible?) one for each bitrate, would they both be > > listed? > > They will both be listed even if there's only one icecast server, at > least on yp.icecast.org. icy directories like yp.shoutcast.com only > allow one stream per ip/port pair, so you'll need multiple servers. > > jack. If there were one icecast running on 8000 and another on 8001, they would both be listed? Jeff --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From matt at m-centric.com Tue Aug 28 10:04:06 2001 From: matt at m-centric.com (matt mcConnell) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:04:06 +0200 Subject: [icecast] Scripted playlists with shout? In-Reply-To: <20010827102833.B1475@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: <00bf01c12fa8$c5cd1e90$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> Hi, Another basic question (the list archive search doesn't seem to be working). Is it possible to do scripted playlists with shout? I want to allow the people at my site to upload new mp3 files to the server and have them placed in the playlist automatically. I tried generating the playlist (file) with crontab, but it seems shout only reads the playlist once, at startup. I experimented with things like shout -D '/home/matt/scripts/all.sh' ... where all.sh contains a simple script like find /home/matt/music. But in this case, if there was no playlist file, shout complained. And if there was a playlist file, shout only played the songs in the file. I'm a bit stumped. I can't imagine want I to do is impossible. Does anyone have any example? Thanks, matt --- The real problem is entropy. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Tue Aug 28 15:14:16 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:14:16 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010827160625.H3747@xanadu.kublai.com> Message-ID: FYI, since turning off directory updates, the streams have been up 18 hours. So, if that does turn out to be the issue, is there anything that can be done to "fix" that? Is it a known bug? > From: Brendan Cully > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:06:31 -0400 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 13:03, Hunter Hillegas wrote: >> Okay. It died again after about 4 hours. >> >> I will turn off the yp servers and see if that helps. >> >> Any other ideas? Same thing, BTW, ices reported a libshout error. > > What did you change for this last test, if you didn't turn off yp? > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Tue Aug 28 15:51:34 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:51:34 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010828095134.B6095@i.cantcode.com> On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 08:14:16AM -0700, Hunter Hillegas wrote: > FYI, since turning off directory updates, the streams have been up 18 hours. > > So, if that does turn out to be the issue, is there anything that can be > done to "fix" that? Is it a known bug? Directory updates happen asyncronously in a separate thread. It sounds like there is a lock issue, where the directory is holding a lock for too long. It can probably be worked around with some effort. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Tue Aug 28 16:21:11 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:21:11 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010828095134.B6095@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: Do you know if this problem exists in Icecast2? Is it even worth fixing in the 1.x codebase? Are we the first people to see the bug? Hunter > From: Jack Moffitt > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:51:34 -0600 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > Directory updates happen asyncronously in a separate thread. It sounds > like there is a lock issue, where the directory is holding a lock for > too long. It can probably be worked around with some effort. > > jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From jack at xiph.org Tue Aug 28 16:24:54 2001 From: jack at xiph.org (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:24:54 -0600 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010828102454.C6095@i.cantcode.com> > Do you know if this problem exists in Icecast2? Is it even worth fixing in > the 1.x codebase? No, there is no directory code in icecast2 yet. Also, it wouldn't be there if it was, because i've been VERY careful about locking, and it was one of the main design goals of icecast2 to do this better anyway. > Are we the first people to see the bug? I don't think so. So this doesn't happen with 1.3.10? jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From lists at lastonepicked.com Tue Aug 28 16:49:56 2001 From: lists at lastonepicked.com (Hunter Hillegas) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:49:56 -0700 Subject: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse In-Reply-To: <20010828102454.C6095@i.cantcode.com> Message-ID: I dunno. I think it does as the last time we had this problem we were running 1.3.10. I haven't tested it on the new box though. Since it's in production now, running these tests is more difficult. > From: Jack Moffitt > Reply-To: icecast at xiph.org > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:24:54 -0600 > To: icecast at xiph.org > Subject: Re: [icecast] Icecast Problems Get Worse > > So this doesn't happen with 1.3.10? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From mjs at blitz-technology.net Wed Aug 29 19:42:08 2001 From: mjs at blitz-technology.net (Mitchell) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:42:08 +1000 Subject: [icecast] lame Message-ID: <20010830054208.A14108@blitz-technology.net> Does anyone know if there are pre-packaged deb files for the lame encoder? If so can you please forward me a link to the packages. Thanks From mark at neurosis.net Thu Aug 30 18:40:23 2001 From: mark at neurosis.net (Mark Luntzel) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:40:23 -0700 Subject: [icecast] libshout-perl compilation error Message-ID: <20010830114023.D2269@hunter.hating.com> Hi - got this from both the CVS source and the tarball: (libshout compiled and installed cleanly) [root at hunter stream]# cd Shout-1.0 [root at hunter Shout-1.0]# perl Makefile.PL Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Shout [root at hunter Shout-1.0]# make mkdir blib mkdir blib/lib mkdir blib/arch mkdir blib/arch/auto mkdir blib/arch/auto/Shout mkdir blib/lib/auto mkdir blib/lib/auto/Shout mkdir blib/man3 cp example2.pl blib/lib/example2.pl cp example.pl blib/lib/example.pl cp Shout.pm blib/lib/Shout.pm AutoSplitting blib/lib/Shout.pm (blib/lib/auto/Shout) /usr/bin/perl -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap Shout.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c Shout.c Error: Cannot parse function definition from ' shout_conn_t *self' in Shout.xs, line 204 Error: Cannot parse function definition from ' shout_conn_t *self' in Shout.xs, line 210 make: *** [Shout.c] Error 1 send help. regards. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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From mark at neurosis.net Thu Aug 30 19:07:30 2001 From: mark at neurosis.net (Mark Luntzel) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:07:30 -0700 Subject: [icecast] libshout-perl compilation error In-Reply-To: <20010830114023.D2269@hunter.hating.com> Message-ID: <20010830120729.F2269@hunter.hating.com> Shout-0.99 does not give me these errors, FYI :) With large, sharp teeth, Mark Luntzel chortled: > Hi - got this from both the CVS source and the tarball: > > (libshout compiled and installed cleanly) > > [root at hunter stream]# cd Shout-1.0 > [root at hunter Shout-1.0]# perl Makefile.PL > Checking if your kit is complete... > Looks good > Writing Makefile for Shout > [root at hunter Shout-1.0]# make > mkdir blib > mkdir blib/lib > mkdir blib/arch > mkdir blib/arch/auto > mkdir blib/arch/auto/Shout > mkdir blib/lib/auto > mkdir blib/lib/auto/Shout > mkdir blib/man3 > cp example2.pl blib/lib/example2.pl > cp example.pl blib/lib/example.pl > cp Shout.pm blib/lib/Shout.pm > AutoSplitting blib/lib/Shout.pm (blib/lib/auto/Shout) > /usr/bin/perl -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap Shout.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c Shout.c > Error: Cannot parse function definition from ' shout_conn_t *self' in Shout.xs, line 204 > Error: Cannot parse function definition from ' shout_conn_t *self' in Shout.xs, line 210 > make: *** [Shout.c] Error 1 > > > send help. regards. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. -- If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu Thu Aug 30 19:40:14 2001 From: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu (Robin P. Blanchard) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:40:14 -0400 Subject: [icecast] icecast strangeness... Message-ID: <3B8E969E.35702DB9@gactr.uga.edu> I've been trying to figure out as to why sometimes connections are properly negotiated and sometimes not. For example, using mpg123 as a client, I point it at my server (live.wuga.org): Directory: http://live.wuga.org/ Playing MPEG stream from ... MPEG 1.0 layer I, 96 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo Illegal Audio-MPEG-Header 0x62dd8776 at offset 0xfffffffb. It has improperly negotiated the connection and immediately craps out. I try again: Directory: http://live.wuga.org/ Playing MPEG stream from ... Junk at the beginning fffa2f7f MPEG 2.5 layer III, 16 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono And it has this time properly negotiated the stream (MPEG 2.5 layer III, 16 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono) and subsequently will play just fine. However, I have been unable to determine the pattern of this as sometimes it works the first time, others the second, others the third, etc. There is nothing peculiar looking in the icecast logs. I am running CVS of icecast-1.3.11 Ideas? thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard at gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From bowserj at unbc.ca Fri Aug 31 05:52:31 2001 From: bowserj at unbc.ca (Joe Bowser) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [icecast] icecast strangeness... In-Reply-To: <3B8E969E.35702DB9@gactr.uga.edu> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > I've been trying to figure out as to why sometimes connections are > properly negotiated and sometimes not. > > For example, using mpg123 as a client, I point it at my server > (live.wuga.org): > Directory: http://live.wuga.org/ > Playing MPEG stream from ... > MPEG 1.0 layer I, 96 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo > Illegal Audio-MPEG-Header 0x62dd8776 at offset 0xfffffffb. > > It has improperly negotiated the connection and immediately craps out. > > I try again: > Directory: http://live.wuga.org/ > Playing MPEG stream from ... > Junk at the beginning fffa2f7f > MPEG 2.5 layer III, 16 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono > > And it has this time properly negotiated the stream (MPEG 2.5 layer III, > 16 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono) and subsequently will play just fine. However, > I have been unable to determine the pattern of this as sometimes it > works the first time, others the second, others the third, etc. > > There is nothing peculiar looking in the icecast logs. > > I am running CVS of icecast-1.3.11 > > Ideas? Not really. I've had the same problem with both Icecast streams and Mp3s encoded with LAME. It might be a number of things, including: * Mp3's 100hz bug (As was the problem with the ISO code and Winamp) * mpg123 bug * LAME bug Try encoding static files on the same encoder your using at the same bitrate and try them. I'm thinking it's an ISO Mp3 bug, not a problem with LAME or mpg123. (I forget the flag to enforce ISO conformance, but I know it doesn't work with liveice properly or ices the last time I tried) This was one of the main reasons why I switched from using mp3 to Ogg Vorbis (even though I still have to maintain the station's Icecast 1.3.X server at UNBC when I get back). - -- - ------------------------------------------------ Joe Bowser - bowserj at unbc.ca Education Alternative Radio Society/CFUR 88.7 - ----------------------------------------------- http://bowserj.n3.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7jyYiKYefN4RFrdoRApJQAKDeiDJXrI2Jbg9gyNhXA0uXpN7vTQCgzoCw Juz/BlKiEtAo0gu43XZhuLA= =X4l1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. From sublime at lagfactory.net Wed Aug 29 12:11:26 2001 From: sublime at lagfactory.net (Nate) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:11:26 -0400 Subject: [icecast] Scripted playlists with shout? In-Reply-To: <00bf01c12fa8$c5cd1e90$e365a8c0@mCentric.local> Message-ID: <001001c1325d$17eadda0$6401a8c0@highspire> Give up on shout! :) IceS is more stable, and allows scripting of Perl or Python subroutines to handle your playlist. It's great stuff. :) Nate ----- Original Message ----- From: "matt mcConnell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: [icecast] Scripted playlists with shout? > Hi, > Another basic question (the list archive search doesn't seem to be > working). > Is it possible to do scripted playlists with shout? I want to allow the > people at my site to upload new mp3 files to the server and have them placed > in the playlist automatically. I tried generating the playlist (file) with > crontab, but it seems shout only reads the playlist once, at startup. > I experimented with things like shout -D '/home/matt/scripts/all.sh' ... > where all.sh contains a simple script like find /home/matt/music. But in > this case, if there was no playlist file, shout complained. And if there > was a playlist file, shout only played the songs in the file. > I'm a bit stumped. I can't imagine want I to do is impossible. Does > anyone have any example? > > Thanks, > > matt > > --- > The real problem is entropy. > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request at xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. 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