[foms] W3C activities on HTTP adaptive streaming - Inform and ask opinion.

[John Luther]

Great, thanks, Steve!

--JL


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org> wrote:

> I will be in Berlin to present Matroska (and WebM) in the context of
> streaming. So hopefully we can push further a truly "royalty-free"
> solution as a general standard for the web.
>
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Mark Watson <watsonm at netflix.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Francois Daoust wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/02/2010 11:07 AM, Raphaël Troncy wrote:
> >>>> are you saying that the W3C is considering starting a WG for adaptive
> >>>> HTTP streaming?
> >>>
> >>> This has indeed been discussed during last TPAC (last month). I'm
> cc-ing
> >>> François Daoust, staff contact in W3C, that might lead this activity.
> >>
> >> "Starting a WG for adaptive HTTP streaming" is too positive a statement
> at this point. We make the same analysis as others, in other words: it is
> important for the success of video on the Web (through the <video> tag),
> there are different proprietary solutions out there, different
> standardization organizations that also work on the topic, but no
> royalty-free solution in sight.
> >
> > It is certainly our intention, and I believe the intention of other
> participants (though I cannot speak for them), that MPEG DASH be
> royalty-free. MPEG DASH reached Draft International Standard last week and
> it is planned to make the DIS publicly available (currently it is with the
> editor) as well as the associated amendment to the ISO File Format. The DIS
> will include a "basic on-demand" profile which I believe fits well the
> requirements for simplified initial implementation of on-demand services.
> >
> > More details soon for those that are interested ...
> >
> > ...Mark
> >
> >>
> >> HTTP adaptive streaming can be addressed at the application level
> through the definition of a manifest file format, or at the network level
> through improvements to HTTP. W3C would welcome the work on a manifest file
> format and its associated processing model, provided there is enough support
> from its members involved in the field. People are, I think, looking for
> convergence towards a common open solution much more than for the creation
> of yet another standard, which is fine.
> >>
> >> This got discussed a bit at TPAC, and keeps coming up in discussions. We
> put our members in touch when they show interest in HTTP adaptive streaming.
> As of today, there is no concrete proposal within W3C to start
> standardization work, or public threads on the topic I could point you at.
> >>
> >> I encourage people to bring this topic to the upcoming Web and TV
> workshop in Berlin in February:
> >>  http://www.w3.org/2010/11/web-and-tv/
> >> (the topic is of particular relevance for TVs because of constraints
> such devices have in terms of the number of technologies they can
> integrate).
> >>
> >> This could also be discussed within the upcoming Web and TV Interest
> Group (for clarity, note an "Interest Group" cannot develop rec-track
> specifications), once created. Mailing-list is public-web-and-tv at w3.org,
> archived at:
> >>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/
> >>
> >>
> >>>> If that is the case, I would very much think that the
> >>>> discussion and conclusions that we have come up with here would be
> >>>> well placed as input into that WG. I believe Jeroen, who has very much
> >>>> taken the lead in pulling all the information together here, may even
> >>>> have some very good draft proposals as starting points.
> >>>
> >>> +1!
> >>
> >> If something gets started, the possibility to use existing works as
> starting point would be extremely useful, indeed. Raphael had pointed me to
> the FOMS workshop where this got discussed.
> >>
> >> Francois.
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