[Icecast-dev] Help

renato fringuello rfringuello at gmail.com
Thu Sep 27 06:33:51 PDT 2012

Ok thanks a lot.

2012/9/27 Rücker Thomas <thomas.ruecker at tieto.com>:
> Hi,
> On 27/09/12 12:45, renato fringuello wrote:
>> I took some radios from yp.xml 2 days ago, but today someone (like
>> http://streaming207.radionomy.com/AngeFM) answers to me :
>> "The file you requested could not be found"
>> what's the problem?
>> They doesn't exist anymore? They are off now and they could be on later?
> Yes, yp.xml is a snapshot of the streams that exist at the given time.
> You should refresh your cached copy every now and then to be up to date.
> As said previously don't do this too often. I'd guess if your cached
> copy is older than e.g. 60min and the user does something that requires
> the list, it should be safe to download a fresh copy.
> ---------------
> GENERAL WARNING (nothing personal):
> As said before I'd like to avoid situations where we get some popular
> software where each client will download the list every 5 minutes.
> To give everyone reading this list an idea what this could mean:
> - 500 copies active at a given time
> - Polling every 5min
> - XML size (compressed): 500 kByte / uncompressed: 5 MByte
> - resulting bandwidth usage (compressed): 7 Megabit/s; uncompressed: 70
> Megabit/s
> For just /one/ misbehaving software.
> For comparison the current average bandwidth of the /whole/ dir.xiph.org
> server is 7Megabit/s (most of it due to uncompressed downloads)
> Now consider a well behaved software:
> - 100000 copies active at a given time, install base in the millions.
> - Updates only when it really needs the list (e.g. the user opens the
> 'Internet streams' dialogue)
> - When it needs the list it doesn't update more often than every e.g. 60min
> - Uses RFC2616 compliant compression
> 30 requests per hour, 400kbit/s effective bandwidth usage.
> (Those numbers are actually educated guesses based on real usage
> statistics of dir.xiph.org)
> Thanks for listening,
> Thomas
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